Hour 2 – Sao Paolantonio, Colts Workout Philip Rivers

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Speaker 3: Starter in Seattle.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Albert Breer the Monday Morning quarterback about that possibility. The forty four year old Philip Rivers, who I don't think is played in five years, but that is a desperate team the Colts right now. Poll questions in the first hour were really good, spicy there. You want to clean up the mess there out Seaton and we move on to hour two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Philip Rivers coming back to quarterback the Colts is a great idea or a terrible idea right now. Seventy three percent have that as a terrible idea. That is the correct answer there. And man, they're in trouble. Colts, Chiefs, Eagles, Ravens. It is in that order. Colts, Chiefs, Eagles, Ravens.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It was a feel good story. It doesn't feel so good now with the Colts. They started out seven to one and with the injuries to their quarterbacks with Danny Dimes, Riley Leonard came in former Notre Dame quarterback. He's banged up a little bit, and they play Seattle in Seattle coming up this weekend watching last night, the Chargers defense is what stood out to me. It's really good and just asked Jalen Hurts with four interceptions. Here is Hurts after the game talking about the interception in overtime.

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Speaker 6: I knew it was going to be a tight window throw. I'd have to watch the film to see see it from the eyes of film's point of view. Awtime, it's it's a play that I didn't make. He got to handle the ball.

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Speaker 3: That's a play that we've made.

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Speaker 6: A million times in that scenario versus a cloud corner, and I didn't make that play this time around.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how we're gonna view Jalen Hurts when his career is over, because it could be one of those careers that's similar to Eli Manning, that he might win a couple of Super Bowls.

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Speaker 3: But the regular season numbers are like.

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Speaker 2: Eh okay, and it feels like defenses are saying, let's see if you can beat us.

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Speaker 3: And you would think.

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Speaker 2: With those two receivers in that tight end, he would be able to beat you. But the jury is still out, at least myself my opinion. As much as I like him in a big game and He's shown that he can play in a big game. Both those Super Bowls he played really, really well. It's just there are times when you go, what's missing here. I don't think he's a good pocket passer, a consistent one, but I do think he can come up with big plays and his demeanor is very calm. Those are great attributes to have. At the goal line, he's really good the tush push. You know, the moment is rarely too big for him. But that's why I watch South. Palantonio covers the Eagles among the other teams in the NFL, but he's stationed in Philadelphia and get his thoughts on what is missing with this team? How dangerous can they still be in the NFC playoff? Picture all right eight seven to seven three DP show operators sitting by to take your phone calls. Notre Dame as a press conference in two hours from now based off what happened yesterday, the fallout from that, it feels like something is coming and that was almost like a pre limb to all eyes need to be on this press conference at noon Eastern with Notre Dame. Is this we're taking our balls in going home from the ACC. Do they maybe come up with a partnership with the Big Ten. I'm still waiting for information on this, or at least information I can go with, and everything up until this point has been just speculation. But it felt like permanent damage. Permanent damage was used yesterday by Pete Bovaqua, their athletic director. That sounds like the point of no return. I am still waiting to get more information on what exactly was the acc portion of the College Football Playoff Committee arguing for and against with their own conference, because if Virginia had won, James Madison would have been out of the playoff picture.

