Monster Hunter Wilds Modder Finds Possible Reason For Bad Framerates

<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, welcome to Game Es Mornings with Me Jeff Grub,
<v Speaker 1>your host from GiantBomb dot com. Thank you for tuning in.
<v Speaker 1>In this episode, we're gonna be talking about secret new
<v Speaker 1>additions to Animal Crossing as part of that update, and
<v Speaker 1>also how some motys might have uncovered a weird reason
<v Speaker 1>why Monster Hunter Wilde's run so poorly on PC. It's
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a good one because we have Jason Fonelli
<v Speaker 1>on the show. Jason, how are you doing?
<v Speaker 2>I am doing fine. Love to hear about the ingenuity
<v Speaker 2>of the PC moding community. I'm looking forward to talking
<v Speaker 2>about that later. Staring down the barrel of thirty nine
<v Speaker 2>years old eight days from now, woo turning the next Friday,
<v Speaker 2>the twenty third. Always easy to remember my birthday because
<v Speaker 2>remember back in the instant Messenger days, you'd make your
<v Speaker 2>screen name and then the numbers at the end would
<v Speaker 2>be your birthday. I couldn't do that. My birthday's one, two, three,
<v Speaker 2>Ah yeah, yeah, so I had to. I had to
<v Speaker 2>mix it up. Always easy to remember for people when
<v Speaker 2>I tell that story. But yeah, I'm ready to ready
<v Speaker 2>to talk about news and things that may or may
<v Speaker 2>not have my dander up, which are not the roadblock's
<v Speaker 2>age verification. As the chat has mentioned, that's a whole
<v Speaker 2>other can of worms, right.
<v Speaker 1>That sounds like an insane mess over there. I honestly,
<v Speaker 1>we we're not even it's not even in the Rundown.
<v Speaker 1>But I did, I did see a trailer for uh,
<v Speaker 1>for this Fatal Fury. Uh. I don't I don't think
<v Speaker 1>humans made a lot of that stuff. I gotta say,
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think humans made anything except the game clips,
<v Speaker 2>to be honest. And then hus the voice over so
<v Speaker 2>that trailer drops, right, and then a couple of boys
<v Speaker 2>and I in the game spot slack chat started parsing
<v Speaker 2>the different things that are going on in that trailer
<v Speaker 2>that make us sad. And it's not just the generative a,
<v Speaker 2>it's not just the blatant use of bullshit tools. It's
<v Speaker 2>the little things. Nightmare Geese should be very cool that
<v Speaker 2>a previously dead character in the Fatal Fury for it's
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't.
<v Speaker 1>Have a foot, Yeah, he should have one of those,
<v Speaker 1>so two of them, even.
<v Speaker 2>You should have two of them. And what makes it
<v Speaker 2>even worse is if you know the story of if
<v Speaker 2>you want to get into the lore of fatal fury. Right,
<v Speaker 2>Geese Howard is the most powerful weeb in fighting games. Right,
<v Speaker 2>some dude from Southern America who's so into Japanese culture.
<v Speaker 2>He built his own Japanese tower in South Town and
<v Speaker 2>looms over the city in this rooftop dojo that he
<v Speaker 2>built himself.
<v Speaker 1>Pretty cool.
<v Speaker 2>If he were a real person and saw this ship
<v Speaker 2>and what they what they did to him, he'd throw
<v Speaker 2>himself off the building.
<v Speaker 1>Like he did it, foot ab off the try to
<v Speaker 1>throw it at him.
<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right. This sucks. This sucks so much.
<v Speaker 2>And I understand. I'm sure people who may have seen
<v Speaker 2>me going off on Blue Sky. Yes, in the grand
<v Speaker 2>scheme of the world, this is a drop in the bucket.
<v Speaker 2>It's not important. It's a minor, minor thing, and I
<v Speaker 2>completely understand that. But the other thing gives me so
<v Speaker 2>much anxiety that I just can't talk about it. And
<v Speaker 2>I think you get enough of that on social media
<v Speaker 2>that you don't need me adding to it. So I'll
<v Speaker 2>be more than happy to channel that anxiety at this ship,
<v Speaker 2>where I have no problem yelling at these motherfuckers. Then
<v Speaker 2>that and if that makes me a coward, fine, I'll
<v Speaker 2>be a coward to you. Yeah, we'll be.
<v Speaker 1>Cowards on the showy in the whole beginning of the
<v Speaker 1>true they like hide the feet even like there was
<v Speaker 1>something wrong with their feet technology And.
<v Speaker 2>Why does Blue Mary have a helmet on? And that's
<v Speaker 2>another thing. That's another thing too, if you really want
<v Speaker 2>to get into Fatal Fury specifics. Here the motorcycle that
<v Speaker 2>she's on does not match the motorcycle she has had
<v Speaker 2>canonically throughout the series. It's always been more of like
<v Speaker 2>a Harley Davidson Big Big. I put a picture of
<v Speaker 2>it on Blue Sky two. In comparison, here, she just
<v Speaker 2>looks like she looks like she belongs in cyberpunk, and
<v Speaker 2>she's not cyberpunk. She's like a trucker. What are you
<v Speaker 2>doing here?
<v Speaker 1>The people? You know, It goes back to like, well,
<v Speaker 1>if they don't care, why the hell should we? I mean, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I don't get it, Like, why why would they expect
<v Speaker 1>us to care about this stuff to spend more money
<v Speaker 1>on their on their game if.
<v Speaker 2>Theyly do not care, And and the and the and
<v Speaker 2>one of the worst things is they teased a character
<v Speaker 2>because it's the only revealed four characters. There are six, right,
<v Speaker 2>there are two question marks that have already been teased.
<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing one of them is a very cool crossover
<v Speaker 2>if you're not familiar, if you haven't seen it. They
<v Speaker 2>basically all but announced that can Shiro from Fist of
<v Speaker 2>the North Star is one.
<v Speaker 1>Right, yes, right, Okay, that's awesome.
<v Speaker 2>That's a great idea. I was very much looking forward
<v Speaker 2>to using him against my training dummy Ronaldo and just
<v Speaker 2>beating the shit out of Ronaldo for a little while
<v Speaker 2>with Conciro. That I very much look forward to that.
<v Speaker 2>But now if they don't care enough, like you said,
<v Speaker 2>to put effort into their trailers, and their trailers would
<v Speaker 2>be great. Go back and watch the Ken trailer hands
<v Speaker 2>drawing anime. It was fantastic. And now we get this shit.
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand. I don't I don't get it.
<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, it's it's it's just frustrating because it's like
<v Speaker 1>you know, I I you know, soul music, this whole
<v Speaker 1>idea of soul music. I would I would say that
<v Speaker 1>video games soul music is fighting games, like you gotta
<v Speaker 1>have soul if you're making a fighting game, and this
<v Speaker 1>is the husk of that. It's the most soulless shit,
<v Speaker 1>and uh, why would the people who make, like who
<v Speaker 1>have spent their life playing fighting games want to like
<v Speaker 1>engage with this in any way. Oh my god, there's
<v Speaker 1>something falling apart in the back of my PC. Oh yeah,
<v Speaker 1>Like I just saw chords begin to vibrate in a
<v Speaker 1>really scary way. All right, I think we're good. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>Why would people spend their time putting their life into
<v Speaker 1>this the way that they do with fighting games. If
<v Speaker 1>this is the way the company that owns it is
<v Speaker 1>going to treat it, it's.
<v Speaker 2>Or the Kingdom, I guess let's say, huh yeah, be
<v Speaker 2>real here, we know where this directive is coming from.
<v Speaker 2>It's just it's very disheartening. It is the disheartening icing
<v Speaker 2>on the disheartening cake that has been most of this
<v Speaker 2>calendar year so far. And you know, what can we
<v Speaker 2>do besides yell about it for a little while. So
<v Speaker 2>thank you for letting me be stress.
<v Speaker 1>So we need you on the show, come in here
<v Speaker 1>and yell yell about it. Well, well, I'm sure the
<v Speaker 1>roebox stuff will continue next time. We can yell about
<v Speaker 1>that again. Hey, real quick, Happy birthday Emmy for birthday today,
<v Speaker 1>you know, and she's got that Emmy lux Street going
<v Speaker 1>where we have basically a blizzard here today and she
<v Speaker 1>got school off, so she's home from school. So good. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's what she wanted to say. I wish I didn't
<v Speaker 1>have school my birthday. Well there you, kiddo, and I
<v Speaker 1>did what I could. No more presence, just home from school.
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<v Speaker 1>with Animal Crossing New Horizons adds a new jump, strafing
<v Speaker 1>and walking backwards. This is from Haley Williams at GameSpot.
