Best of the Bus: Sam Darnold Opens Up About Jets, Panthers, & What It's Like Playing With Cam Newton

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Speaker 1: So keep it up, keep going, love you, big hugs, tiny kisses, keep it up, Sam Donald, let's rip all. Yeah, we're already in the same you know, this is actually my first time doing a podcast by myself. Not by myself, but like with somebody it's not Will Yeah, I could say I'm a little nervous right now. A man of your stature, We'll be all right, man, who's making news around the league everywhere right now?

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Speaker 2: Really, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I've read a couple of things I'm saying, pay attention, So you don't pay attention to anything. No, I feel like that's a load of bullshit. Really absolutely, so you don't see any of the stuff people are saying. Things going on. It's not a healthy thing. But at the same time, it's like one of those deals, swear ye kind of forced to watch them.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's why it's cool when it gets brought up in person. Then they're like, exactly like you just did. Yeah, actually, no, I don't know any news that's come out about me. Yeah, you can fill me in on everything.

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Speaker 1: We'll have to in a little bit for sure. We're actually going right now too. By the way, Welcome to Busting with the Boys, outstanding citizen with us today, third overall pick in the twenty eighteen draft, Sam Donald, please give him a round of applause. Voice Electro Stack to have him on charismatic individual. I've actually met him once before. If you guys didn't know this, at the Rebel Ranch right, yep, we went. We were boozing together one day. Not a whole lot of boozing, but there were a couple of drinks passed around. Did you like the place?

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Speaker 2: It was great? Yeah, live music all the.

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Speaker 1: Brad Burberry right, yeah, he came up and how do you guys know each other? Same class here, Brad. Yeah, it's all the same thing to me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, he's a he's a great dude. We just connected through really our agency really just people that we know and then actually alignment that's on our team Pad offline is boys with him. Yeah, through like training and stuff. So uh but yeah, they're all great.

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Speaker 2: Dudes, you know.

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Speaker 1: Right, Hey, the Salt of the Earth Cats And so you guys came up to Kve Creek. What brought you guys up there?

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Speaker 2: Where were we that bar? Buffalo Chip?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, outstanding there.

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Speaker 2: So we had a night out in Buffalo Chip and it was great.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys watch the bull riding and everything. Yeah, it's awesome. Give me one seconds. I'm already leaking. Boys, Holy shit, don't look at that. Don't look at it. Hey, what did JP watch yourself? Now?

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Speaker 2: I know?

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Speaker 1: Hey, sometimes you're sitting down in that chair a little bit and it's like, oh, the tarfs comes off a little bit. You guys, was the Buffalo Chip you saw bull writing, bull riding, the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Little line dancing is well, you know how to line dance? Don't know, but I tried. I tried really hard, and that's all that matters is the effort. Effort, Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: What So did you learn? You learn how two? Step two?

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Speaker 2: I've learned in the past.

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Speaker 3: Just when I when we started line dancing and it wasn't going my way, Yeah, I just kind of stepped to the side, no doubt, just started, you know, doing my thing back and forth.

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Speaker 1: That middle school thing. We kind of peer back and forth or staring at the other girls and we're waiting who's gonna make a move first type of deal.

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Speaker 3: And then at Buffalo Chip, I feel like there were a lot of pros yeah out that night. Yeah, then you get down out there, dude. I give you a little hint online dancing. And this might just be my opinion, but I feel like you leave line dancing for the ladies, right. They go out there, they get in their lines, they enjoy themselves and do all that two step in where it's at.

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Speaker 1: It was out Uh, I was. I was actually in Arizona this weekend, and I have a buddy out there. Bo Campbell guy can absolutely two step with the best. When he's stolen women around. There's no gravity when it comes to that man dancing. It's it's outstandless. Got way too drunk. I had no idea. It was one of those little Sipper deals and it would just it turned on me real fast. It's not about me, this is about you.

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Speaker 2: Now. Let's keep going.

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Speaker 1: Now, let's just talk about it. Let's keep the trade. Mell. Let's go to high school. I went to Chaparral High School. I went to Michigan. But you went to high school and you didn't just play football basketball player too.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Was there ever a point in your life where you're like, I want to do basketball instead of football?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, early on, I say, uh, I would say basketball is probably my first love Kobe growing up. The man my dad is a huge Lakers fan, obviously turned me into a Lakers fan as well. You know, even when the Lakers weren't winning a ton, he was so fun to watch. I mean just you know, it would it could be middle of season, regular season game and he'd be going all out, like they could be losing by twenty and he'd be playing in the.

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Speaker 2: Last few minutes of the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: It was just like, you know, and I didn't even really recognize that as a young kid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but i mean, get older, you appreciate a way more.

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Speaker 2: Huerca hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: So it was just, yeah, didn't even didn't even realize that at the time, but he was such an inspiration for me and you know, I'm sure a lot of other kids. But it was fun to watch grow up and watch that, and so that's kind of how I fell in love with basketball, and then uh yeah, just ended up loving it and then starting to get into football a little bit later on, like third grade, and uh just played I played basketball, football, and baseball. Those are like the three that I just rotated around. Yeah, throughout my childhood growing up and really throughout until freshman year. Of high school and then uh, I played basketball up until my senior year of high school and that was the last year I played basketball.

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Speaker 1: So you didn't do any pickups at USC or any thing like that.

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Speaker 2: We did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but another rest or whatever, dunk on some little nerds.

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Speaker 3: Nothing'll work out in yeah, off season grind yeah, no question boys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was, I cannot play basketball all but all the boys would go out there, hang out and play basketball there though. Yeah, I'll get no easy buckets. Yeah, no easy buckets. Yeah, absolutely, past it back and forth, over and over again. Invent the alley oop. Yeah, it's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you would, you would throw it though you're not dunking though, No.

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Speaker 1: I can I get. I used to be able to. I don't know if I can dunk anymore. The boy had a thirty and a half. Okay, you know that little vert was kind of nice, yeah, or in mind it was just like twenty five twenty six bad. Yeah. I was looking at on the Wikipedia pan.

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Speaker 2: I'm on one one one foot jumper.

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Speaker 1: We were in the same forty as well, did we? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Go ahead? Yeah, well, well you know it's in the beginning of this whole thing. Well, you know what was what was the ten? What was the split? One?

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Speaker 1: Matter one six four?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably fastened me too, but you don't.

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Speaker 1: You don't got to run that fast. You kind of got wheels, so you did. Like Pat Mahomes, You guys can get around a little bit. Yeah yeah, game speed, yeah yeah. And so when you went to USC, you were going there to play linebacker? No, you they wanted you to play linebacker at first.

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Speaker 3: So I got recruited. So there was some old lineman. I don't know if you know the name Kyle Murphy or Josh Garnett.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know those names.

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Speaker 3: No, So they went to Stanford played lineman. He was a left tackle at Stanford, but they went to my high school or sorry, Cayl. Murphy went to my high school, not Josh, but uh. And then Sean Harlowe. Do you know that name at all? Place for the Falcons Oregon State?

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Speaker 1: Do we know the name back there? Boys? If it's not forty nine ers plus?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 3: I mean, both really good prospects out of same high school. So we had some you know, packed twelve schools that would come around, and they recruited me and but at the time, I was playing linebacker and receiver my sophomore year, and and uh I remember Oseron.

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Speaker 2: Oseron had like one of the little film cameras.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, uh and he was like filming me doing linebacker drills. And I was like, I thought this guy was was here for you know, the scene yours who are getting recruited to play to play at see And he was just like, no, like I want to film this dude, Darnald, Like he looks like he's he's got some athletic ability. And I was like a buck, you know, buck ninety at the time, same same height. I was tall early on, but uh yeah, I was a skinny, skinny little linebacker who just get tossed around.

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Speaker 2: By left tackles in our league.

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Speaker 3: But I was playing like three four, uh like Sam or no Will at the time. So I was like kind of on the line of scrimmage trying to fight off tight ends and tackles when they were trying to run block.

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Speaker 2: So that was fun at one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there were kids that there were like tackles and guards that were bushing three hundred in our league.

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Speaker 1: Really, yeah, for sure. Yeah, California's got a good ball out there. A lot of people like to shoot on California. But it's a fad of the deal.

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Speaker 2: People do like to show on California.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people in this bus actually, Oh really in California?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Who is that? We want to point fingers?

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Speaker 2: No, we're not pointing fingers, but in this general areas or in this general area. No, it's in this general area.

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Speaker 1: Tea. We'll leave it. Yeah, fair enough to you with three letters. Shit on California ball, it's like a top five, top five state. You gotta he just talks a lot about SEC and where you're from. Team it means a little bit more. Oh you're from here, you're a balls guy. Gotta respect the balls. Their fan base is out of control. Their fan base is insane. Michigan. Michigan beat the Balls in basketball to go to the Sweet sixteen. And I put out one tweet of Juwan Howard slapping the tea and holy shit. Now, obviously most of my followers are Tennessee fans living in Tennessee. But it was a bloodbath. They remind me of the Buffalo Bills, that Bill's mafia. You got that tea mafia out there. But but California. Do is they written now California, Ohio, Georgia, Alabama, Florida? Is that the top five? Or Pennsylvania too? That's another one. He can't sleep on that team. Yeah, Louisiana is like that. I don't even know that that's recent though, that's pretty recent. So when ozeron cam had this little cam corder on you, filming you up when you're a buck ninety, did you think to yourself, Oh, I'm going to the league now.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I had no idea, dude.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I didn't really know what a scholarship offer was until I got offered my first one.

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Speaker 1: Who was your first offer?

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Speaker 2: A University of Utah?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Hell yeah, you dude, absolutely yeah.

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Speaker 2: So they offered me after my sophomore year.

