Life Is Paradise with Noah and Abigail

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, happy our listeners. It's good to have you again this week. And you know what's even better, I got my incredible co host Michelle back with me once again. It's great to be back for some girl chat with you. Becca. I'm so excited to finally get started the Midwest girls. We're gonna take on this thing. Oh hell yeah. Well and speaking of it taking on by some Midwest girls, Michelle, I was lucky enough to see you this past week. You made a little surprise appearance certain Bachelor Live on stage, and for everyone listening, I just have to say, the crowd went wild. They literally lost their minds when Michelle came out on stage, and it was so fun to see. It was a confidence booster. I don't know, I feel like Minnesotans are just so like you have that Minnesotan pride, right, but stepping out there and when they all were screaming, there were some girls in the front rock crying tears. Oh you got a standing ovation, did I really? I was still getting used to like the life like shining in. I was like, Wow, this is okay, this is different. But it was a lot of fun. It was so much fun, and it was so fun to just be with you and like see you in your element right, Like I think most of the time that I've spent with you has been in California, and there's been so much going on, like with your finale and with the Happy Hour photo shoot, that it was fun to finally have us both back in our home state together to interact with the fans. It was such a fun time. Um. You know, if you're ever in any of the cities for another show, please come out because I would love to have you anytime. You know, Nate and I may try to stop five one of the next shows, so oh my gosh. And if Nate comes out to the girls, like the ladies always go crazy for the guys that come out on the stage, but it's like on a whole other level. Um, it's going to be such a fun episode today. We have some incredible guests coming on that y'all know and love. You saw them in Paradise, say they broke up for a hot but now they are in love, they're living together. We very shortly we'll be bringing on both Abigail and Noah. But before that, Michelle, catch us up because you and Nate recently took a trip to Mexico and it looked incredible, But how was that? It was just so much fun to be able to spend time with each other. And I mean before this trip took place, there was this moment that Nate and I were talking and we're like, when is the last time we actually spent time alone, like with us too, And it's just from the finale we introduced are like each other, two friends and you know other family, and then you know, we're going back and forth to seeing each other. So like every time I was in Austin, I was meeting more people, every time he was in Minnesota, he was meeting my friends and all these different things. And we got like a few months down the road and realized we have not spent like one minute with just us together. So it was super nice to just be in the warm weather, to be able to you know, how many peanut coladas we drank, to walk the beach, all these different things. It was just it was it was the time that we needed to kind of get a little pep in our step in and feel connected. So yeah, it was it was awesome. We're already looking at planning another trip and you know, really wanting to make sure we prioritize that. So, I mean it looked beautiful. I was living vicariously through your Instagram stories and I want to know, so that's where you got engaged. When you after you got engaged, were you both able to stay there for a few days and just chill after the show or did you have to go back to Minnesota? And did he have to go home right after that? So we had a solid like thirty eight hours or something like that, So we we spent another day together, but it was really really quick because I flew back and I went back to teaching, and so it was a quick transition. But it was just you know when you like reminisce and like walk down memory lane, even while we were doing a tour. While we were there, it's just like all these different memories and moments that we had that we kind of got to relive and it was it was incredibly special. So so yeah, I think that might be our of like once a time, like you know, our little anniversary spot once a year. So I love that well, And it's probably so much more fun now that you can make your own memories and like truly making your own and you're on your own schedule, doing whatever you want. So I'm so glad you were able to get away and spend that time. When will you be seeing him next? He's actually driving to Minnesota, so he'll be driving to Minnesota, him and Percy will next week and so he'll stay here for quite some time and get a little Minnesota thing. Okay, so how are you holding up? So I got to see you while you were on stage live. It is so cool to see you dear thing Thomas behind the scenes. He is just like be perfect, as he said, the perfect stage boyfriend. Is he traveling to all these different locations with you, so not all of them. He is bouncing back and fourth. So of course he still has to go home. He's still working full time in San Diego with the dogs, so he'll try to come out at least every other week. This time was perfect because he was able to come to Minnesota, be with my family, spend some time with friends, and then he actually ended up extending his trip because because the people at the show, like my entire team and the crew love him. He's so helpful backstage. He literally will do anything we ask him too, so like he was there for rehearsals. He was our stand in Bachelorette when we were practicing the first week with Andrew. He has been like moving props backstage, moving like the big boxes sometimes, like whatever we all need, he is there, and he is just I feel like he's actually part of the show with us. He's like part of the team because everyone loves him. He's like a comedic relief. And so I selfishly, I'm like, can you just stay the entire time and just you know, live on the tour of us with me? But you know, he has his own obligations, so he'll be back and forth. He'll come out for some of the shows on the East Coast. Then we have a break when we hit the South in New Orleans, so he'll be at and then luckily, I mean we ended mostly in California and on the West Coast, so he'll be there for most of those shows with the dogs. So yeah, it's it's always fun, like when he makes a little guest appearance coming out on stage. But