<v Speaker 1>Animal Crossing New Horizons Free three point zero update has
<v Speaker 1>dropped earlier than expected, bringing new features including the Slumber
<v Speaker 1>Islands Resort hotel and the return of Resetti. One feature
<v Speaker 1>players didn't see coming is the brand new movement system,
<v Speaker 1>which allows players to move precisely one square at a time,
<v Speaker 1>allowing strafing and even a cute little hop. The new
<v Speaker 1>style of movement movement has been added to aid in
<v Speaker 1>construction and dec and decorating. The options are mentioned as
<v Speaker 1>part of a tutorial in the Island designer app, though
<v Speaker 1>some players manage to discover the new feature on their own.
<v Speaker 1>One player posted to Reddit after finding that pressing l
<v Speaker 1>now makes your character jump, while others discovered that this
<v Speaker 1>was the only part of the new movement functionality, which
<v Speaker 1>allows precise movement one square at a time by pressing
<v Speaker 1>in holding now. Yeah. Okay, yeah, I just kind of
<v Speaker 1>threw this in there. It's like, oh, okay, I somehow, for
<v Speaker 1>some reason, this excites me. I want to get back
<v Speaker 1>in there and see how I can move my little
<v Speaker 1>character in Animal Crossing. I bet this is also the
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing where it's like they are working their
<v Speaker 1>way up to the next Animal Crossing game, and maybe
<v Speaker 1>testing out some improvements and changes here could actually help
<v Speaker 1>them in figuring out exactly what that should be. I
<v Speaker 1>bet they're a long way along the line of figuring
<v Speaker 1>that out, but they'll be happy to test that out
<v Speaker 1>here with the public and see how it works. Animal
<v Speaker 1>Crossey just feels like it's going to probably have a
<v Speaker 1>small little moment here again. You know, it's not going
<v Speaker 1>to ever be able to replicate what happened in twenty twenty.
<v Speaker 1>That was serendipity, That was the right game in the
<v Speaker 1>right time. But I do think that this game popping
<v Speaker 1>up every five years for the rest of our lives
<v Speaker 1>is fantastic. I'm still a little disappointed that we're getting
<v Speaker 1>this update instead of a new game, but I'll probably
<v Speaker 1>get over that because I'm gonna boot this thing up
<v Speaker 1>tonight and play some of it, and I'm looking forward
<v Speaker 1>to trying it out. How about you.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm glad that these movements are in the
<v Speaker 2>three point zero update so that everybody can use them,
<v Speaker 2>it's not just.
<v Speaker 1>The free the free update correct.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that I think is pretty cool, and I also
<v Speaker 2>like I'm with you on the using this as a
<v Speaker 2>testing ground for things that they may do in a
<v Speaker 2>future game. I agree with you that it would be
<v Speaker 2>better that if we just get to bring a new
<v Speaker 2>animal crossing game. But if this is a way to
<v Speaker 2>have another moment and include everyone in that moment, not
<v Speaker 2>just the people getting the switch to edition, I think
<v Speaker 2>that benefits everybody. It's a win win all around. I
<v Speaker 2>do like this new capability of movement it makes because
<v Speaker 2>it puts me one step closer. It's recreating the Jamiroquai
<v Speaker 2>virtual insanity.
<v Speaker 1>A whole time.
<v Speaker 2>Of course, why we play the game.
<v Speaker 1>After a why we play the game, but no we.
<v Speaker 2>I haven't gotten this for the kids yet on their switches.
<v Speaker 2>It's just on mind, so I'll boot it up. I'm
<v Speaker 2>going to get the switch to addition too. I don't
<v Speaker 2>know about tonight, but maybe this weekend caught me off guard.
<v Speaker 2>I thought I had more time, right, I thought I had.
<v Speaker 2>I thought I had the weekend, so I planned for
<v Speaker 2>the weekend. Yeah, this is cool this. I loved how
<v Speaker 2>excited everyone was too, Like Rev. Valentine specifically was her
<v Speaker 2>blue Sky that was I'd me too, and that was
<v Speaker 2>the right person to hear it from. I think it
<v Speaker 2>was the one person who would appreciate it the most.
<v Speaker 2>She can get to the absolutely understand this is cool.
<v Speaker 2>And you know what though, I think, among other things
<v Speaker 2>this could have been, especially with Nintendo nowadays, just one
<v Speaker 2>of those like get an update out there. So people
<v Speaker 2>were talking more about animal crossing again and being able
<v Speaker 2>to find something that they didn't mention, something small ish
<v Speaker 2>like movement.
<v Speaker 1>That's cool.
<v Speaker 2>It's something they didn't have to do.
<v Speaker 1>Right, and it's like and it also is the kind
<v Speaker 1>of thing where oh, players can do something with this
<v Speaker 1>beyond what the intended purposes. So it's intended to make
<v Speaker 1>it easier to decorate and design your island. Sure, but
<v Speaker 1>Animal Crossing is a multiplayer, often a multiplayer expressive game,
<v Speaker 1>and you already hear people talk about like, ooh, I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>when I'm excited, I could do this little hot now.
<v Speaker 1>And when it's when someone's being weird or I want
<v Speaker 1>to get away from I can just walk backward. It's
<v Speaker 1>go and get out of the screen. It's like, oh yeah,
<v Speaker 1>new ways to express yourselves. And it's it's small and subtle,
<v Speaker 1>the way Animal Crossing always has been. But it's like, okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>just a few more tools and these players are gonna
<v Speaker 1>have a lot to do with this, so yeah, time
<v Speaker 1>to go moon walking through your villages everything.
<v Speaker 2>Let's let's add a feature where you can throw items
<v Speaker 2>from one player to another, and then we'll have twenty
<v Speaker 2>two people in one island and we'll make a giant
<v Speaker 2>football field and we'll create Madden Animal Crossing. I love that.
<v Speaker 2>Let's do it.
<v Speaker 1>That's it's beautiful. Uh yeah, it's this is so I'll
<v Speaker 1>just kind of realizing it's like they're gonna have Animal
<v Speaker 1>Crossing update. They're gonna have Tomadaci Life Here Pretty Soon
<v Speaker 1>and Rhythm Heaven. They're kind of I'm doing a lot
<v Speaker 1>of their like, oh, those other games this year, so
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of interesting. I wonder how that's gonna work
<v Speaker 1>out for them. I hope they kind of also have
<v Speaker 1>some other weird stuff in the future. But I'll take
<v Speaker 1>everything I can get right now as well. All right,
<v Speaker 1>let's this is this is a weird one. Let's let's
<v Speaker 1>just kind of cap this camp. This better not be true.
<v Speaker 1>Monster Hunter Wild's Modern uncovers bizarre reason why PC performance
<v Speaker 1>might be so bad. This is from Lewis Parker at Kotaku.
<v Speaker 1>Monster Hunter Wilde's performer. Honestly, chat if you don't know
<v Speaker 1>this story, I want you to throw your guesses in
<v Speaker 1>chat for what you think is the reason that the
<v Speaker 1>game runs in a poor manner on PC. Performance of
<v Speaker 1>PC has been notoriously bad going back to launch, and
<v Speaker 1>nobody is quite sure why. One new theory suggests part
<v Speaker 1>of the problem could be related to all of the
<v Speaker 1>game's DLC add ons and how it checks for them.
<v Speaker 1>It sounds wild, but video footage has made it one
<v Speaker 1>of the most convincing possibilities yet. Yesterday, user on reddit
<v Speaker 1>d Talmrand published a yeah, thank you, I should just
<v Speaker 1>steeze my way through most names published a rather lengthy
<v Speaker 1>post on the monster hunter subreddit titled monster Hunter Wild's
<v Speaker 1>bad performance mystery solved question mark. As they explained, they
<v Speaker 1>discovered the issue by mere chance after playing Monster Hunter
<v Speaker 1>wilds through a friend's Steam account. They immediately noticed that,
<v Speaker 1>even though they were using the same machine, Monster Hunter
<v Speaker 1>Wild's FPS was dramatically better when playing the game through
<v Speaker 1>their friends Steam account rather than on their own. After
<v Speaker 1>some testing, the user came to the bizarre conclusion the
<v Speaker 1>only difference was that their friend had bought all of
<v Speaker 1>Monster Hunter Wild's downloadable content on Steam. As they explained,
<v Speaker 1>on the account with no DLC, I got heavy and
<v Speaker 1>stable FPS drops down to like twenty and twenty five
<v Speaker 1>in the hubs, while on the account with all the
<v Speaker 1>DLC bought, it was eighty plus frames per second. So
<v Speaker 1>obviously this claim was hard to believe. But they built
<v Speaker 1>a tool I guess, to bypass the checks for DLC
<v Speaker 1>and it fixed it. So what the hell is this? Look?
<v Speaker 1>People already don't like DLC and micro transactions. Uh, you
<v Speaker 1>gotta fix this gap, com, you gotta you gotta do
<v Speaker 1>something here. This is awful. That's sixty frames because people,
<v Speaker 1>because you're checking for DLC and it's not there and
<v Speaker 1>you're freaking out. That can't be how this works.