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Speaker 3: But Miami is still in over Notre Dame. And I think that's where.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say it one more time so people understand if this was reversed. Just imagine the outcry if Miami was ranked in front of Notre Dame for five weeks and nothing changed, and then all of a sudden, the College Football Playoff Committee says, oh, we put Notre Dame in front of Miami. How would you have reacted? So those of you said, oh, you gave him a free pass. You know, part of being an interviewer is to give somebody an opportunity to speak because the more you talk, the more likely I'm going to get some information here. I'm going to get something that is going to be headline worthy. That's what you want, that's my goal. I don't get caught up in long questions. I want long answers. And Pete gave you something yesterday and it became a headline all across sports. If it had been reversed, what would we be saying about the college football playoffs selection show? It's rigged, it's fixed, Notre Dame the brand, what didn't happen? And I have no problem with Miami being in at all, no issue, But I have a problem that you're going to say, well, last minute, we're just going to have Miami over Notre Dame. And why didn't you do that before? That would have been my only argument. Alabama should have dropped further. In my opinion, I didn't think they look competitive against Georgia. Those are my knocks on this. Now there's other problems I have with this. I'm just curious what is exactly does permanent damage mean with Notre Dame in their relationship with the ACC. Cameron in Indiana, I can what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 7: So Hey, I just wanted to take you back on you guys with that. So I guess my question for you guys would be either the Mothership or the ACC snubbing Notre Dame. Do you guys think this leads to the ACC completely being torn down?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to happen with the ACC. Florida State wanted out. I think that Clemson had some issues. I think I think that there was the concern how does the national media view the ACC and they don't view them anywhere near the SEC or the Big Ten. And I think that there was concern, a worry that are we going to be taken as seriously as some of these other conferences? And the answer is no, you don't, you're not, And then you have this fiasco here as well.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Paulie, and the ACC does not have Clemson barging down the door of the SEC like it did five years ago, which kept it very relevant.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Tony in California, Hi, Tony, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 9: Hey?

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Speaker 10: Good morning Dan, getting up, Good morning, Marmon, beautiful day. Okay, Hey, you know I only call them when I'm super fired up about something, and this goes against one of my life principle of the College Football Committee. Like I've taught my kids, if you're going to make a completely arbitrary, subjective decision, make sure there's an element of cool or adventure.

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Speaker 5: What a miss. They should have bumped up arbitrarily LSU because of the god oday best coach in the country. Send him to Oxford Connor McGregor to be a security guard. Shafts up there, the governor out out on a few people long, you know what I mean? All Right, we win, we take the best ten players back to LSU with us. What we lose in the LSU crazies come out and start calling for Link Kissing's job. What an opportunity at all?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Tony. You know I'm big on content. All right.

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Speaker 2: I just got this from a source, and he says, given that the College Football Playoff Committee has until January twenty third to determine the format, I'd be surprised if anything is.

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Speaker 3: Announced with Notre Dame that's firm today.

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Speaker 2: My source says, I could see them maybe saying they're going to review all options for sixty days.

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Speaker 3: No, once again, that's a trusted source on this.

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Speaker 2: Does Notre Dame say anything that's declarative or do they say we're going to put our relationship now, this is what I would do. I would say, we're going to put our relationship with the ACC under review over the next thirty days. In the new year, we'll announce, you know, because this allows the ACC and Notre Dame to do some backchanneling, to be able to talk this out and can you smooth this over? And if not, then you know, it might be full steam ahead where they go. You know what, We're going to take all of our teams and go to the Big Ten and we're going to make our schedule a little more Big Ten friendly, and then everybody wins as far as Notre Dame of the Big Ten, and the ACC would lose out on Notre Dame when it comes to you know, basketball and the other I think they have twenty four sports that are associated with the ACC. But that's a press conference coming up at noon Eastern, I believe Chris and Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: Hi Chris, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 11: Hey?

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Speaker 9: Dan? I was watching and first of all, thanks you guys provide such entertainment for me in the morning. It's tremendous. But anyways, watching the SEC Nation this weekend, and one of the SEC hosts mentioned that he was speaking with a higher up in the SEC chain and the guy said to him, he goes, what are we doing here? So you know they're they're they're relying on the committee. So maybe I'm thinking SEC goes on their own. All four conferences go on their own. You have your championship weekend with your top four teams like they had last weekend. You take your two winners. SEC goes to the Sugar Bowl. ACC goes to the Orange Bowl, Big twelve down the Cotton Bowl, Big ten to the Rose Bull. You get your champion of each conference there. And then you say, okay, fellas, we're headed to Arizona and we're going to have a final four weekend in Arizona and we'll get a national champion out of it, or you know, two weekends, you can't play day after that. I just think that they want to if you want to get the committee out of the whole count things. Each conference takes on their own their own thing.

