The Best James Bond Girls: A Draft
Pay attention, 00s...Ever since Ursula Andress' character "Honey Rider" emerged out of the crystal blue Jamaican waters in 1963's "Dr. No", fans of the James Bond movies have debated which of the "Bond Girls" was the best.This week, to celebrate the 70th anniversary of the release of Ian Fleming's first James Bond novel "Casino Royale", we are joined by 3 other of our favorite podcasts to discuss and rank the best of the James Bond girls from almost 40 years of films.Jeff "Jaws" Johnson from the "A Film By Podcast", Jason "Odd Job" Colvin from "The Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast", Pat "Goldfinger" Cantagallo from the "30Something Movie Podcast" and Van Allen "Le Chiffre" Plexico from "On Her Majesty's Secret Podcast" join David "Blofeld" Wright to draft and discuss!Using the following 5 categories: beauty, talent, importance, chemistry and X-Factor, each podcast will select 5 Bond girls to amass a team!Nobody does it better.Which one is the best? You decide! After, it is all for Queen and Country!
2023-04-13
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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody, Welcome back to another episode of the show. <v Speaker 1>I can't tell you exactly which one it is because <v Speaker 1>this is actually dropping on multiple podcasts at once. Don't worry, <v Speaker 1>you are listening to the right show, whichever one you're <v Speaker 1>trying to get. I am not your regular host, but <v Speaker 1>I have a feeling your host is probably standing very <v Speaker 1>close by. <v Speaker 2>My name is David Wright. <v Speaker 1>I'm also known as Deaf Dave, and there's a chance <v Speaker 1>that you've at least heard of me if you're a <v Speaker 1>regular follower of this show. We have a very special <v Speaker 1>episode today. I've been asked to moderate a fantasy draft <v Speaker 1>for Bond Girls, and so I have with me hosts <v Speaker 1>from a film by podcast, the Surely you Can't Be <v Speaker 1>Serious podcasts, the on Her Majesty's Secret podcast. I think <v Speaker 1>I got that right, as well as the thirty something podcast. <v Speaker 1>So I feel a little bit like more successful than <v Speaker 1>blowfeiul to taking over the world. I'm a guy with <v Speaker 1>no podcasts of my own, yet I have simultaneously hijacked <v Speaker 1>four of them all at once, and I'm feeling pretty powerful. <v Speaker 2>So anyway, this. <v Speaker 1>Is gonna be a fantasy draft of Bond Girls, and <v Speaker 1>we'll have five rounds of these picks and then we'll <v Speaker 1>leave it up to the audience to decide the winner. <v Speaker 2>So let's get straight to introductions. First up, we. <v Speaker 1>Have the host of a Film by Podcast, Jeff Johnson. Jeff, <v Speaker 1>tell us about you, about your show and your Bond credentials. <v Speaker 3>Hello, Dave, thank you for joining us and doing this <v Speaker 3>for us. My name is Jeff Johnson. I'm one of <v Speaker 3>the co hosts for a Film by Podcast. Basically, what <v Speaker 3>we do is we take our favorite directors. We take <v Speaker 3>Hollywoods biggest directors, and we like to focus in on <v Speaker 3>their underrated hits, you know, not necessarily things that you <v Speaker 3>might have heard or might not have done well but <v Speaker 3>the box office, but things that we feel you should <v Speaker 3>definitely check out. And then we also have a couple <v Speaker 3>of limited series. You know, we've done the nineteen eighty <v Speaker 3>six series, which you know, Jason has been a part of, <v Speaker 3>which you've been a part of. We're currently working on <v Speaker 3>a one called a Film at forty five or a <v Speaker 3>couple episodes deep into that. We're celebrating the forty fifth <v Speaker 3>anniversary of movies that were in nineteen seventy eight, so <v Speaker 3>doing some fun stuff with that. As far as Bond <v Speaker 3>goes in my connection, I still remember the day that <v Speaker 3>my dad told me not to go outside to play <v Speaker 3>because he wanted me to watch a movie. I sit <v Speaker 3>down in front of the TV and I'm immediately just <v Speaker 3>unhappy because I see this is some old movie. <v Speaker 2>What do I care? <v Speaker 3>And then all of a sudden, I see this girl <v Speaker 3>completely covered in gold and I was like, wait, what <v Speaker 3>is this? And then the you know, I was hooked. <v Speaker 3>Goldfinger was my first experience. My dad introduced me to <v Speaker 3>James Bond later that year. We went to the movie <v Speaker 3>theater to see A View to a Kill in nineteen <v Speaker 3>eighty five. Again, I was a little confused when I <v Speaker 3>saw Roger Moore's face. I leaned, Dad, that's not James Bond. No, <v Speaker 3>it is James Bond. Just you know, it's a new <v Speaker 3>but happy to say my dad has taken me to <v Speaker 3>see every James Bond film since of You to Will Kill. <v Speaker 3>And the fun thing for me is at this point <v Speaker 3>now as an adult, I'm taking him to go see him. <v Speaker 3>So we haven't missed one, and I don't I don't <v Speaker 3>plan for that to happen anytime soon. <v Speaker 2>That's pretty awesome. <v Speaker 1>So Jason Colvin, tell us a little bit about your <v Speaker 1>show and your bondage experiment, I mean bond experience. <v Speaker 4>Well, my name's Jason Colvin and I co host the <v Speaker 4>Shirley Can Be Serious Podcast with my good buddy James D. Graves, <v Speaker 4>and we are a podcast for the MTV generation. What <v Speaker 4>we do is we take two movies or albums or <v Speaker 4>TV shows or you know, books, whatever, and we match <v Speaker 4>them up against them themselves. And so we've done some <v Speaker 4>pretty fun ones. Jeff with you, We've done Jos The <v Speaker 4>Revenge versus Superman four and that was kind of a <v Speaker 4>fun one. Dave with you, we did License to Ill <v Speaker 4>by the Beastie Boys versus Raisin Hell Run DMC. What <v Speaker 4>we've got coming down the Pipe, We've got Raisin Area <v Speaker 4>Zona versus The Big Lebowski. We're working on Summer of <v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty eight, so we're doing Twins versus Big We've <v Speaker 4>got Long Cold Winter by Cinderella versus OU eight one <v Speaker 4>two Van Halen, and we like to match those up <v Speaker 4>and we go deep. We try to ferret out the <v Speaker 4>stuff that other people don't find, and so some more <v Speaker 4>trivial type of things. For me, my first bond experience <v Speaker 4>happened in the summer of nineteen eighty one, and I <v Speaker 4>contend that two weeks of June and nineteen eighty one <v Speaker 4>were the best two weeks in eighties movie history. So <v Speaker 4>you know, you've got Stripes, You've got Great Uppet Caper, <v Speaker 4>You've got for Year Eyes Only, You've got Raiders of <v Speaker 4>Lost Dark, You've got Dragon Slayer, You've got all these <v Speaker 4>great movies released all in the same two week period. <v Speaker 2>Clash of the Titans, I think. <v Speaker 4>Clash of the Titans and yeah, actually, I've got a <v Speaker 4>tidbit on Clash of the Titans here in a minute, <v Speaker 4>because we'll be talking about probably Ursula Andris at some point. <v Speaker 4>Once I had seen Raiders of Lost Dark with my <v Speaker 4>best friend at the time. He's like, man, we've got <v Speaker 4>to go see for Your Eyes Only. It's the new <v Speaker 4>James Bond movie. And I had never heard of James Bond. <v Speaker 4>I'm like, what are you talking about. He's like, well, <v Speaker 4>if you like Raiders of the Lost Dark, you'll definitely <v Speaker 4>like for Your Eyes Only. And so we went to <v Speaker 4>the movie theater and I was like, this is the <v Speaker 4>greatest summer I've ever had because I just saw Raiders <v Speaker 4>and now I'm watching James Bond and it was just awesome, <v Speaker 4>and so that was my first experience awesome. <v Speaker 1>Van, tell us about you, and at least tell us <v Speaker 1>about your James Bond podcasts and your Bond, your relationship <v Speaker 1>to Bond and the franchise. <v Speaker 2>I am Van Allen Plexico. <v Speaker 5>I run the White Rocket Entertainment Network, which has a <v Speaker 5>number of different podcasts channels, but the one relevant here <v Speaker 5>is on Her Majesty's Secret Podcast. When I came up <v Speaker 5>with that name several years ago, I said, well, now <v Speaker 5>I've got to have a show, because that's too good <v Speaker 5>of a name not to actually use. <v Speaker 2>And so Alan J. <v Speaker 5>Porter, the author of many books on James Bond. He <v Speaker 5>and I do a occasional review. We're working our second <v Speaker 5>way through the movies now. The first time we just <v Speaker 5>kind of did long reviews of them, discussing every aspect, <v Speaker 5>every scene, every moment. This time we're doing kind of <v Speaker 5>like categories, rating the girls, the gadgets, the villains and <v Speaker 5>all that as we go through. <v Speaker 2>So that's what we've been doing lately. <v Speaker 5>But there are other folks on that show, including Raymond Benson, <v Speaker 5>the author. He comes on occasionally we talk about Bond music, <v Speaker 5>the scores and everything. <v Speaker 2>So we have a lot of fun on that series. <v Speaker 2>It's that secret. <v Speaker 5>Podcast dot Podbean dot com. As far as me, I <v Speaker 5>think my first exposure to Bond was in the early <v Speaker 5>seventies on like the ABC Sunday Night Movie when they <v Speaker 5>would show either, they kept switching back. Say I never <v Speaker 5>had the Who's Bond thing, because they would one week <v Speaker 5>they would show Diamonds or Forever, and the next week <v Speaker 5>they would show Live and Let Die, and they'd switch <v Speaker 5>back and forth. So I was getting Sean Connery and <v Speaker 5>Roger Moore kind of in equal doses, and so I <v Speaker 5>thought of them both as Bond, and then I saw <v Speaker 5>I have a love hate relationship though in the mid <v Speaker 5>seventies because we were in Florida on a vacation and <v Speaker 5>there was Star Wars was out and I was dying <v Speaker 5>to see Star Wars and we went and saw The <v Speaker 5>Spy Who Loved Me. So I've always hated The Spy <v Speaker 5>Who Loved Me. Even though I'd acknowledge it's a good <v Speaker 5>Bond film, I hate it because it kept me from <v Speaker 5>seeing Star Wars for like four months. <v Speaker 2>And as far as. <v Speaker 5>Bond goes, I really do like the idea of a <v Speaker 5>secret agent. <v Speaker 2>That s exactly. He's kind of his own guy. <v Speaker 5>He's a really interesting character and charismatic and exciting, and <v Speaker 5>he's held up for all these going on sixty years