<v Speaker 2>You only get a complete frame rate if the game
<v Speaker 2>is feature complete. Is that is that? The is? This?
<v Speaker 2>Is this like on disc DLC in reverse? If it's
<v Speaker 2>not there, it runs worse?
<v Speaker 1>Like what? What's what?
<v Speaker 2>That would explain why they put the DLC on disc
<v Speaker 2>all those years ago, if the game was gonna be
<v Speaker 2>choppy without it on there?
<v Speaker 1>Right? Yep, this is so weird? What a weird like?
<v Speaker 1>It could have been?
<v Speaker 2>Anything they think? First of all, like I said at
<v Speaker 2>the top of the show, the serendipity of the PC
<v Speaker 2>of minding community cannot be understated here. This is fantastic.
<v Speaker 2>But if this is true, or if there is any
<v Speaker 2>benefit to this at all, And I am not a
<v Speaker 2>PC gamer, so this is not my area of expertise,
<v Speaker 2>but I know weird bullshit when I see it, and
<v Speaker 2>this is some weird bullshit. I am genuinely curious if
<v Speaker 2>Capcom will even acknowledge such a thing rather than well,
<v Speaker 2>like would you?
<v Speaker 1>So that's the thing. So they're not yet because this
<v Speaker 1>is a Reddit post. This is random chuckle fucks, you know, talmrand.
<v Speaker 1>But that's that's the stage we're in. We like, apparently
<v Speaker 1>Digital Foundry is reaching out to these people and they're
<v Speaker 1>going to do some testing, and it's like, once that happens, well,
<v Speaker 1>first of all, we'll be able to well, they'll be
<v Speaker 1>able to do the exact testing. Their rigorous. They they
<v Speaker 1>know how to control for various other factors. There could
<v Speaker 1>still be various other factors that these people who just
<v Speaker 1>had this idea, had this hunch, did not control for,
<v Speaker 1>and maybe that changed things. So Digital Foundery will be
<v Speaker 1>able to control for all that. And when they come
<v Speaker 1>out the other side, if they say, okay, now it
<v Speaker 1>seemed like that was the problem, it's actually something else
<v Speaker 1>which is entirely possible, or they say, yeah, we were
<v Speaker 1>able to replicate this and it's the DLC. Capcom will
<v Speaker 1>have to say something once Digital Foundry is able to
<v Speaker 1>confirm it one way or the other.
<v Speaker 2>So further down in the story, there's a couple of
<v Speaker 2>interesting points here. The first one is this user to
<v Speaker 2>America or whatever's name is provided a video of themselves
<v Speaker 2>using a custom mod they created that bypasses the DLC
<v Speaker 2>checks right and that and that's what's made this going viral,
<v Speaker 2>So they kind of already have done that work and
<v Speaker 2>then this Tamarak Florida also says that this is not
<v Speaker 2>the first time they've done this. In Dragon's Dogma two
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty four, they contacted Capcom with an FPS fix,
<v Speaker 2>and they claim that that fix was then incorporated into
<v Speaker 2>the next patch. Could this just be someone on the
<v Speaker 2>inside acting like ready, like this is what's happened. This
<v Speaker 2>is to help us, please, I want to get some
<v Speaker 2>attention to this. This is a wild, wild story. I'm
<v Speaker 2>not saying anything yet though so far. Yeah. No, And
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that they even will. I mean, they
<v Speaker 2>just may put it in a patch and then if
<v Speaker 2>if it's patch, then will know that that that'll be
<v Speaker 2>them saying something if it ends up getting patched. But ultimately,
<v Speaker 2>I love when when motyrs and and gamers find weird
<v Speaker 2>stuff like this, like the Red de Redemption two story
<v Speaker 2>with the spiders that is fascinating me right now, the
<v Speaker 2>whole like mystery in there, and then stuff like this,
<v Speaker 2>or they dig in. It's kind of like data mining,
<v Speaker 2>but you're not data mining for like updates. You're data
<v Speaker 2>mining for why is this game broken? And then this
<v Speaker 2>shit happens. I love it so much.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, me too. I hope that this has a happy
<v Speaker 1>ending and they're able to like get this game into
<v Speaker 1>a state on PC where everyone's like, Okay, this is
<v Speaker 1>much better and I hope Capcom learns and never If
<v Speaker 1>this is the case, again not confirmed. If this is
<v Speaker 1>the case, that's the DLC causing the problem. Fix that
<v Speaker 1>that can never be the problem. Again, that's insane, especially
<v Speaker 1>we're a year out from this game coming out. Come on.
<v Speaker 1>I kind of hope it's just something else, but also
<v Speaker 1>it's this. It's an easy fix, right, and then the
<v Speaker 1>game just runs better. And that's the best case scenario.
<v Speaker 1>Is the game just the game that many millions of
<v Speaker 1>people have already purchased. Your game just runs better. That
<v Speaker 1>is actually the most ideal scenario. Yes, all right, Prince
<v Speaker 1>of Persia Santa speaking of data mining, Prince of Persia
<v Speaker 1>stands of time. Remake could be shadow dropped very soon.
<v Speaker 1>This is from my Nintendo News. So we've been talking
<v Speaker 1>about a recently. This is popping up again. It was
<v Speaker 1>rated by the ESRB. I believe this is the game
<v Speaker 1>that was rated by the ESRB, so could come anytime
<v Speaker 1>in the next six to ten weeks, could be longer,
<v Speaker 1>could be less. But yeah, usually that's about how long
<v Speaker 1>it takes. Well. My Nintendo News has this story the
<v Speaker 1>long awaited remake of Prince of Persia Stands of Time
<v Speaker 1>could be shadow dropped very soon by Ubisoft. The news
<v Speaker 1>was discovered via the newly deployed files in the staging website,
<v Speaker 1>with one of the files named game dash release dash
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow dot PNG. Yeah, well, doesn't this means the game
<v Speaker 1>could be shadow dropped and released on Friday. We will
<v Speaker 1>just have to wait and see what happens, but it
<v Speaker 1>would be a nice surprise if it does happen. You
<v Speaker 1>know that that could be the name of the file,
<v Speaker 1>and the file could be for a different date. So
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it necessarily is Tomorrow Friday that
<v Speaker 1>this is happening. Sure, but it does feel like this
<v Speaker 1>game is imminent and it is going to appear any
<v Speaker 1>second now. And I guess the question would just be like,
<v Speaker 1>do they drop it on their own, like with a
<v Speaker 1>post on social media and a YouTube video? Do they
<v Speaker 1>wait for one of these showcases that should be coming
<v Speaker 1>up anytime in the next month or two. I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>What do you think seems like the kind of thing
<v Speaker 2>that would be inserted into a Xbox Developer Direct?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, wouldn't that? That wouldn't shock mean that that's
<v Speaker 1>still a week away.
<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm trying to think if other developer directs had
<v Speaker 2>third party stuff in it. I know they're heavily first party.
<v Speaker 1>Well they have, so they have that game partner, oh right,
<v Speaker 1>And I think that game is on PlayStation as well,
<v Speaker 1>so it's not like a third party exclusive or anything.
<v Speaker 1>It's not. I don't think Xbox is publishing as that
<v Speaker 1>is what I'm getting at. So I think that's a
<v Speaker 1>third party game.
<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, sure, So this could the game release tomorrow,
<v Speaker 2>could be Friday, the twenty third, right, and that's just
<v Speaker 2>goes it's called tomorrow because the graphic says tomorrow, like you,
<v Speaker 2>like you mentioned earlier. Yeah, it definitely seems like this
<v Speaker 2>game is knocking on the door, and it seems like
<v Speaker 2>it's been knocking on the door for a very very
<v Speaker 2>long time. And now that we're getting into the early
<v Speaker 2>part of the year's showcases, be it Xbox next week
<v Speaker 2>whenever State of Play decide whenever you decide to announce
<v Speaker 2>the state of play. That seems to be your job
<v Speaker 2>these days, or the Nintendo Direct. It does seem like
<v Speaker 2>a good thing. That would be a Nintendo Direct too,
<v Speaker 2>right like that, it seems like a good bitch to
<v Speaker 2>title to come out the day after a Direct. So yeah,
<v Speaker 2>we'll see. But yeah, if this is not out by
<v Speaker 2>let's say, March first, there's a problem.
<v Speaker 1>Yep. I really like Prince Persia stands a time. I'll
<v Speaker 1>replay this. Ubisoftis weird company in a bad way in
<v Speaker 1>a lot of ways, but I like Prince Persia's sands
<v Speaker 1>the time, So I'll check this out. People are pointing
<v Speaker 1>at this out and I yeah, I remember this now.
