Rush "Moving Pictures" (1981): Track by Track!

<v Speaker 1>Hi.
<v Speaker 2>This is Matthew Brent and this is Dirk Smith, longtime
<v Speaker 2>listeners to The Shirley Podcast and host on our upcoming podcast,
<v Speaker 2>The Accidental Legends, coming later this month.
<v Speaker 3>All right, folks, fasten your seat belts and roll the tape.
<v Speaker 3>It's nineteen eighty one.
<v Speaker 2>We've got Tom Sawyer refusing to do his chores, a
<v Speaker 2>red bar Shuta out running traffic cops, and YYZ proving
<v Speaker 2>Canadians really can speak fluent airport code.
<v Speaker 3>Don't get lost in the camera eye or you might
<v Speaker 3>end up witch hunting for your sanity to see what
<v Speaker 3>I did. So grab your limelight, adjust your vital signs,
<v Speaker 3>and get ready.
<v Speaker 2>Because this is movie pictures, where every song paints a
<v Speaker 2>world in every riff movie.
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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, thanks? What is it? What are we doing?
<v Speaker 7>Last week we did Ario speed Wagon with Doug Gray,
<v Speaker 7>who is an Ario speed Wagon experts. Yes, and this
<v Speaker 7>week we're actually diving into the mighty Rush.
<v Speaker 1>Guys.
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<v Speaker 7>We were not born and raised, died in the wall
<v Speaker 7>Rush fans.
<v Speaker 5>No.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I remember Tom Sawyer growing up, I remember
<v Speaker 4>playing on the radio. I am familiar with them as
<v Speaker 4>legendary musicians, just because when you're a musician, you know
<v Speaker 4>you hear these names. I remember hearing Neil Pert's name
<v Speaker 4>for the first time from my drummer in my band,
<v Speaker 4>having a clue who he was, and being educated that
<v Speaker 4>you know, he's the PhD of percussion, right, He's just
<v Speaker 4>he's the guy. But I watched the documentary that they made.
<v Speaker 4>I think it's back in twenty ten or something like that.
<v Speaker 4>If you've listened to our podcast before and you're like
<v Speaker 4>a heavy metal guy, like you've listened to us for Metallica,
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<v Speaker 4>All of these guys who are masters of their craft,
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<v Speaker 4>who all look up to these guys as the lesson,
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so introduce our guests for us.
<v Speaker 7>Jason So in the epp left hand corner, we've got
<v Speaker 7>Brad Moore, who is from Louisiana. Brad's a friend of ours.
<v Speaker 7>You were on Alison Chains with us and you were
<v Speaker 7>on the Pina Colada Patreon.
<v Speaker 6>Live End Live.
<v Speaker 7>There you go, and for the first time ever, we
<v Speaker 7>have mister Tim Epp. Tim is from Canada A and
<v Speaker 7>hey's here to talk and give us great Rush inside.
<v Speaker 6>Tim, thanks for being here.
<v Speaker 1>Man.
<v Speaker 5>All right, tokn Canadian here?
<v Speaker 4>Yes, So let me talk to you guys real quick
<v Speaker 4>about how you first got into Rush. I'm going to
<v Speaker 4>start with you, Tim, because your handle on our Patreon
<v Speaker 4>page is Rush twenty one to twelve. You obviously are
<v Speaker 4>a diehard fan, but this is the first time we've
<v Speaker 4>ever covered Rush. So how'd you get in to listening
<v Speaker 4>to the podcast?
<v Speaker 5>Oh? Getting into the podcast? Interesting again. I used Spotify
<v Speaker 5>as my Apple choice for podcast and it was I
<v Speaker 5>don't even remember how long ago now it was that
<v Speaker 5>I've been following you guys, three or four years something
<v Speaker 5>like that. Anyway, what I was doing, I did a
<v Speaker 5>search on Spotify for you to the Joshua Tree album
<v Speaker 5>and I wanted to find some information about that, and
<v Speaker 5>there was a list of podcasts and here there's this Sureley,
<v Speaker 5>can't be serious. That's kind of a weird son it went,
<v Speaker 5>but I knew where the reference was. Okay, it sounds
<v Speaker 5>like my tribe. So I clicked onto that podcast. I
<v Speaker 5>think it was the two part podcast, and yeah, I thought, oh,
<v Speaker 5>the story like of the Edge being strung out on
<v Speaker 5>the mushrooms, like all this kind of stuff, just that banter,
<v Speaker 5>the way you guys talked back and forth and all.
<v Speaker 5>I thought, Wow, these guys seem pretty cool. So that's
<v Speaker 5>what got me hooked onto you guys, and I subscribed,
<v Speaker 5>and then I became a Patreon member with you guys
<v Speaker 5>and been enjoying the all the one hit Wonders and
<v Speaker 5>all the bonus material and interacting with fellow fans and
<v Speaker 5>members both on Patreon and on Facebook. So that's where
<v Speaker 5>it went from there.
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<v Speaker 4>about eighties and nineties stuff.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, and Brad, you've been with us.
<v Speaker 4>I think you've been with us basically from the beginning,
<v Speaker 4>Like you started to listening to us back in twenty twenty, right,
<v Speaker 4>I believe.
<v Speaker 8>So yeah, yeah, James told me about you guys and
<v Speaker 8>listen to the Van Halen Versus Van Hagar episode and
<v Speaker 8>I was like, wow, this is right at my alley.
<v Speaker 7>Hey, speaking of here, and a few short weeks we
<v Speaker 7>are going track by track through nineteen eighty four and
<v Speaker 7>nice fortieth anniversary of fifty one to fifty. We think
<v Speaker 7>that podcast is going to drop on its fortieth anniversary.
<v Speaker 1>So no prose real quick before we dive in. Are
<v Speaker 1>either one of you guys musicians?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, oh not really. I do a lot of karaoke singing,
<v Speaker 5>but that's that's about it. A little bit rhythm guitar.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well, these guys, I mean, I understood to some
<v Speaker 4>degree that they were proficient at their craft, but listening
<v Speaker 4>to this album and hearing what they were doing, I
<v Speaker 4>was just like, these guys, they're outlier level good. I
<v Speaker 4>could not believe how perfect there they're playing was, how
<v Speaker 4>perfect the timing which changes from measure to measure.
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's incredible what these guys can do.
<v Speaker 4>So I'm excited to talk about their musicianship. But as
<v Speaker 4>non musicians, it's going to be cool to listen to
<v Speaker 4>Why you guys love these guys like you do? And
<v Speaker 4>we're here to talk about album. How many years old
<v Speaker 4>is it?
<v Speaker 6>Oh?
<v Speaker 7>Well, it was come out in nineteen eighty one, so
<v Speaker 7>it's forty five years old.
<v Speaker 1>Forty five years old.
<v Speaker 4>And this album is the album that Neil part said,
<v Speaker 4>this is when Rush became Rush for the drummer, the
<v Speaker 4>master of percussion, God rest his soul. This was the
<v Speaker 4>album where he felt like they became who they were.
<v Speaker 7>Quick overview on the album, real quick, before we dive
<v Speaker 7>into the track by track guys with you Guys. This
<v Speaker 7>is their eighth studio album. This is released February twelfth,
<v Speaker 7>nineteen eighty one. This is their biggest seller in the
<v Speaker 7>United States. It topped out on the Billboard two hundred
<v Speaker 7>at number three.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, the.
<v Speaker 6>Two albums that were in front of.
<v Speaker 1>It, yes, care to guess? Okay, so this when was.
<v Speaker 7>The This was March of nineteen eighty one, March of eight,
<v Speaker 7>March twenty eighth, nineteen eighty one.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh is it? Is it going to be
<v Speaker 1>something like Air Supply or Christopher Cross. No, that's a
<v Speaker 1>good guess, though, what do you guys think.
<v Speaker 8>I don't even know.
<v Speaker 5>High Infidelity album that you guys just covered that came
<v Speaker 5>out like two months before.
<v Speaker 7>High Infidelity is the number one album in the country California.
<v Speaker 8>What's that right, Hotel California.
<v Speaker 6>No, good guess.