now. <v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's not more. Yeah, so very good. <v Speaker 1>And the last participant in our draft today is Pat <v Speaker 1>Cantagallo from the thirty something podcast. <v Speaker 2>Pat, tell us. <v Speaker 1>About your show, what you got going on and any <v Speaker 1>relationship to Bond. <v Speaker 6>Okay, so thirty something movie podcast, it's actually the show. <v Speaker 6>The guy that ran the show starts the show is <v Speaker 6>my friend John Ree, and he got a bunch of <v Speaker 6>us together. We're all teachers. We would all sit when <v Speaker 6>we'd have break time or blunch or whatever, we'd sit <v Speaker 6>down and just talk about movies, all right, our friends Jeff, <v Speaker 6>Dennis Bow, myself, and then we would just sit and <v Speaker 6>talk movies. There were sometimes we'd we'd be sitting there <v Speaker 6>and have entire conversations just using movie quotes. And sometimes <v Speaker 6>that would just completely weird the other teachers, Like sometimes <v Speaker 6>students wouldn't know where the really you know, the smart <v Speaker 6>students would always, you know, pick up on what we <v Speaker 6>were saying. And so finally John's like, you know what <v Speaker 6>I've always wanted to do a podcast. Let's put this <v Speaker 6>all together and let's just talk about movies as a podcast. <v Speaker 6>And so the way our show works is that we <v Speaker 6>review movies that are coming up on their thirtieth anniversary. <v Speaker 6>So right now, each year we do one movie a <v Speaker 6>week from thirty years ago. So right now we're working <v Speaker 6>through nineteen ninety three, and we just got done with <v Speaker 6>the film. It's Quentin Tarantino wrote the script. Christian Slater <v Speaker 6>start in it. It's called True Romance, And like it's <v Speaker 6>been great because you know, I had never seen that <v Speaker 6>movie before, and so like I was blown away with <v Speaker 6>this and it's awesome going back, how did I miss <v Speaker 6>this movie? And then all of a sudden, like the <v Speaker 6>next week we could be doing, for example, Jurassic Park. Okay, <v Speaker 6>I've seen this movie. Is that really already thirty years old? <v Speaker 6>Like where did that come from? And getting together and realizing, wow, <v Speaker 6>I've had all these feelings about this movie that's thirty <v Speaker 6>years old. So does everybody else, you know. So it's <v Speaker 6>been a pretty cool, pretty cool experience doing the podcast. <v Speaker 6>As far as when Bond started, I started watching Bond <v Speaker 6>with my grandparents and my dad, those Sunday Night movies <v Speaker 6>that you talk about. My grandmother was a huge James <v Speaker 6>Bond fan, a huge Sean Connery fan. So yeah, I <v Speaker 6>would grow up and, like you were saying, kind of <v Speaker 6>got the Sean Connery and Roger Moore in equal doses. <v Speaker 6>And that's kind of where it all where it all started, <v Speaker 6>you know, I was raised. My grandma made sure that <v Speaker 6>I understood that, you know, Sean Connery was the best Bond, <v Speaker 6>but there were some other Bonds. And then it just <v Speaker 6>kind of followed through the rest of my life every level, <v Speaker 6>you know, all the way up through college, and there <v Speaker 6>was always a group of people that were Bond fans. <v Speaker 6>So I got to kind of like grow up. <v Speaker 2>With the series. Well, very good, if I could. <v Speaker 1>I'll just share a little bit of my relationship with <v Speaker 1>the Bond franchise because it sounds very similar to Jeff's. <v Speaker 2>My dad graduated high school. <v Speaker 1>In nineteen sixty three, which I think is the year <v Speaker 1>that Doctor Note was released in the United States, and <v Speaker 1>so he was kind of the Bond generation through all <v Speaker 1>that super Spike crazy in the sixties, and that was <v Speaker 1>something that he and I shared. You know, he took <v Speaker 1>me to my first Bond movie View to a Kill. <v Speaker 1>When I was a freshman in high school, I must <v Speaker 1>have been, and so that one was my first experience <v Speaker 1>with James Bond, and I had a good time with <v Speaker 1>my dad. So I don't hate that movie as much <v Speaker 1>as most people seem to. But that became a tradition. <v Speaker 1>There's something my dad and I bonded over. We saw <v Speaker 1>every James Bond movie that came out. That continued into <v Speaker 1>my adulthood, and after I'd moved away there was a <v Speaker 1>new Bond movie, I'd make the trip down to my hometown. <v Speaker 1>We'd go see it together, and so that's always been <v Speaker 1>kind of special to me. He passed away after a <v Speaker 1>Casino Royal. That was the last one that I saw <v Speaker 1>with him, and I have not I haven't really been <v Speaker 1>particularly in the mood to see a new release since then. <v Speaker 2>I haven't. I don't know if I will, to be. <v Speaker 1>Honest, but I remain a casual Bond fan and I <v Speaker 1>will still watch all the old ones occasionally. I'll go <v Speaker 1>on a binge every once in a while. So I'm <v Speaker 1>not a huge Bond fan. So when this topic came up, <v Speaker 1>I didn't feel like I knew enough to be able <v Speaker 1>to have an conduct my own intelligent enough of a draft. <v Speaker 1>So but I'm I'm a casual fan. I'm not a <v Speaker 1>hater of it for sure. So I'm excited to be <v Speaker 1>able to help you all out with this today. And <v Speaker 1>I think we're getting ready to get started. We'll start drafting. <v Speaker 1>We're gonna just go through Fantasy football style snake draft. <v Speaker 1>We're gonna donna go snake style, but in each round <v Speaker 1>we'll start with with a different person, so I'll just <v Speaker 1>keep that straight. <v Speaker 2>We don't have to worry about it too much. <v Speaker 1>So before we get started on drafting our Bond girls, <v Speaker 1>I asked everyone to submit to me their own idea <v Speaker 1>for a Bond girl name, their own original Bond Girl name, <v Speaker 1>and that I would use the quality of their puns <v Speaker 1>to determine the draft order. And these guys do not <v Speaker 1>know what I've decided. They don't even know what everybody <v Speaker 1>else has even come up with. <v Speaker 2>So here we go. I'm gonna start. <v Speaker 1>So they're all great, They're all solid, right, They're all <v Speaker 1>absolutely usable. I could see them in a Bond movie. <v Speaker 1>But I have to rank them, so I'm gonna go <v Speaker 1>at number four. <v Speaker 2>Is gonna be Van with New Mind was a word. <v Speaker 2>So so what I try. <v Speaker 1>I judge these based on, like how much does this <v Speaker 1>fit the convention of what the Bond movies do? Okay, <v Speaker 1>So Van's entry was Gloria Climax, So it's good. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's pretty good. <v Speaker 1>Not not you know, not unfathomable that it might be used. <v Speaker 2>Okay, but uh, but well it. <v Speaker 5>Was the only one I could think of that didn't <v Speaker 5>it wasn't already a porn star. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're all kind of used up, right. So the <v Speaker 1>third one is gonna be Pat. Pat had a great <v Speaker 1>sounding Bond name. It Fanny good Bottom. So I uh, <v Speaker 1>At first, I was going to deduct points for the <v Speaker 1>use of Fanny, thinking it was a little bit of <v Speaker 1>an old, old fashioned name. Then I remember that James <v Speaker 1>Bond goes back the movies go back to nineteen sixty two, <v Speaker 1>so I think you, uh, I think you get away <v Speaker 1>with Fanny good Bottom. <v Speaker 2>So get off, I get off. <v Speaker 1>Find So it's a quality name, but we got some <v Speaker 1>we got some tough entries ahead of you. So number <v Speaker 1>two is actually my favorite one. So number two is <v Speaker 1>gonna be Jeff Johnson. So Jeff came up with a <v Speaker 1>fantastic name. It is Nakata spits. <v Speaker 2>Now. <v Speaker 1>The reason why that is so good is, well, those <v Speaker 1>of us that speak Croatian already know how good of <v Speaker 1>a name that is. But if you need Nakata translated <v Speaker 1>into English, it is never. <v Speaker 4>Oh yes, there we go. <v Speaker 6>Okay, okay, okay. <v Speaker 2>So top shelf punk quality. <v Speaker 1>But also I don't think the Bond movies make you <v Speaker 1>work that hard for the punchline. So I put him <v Speaker 1>in second place, and Jason Colvin I think absolutely nails <v Speaker 1>the spirit of. <v Speaker 2>The movies with Ophelia Mellon's. <v Speaker 3>Nicely Doe. <v Speaker 1>So to start off, the draft order will be Jason, Jeff, <v Speaker 1>Pat and Van and we'll go from there. <v Speaker 4>My goal today was not to get in trouble with <v Speaker 4>my wife or anybody at my church. I think I'm <v Speaker 4>over to already. So yeah, all right, very good. <v Speaker 1>Well, guys, I think we're ready to get started on <v Speaker 1>drafting our Bond girls. <v Speaker 2>So Jason Colvin, you are on the clock. <v Speaker 4>Yes, okay, Well, this is the first pick out of <v Speaker 4>the gate. Thank you very much, Dave. I know who <v Speaker 4>I'm gonna take, and I'll tell you right off the bat. <v Speaker 4>This is the girl who impacted me the most emotionally <v Speaker 4>when I watched this movie. Okay, so she actually dies <v Speaker 4>in the movie, This, of course is Vesper, Linda. I'm <v Speaker 4>going Vesper right out of the gate from Casino Royale. <v Speaker 4>She was playing Bond, but she actually fell in love <v Speaker 4>with him and then her your death scene was just <v Speaker 4>incredibly moving, and I love Cassino Royal. So I'm taking <v Speaker 4>Vesper right out of the gate. <v Speaker 5>That would have probably been my first pick. Jason, Hey, <v Speaker 5>can I just say the thing I was thinking about <v Speaker 5>strategy wise? Here is something I learned from fantasy football. <v Speaker 5>You don't necessarily take the one you want the most <v Speaker 5>or you like the most. You take the one that's <v Speaker 5>going to be the hardest to get later. <v Speaker 4>That's true. <v Speaker 5>And if you hadn't taken her, I would have eventually. <v Speaker 5>So yeah, that was a very good move. <v Speaker 4>I think, thank you, thank you, all right. <v Speaker 2>Very good. No other thoughts on that. We'll move on ahead. <v Speaker 3>Jeff, you're up, Well, I'll tell you like Van, Vesper <v Speaker 3>definitely would have been my choice. So I've got my <v Speaker 3>ranking system that I came up with, So I'm gonna <v Speaker 3>go to my number two overall pick, which happens to. <v Speaker 4>Be the very first Bond girl for me. <v Speaker 3>Talking about honor, Blackman in nineteen sixty four is Goldfinger <v Speaker 3>playing pussy Galore. <v Speaker 4>I must be dreaming. That's a good one. I mean, <v Speaker 4>most people know her name, she's got that great Bond name. Yeah, <v Speaker 4>you know, she was thirty nine at the time of <v Speaker 4>filming Goldfinger. <v Speaker 5>She was the only Bond girl older than the Bond <v Speaker 5>actor until Monica Bulucci inspector. <v Speaker 4>Wow. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, I thought I thought Monica had the record, but <v Speaker 3>I didn't know. I didn't know Honor was that close. <v Speaker 2>So older than Sean Connery, yeah, wow. <v Speaker 6>And she was a I mean, she was such a <v Speaker 6>great character, like an actual strong part of that movie. <v Speaker 6>And I mean, like, you know, she's a pilot too, <v Speaker 6>which like immediately makes higher street credit. <v Speaker 2>So yeah, very cool character. <v Speaker 5>She's a lesbian and Sean Connery's bond is able to <v Speaker 5>bring her over to the side, so that right there. <v Speaker 2>She couldn't do that today, but sixty three or whatever. Yeah. <v Speaker 3>I love the fact that she know she she's fem fatale, <v Speaker 3>you know, classic femme fatale, because you know, she she <v Speaker 3>goes toe to toe with him. You know, she's not <v Speaker 3>the damsel in distress that you typically see a Bond <v Speaker 3>girl be, so like like Pat was saying, she's definitely <v Speaker 3>got strength. <v Speaker 4>I love that her, all. <v Speaker 2>Right, so we'll keep going. So Pat, you're up next, <v Speaker 2>You're on the clock. <v Speaker 6>Then you kind of foreshadowed where I was going with this. <v Speaker 6>I've got to pick one of my favorite actresses of <v Speaker 6>all time that when I found out she was going <v Speaker 6>to be a Bond girl, Miss Monica Balucci, I was <v Speaker 6>like absolutely floored, and I so I'm going to go <v Speaker 6>out of the gate. I'm going to Luccia Sciara. And <v Speaker 6>I gotta be honest. They always say, like, behave be <v Speaker 6>careful with the fantasy draft. Don't just you know, pick <v Speaker 6>from your favorite team or pick for your favorite you know, <v Speaker 6>and all that. But I'm just going to break that <v Speaker 6>rule because I love everything that I've seen Monica Balucci <v Speaker 6>act in. And it's an understatement to say she's an <v Speaker 6>incredibly attractive human being. But what I think is amazing <v Speaker 6>is kind of what we were talking about with the <v Speaker 6>actress that was in the first Bond film. She was <v Speaker 6>older than Daniel Craig at the time. You know, you <v Speaker 6>start reading about this that so many you know that <v Speaker 6>you cast like a fifty five year old dude with <v Speaker 6>like a twenty year old gal and it's like, okay, well, <v Speaker 6>you know, where is this all coming from, you know, <v Speaker 6>And but she gets on screen and I mean, she <v Speaker 6>is incredibly attractive on screen. The hard part is that <v Speaker 6>she has only a small part of the movie. But <v Speaker 6>my gosh, what's done with that time? The scene where <v Speaker 6>she's walking in in the movie Specter, the after the <v Speaker 6>funeral scene, and she's just walking in and you see <v Speaker 6>on her face like just resignation that she knows that <v Speaker 6>she's going to be, you know, assassinated next, and it's <v Speaker 6>just the camera follows her and you're immediately captivated by <v Speaker 6>the way she walks and just the most subtle facial expressions. <v Speaker 6>And then when the assassins appear and you can see <v Speaker 6>resolution she knows what's coming next. Then surprise that when <v Speaker 6>Bond says her, and then the anger it all flashes, <v Speaker 6>and all it is it's just a couple of looks, <v Speaker 6>you know, just a couple of like, you know, twitches <v Speaker 6>here and there, little eyebrow raised here. I mean, what <v Speaker 6>she can communicate is pretty amazing. So that's going to <v Speaker 6>be my first pick out of the gate. <v Speaker 4>That's good. I've listened to thirty something enough to know <v Speaker 4>that that was probably gonna be high on your list. <v Speaker 6>Yeah, I would have failed myself if I didn't go there. <v Speaker 3>So well, let's be let's be honest. I don't care <v Speaker 3>what kind of list we're putting together. If Monica Blalucci <v Speaker 3>is not at the top of it, that's right. <v Speaker 2>That something's wrong. <v Speaker 3>You know, something's wrong with the list. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go. <v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, then if it's my turn, let me address that. Actually, <v Speaker 5>because here's what I did. I made a list the <v Speaker 5>other day off the top of my head, right in <v Speaker 5>the order I just off the top of my head thought. <v Speaker 5>And then you guys sent out the list of the <v Speaker 5>five traits to kind of grade them by, and I'm like, oh, <v Speaker 5>which was beauty, talent, chemistry, importance, I guess to the movie, <v Speaker 5>and X factor. I reordered my entire list using a <v Speaker 5>scale of one to ten for each of those things, <v Speaker 5>and the order completely changed. <v Speaker 2>Because there were Bond girls. <v Speaker 5>That I did not rate highly just on terms of <v Speaker 5>how I feel about them, But when I categorized them <v Speaker 5>by how they ranked in those things, I was like, WHOA. <v Speaker 5>There were some that came way up and there were <v Speaker 5>a few that went down. I will say this the <v Speaker 5>two highest on my draft board are still there. I <v Speaker 5>got to pick which one of those I want to grab. <v Speaker 2>And you've each take. <v Speaker 5>I have four pages of Bond Girls, and you've taken <v Speaker 5>one from page one, page two in page three. <v Speaker 2>So far, so interesting. <v Speaker 5>All right, So I gotta like, I say, my rule <v Speaker 5>of fantasy drafting is take the one that's take the <v Speaker 5>highest value when it's available, and so I am taking Solitaire. <v Speaker 2>Jane Seymour. <v Speaker 4>Oom, that's a good one. <v Speaker 2>I'm glad she was there. I think she's my favorite <v Speaker 2>Jane Seymour. <v Speaker 1>She got cast into a Bond film at just the <v Speaker 1>right time of her career. <v Speaker 2>I'm a big fan of Solitaire. <v Speaker 5>Isn't it funny that she's in a Bond movie? In <v Speaker 5>seventy three and five years later, Battlestar Galactica says, introducing <v Speaker 5>Jane Seymour, Yeah, what's the Bond girl? <v Speaker 2>What are you talking about? Introducing to Space. <v Speaker 4>Elons Van. <v Speaker 3>I'm look, I'll tell you right now, that's my Solitaire <v Speaker 3>was my number three. <v Speaker 2>Overall. <v Speaker 3>I'm not even sad about you taking her because I knew. <v Speaker 3>I knew Jason's a big fan of her wardrobe in <v Speaker 3>that show, in that movie, so I knew if you <v Speaker 3>weren't taking her, he probably was. So yeah, great pick Van. <v Speaker 4>Did you know that she she did Playboy at age <v Speaker 4>sixty seven, and that's. <v Speaker 2>Well she could. I'm sure she can. He's incredible. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, for the part of solitaire, they actually were interested <v Speaker 4>in Goldie Han and Helen Mirren for that role. I <v Speaker 4>did not know that about that. <v Speaker 2>Wow. Nice. I think Helene seventy three, Helen Mirren. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, that would have worked. Goldie Han, That's a that's <v Speaker 3>an interesting choice. Yeah, you know she's. <v Speaker 2>More of the wacky helper to Bond, I would think. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, she's more good Night than Solitaire. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's definitely a good Night on solitaire. <v Speaker 2>She's more Denise Richards category. What elic don't be me? <v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, gentleman, fellow double o's. <v Speaker 2>I mean, no one's drafting Tonise Richards. <v Speaker 4>You see on my number two. <v Speaker 2>Overall she's on the board. But we don't get to Christmas. <v Speaker 2>But very good. All right, So we are going in <v Speaker 2>a snake format, which means Van, you get to pick again. <v Speaker 5>Now here's the here's the question. Do I think number <v Speaker 5>one I have now taken? I'm not taking number two <v Speaker 5>off the board. I went ahead and took number two <v Speaker 5>instead of number one off of my draft board because <v Speaker 5>I thought that was the right pick. Now the question is, <v Speaker 5>if it's number one on my draft board, do I <v Speaker 5>think that they're going to pop up again before I <v Speaker 5>get to pick again? Maybe my number one, you see <v Speaker 5>the strategy. Maybe my number one is just me? Or <v Speaker 5>do I really want her so bad I gotta go <v Speaker 5>ahead and spend that second pick. But honestly, oh my gosh, yeah, <v Speaker 5>I think she's gonna still be there. I think she's <v Speaker 5>going to still be there. So I'm going to go <v Speaker 5>down the board a little bit and get another high <v Speaker 5>powered banger. This is a top five bond girl. I'm <v Speaker 5>taking Molina have a lot caro old bouquet from for Your. <v Speaker 2>Eyes Only Boom. <v Speaker 5>I feel very good about that pick. Molina have a lot, <v Speaker 5>I like have a lot. Okay, yep, the Greek crossbow wielder. <v Speaker 4>That's right, the steely blue eyes. Have a soft spot <v Speaker 4>for her just because she was my first bond girl. <v Speaker 2>Oh, there you go, She's something. And then later Neil <v Speaker 2>number five spokesgirl. Right, that's right, you an't go wrong there. <v Speaker 5>Let's see if my number one overall is going to <v Speaker 5>be there in five fix. I'm gonna be like pitting bullets. <v Speaker 2>Now. <v Speaker 4>She auditioned for the role of doctor Goodhead. <v Speaker 1>That's right, mind record, which came before Eyes Only, right, <v Speaker 1>she came back, tried to get enough. <v Speaker 4>To bring her back. So how about that. <v Speaker 5>She would have been an odd choice for doctor Goodhead. <v Speaker 5>That's I think they went the right. She's more exotic. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, very good art. So we're back to pat. <v Speaker 6>So I've been sitting here like making notes and scratching <v Speaker 6>out and trying to do that, you know, and all <v Speaker 6>this kind of thing, and uh, you know, and then <v Speaker 6>you brought up like the ranking system and this, and so, <v Speaker 6>you know, then I threw it all out the window, <v Speaker 6>you know all that. So all right, so enough enough <v Speaker 6>of this kind of thretting around over here. I'm going <v Speaker 6>to go. I'm going to go with Michelle Yo. <v Speaker 2>That was my number one on my board right there. <v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, I misspoked. I'm going with may Day. No, okay, <v Speaker 6>So so I'm dude, I'm sorry. So now I feel bad. <v Speaker 5>And this is oh no, that was my choice. <v Speaker 2>I'm She'll be there six picks from now. <v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm sorry, man, I'm sorry. <v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. <v Speaker 6>I'm just well, I mean you probably could fill in <v Speaker 6>the gaps too. I mean, awesome action star, awesome fighting skills, <v Speaker 6>viable part of the movie, excellent counterpoint to Bond as <v Speaker 6>well as Pierce Brosnan. I love motorcycles. And check that <v Speaker 6>scene out. That's pretty awesome scene, right, It's just great. <v Speaker 6>You know the movies that I was seeing in the <v Speaker 6>in the in the nineties. You know, I'm sure she <v Speaker 6>had like a huge body of work beyond that, but <v Speaker 6>I mean, like Prouching Tiger, hidn't Dragon, and just you know, <v Speaker 6>so we'd seen that seeing her in Bond, that that <v Speaker 6>was awesome, and so like jumping in like as an actress, <v Speaker 6>but then also as a character, like if I was <v Speaker 6>going to go on a secret mission, like I would <v Speaker 6>want her back in the up and so I yeah, <v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, man, Van, why don't you jump in with <v Speaker 6>your thought I'm feeling bad now, I'm feeling bad. <v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, I was my role in the dies. <v Speaker 5>I just thought that, like the I just thought like <v Speaker 5>the hot blondes and stuff would go first. And she <v Speaker 5>is kind of a tough action girl might hang around <v Speaker 5>a little longer, but she's always been my number one <v Speaker 5>Bond girl. She's one of the two Bond characters other <v Speaker 5>than Bond and Felix. She's one of the other two characters. <v Speaker 5>I want a solo series out of. I want a <v Speaker 5>Waylan series and a Tiger Tanaka series. Those two would <v Speaker 5>kick Butt and solo series. And they almost did it. <v Speaker 5>They talked about doing the Michelle Yo Spy series. They <v Speaker 5>ended up not doing it because Eon always makes the <v Speaker 5>wrong choice and things like that. Yeah, he's fantastic. <v Speaker 6>Yeah, I've read that, and it's kind of like, how <v Speaker 6>does that stuff not get made when I've got to <v Speaker 6>deal with all the other. <v Speaker 2>How do you not do it? Yeah? <v Speaker 3>Hey, Van, I'll tell you if you've seen If you <v Speaker 3>guys have seen everything everywhere all at once, she could <v Speaker 3>absolutely still be way Lan and do an action series. <v Speaker 3>As far as I'm going, she was amazing in that <v Speaker 3>She's amazing overall. Good pick Pat. <v Speaker 2>I was familiar. <v Speaker 1>I happened to be familiar with her through Jackie Chan movies, <v Speaker 1>and so it's my impression at the time, and you <v Speaker 1>tell me if I'm right or wrong, was that she <v Speaker 1>really was like the first one to me that was more, <v Speaker 1>was a lot more than just eye candy. <v Speaker 2>And was like legitimately like. <v Speaker 1>Had the most agency of no pun intended of any <v Speaker 1>Bond girl and was really a significant character in her <v Speaker 1>own right and her own strength and all that kind <v Speaker 1>of stuff that does that really kind of was she <v Speaker 1>the new standard once that happened, once that movie came out. <v Speaker 2>Two Degree. Yeah. <v Speaker 5>My favorite story about her is she flew over from <v Speaker 5>Hong Kong and she gets there and they're like, oh, <v Speaker 5>you speak English. She says, yeah, I learned on the plane. <v Speaker 2>All right. So we're back to Jeff. <v Speaker 3>Well, I'll tell you something we're doing. We're doing this <v Speaker 3>football style draft. And one thing I love about what <v Speaker 3>Jason and d do on Surely you Can't Be Serious podcast. <v Speaker 2>Is the deep dive. <v Speaker 3>They're always giving us the fun facts and the stuff <v Speaker 3>you never thought of. <v Speaker 2>Right. <v Speaker 3>I love it, and I'm expecting Jason. I'm expecting a <v Speaker 3>lot of that from Jason today. But man, I'm also <v Speaker 3>getting a little nervous because I'm afraid like when he <v Speaker 3>says certain things, it's almost like I got a draft <v Speaker 3>a running back, and then the guy nextly starts talking <v Speaker 3>about the running backs that are still available, and your <v Speaker 3>your three picks away. So Jason Jason dropped this name, <v Speaker 3>but uh, my number two pick is gonna be nineteen <v Speaker 3>seventy nine's Holly Goodhead played by the lovely Lois Childs <v Speaker 3>in Moonraker. <v Speaker 2>O Woman, Yes, one of the worst woman. <v Speaker 3>Yeah woman, Yeah, and she's very observant of you from. <v Speaker 5>That point the rest of the movie. She's just pissed <v Speaker 5>off at him. <v Speaker 2>I love that. Yeah. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, They've got great chemistry in that in that one. <v Speaker 3>Because because of that, you know, they they really ratchet <v Speaker 3>up the battle of sexes in Moonraker and let's let's <v Speaker 3>be honest again, not a damsel distress. She's the one <v Speaker 3>flying the shuttle at the end of the you know, <v Speaker 3>she's saving the day. So I'm quickly realizing that I've <v Speaker 3>now drafted two of the most notoriously named Bond girls. <v Speaker 2>In the franchise. <v Speaker 3>That was not part of my my agenda. <v Speaker 2>I assure you. <v Speaker 1>I have a question which movie had the more believable <v Speaker 1>outer outer space. <v Speaker 2>Scenes, moon Breaker or Superman four. <v Speaker 6>I think you just gave Man just gave all the <v Speaker 6>podcasts like an idea. <v Speaker 4>For I'm going with the attempted re entry by Bond and. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll take I'll take good heead over the the <v Speaker 3>Quest for Piece any day? <v Speaker 2>All right? <v Speaker 1>So uh, to end the first round, we're back to <v Speaker 1>We're back to Jason Cove and Jason what you got? <v Speaker 4>Okay, my number two overall pick is still available, So <v Speaker 4>I'm super excited. So I'm a guy. This is gonna <v Speaker 4>get me in trouble too. I like the girls that like, <v Speaker 4>she's either gonna kill me or I'm gonna have the <v Speaker 4>greatest sex of my life. Right So so so I'm <v Speaker 4>taking Xania on the top Janssen from GoldenEye, who had <v Speaker 4>the killer thighs and wanted to kill Bond, but man, <v Speaker 4>she was smoking in that meat. So taking Do you <v Speaker 4>know that they wanted Courtney Cox for that role? How <v Speaker 4>about that? <v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I could I could see. <v Speaker 3>I could see that with some of the stuff, you know, <v Speaker 3>we we we quickly always look at her as as <v Speaker 3>Monica from Friends, but some of her roles, I could <v Speaker 3>I could see that she could have done that. <v Speaker 2>You know, I would have put her in a Terry <v Speaker 2>Hetcher category. But yes, yes, yeah, but I think Finkey has. <v Speaker 1>That exotic flavor that's gonna make her a better Bond <v Speaker 1>girl than than Courtney Cox. <v Speaker 2>I think but you know, I love GoldenEye. <v Speaker 1>That was that was when it came out, it was <v Speaker 1>immediately my favorite one I'd ever seen. But it was <v Speaker 1>also it was on the top that would really made <v Speaker 1>me go, oh, I need to be pay attention to <v Speaker 1>these girls'. <v Speaker 2>Names like that. <v Speaker 1>One comes high, come here, And I was like, okay, <v Speaker 1>you know, other than a couple of the obvious ones <v Speaker 1>that Jeff's already drafted, a lot of the others had <v Speaker 1>gotten past me, so so that one always stands out. <v Speaker 2>I like Golden a lot. No more trivia from the Shirley. <v Speaker 4>You can't be serious, guys, No, no, keep going man. <v Speaker 1>All right, so we're starting round two. We're gonna do <v Speaker 1>another snake, but this time we'll uh, it'll start and <v Speaker 1>end with Jeff, Jeff, what you got. <v Speaker 3>This is tough because I'm kind of I'm seeing how <v Speaker 3>some of the guys are going with you know, hey, <v Speaker 3>not not at the top of my order, but I <v Speaker 3>kind of wont her. So I'm gonna do that. This <v Speaker 3>isn't my next overall pick, but I'm gonna dip down <v Speaker 3>a little bit. I gotta I gotta take Honey Rider, <v Speaker 3>Miss the Lovely Ursula andres from Doctor No. Nineteen sixty <v Speaker 3>two good for all the right reasons. Let's be honest. <v Speaker 3>The Bond girl, that's a thing because of Ursula Andres. <v Speaker 2>She's she's where. <v Speaker 3>It all started, you know, she coming out of that <v Speaker 3>water and the white the white bikini with the dagger, <v Speaker 3>you know. And I gotta say, even for I have <v Speaker 3>to believe anyone that's even whether you're a hardcore fan, <v Speaker 3>you know, or you're just a casual viewer, everybody knows <v Speaker 3>that scene. Everyone knows that that look, and they relate <v Speaker 3>it to James Bond. So taking a taking honey rider. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a great, big man. Some of those old <v Speaker 4>sixties women they seem a little bit like a young <v Speaker 4>version of my grandmother or something. But Ursula Andres, her beauty, <v Speaker 4>it's timeless, which I told you. I don't know if <v Speaker 4>I told you this, Jeff, But researching these Bond girls, <v Speaker 4>Ursula Andres had a love affair with Harry Hamlin on <v Speaker 4>the set of Clash of the Titans, and they had <v Speaker 4>a son from that relationship. <v Speaker 3>I was like, get out of town thinking about the <v Speaker 3>genetics there. That's that's that's that's a great looking kid. Aphrodite, <v Speaker 3>and and and perright, come on. <v Speaker 1>I mean that that shot of her walking out in <v Speaker 1>the white bikini, you know, and being in the first movie, <v Speaker 1>I think really icon and one of the defining moments <v Speaker 1>that kind of set the pace and the framework going forward. <v Speaker 1>And I'm sure it was made a huge impact on <v Speaker 1>American audiences in sixty three. It's uh, you know, it's <v Speaker 1>just one of those, I think, one of the iconic <v Speaker 1>film moments that kind of let everybody know right away <v Speaker 1>that this this whole franchise had legs. <v Speaker 2>Well they even copied it themselves. <v Speaker 5>Later with halle Berry and then later with Daniel Craig, <v Speaker 5>so it's like happened three times in the movies. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, right right, remember the halle Berry homage there? All right, <v Speaker 2>very good. So we're gonna go with Pat Pat, You're. <v Speaker 6>Up next, Okay, So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go <v Speaker 6>with Paloma from No Time to Die And that was <v Speaker 6>played by Anna de Armas and Jason I think I'm <v Speaker 6>off your Christmas card list. <v Speaker 4>Now I love I love her and that yes, stunning. <v Speaker 6>Yeah, amazing. And so so here's what got me, you know, like, <v Speaker 6>like I said, big Bond fan, and when this film <v Speaker 6>came out, it was, you know, like getting back to <v Speaker 6>the theaters after COVID and all this kind of thing. <v Speaker 6>I'm like, Okay, I am going back, and I'm I <v Speaker 6>don't care if I'm going by myself. I'm going to <v Speaker 6>see this movie in the theaters. And so I got <v Speaker 6>a chance to see it, and I loved the whole movie, <v Speaker 6>and she was such a wonderful part of the movie <v Speaker 6>and the thing that I loved. And it was like <v Speaker 6>I was sitting in a theater almost wishing, like, man, <v Speaker 6>I wish I was at home so I could like <v Speaker 6>rewind and watch these scenes again. Because what I found <v Speaker 6>amazing is that at first it started off in my <v Speaker 6>mind like the stereotypical Bond girl, right, And like all <v Speaker 6>of a sudden, it was like, okay, she's she seems <v Speaker 6>a little bit bubbly, she seems a little out of place. <v Speaker 6>I'm sure that Daniel Krai is going to have to <v Speaker 6>bail her out. And then I started really kind of <v Speaker 6>my own age realizing, Okay, I'm closer to Daniel Craig <v Speaker 6>age than I am to her age. So that kind <v Speaker 6>of reshaped how I was looking at this character. And <v Speaker 6>then when this when the action, like you know when <v Speaker 6>everything started dusting up, and she was incredibly capable at <v Speaker 6>handling herself, incredibly capable in a fight. I mean, was <v Speaker 6>like an effective part of the team. I was just <v Speaker 6>blown away with this because it was such a bait <v Speaker 6>and sweat. You were totally expecting that, Okay, this is <v Speaker 6>gonna be a little she's gonna be out of storts <v Speaker 6>and Bond's gonna have to help her out. The other <v Speaker 6>thing that it only occurred to me after and then <v Speaker 6>I was rewatching is you know, at first, Bond's kind <v Speaker 6>of taken aback by her. She couldn't be less interested <v Speaker 6>in him as a person or like as like an <v Speaker 6>attractive thing. Like even when she's like here, change clothes <v Speaker 6>and he's just like, well, aren't you gonna and she goes, oh, <v Speaker 6>you need me to turn around? Like it just did. <v Speaker 6>It didn't even occur to her, and it was so <v Speaker 6>great that, Okay, now you have a Bond girl. But <v Speaker 6>they show and it was such an effective way to <v Speaker 6>show the age was like, and that's kind of where <v Speaker 6>I'm starting to feel closer Bond, Like he's not even <v Speaker 6>on her radar, like in terms of like physical attraction. <v Speaker 6>She is all about the mission, And I'm just like, <v Speaker 6>how awesome is that? Like you got someone you were <v Speaker 6>baited into thinking she's in experience. She's so focused on <v Speaker 6>the mission, so capable at executing the mission. I was <v Speaker 6>like blown away with that character. I thought, I thought <v Speaker 6>it was I thought it was awesome. And the way <v Speaker 6>Anna d Armis played it was was fantastic. <v Speaker 4>She played Marilyn Monroe down the Road in a movie <v Speaker 4>called Blonde. So she's also. <v Speaker 2>The main character in Knives Out, and. <v Speaker 3>I believe is it she isn't she in the spin off? <v Speaker 3>She's about to do the spin off, the John wickspin <v Speaker 3>off Ballerina. <v Speaker 2>I thought, I haven't heard. Yeah, I'm there, I'm there. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, Pat, I gotta say, I'm I'm tracking your list. <v Speaker 3>And if there's if there's one word I could call it, <v Speaker 3>I would say exotic. There we go, There we go. <v Speaker 5>They're both Craig movies, right, two of two of the <v Speaker 5>three are Yeah, he took. <v Speaker 2>He also took Michelle. <v Speaker 5>Yeoh, in case you forgot, had three she forgot. <v Speaker 2>I don't think he forgot, so Van, you're on the clock, <v Speaker 2>all right. <v Speaker 5>So I was just looking at my draft board here <v Speaker 5>and of the fifth of my top fifteen eight are gone, <v Speaker 5>but there's seven left and I have four that are <v Speaker 5>all tied. So my number five, six, seven, and eight <v Speaker 5>are really just tied for fifth. So I just got <v Speaker 5>to basically flip a roll of four sided die to <v Speaker 5>figure out where I'm going here, because they're all totally. <v Speaker 2>Tied and they're equally good. Yeah. <v Speaker 5>Oh, by the way, talking about Daniel Craig, he is <v Speaker 5>like a week younger than me. <v Speaker 2>I don't have the mileage that he does. <v Speaker 5>I don't, but I haven't done some of the things <v Speaker 5>he's done, though, so I missed out on that far. <v Speaker 5>But anyway, sure, yeah, all right, So I gotta make <v Speaker 5>a choice here, and I've got five, well, I got <v Speaker 5>four tied together to choose among, and I mean, you <v Speaker 5>really can't go wrong with any of these, so I'm <v Speaker 5>gonna go again. I'm using my strategy of high value <v Speaker 5>target and I look at these four and one of <v Speaker 5>them is I think a little more special, just a <v Speaker 5>tiny bit more special, because she's the only one on <v Speaker 5>the entire draft board. That is Missus James Bond. Oh, yes, <v Speaker 5>Vincenzo better known as Tracy Bond. Diana Rigg from on <v Speaker 5>her Majesty's Secret Service. I can't believe she's still here <v Speaker 5>in round three. So I gotta jump, I gotta I <v Speaker 5>have to jump on Diana rig if you'll excuse me. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, Van, you're becoming that You're becoming the guy that <v Speaker 3>steals my picks. <v Speaker 4>Now you're that guy? <v Speaker 2>Pat? Meanwhile, Pat? Okay, so not just me? Yeah? Very good. <v Speaker 1>Well, speaking of ages, I figured out that I am <v Speaker 1>right now the same age Sean Connery was in Never <v Speaker 1>Say Never Again. <v Speaker 2>Oh wow, I may you know. <v Speaker 1>I'm not attracting combasing her types, but I think I'm <v Speaker 1>doing pretty good for myself, all right. <v Speaker 4>When I first saw for you as only you have <v Speaker 4>that opening scene where he's visiting her grave, that's right, <v Speaker 4>and so I was like, whoa, what is this? <v Speaker 2>Like? <v Speaker 4>What what's story is being told here that I don't know? <v Speaker 4>And so that kind of helped drive my interest in Bond. <v Speaker 4>I had to find out who is Teresa Bond? <v Speaker 6>You know, so you go, that's great, and you know, <v Speaker 6>I don't want to get too far off the track, <v Speaker 6>but you know, it's funny on her. Majesty's Secret Service, <v Speaker 6>I don't want to say was ignored, but it was <v Speaker 6>always like the Daniel or not Daniel, the Sean Connery <v Speaker 6>and the Roger Moore Bonds like growing. <v Speaker 2>Up and that's what my grandparents pay. <v Speaker 6>And it was only when I got to college that <v Speaker 6>one of my friends was like, on Her Majesty's Secret <v Speaker 6>Service is the best Bond film ever. This was like <v Speaker 6>early nineties, and I like, really, and he goes the <v Speaker 6>best ever, what you know? And the only thing is <v Speaker 6>like he thought that the actor that portrayed Bond, you know, <v Speaker 6>he had a favorite, you know, I think he liked <v Speaker 6>Sean Connery or whatnot. But yeah, then I watched on <v Speaker 6>Her Majesty's Secret Service and I was blown away, and <v Speaker 6>I thought, missus Bond, like that movie is awesome and <v Speaker 6>somehow maybe I don't know how you guys are with it, <v Speaker 6>but it almost kind of fell in the cracks growing up, <v Speaker 6>you know, between all the other ones going out there. <v Speaker 5>Well, the thing was they wouldn't show it on ABC <v Speaker 5>like they did Live in Life Time and the others, <v Speaker 5>and it was not financially successful like the That's one <v Speaker 5>of the reasons that he didn't return. The other reason <v Speaker 5>was he quit because he got all big head thinking <v Speaker 5>he was the biggest star in the world. But the <v Speaker 5>thing about that Jason you mentioned about Seeing the Grave, <v Speaker 5>that movie was the only one where they just filmed <v Speaker 5>the book. Peter Hunt, the editor, was allowed to direct <v Speaker 5>that one and he said, I'm not going to do <v Speaker 5>some you know, take the book and mess it all up. <v Speaker 5>We're just gonna film the book. And they did, and <v Speaker 5>it really doesn't fit into the series. In fact, Blofeld <v Speaker 5>is in that movie and he's never seen Bond before <v Speaker 5>when he just fought Bond in the previous movie. <v Speaker 2>It doesn't fit in. And you could have just said. <v Speaker 5>It's like outside of continuity, except for for your eyes <v Speaker 5>only brings it back into continuity, so you're stuck with <v Speaker 5>it being Yeah, so it's very confusing, But yeah, that's <v Speaker 5>absolutely It's easy. <v Speaker 1>For me as a casual fan to dismiss it, you know, <v Speaker 1>it's easy to think to myself and that one doesn't <v Speaker 1>really count because it was just a one shot for Lesanbie. <v Speaker 5>That's the movie that the real Bond connoisseurs consider the <v Speaker 5>best in the series. By the way, it's the one <v Speaker 5>that casual fans think is the worst and the Bond <v Speaker 5>fans think is the best. <v Speaker 2>Generally, because truet to the book. <v Speaker 4>Okay, good, pick good, pick. <v Speaker 1>All right, So Jason, you get two in a row here. So, Jason, <v Speaker 1>what's your first one? <v Speaker 4>Oh, I'm so excited that both of these people are <v Speaker 4>still available. So Van I think mentioned that the ABC <v Speaker 4>movies being shown in the seventies and eighties, and that's <v Speaker 4>kind of where I I caught on, I guess in <v Speaker 4>the early eighties. So I watched The Spy Who Loved <v Speaker 4>Me on ABC and absolutely fell in love. That's my <v Speaker 4>favorite Roger Moore James Bond movie. It even surpasses for <v Speaker 4>you it is only which was my first love. So <v Speaker 4>I love The Spy Who Love Me? And so I <v Speaker 4>am taking Agent Triple X as my next pick. <v Speaker 2>Anya, I'm a Silva. <v Speaker 4>Missus ringo star played by Barbara Bach. Her dress was <v Speaker 4>captivating as a young man, so. <v Speaker 5>To say the least, Jason, I appreciate her. Again, I <v Speaker 5>hate the movie for personal reasons. She is not my <v Speaker 5>favorite Bond girl in that movie. <v Speaker 4>Oh what, yeah, my gosh, wow, I. <v Speaker 2>Love it's interesting. This is interesting. <v Speaker 5>So it's such a subjective thing, right, It's all a <v Speaker 5>subjective thing. <v Speaker 2>It's that's what's so cool. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, did you know that she recommended Grace Jones for <v Speaker 4>a view to a kill. Oh wow, I thought that <v Speaker 4>was an interesting admit so. <v Speaker 2>And darn good recommendation. <v Speaker 4>Heck yeah, okay, so am I back to back? <v Speaker 2>Yep, back to back? You get your second pick? <v Speaker 4>All right, all right, I am taking the thirty eight <v Speaker 4>year old beautiful bod Adams as octopusy Octope, even though <v Speaker 4>technically she should be on the board twice. <v Speaker 2>She should be well two different characters. <v Speaker 4>I feel like her chemistry with Roger or because there <v Speaker 4>are both similar ages that I believed it a lot <v Speaker 4>more than him chasing some of these younger girls or <v Speaker 4>Bbi throwing herself at him and that type of thing. <v Speaker 3>So b B doll alone. <v Speaker 5>BET's on my board, but not highly Yeah so uh. <v Speaker 2>I think we're all comic book fans here. <v Speaker 1>When the last time I did a little Bond marathon <v Speaker 1>over the weekend, I was struck by Maud Adams just <v Speaker 1>by how similar she looked to a John Besima drawing. <v Speaker 1>I think, uh, he's one of the best artists when <v Speaker 1>it comes to drawing women, and he has a distinctive style, <v Speaker 1>and I think Maud Adams, especially in this movie, looks <v Speaker 1>like a John Busimma drawing brought. <v Speaker 6>Yeah. <v Speaker 3>Wow, I'm saying I am absolutely seeing that now. <v Speaker 2>Wow. So she makes an impression on me and she <v Speaker 2>has to go high on my board too. All right, <v Speaker 2>very good? <v Speaker 1>Well, uh, Jeff, I'm afraid Jason took one of your <v Speaker 1>one of your you know, Juice, see your names off <v Speaker 1>the board for you. <v Speaker 3>I couldn't take them, all right. <v Speaker 4>When I was at the movie there, I was just <v Speaker 4>gonna say this. In nineteen eighty three, I went to <v Speaker 4>the mood there with my dad and the guy came <v Speaker 4>out and said, the last screening for Octopus. He has <v Speaker 4>been sold out. And these teenagers behind me were like, <v Speaker 4>oc to what oct What? My dad was like, do <v Speaker 4>you ever act that way? Public? I'll kill you? <v Speaker 2>Did you just turn around and watch Never Say Never again? Instead? <v Speaker 4>I think I watched Superman three. <v Speaker 2>Actually, all right, so let's keep it going, and it's <v Speaker 2>a tragedy story from all right, Van, you're back on <v Speaker 2>the block. It's back to you. <v Speaker 5>Well, of my top seven on the board, two are <v Speaker 5>still available, so and then two of my top two <v Speaker 5>more in the top top ten, so four available here. <v Speaker 5>Let me see, I still got three of those that <v Speaker 5>are equally ranked. And I now I got to figure <v Speaker 5>out which one of them is the most gets most. <v Speaker 2>I'll put it this way. I got a Connery, a Craig, <v Speaker 2>and a brazenin I haven't picked the Craig yet. <v Speaker 4>I don't think you still got girls left in the <v Speaker 4>Spy love me. I'm just reminded you this is true. <v Speaker 6>I do. <v Speaker 2>But she's pretty far down though. But I you know what, <v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have to go with this the classic. <v Speaker 5>I gotta go with just the Clare's the thing that's <v Speaker 5>cool about two of them is like neat, but this <v Speaker 5>is just the classic. I would be remiss not to <v Speaker 5>take her when she's there. We just had a Russian <v Speaker 5>agent taked I'm taking another Russian agent, Tatiana Romanova Daniella <v Speaker 5>Bianchi from Russia. <v Speaker 2>With Love. <v Speaker 4>Nice. <v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, she doesn't do a whole lot in <v Speaker 2>that movie, but dang well, she does a lot. <v Speaker 6>For you. <v Speaker 5>She's arguably the most beautiful of all the Bond girls. <v Speaker 5>I would argue, I think if you had it, if <v Speaker 5>just a beauty contest, I think she might be number one. <v Speaker 4>That's why the yeah, right, and I'm sorry, what was <v Speaker 4>the character's name. <v Speaker 2>Romanova related to Black Widow? I was going to say <v Speaker 2>every Russian agent apparently his named Romanov. It is there, <v Speaker 2>all royalty, bizarre. All right, very good, let's keep it going, Pat, <v Speaker 2>you're up, You're on the clock. <v Speaker 6>I was actually until you made that pick, I was <v Speaker 6>kind of like torn between the next two. <v Speaker 2>But this, this is this is that. <v Speaker 6>Okay, it takes one of my picks off the board. <v Speaker 6>There I'm gonna go with the movie Thunderball and Fiona Volpei. <v Speaker 6>There you go, PELUSI yeah, And so Thunderball was I <v Speaker 6>remember seeing all the Bond movies growing up as a kid, <v Speaker 6>but Thunderball was the one that really stuck in my <v Speaker 6>mind because I love the water. I love the ocean, <v Speaker 6>I love the swimmings, I love all of that, and <v Speaker 6>so as a kid, I love boats. I love the water. <v Speaker 6>And that summed it all up. And what I liked <v Speaker 6>about the Fiona character was that she was tough. I mean, <v Speaker 6>I know she was, like, you know, on the bad <v Speaker 6>guy side, but I mean like she was like capable <v Speaker 6>and I'm just reading kind of like one of the <v Speaker 6>bio She has no issue killing anyone who gets in <v Speaker 6>her way or screws up the mission, and like you know, <v Speaker 6>like I mean to say that, you know, killing anyone. <v Speaker 6>But I mean, like we've all had days like that <v Speaker 6>where it's just like, Okay, if anybody screws up the mission, <v Speaker 6>they're going to deal with my bad side, you know. <v Speaker 6>So I really, I just I appreciated that that, you know, <v Speaker 6>like she just came out again. And I'm repeating myself <v Speaker 6>from some of the other characters, but it was just <v Speaker 6>like super focused, super professional, and dangerous because she was <v Speaker 6>on the bad guy side, right but for the bad <v Speaker 6>guy side, super effective. So it was just fun watching <v Speaker 6>her on screen. And she just has to you know, <v Speaker 6>you know, check her six when Bond swirls her around <v Speaker 6>with the dam you know. I would hope that if <v Speaker 6>they reshot this movie today, they would do everything the same, <v Speaker 6>but as opposed to getting like a shot in the back, <v Speaker 6>there would be some epic fight scene like in uh, <v Speaker 6>you know, like in some of the Mission Impossible movies <v Speaker 6>or something like, you know, like they like there would <v Speaker 6>just that would be awesome. But anyways, I digress. That's <v Speaker 6>that's my that's my What was that fourth pick? It <v Speaker 6>would be Fiona Volpe from Thunderball. <v Speaker 5>She has one of my favorite Connery moments of all time. <v Speaker 5>She's in the bathtub and he comes in and he's <v Speaker 5>just sitting there talking to her, and she's got to <v Speaker 5>get up, and she says, would you hand me something <v Speaker 5>to wear? <v Speaker 2>And he hands her shoes. Correct, I love it. Can <v Speaker 2>I bar your towel? My cards just hit a water buffalo? Okay. <v Speaker 2>So to finish up the round, we have Jeff on <v Speaker 2>the clock. <v Speaker 3>Well, Van earlier mentioned we were talking about how we <v Speaker 3>were ranking, how we came up with our rankings, and <v Speaker 3>you know, you immediately want to go with your favorites, right, <v Speaker 3>and then you start using you know, the clever ranking system, <v Speaker 3>and then you figure out, wait, this person wasn't even <v Speaker 3>on my radar, and you know she's my six pick. <v Speaker 3>She's my six overall, which is surprising to me, but <v Speaker 3>I mean I gotta go with the best overall at <v Speaker 3>this point. So talking about nineteen eighty nine Licensed to <v Speaker 3>Kill Pam Bouvier played by the lovely Carrie Lowell, this <v Speaker 3>is one of those things where I was like, wait, <v Speaker 3>how did she get How was she so highly ranked <v Speaker 3>on my list? And I mean she's a freelance pilot <v Speaker 3>for the CIA. <v Speaker 2>That's here. <v Speaker 3>X Factor shot through the roof on that you know, <v Speaker 3>great chemistry with Dalton, so and you know, pretty integral <v Speaker 3>to the story. You know, she's she you know she's <v Speaker 3>informing on the on the bad guy. So surprisingly she <v Speaker 3>was high on the list, and I'm happy to see <v Speaker 3>that she is still there. So I'm taking Pam Bouvier <v Speaker 3>one of my least favorite Bond movies as well. <v Speaker 1>Say, do we have any Dalton haters here? Because I <v Speaker 1>actually I actually liked the Dalton movies. <v Speaker 4>I love Dalton, I love him as a character. I <v Speaker 4>liked Living Daylights. But I'm not a fan of License <v Speaker 4>to Kill. <v Speaker 5>No, No, it's probably my It's in my bottom three, <v Speaker 5>along with A View to a Kill and maybe Octopusy. <v Speaker 2>Honestly, so, Wayne Newton does not strike fear into your heart. No, <v Speaker 2>she's one of the best things about it, though I agree, <v Speaker 2>I can't. <v Speaker 3>I can't see Wayne Newton striking fear, especially after the <v Speaker 3>The Andrew Dice Clay movie. You know, Newton's the bad guy. <v Speaker 3>Come on, we can do better. <v Speaker 1>Wayne Newton's best cinematic appearance was when Ferris Bueller lip <v Speaker 1>synced to him in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. I don't <v Speaker 1>need him as a Bond villain. <v Speaker 2>I agreed. <v Speaker 1>Okay, guys, so we're picking five girls each today and <v Speaker 1>everyone has made four picks. <v Speaker 2>Yes, So