<v Speaker 1>Back in December when we were kind of like discussing
<v Speaker 1>the possibility of this game showing up at like the
<v Speaker 1>Game Awards and shadow dropping there. I think there was
<v Speaker 1>a story from Insider Gaming that's like, oh, the release
<v Speaker 1>date is January sixteenth, Well that is tomorrow, that is,
<v Speaker 1>so we'll see. Well, no, we'll just know because it
<v Speaker 1>will have to happen today. If this image that they
<v Speaker 1>have in here, this p ANDNG is useful off the
<v Speaker 1>trouble today and then say that it's coming out tomorrow.
<v Speaker 2>I will say you be self likes to announce their
<v Speaker 2>stuff at noon eastern nine am Pacific time, So this
<v Speaker 2>may happen while you and I are looking at each other.
<v Speaker 2>We'll see.
<v Speaker 1>All right, Let's let's see what happens. Everybody, all right,
<v Speaker 1>continuing on here, And by continuing on, I mean let's
<v Speaker 1>take a quick break. We have more headlines to come.
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<v Speaker 1>we got we have more footage, So just hanging in there.
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be back and better than ever.
<v Speaker 2>All right. Can I do a quick update to the
<v Speaker 2>SMK story at the top of the hour, Coming in
<v Speaker 2>from a fellow on blue Sky named Spicy Sauce. I
<v Speaker 2>was an SMK moderator for six years, an official City
<v Speaker 2>of the Wolves discord for a year. This trailer made
<v Speaker 2>me step down. I don't slash. I can't promote a
<v Speaker 2>product that I don't support. Thanks all those years, friends,
<v Speaker 2>it was fun. And then they posted a screenshot of
<v Speaker 2>their discord message. Okay, I'm sorry, but I'm stepping down
<v Speaker 2>after this trailer. I'm thankful for what you guys did
<v Speaker 2>for us and all, but this is too much for
<v Speaker 2>me to deal with. This is against what I stand for.
<v Speaker 2>Of this done by agency or dev team. But if
<v Speaker 2>marketing side of the company wants to go this route,
<v Speaker 2>this is the station I want out. Take care of yourselves.
<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed my nine months with all of you. Godspeed,
<v Speaker 2>Spicy Sauce.
<v Speaker 1>That's well, that's It's just we're gonna be dealing with
<v Speaker 1>this sort of thing over and over again for the
<v Speaker 1>next couple of years. I think of companies just trying
<v Speaker 1>to see what they can get away with, and then
<v Speaker 1>decent people who do a lot of work having to
<v Speaker 1>stand up and be like this, this ain't me. I'm out.
<v Speaker 1>All right, Let's let's hit this a quick one that
<v Speaker 1>is popping off in chat that I didn't have time
<v Speaker 1>to add, Yakuza Kawami three and Dark Ties Details La
<v Speaker 1>La love Lah blah blah blah. Basically there there was
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of previews that went up for Yakuza Kwami three,
<v Speaker 1>which is going to be coming out here pretty soon.
<v Speaker 1>There's a bunch of new like mini games and and
<v Speaker 1>and of distractions in the game. I think they're also
<v Speaker 1>putting a bunch of new, old new, bunch of old
<v Speaker 1>Sega games in here that weren't originally in Kawami three.
<v Speaker 1>And people are saying game gear, and I'm looking for that.
<v Speaker 1>Let me see control f game gear, all right, here
<v Speaker 1>we go. Yakuza Kwami three brings back multiple fan favorite
<v Speaker 1>mini games from Bowling to Print Club for their first
<v Speaker 1>time in serious history Sega's classic handheld console, the Game
<v Speaker 1>Gear is playable in game, with multiple titles available, including
<v Speaker 1>the game Gear version of pac Man, Mappy and Galaga
<v Speaker 1>Galaghi Galaghi ninety one in cooperation with banday Namco Entertainment.
<v Speaker 1>At the Arcade, you can also cut loose with a
<v Speaker 1>treasure trove of machines, including UFO Catchers. As always emergency
<v Speaker 1>Call Ambulance and slash out. That's funny. I don't want
<v Speaker 1>to do emergency Call Ambulance. I have not played that
<v Speaker 1>in forever.
<v Speaker 2>Are they going to add that game you have to
<v Speaker 2>play for Blake Club? May You'll make it a lot
<v Speaker 2>easier for you, isn't it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just put Sonic Blast in there, everybody, I'll
<v Speaker 1>play it, and I'll play it in Kwami three. Oh boy, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>I think Kawami three is looking real promising. I'd you too.
<v Speaker 2>But then there was that one controversy with the one
<v Speaker 2>guy they brought back who's like a pest. It's like,
<v Speaker 2>I didn't hear this one one of the and chat
<v Speaker 2>can fill this in forma. I don't want to speak
<v Speaker 2>to the exact names or anything like that, but I
<v Speaker 2>remember seeing that one of the actors or whether it's
<v Speaker 2>appearance actors, voice actors maybe both, who's coming into the
<v Speaker 2>game is not a very not a very good individual.
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like they got into some trouble with some things.
<v Speaker 2>And again I don't want to fill in again, it's
<v Speaker 2>if you can an actor who's a domestic domestic abuser.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you Kman there it is so Yeah, that that
<v Speaker 2>part kind of colors it for me a little bit.
<v Speaker 1>But they won't even and they won't they won't address it. Okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's they want address it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>There's always something, all right, well, always every single time. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>let's continue on here with the headlines. We do have uh,
<v Speaker 1>Steam Machine verified requirements will have fewer constraints than the
<v Speaker 1>Steam Deck, says Valve. This is from Bryant Francis at
<v Speaker 1>Game Developer. As interest in valves recently announced Steam Machine
<v Speaker 1>continues to swirl, developers have had plenty of reason to
<v Speaker 1>wonder what will be needed to attract player interest on
<v Speaker 1>the platform. While the company still hasn't released a pricing
<v Speaker 1>info for the Steam OS based hardware, it has shed
<v Speaker 1>some light on its verification process and a new interview
<v Speaker 1>with Game Developer. According to Valve designer Lawrence Yang, developers
<v Speaker 1>hoping for a Steam Machine verified badge excuse me can
<v Speaker 1>expect fewer constraints than Steam Deck verification. One easy rule
<v Speaker 1>of thumb is that if you title, if your title
<v Speaker 1>is verified on Steam Deck, it will be verified on
<v Speaker 1>Steam Machine. Yang continued VR based developers using Steam Frame
<v Speaker 1>verification may expect a different process, though Yang said, Valve
<v Speaker 1>will be going through the same rounds of testing and
<v Speaker 1>providing developer feedback as it does for other verification programs.
<v Speaker 1>The steam Deck ver Verified badge has proven to be
<v Speaker 1>more than mere quality assessor while releasing games on Steam.
<v Speaker 1>It's also been a marketing beat. Basically, these games show
<v Speaker 1>up in great on deck on the Steam when you
<v Speaker 1>log into the store on your Steam Deck, which has
<v Speaker 1>been very important for games trying to find an audience.
<v Speaker 1>Same thing will likely apply here. And then in this case,
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's more powerful hardware, so already the verification
<v Speaker 1>is going to be a little bit easier. There's also
<v Speaker 1>like less concerns about, you know, the portable nature of
<v Speaker 1>small screen. You know, there's a check for the verification
<v Speaker 1>badge for steam Deck where it's like, hey, is the
<v Speaker 1>text readable on this seven eight inch screen? And that
<v Speaker 1>won't be something that they will verify for the Steam
<v Speaker 1>machine because that's going to be a completely that would
<v Speaker 1>be something they can't control for. There will be everyone
<v Speaker 1>will have a different monitor sit at a different, different
<v Speaker 1>distance away, so they just won't even check for that.
<v Speaker 1>So that's the kind of thing that they won't be
<v Speaker 1>going for here. Bringing this up mostly because Hey, I'm
<v Speaker 1>still wondering what's going on with that Steam Machine pricing.
<v Speaker 1>Wonder how people are feeling about it in this moment.
<v Speaker 1>We had those rumors of a price that were debunked,
<v Speaker 1>but they were pretty high. Now people are kind of
<v Speaker 1>going back, hey, maybe this thing could still be six
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars. It's like, Oh, don't set yourself up for disappointment.
<v Speaker 1>How are you feeling about the steam Machine while we're
<v Speaker 1>in this weird in between period of the announcement and
<v Speaker 1>getting those extra details about when we can buy it
<v Speaker 1>and how much it's going to cost.
<v Speaker 2>I think anybody who was following the Steam Machine and
<v Speaker 2>also following the price of RAM should be very worried.
