Garrett Stubbs is optioned, reacts to news on show

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Shortly after the Phillies optioned Garrett Stubbs to Triple-A Lehigh Valley on Thursday, he joined The Phillies Show to talk about a difficult day, how he plans to tackle his new job in Triple-A, what he will miss most in the Phillies’ clubhouse and more. 

Stubbs is one of the most popular players in the Phillies’ clubhouse in recent memory, and it’s not just because he curated the “Phils Win” playlist on Spotify and celebrated clinchers with the best of them. He worked hard behind the scenes, helping pitchers prepare for their starts and more. He brought a lot to the table, and some of those qualities showed during his chat with us.

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2025-03-21 33 min Transcript

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00:00:03
Speaker 1: Hi, this is jacom Ute.

00:00:05
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Philly Show.

00:00:08
Speaker 3: Hi, everybody, Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd Z Lucky.

00:00:12
Speaker 4: It's the Philly Show.

00:00:13
Speaker 3: It's Friday, March twenty first, twenty twenty five. A lot of news happening in Clearwater. The big news right at the top, of course, is that Garret Stubbs got optioned to Triple A on Thursday. Raphael Marshawn is now going to be the backup catcher opening the twenty twenty five season. But some other news we want to talk about as well, Jim, and that is Matt Strom felt better today. He threw a bullpen session yesterday Thursday, and Ranger Suarez also is feeling a little bit better with his back.

00:00:44
Speaker 5: Jim.

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Speaker 3: We talked with Dave Dombrowski earlier Thursday before he went down to Northport for the Braves, and he says he still thinks there's a chance that Ranger Swarez.

00:00:57
Speaker 4: Can be ready by opening day.

00:01:00
Speaker 3: Still, it's not a you know, matter of fact that he's going to open the season on the injured list or anything like that. So it seems like some good news on Strom, seems like some good news on Suarez.

00:01:10
Speaker 4: Still a lot to be decided. Nothing's been decided.

00:01:12
Speaker 3: But let's talk about Garrett Stubbs and and Raphael Marshan.

00:01:17
Speaker 4: Not not a surprise, I guess in your mind.

00:01:21
Speaker 6: No, not a surprise just because of the UH. I guess what should call the business of baseball. That's a premium position in the middle of the diamond. It's a tough, rigorous position, and you need to protect protect your depth. And that's what the Phillies did there. Garrett Stubbs had a minor league option. The Phillies have utilized it. Rafael Marchan did not have a minor league option. They did not want to risk losing him on waivers if they tried to get him a triple A and you know, they would have lost him.

00:01:51
Speaker 1: They might have had to trade him, who knows.

00:01:53
Speaker 6: But you needed to preserve your upper level catching depth because it's it's such an important position.

00:01:59
Speaker 1: You're thin there.

00:02:01
Speaker 6: So Garrett Stubbs, to me, is still a very important part of this Phillies team. He's just playing these games seventy miles away in Lehigh Valley, So that's I don't think anybody's surprised by it, you know, this is an organization that once upon a time and I don't even like to talk about this, and I'd like to talk about injuries, but you know in nineteen seventy they lost two catchers in one game and they had to go to their third string catcher in one inning, within like four pitches in San Francisco, Tim McCarver and Mike Ryan went down.

00:02:35
Speaker 1: So you just need that depth. And they and you know, it's a long way.

00:02:42
Speaker 6: To Edwardo tayit and you know between there between Tayee, who's gonna play in the low minors and Stubbs and march On is like a golf and you need this catching depth.

00:02:57
Speaker 1: They've preserved it.

00:02:57
Speaker 6: It's a tough break for Garrett Stubbs, but I know you spoke to him and I was able to check out that interview and his attitude is unbelievable.

00:03:08
Speaker 1: This guy is a total professional.

00:03:11
Speaker 6: I mean, you guys had this interview all set up and he gets very difficult news today and he says, no, it's still doing the interview.

00:03:19
Speaker 1: To me, that's a professional. That's a man's man.