we're down to the home stretch. <v Speaker 1>It's going to go Pat is up next and then <v Speaker 1>it'll be Van, Jason and Jeff will close this out. <v Speaker 2>So don't you do it? <v Speaker 6>Okay. So I'm starting to look at this and you know, <v Speaker 6>looking at okay, I'm constructing a team right now, like <v Speaker 6>it's going to accomplish a mission, right like, and how <v Speaker 6>do I balance out the team? You know in my <v Speaker 6>fantasy world that like any one of these characters would <v Speaker 6>follow me anywhere. But the other thing I look at too, <v Speaker 6>is I sometimes and if you listen to the podcast, <v Speaker 6>like the thirty something podcast, like sometimes I'd just like <v Speaker 6>to tick people off, just to kind of do it <v Speaker 6>and change things up or throwing a hey have you <v Speaker 6>thought about this play Devil's Advocate and all that. And <v Speaker 6>so for my final choice, I'm going to go again <v Speaker 6>with No Time to Die, I'm going to go with <v Speaker 6>the female double O seven character of Know Me, played <v Speaker 6>by LASHAWNA Lynch. And I thought that was I thought <v Speaker 6>it was great. I thought that part of the movie <v Speaker 6>was great. I thought the way she played it was great. <v Speaker 6>I thought the way she gave Daniel Craig a hard time, <v Speaker 6>or James Bond, not Daniel Craig, the way she gave <v Speaker 6>James Bond a hard time. <v Speaker 2>Like I'm gonna kick you in the knee, the one <v Speaker 2>that works. I'm just like, oh my god, that is awesome. <v Speaker 6>And then what was great was that that in a <v Speaker 6>way we were watching movie within a movie and she <v Speaker 6>was the new Double O seven on the mission for <v Speaker 6>I six, and that that could have been like a <v Speaker 6>whole Bond movie, like that could have been what Daniel <v Speaker 6>Craig was in Casino Royale. And I thought that she <v Speaker 6>played that so well. I think it was awesome to <v Speaker 6>see a black woman playing the Double oh seven role. <v Speaker 6>And I mean, obviously this isn't the nature of the <v Speaker 6>of what this episode's about, but you know, whenever you <v Speaker 6>change things up, there gets to be controversy, right. I <v Speaker 6>remember when Daniel Craig was cast and everyone was freaking <v Speaker 6>out because he was blonde, and you know, they're like, <v Speaker 6>you can't have a blonde James Bond, Like. <v Speaker 2>What the heck? <v Speaker 6>But I thought they did such a great job of Okay, <v Speaker 6>well no, this is Double oh seven but it's not <v Speaker 6>James Bond and just seeing the interplay and needless to say, <v Speaker 6>she's you know, an m I six double oh. So <v Speaker 6>you know, she's incredibly effective. So if I'm looking at <v Speaker 6>my team here, I would definitely want to have her <v Speaker 6>on the team. And now I'm looking at this and thinking, man, <v Speaker 6>this would make an excellent movie. <v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna say. <v Speaker 6>I'm gonna say, Lashana Lynch know me from No Time <v Speaker 6>to Die? <v Speaker 4>Okay, can I say something? <v Speaker 2>Absolutely? <v Speaker 6>Yes? <v Speaker 4>Okay, everybody, everybody back up just a second, because Pat <v Speaker 4>just selected Mutt on a Best Indiana Jones list. Oh <v Speaker 4>why I am not. I was not a fan of <v Speaker 4>that turn in No Time to Die giving the hallowed <v Speaker 4>double oh seven number to anyone else, I was like, <v Speaker 4>what are you doing? No, that belongs to Bond? <v Speaker 2>What do you And I. <v Speaker 4>Understand why they did it in the movie stuff, But <v Speaker 4>I I uh kind of hard time swallowing that. <v Speaker 2>I wish you would bring me up a little bit. <v Speaker 1>I wish you had told me he had picked Mutt <v Speaker 1>before I agreed to moderate this episode. I'm just playing. Actually, <v Speaker 1>I revisited Crystal School late recently, and I actually don't <v Speaker 1>hate it as much as I did before. That's not <v Speaker 1>to say that I don't hate it, but it's got <v Speaker 1>some redeeming value there that I haven't noticed before. But <v Speaker 1>that's a different episode. All Right, We ready to keep going, Yes, <v Speaker 1>let's keep it. All right, we're on our final pick <v Speaker 1>for van Van. How are you gonna round out your team? <v Speaker 5>Well, Pat, did you've pretty much cleaned out the Daniel <v Speaker 5>Craig files now, right? <v Speaker 6>Yeah, kind of. It was kind of weighted towards those. <v Speaker 2>It was, it was except for the one that you <v Speaker 2>didn't right, in. <v Speaker 6>All fairness, In all fairness, I mean, I didn't have <v Speaker 6>any exclamations of awe. But like basically all of my <v Speaker 6>like ones from the earlier movies were taken Octopussy, Anya <v Speaker 6>Amasova and then you grabbed Danielle Bianchi that and that <v Speaker 6>was between her and the other one. So I did <v Speaker 6>have some earlier ones there on my list, but but <v Speaker 6>you guys got to them first. But I'm not I'm <v Speaker 6>not complaining because I just the Michelle Yo thing. I'm <v Speaker 6>still I'm gonna watch my back leaving the podcast both <v Speaker 6>probably smart. <v Speaker 5>Well, I think we're gonna pick the one we would <v Speaker 5>take from another roster and I think everybody knows which <v Speaker 5>one I'm going to take fro another roster, all right, <v Speaker 5>So if the top seven on my board, there's only <v Speaker 5>one left. But I'm not sure I want her. If <v Speaker 5>I go buy numbers, you know what I mean. If <v Speaker 5>I go by numbers, that's who's there. But I don't <v Speaker 5>I with my last pick. <v Speaker 2>I don't. <v Speaker 5>I might want to go with my heart a little bit, <v Speaker 5>you know what I'm saying. So I've got two that <v Speaker 5>are rated higher, and then I got one that's more <v Speaker 5>in my heart. I want the Bond folks to look <v Speaker 5>at my list and go, man, he cleaned up, right, <v Speaker 5>But I also. <v Speaker 2>Kind of want to be able to feel good about <v Speaker 2>it myself. Call here, Oh gosh. <v Speaker 4>You got four solids, right, I mean, you got you <v Speaker 4>got a strong roster. <v Speaker 5>I feel I feel very good about my about my <v Speaker 5>my team. But I mean, you know, I gotta I've <v Speaker 5>got I've got only about ten of them that are <v Speaker 5>ranked in the forties, and there's three left that are <v Speaker 5>in the forties here, and I gotta decide which one <v Speaker 5>of those to take. I'm you know, I'm gonna have <v Speaker 5>to just pull the trigger here, No pun intended A <v Speaker 5>Bond I think, yeah, you know what, I'm gonna go <v Speaker 5>with my heart, especially since I didn't get way l. <v Speaker 5>I'm gonna get Aki from you only lift twice. I <v Speaker 5>like that she's the other Asian fighting character. That's that's cool, <v Speaker 5>so we'll go with her. That's she was the third though, <v Speaker 5>So there's two I still have above, and I'm I <v Speaker 5>may kick myself later, but we'll see hey. <v Speaker 3>For as long as one of them is a Kissy Suzuki, <v Speaker 3>I think you're You're okay. <v Speaker 2>She was the other one. I mean, she's there. She <v Speaker 2>she and Aki are pretty close together. <v Speaker 5>But I think for me, but what you know in <v Speaker 5>the books, Kissy Suzuki has Bond's kid. Yeah, I mean yeah, <v Speaker 5>but I went with Aki just because she's got the <v Speaker 5>cool wool whites Honda or whatever that she rolls around <v Speaker 5>in and she outsmarts Bond a couple of times, tricks <v Speaker 5>him to go down in the layer of Tiger Tanaka, <v Speaker 5>and clearly she's Tiger's first choice for agent. He kind <v Speaker 5>of goes to Kissy when Aki's unfortunately killed. So I <v Speaker 5>really like Aki a lot, so I'm going to go <v Speaker 5>with Aki. <v Speaker 4>When I was a kid, her death scene was another <v Speaker 4>one that I was like, oh. <v Speaker 2>No, not her, No, I love Aki. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, good one. <v Speaker 2>All right, So Jason, you're on the clock for your <v Speaker 2>final pick. <v Speaker 4>Okay, before I make my final pick, I've got this <v Speaker 4>nugget that I want to throw out there. I come <v Speaker 4>across this and I hope I'm not stealing just thunder here. <v Speaker 4>But Tiffany Case who was played by Jill Saint John <v Speaker 4>and Diamonds Are Forever and plenty Old Tool who was <v Speaker 4>played by Lona Wood and Diamonds Are Forever. I found <v Speaker 4>this very interesting. Those two women absolutely hate each other, <v Speaker 4>like they can't be in the same room together. So <v Speaker 4>this is the interesting thing. So Lana Wood is the <v Speaker 4>younger sister to Natalie Wood. Okay, and of course she <v Speaker 4>was married to Robert Wagner and her death was this <v Speaker 4>very controversial thing. A lot of people think Robert Wagner <v Speaker 4>had something to do with it. Well, Jill Saint John <v Speaker 4>actually married Robert Wagner and they've been married for like <v Speaker 4>fifty years or whatever, and so Lana Wood still thinks <v Speaker 4>that Robert Wagner killed her sister, and Jill Saint John <v Speaker 4>is obviously married to Robert Wagner, so they can't even <v Speaker 4>they couldn't do a diamondsar Forever photo shoot ever again, <v Speaker 4>because it can't mean wow wow. <v Speaker 5>Okay, I think there's probably a lot of people that <v Speaker 5>think that Robert Wagner is married to Stephanie Powers. <v Speaker 2>But that's a whole other age. That's a good. <v Speaker 4>All right. So my number five and my number seven <v Speaker 4>are still on the board. And then I've got Olga Carolinko, <v Speaker 4>who I'm absolutely in love with. She's like my Monica <v Speaker 4>Balucci for Pat. Anytime I see Olga Carolinko, I'm like, <v Speaker 4>oh my gosh, that woman who majors. But I gotta <v Speaker 4>leave her off. I'm not. I'm gonna choose something better <v Speaker 4>with my head, I think. But the whole reason we <v Speaker 4>started this discussion is I think I told Jeff that <v Speaker 4>Electric King, played by Sophie Marceau, was a first rounder. <v Speaker 4>Ye yes, but I but I'm not gonna take her. Okay, <v Speaker 4>she would be my sixth pick. <v Speaker 6>Okay. <v Speaker 4>What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go off board. <v Speaker 4>I'm gonna give Pat a chance to kill me because <v Speaker 4>I just torched him for his pick. I am taking <v Speaker 4>a woman that I probably would guess is not on <v Speaker 4>anyone's list Miami, and I'm not taking money buy and <v Speaker 4>I'm not taking she in Easton, I'm taking Fatima Blush <v Speaker 4>played by Barbara Carrera, who was from Never Say Never Again. <v Speaker 2>Never, Never, Never Again Never. <v Speaker 4>She's actually the same character that Fiona Volpe plays in Thunderbolt. <v Speaker 4>That's right, and Bond actually kills her with the bazooka <v Speaker 4>gun right while she's making him sign a confession. She's <v Speaker 4>the greatest woman he's ever been with. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, I forgot about that. <v Speaker 6>Oh my god. <v Speaker 4>And his response is, well, there was this girl in Philadelphia, <v Speaker 4>but I just absolutely loved her. I know a lot <v Speaker 4>of people hate Never Say Never Again, but she is <v Speaker 4>such a great fem fatale and she's beautiful. I'm taking her, <v Speaker 4>Fatima Bush. <v Speaker 5>I totally forgot about Never Say Never Again. <v Speaker 2>That's that's good. <v Speaker 5>And I'm surprised you didn't go, Kim Bason, You're when <v Speaker 5>you went over to Never Say Never Again. <v Speaker 4>I was tempted. I know, interesting, Pat, I feel bad <v Speaker 4>about about land Basin. You're just meant to go. I'm sorry, <v Speaker 4>don't invite you in at the last second, and I <v Speaker 4>rip your pick. I'm sorry. <v Speaker 6>That's fine, man, I'm just looking at my picks, you <v Speaker 6>know you better watch out because they're gonna uh, you know, <v Speaker 6>they can come take care of business before you even <v Speaker 6>know what's going on. <v Speaker 4>That's true. That's true. <v Speaker 1>So next up will be Jeff for the final pick <v Speaker 1>of this draft. When he's done, we'll have everybody go <v Speaker 1>through and kind of announce the raw her real quick <v Speaker 1>to remind everybody of who they ended up with, and <v Speaker 1>then we're going to do a round of where everyone <v Speaker 1>gets to pick from someone else's roster. If you could <v Speaker 1>take one Bond girl from somebody else that they drafted, <v Speaker 1>who would you take so that you could have her <v Speaker 1>on your team? <v Speaker 2>All right? So Jeff take away for us your final <v Speaker 2>pick in the draft. <v Speaker 3>Very honored to have the final pick, and I'm loving <v Speaker 3>the fact that my eighth overall is still on the board. Look, <v Speaker 3>Jason Van, you guys were talking and Never Say Never Again, <v Speaker 3>and you know, I know it's divisive with the Bond <v Speaker 3>fans because of Thunderball, but I'm happy to say that <v Speaker 3>my final pick will be Domino Patachi aka Kim Bessinger <v Speaker 3>in Never Say Never Again. <v Speaker 4>Wow, right there, you can see it on the list. <v Speaker 3>I was waiting and I Honestly, I thought, I thought, <v Speaker 3>this will be my this will be my my curve <v Speaker 3>ball because non Cannon Bond. You know, depending on who <v Speaker 3>you talk to, and you know, it's is it Thunderball, <v Speaker 3>is it not Thunderball. There's such a whole history with <v Speaker 3>these two movies, so I but it's one of my <v Speaker 3>one of the things, one of the ones I liked <v Speaker 3>a lot when I was growing up. I still remember <v Speaker 3>the cool thing he did with his watch with a laser, <v Speaker 3>you know, when they're I think they're somewhere in Afghanistan <v Speaker 3>or something like that or create the interesting fact here, <v Speaker 3>this is nineteen eighty three Kim Basinger. They had went <v Speaker 3>after her several times to play a Bond girl. She <v Speaker 3>turned down. She had turned it down, but she turned <v Speaker 3>it up twice. I know Moonbreaker was one of the <v Speaker 3>ones she turned down. She wanted to be taken as <v Speaker 3>a serious actress, so at this point in her career <v Speaker 3>it wasn't happening. She finally says, you know what, I'll <v Speaker 3>do it and rest is history because I you know, <v Speaker 3>we talk, you know in van you know you probably <v Speaker 3>have talked about this maybe on your podcast about the <v Speaker 3>what they call the Bond Girl Curse. I would say <v Speaker 3>it worked out for her for sure. Final Pig, Domino, <v Speaker 3>the lovely Kim Basinger, good one, right, good one. <v Speaker 2>All right, guys, how do you all fill about your teams? <v Speaker 4>I love my roster. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, So just. <v Speaker 1>To recap and remind everybody, let's list. Let's announce the rosters. <v Speaker 1>Letybody know exactly who you ended up with, and we'll <v Speaker 1>go in the original draft order. So, Jason, who do <v Speaker 1>you got? <v Speaker 6>So? <v Speaker 4>I got vesper lynd Zania on a top Agent, Triple X, <v Speaker 4>Octapussy and Fatima Blush excellent, and. <v Speaker 3>Jeff quite a quite a round up round up here. <v Speaker 3>I've got Pussy Galore, Holly Goodhead, Honey Ryder, Pam Bouvier, <v Speaker 3>and Domino Patacci that's strong. <v Speaker 2>Strong, and then Pat with the Uh with the strike team. <v Speaker 2>Who do you have there? <v Speaker 6>I've got Luccia Sciara, way Linn, Paloma, Fiona Volpe and <v Speaker 6>know Me. <v Speaker 3>Tough job, good job, very nice work, Pat and Van. <v Speaker 5>I've got Solitaire, Melina Haveloc, Tracy Bond, Tatiana Romanova and Aki. <v Speaker 1>All right, so let's go ahead and get into the <v Speaker 1>round of of stealing a pick from somebody else's roster <v Speaker 1>if you could do that, Jeff from I'll let you <v Speaker 1>go first that you're at the top of the screen <v Speaker 1>here for me, what's. <v Speaker 2>What's the name that was picked today that you wish <v Speaker 2>you could have drafted? <v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I would have went with vesper Lynde right out <v Speaker 3>the gate if I had the shot. <v Speaker 2>All right. <v Speaker 6>Yeah, that scene in the train car when her and <v Speaker 6>Bond go back and forth like figuring each other out. Man, <v Speaker 6>that is incredible, Like just you're a and she just <v Speaker 6>he goes right down the list and then he's and <v Speaker 6>then she says, okay, well let me go, you know, <v Speaker 6>and she just nails all the things. I mean, that's <v Speaker 6>just great, awesome, awesome acting scene, but then awesome like <v Speaker 6>character development for who she. <v Speaker 3>Was, you know, talking character development and matching wits and <v Speaker 3>all that with Bond. Casino Royal also has one of <v Speaker 3>my favorite scenes in the Bond movies, and probably one <v Speaker 3>of my more favorite scenes in Casina Royal is after <v Speaker 3>he dispatches a couple guys finds her in the shower, <v Speaker 3>clearly traumatized. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, that that tender moment. <v Speaker 3>I mean, it was probably the last time you saw <v Speaker 3>Bond care so deeply about a woman was probably on <v Speaker 3>her Majesty's secret service. I love that that soft, tender <v Speaker 3>moment that they share, and that's where you're like, you <v Speaker 3>know what, She's not gonna be just another notch on <v Speaker 3>the bedpost. She's he's into her, you know. <v Speaker 6>So? <v Speaker 2>Yeah, love Vesper, Yeah, Austome Jason, what pick would you steal? <v Speaker 4>Okay, the highest girl on my list that is not <v Speaker 4>on my roster is Solitaire from Live and Let Die, <v Speaker 4>a young beautiful Jane Seymour, and she know she's impacting <v Speaker 4>the story and then of course the whole thing of <v Speaker 4>her losing her powers to bond because he steals her <v Speaker 4>purity whatever. Solitaire is just a personal favorite of mine <v Speaker 4>and Jane zymore, how can you? <v Speaker 2>How can you lose so excellent? Van? I think we <v Speaker 2>all know what you're gonna say. <v Speaker 5>But uh well, my number one on the board was <v Speaker 5>Weiland at forty six points. <v Speaker 2>By the way, I tap point. <v Speaker 5>My number two was Solitaire at forty five, but my <v Speaker 5>number three was Vesper at four forty four. But using <v Speaker 5>my value theory of drafting, I probably would have picked <v Speaker 5>Vesper with the first pick. <v Speaker 2>I ended up with my second choice. <v Speaker 5>So because both one and three were gone, I believe <v Speaker 5>by the time it was my choice, but I got <v Speaker 5>number two, so I'm happy with that. But I had <v Speaker 5>to take Witlan because I absolutely love Michelle Yo. I <v Speaker 5>love Waitlan. She does such cool stuff in that movie. <v Speaker 5>She's way cooler than Bond. And that's my favorite Bond too, Brison, <v Speaker 5>and yet she's out she out cools my favorite Bond. <v Speaker 5>So yeah, awesome and pat, which when would you pick? <v Speaker 6>I would go from the spy who loved me. I <v Speaker 6>would go with Major Anya Amasolo. We already talked about, <v Speaker 6>you know how awesome the character was and just such <v Speaker 6>a great foil for Bond and on a personal mission <v Speaker 6>as well as a professional mission. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, awesome, excellent. <v Speaker 1>All right, well, gentlemen, that's gonna do it for our <v Speaker 1>Bond Girl draft. Thank you very much for getting together <v Speaker 1>for this. It was tons of fun for me. I <v Speaker 1>feel like we had a bit of an Avengers All <v Speaker 1>Star matchup here with all my favorite podcast to getting <v Speaker 1>together on one spot, And thank you very much. <v Speaker 2>For allowing me the honor of being able to moderate it. <v Speaker 1>We are publishing this episode on April thirteenth, and that <v Speaker 1>is significant because it is actually the seventieth anniversary of <v Speaker 1>the original James Bond novel, Casino Royal, and so to <v Speaker 1>kind of mark that event, we decided to get these <v Speaker 1>guys together and have a little James Bond discussion. I <v Speaker 1>hope everybody enjoyed it as much as I did. Now <v Speaker 1>we've drafted these teams, but who won, well, that is <v Speaker 1>up to you. Be able to lookout for all these <v Speaker 1>guys their social media accounts and you will see an <v Speaker 1>opportunity to kind of review the rosters and then vote <v Speaker 1>on who you think was the winner. <v Speaker 2>And if you just. <v Speaker 1>Follow follow any of these guys on social media, you'll <v Speaker 1>see how it all turns out. <v Speaker 4>Thank you guys for being here. I had tons of fun. <v Speaker 4>We got to do this again sometime and talk about <v Speaker 4>other things. So appreciate you guys being willing to do this. <v Speaker 4>On Saturday afternoon, James Bond will return, Ames Von will return. <v Speaker 2>All right, Thank you
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