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Speaker 2: All right, a lot of scenarios here. Let's decide how many teams we're going to have next year. Because I've heard from staying firm twelve to going to fourteen or going to sixteen. I think it's in a state of flux here. How about we figure that out here. The fact that Notre Dame is locked in if they're ranked twelve or lower or higher, I guess twelve or better, they're in the college football playoffs next year. Where did that come from? So for everybody who says Notre Dame doesn't have any cachet, they just manipulated the system to say we're in it if we're ranked in the top twelve. I know Paul Feinbaum was on the Mothership saying, hey, nobody cares about Notre Dame the way they think they do. I'm paraphrasing, and maybe that's. You know, it's not the way it was when we're growing up. Notre Dame still holds, you know cache they do. They just said to the college Football Playoff Committee, if we're in the top twelve, then we're going to be in the playoffs, and they accepted that. That's when you got some swag. Whether Paul Findbaumb and we reached out to find Bumb. I think he's gonna join us tomorrow on the program. Let me see what else do we have here, Uh, Jeff and Austin. I, Jeff, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 12: Good morning, Dan? Hey can you hear me?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 13: Hey, six to two? And I've always been big bone two sixty five big.

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Speaker 12: And big bone baby, I got it.

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Speaker 13: Me and my buddies came up with a new format for the college playoffs. How about we we canceled the championship games, the conference championship games, and on that Saturday, have the first four, the last four in and the first four out play each other. So you'd have Notre Dame versus James Madison Texas versus you know whoever the other small ones were.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and have.

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Speaker 13: Them for play on that Saturday, and whoever wins those four are in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Well, I gotta be careful of how many games I'm asking these college kids to play as well.

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Speaker 3: But thank you.

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Speaker 2: Everybody seems to have an answer for the format, except for the people are supposed to have an answer for the format, and the College foot No Playoff Committee.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Paulie, I got a little more from a person who knows exactly The agenda today is Notre Dame press conference. Nothing is being announced today at the not Dayme press conference. This was a scheduled press conference, and they did this last year end of the season press conference. It happened a little earlier than they expected. It's a they do it every year to end the regular season. I'll talk about the football program, the contract of the coaches, and they will touch on the ACC topics some more.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, Marvin, do you think other schools like Notre Dame that have national championship aspirations or expectations will if they don't make the playoffs, they won't go into a bowl game going forward.

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Speaker 2: I wonder about the future bowl games. I do, and that's why I brought it up yesterday. Can you see a scenario where bull season is not at the end of the year, it's at the beginning of the year. Therefore, you're guaranteed great matchups. We can also get matchups where you're going to play a quality opponent to start the year, and then all of a sudden, you know you're playing games in September and weather won't be an issue. I just I wonder if that's now you could have back end bowl games. But as far as the big bowl games, and I know there's a lot of you know, obstacles here hurdles here. But if you want to save the bowl games, you might have to flip the script here and have them to start the year. You know, when the ACC plays the Big Ten in basketball, like, we don't even blink with that. It's like, those are great matchups beginning of the year. Now, granted you're playing thirty games, you strength the schedule and all to those, you know, playing somebody, beating somebody, or even if you lose to somebody on a neutral site, you know, it doesn't damage you the way it might in college football. But at least you're going to save the bowl games. They're going to mean something because if you add Notre Dame playing in the Pop Tart Bowl, you got the best running back in college football who wouldn't play, Jeremiah Love and probably three or four or five other Notre Dame players and maybe some players from BYU. You know, that's the problem that I have with this. If you're going to have the bowl games, you want to have a decent representation of that school. And I don't blame these kids if they're going to sit out. You know, when Christian McCaffrey and Leonard Fournette did, oh my god, what are you doing to your teammates. You've done everything you could up to untill that year, that part of the season, and now you're playing in the Sun Bowl. I'm okay if you're going to sit this one out because you're going to play in the NFL. You've done everything you can for the school. But I do wonder about the future of bowl game. Sir, all right, we'll take a break. South palm Antonio stops by. How concerned is he with the way the Eagles played last night? The way the Eagles have been playing and do they have that ability to be able to flip the switch?

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Speaker 2: Reggie Miller will join us a little bit later on Albert Breer The Monday Morning Quarterback will stop by, and the decorated ESPN national correspondent South Palantonio covering the NFL joining us on the program. Salthpal give me one word to describe the Eagles performance last.

