BobbyCast Presents: Unsigned & Independent: Erin Viancourt - Learning From an Independent Legend

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Unsigned an Independent, Season two, episode fifteen, Aaron vine Courts.

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Speaker 2: Give me some thoughts on Aaron Vinecourt.

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Speaker 3: He's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she is good, because if you had said she wasn't awesome, I've been like, why did you book her?

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Speaker 4: Exactly exactly. She's with Cody Jinx's label. Actually, so she is signed.

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Speaker 1: Oh we talked to Cody and he said he had oh this is her, Yes, got it. She's the only artist signed under Cody Jinx's label, which is called Late August Records, right, yes, And so does she talk about how her and Cody met.

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Speaker 2: Or yeah, yeah, well, don't spoil that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming she's playing guitar somewhere and he stumbles upon her and it's a smoky night and he's like, you're good.

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Speaker 3: Was it that something like that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Her sister also sings and performs professionally on cruise ships and travels around the world.

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Speaker 2: And so she worked here.

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Speaker 1: In town at Third and Lensley, Yeah, for years doing like working in the third and Lensley and then meeting people server.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and she would just meet the right people and that's that.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I know I already know the answer. You can follow her on social media peach Pie Music.

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Speaker 2: What about her musically interests you.

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Speaker 4: She's got a cool style, different style, she does her own thing, and she's got very a lot of confidence to her and you could tell in her music and in her videos.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys talk about buying merch because I talk about this a lot too, Like that is really one of the things you can do to support the artists the most. Yeah, so that's here. This is Unsigned and Independents kick Off Kevin. Follow him at Kickoff Kevin. And here is Aaron Weinecourt.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Weincourt, How are we doing doing great? How are you good?

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Speaker 4: We're just talking about to your last name a little bit. It's spelled v I A n c O U r T.

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 4: So that a is a little silent and you're saying it's French. There you go say it again without me talking over you. Okay, there, von Core, I.

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Speaker 3: Can't say it as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well we met what a couple months ago?

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Speaker 3: Maybe?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: At a Cody Jinks album release party going on? And Lilia a great young lady over here, she's sitting over here along with your sister and she started telling me your story and Cody and I want to get this out of the way right away, that you are signed with Cody's label, Late August Records, but you are the.

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Speaker 3: Only artist's right side Cody of course.

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Speaker 4: Besides Cody, but he's also a legend in himself when it comes to being you know, independent, an independent artist. So how did you guys connect? How are you the only artist under his record label right now?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 6: I'd like to say luck, but I guess fate a little bit more. I worked at a music venue here in Nashville, Third and Lindsley for eight years, and luckily the promoter and the owner there would put me up for other acts whenever they could as the opener. And I got to open for a guy named Alex Williams who was a part of True Grit and Cody's a part of True Grit, So kind of just aligning those and getting to know Cody's manager who eventually picked me up on management and gave me the chance to open for Cody and Travis Tritt back in twenty twenty one, I believe down in Austin and Wow, we must have done something right because they kept asking me back and Cody was like, man, you have to have music out there, Like, if you're gonna be on the road, you need an album.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 6: And I know that he's been wanting to start his own label for a long time because he started it late August Records in twenty twelve and was just releasing all of his music off of it, and the wonderful guy that he is so generous wanted to help younger artists get music out there.

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Speaker 5: And I guess I happened.

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Speaker 6: To be the one that made him pull the trigger and I got to make a full record and he's been you know, supportive and helped me push that out ever since.

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Speaker 4: And what's that like? Been working under him and learning from him. Somebody's been doing it for so long and so successful at a high level, but also staying true to who he is as an artist and as a person. Is that something that you've gotten to learn from him in your short time with him?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 6: My goodness, yes, I you know backstage it shows all the time. I still pinch myself. I'm like, I can't believe that this is the crew and the guy that I get to learn from, because, like you know how it is in this industry, like you could get wrapped up with the wrong people that don't have great intentions, and you know, so to learn from people that are just like good hearted people have made their own well oiled machine and how they run. And Cody being the good guy that he is, he's so generous, sticking to you know, what he does, his guns and never changing what it is that he does and just encouraging me to do the same.

