Zack Marshall & Trey Pierce On Being Recruited By Jim Harbaugh + First NIL Purchase | Inside The Bus

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Inside the Bus. I'm Jack McPherson. Joined here with me is Cooper Comstock and JP Hovey. We also have two special guests for us current Michigan Wolverine football players. Go ahead and introduce yourself, boys.

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Speaker 2: Zach Marshall on the tight end from San Diego. Been on the Michigan team for three years now, freshman year within that a year, so yeah, excited to be here, National champion.

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Speaker 1: How do you before we really get to do it, do you think that was a fraudulent national championship?

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Speaker 3: I was about to say, I was about to say a lot of haters in this building.

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Speaker 2: The craziest part is, like, think about it, we had to go on the road. Depends without Harbaugh. You want to talk about overcoming adversity.

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Speaker 1: But did y'all have Biff Pogi at that time? Or was he?

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Speaker 3: It was it was Sharon.

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Speaker 1: We'll get We'll get to him too, so don't worry. I'm just kidding. Also, before we get too far into this legendary of forty seven jerseys, you guys know we always try and shout out some honorable athletes who rep the number of the episodes correlated with forty seven was a tough one.

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Speaker 3: Forty seven is tough. We had to do some research.

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Speaker 1: I had to do some research. We landed on John Lynch Tampa Bay buccaneer at forty seven.

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Speaker 3: Chris Cooley Redskins legend, and that might have been really it bear Bachmeyer, I would call it the legend, but we're kind of bottom of the barrel. Verst of forty seven's.

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Speaker 2: Clay Matthews.

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Speaker 3: Clay Matthews in college was forty seven Southern cal but we gotta let the other one introduced.

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Speaker 1: Yes, go ahead, try nice straight.

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Speaker 2: Pierce.

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Speaker 4: I played the tackle Newiversity of Michigan from Chicago, Illinois. Happy to be thank you.

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Speaker 1: Where'd you say you were from? Zach san Diego, Oh, san Diego. I love me and JP love San Diego. I mean, I don't think we're in some like quiet minority groups saying we love San Diego.

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Speaker 3: I like it too.

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Speaker 1: It's one one of the best players ever. But we've both recently been there, not so long ago. Great food, great atmosphere. But I think what I want to ask right off the bat, because we got an offense and a defensive guy, what's the superior side?

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Speaker 2: Of the line has to be offense. I mean, we know what's going on like that, I will say their reaction has to be better than ours. But the fact that like we we get to just go out there, play full speed and get after it, like offense has to be better, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, Trey, If you have any grit, any love for contact, any violence in your heart, if you if you are basically if you're a dog, you play defense. That's just the fact. I think everybody knows that. I think everybody kind of you watch the game, You're like, oh, yeah, you kind of have to be a nut job to do that. Like you gotta be, like you gotta have some shit to you to do that one. So, I mean offense, they make place, they may score touchdowns. But if you got you got any any violence in you, any any need for contact, you need to play defense. You gotta like I don't even understand, like how this is a question.

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Speaker 2: You have any need to win? You can always win on offense.

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Speaker 4: You can winch championship.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna follow up with that, you really win a single game by scoring more points than the other team. There's definitely been games out there where there's only been defensive points scored. I obviously could probably Iowa. Yeah, maybe maybe.

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Speaker 2: That's how I didn't they score more points.

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Speaker 3: That's like I would Nebraska every year.

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Speaker 2: They were like yeah, I think like the points were scored by the defense. Like two years ago, remember that OC was like the kid of the head coach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one time they one time they bet the FCS team like ten to seven, and they had like two field goals and like two safeties, like they crazy. They didn't score a touchdown. They had ten points and that's ten points. That's ten points score anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you gotta love it. You gotta love just the the team camaraderie completely mixed with like fuck you, motherfucker were better than you in practice, We're gonna motherfuck you. I like that stuff. Tell me a little bit about Kyle Whittingham. You guys have spent some time with him now, I've heard some rumors that back in the day and still now, he could throw up some weight and he's a physical guy. Just give me like first impression you guys have had with coach Whittingham.