00:03:24
Speaker 6: And you know a lot of people would say, ah, he's a media friendly.

00:03:27
Speaker 1: No, that's not media friendly.

00:03:29
Speaker 6: That's fan friendly, because you know, the media is just the middleman connecting to the fan. This is a guy who opened up today to you about how he felt about having to go to the miners, and he spoke to the fans, and now the fans have an idea what's going on in his mind, in his heart, and that's what you call he's a professional athlete.

00:03:53
Speaker 1: But he's a professional professional athlete.

00:03:55
Speaker 6: And I love some of the things I heard, the attitude he's going to go down there with. And one of the things that really jumped out at me is how he hopes to help the guy like Mick Abel. Can you imagine if he helps a guy like Mick g Abel take a big step forward, what that will mean form Mick Gable, for the Phillies, for the franchise, for the fans. You know, I look at Garrett Stubbs, very very bright guy, very articulate. Anybody who's ever heard him talking, will hear him talking a minute, knows.

00:04:23
Speaker 1: That this is the guy who could be a pitching coach someday.

00:04:26
Speaker 6: You know, with these pitching staffs of coaching staffs at the major league level, there's two and three guys handling the pitchers right, the way he gained plans, the way he communicates the guy who could.

00:04:39
Speaker 1: You know when his playing career is over. I think he can still play for a long time.

00:04:42
Speaker 6: But I think he can make contributions to a major league team as on somebody's pitching staff, not a pitcher, as somebody's pitching coaching staff, game planning staff, whatever you want to call it. So the way he has handled this really professional.

00:04:59
Speaker 3: And he think and I meant this when I said this to him, I said, do you ever come into the ballpark just I'd be like, I just don't feel like talking anybody the jim, because I mean, you know, like some like I think, like most people, at least for me, some days I'm just like, oh man, I'm just I'm not I'm not in the mood.

00:05:15
Speaker 4: I just whatever happened at home or whatever, I take.

00:05:18
Speaker 3: It to the ballpark and it just But but Garrett Stubbs is constantly upbeat. And that's why I do think the the ability for him to go down there and still contribute to the big league team even if he's not on the big league team, by maybe working with some of these young pictures like Mick Abel. I mean, you know, Garrett Stubbs, you know, behind the scenes, hard worker, great prepare, uh you know, really good at helping his pictures. And he's also just a good con like a hype man almost. And I feel like if anybody could work with somebody or with the picture that's maybe struggling with their confidence, Garrett Stubbs his guy. But yeah, he handled everything today so incredibly well. You know, when we first talked to him in the morning, he talked about, listen, I don't know if I could have change anybody's mind with no matter how I played, And Dave Dombrowski basically confirmed that. When we talked to him afterwards, He's like, yeah, he there's really nothing more he could have done this spring to win this job. And so it's kind of a weird spot to be in knowing that no matter how well you play, the cards are kind of stacked against you. But the fact that he was so he took it so well, you know, he he he left the ballpark today. He's going to go over to the complex tomorrow, he said, and start work. You know, he's not gonna you know, take his whatever I think he can get, Like what two or three days, Jim do two hours, yeah, two hours.

00:06:35
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:06:35
Speaker 3: So he's he says he's gonna get over there and and get to work, which I which again says a lot about him.

00:06:42
Speaker 1: He does.

00:06:44
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:06:44
Speaker 3: Absolutely. So anyway, we had this and.

00:06:47
Speaker 6: The flip side of this, Todd is, you know, hey, Rafael Marshawn gets a chance, and Garrett is flat out said, Rafael Marchauan's a hect of a player. He's happy for him. Their friends. You know, Stubbs has mentored him and I talked to Marshaun about that a couple of weeks ago and he was very complimentary of Stubbs how he's helped him learned to game plan for pictures. So it's an opportunity for marchh On. It comes at the expense of Garrett Stubbs, but Garrett Stubb remains very crucial to the big picture here. A lot can happen over one hundred and sixty two games, a lot can happen. So very healthy attitude from Garrett Stubbs. And it's kind of a decision that the Phillies had to make. It's like Rubin said the other day, sometimes you have to be selfish as an organization. They had to be selfish here, they had to preserve their catching depth.