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Speaker 5: It's been incredible camp to learn from.

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Speaker 4: Just two more Cody questions. This is not going to be a Cody jinx, but I'm just interested and I think any fan should be interested in perspective learning from a guy like that. First one is what was was there like a show where you were, like when you played with Cody, where you're like, holy crap, like this is I've kind of made it here a little bit, like anything that hits you during a show, mid show or right before show you're about to go on stage. Was there one show that sticks out in your mind?

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Speaker 6: Man, I don't even know if there's one show like the first one in Austin. You I had never seen his live show before, I'd been you know, heard his music had some song saved, but I wasn't fully on the Cody train. And when I first saw his live show, I was like, oh, man, like these guys do it and an incredible band, and there's seven of them up there. And to have seven guys up there, you know, putting on a show, staying out each other's way. There's no ego. They're just up there killing it. I mean, every show is great. I can't say that there's one that because they just bring it every.

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Speaker 3: Every single time. That's awesome.

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Speaker 4: And is there one piece of advice that he's given you is stuck in your head, like, hey, through everything, just stick with this or have this mentality or don't ever forget this.

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Speaker 6: I believe he passed on advice to me that Minnie Pearl gave to Clint Black, that Clint Black gave to Cody that Cody gave to me, which was just love the fans and they'll love you back and have fun.

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Speaker 3: Are you doing that?

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Speaker 5: I sure?

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Speaker 3: How's that going for you?

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Speaker 5: Going good? I just got off the road. We're doing it?

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Speaker 3: Where were we at?

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Speaker 6: We went from Florida to the Carolinas, Tennessee, Kentucky. I was on the road with Mike and the Moonpie is great country band.

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Speaker 3: Awesome. Yeah, I watched that road life been like for you, man, I.

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Speaker 5: Just bought my first band. Yeah, it's awesome.

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Speaker 6: It's this like custom made Harley Davidson six black leather Captain's chairs with the limo lighting and everything. So it's a nice place to call home on the road. And yeah, it really helps having you know, one spot that's yours. But it's the road is tough. It's not for the faint of heart, for sure, but you got to have good team behind you. I've got great guys on the road with me that they work their butt off. They really care about what we're doing. And it's hard, like late nights, early mornings, you're chasing the bus, you trying to find some nutrition besides the Loves gas station, and it's trying to do your hair without an outlet or a mirror half the time, and thank God for a hat. And yeah, it's a it's exhausting, but it's the most energizing thing that I've ever done.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever had a night where you're on the road and you're just thinking, like, I don't know if I want to do this anymore?

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Speaker 6: No, I can't say that it's ever been. I don't know if I want to do this. Like there's been a couple of nights where I'm like, how am I going to do this? You know, we just did nine shows in a row with Mike and the Moonpie is no days off. That last two days my voice was getting real horse. We'd tied one on the night before There you Go, and I had been waiting. I was like, you know, I got to keep everything together. I hadn't really you know, let it loose the whole time, and that night we did it, and I was like, oh my god, this took it out of me. I can't do this again, like collect the checks, get to the next gig, and yeah, I thought it was going to take it out of me, but you did it. There's something that like this' adrenaline, even when you think you can't do it, that you still just kind of flip on and you go to work like it's fun. So it's not work, but at the end of the day, you just go to work and you do it and you get it done.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So I don't think there's never been a time.

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Speaker 4: I'm like I don't want to do this, have you had a best road night, road trip night, or show, or or weekend on the road or show on the road, there's something that pops in your head where you're like, this might have been like the most fun weekend that we've had on the road or anything like that.