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Speaker 4: First impressions, He's an intense guy, focused guy, and like he's more like he's more Jack than you think, like, you know, like like not to be no pause, he's pretty he's he's a rocked up got pause. He's a solid guy. Like he's pretty solid guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean if you look back in the day he does anyone remember what number he wore or Wittingham? Can somebody can you peep that? Can somebody check if he was forty that might be historic because he I think he might have been forty seven and wore a cowboy like a full neck roll.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's he looks like he's a great dude linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what's it feel like h playing under a coach who's defensive minded as an offensive guy? Is there like, is there any kind of like where he seems like he favors a defense a little more or is it more like the ocs like you guys are more.

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Speaker 2: N It's really funny. Forty four Okay, they still a good number though, great number four fourths, shout out Max Pretison, Cap, that's Cap. But you were saying defensive minded. I mean you get to the end of the practice with an offensive minded coach, and if the defense has a really good day and the offense has a decent day, dude, he is mfing you, like going at you. Meanwhile, a defensive minded coach is like, wow, that was a really competitive game, like a really competitive day. Like I feel like offensive minded coaches really care about, like the offense scoring points and say you like only score once or twice, they will get on you crazy, worst practice we've ever had. Meanwhile, like a defensive coach is like, yeah, great, great stops by everyone.

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Speaker 1: H a little back and forth.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, yeah, like, like I said, the offense, the defense does terrible. It's like, man, that was a great practice, Like everything was firing on all cylinders, and then the defensive coordinator pulls them the side and it's like, oh, man, that sucked.

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Speaker 4: I will say this though with like as a defensive guy, when the offense is having a bad practice, it it practice does feel like it sucks, Like it feels like we're we're in the same side of the field the whole practice. It's like, oh, like I would say that the impact feels worse when the offense is worse. When the defense is worse. It's like, oh, we're firing right, like.

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Speaker 2: Our offense is cooking. Man, we're gonna points. The defense is gonna do their job, but we're gonna put up points like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but then the offense is going not going good. It's like it's like, yeah, it doesn't look like it's muddy football.

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Speaker 3: So what's the message after the spring game when there's point when it's a very low scoring game.

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Speaker 4: You know, I mean, hey, yellow team may seem one. That's all I gotta say.

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Speaker 2: No crazy stat about spring games. I'm oh for four, damn four four spring games. Oh for four blue team, Blue team, mased team, blue team. Hopefully that's that's a plan.

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Speaker 4: But like three for three spring games, never lost undefeated.

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Speaker 3: H JP wants to know if y'all were both recruited by Jim Harball, what was it like and what was it like? Uh, his in home visit for y'all, you.

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Speaker 2: Gotta go home visit.

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Speaker 4: It was cool. It was pretty chill compared to some of the other stories. The only thing I remember about Harball is like, so he came in, Uh, we're eating Berria tacos and I guess they never had beeriad tacos. But he was also like he had his dip. So I'm eating my Berrio taco and I'm looking over his dip. Like bottle and I just like it was like, looky ruined it for me because I was thinking about the same color as the beer. Are you like the Yeah? Yeah, so I mean but it was a great I committed on my I committed on my home visit. So that was fun, Like were good? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: How was he? How was he with the family and stuff? Family?

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Speaker 3: I fel like he like he's a good family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just dispit I feel like he's checking every other dude.

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Speaker 3: I've been to that. I have an uncle who does that, and it would ruin my appetite. You just like when I'm like ten years old, family vacation just sets out there, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, what is that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah you cheer?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like no.

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Speaker 2: My mine was funny. We were watching Bucks Saints either on a Thursday or Monday. I'm trying to remember if it was a Thursday or Monday, but it was like an off. It was a weird day. Family brought in some pie from like a really nice Spanish restaurant like Fantastic Him Grant new some and Matt Wise or the three guys that came yeah to my my house visit. I don't know, if you gotta know a lot about that whole situation about wi.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we all got to get into it.

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Speaker 2: We don't. I'm just like, yeah, but those three show up. After he finished dinner, Coach Harball goes instantly.