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Speaker 3: I played like two games at the end of the season at quarterback because the starter got hurt, and they offered me based on some tape that they saw those two games. And then I've liked some drills that I did for him during the spring. Crazy yeah, And so he offered me the scholarship. He was like, hey, man, like, we want to offer you a scholarship to play football at the University of Utah and I was like, okay at quarterback after two games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was like okay, cool.

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Speaker 3: You know, I didn't really know like what it entailed or like he was like you pretty excited about it or you just I was just very like kind of monotone, like, yeah, I'm very excited, thank you, coach, Like can't wait to you know, continue talking to you whatever. And he goes and tells my parents, Like right after that, I just see my mom melt.

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Speaker 2: She's just crying, yeah, everywhere.

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Speaker 3: And I'm just like, I think this is a little bit bigger deal than I than I thought, right, And so they're like yeah, Like my dad kind of explained it to me in the in the head coach. He was just like, dude, you're like, you're going to get offered like full tuition to go to the school just to play ball and like potentially have a chance.

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Speaker 2: At going to the league.

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Speaker 1: That's incredible.

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Speaker 3: And so I don't know, I think it was kind of cool to, you know, live my entire kind of childhood and my high school life not really knowing what you know, I was necessarily going for, you know, I wasn't ever trying to get an offer, you know, but it just it just happened.

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Speaker 1: And so when you were growing up playing ball, you never thought I'm going to be an NFL football player. Someday I'm gonna be NBA basketball player or MLB.

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Speaker 3: You always I always dreamed of playing in professional sports, yeah and something, but I didn't know necessarily kind of the steps to get there. I was just like, oh, I want to play I want to play professional ball.

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Speaker 2: Do something. And uh so I.

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Speaker 3: Was just like, dang, like, you know, I guess the next step would be called yeah.

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Speaker 1: High school, right right? Yeah, that's so. Usually football is just a segular line trajectory of where you're gonna go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: So uh yeah, So I got offered and I was yeah, after they kind of you know, told me what it was and what was going on. Then, uh they told me they're just like I was just you know, so happy, so happy about you know, the situation. And it's funny like once you get that first offer, I mean you know how it is, it just starts rolling in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you got on your sophomore year. That's kind of is that a normal? One guy that dude from Michigan he got won in eighth grade, which is kind of while, did you have an kids at your school that were getting offers like that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean oh not my no, no, no, not in my high school. But obviously, you know, you got guys. He got guys, and you know, like David Sills, who now plays receiver I think for the Giants. He played at West Virginia, I believe, and uh he was like one of the top recruited kids in California to play quarterback and ended up getting offered in seventh grade I believe, by like Lane Kiffin at SC Yeah, and uh it was insane.

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Speaker 1: It is zero puba care on his body, and he's just they're just gonna all of a sudden give him an.

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Speaker 2: Hey that's you know, he might have he might have.

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Speaker 1: You know some seventh graders did. Yeah. You know Luke Stedman when I was in middle school, okay, was a hosts. He had a receding hairline at twelve years old. It was unbelievable. So you get you get the utes, and so you're kind of like, hey, I guess I'm just going to college now this is gonna happen. What happened after that? Who who are the next ones to fall in line?

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Speaker 2: Shoot? It was kind of other packed twelve.

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Speaker 1: Schools and you didn't start playing quarterback till your junior year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like full time. Uh so yeah, kind of that off season. Yeah, we're going into the junior year, I started playing more quarterback, but uh yeah, man, it was just packed twelve schools A couple.

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Speaker 2: I think it was just Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, you offered me, uh and then and then yeah, and then it was like Big ten like Penn State some other ones.

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Speaker 1: But do you get Michigan?

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Speaker 3: I didn't. You know, It's funny. Uh, Right, when Harbaugh got the Michigan job, he called me really mm hmm yeah, and uh he was kind of pitching and I was just like, hey, like, I've committed to U s C. Like this is after like right when I was about to start my senior year, and uh I was like listen, like I made a commitment to go to SC.

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Speaker 2: Like I appreciate you reaching out.

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Speaker 3: But so yeah, he did reach out, and you know assume that he would have probably offered me, but I didn't even let him get that far.

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Speaker 2: I was just like, I'm I'm going to SC.

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Speaker 1: Loyal cat. Huh yeah, I mean, dude, I grew up an SC fan. Yeah, I mean you grew up with Matt Lioner, Reggie Bush, those dudes.

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Speaker 3: That was primetime SC ball and I was you know, that was my childhood, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So, and Pete Carroll was the dude too, man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he played SC perfectly, did all the stuff he needed to do, get the stations.

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Speaker 1: Yes, will Ferrell coming in doing practice? Do you guys anything like that? S it right?

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Speaker 2: We never did, dude, But we were coaches at I was with so Sark.

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Speaker 3: I was with Sark for about a year and a half and then Clay took over as the interim and then ended up getting the job after that that first year where we uh we had a pretty good year.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome here. Yeah. So when you when you were coming out, as soon as you offered by the youths, You're like, I want to go to s C. The whole time, I want to go to SC.

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Speaker 2: I always wanted to go to s C. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So when they offered, it was done deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was because they offered late too, Like I was actually went on a some official visits. I went to Duke Northwestern, uh, and then I went to Oregon.

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Speaker 1: Why'd you to Duke, what'd you in Northwestern?

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Speaker 2: I wanted to write, I, H no, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Actually, well, Duke's a good school, right I thought I was, But uh no, Duke's a grade school Northwestern too. But I I really liked fits who's the coach at Northwestern. I like Cutcliffe a lot, just knowing his background with the Mannings and stuff. I was like, you know, I want to get to know this guy and potentially play for him.

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Speaker 2: I think it'd be sick. Yeah, and uh so that was kind of my.

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Speaker 3: Mindset with that, and then went to Oregon after that. So I went Duke Northwestern Oregon, and then I came back down to do a camp like last minute at SC they had like a middle school camp going on.

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Speaker 2: And then I was throwing.

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Speaker 3: I was like thrown in the mix because Sark wanted to see me throw in person.

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Speaker 2: You'd never seen me throw in person. So I threw for him.

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Speaker 3: I probably like fifty balls, just kind of warming up, and then on the run, just really like low key workout. And then he took me in his office and offered me on the spot there and I thought about it. You know, I made the whole list pros and cons where I wanted to go top three schools and and uh you know that was once I made the pros and cons list, I was like pros for sc yeah, and then there were no cons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it was over for you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, this is pretty easy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: Can see me play great education, great ball. Grew up a fan like grew up in.

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Speaker 1: San Clementy, right, yeah, outstanding town. If you ever been to San Clementy would have been I have been. I was like fifteen sixteen. I had a girlfriend who was pretty rich, so they go out there in the summertime. It was a nice thing. Oh yeah, oh yeah, smart, big family Italian girl.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 1: He was awesome. Shout out Laura Shockley. But we would go to San Clementy all the time. Yeah, we got San Clementty. Was it was awesome. Yeah, she hates my guts probably now. Shout out hey, Laura, good to say. You mean out here, motherfucking me. How do you feel about that? What side do you want with Chris Rock and Will Smith?

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Speaker 2: What a weird pivot? Yeah yeah, uh no, I mean you can't you can't hit anyone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're on the Chris Rock.

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Speaker 3: Sideyeah, and it's it was a joke, but you know, whether whether the joke was bad taste or not, you know, it's you can't just you can't go up and smack someone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah like that. Yeah, I've we talked about on the podcast last week and it kind of seemed like it's alopecia. Right. I don't want to get that wrong because I feel like it's insecure if I what to call it last week propecia propicia, which is like to save the hair thing, and I just think that I don't know, it depends like there's a lot of women Jada included, who look beautiful right with the shade head, I had no issue with it, and I think anything's fair with comedy when it comes to you know what I'm saying, less you're white, saying the N word, that's probably a big no no, right Yeah, Yeah, probably shouldn't go down that road.

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Speaker 3: Other than that, Yeah, I think you're pretty fair game and that there might be another couple.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but anything off the top of your head you're thinking of you question, No, No, not at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but uh no, that was yeah, I mean I don't know, I don't even know if if he knew that she had it or I don't even know if it was his joke. That's the other thing is like did he write it himself? He didn't, right, I mean, even even then, he's got to take responsibility because he said it. Yeah, so, I mean, but at the end of the day, it's it's a joke and Chris Rock's there to And you gotta know if if you're at the Oscars and you're sitting in front row.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get roasted a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I thing too when they showed Will Smith sitting there, he was like smiling, having a good time.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen the whole clip?

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Speaker 2: And then he looks over, Yeah, how to go defend her honor? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought his reaction was perfect though, the way Chris Rock handled it, He's like, wow, what a what a fucking pro dude?

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Speaker 1: What a pro though, Oh, there's no question he start saying documentary instead of Oscar, Like had a whole bunch of stuff going on. But I think all of us in here if he slapped me, We've talked about this. You get slapped for what other man? You like to think level of heads will prevail, But like, I mean, do you getting poked in the chest in general, someone doesn't like just goes right up to your chest toppokes you. You kind of want to kill that person immediately, right, So imagine getting open hands slapped.

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Speaker 2: Imagine if that just broke out in the huge fight.

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Speaker 1: I think Chris Rock would get his ass be he would, you would absolutely get his ass.

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Speaker 3: Be well, yeah, he's probably gotten I mean, listen, he's a he's a stand up comedian who has done a million shows.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's probably happened to him and the stand up committy.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there a bunch of tough guys in there, like too off the top of the head, Shob and Rogan, the two d's that are probably gonna be mask other than that, Like you don't think, I mean, Chris Rock's tiny's five to seven, yeah, fifty four years old or whatever. He is absolute legend, legend. But he starts swinging. It would have made it, I mean, it would have been outstanding TV. Would be talking for an hour longer.