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Speaker 6: Man, there's been, you know, quite a handful in the last couple of years. But this past weekend we played in Maryville, Tennessee, at the Shed, and that was such a great crowd, so many great people have played there before. The room was great, all the bands were hot. Actually that was the night before we had tied one on, so Mike's guys, all of us, we were all super hungover. But for some reason, when you're like in that mode, you need a little bit more of a to like actually do the thing.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know, we all brought it and it was a great night, and that one really stuck out from this past week.

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Speaker 3: That's got to be tough.

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Speaker 4: I think about that sometimes, especially living in Nashville, when I go on a three day vender and then I'm like, and I'll lose my voice a little bit, and I'm not on the radio every day or anything like that. So it's okay, but as a singer, like I think about that all the time. I'm like, dang, I would hate to wake up and your voice is gone or it's raspy or whatever, just from I mean, you're not doing anything crazy, You're just having a good time, hanging out with friends or whatever it is. And is that tough to take care of your voice? Twenty four to seven?

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Speaker 5: It's super stuff. You gotta stay hydrated.

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Speaker 6: And you're on the road and you're like, we're by the minute trying to chase the bus. You know, they got a driver that drives them through the night. We got to get up early and drive, and you know, I'm like, sorry, guys, I gotta stay hydrated. We're making lots of peace stops. But this is the most important thing where we got to stay hydrated. And it's really not the singings nine nights in a row that you know, I sing every day. It's the going out to the merch table and talking and connecting with people and getting to know the people that are, you know, buying your music and.

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Speaker 5: Loving your music.

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Speaker 6: You're usually screaming over loud, you know, whoever's playing in loud music, And so that's really what I think takes it out of me the most. But you want to be out there, You want to be meeting people that are buying your mut and stuff.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, just I I got a jar of honey at.

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Speaker 6: Keep in the Van and I just like literally just squeezed it into my mind, the water and honey.

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Speaker 3: What is uh?

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Speaker 4: You mentioned merch a little bit, and I've talked about this, Bobby and I talked about this. It's on a couple intros, like how much it means to especially up and coming artists, independent artists at the shows. How much does it mean to you if you have a merch table or if you're selling whatever you are at your shows for those fans to go and purchase that, Like, how much does that help you as an artist?

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Speaker 5: It's the most important thing.

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Speaker 6: Like that's the only way we're making money really, you know, especially as an opener, you're the real payment you're getting is the exposure and that chance to share your music. You know, that's you're not getting paid a lot for those opening slots. So we're out there sling and merch and you know you want to. Honestly, this actual last run, we all were really proud of ourselves because our main merch item was the vinyl record. So when somebody's buying your music, actually that's the main thing they're buying. Like that means that we put on a good show. They want to hear more. And I don't know, there's something about also people buying something with your name on it.

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Speaker 5: It still blows my mind. I'm like, are you sure.

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Speaker 3: You know that's my name? Right?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Okay, yeah, well thank you.

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Speaker 3: What's that like?

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Speaker 4: Seeing that out in the crowd then, I mean somebody has like a shirt on or something like, how cool is that? Like, it's so cool because you've you probably grew up going to shows right with whoever, I don't know who you grew up listening to. We'll get into that, maybe be like Shania Twain, whatever it might be, right, a shirt on or something like that. So to see something like that, you, I imagine, I don't have anybody wearing my shirts out there that, but I imagine it's almost like you know, you were that kid or you were that person at one point, so it's gonna be pretty cool to see.

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Speaker 6: It's so great and like, you know, times are tough. People are working hard for money, so for them to buy a ticket to a show and then come spend money at the merch table to essentially put gas in the tank for y'all. And you know, it's a it's definitely a wild thing. And it's even more wild when you're out there and you you repeat people that you're like, Oh, I've seen that person another show and they've got your shirt on and now they're singing along to your songs.

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Speaker 4: They're like, what, that's awesome? Y Do you have a website that they can play real quick for?

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Speaker 5: I sure do.

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Speaker 6: Go ahead, Aaron Vinecourt music dot com. I'm looking at my label head.

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Speaker 5: Is that it?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 5: That is Socials is peach by Music? The easiest way.

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Speaker 3: To find there?