I have to tell you because this is I was talking to Nate about this on the phone because it is the cutest thing. And I've been able to spend more time with like you and Thomas over the bath past few weeks, but literally showed up to the live whatever to the live show, had my bag like I had, you know, my makeup like a sweatcher like those things in it, and I left it in your dressing room. And then afterwards I had been speaking about, you know, how we're gonna go grab food or this, and that I was really hungry. I hadn't at dinner whatever it was, and so I needed my bags still and Thomas brought it back to me and he walks in the door and he goes, I have your bag of like your makeup and everything. I also added some snacks, so you have a water, you have a banana. He literally like packed me snacks to go home with. And I'm like, Thomas is going to be such a good dad. And I was talking to j Nate about this just like he. I didn't ask him to. He just had heard that I was hungry and he packed me snacks. He packed me a little lunch. So I'm like, he's a good one. He's a good one. He's a keeper. He oh, he's going to be such an incredible father. And like that's one thing, Like that's one of the many reasons why I love him so much. He's so thoughtful for everyone else. That's why I'm like, how hell was he a villain on the season, because he truly, like does not have a bad bone in his body, like he always takes care of everyone. And actually, let's throw it back to the photo shoot we had for Happy Hour a couple of weeks ago, because when Michelle was getting her photo her photos taken, Thomas was actually facetiming Nate, like showy Nate the photos of Michelle, how she was working a like working all the angles, how great she looked. And Nate was there and he was at the hotel working he unfortunately couldn't be there with us that morning, but Thomas wanted Nate to still feel included, like he was part of it with you. And so, yeah, he's great. And I've only spent a little bit of time with Nate, but I feel like Nate is incredible too, just so kind too. So I can't wait for when we're all together and have like a long time to spending it to know one another, because it's gonna be so good. How the hell did we get such great guys, Michelle, I don't know it must be the Minnesotan in US. It just attracts them, the Minnesota nice Yeah, we're so lucky. Well, Nate is a lucky guy too for you. But no, it was so good seeing you. I can't wait to see you again. But now we have your second official podcast interview to get into. I think it's just time we bring on another wonderful couple. Abigail and Noah will just be joining us shortly, and I can't wait to catch up with them because it's been a while and we haven't seen them since Paradise, so we have to get to know them a bit more. What has been going on in their lives. So Michelle, Happy Hour without further ado, let's hear from Abigail and Noah right now. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. Abbey and Noah. We have missed you so much and so good to finally have you both on here together. How have you been awesome? Abby have you been? I've been good. You'll look good for all of our listeners who can't see. I mean. Abigail always like studying, of course, and Noah's here and his nurse scrub get up because I'm assuming you have to go to work. Right after this, right, No, I just got off. You just got off. Damn, you've been busy putting you on the clock yet let you sleep right now. So to start this off, give us a little filler of what has been happening in your life. I mean, I obviously know you're in California now, but just fill us in on where you're at, any plans, all of the fun stuff. Okay, first off, Michelle, nice to meet you. Did you see? Yeah, it was a pleasure. So let's see, we're finally not long distance. Abby and I were doing long distance, flying to see each other every week every other week pretty much after the show, so that's good. Um, we're in Oklahoma for a while and just kind of traveling around having fun. I started nursing again because I'm did nursing before the show and then after, you know, I got back into it, so I've been doing that. I'm doing a contract out in California, so did travel nursing. So in California, living in Huntington Beach. Abbey's out here now and you can filling anything else. Well, I think that's pretty much it. Yeah, Huntington right now. No, it's working a lot, so we're kind of on opposite schedules because he works night shifts, so when he has like four ships cinema, we don't really get to see each other. So how do we go? How is it with like the adjustment going from New York now to Huntington Beach. I astually really, Like I was joking the other day, I was like, it's just so nice having a car again, Like I went to trade to Joe's and I came home and like the luxury up being able to like just carry my groceries like five feet from the car to the kitchen. That's in New York, I would have to walk a couple of blocks and then walk up like the five story walk ups. So it's just small things like that that makes me happy that I made the move and been like a huge like adjustment where I'm like, oh, like whether I do know kind of thing. So it's been going well seventy yeah, so I can't complain. Yeah, oh I know. Well so I'm sure some of our listeners know. But back in October, you two came to stay with us at Thomas's house in San Diego, and we were trying to convince you at that point to just move to California because the more, the merrier out there for us. So I'm glad that you finally landed on the West coast for a while. And we'll get into like future plans in a bit. But do you think you'd ever stay longer and extend your nursing contract? Noah, I mean, I the nice thing about Abby and eyes both of us can work kind of wherever and whenever, you know, nursing just not really shortage of nurse needs. I love California's where I normally work, so I can definitely see that hopefully not working as much. I got a little ambitious. Let's just say that I got a little ambitious right after I wanted to make sure I still knew how to start I things and work in the ICU and stuff. But now that I remember, I still got it. Probably slowed down a bit, but I'll still m I could definitely still see myself staying out here longer. Mhm oh good, Okay, So no long distance, right, I'm Nay and I are currently in long distance. How did you guys do? Like, what was the hardest part for you both with doing long distance? Because I know there's times where it's like you