<v Speaker 2>I think that is. I mean when Nintendo is going
<v Speaker 2>and when they were talking about how the price of
<v Speaker 2>RAM might affect their choices going forward, and they are
<v Speaker 2>probably one of them. They're trying to be as family
<v Speaker 2>cost friendly as as they possibly can. With a bit
<v Speaker 2>of an asterisk, this should scare the hell out of
<v Speaker 2>you if you're looking forward to this. Honestly, I don't
<v Speaker 2>see in this current market how this launches less than
<v Speaker 2>like eight hundred, and that's like at a very low
<v Speaker 2>two hundred fifty six five twelve gigabytes storage with more
<v Speaker 2>storage top maybe like different models with different storage. It's
<v Speaker 2>I like, what's going on here? It just basically tells
<v Speaker 2>developers that if they can get verified for steam Deck,
<v Speaker 2>they just get verified for Steam Machine at the same time,
<v Speaker 2>Like there's there's there's less. If there's less constraints on
<v Speaker 2>the Steam Machine, then if you try to achieve Steam
<v Speaker 2>Deck steam machines shoul should have fall into place, right.
<v Speaker 2>It's not they should They should coincide very well, which
<v Speaker 2>makes sense when you because you're trying to It seems
<v Speaker 2>like they're trying to build a whole ecosystem, a whole
<v Speaker 2>Steam ecosystem, and if and to do that, you want
<v Speaker 2>the machines to be able to work together, especially with
<v Speaker 2>like cloud saves and cross play and things like that.
<v Speaker 2>I also like that there is a seam de verified badge,
<v Speaker 2>just kind of like bringing back the old Nintendo Seal
<v Speaker 2>of Quality. That's nice. I missed that. But ultimately, as
<v Speaker 2>to answer your question, I would be very I would
<v Speaker 2>start saving now, even if it's like a year away,
<v Speaker 2>because if you're not putting away four figures, assuming that
<v Speaker 2>the price of RAM does.
<v Speaker 1>Not drop you might Yeah, RAM is just not going
<v Speaker 1>to go down in price this year, no matter what happens. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>So you talked about that ecosystem and it's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>they're they're kind of they really are presenting in a
<v Speaker 1>really clever way and the way that feels well thought out.
<v Speaker 1>Like you, they talk about in the story the Valve
<v Speaker 1>Steam controller puck, which is the thing where you could
<v Speaker 1>charge the controller, but also has its own I think
<v Speaker 1>two point four giga Urtz radio in there so you
<v Speaker 1>don't have to go through Bluetooth. And I'm like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>thank god. I'm at a point where pretty annoyed that
<v Speaker 1>we are stuck on Bluetooth as one of the primary
<v Speaker 1>ways to connect controllers to any device. And that's just
<v Speaker 1>because I've been noticing latency and connection issue issues depending
<v Speaker 1>on like where I'm sitting in a room and whether
<v Speaker 1>or not, like my kids walk in front of me.
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, oh, that's I don't want to have.
<v Speaker 1>That's terrible that two point four gigaherts did not have
<v Speaker 1>this problem for me really ever, and Bluetooth does. And
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, why did we stop? Like clearly we
<v Speaker 1>settled in on Bluetooth like standards. Before it was done,
<v Speaker 1>before it should have been in a place where it's
<v Speaker 1>or before it was in a place where it's like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>it can handle any sort of situation we throw at it.
<v Speaker 1>It became a standard, so people continue to use it,
<v Speaker 1>But now it's like, oh, the lowest common denominator for
<v Speaker 1>Bluetooth is dragging the whole thing down and making it
<v Speaker 1>a bad proposition for a lot of these situations. When
<v Speaker 1>it's connected and you're sitting close, it's fine. It's not
<v Speaker 1>like you have the latency you have with audio. Like
<v Speaker 1>control input data is a lot smaller than audio data,
<v Speaker 1>but still, so anytime I feel that latency, it drives
<v Speaker 1>me crazy. So glad they have this puck. Glad they
<v Speaker 1>thought about that, and that that puck is like built
<v Speaker 1>into the Steam machine, like so you could just connect
<v Speaker 1>a controller directly to that thing. So yeah, they're thinking
<v Speaker 1>about all the aspects of making you happy. But if
<v Speaker 1>you just buy Valve hardware, the question will really just
<v Speaker 1>come down to the cost.
<v Speaker 2>And we don't And I think that's the only the
<v Speaker 2>only thing that's keeping it from potentially really getting into
<v Speaker 2>this market is how much it's going to cost. People
<v Speaker 2>are gonna think of it as a high end PC, right.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it'll be that high, like if
<v Speaker 2>we're talking twenty twenty twenty five hundred, but it's going
<v Speaker 2>to be up there. It is weird too that the
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about bluetooth, that kids can affect it walking past.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe there was five G in those vaccines after all.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, right, they're their own five G signals messing
<v Speaker 1>things up. I think that's probably got to be it,
<v Speaker 1>all right. This next story is a rumor PS five
<v Speaker 1>pros big PS Big Pisser update. Yeah, big Big Pisser.
<v Speaker 1>The Big Pisser update, releasing by March, improves graphics and performance.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Robert Ramsey at push Square. If fresh
<v Speaker 1>rumors are to be believed, Sony's big PS five Pro
<v Speaker 1>update should be right around the corner. This is the
<v Speaker 1>Pisser enhancement that's been talked about for a couple of
<v Speaker 1>years now. The update will improve the AI driven tech,
<v Speaker 1>which already allows for better image quality without sacrificing performance
<v Speaker 1>in certain PS five games. If you've heard us talk
<v Speaker 1>about d LSS, this has been PlayStation's equivalent. This has
<v Speaker 1>been and they are working with AMD now to be like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>Sony's not gonna do a lot of the work. AMD
<v Speaker 1>is gonna do the work and make PSS are better.
<v Speaker 1>So here we go, lo better pisser. Uh yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>got you. This is a it's exciting, but I wonder
<v Speaker 1>how much of a difference it's really gonna make, you know,
<v Speaker 1>I always kind of get it in my head it say, oh,
<v Speaker 1>this could be could be like a five percent increase
<v Speaker 1>and frame rate or whatever and a bump to resolution,
<v Speaker 1>But usually the reality is some games are two percent
<v Speaker 1>better and some games are two percent worse. So I
<v Speaker 1>want to see what this looks like. At the very least,
<v Speaker 1>I want to see what AMD's input has accomplished here,
<v Speaker 1>and AMD and Sony working together could help them catch
<v Speaker 1>up a little bit to what is happening with the LSS,
<v Speaker 1>not that that's even an option on the PlayStation. But yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this is cool. I guess should we be expecting games
<v Speaker 1>to be running better here pretty soon? Jason, I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>what do you think one would? Hope?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's the whole reason for the enhancement, right,
<v Speaker 2>But again, I think this is going to be a
<v Speaker 2>situation where first party games are going to benefit, and
<v Speaker 2>third party games are either going to not have a
<v Speaker 2>very noticeable change or may even suffer a little bit
<v Speaker 2>until they can catch up and update themselves. And that's
<v Speaker 2>not to say that PlayStation wouldn't be sharing their plans
<v Speaker 2>for this big piss or update with those third parties,
<v Speaker 2>but they don't know what they're dealing with until they
<v Speaker 2>have it in front of them, right and then we
<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's going to the dev kits first
<v Speaker 2>or if it's just coming to the entire ecosystem and
<v Speaker 2>they have to play catch up. I don't know that
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be noticeable on either end really to
<v Speaker 2>the to the layman. At least, this is an update
<v Speaker 2>for like us who follow this this thing as closely
<v Speaker 2>as we do. And even then it's going to be
<v Speaker 2>one of those things where the differences really show up
<v Speaker 2>in like a Digital Foundry comparison video, where you're not
<v Speaker 2>once you see it you're like, oh okay, but at
<v Speaker 2>first you might be like, I don't really know what
<v Speaker 2>the hell's going on here. I like that they're thinking
<v Speaker 2>about it. I mean, it's good that they see the
<v Speaker 2>LSS as a for lack of a better term, threat
<v Speaker 2>and that they are increasing their the size of their
<v Speaker 2>pisser with this update, but it remains to be seen
<v Speaker 2>whether the blue pill they plan to inject he will
<v Speaker 2>actually work.
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, yes, exactly, it's time for that update. Here.
<v Speaker 1>The thing with the PS five Pro and with all
<v Speaker 1>this tech is the PS five is already good hardware
<v Speaker 1>and games desk stranding to last year was like I'm
<v Speaker 1>playing on the original PS five and it looks great.
<v Speaker 1>I kind of don't know what I would get from
<v Speaker 1>from the PS five Pro. And you would get higher
<v Speaker 1>resolution and may maybe some better performance. You would probably
<v Speaker 1>be able to notice it a little bit if you,
<v Speaker 1>especially if you were someone who sits relatively close to
<v Speaker 1>your TV. But we are like in deep diminishing returns
<v Speaker 1>for all this stuff, and I just don't know, like,
<v Speaker 1>do you have a PS five Pro?