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Speaker 3: Got it right when right when he landed the shot and when he got back up to the mic, he was like, this is the greatest night in television.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is such a great job. Yeah, such a great job.

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Speaker 2: It was well, he handled it perfectly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it would have been better if he just said keep my wife's name afterr fucking mouth and then it just was that was it. But then he just kept going, Yeah, it was a bad deal. And then he goes up and does that two and a half minute speech. Did you know were you watching it live?

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Speaker 2: I didn't watch it live.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't either. Yeah. I see the Twitter and it's thriving, it's going off on there, and you immediately go to try to zoom in find it, shout out Japan. Japan had the whole thing for us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know how how fast it was after he slapped Chris Rock But how fast? What How quick was the turnaround with him winning the award and going up.

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Speaker 1: And give him the speech. It was like twenty minutes, right, that's crazy. Yeah, and so he's got to go up. He's talking about being a protector and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And it was his first Oscar as well. God hey, and then he he just resigned from the Academy. He just came out the other day and said I'm going to resign, which I don't know what that means. Is that mean he's done acting or he's just no longer affiliated with the PA or whatever they are. He can't go to the oscars. I tell you he's got the information. He just can't go to the award ships anymore. But he can still win stuff.

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Speaker 2: He's still good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's will Smith that he's not going anywhere. If anything, he probably just got another action movie work on that. That the hit movement. That would be a hell of a golfer. Yeah, hell of a golfer.

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Speaker 2: A quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So we go to sc How do we do it? SCE? We read shirted our first year.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, I read shirt the first year, which I knew I was gonna do. So, you know how a lot of quarterbacks go early cool, So I didn't do that. I just went in the summer because I knew.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do it all.

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Speaker 3: I played basketball, went to prom, did all the cool senior stuff to do. You know, as if if I wouldn't have done that and then sat for a year, it's like what am.

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Speaker 2: I doing now? Exactly? Yeah?

00:21:09
Speaker 3: So yeah, red shirted, red shirted s S sat behind Cody Kessler and then we're back. Competition started that next year with Max Brown, it was another you know, five star kid coming out. I had to sit for a few years to wait a shot, wait for a shot, and then uh yeah, and then he ended up winning the competition, ended up playing for three games, I believe, and then I started the fourth one. We lost that one, so we started one and three and then we didn't lose a game after that.

00:21:42
Speaker 1: Well, it was going through your mind when he won the competition. He's obviously, you guys are going back and forth all campus when they tell you that, hey, you're not gonna be the starter week one.

00:21:51
Speaker 2: Basically what uh what coach said was just.

00:21:56
Speaker 3: We got to make the best decision for the team. And that was basically it, you know how it is. It was like, very we got to do what's best for the team, and what's best for the team is that Max starts for us, really and so that was it was very, very simple, which I respected because I was like, how am I going to argue with that? You know, the coach thinks that he's better than me and that he gives us the best chance to win, Like do I disagree? Yes, obviously, But that wasn't you know, that wasn't for me to say. I was just yeah, I just kind of took it and uh handled it how I handled it, And that was really it.

00:22:38
Speaker 1: And so you weren't pissed off at all by that.

00:22:42
Speaker 2: I will, so I'll go back a little bit.

00:22:44
Speaker 3: He he did mention me getting a package for like red zone stuff and some stuff for me to like run the ball in the red zone on third and short, third and fourth and short, and so that that kind of got me a little uh irritated. But I mean everything that he said was spot on. I Mean, he was like, he gives us the best best chance to win, but at the same time, we envision you having like a red zone package and a third and fourth and one package. And so I was just like, yes, coach, because I'm like a you know, nineteen eighteen, nineteen year old.

00:23:19
Speaker 2: Uh, I was just like, all right, sounds good.

00:23:21
Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I was much more mouthy than that, I'm sure. Yeah, my rush for freshman yar. They told me I wasn't starting. I told the coach to go fuck himself. Yeah, but hey, that's that's how it works sometimes, you know. I definitely said that in my head. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, sometimes I gotta let him know. You know what I'm saying, things are going your way. You gotta say fuck you on the way the deal works sometimes. So the first three games go on, Yeah, and then what happens this guy he gets hurt, right, No, he just got benched, just shitty throwing an iron. T's left and right.

00:23:50
Speaker 2: So he just I mean, I'm still friends with es this day.

00:23:54
Speaker 1: Here's a great guy. To shoot on him. Yeah, I'm sure he's a great guy. He's awesome.

00:23:57
Speaker 3: Yeah I had to say that, but no, he is, he really is. But uh yeah, that was probably the weirdest part, to be honest, because we're we're boys my freshman year because he was kind of showing me the ropes and you know, when I was going out at SC, we were kind of hanging out and you know, he was taking me to parties, doing all that stuff, big brother stuff, and then all of a sudden, we're in a competition together and it was like, right, I guess that's over, you know.

00:24:23
Speaker 2: What I mean?

00:24:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, doing any.

00:24:25
Speaker 2: Of that stuff anymore, partying together anymore, and nothing like that.

00:24:28
Speaker 3: So so that was kind of the weird part because I was, you know, we had the same friend group, you know, boys with you know, everyone on the team and then some of the kids outside of outside of football as well.

00:24:38
Speaker 2: But you know, it's just part of the deal.

00:24:41
Speaker 3: And uh yeah, So I thought the way that he handled it was insane though, just perfect, the way that he was just he never even said anything in the media about me or anything.

00:24:53
Speaker 2: He just you handled it like a bro supported you. Yeah.

00:24:57
Speaker 1: That's awesome, dude. I love that when so you play those games and then you go on, then you play the next year. You guys win the PAC twelve championship, correct, Yes, win the PAC twelve championship, and then we get to the twenty eighteen draft and there's kind of the three guys that everyone's talking about, Baker Mayfield, you and Josh Rosen. Yeah, and now you and Baker. Well, Baker's pretty outspoken to but you seem like a guy kind of like keep to himself, don't stay a whole lot, don't read a lot of stuff. What are you thinking when you see Josh Rosen staying some mountland as shit, going to UCLA?

00:25:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's just it's hard. It makes it just it makes life harder.

00:25:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, why why does it make it harder on you. What do you mean you said it makes life harder for him? Oh, yes, that's why.

00:25:40
Speaker 3: I don't, you know, I choose not to and like honestly, like I would, I wouldn't.

00:25:46
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just not in me to like do stuff like that.

00:25:48
Speaker 3: And now I do have you know, I have great friends in a great circle, you know, great family that you know, if there's some shit that I got to get off my chest, like yeah, everyone has it, you know what I mean, But going through the media and making a scene about it, that's you know, it's just harder to live life that way.

00:26:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. I mean, it makes it a little bit more fun sometimes you can.

00:26:10
Speaker 1: It's fun if you do well right, right, But if you're the tenth overall pick getting traded the next year and then it doesn't have happened the way it's happened to him, yeah, it's not it's not a good deal. And saying for Baker too, he seems like he's in a bit of a deal right now. So if all three of those quarterbacks you're doing the best, Yeah, you're doing well, argue Yeah, Oh, absolutely so, Baker. I mean Baker's got to find himself a new home. How do you what did you think about him when he came out with like a see a later letter to the Browns, even before they got Deshaun Watson.

00:26:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a tough deal, right because.

00:26:41
Speaker 3: You got you got, you know, people that you think are loyal to you in terms of you know, whatever it is in his circle at the Browns, coaches owner, GM, whatever it is for him saying that they're you know, he's their guy, all this stuff, all the promises that they make, and then all of a sudden, there's rumors going out, not necessarily rumors, but you know, factual you know, information out that you know, they're looking to potentially get to Sean Watson, and you know that might hit a you know, that might hit to the core a little bit for him. Yeah, And so that's again, it's not not for me to really comment a ton on because I don't you know, I don't I'm not gonna choose.

00:27:23
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on in Cleveland.

00:27:24
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a it's a tough deal, man, Yeah, because you know, it's hot throughout business.

00:27:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, not to get corny, but it is, yeah, and you go third, you go a third overall to the Jets. And was Adam Gase to coach then? Or was the that was that the year after? No, he was so Todd Bowles. Todd Bowles the coach.

00:27:41
Speaker 3: Bulls was our head coach in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen season, and then uh yeah, I love Todd and mccagnum was our GM and they were the ones who drafted me, took me in. And then that next year Bulls gets fired, they bring in Adam Gase and mccagne is still the GM, and then the next year they bring in Joe Douglas GM with Adam Gase as the head coach, and.

00:28:03
Speaker 2: So like, hey, you hear all that stuff. Adam Gaze is the dude that does like the weird eye thing right when he's getting what he's interviewed.

00:28:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, like was he just a crazy person or what was the deal?

00:28:13
Speaker 2: Adams? Great?

00:28:13
Speaker 1: He's a good you loved him?

00:28:14
Speaker 2: Great? Dude? Yeah, I love Adam.

00:28:16
Speaker 1: Because I was watching I was watching some stuff and I was watching the YouTube video of like the Patriots game obviously a tough one out there, and then I was watching stuff after they're like Adam Gase didn't do anything to help you. They didn't do slide predictions, no, like seven man pros, you know, checkdowns, none of that stuff. What was going on during that game where he like did he come and say anything to you or anything like that?

00:28:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean we just watched the tape.

00:28:40
Speaker 3: We you know, we talked about some stuff, and you know, there were there were definitely some things where I could have done a lot more with the protection that helped me out. But it was just, for lack of a better term, it was a cluster, uh, you know, out on the field and trying to you know, because Bill and that that whole tree Flores, Patricia all those guys. If you can't figure out there's zero pressure and you don't have an answer, we're going to keep bringing it.