00:07:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would have just been the wrong move. You know, you like you know, you said Stubbs had made the team. Somebody goes down and now you're really digging deep into the farm system or you're just kind of scrambling. So it makes a lot of sense, but you know, like you know, Garrett, Garrett. One more thought on that is that you know, Garrett said he is going to text Marshawn says it was a texta he would appreciate it if when he got sent down to the minor leagues, and I'm sure that text message is going to be, you know, very positive and very much go out and do a great job.

00:08:12
Speaker 4: I hope you win a ton of.

00:08:13
Speaker 3: Games for the Phillies, because you know, hey, at the at the worst, at the least, Stubbs hopes to be back in September and contributing to this team some way, somehow if he's not up there a little bit earlier. So here is our chat yesterday with Garrett. Stubbs is coming up right after these words.

00:08:32
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00:09:29
Speaker 5: Com splash foulque foul, Garrett, thanks for coming on the Philly Show.

00:09:35
Speaker 3: A little background for like the people that are watching and listening. So we've been talking about you coming on like for a few days and you were kind of talking about, you know, what.

00:09:44
Speaker 5: Day would work, and when you're gonna be on the road, what our schedules are like.

00:09:47
Speaker 3: And then of course you know, today we find out you get option, but.

00:09:53
Speaker 5: A testament to your character.

00:09:56
Speaker 3: We get done talking to you for like about ten minutes in the clubhouse earlier this morning at bake your ballpark, and then you go, yeah, if you still if you still want.

00:10:04
Speaker 5: To do this and talk, Yeah you still want to talk to me?

00:10:06
Speaker 3: You could have easily said like, hey, man, right, I just need to get away and chill out and get away.

00:10:12
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, why were you open to it? I guess?

00:10:16
Speaker 3: And does that speak to kind of your mindset he has he got this news today?

00:10:21
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:10:21
Speaker 2: Look, I mean one, you guys treat us fairly and well in that locker room, and I enjoy having the conversations with you guys. I to me, you know, if we did it prior to today, then we're just spent probably on here speculating of what's going to happen. You know, how are your feelings about it? What do you think is going to happen? Now we know you know it's obviously done with. And I said in our interview earlier today it was something that I knew was possible coming into camp. But as far as like doing this interview, I really feel like the you guys, the media, and then the fans are what drive this city, right. You know, if you were to compare it to like, I'm not a big F one guy, but if you're going compare it to like an F one racing car, you know, we might be the shiny car and the and the driver and the seat, but the engine and what makes that car go is you guys, the media, and then our fans. So I'm always happy.

00:11:15
Speaker 3: To be a built I mean, you know, obviously super tough news today, Like what was your immediate reaction when you got it? I mean, I know, I think everybody kind of speculator or thought coming to camp knowing what you have an option, Marshawn does not.

00:11:31
Speaker 5: Was it still kind of like crap, here's the tap on the shoulder or.

00:11:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's things no matter what, even if you have I don't know if I had the expectation, but I knew the reality of the situation, right, So no matter what, when it when it does happen, it stings and you always feel like, all right, no matter what, I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna perform as best as I can and maybe it will change the minds. I don't think there are any minds that change here. I think there was a business decision that had to be made, and like I said there before earlier today, this is Marshaan's a great player, so I fully expect him to go out there, perform and help the team win. But you know, in my last three years, I've done just that is do nothing but help this team win, whether it be on the field off the field.

00:12:14
Speaker 5: That's been my mindset from the very beginning.

00:12:16
Speaker 2: So there was always the thought in the back of my head, you know, we've had a really good thing going and I've I've helped this team win, So maybe they'll see they'll see that and that will be the decision that's made at the end of the day. But now we're sitting here and this is a decision that's made and we're starting to.

00:12:31
Speaker 5: Help the team win anyway we can. Yeah, I mean Dave dem Breski kind of said the same thing. It was a business.