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Speaker 3: Night, regressing why, well, you know, Jalen.

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Speaker 15: Hurts didn't see wide open receivers once again, and his interceptions I thought were totally avoidable. Let's just go to the last one in overtime. He flushes to his right. Now, listen, this drive in overtime was a thing of beauty by the offense and Jalen Hurts. It was an example, an illustration of the good, the bad, and the ugly of this offense this year. So they're driving down the field on the under duress in overtime to try to win the football game when they couldn't get it out of their own way. He's got them on a first and ten. The Chargers have been flushing him out of the pocket all game long, he's flushed to his right Dallas Goddard, who has been his security banket all game. Dan is sitting there eight yards downfield, wide open, and instead Jalen Hurts tries to thread the needle to the goal line area. To Johann Dotson, ball is tipped and picked game over. That play, to me is indicative from what I see in that drive, and that play is indicative of what I think the Eagles could be and what they have become.

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Speaker 2: How dangerous are they here trying to regroup with the final month of the regular season.

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Speaker 15: Well, they're in survival mods. I don't know about regroup. They're in survival mode. They got four games left. They start with the Raiders, which is an absolute stone cold Locke must win football game at home after losing three in a row, and then the Commanders twice, but the Bills sandwiched in between on the road in Buffalo. So clearly they must win three out of four. But you know, they got to get it right with Jalen Hurts. So Nick Sirianni, as Tim McManus, my colleague on ESPN dot com reported earlier in the week, finds himself now in the offensive meeting rooms for the first time, giving his input more and more to the offense. Question of course being begged, what took so long?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 15: Why are we waiting until after two losses when the offense could get out of its way against Detroit and Green Bay and Chicago. So there's that Why did you take so long to give your input? Stick your nose in there? And then after he does, Jalen Hurts has his worst game as a pro, throws four interceptions. Last time that's happened for an Eagles quarterback was Donovan McNabb nineteen ninety nine, when don of McNabb was a rookie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's such a conundrum because, as I've mentioned, if it's a big game in the bright lights, Jalen Hurts has played extremely well. It's just we're going to look at his regular season and its numbers and go why, But you look at the postseason and you go, is that the same guy? Why do we have this dichotomy of regular season postseason with him?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 15: I think there's a couple of things for this year. Let's just focus on this particular year where they are right. You know, last night they were missing their best offensive lineman Lane Johnson, their best defensive lineman, Jalen Carter. They turned the ball over five times and they were still in position to win it in overtime. So that's the big picture. That's also the little picture, which is they've had a lot of moving parts on the offensive line. But hey, so did the Buffalo Bills when they went to the Akersher Stadium two weeks ago without their two starting offensive tackles. They put two tight ends on the right side seven plays in a row and ran James Cook flushing him out one on one with the corner, and they piled up big yards in the running game.

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Speaker 16: So you can't adjust.

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Speaker 15: Next man up is the concept in the NFL if you do it right, But the Eagles haven't gotten it right yet. With their offensive line hurt Lane Dickerson leaves the game, that's also an issue. But here's the bottom line. They threw it forty times last night, only ran at twenty five against the two deep safety zone defense that kills the passt game. The Chargers were number two against the pass. Why are you throwing it forty times. That's on the coaches, that's on the quarterback, that's on Petullo Sirianni and Jalen Hurts. He has the ability to go a lot of scrimmage and check with me and hand it the Saquon. Everybody's wondering why at Sekon do wells so well last night? Well, because the Chargers let you run the ball if you want to.

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Speaker 16: Troy Aikman had a great breakdown late in the game. Saquon goes into the a gap. If he had just gone to the outside to the decap which was wide open, he had clear sailing to a linebacker in a safety.

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Speaker 15: So part of it is on Saquon. And this is a running team and the other guy who's not running well, Dan is the quarterback, whether he's choosing not to or they don't have enough design runs for him.

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Speaker 16: Can this be fixed?

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Speaker 15: Absolutely, can be fixed in time for this week. Can it be salvaged for a Super Bowl run?

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Speaker 16: Not sure?