<v Speaker 2>Are you not? I did not invest. I still have
<v Speaker 2>the launch PS five that I got SA in twenty twenty,
<v Speaker 2>and I think I'm okay with.
<v Speaker 1>That same Yeah, And I don't know that this update
<v Speaker 1>will change most people's feelings about the PS five Pro.
<v Speaker 1>The PS five Pro will continue to be like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>that's a premium thing for one out of every ten
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation freaks who just need to have all the best
<v Speaker 1>hardware because there is there's still not kind of like
<v Speaker 1>one compelling case of Oh, this game takes huge advantage
<v Speaker 1>of the PS five Pro and it's like I should
<v Speaker 1>get that so I can have the best experience. It's like,
<v Speaker 1>No is running pretty great on PS five. I guess
<v Speaker 1>does Does Grand Theft Auto six change that? Probably not.
<v Speaker 1>They probably make that make sure that game runs real
<v Speaker 1>well on PS five standard, right.
<v Speaker 2>I mean they're trying to make sure it runs really
<v Speaker 2>well on series s, aren't they, So they kind of
<v Speaker 2>have to include the base PS five and that if
<v Speaker 2>that game comes out and has any technological issues at
<v Speaker 2>all on any of the current consoles, they're going to
<v Speaker 2>hear about it. So yeah, I don't I don't think
<v Speaker 2>that they are going to make the PS five pro mandatory.
<v Speaker 2>It may get some nice bumps in frame rate or
<v Speaker 2>resolution or what have you, but I don't think it's
<v Speaker 2>going to be essential. Uh. And if they come out
<v Speaker 2>and say that, you know, it would be a very
<v Speaker 2>savvy marketing tool for Sony and Play for PlayStation and
<v Speaker 2>take two to kind of merge on this and be like,
<v Speaker 2>you know, this is what the PS five Pro will
<v Speaker 2>do for your experience, and then they.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I don't think it. I don't think you
<v Speaker 1>get those people in the room and convince the majority
<v Speaker 1>of people to care about selling PS five pros versus
<v Speaker 1>selling copies of GTA six that will be ever ones
<v Speaker 1>priority there and chat pointed out, Yeah, Final Fantasy seven
<v Speaker 1>Rebirth did look noticeably better on PS five Pro, but
<v Speaker 1>that was like there was some like weird softness to
<v Speaker 1>the image or for Final Fantasy seven Rebirth on PS
<v Speaker 1>five that I feel like that eventually got updated a bit,
<v Speaker 1>but maybe not. Yeah, I still don't have a PS
<v Speaker 1>five Pro either. I probably am gonna go through this
<v Speaker 1>generation without getting one, which is weird for me, but
<v Speaker 1>that's just I'm not playing consoles a lot anyhow. I'm
<v Speaker 1>playing the Switch. I'm playing PC and playing Steam Deck.
<v Speaker 2>As they tried it as a tried and true console
<v Speaker 2>Star Wars for most of my life. I am finding
<v Speaker 2>that the invention of the portable PC it has made
<v Speaker 2>my Steam library grow exponentially. You could say it was
<v Speaker 2>its own big pisser update, just being being able to
<v Speaker 2>play those like with the Switch up in the living
<v Speaker 2>room while the kids are on their tablets in the
<v Speaker 2>morning or you know, get an hour in here or there.
<v Speaker 2>That seems to have benefited me. That's not to say
<v Speaker 2>I don't like my consoles. I still have Launch consoles,
<v Speaker 2>but the four consoles I have right now switch switch
<v Speaker 2>to Series X and PS five all launch or around
<v Speaker 2>launch window, so and they all still work just fine.
<v Speaker 2>So I don't see that changing anytime soon because I
<v Speaker 2>don't have to. I have other things to spend the
<v Speaker 2>money on.
<v Speaker 1>At the very least, I am going to continue being
<v Speaker 1>happy to see companies finding ways to make the hardware
<v Speaker 1>that some people and many people already have better in
<v Speaker 1>this time when it's going to be hard for a
<v Speaker 1>lot of people to justify upgrading to new hardware because
<v Speaker 1>it's going to get more and more expensive every single day.
<v Speaker 1>To that end, this is a little bit in that category.
<v Speaker 1>IOI lowers double O seven first light hardware requirements. This
<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem to be so much about like, oh, let's
<v Speaker 1>try to really optimize the game, although I'm sure they're
<v Speaker 1>trying to do that. Seems like that first batch of
<v Speaker 1>requirements were messed up and there was some miscommunication. At
<v Speaker 1>least according to IOI. This comes from Jake Valentine at
<v Speaker 1>dual Shockers. A week ago, io Interactive revealed the PC
<v Speaker 1>specs for Double seventh First Light. They were thankfully pretty
<v Speaker 1>forgiving and excess. Both the minimum requirements only need a
<v Speaker 1>Nvidia GTX sixteen sixty or and matched up with an
<v Speaker 1>AMD rise in five thirty five hundred. That's risin is,
<v Speaker 1>that's the CPU. So it's a little confusing, right with
<v Speaker 1>an Intel Core I five ninety five hundred K and
<v Speaker 1>AMD rising five thirty five hundred processor being like the
<v Speaker 1>minimum specs, I believe even the recommended specs are like
<v Speaker 1>just a little bit more than that. Everything seems to
<v Speaker 1>be pretty accessible. Given the price of PC parts today
<v Speaker 1>becoming more and more unreasonable, it's a breath of fresh
<v Speaker 1>air that we won't need to drop over one thousand
<v Speaker 1>dollars to play the game. So yeah, they originally had
<v Speaker 1>let's see the recommended RAM requirements. This is the big
<v Speaker 1>one because RAM is going up massively in price, and
<v Speaker 1>this was the game that came out and been like,
<v Speaker 1>we recommend thirty two gigabytes and might even be like
<v Speaker 1>to be like, you have to have thirty two gigabytes
<v Speaker 1>for the minimum specs. Both of those now are down
<v Speaker 1>to sixteen gigabytes, and they're saying six gigabytes of VRAM
<v Speaker 1>and eight gigabytes of ERAM forre recommended. So that's another
<v Speaker 1>thing where it's like people are having a hard time
<v Speaker 1>upgrading GPS already. They've been expensive for a while. They're
<v Speaker 1>getting more expensive, especially the ones that are gonna have twelve, sixteen,
<v Speaker 1>twenty four gigabytes of VRAM. People have a lot of
<v Speaker 1>cards that only have eight gigabytes of VRAM. I think
<v Speaker 1>people are at a point where we can only spend
<v Speaker 1>so much money on this stuff. Developers, you kind of
<v Speaker 1>maybe have to go back to targeting just a slightly
<v Speaker 1>lower spec and it needs to start with games like
<v Speaker 1>this one. And so, yeah, this is mostly good news.
<v Speaker 1>I think people are going to be happy to hear this.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I went from guaranteed to play this on a
<v Speaker 2>console too, maybe I can run it on my PC.
<v Speaker 2>And that was all in the RAM and graphics card change.
<v Speaker 2>I liked that they thought of this. I wonder if
<v Speaker 2>it was influenced at all by the fact that Nvidia
<v Speaker 2>is tossing around bringing back the three thousand series. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know if they confirmed they were doing that.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they've always been making those GPUs, but it
<v Speaker 1>just sounds like they are going to double down on
<v Speaker 1>doing what they've already been doing there, and it's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>don't worry, we're going to keep making those and might
<v Speaker 1>even like kind of put them upfront and center. I
<v Speaker 1>guess I feel right that might not be like fully confirmed,
<v Speaker 1>but they never really stopped making the thirty.
<v Speaker 2>Sixty, right right, But like my twenty seventy, you'll get
<v Speaker 2>the job done, and that works for me. I don't
<v Speaker 2>have to upgrade anytime soon, especially I'm not that I'm
<v Speaker 2>the biggest Bond fan, but if I wanted to, it wouldn't.
<v Speaker 2>I am now no longer hard pressed. I am good
<v Speaker 2>to go, which is nice. I love the statement that
<v Speaker 2>they made the earlier mistake was to an internal miscommunication
<v Speaker 2>leading to an older version of the specs to be shared. Yeah. Older,
<v Speaker 2>as in before the RAM prices went crazy and they
<v Speaker 2>had to change them. I do wonder how much that's
<v Speaker 2>going to affect like visual fidelity and quality, especially if
<v Speaker 2>they weren't planning on going this slow. But again, I
<v Speaker 2>don't think that's going to be anybody who is going
<v Speaker 2>to be playing at these base minimum specs is going
<v Speaker 2>to notice anyway. You know.
<v Speaker 1>The other thing there that we haven't mentioned is this
<v Speaker 1>game did get a bit of a delay, got a
<v Speaker 1>small delay. It was going to come out like next month.