<v Speaker 7>The actual album that comes in second is Paradise Theater
<v Speaker 7>by Styx, which High in Fidelity kind of battled with
<v Speaker 7>as the number one album of nineteen eighty one. So
<v Speaker 7>all right, I want to go over the cover real quick,
<v Speaker 7>because this is about all I have to offer on this.
<v Speaker 7>But so the album is called Moving Pictures. There you go,
<v Speaker 7>Thank you, Tim. And if you look at the album,
<v Speaker 7>it's a triple on tundra.
<v Speaker 1>A triple onra. Yes, because there are guys moving pictures.
<v Speaker 7>Because the guys are carrying pictures there. There are albums
<v Speaker 7>moving pictures. Then you have people down here who are
<v Speaker 7>crying because they're being moved by the pictures. And then
<v Speaker 7>you've got people in the back who are filled the
<v Speaker 7>moving pictures, which is.
<v Speaker 6>Moving pictures of moving pictures.
<v Speaker 1>Brilliant.
<v Speaker 6>How about that.
<v Speaker 8>There's three columns in there too. Oh yeah, yeah, then yeah.
<v Speaker 5>This was actually taken at the Ontario Toronto Ontario Legislative Building,
<v Speaker 5>which is kind of the equivalent to the Governor of
<v Speaker 5>the state guess is in downtown Toronto. This shoot cost
<v Speaker 5>them nine thousand dollars to do. The record label said,
<v Speaker 5>we're not paying that much money for an album cover.
<v Speaker 5>So Rush the band actually had a front up I
<v Speaker 5>think about seven thousand of that so they could get
<v Speaker 5>the album covers that they wanted. I'm going to submit
<v Speaker 5>that there's actually a fourth on Tondra in this all right,
<v Speaker 5>If you go in the in the inside, there's this
<v Speaker 5>photo here And I got this fourth on Tondra from
<v Speaker 5>my friend Steve and Jerry over at the Rush. Oh yeah,
<v Speaker 5>this is something for Nothing podcast, And here's Geddy, Neil
<v Speaker 5>and Alex. It's kind of a blurred photo. They're moving
<v Speaker 5>as the picture is being taken.
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome.
<v Speaker 4>So these guys they decide, maybe we're not going to
<v Speaker 4>push so hard to make such complex music because it's
<v Speaker 4>exhausting to have to play this night after night after night.
<v Speaker 4>And they decide to put together this album and have
<v Speaker 4>a bit of a different sensibility than they've had in
<v Speaker 4>their past albums, and they come out of the gate
<v Speaker 4>with an absolute banger. This is track number one. I'm Sawyer.
<v Speaker 9>A Monday Warrior, Mean Me trying Today's Tom Sawyer Mean
<v Speaker 9>Me Right.
<v Speaker 4>Again. Oh my gosh, what a fantastic intro. And now,
<v Speaker 4>I mean I grew up with this, so I I've
<v Speaker 4>always loved this song. But Jason and I have talked
<v Speaker 4>a lot about how big of Ready Player one fans
<v Speaker 4>we are, and obviously the rush twenty one to twelve
<v Speaker 4>is a big factor in the book. But then when
<v Speaker 4>they came out with the movie, I remember the trailer
<v Speaker 4>dropping and all of the IOI guys jumping into their
<v Speaker 4>cars as Tom Sawry was playing. I was like, that's
<v Speaker 4>a good pick. That's a good pick for a trailer
<v Speaker 4>for this movie. You guys, Ready Ready Player One fans
<v Speaker 4>haven't seen it.
<v Speaker 8>I haven't seen it either.
<v Speaker 1>You guys don't read it. Book.
<v Speaker 4>Read the book. It's so freaking good. It's it's all
<v Speaker 4>kinds of Shirley Gold.
<v Speaker 1>They're really nice.
<v Speaker 7>It's fantastic. So this is an all time Hall of
<v Speaker 7>Fame banger. Brad, what can you tell us about Tom Sweyer?
<v Speaker 8>I know it was one that not many of the
<v Speaker 8>band members liked, and it was kind of just a
<v Speaker 8>happened chance that they even recorded the song. It was
<v Speaker 8>they were doing a collaboration with the Canadian band Max Webster,
<v Speaker 8>and it was just some doodling that Pie du Bois
<v Speaker 8>their lyricists had written down and it was actually called
<v Speaker 8>Louis the Lawyer before this, if I'm not mistaken.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's right. Yeah, how far that song gone kept
<v Speaker 5>with that name?
<v Speaker 6>Yea the Lawyer? He said, we hate lawyers around.
<v Speaker 8>They can see what you can do with it, and
<v Speaker 8>he obviously didn't like the name Louis the Lawyer. And
<v Speaker 8>Neil Pierrett does what Neil Peart does and strings together
<v Speaker 8>all these lyrics and there comes Tom Sawyer. But yeah,
<v Speaker 8>it's like the Eagles Hotel California or Stairway to Heaven.
<v Speaker 8>It's their song like that, and everybody knows it. And
<v Speaker 8>if you ever heard Rush, that's probably the song that
<v Speaker 8>introduced you to Rush.
<v Speaker 6>That's right.
<v Speaker 4>That's an interesting note because I agree with you one
<v Speaker 4>hundred percent. If you don't know, if you only know
<v Speaker 4>one Rush song, it's going to be Tom Sawyer. But
<v Speaker 4>this did this song chart forty four forty four. So
<v Speaker 4>out of all of the Rush golden perfectly executed musically
<v Speaker 4>genius songs, there's been one song that cracked the top
<v Speaker 4>forty and this wasn't it.
<v Speaker 1>And it didn't even crack the top twenty.
<v Speaker 8>An album with five times platinum.
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Okay, I'm sorry it interrupts, but I mean, do
<v Speaker 7>you want to know the songs at the top of
<v Speaker 7>the charts the week that this peaked at number forty four?
<v Speaker 1>You know that we bobbing it up here, you know.
<v Speaker 7>So the song right above it was some crap by
<v Speaker 7>gary Us Bonds. Okay, So at forty three, gary Us
<v Speaker 7>Bonds is keeping Rush below him.
<v Speaker 6>Okay.
<v Speaker 7>But August first, nineteen eighty one, we talked about that
<v Speaker 7>as being a significant date because.
<v Speaker 1>It was the day THATTV MTV date.
<v Speaker 6>You that's right.
<v Speaker 7>So that day top Sawyer tops out at number forty four.
<v Speaker 7>The top five that week, Number five Elvira by the
<v Speaker 7>Oakrage Boys. Number four, I Don't Need You by Kenny Rogers.
<v Speaker 7>I don't even remember that one, right, Number three, the
<v Speaker 7>greatest American zero theme song.
<v Speaker 1>That's a great song.
<v Speaker 7>Number two the one that You Love by Air Supply.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought they'd be up there.
<v Speaker 7>Number one in is Jesse's Girl. Oh sure, okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 7>well but here's the trivia question. I want to drop
<v Speaker 7>on you guys, especially you two. Okay, So Dee has
<v Speaker 7>mentioned that there's another song that topped out higher than
<v Speaker 7>this one. But there is a song sung by Geddy
<v Speaker 7>Lee that got all the way to number twenty four
<v Speaker 7>on the chart. It's the highest charting song with Geddy
<v Speaker 7>Lee as the singer.
<v Speaker 6>Do you know what.
<v Speaker 5>Take Off?
<v Speaker 6>You got it man? The song take Off by the
<v Speaker 6>Mackenzie Brothers. Okay, everyone, this record was my idea get out.
<v Speaker 5>It was you're lying eating the moushit here just sort
<v Speaker 5>of writ on my coattail.
<v Speaker 1>Why are you doing this? It was our ideas together.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, okay, okay, we agreed to say that.
<v Speaker 7>It's a beauty way decent your name, Yeah, Bob and
<v Speaker 7>Doug McKenzie. And the song is take Off is a ridiculous,
<v Speaker 7>funny song by the guys who made Strange Brew That's
<v Speaker 7>fantastic sung by Getty Lee.
<v Speaker 5>Did you know that Getty and Rick Moranis both went
<v Speaker 5>to school together.
<v Speaker 6>They were in the same class. That to me fascinating.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so is Rick Morani is Jewish?
<v Speaker 5>I believe he is?