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Speaker 4: You go Socials is peach Pye Music. Since you brought it up, I was going to bring it up at the end, but we're here. Peach Bye music Instagram because I follow you on Instagram.

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Speaker 3: I gotta know where does that?

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Speaker 6: I mean?

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Speaker 4: It's a fun name. You have like a fun look to you too. I remember seeing you at the show at the Cody Jinks. You have like this cool style, Like have you always had that cool style and.

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Speaker 3: That fun look? Is that where that name comes from?

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Speaker 6: My sister's here, Emily have I always had a cool style. It's always been different and you work.

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Speaker 3: Right there, Emily, if you want hop on a real.

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Speaker 6: Quick Oh you always kind of kind of live in overalls and flares and.

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Speaker 7: Yea yeah, but I feel like your outfits always kind of reflect I feel the way your brain works, Like I feel like you're always being so I don't know, thinking outside the box a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's get crazy, but yeah, I always love that. Can I go in your closet? Go ahead? There's so much but Peach Pye music is my My dad and my grandpa called me peach Pie because I got rosy cheeks.

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Speaker 6: And uh then everyone kind of just started calling me Peach and I've been pushed to change it to Aaron Vinecourt. But now, like people come up to me in a bar. I'll see people out and they're like, are.

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Speaker 5: You Peach Pye music? And I'm like, I can't change it now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome. I mean that's how I knew.

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Speaker 4: Like I talked about the last name, and I was like, I didn't even think about you having a last name. I just knew Peach Sick, which is a cool name. Well, let's talk about your upbringing a little bit. Finally get into your backstory. Your sister here, Emily, and then you have another sister.

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Speaker 5: As well, right, my little sister Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Three girls, Yeah, the middle, you're the middle. What's it like be in the middle.

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Speaker 5: Great. I get to be a little sister and an older sister.

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Speaker 6: Although our little sisters, she takes on the older sister role quite a bit.

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Speaker 5: Oh really being travelers.

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Speaker 3: Is she out here in Nashville or No, she's in Florida.

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Speaker 5: She just had her first baby, so we're first time aunts.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations to her and your family.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and your family. That's exciting. And you grew up in Cleveland, Ohio?

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Speaker 3: What was like? But you grew up in the city.

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Speaker 6: Grew up in the city and my dad was a fireman, so we had to live in city limits.

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Speaker 3: How is that?

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Speaker 5: It was interesting?

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Speaker 6: You know because we're we kind of come from more of like a country style background, hunting, fishing, camping, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I wouldn't take you as a city girl at all.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And like you know, Cleveland's are downtown Cleveland, but we had a trailer growing up out in Geneva, Ohio. And that's you know, adventurous kind of more childhood than the city life, for sure.

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Speaker 4: And I saw that you growing up, you guys didn't really have a TV or anything. You're more outside playing using your imagination, sure, and using what nature gives you.

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Speaker 5: Right, our trailer didn't have a TV.

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Speaker 6: Are trying to want to get to We had a TV at home, but our trailer didn't.

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Speaker 5: Have a TV.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's what.

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Speaker 4: Well, if anybody asked you never had a TV, it's a lot cool. Do you feel like that getting in your imagination like that as a kid has helped you grow up as an artist, like using that creativity in your in your head, because even for me as a kid, I mean I remember playing with whatever little army guys or Ninja turtle guys, right, and my mom always said, like you would always just have little figures with you. Yeah, And like I always knew as a kid, I need to do something creative. I can't just go sit somewhere and like have this work done with me. I need to like create something, whether it's a podcast or whether it's I don't know, whatever it might be on the show. So do you feel like that contributes to you being an artist nowadays?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: And growing up yeah, like the three of us happened to figure it out, like go, go play, go find something, go build a house with stix.

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Speaker 5: You know, we catch frogs and write stories with them.

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Speaker 6: And I had an imaginary monkey friend out like in the ravine behind our trailer, swinging from vines. His name was Tongo, And yeah, just figure it out if you're bored, not my problem.