feel like you're getting the hang of it, and then there's times where like this is really difficult. Yeah, I mean, long distance isn't fun, but I feel like it wasn't. Um, it wasn't the worst thing because I think we always kind of had like an angle, kind of like an end date. We try to have an idea that my lease was ending in Mark, so we always kind of had that to look forward to when we were doing long distance. So it wasn't like, oh, are we gonna be doing this for a year or two years, trying that movement of how long are we going to be doing this for? So, um, it wasn't that fun. I mean, honestly, I missed you, like we're doing long distance. Well the first the first is for long distance, you gotta find somebody that is worth it. So you and Nate, you're like, this person's worth it sucks, especially somebody like me. I like to always do like random dates or just I like to be with the person. I don't really care to talk on the phone all day every day, you know, so that's a little different for me. But yeah, first was finding somebody that's worth it, and then the second we both put quite a bit of effort and doubling down on communication. You know, like sometimes I'm not on my phone for half the day, so I'm like, Okay, I can't do that. I gotta, like, you know, take the time out to randomly call each other or you know, what are you doing later, Let's let's talk, or you know. We also flew a lot. We did a lot of flights. Um, I wasn't doing nursing time, so I had more freedom. But we every other week pretty much planned to see see each other somewhere. Let me ask you this because obviously you and we'll get into like everything after Paradise, but you rekindled during that weird time between filming had finished, it hadn't started airing yet, or it was in the midst of airing, where you can't be public and people can't know that you're together. So long distance is hard enough. Adding that extra factor that no one can know that you're together, no one can really see you traveling from place to place. What was that like? Did you go and meet like in secret locations? How did you make that work? Um, I'm in Tulsa. It selfish pretty small, It's pretty easy. I made sure there was sworn secrecy. Yeah, there are a couple cover But I love town. The city can do a lot of Like I still have a lot of friends and fly that have land that we can run four wheelers and do fun stuff you know. Um, and then like I'll go pick up food or she'll pick up food, or we're going to like friends houses. Um. Also wasn't bad. But we also went out to Oregon. Yeah it was. It was like a big operation. But his car has like tintip windows, so like I would be sitting in the car, like outside busy restaurant. He would like running and I would like see some places like recognize him, and little did they know, I was literally in the car by outside. Yeah, I got before she came. Well, at first I used my little brother's car because we both have four runners. He is super black tent so they couldn't see us. Then next time she came, I got my car like blacked out tent, so now we can see. And I was like, if I get a ticket, I get a ticket. Whatever. Um, yeah, a whole So we never got a call. We never got well, we got spotted, don't we get right before the finale, But for the most part we didn't get called. Yeah, we had a little seat, a few secret missions, a few like um we did. There were people that messaged me a couple times after or after that we're like, hey we saw you. Um we didn't want to say anything, and I basically said, like, I'll baby sit your kids if you don't like were cool. Yeah, that was an added layer. But still, like she said earlier, like our end goal. I was like, Okay, I like where this is going. I feel like everyone is just so happy to see that you two were back together and that you two rekindled that. I know I was excited. Yeah, but no, it sounds like you you went through like to every point to keep it secretive, which honestly that could be kind of fun too. It was fun. We kind of saying, is like some of the stories really funny and like funny to look back on, um, because obviously I'm not gonna do that ever again in my life, like have to hide, but it was a fun little like yeah, we definitely had to get a career, which is did you ever get to the point where you put on disguises? We never got to. I wanted to, I wanted I'll change my fatal hair. Never got to that point. Oh my goodness, I feel like one thing that I wanted to do so bad with me I disguising wig, but you can't disguise somebody's height. And you know, I want to go, yeah, yeah, very true. And Michelle, I want to ask you this too. I'm going to ask Abigail and Noah. But because we had that time, we've all lived for it where we couldn't be in public for the first couple of months. We really had to just sit in our homes and get to know one another. Do you ultimately feel like that made you all a stronger couple coming out of it. Yes, honestly really did, just because you know, when you're on the show, like you do get to know somebody very quickly. But I felt like in the time that day and I were off the show and the show was actually airing on TV, like that nk of time, I feel like I got to know that man like times ten compared to what I knew about him on the show, just because I mean, it is just you two. You know, when you're going a happy couple of weekends or when you're talking, you're allowed to like text and phone call and FaceTime and so it's like you have that quality time where you still don't have all these outside distractions because the world can't know, and you get to know each other. So yeah, we got We definitely got to know each other a ton ton What do you think? Yeah? Yes, But did you guys ever do like um uh we did like movie nights. We were like, okay, like, let's watch a TV show tonight, even when we're not together when we were long distance and we would watch a movie and a lot and like I probably if I watched two episodes without her, of course, how you Yeah, it had to watch it together. Right off the show though, when I went to Oregon, Um, we went to one of her grandparents cabins and it was like in the mountains, super secluded, and I pretty much had the idea in my head that Okay, we're going to spend a lot of time with each other. We're not going to really have cell phone service. Could be awkward after the show, no idea, but like this is gonna make it break it for me, Like that's what I was thinking. I don't know what I'm like, it's either gonna work or not work after this