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I was going to say, because I know that
<v Speaker 4>that Getty Lee being a Jewish kid in that school
<v Speaker 4>was a unique experience for him. By the way, interesting that,
<v Speaker 4>like the two founding members of the band, Getty Lee
<v Speaker 4>and Alex Livesong both like they both their families came
<v Speaker 4>over from the war. His parents, Getty's had been in
<v Speaker 4>concentration camps. Alex's folks came over from you the Slavia.
<v Speaker 4>His dad had been a prisoner of war over there.
<v Speaker 4>And they became fast friends. Not necessarily because of that,
<v Speaker 4>but they they were friends from a very young age,
<v Speaker 4>even before they were playing music.
<v Speaker 8>Getty's parents actually met at the concentration camp, sent letters
<v Speaker 8>back and forth through some of the guards they curried
<v Speaker 8>favor with, and then found each other after the liberation
<v Speaker 8>of the camp. So it's really a miracle that he's
<v Speaker 8>even around.
<v Speaker 7>That is insane romance happening in the camps. Man, Yeah,
<v Speaker 7>that's crazy.
<v Speaker 1>That's a movie worthy topic, right, it really is.
<v Speaker 8>If you've not ever read Getty's biography in life, it's fantastic.
<v Speaker 8>It's a really good read.
<v Speaker 6>You know.
<v Speaker 7>I was listening to it and he talked about the
<v Speaker 7>fact that I think his original like his real first
<v Speaker 7>name is Gershawn, yeah, yeah, yeah, and so his anglicized
<v Speaker 7>name was Gary. And so whenever he was hanging out
<v Speaker 7>with his friends and his mom would pull up in
<v Speaker 7>the car, roll down the window and.
<v Speaker 6>Say, Getty, Getty, get into the car.
<v Speaker 7>That's how he got the name Getty because it's a
<v Speaker 7>Polish accented garyt.
<v Speaker 6>My dad's name is Gary.
<v Speaker 7>And I couldn't wait to tell him that fantastic song.
<v Speaker 7>One of the best drumming songs of all time. And
<v Speaker 7>I believe the guitar solo, even the guitar haarsol is blistering,
<v Speaker 7>but it's Alex Lifson just kind of winging it on
<v Speaker 7>the guitar solo that he took three or four takes,
<v Speaker 7>but really it was just kind of feel.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>That's where Neil and Alex are very different in that regard.
<v Speaker 5>Neil is very meticulous about his drum parts and he
<v Speaker 5>will do the exact same drum part like when he
<v Speaker 5>started when they started performing Tom Sawyer forty years ago.
<v Speaker 5>His drum parts really have not changed from the Moving
<v Speaker 5>Pictures tour right up until the last tour they are
<v Speaker 5>forty tour, it was basically the same thing. But Alex
<v Speaker 5>is more like, I'm just going to go in and
<v Speaker 5>just noodle around, wing something and then see how it
<v Speaker 5>turns out.
<v Speaker 6>All right.
<v Speaker 7>Next song on the album is called Red Barquetta.
<v Speaker 5>No one knows.
<v Speaker 4>About okay, So on this song, what comes through clearly
<v Speaker 4>to me is the reminder that this is a power trio.
<v Speaker 4>You've got guitar, you've got bass, and you've got drums.
<v Speaker 4>Now we go back to Tom Sawyer. They got stuff
<v Speaker 4>going on that's none of that stuff. So you guys
<v Speaker 4>help us out. What's where do the keyboard sounds come from?
<v Speaker 1>With these guys?
<v Speaker 8>Yet he actually has pedals that he plays, why he
<v Speaker 8>plays bass are synced into his keyboards. I really don't
<v Speaker 8>know how he does all he does at the front
<v Speaker 8>of the stage. It's pretty amazing. I can't imagine even
<v Speaker 8>singing in front of people, much less playing the bass
<v Speaker 8>and keyboards at the same time.
<v Speaker 1>But he finds a way. He's singing, playing the bass
<v Speaker 1>and playing the keyboards with his feet.
<v Speaker 4>Chris, that's incredible. I've heard that he also moves the
<v Speaker 4>microphone with his nose. Yeah, it's his answerful.
<v Speaker 6>That a nose joke. No really really.
<v Speaker 8>Tim Kmerfort from Rage Against the Machine I think is
<v Speaker 8>the one who said that in the document, and he's like,
<v Speaker 8>he's got a big nose and he uses it well,
<v Speaker 8>you know.
<v Speaker 6>All right?
<v Speaker 7>So I read that this song was written and inspired
<v Speaker 7>by a Ferrari one sixty six mm Barkeetta, right, am?
<v Speaker 6>I right about that? What do you know about that?
<v Speaker 1>Tim?
<v Speaker 5>I don't know the car exactly, but I do know
<v Speaker 5>that Neil was quite a car enthusiast right from a
<v Speaker 5>very early age. In fact, he had he had quite
<v Speaker 5>a collection of cars, mostly silver. He called them the
<v Speaker 5>Silver Surfers and uh. He had a bunch of very
<v Speaker 5>classic cars back in the sixties and seventies, and shortly
<v Speaker 5>after his path twenty one that collection sold an auction
<v Speaker 5>for four million bucks. Unfortunately, I was not the high bidder.
<v Speaker 5>But I think in the original the Richard Foster the
<v Speaker 5>Short Story, they talked about a nice morning drive. I
<v Speaker 5>think there it was originally an MG. It was Neil.
<v Speaker 5>Neil decided to need something with a bit more pep,
<v Speaker 5>so he chose me.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So Neil's dad actually owned a parts store when
<v Speaker 4>he was grown up.
<v Speaker 1>Is that right?
<v Speaker 5>That's right? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So Jason, you may not know this, or you may.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>So he obviously he was not the first drummer that
<v Speaker 4>Rush had. They were signed. They put out an album,
<v Speaker 4>the guy that they had before. We can tell his
<v Speaker 4>story in a minute, but right now, for Neil part they.
<v Speaker 1>Had to let that guy go.
<v Speaker 4>They needed a new drummer who could learn everything. In
<v Speaker 4>a couple of weeks, Neil was working at his dad's
<v Speaker 4>parts store, playing for just another local band. You guys
<v Speaker 4>got the name of the local band that he was
<v Speaker 4>in before the Jay flood. Yeah, so he literally he
<v Speaker 4>gets a phone call. Actually, I think I don't think
<v Speaker 4>he got a phone call. I think they showed up
<v Speaker 4>at the parts store and they said, hey, we need
<v Speaker 4>to talk to you about being a drummer for this
<v Speaker 4>band and he couldn't believe the reality of it at all,
<v Speaker 4>and then went and auditioned and was like, yeah, I
<v Speaker 4>ruined that.
<v Speaker 1>And when he had walked into the audition.
<v Speaker 4>Both Alex and Geddy were like, Eh, this guy doesn't
<v Speaker 4>really have one hair, he doesn't look like one of us.
<v Speaker 4>He's kind of gangly, looks a little nerdy. But when
<v Speaker 4>he started playing, They're like, well that's our guy.
<v Speaker 1>Wow.
<v Speaker 4>And so he went home thinking he had flubbed the audition,
<v Speaker 4>and then they called him and said we want you,
<v Speaker 4>and he had to go to his dad and say,
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what to do. He didn't say I
<v Speaker 4>gotta go do this. He said I don't know what
<v Speaker 4>to do. And his dad God bless and said part
<v Speaker 4>store will always be here.
<v Speaker 6>That's great, Go do this, that's great. I love it. Okay.
<v Speaker 7>So the song was inspired by a futuristic short story
<v Speaker 7>called A Nice Morning Drive, which was published in nineteen
<v Speaker 7>seventy three in roadent Track magazine, written by the guy
<v Speaker 7>named Richard Foster. Like you said, Tim, and I found
<v Speaker 7>it interesting They pert who wrote the lyrics to this
<v Speaker 7>song had tried to meet this guy, Richard Foster over
<v Speaker 7>the years and finally got a hold.
<v Speaker 6>Of him in two thousand and seven.
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.
<v Speaker 7>It seems to me that if Rush writes a song
<v Speaker 7>about an article that I write, the first thing I'm
<v Speaker 7>gonna do is try to meet these guys. You know so,
<v Speaker 7>But it took over twenty five years to meet together.