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 2: Talking to South Palmerantonio, ESPN national correspondent covering the NFL, Philip Rivers may be coming back. I'm wondering what does that do for his Hall of Fame candidacy. Do they start the clock like he's eligible for Hall of Fame discussion? But if he comes back and starts to play again. Just the clock reset.

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Speaker 16: That's a good question. I'm on the committee, and I don't know the answered.

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Speaker 3: No question.

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Speaker 16: That wasn't the question I thought you were going to ask me. I thought you were going to ask.

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Speaker 15: Me, how in the world can a guide come back to the league at age forty four after half.

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Speaker 16: A decade of being with his kids and his family.

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Speaker 15: And I love Philip Rivers, great family and devoted to his children.

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Speaker 16: But now he's being.

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Speaker 15: Enticed to come back by his friends in Indianapolis. And that's all good. And we've seen what's happened with Aaron Rodgers. Know what kind of shape Philip Rivers in. I'm sure they're checking him out. I hope he comes back. It'll be a great story. It tells the story not only of where Indianapolis is, but where the NFL is on the quarterback position, right, So we'll see what happens with Philip Rivers. He's on the bubble. You know, we voted last year and Eli Manning didn't get in. I voted for Eli Manning. I'm a big, big supporter of Elton. You went two Super Bowl MVPs short list, got to get in, didn't get in. Philip Rivers is maybe Dan a notch below Eli Manning, Drew Brees will get in this year most likely. Hope he does. I will vote for him. And then there's Eli and Philip Rivers and let's not forget about Big Ben. So that's the you know, the pipeline of quarterbacks with Hall of Fame. So Philip Rivers is in the conversation, but not at the top of the conversation.

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Speaker 3: Ben Jen correct, you would think so for sure.

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Speaker 15: I mean, you know, I was talking to Merrill Hodge. We used to be together on the NFL Matchup show. Merrill used to play in Pittsburgh. You know, he's got, as I used to say on the show, take the black and gold underwear.

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Speaker 16: Off once in a while. So but he loves Big Ben and so to why.

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Speaker 15: And the thing is, when you look at Ben, he raised the level of everybody around him.

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Speaker 16: For a lot of reasons. Strong arm, that mobility.

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Speaker 15: Early in his career, I remember Bill Parcells talking about the fact that Big Ben was like a you know, oak Tree on roller skates. You couldn't bring him down. Great mobility in the pocket, terrific accuracy, and he's got the titles and the numbers.

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Speaker 16: So short answer, yes, that was my long answer.

00:26:55
Speaker 2: Sorry man, what's Matthew Stafford's resume missing anything in your opinion for Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 15: Not missing anything? Okay, Matthew Stafford's a Hall of Famer.

00:27:08
Speaker 3: No doubt, no doubt. First ballot.

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Speaker 16: Tough. It's always tough first ballot.

00:27:15
Speaker 15: You know we're talking Peyton Manning, Brett Fire, John Elway, I'm in.

00:27:20
Speaker 16: Are you that guy? Probably not, but he gets in.

00:27:26
Speaker 2: Chris Sims brought up the analogy with Josh Allen that he is the modern day John Elway.

00:27:32
Speaker 3: What do you think of that?

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Speaker 16: I like it. I like that analogy quite a bit close.

00:27:38
Speaker 15: But no cigar super strong arm can put on the cape take over.

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Speaker 16: A football game.

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Speaker 15: Go back and just watch just some of the highlights we throw in the old twenty two if you like to, like I did, of just a Bill's offense, because I'm doing Bill's at Patriots in Foxborough first time. I'm going back to Patriot Place by away since Tom Brady left, and why wouldn't you This is a huge game. But go back and look at the Bills offense, especially in the second half, in the driving snow.

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Speaker 16: Right and Josh Allen three touchdown.

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Speaker 15: Passes runs for another one, the longest touchdown run of his career in the drive in snow.

00:28:23
Speaker 16: What a performance by Josh Allen.

00:28:26
Speaker 2: Good to catch up with you again. I like when you're fired up there. Thank you for joining us, Sal, Dan.

00:28:32
Speaker 16: You get me fired up, Dan.