00:12:35
Speaker 3: It's just and it doesn't necessarily indicate you basically said that, like we've it was just tough. You know, with the option situation, the organizational depth situation, that there's really almost nothing you could have done just because of that situation. So, as a guy who's been in the game for several years, you're the player rep for the union, but you're obviously a super important piece of the clubhouse. Else, like the chemistry of the clubhouse is it just kind of a harsh reminder of just man, this is a.

00:13:07
Speaker 5: Brutal, brutal business.

00:13:09
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:13:09
Speaker 2: I think that there's different moments that I've had throughout my ten years in professional baseball where you I've tappened to me multiple times and you know, add this one to the list. But I've seen it happen to other players as well, where the business kind of just bites in the button that ends up being a decision that's made and sometimes here the get the crap end of the stick, if you will. So this is just one of those moments, and I don't I take it for what it is at face value. I don't think that there was any ill will by the organization. In fact, I know there wasn't. There was a business decision that they made. If I was in their shoes, I might make the same decision in that same sentence. Like I said before, we've done a lot of winning, so there also could have been the decision gone the other way.

00:13:56
Speaker 5: And that's why I come into.

00:13:57
Speaker 2: Spring training knowing the situation, but also understanding that maybe there will be a different outcome.

00:14:02
Speaker 5: But now we're in this situation. What was their action to some of your teammates. I mean, you know guys that you have really bonded.

00:14:10
Speaker 3: With over the years. J did you talk to J. T. Cox Schwartz is in this morning heart for all those guys. I mean, you guys are like you guys are buds.

00:14:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they they're down on the dumps about it too. I think that I know the feeling of last year went with uh D, fad or release or whatever you want to call it from the team, and it really was a gut punch to the to the locker room and didn't necessarily take it very well. But once again, just decisions that are made, and those are just tough decisions. And I know that, you know, guys at the front office don't want to make those decisions, but at the end of the day, they're the ones that have to make them. But yeah, our rest of the locker room was they took it hard. I've gotten texts from guys that were on the north Port trip to play the Raves that were, you know, just saying they were bombed and sorry and you know, hope the best and can't wait to see you soon. And so yeah, JT came up to him, was like, yeah, the clubhouse took a big hit today. And not only that, you know that I'm also a good baseball player and help us win performance wise and with helping guys as.

00:15:21
Speaker 5: Far as our pitching staff too.

00:15:22
Speaker 2: But yeah, the clubhouses obviously what I'm gonna miss the most, and I think created a winning helped create a winning for sure.

00:15:31
Speaker 3: Have you talked to Marshawn at all or I didn't see him today?

00:15:35
Speaker 2: Yeah?

00:15:36
Speaker 5: Probably, Yeah, he hadn't seen him this morning either.

00:15:38
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:15:38
Speaker 2: You know, like for me, it's this is Marshaw's a great player, and I hope he goes out there and performs and helps the team win. So I I'll shoot him a text and and wish him nothing but the best, because I know in the past, when I've been in the different situations, I would have loved to get a text like that, you know. So I want him to help this team win, and just like I'll do in Triple A now is get those guys prepared mentally and physically to be able to perform in the bigger rebel.

00:16:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, you did make a point to say that today. Say I hope he goes out and he plays well. I hope he helps the Phillies win some games, because in the end, you want to win. And Dave Dombrowski said this earlier today too, you said it today too.

00:16:17
Speaker 5: You know, I expect to be back at some point this season.

00:16:20
Speaker 3: You know, if it's only September, if everybody stays healthy, and it's only September, it's only September, but you expect to be back, Dave den Browski, expect to be back. So you said, you know, I'm rooting hard for Marshawn to go out and do well.

00:16:34
Speaker 5: Right.

00:16:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, whenever I do get that opportunity to be back, like you said, whether it's during the season or just in September, I want to come into a club that's winning. You know, I've done nothing but be a part of winning teams my entire professional career, college career, high school. I mean, a summer ball all I know is winning. That's like, that's my my bread and butter. That's what I try to do every single day, whether it's in whatever way I can. So I hope to come up to a team that's performing at the highest level.