week, because you know, this is I think what if we hate each other or maybe she's really cool when the cameras are off. I don't know, you know, so that cool cool? No, but it did. It was like similar to the show where there's no distractions UM, which was cool, like the show is UM had. The biggest scene too, was we had to navigate a lot of first you know, even when the show was there, and I'm just it was really weird to watch it back and have everyone's like opinions of our relationship and trying to navigate that and also just kind of becoming more self aware of like Okay, I handled that really badly and so forth, and so just kind of navigating about those first I think kind of forced us to have a lot of conversations in the first few months of dating that a lot of people usually don't maybe lather. So I think it's definitely accelerated things, even Doctor Well and the show is interesting because yes, it is. There are certain things in place that help you get to know somebody faster, right, and you have a full team. They're asking you the right questions, directing you in certain conversations at times. But it's so different when you get off of the show and you do have that uninterrupted alone time with like no one budding in and being like, how are you feeling? Like talk through this scenario where like no one's navigating your thoughts and your questions were, it's just totally you and the other person. And like Noah said, it could be make or break, it could be great, or it could you know, bomb real fast. And so I'm glad that. I mean, and it's been so fun to see you both grow now in your relationship. But even what I love too is you guys have so many fun throwback pictures and videos that you're still posting of, like that time when you truly were just getting to know one another, scene how this relationship could work that I think all of your followers love to see. But I want to know, let's take it back to Paradise really quick, and like you know, we were all there besides Michelle, we were all there together, so we knew how things ended right at that prom night when you left and you know, wing your separate ways for a little bit, how long after that did you wait to start talking to get and sort of rekindle your relationship. Becca wants to tea Noah, I'm pretty sure I had texted her a neutral, platonic texts, hope you well on the way to the airport. Oh my good You did not just send up I hope your well message. It was a check. It was like, yeah, I'm sorry how that turned out. It I had my own reasons. It still probably came off as a dick move, but obviously I still care for you. It was like, yeah, I really find what he was trying to achieve. The text. It really was neutral. It wasn't like I want to get bought together with you, But I also wasn't like goodbye forever. Yeah, well, I feel like Noe and I were the same. I sent the text to Thomas in the airport, probably a little bit more wordy, but I was like, I still want to leave the door open, but I don't want to make him feel uncomfortable or like disrespected for how things ended. So I kind of just left the ball in his core. But but I knew it wasn't over. I mean, you saw on the show. It wasn't like an easy once I came to that decision, here's what I'm gonna do. It wasn't an easy thing for me. Um and obviously still cared for and I'm not that mean of a guy. So it was kind of like all those things into one. But I was like, I can't like hit on her. That's really messed up. I mean to break up with her. Then eight hours later hit on her. But I'm also not like saying that was a great piece out, so it was kind of like a neutral Then yeah, she said something. Yeah. The first like fifteen texts were super sassy like whatever, and I'm like, okause they should be whatever. We're gonna get this out, um. And we talked and I was in Utah, not working, like just golfing, writing my motorcycle chilling. I was with Chris actually, who just got destroyed. Poor guys, and we're both you know, going through heartbreak together, and U you know, Abigail is still in my mind. So we talked and then decided all right, no more, this isn't good for us. And I faced under like I said, I need time to think or whatever I said. And then I faced under like two days later, so I didn't last that long. Um. And then she was done being sassy. She sweetened up a little bit. I was like, okay, all right, all right, I got here. Abigail did you have any inkling after that breakup in those next couple of days that he was still yearning for you, that he'd reach out, that there was still something there. Did you think the door was closed? Um? So when he sent me that text, yes, I thought the door was still closed, just because there was a very neutral, kind of apologetic text where I kind of just seemed like a closure yah. Um. But then I think I was like sassy for a few texts and then we hopped on a phone call and just I think we talked for a couple of hours that night, and I was like it was almost too friendly where I felt like the door had to still open. It open at that point because we were still kind of flirting, and um, I kind of just was like it was back to normal. So at the that phone call, I think that was kind of like, I think the door is still open. But it was a lot that we went through. I think you know, when you come back from filming, it's a huge adjustment. I mean, I loved Bird I think less than a month, and like what happened in that time span. I was like I literally met someone, fell in love, got broken up with, and now I'm back home. I was just as back to life, trying to tell my friends, like what happened. They were just like we all that happened in like three weeks and it's just a huge adjustment. But no, I think I really loved Neodle. At what point did you guys decide like, was it abego that you're like, Okay, let's try this again, or know where you like, let's try this again, or was it just like a feeling that you knew do you have a conversation a specific conversation about it. I think we were like when we were still in that separate location, I think we were like, well, um let's get in, like let's meet up in person and like talk about it and like really see you know, is the connection still there? Or was it because of the show, because, like Becca says, sometimes you know on the show they're kind of forced out those conversations, and so I think we were trying to figure out, Okay, was our connection there because of the show. Did we kind of bond just because we had that in common? How much more do