00:28:36
Speaker 3: Then mission accomplished. Thank you, Sal.

00:28:40
Speaker 2: South Palatonio, ESPN national correspondent covering the NFL.

00:28:45
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know if I ever told Sal.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I did, but there was a moment on the six o'clock Sports Center when I realized that I shouldn't be doing Sports Center anymore. I threw it out to South Palatonio. I think we started the show, and you know, we went out to Supau for something breaking with the NFL, and I just I remember doing it and Sal's talking. I don't know if I'm even listening, and I'm going, I shouldn't be doing this. I'm not any good at this. I don't want to do this anymore. And it was just weird. Then Sal goes back to you, Dan, I go, thank you so, and then just went about my business.

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Speaker 3: There.

00:29:22
Speaker 2: Did I tell you that sound that I threw it out to you? And I decided nothing to do with your reporting. But I in that moment as you're talking, I was like, I'm done with doing Sports Center?

00:29:34
Speaker 3: What am I doing? I'm an old man here.

00:29:37
Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 15: I get that all the time at home doing Sports Center and nobody's.

00:29:41
Speaker 3: Listening, thank you.

00:29:46
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was just one of those real moments live TV and I'm going, I am the old guy here. Everybody else is gone or they're doing specialized shows, and.

00:29:57
Speaker 3: What am I doing. I'm fifty years of a and I'm doing Sports Center. Yes, Tom, that's an extremely honest thing. He just shared.

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Speaker 14: A lot of people fake it or would never admit that they were had their mind elsewhere in the middle of a national broadcast.

00:30:08
Speaker 3: So that's pretty cool.

00:30:09
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. There are times when you daydream. That's why I've asked golfers before, like, you're in a big moment, do you ever daydream?

00:30:16
Speaker 3: Do you ever?

00:30:17
Speaker 5: Like?

00:30:17
Speaker 3: Why is this thought in my head?

00:30:19
Speaker 11: You know?

00:30:20
Speaker 2: You have the famous Joe Montana in the Super Bowl against the Bengals where he's trying to calm his team down and he goes, oh, and he's telling his offensive lineman, is that John Candy over there in the uh in the stadium and you know, just random things. But yeah, that that did come to mind. I throw it and south peal Antonio joins us, I throw it out. I go, God, I am what am I doing?

00:30:47
Speaker 3: What am I doing? Thank you?

00:30:48
Speaker 2: So coming up cors light six pack of questions or whatever we would do back then? Yeah, yeah, of course, you know it'd be uh due Johnny good times. Johnny Clayton would join us, or the Salisbury against John Clayton.

00:31:06
Speaker 3: That was the duo right there. They went out of each other.

00:31:10
Speaker 2: Dustin in Ohio, Hi, Dustin, what's on your mind today?

00:31:16
Speaker 3: Hey, Dustin Boltay, Yeah, okay.

00:31:19
Speaker 12: Dustin in Alabama. But that's all right, roll ti Hey. Two quick comments and then a question regarding my Saints. One the comment I really love yesterday's interviews and all in the possibility of moving the Bowl games at the beginning of the season. You know, you kind of already got Labor Day weekend built in there where you could stretch out, say twenty thirty big games over four or five days, put them in cities that probably are normally too cold to have Bowl games anyways, So I love that idea to.

00:31:52
Speaker 5: The game last night.

00:31:53
Speaker 12: You know, the strip is already written for a coach named Nick in overtime to win with Devonte Smith on the field, and the answer to win that game is your bench. Jalen, you put into a how was at that?

00:32:04
Speaker 11: Now?

00:32:04
Speaker 3: Thank you? Thank you? Dustin, Dustin not from Ohio, Dustin from Alabama. We'll take a break.

00:32:11
Speaker 2: The Philip Rivers question that I surprise Soupal who is a voter for the Hall of Fame. If you come back to play, do then we have to reset the clock for you to be eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

00:32:24
Speaker 3: That'll keep you in your seat. We're back after this.

00:32:27
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00:32:39
Speaker 2: The Philip Rivers Hall of Fame status. If he comes back, does he do they reset the clock if he plays in a game suits up for a game with the Colts.