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Speaker 3: When did you start playing or getting into music?

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Speaker 5: You know, I come from a very musical family. My dad played guitar.

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Speaker 6: A lot of my uncles play guitar, and for the longest time, Dad wanted to teach me guitar, but being the.

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Speaker 5: Stubborn middle child that I am, I was like, no, I'm not going to do that.

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Speaker 6: But then I found myself when I was home alone, probably like as a teenager, wanting to like jam along with music I was listening to and just like hitting the strings on a guitar, and I was like, all right, it's time to actually learn it, because this isn't cool. So I started, Yeah, learning to play guitar as a teenager, started writing songs.

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Speaker 3: And do you remember the first song you ever wrote?

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, shiny new compass? Was it American hero.

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Speaker 6: My our cousins are like Green Berets and Special Forces and stuff. So I think the very first one, I was like fourteen and I wrote a song for my cousin that was coming home.

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Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, how is that?

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Speaker 5: I have court? Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: My aunt created started support our troops America and she always put on a big concert every year.

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Speaker 5: So you bet your bunch she had us up there doing it. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: At first it was called half man, half boy, and somebody was like, you should probably change it. It sounds like that. What's the thing called the half horse half man thing?

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Speaker 3: Oh, like a Napoleon dynamite thing or whatever. That's yeah, what if it? Yeah, I know what you're talking about, but I can't think they were like you should change that. I'm like, all right, whatever you say. My song not.

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Speaker 4: So. You sound like you're pretty close to your family, A lot of your family. What did you guys grow up listening to? What we who were some of your influences that your parents would play while you were a kid that like the first people you could remember right well, uh.

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Speaker 6: On in the background of like just always was Jerry, Jeff Walker or Asleep at the Wheel mostly Asleep at the wheel Dean Martin. Dad listened to a lot of Dean Martin. Mom always had Patsy Klein on my older Emily who's here with me. She pretty much taught me and my little sister how to sing, and her biggest influence with Judy Garland.

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Speaker 5: So just very rich voices.

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Speaker 6: That was some of the earliest voices that I was listening to growing up.

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Speaker 4: Emily, do you mind hoping on here for another minute real quick? So I can ask you a question? Can you get screwed up to the mic? I got to ask, so you you taught her how to sing?

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't necessarily feel that way, So it makes me makes me feel nice that she's saying that. But I think we always all kind of we would all sing together and help each other out, and was singing again. You had a tool that I needed. I'd be like, how do you how are you singing this? Or there's something that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you had us lined up with Dough ray me like, Ellen, you sing this one, Aaron, you sing this one?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So you were the teacher, Yeah, you're the instructor. Yeah, so you can sing? You can still sing yourself?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, we do our vocal warm ups together.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, can I get a little warm over right now?

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Speaker 5: Or no, it's really annoying.

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a very annoying.

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Speaker 5: It's very annoying.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well I guess yeah.

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Speaker 7: No, it's a lot of like me and.

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Speaker 5: We've been trying to do it every day together. Yeah. Really nice.

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Speaker 3: And you to live out here together we do.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's awesome when you support because you work in the industry too, right, Emily, what do you do?

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Speaker 5: I sing?

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Speaker 3: You sing, you travel and sing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Are you guy talking about a little bit before?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I sing on ships ships, so I kind of just hop from hop from ship to ship and do and do a show.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, she's like in a ball gown on a grant sitting on a grand piano with like a horn section behind her.

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Speaker 5: Really yeah, like she's doing it.

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Speaker 4: So it's like two different spectrums and of the music scene, right, I mean for you too?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What is that like then? For you? Aaron?

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Speaker 4: Like you guys come home and talk about it like, oh I did I played at this show and I did this today. You can kind of relate, but also not because you're doing two different things at the same time.