<v Speaker 4>Well, and it's interesting that he's he's out there trying
<v Speaker 4>to meet this guy, because I've heard him say he
<v Speaker 4>was he was the guy in the band that didn't
<v Speaker 4>go meet the fans.
<v Speaker 1>He didn't.
<v Speaker 4>It made him uncomfortable when people would approach him in
<v Speaker 4>the street. He just was like, it wasn't that he
<v Speaker 4>was mad at people, just embarrassed him. And I can
<v Speaker 4>remember him saying, He's like, I was a Who?
<v Speaker 1>Was he a fan of?
<v Speaker 5>He is a big fan of the Who?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Who? That's right.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, he was like, I was the biggest fanboy of
<v Speaker 4>the Who in the world, but I didn't want to
<v Speaker 4>go try to track them down and talk to them.
<v Speaker 4>That's weird. It's a weird thing to do. I guess
<v Speaker 4>it's different if you're a story writer, right right.
<v Speaker 5>They did give credit to Richard Foster on the album
<v Speaker 5>Got It Right Here. Yeah, it says, yeah, a story
<v Speaker 5>inspired by Richard Foster for a nice morning drive, so
<v Speaker 5>they did give him credit on the album liner notes
<v Speaker 5>love it. I think they were kind of hoping that
<v Speaker 5>Richard Foster would buy the album and see that and
<v Speaker 5>then maybe initiate a conversation with Neil that I guess
<v Speaker 5>that didn't work all right.
<v Speaker 7>Rolling Stone ranks this as their fifth greatest song of
<v Speaker 7>all time.
<v Speaker 6>Wow, how about that?
<v Speaker 8>It's my favorite song on the album.
<v Speaker 6>This is your favorite song?
<v Speaker 8>It's my favorite song.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I've seen probably mine as well. It's just a
<v Speaker 5>kind of takes you.
<v Speaker 8>On a little journey and you kind of, you know,
<v Speaker 8>ride with it, and it's just I don't know, it's all.
<v Speaker 7>I saw a bumper sticker that said my other car
<v Speaker 7>is a red Barketta.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's.
<v Speaker 6>About that. The rush guys that sent us that picture,
<v Speaker 6>Yeah I saw that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>But the lyrics are so cinematic, like just the way
<v Speaker 5>Neil describes the story, you know, wind in my hair,
<v Speaker 5>shifting and drifting, mechanical music, adrenaline surge, like you just
<v Speaker 5>you can just sit back in your headphones and just
<v Speaker 5>imagine like driving through the countryside, like just going going
<v Speaker 5>for broken your Ferrari. So, yeah, just amazingly you mentioned.
<v Speaker 8>The headphones too, and I think that's why I'm such
<v Speaker 8>a big Rush. One of the reasons I'm such a
<v Speaker 8>big Rush bank in the audio file and their music
<v Speaker 8>always just sounds stellar with a good over their headphones.
<v Speaker 8>There's nothing better.
<v Speaker 1>But do you guys, who was the producer on this album?
<v Speaker 8>Terry Brown?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what else has he done?
<v Speaker 8>He was their producer for a long time and then
<v Speaker 8>they got rid of him. I guess when was it, presto,
<v Speaker 8>it was a different way or before that?
<v Speaker 7>Maybe let's look if only we had a pocket computer
<v Speaker 7>that would tell us the same. Hey, okay, So Terry
<v Speaker 7>Brown has been involved with such albums as The Who
<v Speaker 7>He was the engineer, the Jimmy Hinders Experience, he was
<v Speaker 7>the engineer.
<v Speaker 1>Wow.
<v Speaker 7>A guy named Moe Kaufman did a lot with them,
<v Speaker 7>Rush Max Webster, who's the other Canadian band band we
<v Speaker 7>talked about earlier? Rush Rush Rush, Rush, Cutting Crew, Wow,
<v Speaker 7>Cutting Crew.
<v Speaker 6>I just died in yours.
<v Speaker 1>I just died in you. How about that?
<v Speaker 6>Then, Dream Theater Cutting Crew?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, April Wine, Apaw, April Wine in there as well, Aper.
<v Speaker 7>Wyne If you c k hilare lever. All right, We're
<v Speaker 7>ready for.
<v Speaker 1>The next one. Do it so? Number three next.
<v Speaker 6>Song on the album is called why why Z?
<v Speaker 1>It's not called did I do that?
<v Speaker 5>Right?
<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, I'm calling this is my favorite song on
<v Speaker 4>the album. I love this song and I'm so glad.
<v Speaker 4>So Brad texted Jason and I this morning. Brad, you
<v Speaker 4>get a theory on where you think, at least the
<v Speaker 4>rhythm of this song comes from.
<v Speaker 8>Right, Yeah, I've read a bunch of different things, none
<v Speaker 8>of them really been substantiated. I've read where it was
<v Speaker 8>just a jam that Alex and Getty were kind of
<v Speaker 8>doing and Neil jumped in one day. But I've also
<v Speaker 8>I listened to a lot of the cool jazz era
<v Speaker 8>of jazz. I like that a lot, and I particularly
<v Speaker 8>like Dave Brubeck. And there is a song called Blue
<v Speaker 8>Rondo All the Turk, and it's filled with tons of
<v Speaker 8>time signatures, and I can't listen to that without thinking
<v Speaker 8>about why wized?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we got to listen to that real quick. Hold on.
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, it sounds like Neil has taken the rhythm section
<v Speaker 4>of the piano and the.
<v Speaker 1>Horns that da da da da da da da da
<v Speaker 1>da da da d d D and put it with
<v Speaker 1>his drums. I mean it seems spot on to me.
<v Speaker 1>I think you gotta be right.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.
<v Speaker 8>And then his dad I found out his dad was
<v Speaker 8>a Dabrubek fan and he grew up listening to jazz
<v Speaker 8>and he did a lot of Buddy Rich tributes and
<v Speaker 8>stuff like that. So, I mean it makes a lot
<v Speaker 8>of sense. I've not found anything that, you know, corroborates that,
<v Speaker 8>but it's got to be there somewhere.
<v Speaker 1>Hey, somebody's got to say it first. Let it be you.
<v Speaker 1>Why not?
<v Speaker 6>Well, okay, let me just tell you what I've heard.
<v Speaker 7>Maybe this is an urban legend, but I heard that
<v Speaker 7>it comes from the like the I A T A
<v Speaker 7>airport classification of the Toronto International Airport and as they like,
<v Speaker 7>Alex Liefsen was flying them in and the Toronto Airport's
<v Speaker 7>classification is why Wise and they heard the Morse code
<v Speaker 7>of that airport and they thought, well, that rhythm got
<v Speaker 7>stuck in Neil Pert's head and he said, I've got
<v Speaker 7>to put that into a song.
<v Speaker 1>Huh.
<v Speaker 6>So you know about that, tim?
<v Speaker 1>Is that right?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? That's it's Morse code for why Wise. It's it's
<v Speaker 5>that line that dots and dashes that you hear in
<v Speaker 5>morse code why Wise comes from that that So you
<v Speaker 5>can get inspiration from songs anywhere, especially if you're nerdy
<v Speaker 5>geeks like Russia's. And there's actually there's actually in Lester B.
<v Speaker 5>Pearson Airport, which is the Toronto airport with the call
<v Speaker 5>letters why Wise. There's a actually now a hy Wiz
<v Speaker 5>lounge in the airport. I think Henderson Brewing Company is
<v Speaker 5>sort of the official craft beer brewing company for a Rush,
<v Speaker 5>and so they have all their their brewis in there
<v Speaker 5>and you can get Russia heirs. I've never been in there,
<v Speaker 5>but apparently there is this yized lounge. If I ever
<v Speaker 5>go to Toronto, I'll be beheading to that lounge and
<v Speaker 5>enjoying a nice pint of rushed golden Ales.
<v Speaker 6>Fantastic.
<v Speaker 7>My son is A is a upcoming pilot, and I
<v Speaker 7>just show him a text and I just said, because
<v Speaker 7>this album's old, you know, I'm like, what's the code
<v Speaker 7>symbol for Toronto's airport?