00:32:49
Speaker 8: There's some nuance to it. So Rivers is a semifinalist for the Class of twenty twenty six, the upcoming class. Oh, he's just months away from either being in or waiting another year.

00:33:00
Speaker 3: Okay.

00:33:01
Speaker 8: According to the Hall of Fame. If Rivers assigned to the active roster, his Hall of Fame eligibility resets. It would need to be out another five years before he's looked at. If he assigned to the practice squad, it doesn't affect his Hall of Fame status. So active roster, whether he takes a snap or not, resets his status.

00:33:21
Speaker 3: Can he get what if he plays in the game this weekend.

00:33:24
Speaker 8: He's reset new clock five years. He would now be up for the Class of twenty thirty one.

00:33:29
Speaker 3: I think, But he's a semi finalist this year.

00:33:32
Speaker 8: Yes, but it hasn't been decided yet. It's like if he joins the active roster for the Colts or another team, he takes his name off the twenty twenty six Hall of Fame ballot.

00:33:43
Speaker 3: Yes, time, that seems terribly unfair.

00:33:45
Speaker 7: I don't like that.

00:33:46
Speaker 14: You'd get more and more forgotten over time, and then there's new writers that are voting on the I don't.

00:33:51
Speaker 3: Hey, he could be adding to his resume. Well, he could be taken away from it like Russell Wilson has.

00:33:54
Speaker 8: Yes, Paul, this is absolutely a great thing for Phil Rivers because let's say he goes to the Hall of Fame in twenty thirty one, all his kids will be grown up and they could be there, and about six or seven more grand kids can attend.

00:34:04
Speaker 3: But is he playing his way out? We just I don't know.

00:34:07
Speaker 8: His last year with the Colts, he was eleven and five as a starter and he had like twenty seven touchdowns. He was not limping to the finish. I mean he was technic figuratively.

00:34:16
Speaker 2: Uh, who is more? Hall of Fame ply has two candidates.

00:34:21
Speaker 8: Yeah, we haven't played this in a while. Based off these stats, who should go in the Hall of Fame? First quarterback one one's seventeen and one seventeen as a starter, two super Bowl wins, eight total playoff wins, six total playoff appearances, three hundred and sixty six touchdowns, two hundred and forty four picks, fifty seven thousand career yards.

00:34:41
Speaker 3: So Eli Manning correct.

00:34:43
Speaker 8: Quarterback two one sixty five and eighty one in the regular season, two super Bowl wins, thirteen playoff wins, twelve playoff appearances, four and in eighteen yards I'm sorry touchdowns, two hundred and eleven picks, sixty four thousand yards. Would you agree that quarterback two is way way way more Hall of faming based off the stats. Yeah, that's Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah, it doesn't feel like he's as automatic as Elias and well conversation.

00:35:17
Speaker 2: It feels like we're talking about Eli because we're not sure. I don't I haven't heard anybody say, you know, I don't know if Ben's a Hall of Famer. With Eli, it feels like I don't know if he's a Hall of Famer. Feels like Ben is a yeah, hall of Famer. Yeah, Eli, It's like, I don't know, so Ben's assumed. Yeah, I would put him in over Eli in a second.

00:35:38
Speaker 8: He might be underrated because his Super bowls happened so early in his career.

00:35:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he didn't get credit for the first one as much, and Jerome Bettis talked about that on the show. You know, Ben, they kind of won maybe in spite of him, Yes, Seon.

00:35:52
Speaker 4: That's the problem with getting them early is that then you never get back there. That's becomes a storyline. Well, they got them early. He never got back there though, or know, never got another one.

00:36:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are big numbers though, you know, the four hundred touchdowns only two one hundred and eleven picks two super Bowl victories, twelve playoff wins. You know those are big numbers. But I haven't heard anybody go. I don't know if Ben is.

00:36:19
Speaker 3: We have.

00:36:20
Speaker 2: We've spent time, We've spent shows on Eli Manning. Is he a Hall of Famer?

00:36:25
Speaker 3: And I don't think he is.