00:29:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, when they bring seven up, you think they're bringing zero. Yeah, so you think if you get the ball out real fast, then all of a sudden they drop and then only rushing three or four.

00:29:15
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and then the next time they bring them all the one guy that rushes is the guy that you slide away from.

00:29:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

00:29:22
Speaker 3: So it's like there's just there's there's a lot of there's good ways to handle it and there's bad ways to handle it, and you know, we didn't.

00:29:29
Speaker 2: We didn't handle it the best that you could have.

00:29:31
Speaker 1: When you say that was stuffy you could have done for protection? Yeah, was it like a development thing for you when you didn't know protection very well?

00:29:38
Speaker 2: I think it was just.

00:29:41
Speaker 3: Kind of getting things lined up to start and then understanding, Okay, I have five seconds on the play clock, like one of those like damn, Like you know, I was trying to figure stuff out with the receivers, like trying to give them signals, and I think it was more just trying to We should have been more in and out of the huddle, and we were that game.

00:30:01
Speaker 2: I think that was really the biggest issue.

00:30:03
Speaker 3: And then we started going on the ball and it helped a little bit, but I mean, yeah, we didn't.

00:30:08
Speaker 2: We didn't have great answers for it.

00:30:10
Speaker 1: Is there anything you said to the guys like, hey, we got to get to the line faster so I can kind of dissect this.

00:30:14
Speaker 2: Thing for sure? I mean that was that was one of the first things I said.

00:30:17
Speaker 3: And then we started going no huddle, which I did quite a bit of with Adam, which you know, he did a lot of with Peyton in Denver, and so that was kind of that was kind of the go to if we were kind of struggling or in a rut, we would go to the no huddle stuff and try to get on the ball and create some tempo for us. But then again, like you start to go tempo and you go three and out, it's the defense in a shitty position, real bad position.

00:30:42
Speaker 1: And another thing about tempo too, is when you go tempo or a two minute type of situation, usually vanilla's down the defense quite a bit because they have to get ready to they have to get a line up. I don't have time to make those.

00:30:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they were just bringing zero the whole time. Yeah, that was really putting the pressure on you. Was Yeah, that was when we started going no huddle. They were like, all right, we'll just keep calling it. Yeah, and uh yeah, it was just a tough day and.

00:31:04
Speaker 1: You had the unanimous staying saying you got you were seeing ghosts out there, right. Yeah, Well like, hey, that's a tough meme.

00:31:10
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

00:31:11
Speaker 3: No, it's a it's a tough thing to uh to handle, you know, to this day.

00:31:15
Speaker 1: But uh so when all that, when all that stuff cycling, what do you what are you thinking about that?

00:31:19
Speaker 3: It's it's interesting because like in our room, in a quarterback room, we would we would see guys kind of like in the pocket, you know, you have some quarterbacks flinch a little bit.

00:31:31
Speaker 2: We would say, oh, they're seeing ghost out there.

00:31:33
Speaker 3: And so like I just like said that to my coach at the time, you know, when we were down forty to nothing. Yea, I was just pissed and I didn't know what to say, to be honest, and it just it happened.

00:31:46
Speaker 2: And they they got it on live TV. So you think that were you miked up? Oh you fucked up. Yeah, that's on you.

00:31:54
Speaker 1: I was hoping it'd be like a coach or something like that, but you you sold yourself out.

00:31:57
Speaker 3: No, it's for sure on me. I'll take that one of the grave. I'll take that one to the grave. Shout doubt.

00:32:03
Speaker 1: Dude. That's gotta be a tough deal. But hey, listen, everyone has bad games. It's tough, yeeah.

00:32:07
Speaker 3: And listen, that was that was the worst game by far that I've ever played in my life. And I own up to it.

00:32:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to own up to it. But that week after, like you play Sunday and then Monday you're just like.

00:32:22
Speaker 2: No, it was Monday night, so Tuesday morning, Tuesday morning.

00:32:25
Speaker 1: Thank god. It's a short week though, Yeah, one less way to move on you want to, Yeah, because that stuff, man, when you when you have one of those games, like I have my we talk about all the time of week one. You kind of sit there and we played at noon on Sunday, so I had the full week to think about I'm just a piece of shit, now, aren't I. I'm just I'm garbage out here.

00:32:42
Speaker 2: And then pay attention to the media and oh hey listen, start saying, ah, you know you suck, dude. Yeah, try to go find a different profession.

00:32:49
Speaker 1: It's it's bad too. Are just wild? Yeah? Should I do something different?

00:32:55
Speaker 2: Maybe they're right, Yeah, it's dude.

00:32:57
Speaker 1: It's it's just crazy how people want to manipulate things and if you go one bad game or something happens, especially being at quarterback, I feel like it's part of the deal. But at quarterback, you you live and die with the franchise. Like if things are going well, it's like, wow, this dude's just stud But look how great the defense is. Look how good wide receivers are. But when things aren't good, they're like, it's Sam, it's his fault, it's the quarterback's fault. Does that seem fair to you to have all that kind of pressure all the time for quarterbacks, not just for you.

00:33:24
Speaker 3: I think it is for sure. Why is that the money? I mean the money that's you know, there's.

00:33:29
Speaker 1: A thirty million dollar deal of twenty years what time twenty million signing about us?

00:33:33
Speaker 2: It was something like that.

00:33:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know exactly.

00:33:35
Speaker 2: What it was.

00:33:36
Speaker 1: Don't do that. I don't do that, dude.

00:33:39
Speaker 3: But uh no, but it's again, like I'm half joking about the money thing. You get ready all week and you know there's a reason that the franchise lives and dies with the quarterback. Yeah, because you're the one out there. You got the ball in your hand every single play. Like and it really has become more and more as as the game keeps progressing, it's becoming more and more of a quarterback league, and you know, it's it's great. You know, I think it's great for the game. You know, like when numbers are going up, you know, passing statistics are going up, I think it's great.

00:34:13
Speaker 2: TV.

00:34:14
Speaker 3: You know, for people to watch and all that. But yeah, it's kind of my take on it. But I really do think it. You know, some of it's not warranted, don't get me wrong. There's some stuff that people say that you know, yeah, people put a keyboard coach and they know exactly what's going on. They really have no idea.

00:34:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.

00:34:32
Speaker 3: That that part's tough. And then you know there's sometimes where like some guy gets it.

00:34:35
Speaker 2: Like spot on.

00:34:36
Speaker 3: You know, he's like the keyboard coast and he's like he's like, dude, should have seen this, like to the left. You should have slid it to the left and got the back out. You're like, dang, dude, He's right, yeah.

00:34:45
Speaker 1: I should have. I should have done that. That's so funny, dude.

00:34:48
Speaker 3: But but no, it's it really happens. But uh yeah, man, it's it's part of the deal.

00:34:53
Speaker 1: Do you do a lot of mental work at all during the off season anything like that.

00:34:58
Speaker 3: I I started to a little bit a couple of years ago, just working with someone who not even for football. It was just to kind of clear my mind. And then there's some you know, just some low key like meditation that I would do, like just by myself, like in the morning or at night before I go to bed, and uh, just clear clear in my head.

00:35:17
Speaker 1: But do you use an app? Do you like do you like the call map or something with that headspace?

00:35:20
Speaker 2: It's a little bit.

00:35:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just mess with a little bit if I feel like I need it or if I feel like i'm you know, why am I feeling a certain way? Like you know what I mean? So sometimes I feel like I need it more more days than others. But I think all that stuff's great though. Yeah, I think there's I don't think you can talk enough about mental health, and especially in the NFL.

00:35:40
Speaker 1: Why do you think it's become such a thing lately and in the last three four years, it's really the mental health has people have talked about so much more than they have in the past.

00:35:48
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:35:48
Speaker 3: I just think there's so much more attention around things that wouldn't otherwise get attention because of social media. You know, you have such a you have such more of a you're just kind of a fly on the wall in anyone's life now, you know, if you follow whoever it is like Dak Prescott, you know, talking about mental health I think is great, you know, because you look on Sundays and you look on the field and he's rushing it and you're like, dude, this guy makes you know, you know.

00:36:17
Speaker 2: He's just killing life in general.

00:36:19
Speaker 3: Like he's throwing touchdowns, he's playing for the Dallas Cowboys, like you almost feel like he's invincible. And then all of a sudden he comes out with you know, all these mental struggles that he's been dealing with, and you know, you don't realize it, but a lot of a lot of people deal with the same stuff, you know, huge actors, a bunch of different people.

00:36:40
Speaker 1: Do you think that like the mental side of things has kind of been brought up more because, like you said, so many people have more access and like a lot of these guys and like the old school dudes played ten twenty thirty years ago, like this is so soft now, but they don't realize that it used to be a newspaper clipping and that would be your news and what happened in the game before, and you wouldn't see what everybody else is saying. But now to click up a button, you can learn what everybody's thinking about you always great point.

00:37:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point. I think it is different. I think everything's just different.

00:37:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think to now there are there are some times where I'm like, okay that, you know, that's pretty soft. You know some of the things that would happen in terms of you know, guys, you know, missing practice for one thing or the other.

00:37:22
Speaker 2: You know, I think.

00:37:23
Speaker 3: There's there's a lot of like the basketball talk I think is very interesting, like when you hear when you hear guys like Michael Jordan, Larry Bird criticizing guys for like missing games during the middle of the season, and you know, I get some of that, but now, you know, you look at guys like Lebron who like to do that, and Lebron's and what his nineteenth eighteenth, nineteenth years as he's a freaking machine.

00:37:49
Speaker 2: And so when that when a.