<v Speaker 6>He text me back, whyy is he?
<v Speaker 9>So?
<v Speaker 7>By the way, this was nominated for a Grammy for
<v Speaker 7>Best Rock Instrumental in nineteen eighty two.
<v Speaker 6>I lost too.
<v Speaker 7>It lost to a song called behind My Camel.
<v Speaker 1>You know, I feel like we've talked about it before.
<v Speaker 1>Who's it by?
<v Speaker 6>It's by the Police, That's what I thought.
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking.
<v Speaker 4>It was that, Yeah, it's because this is off of synchronicity, right,
<v Speaker 4>it's off of and Okay, yeah, that's right. Andy Summer
<v Speaker 4>wrote that one.
<v Speaker 1>There you go. Okay, yeah, I thought I recognized that title.
<v Speaker 1>That's great. I don't think it's as good a song
<v Speaker 1>as this is, because this is a banger.
<v Speaker 7>By the way, I came across something I thought was
<v Speaker 7>really cool. Pitcher Randy Johnson. Hall of Fame pitcher Randy Johnson.
<v Speaker 7>He pitched for the Mariners. He pitched for the Diamondbacks.
<v Speaker 7>I think he won a World Series with the Diamondbacks
<v Speaker 7>in two thousand and one, I think. But he is
<v Speaker 7>a huge Rush fan and he's also a drummer. And
<v Speaker 7>when they retired his number in Arizona, they gave him
<v Speaker 7>a gift and it was really cool. It's like big
<v Speaker 7>thing covered up and you know, I mean, here's a
<v Speaker 7>major league picture. He's got everything in the world that
<v Speaker 7>he could possibly want. He's got fame, he's got girls,
<v Speaker 7>he's got money, and they unveiled it, and what they
<v Speaker 7>unveiled and gave him as a gift was Neil Pert's
<v Speaker 7>gold plated drum set. And he was over the moon,
<v Speaker 7>like when I say over the moon. He was beside
<v Speaker 7>himself at this gift.
<v Speaker 5>Uh.
<v Speaker 7>And it looked like super tough stud athlete became six
<v Speaker 7>years old on the field presented it to him. Okay,
<v Speaker 7>ready for the next one, All right. Next song on
<v Speaker 7>the album is called Limelight.
<v Speaker 8>M Linen stage jo J.
<v Speaker 1>Love it.
<v Speaker 6>This is my favorite song on the album. I think
<v Speaker 6>probably because it's maybe the most radio friendly song on
<v Speaker 6>the album.
<v Speaker 7>I mean, Tom Sawyer gets tons of plays, but as
<v Speaker 7>far it's a little bit closer to top forty right
<v Speaker 7>here with this one.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's got an iconic opening guitar riff. Yeah.
<v Speaker 7>This was actually the first single released February nineteen eighty one.
<v Speaker 7>This tops out at number fifty five. It doesn't get
<v Speaker 7>close to the top four. I mean, what are we
<v Speaker 7>doing here people in nineteen eighty one?
<v Speaker 6>It's crazy.
<v Speaker 4>Some things are too sophisticated for people to get behind.
<v Speaker 4>It's true, even if they are the most radio friendly
<v Speaker 4>thing on the album, right right, I mean, come on, okay,
<v Speaker 4>So They hit it big in the US because Cleveland
<v Speaker 4>radio station was listening to new albums. Their first album
<v Speaker 4>had just come out, and they get to working Man
<v Speaker 4>and they're like, this song is exactly what every guy
<v Speaker 4>in Cleveland feels like, and they start playing it on
<v Speaker 4>the radio. And as soon as they start playing it
<v Speaker 4>on the radio, the switchboards start lighting up and the
<v Speaker 4>question is, when's this new led Zeppelin album coming out? Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>it does sound like Leebelin and it's they're they're having
<v Speaker 4>to say it's not led Zeppelin, and it's not super
<v Speaker 4>easy to get the album, but it gets enough traction
<v Speaker 4>through the Cleveland radio they have I would say, a
<v Speaker 4>good success with their debut album, not so much on
<v Speaker 4>their second take.
<v Speaker 5>That's when Neil joined, and obviously the like as you said,
<v Speaker 5>the first album sounds more like, Yeah, you're typical late
<v Speaker 5>from early seventies bad Company style or led Zeppelin, as
<v Speaker 5>you've mentioned in Lagetty's High Voice. And when fly by
<v Speaker 5>Night came out their second album, of course O'Neil now
<v Speaker 5>says or he's doing the lyrics because Geddy and Alex
<v Speaker 5>didn't want to do the lyrics. They're just doing the music.
<v Speaker 5>And so O'Neil. I think the first the first song
<v Speaker 5>that he wrote for the fly By album was Beneath
<v Speaker 5>Between Behind and if you listen to that thing, it's like,
<v Speaker 5>holy crap, like just the words and this is the
<v Speaker 5>whole history of the US. And that's his first attempt
<v Speaker 5>at writing lyrics, so he knew this was going to
<v Speaker 5>be a very different style of album. I'm getting into
<v Speaker 5>bite on the snow Dog and some other stuff like that,
<v Speaker 5>So it took a very different turn. I think a
<v Speaker 5>lot of people did not take to it because it
<v Speaker 5>was so different from the first album. It took quite
<v Speaker 5>a while for Rush to gain a following after that
<v Speaker 5>first album.
<v Speaker 7>By the way, I'm just going to interject this the
<v Speaker 7>top five from April fourth, nineteen eighty one, when this
<v Speaker 7>song pops out at number fifty five, There you go.
<v Speaker 7>Number five cry In by Don McLean.
<v Speaker 6>You guys remember that.
<v Speaker 1>Yep.
<v Speaker 6>I don't know if I've ever heard.
<v Speaker 1>This in my life. No.
<v Speaker 2>No.
<v Speaker 7>Number four Kisses on My List by Hollow Notes.
<v Speaker 8>That's a good one, Yeah, I got them.
<v Speaker 6>Number three The Best of Times by.
<v Speaker 7>Sticks Okay, yeah, sorry, that's a good one, right. Number
<v Speaker 7>two Woman by John Lennon and number one, Rapture by Blonde.
<v Speaker 7>Oh right, there's some decent songs on that top five.
<v Speaker 5>Very different, very different genre there at Russia, right. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>So they follow fly By Night up with another album
<v Speaker 4>same year. Fly by Night came out February of seventy five.
<v Speaker 4>Caress of Steel comes out in September of seventy five
<v Speaker 4>and is even finding even less appeal than fly By
<v Speaker 4>Night does. And the record company is like, okay, guys,
<v Speaker 4>this isn't working anymore. We needed to do some radio
<v Speaker 4>friendly hits. You need to incorporate these things that are
<v Speaker 4>popular right now. You need to do these things with
<v Speaker 4>your lyrics, and you need to give us a radio
<v Speaker 4>friendly version or we're dropping you after this album. And they,
<v Speaker 4>being musicians who needed to make money and all had
<v Speaker 4>families that they were providing for, said why don't you.
<v Speaker 1>Go fick yourself?
<v Speaker 10>They made an album that is.
<v Speaker 1>Is it like three songs long? How how long it's
<v Speaker 1>album number four? How many songs do we have? Like?
<v Speaker 8>Well, twenty one to twelve is the entire first side
<v Speaker 8>of the album.
<v Speaker 10>Right, songs on the second side.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So the album that they come out with the
<v Speaker 1>f you the record company that we're going. If we're
<v Speaker 1>gonna go down, We're gonna go down.
<v Speaker 4>Our way is twenty one to twelve, which of course
<v Speaker 4>makes them national international phenomenons.
<v Speaker 6>Which again twenty one twelve.
<v Speaker 7>If you have never read Ready Player One's key as
<v Speaker 7>Rush fans, you guys have to because they have to
<v Speaker 7>accomplish this task through twenty one twelve.
<v Speaker 8>So I'll have to lead it.
<v Speaker 5>I'll have to check it out.
<v Speaker 1>So, guys, I've I watched you in your text thread.