00:17:08
Speaker 5: And I said it.

00:17:09
Speaker 2: Early in our interview. You know, there's there's there's talent, and there's guys that have a lot of talent, and we have that. You look at a stat sheet and there's not a guy on that team, whether it's the pitching staff or the guys in that lineup that you're not like, holy crap, these guys are unbelievable players, you know. And then there's the winning side of it. And I think that over the last three or four years, we've created that winning park. And I don't know if that's always been here until twenty two, and I know that I had a hand in that, and other guys in the locker room. I could, you know, name guys, but won't. I won't just for the same time. But there's that winning culture piece and when you mesh it two, you get championship teams. And we've had championship teams, even though we've come short of a World Series.

00:17:52
Speaker 3: I mean I see it every day, and I know, like I say this not just for you, but like Schwarber is such a great clubhouse guy.

00:18:00
Speaker 5: You know, Bryce is.

00:18:01
Speaker 3: A leader in a lot of different ways, and you know, just wheels just kind of you know, he's just a presence and you Ala is just great.

00:18:09
Speaker 5: So and I always tell this to people that the whole clubhouse.

00:18:14
Speaker 3: Chemistry thing, I feel like sometimes is really downplayed when people aren't inside and you don't see hard like the kind of the season and whatnot.

00:18:24
Speaker 5: I mean, can you speak to like what what are you kind of most proud of?

00:18:27
Speaker 3: Maybe you know what you've helped instill in that clubhouse over the few years.

00:18:31
Speaker 5: To me, No, you tell me if I'm wrong, But I feel like just.

00:18:36
Speaker 3: First of all, you prepare as well as anybody I talk to, pictures talk about the coaches talk about it.

00:18:41
Speaker 5: But also just like you're upbeat energy. I can't be like you, you know what I mean?

00:18:50
Speaker 3: Like I'm like, is this guy ever come into the ballpark in just a crappy mood?

00:18:54
Speaker 5: Like is there ever a day where it's like I just don't want to talk to anybody? Because I feel that way when I go to.

00:18:59
Speaker 2: The ball and I really don't want to talk to but but you seem to be the opposite like, and I think that helps get these guys through this through a season.

00:19:08
Speaker 5: Sure.

00:19:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, it's not like I have a good day every single day, but I you know, I love what I do and I and I really do wake up in the morning and I'm like, would I want to do anything else today?

00:19:19
Speaker 5: No, absolutely not.

00:19:20
Speaker 2: I want to be playing for the Phillies and I want to help win whatever be whatever team we're playing that day.

00:19:26
Speaker 5: And I think that coming in with a.

00:19:28
Speaker 2: Good attitude about the day is a huge piece of that. And I you know, people have stuff that go on at home. You know, people see players out on the field, But these are human beings who have wives and kids and parents and you know the family aspect of this, and our organization does a great job including all that. But these are human beings that come in with problems, and to be able to separate the two is really tough. And I think that over the years I've helped guys just be at their best every single day and try to help them be the human being rather than the jersey with a number and a performance that they have to go out there and and do for the fans in the city, which comes naturally for a lot of guys. But those other things that off the field, they come into play every single day and not everyone knows that stuff day in and day out.

00:20:17
Speaker 5: But I'd say that, you.

00:20:18
Speaker 2: Know, I'm just I'm most proud of just getting trying to get the best out of each guy every single day and helping that person, whether it be a pitcher or position player, just be at their best for that game.

00:20:31
Speaker 3: I remember Charlie Mannu will obviously say that all the time when he would you would ask him about players and Somebody's like.

00:20:35
Speaker 5: Man, you don't know what just you don't know what's going on at home right now.

00:20:38
Speaker 3: That guy could, you know, have something going on with a parent, or you know, you got into a fight with his girlfriend, or you know, something.

00:20:44
Speaker 5: Going on with one of their kids.