we actually have in common? Um, let's actually meet up in person? And so he flew out to Oregon, and I mean it was just it wasn't awkward at all. I mean it felt like I don't know, no, well, I knew that we would like from the start. We got along and it was like easy and goofy and fun, like I knew that wouldn't be a problem. I was actually probably hate men be weird, but I might cook dinner or something. Maybe let's snoozed it out and then we'll get to talk. So I don't know if that actually happened, but um, I was thinking, like if we can move past all this and it's not like something that like you broke up with me, will you made me do this? Like it's back and forth, and we can move on from what happened and see if there's still a connection and still dive deeper and like there's no reason for me personally. I don't know if she was thinking, but there's no reason for me to not, you know, keep going with what this is because there's a lot of good potential there. Right then, once those things were done, I was like, oh, we're like this is this is good. This is easy fun and moving around pace. Yeah, And I will say because I've you know, done the show a few times and I've done it twice leaving it engaged. I did it once being like I'm not gonna leave with anybody. Obviously we saw me break up with Thomas on Paradise. But I will say there is something about the breakup, but like the rekindling story and forming a relationship without the pressure of the show to really see are we a fit for one of another, away from the cameras, away from the producers, away from you know, the glitz and the glam of the show. And I will say I personally, just speaking from experience, thinks I think it makes relationship stronger. I mean, and we've seen it with you, We've now seen it with Clayton and Susie. We've seen it in the past with like Astrid and Kevin. They broke up in Paradise and got together and now they're getting married and they have a baby. So it's like, I think everyone you know, moves at their own pace. They have to take the show as they will and whether they want to get engaged or not. But I think you did what was best for both of you because and I want Abigail to speak on this, because I know you were really maybe I want to say more so in your head about all of the cameras. You know, you felt like very like you had no privacy, You felt very confined with all of the cameras constantly in you. It was a very tough environment for you to fully open up to. Noah, what was that like? Oh my god, it was the worst. I think just a thing for me was well, the biggest thing was I always had the back of my mind that my family was watching the shell, and so it's hard to fully open up to somebody about, you know, kind of private things when I know my mom, my dad, my grandparents are watching it. It's just not the best feeling. And so when the cameras came around, because I felt like all my parents are coming around sort of thing. And then Pat the other thing too was for me, I really do move at my own page. It takes a lot for me to kind of gather my thoughts and say, Okay, this is what I want to say to him, build up that curs and I'm ready. I'm like, okay, I built up all this curse. I'm ready to like talk him how I'm feeling. And then I would go up to him, and then something else would be happening on the beach, so they say, Okay, you can't have this conversation right now, you need to wait, and I'll get still frustrate because I'm just like, well, I want to talk to him now, like I couldn't come. I don't know, a different feeling later so forth. I I just could never get my timing. I Yeah, it was. It was not fun. It was so and I will say that last day, like prom the I just remember watching the cameras run back and forth after you, and I was like, this girl has no alone time like everyone. She's going in the bathroom crying like she's not alone. And it was so much I'm sure to take in, especially going through the break up almost the worst because he got pulled for a while and like I knew something was going not cantine though you can just kind of talk like those bets, like the mood changes a lot of camera and don like you just don't know what's going on. And they started following me like to the bathroom, to the bar stap. I was like, oh God, like something happening. I don't know what. And yeah, I just prom that was like a long like four hours before like that. Meanwhile, it's really just me and Thomas doing dirty dancing on the day. Oh, that was such a long night for all of our listeners. Prom. I mean we probably got there one at like ten pm and its I don't think we made it back to like four am the next Day's not real. It was such a yeah. And then I was pissed at No. I was like he had to break up with her right now, like let us go home and sleep. Come on, man. Once I was like, this is what I'm doing. That's kind of how I am. I'm like all in, all out. I'm like I'm not gonna sit there and I'm like, if I'm making decision on something, this is what I'm doing. And that's not just with relationships, that's that's general. So I was like, I'm either I don't want to stream this out. It doesn't help anybody. I don't want to have this conversation and go home my own bed and drink water. That's man. I feel like everybody has like when when when when someone says the word PROM, like people either have wonderful like reaction or like I feel like the majority of people are like it sucks, Like I didn't go, I didn't get asked something, I got woken up with. It was dramatic, like if I don't know about job, because I remember they were asking me like having to call at the interview before we last we were like, so, like what's your experience prom? Like do you like it? Do you not? And I was like, well, actually, my only prom experience was I got I got stuck in the elevator for like three hours and I messed basically the whole prom. And so I'm going on about that so much better. I'm going I'm calling it fun. It's gonna be so much fun. Everybody. Oh no oh, no, so good. Noah. You know, I knew something was off that day because and I think I actually talked about this on the podcast a while ago. But before we all like went into the room where there was a stage in the music and everything, you know how, they like kept us in the holding room and one of the producers was like, Okay, does anyone want to listen to music on her cell phone? And she would play just like her cell phone for everyone to sing and dance. We started playing a song by Robin and Noah, you are usually