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Speaker 6: For sure, and like because we're both essentially creating shows or different types of shows to different people. But at the end of the day, our job is to entertain and connect with people. And you know, a long while back, I think when I first moved to Nashville, even though we do different things, Emily went to school for musical theater. I came here at eighteen and got my honky talk diploma, as they like to say. And I said to Emily one day, I forget what we were talking about, but she was like, well, if we can do this together, blah blah blah. And I was like, well, how is that going to work? Like we do such different things, And she taught me early on, She's like, that just doesn't matter. Like we're we have the same goal. If I go up, you go up, If you go up, I go up, Like we're going to climb this ladder together. So it really and it is nice because it really doesn't matter, Like she can always be a part of my show.

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Speaker 5: I can be a part of her show.

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Speaker 6: You know, we've talked about doing a sister show on one of the ships. If she's around and I have a show. I'm like, get up and sing harmony, you know, and it's nice when you get to you know, yeah, have good shows, bad shows, or you know, I didn't sing this quite right? Or what do you think of this transition from the tiniest little things too?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 5: So it's nice to have someone to bounce things off of.

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Speaker 3: And what about your your other sister's name is I'm sorry say Ellen? Ellen? So all three are east?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Ellen? Okay, yea. What does she sing too?

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Speaker 6: She does, yeah, but she doesn't do it professionally, but she uh, yeah, she'll get up, she'll sing harmony with us.

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Speaker 5: We still all sing, all three of us together, and that's awesome.

00:21:14
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:21:15
Speaker 3: Do you ever play you moved here? How long you been here?

00:21:18
Speaker 5: I moved here in twenty twelve?

00:21:19
Speaker 3: Okay, so a little while?

00:21:21
Speaker 5: Wow?

00:21:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little while. Did it feel like it's that been that long?

00:21:24
Speaker 5: I can't. It's different every day.

00:21:26
Speaker 7: Yeah.

00:21:26
Speaker 6: Some days I'm like, wow, I've been here so long, and some days I'm like I feel like I just got here.

00:21:31
Speaker 4: But now, if you were to tell the Aaron of tal Them twelve, what you know? Now, what would be the first thing that you would tell her as she's coming to Nashville.

00:21:40
Speaker 5: Just do what you do, Just do it. Just don't change anything, Just be you and you'll figure it out.

00:21:48
Speaker 4: Have you had to maneuver through a lot of that, trying to people changing on what you should do or what you should be doing, and you having to stay true to who you are as an artist, as a.

00:21:57
Speaker 6: Person a little bit, I think the naturally, like as a human, I think all of us, you know, it's hard to especially with social media and stuff, or look around and be like, well, what are they doing? Should I be doing that? And you kind of have to catch yourself. But yeah, when I moved to town early on, sometimes I like to think I was a better writer when I was sixteen seventeen, when I had no idea about anything and you're just you know, falling the most natural part of writing. And definitely got in with you know, you join groups and stuff, and although everyone has good intentions.

00:22:34
Speaker 5: There was a lot of this is the way it should.

00:22:36
Speaker 6: Be done, here's the recipe of a song, here's you know, this is what you need to be writing about.

00:22:41
Speaker 5: And I learned very quick to ignore that.

00:22:47
Speaker 3: Do you have some major influences?

00:22:49
Speaker 4: He talked about earlier at Third and Lindsay, is there some other people that you lean on still till this day, ten plus years in now where if you need the phone call outside of your sisters, of course, you need to call somebody ask for advice. Is there somebody here in Nashville that you go to or a couple of people maybe?

00:23:06
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and it depends.

00:23:07
Speaker 6: I've gotten to meet so many different types of people in the industry. So is a behind the scenes question, is it a management question?

00:23:14
Speaker 5: Is it an artist question? Yeah?

00:23:16
Speaker 6: I met so many great people working at Third and Lindsley. Of course the best is the time Jumpers every Monday night. They're the greatest musicians around. And so you got people like Joe Spivey, who you know, really takes all the bartenders and wags under his wing.

00:23:29
Speaker 5: He's just the sweetest guy I could call him.