00:20:45
Speaker 3: You have no idea why that guy might be yeah, you know, like yeah.

00:20:50
Speaker 2: The grind of a season and like coming into the ballpark and actually wanting to be there. You know, like there's people that you know, whether it's baseball or something else, you might really like it your job, but if you don't love the people that you're doing it with. It sucks walking into the office, which for us is the stadium every day, and so I, you know, I really enjoy the part of keeping it lighthearted, keeping everyone with a smile on their face so that they can go out there and like be in a good mood to go win a baseball game.

00:21:18
Speaker 3: But you also do you know, you're you're in the pictures, meetings and whatnot, and you prepare these pictures. Can you give people like an idea of how that if you're so you're starting, say you're catching Nola, Yeah, what's that preparation?

00:21:33
Speaker 5: Like when do you start? How long does it take? What are those meetings? Like? Yeah, you guys are on the same page.

00:21:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone sees the.

00:21:40
Speaker 5: Party guy in the lighthearted yea. So they see the Budweiser. Yeah, you're a Halloween costume, a Philly you know.

00:21:48
Speaker 2: What I mean?

00:21:48
Speaker 5: Which is which is me to a t.

00:21:50
Speaker 2: But and my wife likes to say this because she's into the horoscope stuff sometimes and she's a Gemini and I'm a Gemini and she's like, you are a split personality, like no out like tailored definition of Gemini because I have that side that everyone sees on camera. That's the part that the media catches most of the time. But I when it's game time, I am walked in. I am grinder mode. I am what I believe to be Philadelphia, which is just go out there and work your nuts off to get a win that day, no matter what it takes. And that's the part of going in and studying, getting their hours early, being the first one there to make sure your homework's done, making sure Knowles is prepared to whoever's pitching that day, and going out there and going bost the wall to get get a W. So there are those two different people, and when we win, the Budweiser guy gets to come out, but that only happens if the beginning guy takes care of business and goes out there and gets a W.

00:22:51
Speaker 5: I think it was JT was saying, get your opinion on this.

00:22:56
Speaker 3: He said, Nola, he said, Wheels doesn't really do anything as pregame meeting. He kind of relaxed Feels. He said, Noel actually is like surprisingly vocal and yeah, really he's got opinions, Yeah for sure.

00:23:06
Speaker 2: And so there's a conversation that happens about how to get guys out and yeah, Wheels, and there's other guys too that just kind of want to be told what the prep is that day for getting a hitter out.

00:23:17
Speaker 5: But Knowles does his own homework.

00:23:19
Speaker 2: So when we go and have a hitters meeting with with Wheels or somebody like Wheels, it might be a five to ten minute meeting, and with with Knowles it might be a thirty minute because because you you don't always come out with the same answer of how to get a guy out, So you have to work through what you feel is best between the two of you on how you're going to attack them.

00:23:38
Speaker 3: Interesting, so and you also talked about this this morning and how you kind of want to bring You're going to bring that same style, that same preparation down to triple A because you might have you're going to have you know, Nick Vespie and some of these guys that could come up at some point, if it's.

00:23:56
Speaker 5: Kyle Tyler, whoever it might be.

00:23:58
Speaker 3: There's a lot of guys down there, and so when they get the call, because some of them are going to get the call, you want to get them to be as prepared as possible.

00:24:06
Speaker 5: So how do you how do you see that is.

00:24:07
Speaker 3: It possible to prepare the same way in Triple A as it is in the big leagues.

00:24:12
Speaker 5: Is it different? Do you have to adapt?

00:24:13
Speaker 2: Like?

00:24:13
Speaker 5: What's that? What's that like?

00:24:15
Speaker 2: Funny enough, I'm I'm not entirely sure. It's It's been a few years since I've been back, but I think that as far as I've heard, this organization does a really good job of giving the Triple A team the same resources or similar to resources as the big leagues, so that when they come up from Triple A to the big leagues it's a more seamless transition. So I fully plan on those resources being there and then using those resources to show some of those guys how things operate in Philadelphia so that when they do go they have a full expectation of what they're going to be, uh, you know, seeing out of Cougham, out of Lowie, out of JT, so that they can perform at their best because if those things are taken care of, then you can just stop their pitch.