so energetic, so wild, the life of the party, and you just kind of sat through the corner, and I was like not having it. And I remember seeing you being like, oh shit, something's about to happen tonight. This isn't not good. That's why I told Thomas. I was like, let's just go make out outside. I don't want to deal with any of this other stuff right now. It was funny that you bring up that making out at like key points. He shut after the final bro Okay, we did not know the camera was at that angle. Usually it's like straight on to you too, and I and you want what I said, because it was when you were talking to you were ting you were talking about Brandon, about the breakup and I and I told Thomas I was like, never do this to me. And then we started kissing and then yeah, I'm so sorry. No, I no, honestly, really in the moment, I just I just didn't want to let this moment fly to know that like it is new and dullness say, when things get awkward, I just like to make up. Some people like public places, some people like you know, whatever yours is like in conflict, Yeah, yeah, I don't want to talk. I just want to do something else to give my mind off of it. But um, Okay, So overall, you know, you did what you did in the moment for paradise. Do either one of you have any regrets at all for your time on the beach or anything that you would have done differently. I feel like if I had known we're gonna get back together, I would have at least got a ring out of the deal and rock. But that's about it. Hey, you know Neil Lene is still around. It's never too late. Noah, Yeah, I was gonna say no. I mean, obviously, hindsight is twenty twenty for everything. It's the same with when I was like a little gremlin on the Bachelorette ever looked regretted, regretted. I was like, I mean, I don't regret anything I did there in the moment with what I was feeling, with what was going on. But I could have definitely been smoother around the edges for multiple instances. So but I wouldn't see, you know, paradise or anything else regret. I'm just like, I probably could have handled that a little better. Looking back, Yeah, we all could have. Yeah. I mean, I think watching it back, it's you know, watching it back after we got back together, I think I did kind of catch myself feeling like, oh, I wish I could would have just like embraced, I had the process more and really just been more vulnerable with him from the get go. But I also think too, in like hindsight, it's like part of our love story. Like I think it's as weird and the ups and downs we had with it. I think ultimately it got to where we are today. So which is anything of that? I love it? Well. It seems like you guys are stronger now than ever. I do want to know, um. I mean we touched on you both are living together now in California and your stint Noah is up, you know, in a few weeks. But after that, do you plan to still live together or are you gonna go back to Oklahoma, Abigailbil you go back to Oregon? Or what does the future look like for you too? I think it's not as far as many terms. We are in a predicament where we have a lot of options, which is not a bad place to be. So I'm not mad about that, um, But nothing's solidified obviously, regardless. I'm gonna We're gonna try to be in the same location or as close to each other as we can, so working around that, but there's still a few different moving pieces. Okay, I have one more question about you guys living together, because this is one thing that you know Nate and I may be approaching, but Abigail and now, what is one thing that you've learned about each other? Like, what's the biggest thing that you've learned about each other since moving it? Because there's something weird, like does no one do something really odd or like someone like really weird? Notice it's like a gosh unking on your parking see. Okay, so I'll say two things no they're not saying. One is we definitely have Her difference is um. Like she said, she likes to get her what she wants to say in a bullet pold point format probably an Excel spreadsheet, and how she wants to say it, um, time frame, everything like that, get the courage say it. I'm like, no, let's just talk, Let's just do it right now. I'll say it right now, let's just talk about it whatever. I'm like, let's do it. Boom, We're done. Where she likes more concise, you know, a way of going about it. I'm like, even if I don't know exactly what I want to say. I know we want to say something, so let's just talk right. Um. So we definitely have our differences with that, and it's still completely makes no sense to me, and I hope any guy's listening to this that girls apparently put hair on the shower doesn't make sense. You don't go the drains put it on. I don't hear you. Guys justify the fact that hair sticks up there for also getting all over the bathroom. Yeah, I know your hair. I've never even seen like that, So I want to know that that all girls do all counter and say. I'd always stand why guys she their beards or their mustaches over the sink and they leave it in sink. Yes, I can answer this for men. It's first off, I've tried about a shaver that has a vacuum in it. It works pretty well, but something to invest in, but um, let's wipe up. Uh. The other thing is you start to shave and then next thing you know, there's a hundred pieces of hair and you're like, I'll get eighty the other twenty. I'm not going on a scavenger hunt. I'm like, that's good plus great thing for hair being on my side of the sink is it's my side of the sink, so that's fantastic for your side of the sink. That's clean. Great, guys, think abigil I have to. I'm on Abigail's side. I like, Thomas will get it. But then there's sprinkles of hair. Thomas, there's sprinkles of hair all around the side of the thing. I'm like, why didn't you just brush that shit in down? We try? Okay, such a thing. Wait, I need to ask. Okay, when we were all together in San Diego, Noah, you had a big issue with Abigail's like her makeup, blatter, her sponge. Oh, has she's been getting new ones? The blender beauty blender absolutely was pretty okay. I need to I don't know if you guys do this, fill me in because I'm very right. I work in the ice you trauma surgical. I see nasty stuff all the time, not bothered by bears. I smelled something funky. I was, no, it was, and I'm like, Okay, there's no black mole in the mouse, Like, what's going on? I'm like, maybe Thomas denizations and there's some sort of something that went wrong. I don't know. So I'm like the dead