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Speaker 1: To the couch.

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Speaker 5: Is there there's a game on tonight, right, you guys got recliner, You gotta recliner?

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Speaker 4: Feet up?

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Speaker 6: Is he shoes on in the house, shoes on, shoes on in the house, feed up diet coke, sweet tea, and then I think he had a dip like a spit, a spit too, So.

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Speaker 2: We had three three things right here.

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Speaker 5: He's like, I'm a good football coach, but you know what I'm really good at watch the ball.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 5: I've always been a good football coach from man, this is where I belong. Right here, Eddie's full reclined, watches the entire game.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't leave my house.

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Speaker 1: That is that recliner typically in that house, Does it belong to one particular person.

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Speaker 2: Like my mom? Where he where he sat?

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Speaker 1: See? Because like I feel like if I'd be in the house and they said, like my pops share something, I'm like, oh mane.

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Speaker 2: See Luckily my dad sat right next to him. I'm a fan. There's so there's there are two recliners and then there's like a like a three person seat over here, and I just I sprawled across that thing. But so I'm sprawled across that thing. They're sitting right here. The other coaches are out there, you know, chatting with my mom and trying to like, you know, sell sell me on Michigan. Sure, I'm already committed at this point, but they're still gonna make sure, you know. But dude, he was at my house, I want to say, until like eleven.

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Speaker 3: PM once at the end of the game he had to watch at the end of the game, and.

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Speaker 2: They was like, you know, I'll just I'll just go down to Coronado.

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Speaker 5: I got a house down there.

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Speaker 1: I got house.

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Speaker 2: So he's, yeah, I guess he's got a place over there, like in San Diego.

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Speaker 3: Used to coach at San Diego.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's when he.

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Speaker 1: That's when he bought his house.

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Speaker 5: And he was like, yeah, you know what, I'll just go over to my house.

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Speaker 1: You guys.

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Speaker 2: You guys get to the airport.

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Speaker 3: This impression is like spot on.

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Speaker 7: Is it?

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Speaker 2: My buddy?

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Speaker 1: His name is Austin Winfrey. He was on the strength staff in twenty twenty to twenty twenty two, I believe. I don't know if he would have been there with y'all, but there I cannot remember.

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Speaker 2: That's when I showed up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it might have been right at the end. But he would always tell me hilarious Harball stories about him showing up, you know, five am, and he's working out in his khakis and cam felt on, and he said, and I don't know if he was just trying to pull one on me, but I believe Hi when he says it that after workout one day, he got in the cold tubs, full khakis, full polo on, and then gets out and then like proceeds to go through his day, and I'm like, there's there, Like there's no way. The feeling of wet pants on is one thing I know. I know Harbball can be a psycho. I'm sure, like a good psycho, but I don't think anyone's psychotic enough to do that. But maybe he is that guy. I don't know if y'll have any of those. How long was Harball with you guys? And until he was gone one year?

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Speaker 2: For me, it was like eighteen months, so the season and spring. But for you it was just the season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got during the summer. He was gone by like so after the NATY he left, so like probably six seven minutes in January.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that.

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Speaker 4: Something like that.

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Speaker 1: No, that's cool. I mean to get to be under such a legendary coaches, it's got to be something you'll talk about forever. I mean, just like the funny impressions and him putting the feet up on the couch and spitting dip in your home.

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Speaker 2: I want to know.

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Speaker 3: And we don't have to get into it if it's whatever. But like when he I don't know the extent of like y'all knew him looking at the NFL, like when he took that job, Like what was y'all's thought press like process about like your future at Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Did were you able to go to the meeting? I had a class. I don't want to clock class, so you were you were at the meeting. So we all get like told, hey, show up at like what was it one thirty or something like that.

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Speaker 4: Right, It's like like we got the Twitter notifications, Like walking up to the meeting, we're getting Twitter for notifications like oh yeah, Harbor took the Chargers job. My bad, we got the like, my bad, we got the notification like right before the meeting, like, oh, Harbor take the Chargers job. And we're walking into the meetings. We're like, I guess we know what the meeting is about, like and then we goes in there. He's like, yeah, took the charger's job. Tell us. So he's excited to coach Herbert.