<v Speaker 4>Not only were you like discussing your favorite albums and
<v Speaker 4>aspects of each of them, but you were using like
<v Speaker 4>a code for the albums that I was just like, man,
<v Speaker 4>this is just I don't know. I'm glad you guys
<v Speaker 4>are having a good time. I'm just watching here with
<v Speaker 4>eating my popcorn.
<v Speaker 1>That's right.
<v Speaker 4>But we've got I mean we after twenty one twelve,
<v Speaker 4>we have a farewell to Kings, then we have Hemispheres
<v Speaker 4>Permanent Waves, and then with the album we're talking about today,
<v Speaker 4>which is Moving Pictures. So this one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
<v Speaker 4>this is their eighth studio album. Of those eight albums,
<v Speaker 4>which one I'll start with you, Tim, which one are
<v Speaker 4>you picking as your number one album.
<v Speaker 5>My number one is Permanent Waves, which is the one
<v Speaker 5>that came out just before Moving Pictures. That's one has
<v Speaker 5>spirited radio on which you alluded to I think the
<v Speaker 5>top five of nineteen eighty. Yeah, that's my favorite album.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, Moving Pictures is a very close second in
<v Speaker 5>that regard, but I like Permanent Waves just a little
<v Speaker 5>bit better.
<v Speaker 1>Nice what about you, Brad.
<v Speaker 8>Mine's a farewell to Kings. I was introduced to Rush
<v Speaker 8>with the exit Sage Left, which was a live album
<v Speaker 8>that came out after Moving Pictures. But when I went
<v Speaker 8>and saw Rush for the first time in concert, they
<v Speaker 8>played Xanadu live and I was on the floor and
<v Speaker 8>there's just just griddle lasers over the top of you,
<v Speaker 8>and it just kind of just enveloped me and took
<v Speaker 8>me away. And then, of course Closer to the Heart
<v Speaker 8>is also on that album. It's a fantastic song. But
<v Speaker 8>the whole song, the whole album, the whole way through
<v Speaker 8>is just rock solid. It's it's my favorite. It's not
<v Speaker 8>really that close either.
<v Speaker 4>And so as far as live shows go, do you
<v Speaker 4>get would you guys say these is the best live
<v Speaker 4>show you've seen?
<v Speaker 1>Yep?
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely yeah, I would say so too. Rush has always
<v Speaker 5>been about the show, about the concerts, and most fans
<v Speaker 5>will tell you that is that I know people that
<v Speaker 5>have seen them like over one hundred times. Yeah, like
<v Speaker 5>they've for all like some some people I know followed
<v Speaker 5>them around almost groupies is going from one down one
<v Speaker 5>town of the next. So yeah, it's just it's addictive
<v Speaker 5>watching the Russian concert.
<v Speaker 8>And they actually picked up giving the fans the best
<v Speaker 8>show they could give by touring with Kiss. You know,
<v Speaker 8>they had nothing like Kiss. They said, nobody worked harder
<v Speaker 8>than Kiss to make sure fans got their money worth
<v Speaker 8>and they kind of they always kind of stuck with
<v Speaker 8>them and their tour manager, Howard Ungerlider. He actually did
<v Speaker 8>their lights and kind of learned that on the fly
<v Speaker 8>and is largely regarded as one of the best light
<v Speaker 8>guys in the business.
<v Speaker 4>Now, yeah, I heard Gene Simmons talking about touring with
<v Speaker 4>these guys and he's like, the best thing about being
<v Speaker 4>a rock musician is even ugly guys like me can
<v Speaker 4>get the girls. And so after a show, I would
<v Speaker 4>have a line of girls at the door, and here
<v Speaker 4>are all these young, good looking guys and they've got
<v Speaker 4>no girls around. I don't understand the good looking fellas
<v Speaker 4>great musicians, and where's Rush. They're at home watching TV
<v Speaker 4>in their hotel.
<v Speaker 7>There's a documentary that I watched on Rush on their
<v Speaker 7>farewell like their farewell tour or whatever. And I guess
<v Speaker 7>Alex Lifson used to do this funny thing where he
<v Speaker 7>put his hands in his pants and like put his
<v Speaker 7>hands out of his at the bottom of his pants
<v Speaker 7>and put a paper in the back his head, and
<v Speaker 7>he had this kind of funny voice and he said
<v Speaker 7>ace freely.
<v Speaker 6>Was always like, go.
<v Speaker 7>Get the bag, man, go get the bag, because he
<v Speaker 7>just thought it was the funniest thing. So, but that
<v Speaker 7>farewell tour, I saw them. They were rehearsing, and you know,
<v Speaker 7>they rehearsed for like two weeks or whatever. And it
<v Speaker 7>was in Tulsa, was at the Bok Center. It's where
<v Speaker 7>they kicked out.
<v Speaker 5>Okay, it was incredible. I mean Rush even up until
<v Speaker 5>there are forty tour where they're in their early sixties,
<v Speaker 5>no opening band. They're doing three hours of songs and
<v Speaker 5>that's that's how they do it. It's like, it's it's
<v Speaker 5>incredible what they were able to pull off.
<v Speaker 1>It's like four whole songs for them.
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and Neil Pert, who was of course aging by
<v Speaker 7>this time, was still doing every beat that he did
<v Speaker 7>forty years prior. And it's like, man, his performance, he's
<v Speaker 7>like an athlete.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you'd have to be.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, we'll see.
<v Speaker 5>He was riding motorcycle for probably ten hours of that dating.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's right, that's right. Okay.
<v Speaker 7>Next time in the album is a song called the
<v Speaker 7>Camera Eye.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So I remember when these guys when they first
<v Speaker 4>started playing together. Of course they're just playing, you know,
<v Speaker 4>high school dances and stuff like that. They have a
<v Speaker 4>different drummer and lyricist, John Rutzy, but they had they
<v Speaker 4>had listened to several bands, but they weren't particular clearly
<v Speaker 4>into the popular bands at the time.
<v Speaker 1>They were listening to.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, we've covered we did obviously broad rock band of
<v Speaker 4>the seventies. And the other one of the other bands
<v Speaker 4>they mentioned was Pink Floyd. This song to me is
<v Speaker 4>from my ear is a blending of those two styles,
<v Speaker 4>a blending of the Rush and Pink Floyd vibe.
<v Speaker 1>If you will, what do you guys.
<v Speaker 8>Think If you listen to the first part of this
<v Speaker 8>song and you can hear some hustle and bustle of
<v Speaker 8>a big city. There's cars and honking flin that's actually
<v Speaker 8>taken from the nineteen seventy eight Superman movie and meals.
<v Speaker 8>You know, he actually came up with this song by
<v Speaker 8>walking through both the cities of London and New York
<v Speaker 8>and just kind of picking up on the goings around
<v Speaker 8>the sounds and sights of all those those two cities.
<v Speaker 1>That's very I mean, that's very Pink Floyd to pull that.
<v Speaker 8>What do you think I never thought about that, uh,
<v Speaker 8>that relationship, but it does kind of have some Pink
<v Speaker 8>Floyd apt aspects to it.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I hadn't thought of that either, So thanks to.
<v Speaker 6>Sometimes it takes a new guy to point out something,
<v Speaker 6>you know.
<v Speaker 5>Right, Yeah, But Neil actually had spent some time in
<v Speaker 5>London before joining Rush. He was hoping to may I
<v Speaker 5>think it was in the late sixties. There's somebody maybe
<v Speaker 5>Brad you know better, But he was in London at
<v Speaker 5>some point trying to make and he obviously didn't make
<v Speaker 5>it and he came back and rejoined his dad's parts
<v Speaker 5>company again there. So he had some experience in London there,
<v Speaker 5>so he probably had some lyrics and things like that.
<v Speaker 5>Knowing about his head when he spends. But I mean
<v Speaker 5>camera is pretty cool. It's actually it's actually the last
<v Speaker 5>ten minute plus song that rushed recorded.
<v Speaker 7>Yes, it was this is I mean, just to show
<v Speaker 7>you how intelligent Neil Pert is. I think the title
<v Speaker 7>came from a John the dos Passos novel looking at
<v Speaker 7>America in the Depression. I mean, rather than just calling
<v Speaker 7>it London rocks, you know it just the stuff that
<v Speaker 7>he comes up with is much deeper lyrically, super deep.
<v Speaker 7>Sometimes I don't even know what they're talking about.