00:37:50
Speaker 3: Guy like that sits out a game and gets a bunch of flag for it, I'm like, dude, you can't. You can't really give him ship for missing a game. Yeah, you know, look at what he's with his career. Look how he literally brought Cleveland up from nothing.

00:38:05
Speaker 1: He brought Cleveland for nothing. And then also, like Michael Jordan, you everybody watched the documentary The Last Dance, and he would you know, have a couple of beers before a game, eat a pizza, and.

00:38:14
Speaker 2: That's around of golf.

00:38:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll play around the golf and before playing around a golf the day, imagine playing around a golf in general in my life. Yeah, that's a hard ass sport. Play eighteen holes. I mean, I can't do it. I know, those a couple of guys in the back. I'm out there, I play three holes and I sit in the cart and run. I can't do this. A whistle pig and I just move on. But gotta gotta plug it a little bit too. Idn't even talk about the Chevy Silverado, the most durable vehicle, But with with Michael Dude, it just seemed like as things have advanced more in science and how the body works and all the things you can do for your body, now it's I think in basketball, you play so many games for Lebron, especially at his age too, to take a couple of games sit and not play, I mean, I think that's that's the move. Now. You would argue that people paid good money, they work super hard to come and see Lebron, come and see Kobe, come and see those dudes. Rest in peace, Kobe, but come and see these guys. But at the same time, like, the whole goal when you play a sport is to win whatever it is at the end, whether it's a super Bowl, the NBA Finals, all that stuff, and so I think that's a smart move by him to be able to do that.

00:39:19
Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you see that thing with Eric Church going to the UNC game?

00:39:22
Speaker 1: Yes, dude, Oh my god, what do you think about that? He just did in the squad?

00:39:27
Speaker 2: He did? He did, But at the same time, was it not for the boys move A huge er Church fan too. He refunded the tickets though.

00:39:33
Speaker 3: Of everyone that went, now, they were complaining about flights and hotels and stuff like that, which I get. But it's also one of it's his dream, you know, to go see a UNC duke Final four.

00:39:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, no is what's his name's last game too, right, coach k Yeah, But uh.

00:39:49
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm I'm kind of I don't know. I don't know if I want to take a side, but I lean towards Eric Church just because, like it might be part of your dream to go see Eric Church in concert, but it's literally his childhood dream to go watch you and.

00:40:04
Speaker 2: See duke playing the Final four.

00:40:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like where does where do you draw the line of like whose fault is it?

00:40:09
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

00:40:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean just to play Devil's advocate. You if you make a commitment to go do something and there's nothing restricting you other than a want, Like he signed up for it. You signed up to be a quarterback in the NFL, So regardless of how you feel on Sunday, you're gonna go out there and play. I signed up to be a left people, you know if I would if I just dipped. We're about to play the Ravens one day and I'm like, hey, I love it, but this team's playing this team. I really want to go see it. Hey, it's my brother's birthday. It actually doesn't happen, you know what I'm saying. A big Michigan Ohio State game this weekend. Guys, I'm not gonna be able to go. Third week in November, I just can't. I can't play hopefully the bie weeks. Then it's like this doesn't just doesn't work that way, you know. Yeah? Sure, But I mean Eric Church, especially in the country music world, he's a He's a legend like that. I love his music. I think he has three or four albums that just absolutely slay. But uh, I don't know if that's like the I mean, I don't think it's the best move to go and do that. Now he can do whatever he wants with his life. He's still going to go play that same venue probably a year later and sell it out and it's gonna be just fine. He's just gonna catch a little flak right now and move on. Yeah, it's tough, dude. Yeah, Erek Church, thing is wild.

00:41:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think like the best way to handle stuff like that is in terms of maybe not the Will Smith, but like Eric Church and like other things that come out about people like do you think it's best to like post right away or do you think it's you just kind of eat it and then kind of let time.

00:41:31
Speaker 1: So if you if you're Eric Church, you like, well what I say. If I was Eric Church, I would get out in front of it like he did. And I think I'm a big get out in front of things. Guy. I like to if I fuck up something, if I do something wrong, I feel like I have to tell everybody around me because there's a part of me that has like this anxiety about if I know I did something wrong and everybody else here knows it did something wrong, there's like this barrier that like they're thinking it and I know it, so like and we're not talking about it. For me, I'm like, I just got to talk about it to make sure, like this is what I was thinking, this is what happened, and then that's that's just how I am. I think you can go a lot of ways about it, but yeah, I I mean there's a lot of stuff I see where I'm like, why wouldn't someone just say it something like this right away, Like if you know you're agents speaking for you in a contract negotiation. I like when I was doing my contract with John Robinson, I just went and spoke to him and they're like, hey, you shouldn't go do that, you shouldn't go do xcell. I'm like, yeah, I gotta get up there and just see him face to face and be like this is how I feel. Where what are you thinking? And then it takes the business out of it, and now you're having a personal conversation. Yeah, I mean, I I think so I'm still here, you know, so things are going all right, but what would you do would you let everybody else handle it? Yeah? You like that too? Yeah, I think that's definitely the move. Dude. Should we do that Tier talk now? Because I know we have to do too. So we have two segments. There's a locker room talk and the tier talk, which is kind of redundant.

00:42:57
Speaker 3: Uh huh Okay, I've stadium's played in top five wide receivers, he's ever played with?

00:43:02
Speaker 1: God, that's tough. Well, I guess I'll give you that. Which what do you want to do?

00:43:07
Speaker 2: Definitely need some top five qbs to ever play it, you'll do. I'll do that.

00:43:11
Speaker 1: We'll do that, Okay, so I could do. I mean the way the way Bust Want the Boys work is we have tears so tier ones, the die hard cats on our podcast, the ones that get tattoos. You guys see the guy who got a tattoo on his stye, but he had to be with the with the horns and everything. I love to if we can put up his little name in that picture in this video.

00:43:29
Speaker 2: Does this guy have a lot of tats?

00:43:31
Speaker 1: It looked it was a bare leg. It looked like a bare leg. Outstanding tattoo. I hit a great tattoo artists.

00:43:37
Speaker 2: It's different if you're like tatted up, you know what I mean.

00:43:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're done, you can kind of just do whatever.

00:43:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever you want. Yeah, no one's going to see anything.

00:43:44
Speaker 1: Right, So when so he would be qualified as a Tier one guy. Tier twos like you follow, you comment, you subscribe, you rate five stars, those types of things, and then Tier three of the people that kind of sit in the background and then you see like a friend or something, then like hey, I heard you're doing pretty good. I had the podcast is doing all right? That type of thing. That's a Tier three guy, got it? So on these tier talk options, if you give me your top five quarterbacks. So I guess we're doing five tiers today, boys, in order in order of who you want hit the hit the names. You can talk about him if you want. You don't have to talk, you can just hit us right away. But I need your tier one, two, three, four, and five of these names on the board.

00:44:19
Speaker 2: Yep, can the audience see who's on the board.

00:44:23
Speaker 1: We'll put it up from that's fine. Yeah, loss is a whiz back there.

00:44:26
Speaker 2: Yeah mm hmm.

00:44:31
Speaker 1: See a couple of names coming out right now. I'd go Carson one, Carson one, Okay, yeah, Carson Palmer. Why Carson Palmer, I think just I mean, he won a heisman at SC, won a national championship, and for a lot of people that don't know, he actually had a great career, had some injuries that he's dealt with, and you know, kind of handled it I think very perfect. I could have thrown some people under the bus too in terms of what happened in his career in terms of some some different things with some certain teams. But I think he handled it like a pro and I just respect him.

00:45:15
Speaker 3: A ton and he's a baller. Go Liner Yeah.

00:45:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, Line is just stunning man him. We said before him and Reggie Bush, that little duo they had it.

00:45:29
Speaker 2: The sikest thing to grow up and watch them playful about that name above, Matt Liner And what do you think about that one? No, I don't recognize it.

00:45:39
Speaker 1: No, no, no either.

00:45:45
Speaker 3: So I know this is this is tough because I know Mark and Matt Sanchez and Barkley.

00:45:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I hope they're listening right here and we can haven't.

00:45:54
Speaker 1: I mean, Mark's much more handsome than Matt. Yeah that's debatable as well, you think, so it.

00:46:00
Speaker 3: Just depends, you know, if you're into you know, you know, yeah, exactly the whole thing that Mark has going on.

00:46:09
Speaker 2: Maddie.

00:46:12
Speaker 1: Big NFT guy, Matt the.

00:46:13
Speaker 2: Ft bitcoin guy. Shoot, uh, I'm gonna go Mark. I'm gonna go Mark.

00:46:24
Speaker 1: How does Matt feel about that he follows the pod?

00:46:26
Speaker 3: I know, I'm just gonna go Mark just because, I mean, i mean, Matt did some great things that s see. But you know, I think he would have won a Natty with that team that wasn't allowed to win a Natty is the sanctions shout up, Carol.

00:46:40
Speaker 2: But yeah, Mark won the Rose Bowl and stuff. So Mark had a great career too. So Mark and then Matt, and then I'd go, Rodney Pete, you're not gonna put yourself in.

00:46:49
Speaker 1: That list myself, yourself, yourself, And I said myself, but yourself, sorry yourself?

00:46:57
Speaker 2: No you Uh no, I mean I'm not gonna do that.

00:47:00
Speaker 1: I don't even know who Rodney Pete is.

00:47:02
Speaker 2: Rodney Pete. Look at his highlights?

00:47:04
Speaker 1: When do you play.

00:47:06
Speaker 2: Sick Layer?

00:47:07
Speaker 3: I don't even know, but uh, I've seen some of his highlights just being around sc You're just.