<v Speaker 1>Now it's coming out in May, I think it so everywhere. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's coming out late May. So they got a couple
<v Speaker 1>extra months, maybe specifically to focus on optimization and make
<v Speaker 1>sure the game runs as well as it possibly can
<v Speaker 1>and runs better on lower end hardware if they can
<v Speaker 1>accomplish it. I think that's where a lot of developers
<v Speaker 1>should be putting their focus right now, is just try
<v Speaker 1>to sell your game on hardware that's already out there,
<v Speaker 1>not on any hypothetical thing that is coming or this
<v Speaker 1>idea that people will upgrade their systems to play your games.
<v Speaker 1>That's not in the cards for the vast majority of
<v Speaker 1>people who are playing PC games right now. And I
<v Speaker 1>think everyone wants to just take a deep breath and
<v Speaker 1>enjoy the stuff they have rather than trying to navigate
<v Speaker 1>this insane market of purchasing increase the increased price on
<v Speaker 1>RAM and stuff like that. All right, last couple of
<v Speaker 1>stories here, Ryan Hurst tapped to play Kratos in Ryan
<v Speaker 1>Videos God of War from Sony Pitcher Television and Amazon
<v Speaker 1>MGM Studio. Is this a guy that I think I
<v Speaker 1>recognized from Sons of Anarchy? Oh, b yes, that's that's
<v Speaker 1>what that's what was his name? His this image they
<v Speaker 1>have here and Sean, I don't know if you can
<v Speaker 1>bring that up for people to see. He's got the
<v Speaker 1>exact same beard as Credos in this image. It is
<v Speaker 1>literally identical except for the color. Would if they can
<v Speaker 1>die that it is what he also? Oh, he voiced
<v Speaker 1>or in Ragnarok the game. Oh okay, Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>That's why I like this so much, because he's familiar
<v Speaker 2>with the franchise. Yeah, he's familiar with what's needed and
<v Speaker 2>he may consult. I can't remember his last name, Christopher,
<v Speaker 2>the guy who played Crados in yeah dandamn.
<v Speaker 1>Right, what the hell?
<v Speaker 2>Why can't I think of his last Christopher Stargate man.
<v Speaker 2>That's yeah, sure, that that seems right. But yeah, and
<v Speaker 2>for people ask Chris Judge, yes, thank you, there it is,
<v Speaker 2>thank you Judge. It is Dad Credos and not Pervy
<v Speaker 2>Credos specifically, they are Atreus is ten in this so
<v Speaker 2>I think it's following the story of the first game. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I talked about spreading the ashes. It talks about that
<v Speaker 2>that sort of part in the description that was provided
<v Speaker 2>by Sony and Amazon. So we're sticking with the first game,
<v Speaker 2>which is interesting to me too.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's interesting. I guess it makes sense, like you
<v Speaker 1>want to start in media res and sort of have
<v Speaker 1>flashbacks to like his life as the bad Krados or
<v Speaker 1>the less the less warm Crados.
<v Speaker 2>And like that, because the stuff that happened in that
<v Speaker 2>game probably is only you should only be referenced in
<v Speaker 2>flashbacks in some certain areas, Like.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like I hope they put up threesome as a
<v Speaker 1>post credit scene, of course, but they've Yeah, but like
<v Speaker 1>him just being violent and killing gods, they can flash
<v Speaker 1>back to that. They could even have an whole episode.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, here's the thing I did that like set
<v Speaker 1>up this moment that I'm now dealing with rip repercussions
<v Speaker 1>of either emotionally or in terms of the antagonist that
<v Speaker 1>I'm facing. And then yes, the real emotion will have
<v Speaker 1>to come from his relationship to Atreus in his deadfe
<v Speaker 1>And I wonder if they weave in the back the
<v Speaker 1>flashbacks with Fay from Ragnarok into the original game's story
<v Speaker 1>now and as someone points out in chat, if Debra
<v Speaker 1>and Wool from True Blood will reprise her.
<v Speaker 2>Role right that, Yeah, she was fantastic as it. There
<v Speaker 2>is one aspect to this that I did see that
<v Speaker 2>is sort of a disappointing from a cultural standpoint. Credos
<v Speaker 2>has always been voiced by an African American actor. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>it was Chris Judge and then the other guys. I'm
<v Speaker 2>really bad with names today, and part of me was
<v Speaker 2>sort of hoping that that was going to continue.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think there was like, there's no precedent here
<v Speaker 1>of it's got to be like, you know, James Bond
<v Speaker 1>looks like this, there's no president like that here, right,
<v Speaker 1>They could have done that and people would have to
<v Speaker 1>just there would be very little argument that people could
<v Speaker 1>stand on and the people and to talk about here
<v Speaker 1>are awful racists, Like that's still what I happened. But
<v Speaker 1>it's like they could have just like planted their flag.
<v Speaker 2>Now I agree, yes, but and that that part is
<v Speaker 2>disappointing to me. But I do have faith that Ryan
<v Speaker 2>Hurst will play the character faithfully and if he does
<v Speaker 2>a question, he will go to the people that he
<v Speaker 2>knows whether it be Corey Baurock or the studio who
<v Speaker 2>is He's involved as an executive producer as well. I
<v Speaker 2>also like that the director of Showgun and who's done
<v Speaker 2>a couple episodes of the Boys in Fallout, is doing
<v Speaker 2>the first two episodes of this series. That bodes well.
<v Speaker 1>That premiere. The pilot of Shogun is Oh that's choice.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, awesome. So this is cool. This, it's a cool,
<v Speaker 2>good cast thing. I am in on it. I just wish,
<v Speaker 2>you know, like I said, they may have continued on
<v Speaker 2>with the one part of the tradition. But we'll see,
<v Speaker 2>We'll see how he does.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Ronald D. Moore is serving as showrunner.
<v Speaker 2>So uh, I said bal Rock not Barlock.
<v Speaker 1>You are not the first, won't be the last. Uh
<v Speaker 1>you probably want to be the first or last on
<v Speaker 1>this show. I'm sure I've said.
<v Speaker 2>If he takes up boxing, I am fucked. Uh.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Ronald D. Moore is you know he did Battlestar
<v Speaker 1>Galactic Gay I did he started his career, started his career,
<v Speaker 1>I would. I became familiar with him on Star Trek
<v Speaker 1>the Next Generation then I think he was integral to
<v Speaker 1>uh to Deep Space nine. So yeah, he's got a
<v Speaker 1>lot uh, you know Carnival, which god, he ran that
<v Speaker 1>show and I love that show. So that's that's a
<v Speaker 1>team right there, and they could do some cool snow,
<v Speaker 1>all right. The other casting rumor for a prime video
<v Speaker 1>show from Amazon, Sophie Turner as Lara Croft. Uh. They
<v Speaker 1>basically released a still what looks like a costume test.
<v Speaker 2>It's her first image, official image as Laura Croft. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, it's crazy. It's just that's just that's just Laura Croft.
<v Speaker 1>That's just straight up Laura Croft. It's crazy.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, lock me in the freezer please. It's it's well done.
<v Speaker 2>It's very well done. And and if you know the
<v Speaker 2>story there was there was a story that came out
<v Speaker 2>not too not too far back, I think maybe earlier
<v Speaker 2>this week, about the training regimen she went through to
<v Speaker 2>become Lawa Croft. Absolutely insane.
<v Speaker 1>Good for her.
<v Speaker 2>I like Sophie Turner. I liked her as Santa Stark
<v Speaker 2>when Game of Thrones was good. She was fine in
<v Speaker 2>Dark Phoenix. I don't think that was her fault. So
<v Speaker 2>I like this casting. I like this idea, and I
<v Speaker 2>like she has she has the look. There it is
<v Speaker 2>and somebody pointed out I think it was Ash Parrish
<v Speaker 2>when Blue Sky pointed out the reason Lara Croft hasn't
<v Speaker 2>looked like Roorercroft and she's back now is the circle glasses,
<v Speaker 2>And damn it, there is something to that with. Without
<v Speaker 2>the circle glasses, it just looks like, you know, femme
<v Speaker 2>fatale heroine. But once you put those on, for whatever reason,
<v Speaker 2>Lara Croft comes through. This is awesome and not I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I was excited to watch this before. I always give
<v Speaker 2>all of the video game TV shows a chance, but
<v Speaker 2>they seem like they know what they're doing too. Amazon Man, Fallout,
<v Speaker 2>God of War is looking good. This is looking good.
<v Speaker 2>They seem to know.
<v Speaker 1>I think they get I think they've kind of unlocked
<v Speaker 1>it a little bit of like, oh, if we sort
<v Speaker 1>of just hit you know, the look, the feel, the sound,
<v Speaker 1>kind of get all that stuff right, and then we
<v Speaker 1>have a decent creative team that can put in a
<v Speaker 1>great story that does respect your source material, we'll probably
<v Speaker 1>have something and that they worked for Fallout for sure
<v Speaker 1>and still is yeah, still is, and theyund probably replicate
<v Speaker 1>it here. I just did like for audio listeners. She's
<v Speaker 1>got the red round sunglasses and really the classic Laura
<v Speaker 1>Croft look, the short shorts, the sort of the holsters
<v Speaker 1>for a gun on the thighs, that sort of thing.