00:23:31
Speaker 6: And he's been in the industry for every ever, every country song that you've heard from John Anderson early in the eighties till probably now, like every fiddle lick that you've ever heard, like Shania Twain, who's bed Hea of your Boot's been under John Anderson, seminal Win, that's all Joe like He's just he's been a part of all of it. So I truly could pick up the phone and call any of them at any time, and you know, either be like, hey, I need this on a song or I have a question or in blue can I come over out?

00:24:02
Speaker 5: Yeah?

00:24:02
Speaker 4: And do you feel like Nashville is a great city for that? I've talked about that a couple of times on this podcast. And me, I've moved here from southern California, LA, where it's totally different vibe. Everyone has their own experience, for sure, but I feel like Nashville is a great city of connecting and it's a lot of transplants, so a lot of people are like trying to help each other out, whether it's in the music industry or business or whatever it may be. And do you feel like Nashville has been pretty good to you in that sense for the ten plus years that you've been here?

00:24:28
Speaker 5: For sure?

00:24:28
Speaker 6: I feel like you probably find your your group of people, your you know, I started going. I used to live on Music Row and there's a bar called Bobby's Idel Hour. I don't know if you've ever been there. It's moved now. There was a different one.

00:24:42
Speaker 3: They tore it down, not the one right over.

00:24:45
Speaker 5: So that's the third installment.

00:24:47
Speaker 2: Wow.

00:24:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've only driven by it never been.

00:24:50
Speaker 6: It's a great bar. I mean, it's a songwriter's haven. It's a for anybody that's a songwriter, whether you're a professional or you just do it for the love of it.

00:24:59
Speaker 5: So I found and.

00:25:00
Speaker 6: A great group of people very early on in my career of songwriters, just you know, young people like me that are just starting out to hit songwriters that are just hanging out for the day and having my you know friends at Third and Linsley, the other.

00:25:18
Speaker 5: Workers and stuff.

00:25:19
Speaker 6: Pretty much everybody's doing something musically, you know. So yeah, I feel like you find your group and you stick with them, you support each other and lift everybody up.

00:25:29
Speaker 4: And yeah, what are the jobs I said at Third and Linsley, because it sounds like that's been a.

00:25:34
Speaker 5: Run. Yeah, I worked there eight years.

00:25:36
Speaker 4: Okay, did you have any other ones either when you first moved out here or smile on. You don't have to name anything, but can you just tell us a general field and why what was so rough about it?

00:25:49
Speaker 6: It was just a different kind of waitressing and bartending job that you know. Actually, Emily and I worked at one of them together. It was an interesting time. But no.

00:25:59
Speaker 5: I also actually also sold wallet.

00:26:02
Speaker 6: Buckles at one time. That was a fun job. They're like belt buckles, but they're a wallet and you can put your.

00:26:08
Speaker 4: Like calling people or I don't I feel like that's like a Broadway thing or something.

00:26:12
Speaker 3: No, Like what do you mean, like like the store?

00:26:15
Speaker 5: Yeah?

00:26:16
Speaker 6: Oh no, like in the mall or down on Broadway like I would when there was like Tootsie's birthday and stuff. You know, you go down there and you have a sign or shirt that says, ask me about my belt buckle.

00:26:27
Speaker 3: Ah, there it is.

00:26:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, there it is, and you get the drunk tours they're like, oh yeah, yeah, but it really was cool.

00:26:32
Speaker 6: You put your ID and your cards in there and doesn't fall out. I could do the whole spiel again. Yeah that was like eight years ago.

00:26:39
Speaker 5: That's right. They should have I'll get commissioned for it.

00:26:41
Speaker 2: There.

00:26:42
Speaker 3: Good, do you still have one?

00:26:42
Speaker 5: I know, I think I do somewhere.

00:26:44
Speaker 3: You probably do. Yeah, yeah, thing should have brought it in. I could do the little thing all right?

00:26:49
Speaker 4: Well was it kind of close this out here and head into the new year. You got a new song coming out called Straight Down the Barrel, you're working on some other stuff. What else you got in the works for twenty twenty four.