00:47:12
Speaker 1: Being too humble on this podcast right now. No, dude, we put in the eighties. Yeah, get the fuck out of here, dude, pull a different game. Leather helmets and ship back then or whatever it is.

00:47:24
Speaker 2: He had a solid NFL career too.

00:47:29
Speaker 1: I don't know.

00:47:29
Speaker 2: It's tough, dude, because you didn't grow up with it and you don't know.

00:47:32
Speaker 1: And doing these tiers too, are difficult because you've got to take away the NFL part because you just gotta talk about college. Because Mark Sanchez, you have the butt fumble, right, you can probably put the thing. I don't know, that's all I remember. That's all I know. Yeah, that thing lived in the not top ten forever, right, yeah, months years. I think it was retired. Look did you can't even see the film on this thing? It's so grainy? This is like NFL Blitz two thousd.

00:48:00
Speaker 3: That's Rodney Pete quarterback, right, Yeah, okay, I thought so looks like him.

00:48:05
Speaker 1: There's a dime. I mean you should have threw him in stride, am I right? I mean it was a dime, dude, So you put you put Rodney some did they play in the eighties? No offense to Rodney. I'm sure I'm positive he doesn't watch this podcast. It doesn't matter what I say, but you you never know, you never know exactly, but you're gonna put him over you. You're the third overall pick in twenty eighteen, Rodney Pizza Baller.

00:48:27
Speaker 2: Look at him.

00:48:29
Speaker 1: I don't know.

00:48:30
Speaker 3: We're also watching NFL highlights. If you go back to SC highlights, the way we're judging, I guess the tier.

00:48:36
Speaker 1: I want to go to USC so bad.

00:48:38
Speaker 2: They were telling me before you got here.

00:48:39
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, USC, Texas or any SEC school besides Vanderbilt or Kentucky.

00:48:46
Speaker 2: Does Michigan feel about that when you say stuff.

00:48:48
Speaker 1: Like that, Well, I well, I say, when I was in high school and then I had like an up and down deal with Michigan towards the end of my career there.

00:48:55
Speaker 2: In terms of one of the boosters, No, I never got paid.

00:48:58
Speaker 1: Never got paid. I'm sure you did a Hollywood stuf. There's so much. You never got money. You never got a free meal, you never went out to eat. And they're like, hey, go ahead, you're lying like a rug dude. It's okay, we're out. You can't get in trouble anymore.

00:49:10
Speaker 2: Actually, never got paid.

00:49:11
Speaker 1: Do you know guys in your team that didn't? For sure, We'll go ahead. What you got oh I got use name social Security numbers. Let me hear the whole thing.

00:49:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, social security numbers. I won't name any names, but I'll give social Security numbers.

00:49:23
Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, that's uh. I mean there's lots of dudes that people get paid all the time. I mean sec you know what I'm talking about over their tea? Yeah, hey, it means more allegedly. Do you think Tennessee's paying dudes out there? Yeah? You know what I mean, dude, Yeah, that's right. The nil thing. We'll do locker room talking a little bit, because I said, they want us to do this is all get cuts up too, So sound way better. We'll do locker room talking a second. So you get you get drafted to the Jets. What is that fan base like before you got traded.

00:50:01
Speaker 2: Before I got so so when I got drafted?

00:50:05
Speaker 1: Yeah when he got drafted a couple of years there. Yeah, great, they're they're their love like that. I mean, they'll let you know when you fuck up, there's no question. But they they seem like they're like on par with the Eagles.

00:50:15
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:50:16
Speaker 3: No, it's it's a very I mean they're devotional fans man like they're there would be. There would be games where, you know, where season's not going great, and they would The stadium was I mean pretty pretty solid. It was fun to play in loud dude. It was a great fan base, loyal.

00:50:36
Speaker 2: Loved them.

00:50:38
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, thinks things don't go well and they'll let you know about it.

00:50:42
Speaker 2: I respect honestly. Yeah, your face though, you're playing a.

00:50:46
Speaker 1: Little vanilla on me right now, and I know there's a little something behind that. They probably passed you off, those Jets fans.

00:50:51
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you know, there's there's a lot that you know, people would say stuff, and you know, but again, like I said, like when you when you're in the social media world and people are talking so much shit online, you respect it so much more when people say it to your face.

00:51:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, I uh, There's only been a handful of time someone says, um too my face, right, But Jets fans really do it like that all the time. Yeah, tough. You're going to it. You're going to a little deli out there grabbing a sandwich.

00:51:19
Speaker 3: There was a place so I love so I love this place in New Jersey. I'm not going to say the name.

00:51:25
Speaker 1: Okay, you have no free shoutouts.

00:51:26
Speaker 3: I love that, yeah, and I don't live there anymore, so but uh no, great people, but there would be people that would All the people that go there are Jets fans, like they have like the old school like eighties letterman jacket, like you know, I'm like did you play for the Jets or like nah, I'm just a big fan. And uh so they're extra hard hats, like they're all the Fireman ad guys. So no, but like great fans, but they they would definitely be like, hey, what the fuck are we doing? Like can we can we get the ball to a Can we put Damarius Thomas out there more often? Like when he catches the ball, he does something with it every time, and it's like, hey, you're not wrong, like I hear you. He's he's dealing with some some hamstring issues right right, But they don't care about that all about you know what I mean. Uh, And so it's just stuff like that. But honestly, it was It's fun to have those conversations, you know what I mean, because they're like critiquing, like what we should do and strategy and stuff like that. The part that pisses me off is when people judge like my game, like how I'm playing. Then I'm like, hey, Bud, like go strap it up, like yeah, you know what I mean. Like I was like, you're a fan, and I respect you being a fan, and you can talk all the shit you want and I'm not going to do anything about it at the end.

00:52:45
Speaker 2: Of the day.

00:52:46
Speaker 3: But like take it easy, Like like what if I was like, hey, like the house you just worked on, piece of shit, Like you're you're so bad at tiling, Like really, go get another job, really think about your profession. Yeah, you know, it's like sometimes you just want to say stuff like that, but you can't.

00:53:06
Speaker 1: Well why not?

00:53:08
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah I could, Yeah you're going.

00:53:10
Speaker 1: To No, I'm with you. I wouldn't say that either.

00:53:12
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:53:12
Speaker 1: Yeah. It always sounds so good to think about because you're on that on that Twitter, you see somebody say something.

00:53:17
Speaker 2: Like yeah, like even now I feel like a coward, you know what I mean? Yeah, damn, Like now.

00:53:21
Speaker 3: I feel like a coward like that guy, that guy that's sitting here listening to that podcast like that the Jets fans, Like, now I actually know what he wanted to say to me, but he didn't.

00:53:29
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:53:29
Speaker 1: Oh, there's an actual Tyler out there.

00:53:31
Speaker 2: No, I don't know, I don't know. It probably was Carpenter and like, yeah.

00:53:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, that is a fucking tough deal when people talk shit like that because you think they think they can do it. You go out to a bar and people say something to you and they're like, hey, what whatever, you guys do this? Instead it's like, well, why aren't you the coach? Why are you doing this whole thing? Because they can't love the fans. I don't want to feel like I'm being harder than he is. You're being You're being so nice. I feel like I'm being a little too much of an asshole right now.

00:53:56
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like when we were talking about Max earlier. Yeah, yeah, I feel bad about that to ioham a written apology, just kind of shipping on him right away.

00:54:03
Speaker 1: He's a great guy. I'm like, yeah, but he is just playing both sides of the fence on you. So when when the when you started hearing trade rumors about everything, how did that process go for you? Like, did like did they tell you, hey, we're thinking about trading you. Did you hear it from the media first? What was that whole process?

00:54:18
Speaker 3: Like there they were, they were just like, hey, we got to figure some stuff out when I was leaving.

00:54:27
Speaker 2: This is exit interview, like raving season. So they don't know anything.

00:54:31
Speaker 3: They might know what they want to do, but they don't know exactly how they're going to do it. So they just tell me, hey, we're gonna we're gonna look at you know, people in the draft and uh free agents and like, you know, we'll be in touch. And so right right when they said that, I was like, okay, like it's it's a wrap.

00:54:46
Speaker 1: So how did that make you feel when you heard all that? I was just like, you know, I think you guys are making a mistake.

00:54:51
Speaker 3: Obviously told him that, Yeah, for sure, nice work, but like you know, at the end of the day, it's it's not you know, that's not my call. So if you know they don't think I'm the guy for them, then you know it is what it is. But so I just kind of reached out to my agent. I was just like, hey, like I'm not going to pay attention. I'm I'm gonna like not pay attention to social media at all, just like let me know if what happens. Like I was like, if you want to, like tell me rumors like, I'm fine with that, like rumors that are.

00:55:21
Speaker 2: Real, not just like yeah bullshit.

00:55:25
Speaker 3: So yeah, so I was just like, let me know if anything changes, and then got a call. I don't even know when, but I think it was a little bit before the draft and they're like, yeah, we're gonna all right. It was from my agent first of all. Literally it was it was crazy. So my agent calls me. He was like, hey, like, the Panthers are trading for you. It's gonna come out here in a second. And like, right as he's saying that, my phone rings had a call from Joe Douglas, the GM with the Jets. I was like, hey, like the GMS call me. I got to pick this up real quick. And so Joe called me and very respect just pull me straight up what the deal was. And uh I was like all right, you know, sounds good.

00:56:07
Speaker 1: No, no, thank you nothing, you'res like all right, see ya.

00:56:10
Speaker 2: No.

00:56:11
Speaker 3: He was like, hey, we appreciate everything you've done for the organization ever since you've gotten here, but we're gonna, you know, move in a different direction.

