White House Text Breach Fallout, New Tariffs Teased On today's podcast:

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 1) The Atlantic’s top editor said he was added to a text group in which top US officials discussed detailed plans to bomb Houthi targets in Yemen with other top US officials, an extraordinary breach of security from an administration that has repeatedly vowed to clamp down on leaks.

2) President Donald Trump said he will announce tariffs on automobile imports in the coming days — and indicated nations will receive breaks from next week’s “reciprocal” tariff

3) Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta President Raphael Bostic said he now sees just one interest-rate cut as likely this year, rather than two, with tariff hikes impeding progress on disinflation.

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Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, Radio News. 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:10.600 Good morning. 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:13.480 I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:14.960 stories we're following today. 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:17.280 Karen, we begin with what appears to be a major 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:22.000 security breach within President Trump's inner circle. A prominent Washington journalist, 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:25.360 Atlantic Editor in chief Jeffrey Goldberg, says he was included 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.440 in a high level text thread about plans to bomb 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:31.960 Hoo they targets in Yemen hours before the operation was 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:35.120 carried out. Goldberg wrote a thirty five hundred word piece 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:38.160 about it in the Atlantic and discussed it with ABC News. 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.960 I get a message request to connect with Mike Waltz, 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.400 who's a national security advisor or someone who's purporting to 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:49.319 be Mike Waltz. Not an unusual thing in Washington. I'm 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:51.920 a journalist. I've met him in the past, so I 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:52.440 accept it. 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:56.480 Jeffrey Goldberg says the chat on signal included operational details 0:00:56.480 --> 0:01:00.480 from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, including information about targets, weapons, 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:03.520 and attack sequencing. It also revealed some of the Trump 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:07.480 administration's internal power dynamics. At one point, Vice President JD. 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.360 Vance signaled he opposed the strikes, only to be shot 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.760 down by an account labeled sm Apparently White House Deputy 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:15.720 Chief of Staff Stephen Miller. 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:18.760 Well Nathan the White House National Security Council says the 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:22.919 text chain appears authentic and they're reviewing how an inadvertent 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:26.080 phone number was added to the signaled chat. Defense Secretary 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:30.039 Pete Hegseth says national security was not put at risk. 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:35.440 I've heard it was characterized nobody was texting war plans, 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:36.720 and that's all I have to say about that. 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.399 Defense Secretary Hegseeth spoke to reporters in Hawaii, and the 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.920 White House says President Trump has utmost confidence in his team, 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:48.080 including National Security Director Mike Walls. But the breach has 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:52.280 Democrats in Congress calling for hearings, including Colorado's Jason Crowe. 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.560 The House Intelligence Committee has our Worldwide Threats hearing on Wednesday, 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:56.920 and you bet there's gonna be a lot of questions 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:57.320 about this. 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:59.559 Well, it still remains to be seen what will actually 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:01.960 happen in Congress. If anything, we get more on that 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.760 from Bloomberg New Senior editor Derek Wallbank on. 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:08.360 The political side, is going to put Congressional Republicans in 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:10.720 one world of a mind, because they have so far 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:15.000 in the second Trump administration not had any appetite really 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.760 at all to try and check the White House, as 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.959 the White House has gone about doing exactly what it wants. Remember, 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:25.320 Republicans have unfettered control of Washington just about and all 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:31.000 of the Congressional committees that would lead potential investigations into 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.000 something of this nature are run by Republicans. At the 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:38.720 same time Democrats are braying for consequences, they see an 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.680 opportunity to move on to the front foot politically after 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:44.080 being really on the back foot for the entirety of 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:45.440 this administration to date. 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.639 Bloomberg's Derek Wallbank notes even harmless leaks and other agencies 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.840 have led to investigations in the FBI or from Inspectors 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:54.079 General Nathan. 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.360 Futures are lower after yesterday's big gains on Wall Street. 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.840 Stocks registered one of their best sessions of the year, 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.480 with the Nasdaq one hundred adding two point two percent. 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:06.200 Amid signs US trade sanctions will be narrower than feared, 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:09.320 President Trump also hinted that he may give some countries 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:13.240 a break on impending reciprocal tariffs. We may take less 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.880 than what they're charging because they've charged us so much, I. 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:16.960 Don't think they could take it. 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.320 In other words, they've charged us so much that I'm 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.880 embarrassed to charge them what they've charged us. 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:26.120 But it'll be substantial and you'll be hearing about that. 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:30.600 On April second, intermarkser here on Bloomberg, Trump did say 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:34.040 he will announce tariffs on automobile imports in the coming days. 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.160 Now, the latest stun efforts to end the war Ukraine, 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:39.160 karen Us and Russian officials held twelve hours of talks 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.840 in Saudi Arabia yesterday, and the two sides are expected 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.080 to release a statement detailing their progress. Ukraine's President Vladimir 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.320 Zelenski says strong measures will be needed to keep Russia 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:49.240 on the path of peace. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.440 We need a movement towards real peace, towards guaranteed security, 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.960 and we all need this in Ukraine and Europe and America, 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:01.320 everyone in the world who wants peace and international relations. 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.400 Russia is the only entity that is dragging out this 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.360 war and mocking our people and the whole world. And 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:12.120 to pressure Russia towards peace, strong things, strong steps are needed. 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.400 It was Ukraine's President vladimir's Alenski, speaking through an interpreter. 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.640 Zelenski and President Trump still have not signed a pact 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.640 to give the US part ownership of Ukraine's natural resources. 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.039 Well, we turned to the economy now, Nathan, and the 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.679 head of the Atlanta FED, Rafael Bostick tells Bloomberg's Michael 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:31.320 McKee that he sees just one rate cuttage likely this 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:36.119 year rather than cho with tariff's impeding progress on disinflation. 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.200 So I was a too. I moved to one mainly 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.960 because I think we're going to see inflation be very 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.120 bumpy and not moved dramatically and in a clear way 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.239 to the two percent target, because that's being pushed back. 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.480 I think the appropriate path for policy is also going 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:53.200 to have to be pushed back and getting us to 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:53.960 that neutral level. 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:57.760 And Atlanta FED chief Rafael Bosstik now sees price growth 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.560 returning to the Fed's two percent goal one point in 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.640 early twenty twenty seven. Here the full conversation on the 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.479 Bloomberg Talks podcast feed, or watch it on the Bloomberg 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.320 Podcast page on YouTube. 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.680 In company news, Karen Bowing reportedly wants to withdraw its 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:15.280 deal with US prosecutors to plead guilty to misleading regulators 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.240 prior to two deadly seven thirty seven Max crashes. The 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.039 Wall Street Journal is reporting the Planemaker is pursuing the 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:24.159 maneuver in a bid for potential leniency from the Trump administration, 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.479 which is reviewing pending white collar criminal cases on. 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:31.680 The battle for electric vehicle supremacy. Nathan and China's b 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:37.000 whyd's sales last year leapfrogging elon Musk. Tesla BYD's sales 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.159 last year surpassed the one hundred billion dollar mark, beating 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:44.000 Tesla by more than two billion. Still, ARC Investment Management's 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:47.040 Kathy Wood remains bullish on Tesla. She spoke with The 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.880 Bloomberg at the HSBC Global Investment Summit in Hong Kong. 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:56.760 Within that Drogo taxis will account for ninety percent of 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:00.480 the value of the company in five years, and we're 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:04.320 on record on record saying we believe in in five 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.960 years the stock will hit twenty six hundred dollars. 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.960 If Tesla hits Kathy Wood stock price, that would be 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:17.320 about ten times more than its current price. And it's 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:18.560 time now for a look at some of the other 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.880 stories making news in New York and around the world, 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.479 and for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael, 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:24.240 good Morning. 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:27.200 Good morning, Karen. The Trump administration is challenging the court 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.159 order by a federal judge that aimed to halt the 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:34.719 deportation of Venezuelan migrants to El Salvador. Yesterday, a DC 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:39.120 Circuit Court of Appeals heard their case. Judge James Boseberg's 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:43.080 order was not followed by Trump administration officials, and hundreds 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:46.120 of migrants are at a prison in El Salvador. The 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:49.800 Trump administration claimed it was justified to porting the migrants 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:53.240 because of gang affiliations. During the hearing, one of the 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:57.039 judges on the three judge panel, Patricia Millet Grill DOJ 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:00.360 Deputy Assistant Attorney General, drew insane. 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.119 People weren't given notice, they weren't told where they were going. 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.359 They were given Those people on those plans on that 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:11.720 Saturday had no opportunity to file habeas or any type 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:15.080 of action to challenge the removal under the AEA. And 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.400 like you've agreed that two of those airplanes people were 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.280 removed under the AEA. 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.239 Judge Millard went on to say Nazi's got better treatment 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.840 under the Alien Enemies Act. The United Nations says it 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:30.240 will lessen its presence in the Gaza strip. The move 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.040 following an Israeli tank strike that hit one of its 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:36.920 compounds last week, killing one stafford from Bulgaria and wounding 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:41.880 five other employees. United Nations spokesperson Stefan du Jark. 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:46.120 The Secretary General has taken the difficult decision to reduce 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:50.480 the United Nations footprint in Gaza, even as humanitarian needs 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:55.200 sore and our concerned over the protection of civilians intensifies. 