00:26:59
Speaker 6: Well, I'm writing right now, hopefully for the next record. To get in there and record the next record. Yeah, we've got Straight Down the Barrel coming out. It's early twenty twenty four. I've got a couple possible duets with maybe somebody that's on the same label as me.

00:27:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't wonder who that would be.

00:27:22
Speaker 5: I wonder who that would be, no idea, I don't know, but yeah, that.

00:27:27
Speaker 2: Whoever is.

00:27:28
Speaker 5: So we got a couple of things in the cannon.

00:27:29
Speaker 6: I really want to get in and do a couple recordings of some really classic country covers that I love that mean a lot to me that I'd love to sing from a female's perspective, and gosh what else.

00:27:42
Speaker 5: Hopefully just being on the road a lot. That's you know, I think I do.

00:27:48
Speaker 6: It's a it's definitely like a new muscle and I'm getting my taste of it.

00:27:53
Speaker 5: So it's something I like want to conquer.

00:27:55
Speaker 6: And really just dive into it because this year it's kind of hard when it's like on and off. Yeah, you know, so if I could just really focus on that and really get like the niche for being on the road and figuring out your system with your guys and your band and stuff. And I mean, the more you play, the more seat time. That's the best thing that you could be given.

00:28:15
Speaker 3: Have you ever broken down lost road question?

00:28:17
Speaker 5: Of course?

00:28:18
Speaker 6: Oh my god, not in our Vankay, not in our van. But are the other vans that we had rent? We probably broke down four to five times last year. The worst one was in Dallas. We were listening to the Devil Lives in Dallas when we broke down.

00:28:32
Speaker 5: Are you in Dallas?

00:28:33
Speaker 2: Yes?

00:28:33
Speaker 5: We were.

00:28:33
Speaker 3: That was a sign.

00:28:34
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't know have you been through Dallas?

00:28:37
Speaker 3: Have you dried to Dallas? Yeah?

00:28:38
Speaker 6: It broke down like at the moment where all the innerstays are intertwining and we're like inching at like two miles an hour during rush hour and the van won't start. We've had some gnarly breakdowns, but we've always had great people to come save us, except for one tow truck guy who he came and picked us up, got our van, got our trade, and then the tow truck kept breaking down like four to five times. With the four five of us squeezed in front seat. It was the most interesting.

00:29:11
Speaker 7: There as well, yeah, it's going to come get off my flight.

00:29:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, she was stuck in from whatever she was doing, Like my flight's canceled, Like can I the van? I'm like, I'm stuck.

00:29:22
Speaker 7: I was like, are you in Dallas right now? I was like can I hop in with you? And you were like I don't.

00:29:26
Speaker 4: You don't want you don't want to know. I mean, I was just in Dallas a few months ago actually, and I was driving at a rental car.

00:29:33
Speaker 3: It's chaos there, it is.

00:29:36
Speaker 5: Yeah. We we don't say Dallas in the van.

00:29:38
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, okay. We just called that city in Texas.

00:29:42
Speaker 6: City in Texas, in Texas and the boys broke down one time without me in Texarkana and we're not allowed to say text.

00:29:47
Speaker 5: Arcana in the van, and okay, good to know text Arcana. It's an interesting place.

00:29:53
Speaker 3: The name alone is just interesting.

00:29:54
Speaker 5: There's no highway lights.

00:29:56
Speaker 3: Oh really, I've never been there.

00:29:57
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, well it's like you're in Arkansas and it's just dark, dark, dark, dark dark, And then as soon as you get into Texas it's late and you're like, I don't want to go back there ever again?

00:30:07
Speaker 4: Really Yeah, okay, interesting, that's good to know. Well, go streamer music. Follow on social media at peach Pie Music. Of course, Aaron, this has been a lot of fun. Thank you so much. I really look forward to seeing what twenty four has for you. Well, thank come out and check out a show.

00:30:21
Speaker 5: That'd be great. Thank you for coming on, Thanks for having me.

00:30:24
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