00:56:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh yeah, so was it when we were talking about how like we like to get in front of things like when somebody knows something you don't, or you know that somebody knows something. When you're going through that process when you talk to the team and they say, hey, we'll let you know how everything goes. And then between that and before the draft you get traded, how you like, how are you processing those emotions of like wondering because you know you're not looking at social media, but at the same time, you know there's stuff out there saying X, Y and Z, because I mean it's a huge media market with the Jets. People talk about them all the time.

00:56:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's tough, dude, because like, you what are we doing.

00:56:57
Speaker 1: I know, I'm getting fucking clown horn going off. I'm a very popular guy.

00:57:02
Speaker 2: Uh. I was joking by the way, I know you were, or Taylor's like, I'm gonna kill this guy.

00:57:09
Speaker 1: Guys, I fucked this dude, Man, get him out of here.

00:57:13
Speaker 3: No, but uh, it was it was weird because, like, you know, I have that conversation the exit interview, and then I just go about, you know, my business as usual, and I'm like, because we the uh they hired Robert Sala, the new coach of the Jets, and uh, I'm talking to the OC like Michael Floor and Matt's.

00:57:31
Speaker 2: Brother and then uh, great, nap, you know, rest his soul.

00:57:37
Speaker 3: But I mean we were in conversation for you know, up until I got traded, basically about the offense, what we're gonna do.

00:57:44
Speaker 2: And so when you're.

00:57:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, so when they're calling, you're talking about what they're gonna do. Were you like, oh, I'm safe.

00:57:51
Speaker 3: No, I mean because I knew, you know, like I said in the exit interview, I was like, Okay, I feel like these guys are leaning, you know, in a different direction.

00:57:59
Speaker 2: So I always knew that deep down.

00:58:00
Speaker 3: But you know, like anything I do, I was just like, I'm just gonna you know, put everything I got and to learn this new offense and if it works out, it doesn't, you know, if it works out, it does, it doesn't, it doesn't. Yeah, And uh that was just kind of my mindset going into it. I was like, I might as well, like keep myself busy, learn the offense, and work out and do all the normal things that I do. And you know, because the worst thing is like sitting on something, you know, just just sitting you know, waiting to see what happens. It's like, just keep yourself busy. That's that's how I kind of deal with stuff like that. Honestly.

00:58:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a plow through right in the middle guy. I gotta worry about and figure it out. I gotta I gotta know what the hell is going on in my life. But I respect that though. I respect what you're talking about. Look at us back on the same page, insulting my phone and me, and now look at us, we're back to being best friends again.

00:58:46
Speaker 2: Just so popular.

00:58:47
Speaker 1: I love it so popular. I have three text messages. I think they're all for my wife. So you get trade to the Panthers, the GM calls you and he says, hey, appreciate everything you've done. Blah blah blah. What's the next part. What is it like when you're getting traded? Like, what is that? Has that work? Do you go immediately to Carolina ye to figure it all out?

00:59:03
Speaker 2: Yep?

00:59:04
Speaker 3: So obviously talked to the GM, talked to Coach Rule, went to Carolina, met everyone met. There are probably like four or five players that were actually their training So met some of the guys, talked some of the guys on social media through text, had a dinner with some of the guys as well, with like GM owner, head coach, a few other players that were there that were in town during the off season. And I was just there for a couple of days, you know, did the whole media thing, you know, sitting in front of the locker, putting the jersey on. And yeah, and I flew back home and started learning the offense.

00:59:45
Speaker 1: Nice. And so you live in California in the off season. It's a beautiful time, greattful time being there.

00:59:50
Speaker 3: Great boyt a place four years ago, redid it through my first season while I was in New York and then came back and been loving it for the last three years.

01:00:00
Speaker 1: That's awesome. So this year you start off, you start three and oh, things are going great. You get injured week nine. Correct, Yeah, that's what it said. Remember that's what it said. Yeah, we do have notes up here. Cam Newton comes in and takes a spot or whatever, Like what was that process like with Cam coming back and he scores a touchdown on I'm back doing all that shit is obnoxious as.

01:00:22
Speaker 2: He seems Cam is the best.

01:00:24
Speaker 1: I take it back. I think he's as awesome as he seems best.

01:00:27
Speaker 2: Dude, No, honestly, I'm being dead.

01:00:29
Speaker 1: It's so hard on us back in the day, dude, when he was at the when he was originally with the Panthers. God, I think they won the Super Bowl or I went to the Super Bowl that year. That was the year I was on Wesley Woodard and Avery Williams. He was doing the dance and then Avery came up and got in his face and he did it to him again. God, Avery's a great dude. But ever since then, I was like, man, fuck that dude. Cam Man just flexing on everybody. Guys got charisma like no one's personality like you've never seen in your life. So when you get injured and they bring cam and what your what's your thought?

01:01:03
Speaker 3: You know, I was just like, okay, like see what the deal is like, this is like middle of the season. I'm just trying to get healthy, honestly, honestly, and I was just like all right, like you know, and yeah, he was a great dude, great guy to have in the QB room, great guy to just have a round in general because his.

01:01:23
Speaker 2: Energy is unmatched.

01:01:26
Speaker 3: And then yeah, and then I come back and play and he's a great guy, like I said, just a great guy to have a practice, great gout to have in your team.

01:01:35
Speaker 2: I literally have nothing bad to say about Cam.

01:01:38
Speaker 1: Is he like is he the way he seems on media always? No, he's not always that high up, high energy.

01:01:44
Speaker 2: No. I mean there's you know, just like anyone else.

01:01:47
Speaker 3: He's like he's just gonna be quiet and like do his work and sit in the QB room watch tape, take notes. He's gonna like be in the training room with his headphones on and the hot tub headphones on, like just chilling with a tower round, isn't it.

01:02:00
Speaker 2: You know, It's like he's a normal dude.

01:02:02
Speaker 3: But you know when he gets out to practice, when he getting ready for games, and there's times, you know, in the locker room and stuff where he gets he gets very charismatic and very high energy.

01:02:15
Speaker 2: And it's awesome. But yeah, he's just he's just a natural born leader.

01:02:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just he got he has that energy and uh yeah, all I mean just the things that I've learned from him in terms of.

01:02:31
Speaker 2: Because he's dealt with a ton.

01:02:33
Speaker 3: Of stuff, a lot of a lot of stuff, a lot of ups and downs in his career and the way that he's handled it and the way that he talks about how he's handled it. Uh, just so much respect, and yeah, it's a great dude.

01:02:45
Speaker 1: He was MVP one year and then a couple of years later it's like it's not going the way he wants it to. And he had trouble finding a job for a little bit, so to go through that kind of adversity, and and he just seems like every time he gets on a team or does something, he's the same dude over You got to respect that, Oh yeah, gotta respect that. So this year, I know you don't you don't read a lot of stuff, but there's a lot of people are talking about whether the Panther's draft of guy, whether they were in the Deshaun Watson talk for a little bit of trading for the quarterback. Like what is you Obviously like you say you don't look at the social media stuff, which I'm not sure one hundred percent believe yet.

01:03:21
Speaker 3: But I see some stuff. Yeah, then, but I really try not to pay attention to it. Yeah, I don't even know if.

01:03:26
Speaker 2: I try not to. It's just that I don't.

01:03:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, because it was so it was you know, New York was on another level, So it was like, you know, I kind of figured out how to handle it there, and it was like kind of going back and forth, you know, between my rookie my first year and my third year. It was like I figured out how to best handle it for myself. Yeah, it was just not really paying attention to it. So that's why I've handled it. And I've kind of done the same thing this offseason, where like I'm just trying to learn coach mcadew's soon and that's where I'm at, you know what I mean.

01:04:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, do you get nervous when the draft's coming up or anything like that with possibilities of them drafting a quarterback at six.

01:04:09
Speaker 2: Or it's just it's it's literally like there's a.

01:04:13
Speaker 1: Lot harder questions than I usually ask on this thing.

01:04:14
Speaker 3: I apologize this is good because no one, to be honest, no one ever asked me these questions because they're you know, whether they're afraid or they don't they don't want to bring it up, you know, just in normal everyday conversation. Yeah, so no, this is truly like the first time I've ever answered questions like this. But dude, it's like, honestly, whatever happens, I'm prepared for it, and you know, at the end of the day, someone's got to answer for it.

01:04:41
Speaker 2: Whether it's you know, whoever it is, so the GM coach, whatever.

01:04:46
Speaker 3: If something happens like that, then it's like, all right, I'm going to see what they have to say and that's about it.

01:04:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I hear what you're saying, but it's for me, it'd be like a tough that'd be a tough thing to kind of to feel and knowing when you're when you're quarterback, because you know, like, well.

01:05:01
Speaker 2: It's the Baker thing.

01:05:03
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's the Baker thing, and it's it's understanding you're like trying to understand your thought process of like how you're not looking at you're not paying attention that you're just focused on what you're trying to do, which is be a great quarterback. The only issue is like if they so that they do draft a guy at six, you got you know how the you know how the politics of the NFL work. You know that guy from Liberty, whatever his name is, if they, let's say they draft him, you got to sit there and know that if you guys play well in camp, you might start the beginning, but at some point in time the owner the GM is gonna start telling the hew coach, we got to get our first round pick to play, you know. And so that's gotta that's got to ruffle some feathers on the inside a little bit. It's got to be tough to think that, Like, I'll give you, I'll give you an example.

01:05:46
Speaker 2: So well, shot to the ego.

01:05:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a shot to the ego. In twenty sixteen, we had the number one overall pick and John Robinson was the new GM and everybody that, all the analysts, the experts saying that we need to draft a guy number one overall off it's a tackle and move me to right tackle. And so at that point, well, I won't play right tackle. It's nothing against right tackles. It's just I'm a left tackle and that's what I'm gonna play. And if they say have to play right tackle, I'm out of here.