00:25:05
Speaker 5: And same with the position players.

00:25:06
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's different things that happen throughout a day and how the team operates that I feel like a position player would like to know before going up there. But at the end of the day. I you know, down in in piggy Land, we're gonna have a good time. Yeah, we're gonna have We're gonna have fun, and we're gonna win a lot of games. Uh, And get everyone on the mindset of you know, we're here to play for the Phills and whether that be playing and performing to a level where you're a trade piece, or whether you're playing and performing at a levels where they're like, Okay, we want to bring this guy up.

00:25:38
Speaker 5: Whatever that may be.

00:25:39
Speaker 2: You know, the trade piece will still help the Phillies get somebody and that is really important.

00:25:44
Speaker 5: And then performing in order.

00:25:46
Speaker 2: For the team to see you as somebody they want to be in the big legies.

00:25:49
Speaker 3: Also, I would think it's one of the younger guys too, like at one of the younger pitchers, just to have you to kind of bend your ear a little bit, yeah, and talk them up if they're struggling. You know, a guy like Mick Able to me would be a great example. I don't know how much you're going to get to work with him, but you know, former first round pick, you struggle a little bit the past few years. I mean, maybe you can kind of connect with him and pump him up. I mean, that's that's the part.

00:26:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm an open book. I'm an open book, so you know, guys know that about me. So I hope that they feel comfortable and also feel like I am a guy that they want to talk to because they might not want to. You know, I would never push somebody some information that they don't want. You know, if they don't want to know anything then or hear my opinion on something, then that that's all good with me. You know, whatever makes you perform best do that. And I think that for some guys, you know, you just said it right there, make Able former first round er, that's a lot of pressure.

00:26:41
Speaker 5: And I don't know make very well.

00:26:44
Speaker 2: I've known him from a spring training level, so the weeks that we're here, I've gotten to know him, but I don't know what his day to day looks like. So I'll get to know Mick and see kind of hit how he operates, and as well.

00:26:54
Speaker 5: As other guys.

00:26:56
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of talks about some really good players down there that how isn't necessarily panned out or gone to see their talent come to fruition at the big league level, So you know, I think everyone's an individual case, so everyone operates differently, just like they do at the big leag level. You can't treat Bryce Harber the same as Alec Bohm, the same as me, the same as JT.

00:27:19
Speaker 5: That Everyone's got a different personality, So you just feel it.

00:27:21
Speaker 3: Out, do you think, I mean, I guess just you'd rather be up here, You'd rather be JT's back, of course. But now you're going to get to play more regularly. You talked about some swing changes you made in the offseason. I guess that's if the silver lining is it's an opportunity to play regularly. He's pitching and maybe fine tune some of that work. Do you look at that way as well or not?

00:27:43
Speaker 1: Sure?

00:27:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm looking forward to playing, no doubt.

00:27:46
Speaker 2: There's nothing that would create the narrative that I would rather be playing in Triple A than not playing in the big leagues. At any point, you want to be in the big leagues, no matter what the situation is, So I hope to.

00:28:00
Speaker 5: Get back there as soon as possible.

00:28:01
Speaker 2: I also, I am going to take that time playing more to try to refine some of my offense. Playing in consistent playing time is a huge piece of rhythm and hitting. So I'm looking forward. I am looking forward to that, and I think it'll be fun to play with other guys that I've been in the big leagues for quite some time. McCain has been in the big leagues for substantial time. Arroyo, you know, there's other guys.

00:28:28
Speaker 3: I think Arroyo is still here, so right, right, I hope he stays here, right, But.

00:28:32
Speaker 2: You know, there's other guys that have been optioned that I have big league time, So I hope that, you know, we get together and having good time.

00:28:40
Speaker 3: Is it comforting in the sense of just knowing how crazy the season is that you could be back at any point? Does that kind of help you leave the ballpark today going Okay, this is crappy news. I don't want to but I do know it could be three weeks, three months.