most in the wall the corner of the room. So I walk over there and find this beauty blender that I've seen her use a million times death this thing. I'm like, there's no way. Every time that's because she got used to it. She burned all the paces in her nose. It was disgusting and I like lost it. So I'm like, there's no way you put this on your face, girl, like good complexion. You guys have all your your one hundred different creams and everything to look gorgeous, but then you're blotting it on with rotten, rotten pizza. That's when my face smelt like. And he was like, I put it together because that was like the beauty. I just thought that was her scent for like a week. I'm like, like, her own, you know, natural sent me all her own, and I just that's just maybe I've been wrong. I don't know. But then I smelled that thing. I'm like, no, I feel like I did wash it. I put that thing out forever. Should get sponsored by beauty blender now, just to get them, you know, in the cycle of fresh ones. Oh, I just remember that you asked me You're like, Becka, do you use one? And how often do you like? Clean it? And I don't use one. I was, I was fuddled. I was. I was so good. Okay, I want to I want to ask one more question about California because recently we saw something some beef, I will say, some beef on Instagram between you and a mister Blake Moy's, and it seems like all of all of your bat Nation boys chimed in. Give us the background on that. Canadians. Man, Well, I was asleep because I was going in the ship and I'd gotten off or whatever. So Abby was going to the beach to meet up with a few people, and I'm friends with Blake. So I saw a picture and I actually screenshot it and zoomed down on his hand, and I was gonna send it to him and be like, send me your addressed, like I was gonna go. I got busy and I'm like whatever. Then I see him post it. I'm like, oh, here we go, Yeah, wait for all this time? Yeah only at at like my name, no caption, pretty funny, not gonna lie. But I was like, here we go, here's the people that are gonna die. Yeah, he actually texted me too, and I was like, hey, I just want you to know him joking, and I was like, gonna try to act man, but I was like, okay, well it's so funny though, because all a VAT nation gets so hypedron then we all knew no, it's a joke, right, Like we know how people act and if your friends with somebody, But sometimes the fans take it too far. And I'm sure everyone was like, oh my god, no one, Abigail broke up. She's now seen Blake. Like, what was the reaction in your dms? I would be a pretty wild way ti about that their reaction. I had dms that were like, um, hey, king, let me know where we can take Blake out, or let me know if we can slash his tires likening like that, but nothing. I don't think you know, listen, I'll throw one more jab at Blake. If Abby wanted to downgrade, then that's fine. You know that's her chould. I love Blake. I thought it was fun. Um if that we're going to get him back. At one point, if I know, made a little Instagram post that was like, oh yeah, cute beach picture, but she's putting my hair in a bun and I'm unplugging her her battery here I have fun, but no, I was like, I want to be excluded. Yeah you guys, yeah, I will say nation. You know how crazy the fans get. There's something tempting about it, just sprinkling, a little drama, messing with them, trying to block out. It does creep around on the just stirs upon a little bit. Abigail is in the midst of all of this all the time, the sweetest person. Every time you like wanting to like sprinkle here and that I was like, don't do it. Yeah, um okay, Well, Abigail, speaking of you and fun things on social media. I don't know how you get yourself into these positions all the time. But a while back you did a live Instagram with some of your girlfriends from your season and you were actually crashed by a surprise guest. It showed up that it was supposed to be Serena p right, but it was actually a flasher. It was supposed to be Serena. See to see what happened. But I guess we weren't the first people. That he had done it too. He get it to and that our influenced a few weeks ago, because there must be a way you can change the name or something, so granted, and Chelsea and I were like, Jakie a little bay, so like our judgment wasn't all there. She left this person in and I'm still traumatized it atop yeah, yeah, And I was just I don't know how many people we had on the Life, and like so many people were on I was just like those poor people. But the reaction was so funny from you girls, though I know she actually just message to me. She was like, do you want to do another Life next week? Like I been a while, and I was like, I think I need more time, Like I'm I still haven't recovered. What did you even do? Because I'm not hearing about this, but what do you not Chelsea? Because I think it's only the person that UM hosts a live can control who comes standing, who goes out. And we're like, Chelsea, get him off. I mean you were stuned, but like the first I think I was just like Jawstad, like the first five seconds, so we got a Chelsea game, so I think he was on there for like fifteen twenty seconds. I'll try to find that guy, Blake. I love Blake, so I won't come after him. To that guy, I I'm gonna find why are we good to jump into the game? Always play games here. I'm actually really excited for this because I feel like you guys are gonna have good answers. We might get a little juice on both of you. So okay, So we're gonna give you a prompt about your significant other and you have to finish this sentence right, So no, what we're gonna start with you? Are you ready? Soccer? Once? Get it ready? Because I think she gotta get her bullet points ready, right he said her time? Okay, all right, here we go. What is one word to describe Abigail? Quick? Beautiful, so simple, so simple? I love this so Abby, You're up. What is something quirky that Noah does? Russian mustache? I just saw the musta person, all right. What is the best thing that Abagail cooks? This one's not quick because she just started getting into cooking like hardcore. I'd say the best thing is traded Joe's no holdless relationship. No he does. He's trying a lot of recipes. Best thing I'd say is like this not rocket fire. I'm stumbling. She does like this vegetable medley with Samon. That's bomb oh, like a stir fry. Yeah sounds good. Okay, Abigail. What is something that always makes you think of Noah? Noah? I don't get a rabbit fire space right now? Why