01:06:13
Speaker 2: You know.

01:06:13
Speaker 1: That's just how I work. And so I meet with John a couple of weeks. It's like the middle of April or something like that. He's asked me, like how I feel about all this whole thing, and I kind of just tell him. I was like, you know, the first overall picks a lot of money to pay for a right tackle because I'm a left tackle. We go through a couple of weeks of OTAs and they end up trading the pickaway, you know what I'm saying. So like that for me, that's like when I had, like I've said, anything that comes to me, I want to barrel through it. So people know how I fear. I don't leave anything up to I wonder what he was thinking that you know exactly how I'm feeling and stuff like that. So just when the draft is coming, it's got to be a hard feeling or wondering what is the possibility. It's nothing you can't control, truly, but the thought of it coming coming up, it's got to be a difficult thing at times for sure.

01:07:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it truly is.

01:07:07
Speaker 3: And this is this is kind of where you're not gonna believe what I say, but just bear with me.

01:07:11
Speaker 1: Are you ready?

01:07:11
Speaker 2: Yeah?

01:07:13
Speaker 3: It truly is, like whatever happens happens, because that's at the end of the day, like it's out of my control. Yeah, And I know that, And so I have enough security in myself to where I can be like, I know, I'm a good quarterback.

01:07:28
Speaker 2: No, I can be a good quarterback in this league.

01:07:29
Speaker 3: I've proved it, and I know there's a team if you know, something happens that would want me.

01:07:37
Speaker 1: Yeah. So well, I feel like the emotional maturity to handle like that is impressive. Like I think I go about I'm not saying the way I do things is a mature way, because I don't. I think it's like it can be a little reckless sometimes and for you to have the head on your shoulders you do as a quarterback that you would want.

01:07:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think it's it's all about who you surround yourself with too. That's how I've always thought, Like my parents, my family, my friends that I have back home, Like all my high school buddies are all my best friends. So you know, obviously there's guys in college that I you know, I'm boys with doo, but.

01:08:08
Speaker 2: Like I'm best friend.

01:08:09
Speaker 3: I have like six or seven best friends in high school that were kind of with me before all this shit started happening. So I just kind of roll with them, and you know, if I start getting a big head and they let me know about it, that's impressive.

01:08:23
Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, that's pretty much it having boys like that around you is really special to have. Yeah, definitely people that I'll keep in your place for sure. The locker room talk segment is the last thing I promise. Okay, So the whole point of the locker room segment, it's a new thing. We started last week. We started with Fred Taylor, and it's basically like something like, you're sitting with the boys in the locker room a story you whether it's off the field, on the field that you don't usually talk about with the mainstream media. We're definitely not the mainstream media. But with with media types in there, we're not trying to be mainstream. We're definitely not trying to be mainstream. Buttoned up is not our forte. Yeah, but as far as locker room talk.

01:09:03
Speaker 2: No one's gonna listen to this.

01:09:05
Speaker 1: No, we have millions of viewers, millions or its not on main stream, you know what I'm saying. We're not the ESPN's Okay.

01:09:13
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, I don't know if I can even.

01:09:15
Speaker 1: Have a weird way to segue like a segment too, like just to ask, hey, tell us a cool story, right, you know, it's kind of tough.

01:09:23
Speaker 3: No, it's kind of funny is ESPN even I don't know, like is TV mainstream media now?

01:09:29
Speaker 2: Like is that? I mean? But yeah, like podcasts and YouTube are starting to become a little more.

01:09:34
Speaker 1: It's definitely transitioning quite a bit.

01:09:36
Speaker 3: Because I know, like I'll sit on YouTube for hours, you know, and not watch a look at TV.

01:09:39
Speaker 2: So maybe I'm just different.

01:09:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, ESPN they let off like a hundred laid off like one hundred people a couple of years ago, and it's I mean, it's tough. Shout out all the grinders out there in the mainstream media, though, dude, shout to shout out you guys. But the podcast, like you see Pat McAfee's doing. I think he's the most watched dude of all the places, right, guys making I would say close to undred million dollars to hear right now. Yeah, Rogan's out there too, but he's not I mean, he's not sports. But yeah, he crushed the CNN and NBC. We had a Brandon shab on here and they were saying, like all those mainstream news media's takes like a week two weeks to just gain one of his episodes, and he's putting out three of those a week. Thirteen million views. Hawking just talking. He's dude. He's incredible at having conversations with people too. Yeah, incredible. Did you have a four hour conversation? Yeah? I think I could could. Yeah, well, it's it's usually the conversation usually goes off of who you're talking to, right, Like, if, for sure, if Joe's on here, he's a he's an excellent speaker. Yeah, things lowing and he loves talking, so I don't think that'd be an issue at all for sure to be on with him. But locker room segment, sorry, locker room talk. What kind of story do you got for us that's going to bless the bus?

01:10:49
Speaker 2: I mean besides all the dudes running around naked in the locker room.

01:10:51
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we can talk about it if you peek at meat too in a second. Okay, big part of our thing.

01:10:56
Speaker 2: Two riffs riffs only.

01:10:59
Speaker 1: No, I'm a locker guys with the kind of Yeah, I think I've just moved on to not caring anymore.

01:11:03
Speaker 2: Hey, you gotta you got kids, right?

01:11:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got kids. Okay, I don't know what that has to do with anything. Oh, yes, you know what I mean. Yeah, it's like it's the best cover up I've ever had in my entire life.

01:11:13
Speaker 2: It's outstanding. Yeah, oh man, Uh locker room story.

01:11:18
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's not like a locker room story, but it's happened.

01:11:24
Speaker 2: Uh after the Rose Bowl game.

01:11:26
Speaker 3: We were in the Rose Bowl and school's on winter break and so so no one's at school, and so we're like, what do we do? Like literally, I'm like, didn't have a planned out, like nothing, just won the Rose Bull. Don't know what the Rose Bull? Like, what do we do? You know, Uh, can't go out? You know, got my d's taken away? If that's not allowed to be on this we can take that out, I'm sure.

01:11:50
Speaker 1: But yeah we won't. But all right, I'm just kidding.

01:11:53
Speaker 2: Got my got my d's taken away? Uh.

01:11:56
Speaker 3: And so I was like nineteen, I think at the time, and so I literally was like, what do we do? So we go back an hour south down to my hometown and I literally all those guys I mentioned, Uh, we just had a time. We had a time at uh at my buddy's house, who had a bunch of people over. He had a sick backyard, jacuzie all that stuff. So all this stuff you enjoy when you're nineteen years old. So we had a few drinks and I ended up we ended up thinking it was a good idea to DM Snoop Dogg okay because he wasn't you know, he wasn't involved with USC anymore. And I was like, dude, he'd for sure respond. All my buddies were like hyping me up, like, dude, you just want the rose bull, like you should be able to talk to him. And uh, to this day, like seven years however long it is years later, no response.

01:12:48
Speaker 1: Snoop said a word. Nothing, He's that is a cut to the core. I really thought that was going to go to like he and he hit us up, went to his house.

01:12:59
Speaker 2: We went to his house.

01:13:00
Speaker 1: Yeah nah yeah. Did he read it?

01:13:01
Speaker 3: So sorry for everyone listening because that was, you know, tough story, but the story with stup Dog is good. Did anything of Snoop? Yeah, but uh nothing, dude.

01:13:10
Speaker 1: Not didn't read it or anything.

01:13:12
Speaker 2: I don't know.

01:13:12
Speaker 3: He was probably like, who are these fucking kids like just recording videos like send them whatever.

01:13:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like dumb stuff, but uh, dumb ass crackers. Yeah that's probably what he said.

01:13:24
Speaker 3: Uh, but yeah, it was just like send him a video and he just never responded, and I was pretty devastated.

01:13:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's got to be tough when you put yourself out there, especially when you tell the boys, yeah he probably responded, and they're like, oh, you for sure would.

01:13:37
Speaker 2: It wasn't even my idea. It was like one of my boys idea, Yeah, and I.

01:13:40
Speaker 1: Was just like a couple hours go by and it's like, oh, it's not looking good for saying yeah right.

01:13:44
Speaker 3: That was that was kind of like where where it came from was like we wanted something to go do. Uh, you know, an uber up to l A probably wouldn't be super cheap, but we're gonna do it. If you like was like yeah, like come out with the boys, you know it'd be a good time and just never respond.

01:14:00
Speaker 1: Parting with Snoop Dog would be all the time. You would be so high, Yeah, regardless of whether you wanted to or not. Right, Yeah, second hand, just second hand, just a stone out of your mind. You think it'd be harder to smoke with Snoop Dog or Willie Nelson? Willie Nelson, you think it'd be harder? Well, elaborate, why.

01:14:18
Speaker 2: Do you think I think there was a story that came out of Willian Nelson's smoking. Uh.

01:14:24
Speaker 3: It was like Snoop and Whizz kal Walifa under the bus, no ship, yeah, under the bus.

01:14:29
Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah.

01:14:30
Speaker 2: I think Toby Keith wrote a song about He'll never smoke. We with Willie Nelson again. Yeah, he was like that. I don't know that's what I heard. I think I heard that.

01:14:37
Speaker 3: Maybe it was maybe it was flipped, but I'm pretty sure it was Willie Nelson.

01:14:41
Speaker 1: And those two Wiz Khalifa and Snoop Dogg. They are like, that's those thing guys, that's the weird guys. Yeah, those are the weird guys.

01:14:47
Speaker 2: And Seth Rogan. Yeah, yeah, no doubt. Seth Rogan does get after it, doesn't you. Listen, dude, I had an outstanding time.

01:14:54
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