00:28:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm gonna I'm gonna look and live in Lehigh. You know, I'm not gonna look too of the anticipation of when am I gonna When am I gonna call up? Because that is a it's slippery slope because you just don't know what's gonna happen. You also don't ever wish for somebody to be injured, which is usually how guys get called up, and especially in my situation. So I'm gonna just live in Lehigh and be focused on what I can do to help Lehigh win and prepare everyone for if that time comes. But I you know, I'm not gonna sit there and just wonder, you know, when my time once my time, because, uh, that can be a dark place at times, and I hope other guys see that when I do get there, so that they just focus on what they can control, which is playing at their best level in that triple A setting.

00:29:49
Speaker 3: Uh.

00:29:49
Speaker 2: And whenever that time does come, I'll be ready in Clieah. You talking about the dark place, man, just does not seem to be the place that you live in very often.

00:29:57
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I'm gonna enjoy it.

00:29:59
Speaker 2: I talked to Ac earlier today and I was like, look, man, you know, I don't think I'm gonna walk into that locker room some MOPI guy, you know, feeling sorry for myself for being in that situation, Like that's not me. I'm never gonna be that person. It's not who I am. I'm gonna go in there and I'm gonna try to win a championship in Lehigh and do all those other things we just discussed.

00:30:20
Speaker 5: So uh, it's I think we're gonna have fun down there.

00:30:24
Speaker 2: I know Triple A is not necessarily a fun place to be, but we're gonna make the best.

00:30:29
Speaker 5: Good luck, man. I hope to see you back soon.

00:30:31
Speaker 3: And yeah, you've always been great to us, and I enjoyed talking to you after the games when you do catch because you always provide great analysis on the guys and and so yeah, I hope to see you back here. Yeah, get back here soon and hope those conversations. Yeah, absolutely, thanks man, I appreciate it. Thanks to thank you again to Garrett Stubbs for the time. Of course, Now Raphael Marshan is going to be JT Real Muto's backup. And if you want to learn more about Marshawn, Jim, you actually just wrote about Marshwan. It was last week, right, just a few days ago for all phl y dot com. A great story. What can you when fans go there to read it? What should they expect to see? What should they what will they learn about Marshawn?

00:31:07
Speaker 4: Did they?

00:31:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know he's a kid.

00:31:10
Speaker 6: Who signed ten years ago as a sixteen year old out of Venezuela. He was a middle infielder, much like Carla Fleruiz, and when the Salagustinelli Phillies international scouts saw him, they didn't think he had a future in the middle of the infield. But you know, they liked so much about his baseball ability. They said, hey, you ever catch? He went behind the plate and he was like a natural.

00:31:31
Speaker 1: So he he's done a great job.

00:31:34
Speaker 6: He's really become a man in the Philly system, having ten years now in the miners, a little bit up and down between Lehigh Valley and the big leagues. He has not taken an apartment in three years. He lives out of a suitcase. He's always been in hotels. He checks in, he checks out when the team was on the road. So now it looks like maybe he can finally get an apartment. But a really interesting kid, amazing the way he has developed up his grasp of the English language. Is a kid who spoke very little English when he came to the States, and he really put a premium on that because he wants to bond with his pitching staff, not just Spanish speakers and he learned a lot of English, he said, watching Gray's Anatomy and listening to the comedy of Kevin Hart. So he gets his chance and once again him and Garrett Stubbs are good friends. And he really in that story he credits He credits Garrett Stubbs for being such a good mentor to him. So, yeah, that's over at all City phl Y.

00:32:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome. So we'll be back next week.

00:32:41
Speaker 3: Phillicia will be back next week, opening days less than a week away. We know you have questions about the Phillies, so shoot us some questions on x Blue Sky, threads, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, shoot us notes. We love answering your questions and Jim, I'll smell you later.

00:32:59
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00:33:00
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00:33:03
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00:33:04
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00:33:05
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