<v Speaker 1>So well, I think that's not uncommon.
<v Speaker 8>You go back to Limelight. He actually quotes Shakespeare in there.
<v Speaker 8>What rott musician doesn't quote Shakespeare?
<v Speaker 4>Right mentioned John Rutzy. He was the guy, and when
<v Speaker 4>they did their first album, they had leaned on him
<v Speaker 4>to be the lyricist, and once it was time for
<v Speaker 4>the lyrics, John Rutzy was like, I hate these and
<v Speaker 4>just tore them up. And so they had to they
<v Speaker 4>had to. Alex and Getty had to come up with
<v Speaker 4>the lyrics on the fly. I think it was mostly
<v Speaker 4>Alex that came up with most of the lyrics for
<v Speaker 4>their debut album. But then of course once they brought
<v Speaker 4>in Neil, and they first at looking at him, going
<v Speaker 4>this dude's a nerd, like, we're going to have a nerd,
<v Speaker 4>you a nerd in our band, And then they realized
<v Speaker 4>the beauty of not only is this this incredible drummer,
<v Speaker 4>but he's always reading the guy's vocabulary is insane.
<v Speaker 1>They're like, why don't we have him write the words?
<v Speaker 1>He's got all the words, have him write those down. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and that's how he got that job, all right.
<v Speaker 7>Next song on the album is a song called witch Hunt.
<v Speaker 5>We just started in the flickering line bases on Twisted
<v Speaker 5>and Grotesque, singing inside in the soldering.
<v Speaker 6>Night, moves like games.
<v Speaker 5>Wyatt consints calm in their ride, in their ways on past.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so let's have a song with a minute long
<v Speaker 4>build involving the dissonant sounds of wind shines and make
<v Speaker 4>everyone terrified by the time we get into this rocking
<v Speaker 4>guitar riff.
<v Speaker 1>What do you guys think about the sun?
<v Speaker 5>Oh, it's it's very dark. The opening minute album you're
<v Speaker 5>talking above the where there's wind chises and apparently that
<v Speaker 5>was the rush and the crew going outside the studio
<v Speaker 5>there on a very cold night in December with a
<v Speaker 5>couple of bottles of Scots said, Oh, let's just do
<v Speaker 5>a bunch of ranting and raving, drink ourselves silly, And
<v Speaker 5>that's what came out of that. And uh, they went
<v Speaker 5>on afterwards say that was one of the best moments
<v Speaker 5>we ever had in recording that album. In particularly, they
<v Speaker 5>just had a lot of fun with that one.
<v Speaker 4>I can see that it's it is definitely unsettling, but
<v Speaker 4>as that moment as the conception of a song, that's
<v Speaker 4>got to be pretty fun.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 8>This actually has one of my favorite verses that Neil
<v Speaker 8>ever wrote, and it's the very end of the song.
<v Speaker 8>It's it's very pertinent to today's world too. So it's
<v Speaker 8>quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand, ignorance
<v Speaker 8>and prejudice and fear walcan in hand. Yeah, those few
<v Speaker 8>lines that just say so much. But it's it's very
<v Speaker 8>still appropriate today. Yeah, with social media, you know, I
<v Speaker 8>can't believe everything you read and that kind of thing. Yeah,
<v Speaker 8>I always liked that part of the song.
<v Speaker 7>I do show that this song was recorded the same
<v Speaker 7>day that John Lennon was shot, and so as they're
<v Speaker 7>kind of working on it, you know, one guy would
<v Speaker 7>go in the other room and be like, oh my gosh,
<v Speaker 7>look at this.
<v Speaker 5>It's on the news.
<v Speaker 7>John Lennon was shot and killed. Yeah, so that all
<v Speaker 7>this was taking place at that very night.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, pretty well.
<v Speaker 7>Okay, last song on the album. This song is called
<v Speaker 7>Vital Signs.
<v Speaker 4>So this song, to me is somebody who's never heard
<v Speaker 4>Rush for the first time and they listen into this,
<v Speaker 4>They're going to go, what kind of music is this?
<v Speaker 1>And the only answer is it's Rush. This does not
<v Speaker 1>fall into any other category. Like I can't. I can't
<v Speaker 1>think of any similar song in the volumes of music
<v Speaker 1>that we've talked about and listen to. I can't think
<v Speaker 1>of anything that sounds like this.
<v Speaker 8>I'm sorry to catch off. If you listen closely. This
<v Speaker 8>is when he was hanging out with Stuart Copeland a lot.
<v Speaker 8>This is very much a police song.
<v Speaker 5>I can see that actually rhythm Andy Summer's guitar at
<v Speaker 5>the beginning, and he he said, he admits as much.
<v Speaker 8>He's like, you know, I loved what they were doing,
<v Speaker 8>and they were always on the turntable, and I was
<v Speaker 8>really really into them at that point.
<v Speaker 4>And we've got the they've got the arpeggio, the keys
<v Speaker 4>going right there, the arpeggio synthesizer going on, and.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I suppose I can hear a little
<v Speaker 1>bit of a Police in it, but I don't know
<v Speaker 1>that I would say.
<v Speaker 8>Picture, yeah, yeah, it would work.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the Police were some unique stuff back then too. Though.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I like the song. I think this is a
<v Speaker 6>good one. It's a good closer for me.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's one of their better deep tracks.
<v Speaker 5>I think it's one of the songs to me that
<v Speaker 5>brings down the rest of the album. It just i've
<v Speaker 5>never really I wouldn't call it a skipper. It's still
<v Speaker 5>a very good song, but it's just so different from
<v Speaker 5>everything else that they were doing up until that point,
<v Speaker 5>and including the album. I mean, I'm glad they didn't
<v Speaker 5>end the album with witch Hunt because I just would
<v Speaker 5>have told you you just would have gone right, give
<v Speaker 5>me something uplifting, please, So I mean, I'm glad they
<v Speaker 5>did it. Apparently they did this song. They recorded the
<v Speaker 5>song in one day. Neil had the lyrics and he
<v Speaker 5>came in with him and Alex and Getty read the
<v Speaker 5>music and they recorded it all done in one day.
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, it's it's a song that the band really
<v Speaker 5>loved and I guess they played it quite extensively for
<v Speaker 5>the next three tours or so, just hoping that the
<v Speaker 5>fans would accept it. I think it took them a
<v Speaker 5>little while for the fans to really gain a prop
<v Speaker 5>appreciation of the song.
<v Speaker 6>Interesting.
<v Speaker 5>One of the notes I have is basically like trying
<v Speaker 5>to analyze the lyrics and it's kind of like, what
<v Speaker 5>what are they talking about?
<v Speaker 7>What?
<v Speaker 5>What is the story behind this? And the one thing
<v Speaker 5>I got is basically it's computer, scientific and medical metaphors
<v Speaker 5>to maintain individual integrity. It's always like deviating from the norm,
<v Speaker 5>elevating above the norm. That's mentioned a few times there
<v Speaker 5>in the song.
<v Speaker 8>What do you think, Brad, Yeah, I mean that's I
<v Speaker 8>don't have anything else other than that. That's you know,
<v Speaker 8>It's always just kind of stuck out to me because,
<v Speaker 8>like I said, so, such a different sounding song, certainly
<v Speaker 8>different sounding for a rush song. Even even that, Yeah,
<v Speaker 8>that reggae rhythm run at the first kind of hooks
<v Speaker 8>me in and yeah, it's it's a good song. It's
<v Speaker 8>it's one of my favorite deep cuts that they did.
<v Speaker 7>Okay, well, that brings us to the end of Moving Pictures.
<v Speaker 7>Let's bring back Doug Gray. From last week, and let's
<v Speaker 7>hear his final judgment between Rio speed Wagons High Infidelity
<v Speaker 7>Album and Rush Moving Pictures.
<v Speaker 9>So in my opinion, I'm not a big Rush fan,
<v Speaker 9>obviously since I'm not talking about that album. But Ario
<v Speaker 9>Speak Wagon is something that I'm going to play forward, backwards, sideways.
<v Speaker 9>I'm going to put it on my phone on a
<v Speaker 9>CD player, on a cassette tape. Told Jayson, I don't
<v Speaker 9>play vinyl, but if I did, I played there too,
<v Speaker 9>So for me, it's high infidelity.