is this so that the hairs on the sink the beard hairs on the sink. This is getting really awkward. I don't this is what he needs. We like structure of like time to think out what I'm going to say, because I just I'm like a gear at the headlights. We'll give you some time thing, Okay, all right, Noah, Abigail looks the most beautiful when I think you're getting easier on Oh, I think just fresh out of bad cozy sweats a hoodie. That's a good answer. That's a good a. I love that it's like the song like sweatpants. I hope that you don't take it wrong for all the all the guys out there. If she's pretty in the morning, take note of that. Okay. Oh god, I don't want to ask Thomas when he thinks I was thinking the morning shit. Okay, Abigail. The theme song to Noah's Life is what the theme's life theme song of theme songs. Uh, kids don't lie basically, but I'm like things onto your life. I feel like happy days. It's like coming to my mind. I don't know what. I don't even watch the show, but just like a happy like all I be like trying to do something serious and he's just like happy, go lucky all the time. Yes, that's okay, that happy day all right? Noah. What is the easiest way to make Abigail laugh? Anything? Um, easiest way. We have a lot of weird jokes that like, I don't know if you can't really explain, yeah, like the why there's like a lot of weird ones that if I tried to explain them, you're like, that's not really funny. But inside jokes, yeah jokes. Yeah, okay, we're at you. That's understandable. Very cute. That's cute. I love it, okay, Abigail. What is Noah's best physical feature? Mustache? That I knew I was gonna like forely liked it. No, I've always liked it. Oh, I scratch you when he kisses you, tired condition your oil and that baby, So the mustache. But if we're gonna get checking all your ass. Okay, I don't even know what Kyla rises Noah have. They're only bad shot is what they're like. Sometimes. Yeah, they change a lot. Actually, Okay, okay, okay, Abeil, you are most grateful for Noah because how do I start? Um? I feel like I'm most grateful of how patia he is because I don't know. It takes a lot, I think sometimes to pull stuff out of me conversations and whatnot. He's very patient. Oh, I like it. I like it all right. What is the thing that you look the most forward to with the future with Abigail? Um? I think quite a few rental properties, some land and sailboat the Caribbean, I think, um, But I don't know. I think just being more you know, a little bit more established with you know, career and finances, um, and being able to do more of what we want and travel more. I mean, I actually easy answers everything. That's the easy answer. But yeah, just a little bit a little bit more established. Yeah, and the lights that gets with that. I love that. Okay, before we let you go, no, I'm sure you're very exhausted after working and now talking for an hour with us, So we're gonna just ask you all. Michelle, you're included in this. We are going to get to the rose and the thorn. So basically, throughout the past week, what was your highlight and low light? So I'll start it off just to make it easy. My rose is going to be being on tour for the first week and being able to see the country and just see fans and get Bachelive on stage up and running again. It's been such an absolute blast. My thorn is probably the fact that I think I broke a toe and my feet kill me every night. But that's okay because the show was gone and that's that broken toe. Huh. Yeah, it's weird that I'll take this one night. How we washes my feet every night, is that where the broken toe came in? No, my feet just hurts every broken toe, right, yeah? Always. Oh I hate when my feet are dirty. That's like my thing. I can't have dirty feet, Okay, Michelle, your rose would probably be definitely would be going to Mexico, back where Nate and I got engaged. We got to spend a little time together. It was really cool. It was really weird showing up there at first because it's like you tap back into that show anxiety, you know, walking through where you had like the rose ceremonies and things. But once we got settled in, it was just so much fun. The thorn would be coming back to Minnesota where it is. I'm currently looking at my window right now and is like flurries snowing. It's cold, cold, and it's March, soot hey, hey, got a way to go? All right, Abigail and Noah, what is yours? My rose is, well, we've got a long weekend together, so it's more like looking forward to the long weekend because he has it off. Then might the wine would be you talking about all my nea never saved Abigail again, my rose is gonna be so with whatever my job, I stack my schedule so I'll work just a ton of hours in a row, and then you know, the time off. I have a good amount of time off, so that's gonna be both of them. You know, we got some upcoming fun little day trips kind of thing. Um, and I'm not working. We're time with Abbi. You get to see some people, and then my Thorn's going to be me during like eighty hours coming back and I just look like this, so you'll look great. You'll look great. Well, Abigail and Noah, we will let you go. I'm sure you have a lot of sleeping to catch up on or just time to be with one another, so go enjoy it. Thank you for being I'm bachelor happy Hour. We absolutely love you and glad to be back. Well, well not be as am I a. Thanks for having us. The only other thing is, Michelle, I could definitely touch the teacher. You have a very soothing teacher's voice. Oh hey, I'm a freak. That good. That means that I to Yeah, well I look forward to happen. Yeah, no need to raise your hand, so we don't do hand raising here. But Abigail, it's so nice actually see your face. I know that I'm going to a little bit so I miss you. We'll get together and Noah getting you in Nate and you know, getting the whole crew back together. I would love to do that. All right, you guys, take care, I love you. I'll see you soon. Bye bye bye. All right, Michelle, that was such a fun interview with Abigail and Noah. I love them both. They're such a blast and they're so different, but they balance each other out so well, and so I'm glad that we were able to finally have them on Happy Hour. People have been asking since Paradise to have them on, so you know asking and shall receive people. But Michelle, thank you for being here with me. I can't wait to keep on doing Happy Hour with you. It's going to be a great podcast with you. 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