0:07:56.240 --> 0:08:00.200 Meanwhile, Al Jazeera says an Israeli airstrike killed on its 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:05.120 journalist in Gaza. Monday today marks Equal Payday. It symbolizes 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:07.800 how far into the year a woman must work to 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.080 earn as much as a man earned in the previous year. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:14.080 On average, the wage gap is even greater for women 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:19.000 of color and disabled women. The gender justice nonprofit Equal 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:23.440 Rights Advocates says that it's widened last year, and it 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.400 warns that it could get even worse as Trump administration 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:31.400 officials try to strip away protections from workplace discrimination. National 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.040 campaign director Deborah of Agents, we. 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:38.240 Are pushing back on the administration's gutting of civil rights 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:44.240 enforcement agencies, the very agencies that protect us from implant Discrimination. 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:48.520 National Campaign Director Deborah Veagan says women earn about seventy 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.080 five cents on the dollar when compared to all men. 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.120 Global news twenty four hours a day and whenever you 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.720 want it with Bloomberg News Now Michael Barr, and this 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:57.559 is Bloomberg. 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:57.920 Karen. 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:05.000 All right, Michael Barr, thank you time now for the 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.040 Bloomberg Sports Update, brought to you by Tri State Outie. 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.040 Here's John stash Hour, John, good. 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.240 Morning, Good morning Caring. It's a race to the finish 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.800 of the NHL regular season for the last playoff spot 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:16.880 in the East. As it now it belongs to Montreal, 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:20.880 with the Rangers and Islanders right behind. Canadians at seventy 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:22.880 five points have a game tonight in Saint Louis. The 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:26.720 Rangers at seventy four. They begin a three game California 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:29.320 trip tonight in La. The Islanders are at seventy four. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.319 They hosted Columbus at leeds of two nothing to three 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.599 to two, lost four to three in a shootout. The 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:36.959 Devil's also at home, also lost four to three in 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.439 a shootout to Vancouver. The Nets at Berkleys lost to 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:42.120 Dallas one twenty to one oh one. The MAVs are 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.120 at the Garden tonight to face the Knicks, who are 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.240 hoping to get Jalen Brunson back soon for the sprained ankle, 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.880 and the Celtics win at Sacramento, Jason Tatum sprained his 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.040 ankle the NCAA Women's turning the star player for top 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:58.360 seed at usc Juju Watkins tore her acl She averages 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.080 twenty five points a game. The Yukon Star page. Becker's 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.280 t had a career I thirty four points in the 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:05.160 huskies easy win. The Mets after a game with the 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.680 Yankees in Fort Saint Lucy, now off to Houston for 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:12.120 Opening Day Thursday. One Sodo's got a fifteen year Mets contract, 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:13.840 Excited to start his first season. 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:16.600 See, we have a really tied the group. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:17.760 We have a lot of guys. 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:19.520 We have a lot of hotfielders, we have a lot 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:20.160 of anfielders. 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:21.640 So I think we are. 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.559 Really loaded as a team. 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.040 Can't waiting to see these guys that is going out there. 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.560 Definitely, we have to go through some fat cities and 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.199 the spring training and so dealing with some injuries and 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:33.880 stuff like that, but I think we're going to be fine. 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.560 The Yankees finished the Spring Today in Miami, then come 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:40.600 home for Thursday's opener with Milwaukee John Stashaward. Bloomberg Sports 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:41.480 carry neither. 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:47.760 Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.840 and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.959 Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.560 Good morning. I'm Nathan Hager, and the White House appears 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.360 to be in damage control after Atlantic Magazine Editor in 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.839 chief jeff Free Goldberg posted a lengthy story saying he 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.440 was included in a high level text chain about plans 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.400 to attack the Houthis in Yemen. While the Whitehouse says 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:13.079 the messages in Goldberg's story of pure authentic, Defense Secretary 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.840 Pete Hegseth says, quote, nobody was texting war plans. 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.840 This is the guy the pedals in garbage. What he does. 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:24.520 I would love to comment on the hoothy campaign, and 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.720 that was Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth commenting in Hawaii after 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.280 this story broke in Washington, and we're joined now by 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:34.199 Bloomberg New Senior editor Bill Ferries. Bill from what Jeffrey 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.000 Goldberg is reporting in this lengthy story on the Atlantic 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.800 website it is difficult to say if we have seen 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:41.160 a breach like this before. 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.760 Good morning, Hey, good morning, Nathan. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:44.160 Yeah. 