<v Speaker 1>Love it all right?
<v Speaker 7>Thanks Dougman, Doug Chos, are you Speedwag?
<v Speaker 1>Yes?
<v Speaker 4>Not surprising right at all. Right, I have a feeling
<v Speaker 4>I know which way two of the other votes are
<v Speaker 4>going to go. So guys, you know, tell us. I'm
<v Speaker 4>not going to prejudge for you, but tell us which
<v Speaker 4>album you're picking. And if you've got experience with high infidelity,
<v Speaker 4>give us that too. And if you get something you
<v Speaker 4>know you want to say in depth about your love
<v Speaker 4>of Rush, hit us with that too.
<v Speaker 8>Look, I really like R speed Wagon also. I was
<v Speaker 8>trying to see them. I guess it was about a
<v Speaker 8>year ago. They were going to be turning again with
<v Speaker 8>sticks and coming to Jackson, Mississippi, and I was gonna
<v Speaker 8>try to catch it, and then I guess kind of
<v Speaker 8>RSP and kind of broke up. I think they're kind
<v Speaker 8>of back together now again. I'm not sure what the
<v Speaker 8>Kevin Cronin was touring by himself doing the music of
<v Speaker 8>RISP again, but I've always liked Kevin Cronin's voice, and
<v Speaker 8>I always thought Gary Richraff was a great guitarist as well,
<v Speaker 8>and didn't get enough credit because he was in more
<v Speaker 8>of a soft rock band. He's kind of like Terry
<v Speaker 8>cath in Chicago, fantastic guitar player. He just, you know,
<v Speaker 8>kind of his own little element there. But I really
<v Speaker 8>liked Rspeedwagon. But having said that, I mean, Rush is
<v Speaker 8>my all time favorite band, and they always have been.
<v Speaker 8>I mean I was exposed to him when I was
<v Speaker 8>about twelve years old and I've been listening to him
<v Speaker 8>ever since, and both fantastic albums. I still listened to
<v Speaker 8>Ario to this day, but Rush is I probably got
<v Speaker 8>about eight or nine different Rush playlists saved on my
<v Speaker 8>phone that I listened to just depend on what mood
<v Speaker 8>I'm in. They will always be my favorite band, moving
<v Speaker 8>pictures all day for me.
<v Speaker 1>Good how about you too.
<v Speaker 5>Well, I was in high school at the time. Maybe
<v Speaker 5>I'm the old one here fifty nine, so I think
<v Speaker 5>it was in grade ten of that year. And I
<v Speaker 5>remember Ario Speedwagon the High Infidelity album was huge in
<v Speaker 5>high school. Everybody was listening to that, and then of
<v Speaker 5>course the Moving Pictures album came out shortly after that.
<v Speaker 5>But I mean, you know, I've got some fond memories
<v Speaker 5>of Ario Speedwagon back in the day. They have some
<v Speaker 5>great songs, excellent musicians, and they made some great music.
<v Speaker 5>But now I got again for as far as consistent
<v Speaker 5>musicianship and longevity, just the lyrics of Rush, of Neil
<v Speaker 5>and what he did, and just that the fact that
<v Speaker 5>the well, Rush is a Canadian band, so I have
<v Speaker 5>a little bias there too. But there's are three great
<v Speaker 5>guys that really did not get into a whole lot
<v Speaker 5>of trouble as far as sex and drugs and all that.
<v Speaker 5>Not that they were good, clean kids, but it's just
<v Speaker 5>I guess the media for some reason, Rush always kind
<v Speaker 5>of flew a little bit under the radar, and so
<v Speaker 5>they weren't getting all the attention of maybe Kiss or
<v Speaker 5>some of the other bands were. But I think overall,
<v Speaker 5>really I have to always sign with Rush. I'm just
<v Speaker 5>they then spillits me so much over the last forty
<v Speaker 5>forty five years that I've been listening to them, and
<v Speaker 5>I just there's no other band them, So always said Rush.
<v Speaker 4>Well that's we're not surprised, and I think that's a
<v Speaker 4>that's a great take. Okay, So right now it's one
<v Speaker 4>vote Ario speed Wagon, two votes for Rush. Jason, Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go.
<v Speaker 7>Uh So, while i appreciate Rush, and I'm certainly glad
<v Speaker 7>to have you guys on here, and I'm glad we
<v Speaker 7>went through this album. I'm mostly a top forty kind
<v Speaker 7>of guy, and as Ario Speedwagon was a little more
<v Speaker 7>at the top of the top forty.
<v Speaker 6>Obviously, we talked about that.
<v Speaker 7>I if I'm walking out the door, I'm grabbing high
<v Speaker 7>in fidelity first, So that leaves you to break the tie.
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So we got two votes for Ario, two votes
<v Speaker 1>for Rush. I am the tie breaker, yes, sir, Okay.
<v Speaker 4>So these are both incredible albums, neither of which had
<v Speaker 4>I listened to in their totality before we did this podcast.
<v Speaker 4>So I'm coming into most of the song with new Ears.
<v Speaker 4>I really enjoy both albums.
<v Speaker 6>A lot.
<v Speaker 4>I think they're obviously, like you said, more radio friendly
<v Speaker 4>Ario Speedwagon songs, more Ario Speedwagon songs that I can
<v Speaker 4>sing along to, which you would think, okay, well then
<v Speaker 4>you're going to pick that one to walk out the door.
<v Speaker 4>But the musicianship with the Rush songs is so incredible,
<v Speaker 4>and the powerhouses of the radio hits of Tom Sawyer
<v Speaker 4>and of Limelight and of Why Wiz. They're so big
<v Speaker 4>and they're so unique and so precise and so amazing
<v Speaker 4>in their musicianship. I would take I'm at the end
<v Speaker 4>of the day, I'm picking moving pictures to take with
<v Speaker 4>me to just sit and listen in awe and try
<v Speaker 4>to imagine being able to play like they play and
<v Speaker 4>figure out how they do what they do.
<v Speaker 6>Actually, I thought you might do that just based on
<v Speaker 6>you being a musician.
<v Speaker 1>Thanks.
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well fantastic, Brad. Thank you for being here, Tim,
<v Speaker 7>thank you for We're so glad to have you guys,
<v Speaker 7>and get to know you guys.
<v Speaker 1>Next week, d what we got.
<v Speaker 7>Next week we are doing our top five songs of
<v Speaker 7>nineteen eighty six. You're top five, My top five, right,
<v Speaker 7>mano Imano.
<v Speaker 1>Mano Imano?
<v Speaker 4>All right, Well, okay, guys, so if you listening to
<v Speaker 4>this one, go hit your YouTube or Spotify list to
<v Speaker 4>see what songs came out in eighty six or we're
<v Speaker 4>big hits in eighty six. We're not precise about what
<v Speaker 4>makes it eighty six. Just if it's eighty six to us,
<v Speaker 4>that's what it is. It qualifies as one of the songs.
<v Speaker 4>But we will not be talking about any of the
<v Speaker 4>albums that we have covered or will be covering, So
<v Speaker 4>those are us are off the table gone. Maybe you
<v Speaker 4>unique list, So guys, come back for that one. You'll
<v Speaker 4>Hearry Jason's top five my top five.
<v Speaker 1>Guys. Thanks so much for coming and joining us.
<v Speaker 4>I am so happy that we were able to acquire
<v Speaker 4>not one, but two of the ultimate Rush fans of
<v Speaker 4>the world.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys for joining us.
<v Speaker 8>Well, thank you for having us a great time.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and again, thank you guys so much for being
<v Speaker 4>good supporters of the podcast. I can't tell you how
<v Speaker 4>much it means to us. We love all of the
<v Speaker 4>people that we've met. We love we get when we
<v Speaker 4>get to have you guys come on and co host
<v Speaker 4>with us. It's it's just amazing that we're reaching people
<v Speaker 4>for all from down in Louisiana all the way up
<v Speaker 4>to Canada. It's a it's blowing my mind. But thank
<v Speaker 4>you guys very much. We will see the rest of
<v Speaker 4>you on our next episode.
<v Speaker 6>Thanks guys.
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