00:36:28
Speaker 2: But I think the two super Bowl wins against the Patriots puts you win because you're an average quarterback. He had two magical years. Now, he's durable, he played all the time, he played in New York. You're famous family, I understand all of that. But you know you're you're going to put him in based off two seasons because that's what the bottom line. You won two super Bowls and he did, and he played really well in those Super Bowls, really well, big time, and you beat Brady and you beat Belichick.

00:37:00
Speaker 14: Yes, Mark, you mean two postseasons because they barely got into play those two years.

00:37:05
Speaker 3: Right, that's it. I think those were the only postseasons that he was in.

00:37:09
Speaker 8: Now, Eli made six playoff appearances. He only won games.

00:37:15
Speaker 2: That in the two years. Yes, Okay, let's see, uh goebes in Plymouth. I don't know if I pronounced that right, You got it?

00:37:26
Speaker 9: Perfect.

00:37:27
Speaker 3: Okay, what's on your mind?

00:37:29
Speaker 5: Hey?

00:37:30
Speaker 17: I was listening to your interview with Pete bakubat Notre Dame yesterday and he said that they signed a letter of memorandum understanding that if Notre Dame is ranked twelfth or higher next year, that they automatically get in.

00:37:44
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:37:44
Speaker 17: Well, last year Alabama was controversially left out of the playoffs, and I was wondering if Alabama had the same kind of agreement.

00:37:54
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm going to get some of my best people on that. I think that's a fair question to ask because Notre Dame, for some reason, are they the only ones who got this? If you're in the top twelve, you're in the postseason. I'm shocked that the College Football Playoff Committee would agree to that. I got maybe somebody can explain that to me. We're like Jara, we'll sign that, you will?

00:38:19
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:38:24
Speaker 2: What else do we have here? Steven Wyoming? Hi, Steve, what's on your mind today?

00:38:29
Speaker 5: Hey?

00:38:29
Speaker 8: Dan?

00:38:29
Speaker 3: How are you go?

00:38:31
Speaker 11: What are the touchback on what Paul talked about baboheads last hour? I can give you a little information as a guy who is a collector for many decades, So they go back to babbleheads select the seventeen sixties when the Chinese were making them and they were imported into Europe, and then fast forward to the early sixties they started baseball starting and making them out.

00:38:58
Speaker 3: Of paper mache.

00:39:00
Speaker 11: They had originally four player players, and there's only four that were really the original ones. It was Maris mantel May's and Clemente, and then later they had variations of white base and gold base, and depending on the variations, they could be worth many hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars. In fact, they even had dark face dolls they're called dolls, and those were much more rare, were not collected as well, and if you were fortunate enough to find one in a box somewhere, those could be worth thousands of dollars. Then they rolled out the miniatures which had a magnet on the bottom, and those were what we used to put on our dashboards back in the seventies.

00:39:51
Speaker 3: If you recall that, what is the most valuable modern day bobble.

00:39:56
Speaker 11: Head, The most valuable would the Clemente.

00:40:05
Speaker 3: Back in that era. Modern day I don't know.

00:40:07
Speaker 11: I never collected. I don't really collect her. Modern day bobbleheads. It became so prolific. But I got one other quick question for you, Dan, do you recall this back Game one two thousand and two. You and I met outside at a beer kiosk at Anaheim Stadium and I bought your beer, and I was wondering, what you think the chances are of you and I getting together for a beer the Angels World Series before our days on this planet are done.

00:40:35
Speaker 2: Well, we might get together for a beer. It won't be for an Angel's World Series. But Paullie, remember I told you about Steve.

00:40:42
Speaker 3: He's at the kiosk.

00:40:43
Speaker 8: He said he's a great guy.

00:40:44
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:40:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, I met Steve. I was at the World Series and he got me a beer. Yeah, and uh yeah, of course I'll never forget that.

00:40:53
Speaker 3: Thank you, Steve. A History of the Bobbleheads. Bob Head.

00:40:59
Speaker 2: Albert Breer gonna join us talk about Philip Rivers coming back Monday Morning Quarterback, and Reggie Ala wishes Miller Junior the Third. We'll stop by as well. Two hours in the books, only one more to go on this Tuesday. Todd Seaton, Marv Paul Yours truly back after this