<v Speaker 1>It's it's Laura Croft, It's crazy. M h. All right,
<v Speaker 1>that does it for the headlines. Let's go ahead and
<v Speaker 1>get on with the show. Let's do the poll question
<v Speaker 1>from yesterday. And by that I mean I need to
<v Speaker 1>pull up YouTube dot com slash at giant bomb. If
<v Speaker 1>you go to the post tab there, you can find
<v Speaker 1>the poll question and vote yourself. Yesterday, we asked, have
<v Speaker 1>you ever played an Echo the Dolphin game? There's those
<v Speaker 1>rumors of all those Echo I guess I don't even rumors.
<v Speaker 1>There's a bunch of Echo the Dolphin games coming. I
<v Speaker 1>wanted to know, Hey, does our audience have a lot
<v Speaker 1>of people who've played Echo the Dolphin? Fifty seven percent
<v Speaker 1>said yes, Forty three percent said now, that's not bad.
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of people who've played Echo.
<v Speaker 2>You know why I think you got those results because
<v Speaker 2>the word played is there, not the word finished. That's
<v Speaker 2>how I was able to be Yeah, for sure. But
<v Speaker 2>like this story was so weird to me that it
<v Speaker 2>came out of nowhere yesterday, because I remember back on
<v Speaker 2>May fifth of twenty twenty five, I was writing a
<v Speaker 2>story about three Echo the Dolphin games that had been
<v Speaker 2>announced through the Xbox blog and through the Echo Dolphin
<v Speaker 2>website while sitting in my daughter's answer recital. But that's
<v Speaker 2>neither here nor there. And there was a countdown clock,
<v Speaker 2>and the countdown clock was supposed to be for April
<v Speaker 2>twenty second, twenty twenty six. I guess they got impatient.
<v Speaker 2>They didn't want to wait any longer. I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>but it was always three projects. It was Tides of
<v Speaker 2>Time remaster or a remake I think is it called,
<v Speaker 2>and then at least one brand new one. And I
<v Speaker 2>don't know what made them decide, hey, let's talk about
<v Speaker 2>it again. But the guilty gear comment got me. Sorry,
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I mean, it just resurfaced again.
<v Speaker 1>It happened.
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes the story will come out, people forget about it,
<v Speaker 2>and it'll just resurface out of nowhere, and this was
<v Speaker 2>one of those. It jumped out of the water, just
<v Speaker 2>like a dolphin would do.
<v Speaker 1>But no, cool.
<v Speaker 2>If the games are good, great, If not, we'll just
<v Speaker 2>play them and forget about them, just like we did
<v Speaker 2>the other Echo games.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, exactly.
<v Speaker 2>Yes.
<v Speaker 1>I hope that they are able to get this delivered
<v Speaker 1>and actually make it happen. It doesn't sound like it's
<v Speaker 1>part of the Sega initiative self, but it's like Sega's
<v Speaker 1>friendly with all these partner partners that they work with.
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully we can actually see it through. All right, let's
<v Speaker 1>see here, I have a new poll question. We'll get
<v Speaker 1>to that here in a second. Before we do that, though, Jason,
<v Speaker 1>I you tell people where they could find you on
<v Speaker 1>the internet and what you have going on and all
<v Speaker 1>of that good stuff.
<v Speaker 2>Jasonfinelle dot Com on Blue Sky, big Man Finelle, everywhere
<v Speaker 2>else but not X. I finally got rid of that shit.
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't do it anymore. So I am just Blue
<v Speaker 2>Sky and Instagram mostly.
<v Speaker 1>Every day is worse than the last day on Twitter,
<v Speaker 1>and that means every day is the worst day of Twitter.
<v Speaker 1>It's just impressive actually in some ways.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I couldn't do that. And as as Dan Fiasco
<v Speaker 2>real quick to go back Messu mentions in the chat
<v Speaker 2>the pick of Sophie Turner flexing to show her work
<v Speaker 2>in a pool, we need a bigger freezer to lock
<v Speaker 2>us all day. But anyway, but so yeah, I have
<v Speaker 2>a couple of articles for Giant Bomb Bomb Game Spot.
<v Speaker 2>I did a full gallery of the upcoming Magic Set
<v Speaker 2>pre releases or tomorrow. Cannot wait for those dopamine hits,
<v Speaker 2>opening those packs, playing and pre release That should be
<v Speaker 2>fun MMRPG. I write too. I did a looking forward
<v Speaker 2>to twenty twenty six preview of Phantom Blade zero, which
<v Speaker 2>is slowly raising up my most anticipated I like and
<v Speaker 2>I think we talked about this before. I like that
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to find this middle ground between a Soul's
<v Speaker 2>like and a classic you know, button masher where you
<v Speaker 2>press the buttons for different combos. You have eight different weapons,
<v Speaker 2>each with their own sorts of mechanics in fighting and
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. The the the Wusha influence is strong,
<v Speaker 2>especially in some of the enemies, like the boss you
<v Speaker 2>fight in this demo. It's like a bunch of blade
<v Speaker 2>dancers and like this, they're doing this very choreographed dance.
<v Speaker 2>They'll attack you at once. The main dancer is your focus,
<v Speaker 2>but the other seven are feeding him life, so you
<v Speaker 2>have to kind of take them all out at once
<v Speaker 2>while all so focusing on the big guy. And then
<v Speaker 2>there's a second phase where they're doing like the rope
<v Speaker 2>that the Chinese kind of sort of rope date, so
<v Speaker 2>he's like swinging from the ropes and coming at you
<v Speaker 2>really really neat. I also really really liked this is
<v Speaker 2>a small thing, but it worked for me. I got
<v Speaker 2>to the second phase, died, went back to the checkpoint,
<v Speaker 2>and then when I got to the boss fight again,
<v Speaker 2>they were still in the second phase.
<v Speaker 1>I love that. Oh okay, interesting that I don't have
<v Speaker 1>to replay the whole boss fight. It tells you, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>that tells you a lot about what kind of game
<v Speaker 1>it is, all right, yes.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, so so I am. I'm very much
<v Speaker 2>looking forward to that. That's September, I think, right September ninth.
<v Speaker 2>That's exciting. And then yeah, just you know, posting about
<v Speaker 2>stuff on Blue Sky that makes me mad or happy
<v Speaker 2>or sad, all that good stuff. Got something coming up
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow on MMORPG. That'll be fun. Excited to talk about
<v Speaker 2>that something else I saw at Summer Games Fest. And yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I'll stop blabbing now. That's that's me baby.
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's uh, And go ahead blab anytime here on
<v Speaker 1>the show. That's why we have you new poll question.
<v Speaker 1>Are you going back to your animal crossing island in
<v Speaker 1>New Horizons the options here? Yes, No, I'm starting a
<v Speaker 1>New Island. No, I'm waiting for the next game. No,
<v Speaker 1>I don't play animal crossing. There you go, just cover
<v Speaker 1>most of you. I'm sure I forgot some of you.
<v Speaker 1>I got you. Guys all have your very specific needs
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to animal crossing. But that's what the
<v Speaker 1>comments are for. You can always leave a comment. We
<v Speaker 1>usually scroll through those as well. All right, that poll
<v Speaker 1>question will get answered and responded to, and we'll go
<v Speaker 1>through all of the results tomorrow here on Game Mess
<v Speaker 1>Mornings on Giant Bomb. Speaking of Giant Bomb, it's Thursday,
<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna be doing a voicemail dump truck later.
<v Speaker 1>Looking forward to doing that. Jan is out on assignment.
<v Speaker 1>Sean will be helping us with that as well, so yeah,
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to that. We'll also should have some quick
<v Speaker 1>looks going up here and there. We've been recording someone
<v Speaker 1>a little bit early, so they won't be coming out
<v Speaker 1>to like next week, but yeah, look out for those
<v Speaker 1>happening this week and next week, and then yeah, we'll
<v Speaker 1>be back tomorrow with another Game Mess Mornings. All right, Jason,
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for hanging out with me to
<v Speaker 1>day to talk about video games.
<v Speaker 2>Man.
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate it.
<v Speaker 2>Always a pleasure, looking forward to the next time, my friend.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you all for watching and listening. Oh yeah, we'll
<v Speaker 1>talk over that residentval thing today. That's today, right, five o'clock.
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk over that as well. All right, have a
<v Speaker 1>good one, everybody, take care of yourself. You the best
<v Speaker 1>audience in gaming. Until next time, have a good one,
<v Speaker 1>take care of yourself and goodbye.