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:49.040 Really just jaw dropping story there from Jeffrey Goldberg, just 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:53.000 you know, giving insights into how this signal group was 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:56.880 created and what they were discussing, not realizing that there 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:01.120 was a journalist invited into the group with them, and 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.120 Goldberg talks about how he wasn't sure if this was 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:08.640 you know, a hoax and attempt at fishing temp against 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:12.560 him or something else until he's sitting in the parking 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:16.360 lot after hearing that strikes are about to be unleashed 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:19.280 on Yemen and he's waiting and waiting, and then goes 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.880 on to Twitter to see the first reports confirming that 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:26.880 basically everything he'd been seeing unspool on his signal app 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:32.680 was true. So really shocking breach of security norms and 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:36.240 also a huge embarrassment for an administration that has really 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.640 kind of campaigned and tried to well. I was taken 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.280 pride in what it says is it's you know, strong, 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:46.400 strong position against security breaches. 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.360 I mean yeah, I mean it goes into the idea 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.800 that the Pentagon has said it was going to go 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:55.199 after leakers the last time there was I mean, there 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:58.600 wasn't an incident like this. But when details about Elon 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.760 Musk going to the Pentagon a meeting came out, Defense 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.800 Secretary heg Seth came out and said that they were 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:06.880 going to really go after the leakers. I mean, what 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:08.559 could that mean for this message? 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.680 Well, it's gonna you know, I think we're still going 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.800 to see the repercussions playing out, you know again, Yeah, 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:18.439 this administration. You know, this is a president who faced 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:23.040 charges of mishandling classified material at mar A Lago, who 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:27.320 ran against Hillary Clinton years ago partly on criticism of 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:31.880 her decision to use a private server. So it's been 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.480 a part of their DNA to say that they're strong 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:39.840 on classification and protecting national security. And to see this 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:43.360 happen with not just senior aids but really the most 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.880 senior aides and Marco Rubio is on their Defense Secretary 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:50.520 Pete heg Seth, Toulci Gabbard, the d and I it's 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.040 just really stunning, and I think it raises a lot 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:57.040 of big questions about has this happened before with other 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:00.839 people who were inadvertently invited into chat group? Why are 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:06.920 they discussing such sensitive information in a chat app like Signal. 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:10.240 I don't think it's any secret that Washington officials like 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.920 to use messaging apps, but you typically do it for 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:18.120 scheduling meetings and other kind of not top secret issues. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.520 To go into battle plans is something really we haven't 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:22.040 seen before. 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:26.080 In the early moments here, Bill, we've seen sort of 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:30.880 circling the wagons around National Security Advisor Mike Waltz, who 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:34.320 Goldberg says invited him into this chat. But can we 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.680 see heads roll over this, or at least can we 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:38.080 see hearings over this? 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.360 I think for sure we're going to see hearings. I mean, 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.040 just by a remarkable stroke of timing. You know, you 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:49.960 have the heads of the intelligence agencies, including D and 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:53.200 I Gabbert expected up on the Hill twice this week 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:56.920 to talk about worldwide threats. But you're right, I think 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.120 there's gonna be a lot of questions about Mike Waltz. 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.960 I think the indications we're getting from the White House 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:03.920 is that they're going to see how this plays out. 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:08.360 He's already lasted longer than Donald Trump's first national security 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:12.280 advisor in his first term, Michael Flynn lasted but This 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.920 is a huge breach by the person who's seen as 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:19.920 supposed to be really the arbiter of the national security 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:21.800 agencies for the White House. 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.440 Just thirty seconds left. Bill, What could this mean for 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.600 information sharing among allies? 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:28.680 Yeah, I think it's going to raise a lot of 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:32.480 questions among other countries about what they can share and 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.400 with the US whether they can trust it. But the 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.920 reality is other countries, even a European allies, they rely 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:43.320 a lot more on US intelligence than the US relies 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.040 on them. So it will probably still be in their 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:47.920 benefit to share info, but I think it's going to 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.240 raise some questions about how much they share. 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.960 This is Bloomberg Daybreak, your morning podcast on the stories 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.120 making news from Wall Street to Washington and beyond. 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.680 Look for us on your podcast feed by six am 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:03.160 East each morning, on Apple, Spotify, or anywhere else you listen. 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.240 You can also listen live each morning starting at five 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.880 am Wall Street time on Bloomberg eleven three to zero 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.880 in New York, Bloomberg in ninety nine to one in Washington, 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.880 Bloomberg ninety two nine in Boston, and nationwide on serious 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:17.800 XM Channel one twenty one. 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.800 Plus listen coast to coast on the Bloomberg Business App 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.640 now with Apple CarPlay and Android Atto interfaces. 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.880 And don't forget to subscribe to Bloomberg News Now. 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