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Speaker 3: That's such a funny thing. That's such a funny.

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Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, he's six sax chuck man. I like that guy, what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Did your whole team and you're out here?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm really excited to cut justin Herbert, Like.

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Speaker 3: He really does. You're good, dude. That's so funny. You know, the vibes are high after winning the Natty, just like Jim's still riding it. Are we still going like yeah, no, we're so he's taking he's just taking a call. We're going on the see like I understand the decision. I mean, that's what That's why I don't really never would follow a coach for going to the NFL, Like come on, like that's what that's what we're especially when he got like so close to his Super Bowl when he was there, Like he was good in the NFL before he was at Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Also, just the quality of life in the NFL versus college as a coach, like being able to actually have time.

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Speaker 3: Oh, probably even more so, Like nowadays it's more money for less work.

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Speaker 2: It's more money for less work. They don't have to do the recruiting. Like think about that. The coaches aren't selling you on the recruiting.

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Speaker 3: He he doesn't have to deal with nil anymore either, Well he got out of.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's called a collective bargaining agreement, so you know, gets paid exactly what they are are told.

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Speaker 4: Like the GM NFL is way better as a coach, Like you can go to the NFL, Like come on, it's like displayer. If you can go to an NFL, you go to the NFL.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, yeah, I feel like you can't follow him for that how long? I forget the timeline? So, like, I guess you all technically had like I know you hired within, but you had a like a coaching search for a little bit, Like did they like update y'all about like because like y'all are kind of like suspended and like kind of in flux. So like what did y'all know about like your next head coach after that?

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Speaker 2: Which one after Jim or after after Jim after Jim. I mean we kind of we were pretty clued in. They were like, we're going to make sure that we check everything right. The athletic director came in here, like, we're gonna try to make sure we check all you know what it's it, cross all your teeth, dot all your eyes, like make sure that everything was ready. But we knew it was going to coach more.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, they I think at that point they were like really focused on like keeping the roster together. We're like a lot of guys from the nat of year who had another year left, like like all that that whole twenty two class got drafted first, second, third round, so I mean they were really just going to keep a lot of guys there. So they were like, I mean, they made the pick this round, so yeah, they're just trying to keep us out all there.

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Speaker 3: I feel like if you're like a Mason Graham or like Kenneth Grant or cold, like if you're like going in the first round and you just want to Natty like why would you leave, Like did you have one more year? Like go play, like why would you leave money money? But like but like I don't know how much they were making. Actually I was gonna say they probably.

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Speaker 2: They had to retain people, you know what I mean retained. And the craziest part is like that was I mean, I guess after that was like the first year of like people really getting good contracts or even kind of starting the contract thing. I mean, if you could have been a freshman in twenty twenty four, that would have been the best time, like to be a freshman. I mean, those guys are still righting the coat tails of just getting paid. Crazy. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well yeah, like, welcome to college football, you guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if if y'all couldn't hear JP he said, he's asking what they're welcome to college football moment?

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Speaker 2: Is I have a good one?

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Speaker 4: Do you have a good one? I don't have a good one, but you can mine.

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Speaker 2: Mine's in a practice which Tray was giving the movie Tray. Yeah. No, Trey actually showed up on the first day and just started little like little boying everyone. So you know he was. He was three hundred and fifteen pounds, just yoked and running straight through all of our senior guard's faces. No, I'm just kidding. But for me, it was in a We had this drill called beat Ohio and this linebacker that ut pays plays at Georgia State. His name's Jayden Hood. You remember j Hood Hood, and he would take the soul out of people like puss pause, but he would just hit you so hard. There's no poth yeah, no pause. Jaden Hood hits so incredibly hard and always leads with the crown of his helmet like just that guy half the time, ninety percent of the time isn't gonna make the play, but he's gonna hurt the person that he hits. It's great, it's fantastic. And we I had a I basically had like insert inside zone on him. And I was seventeen years old, two hundred and eight pounds on my third day, Cali boy man bun and everything. Dude, we don't have to bring that back.

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Speaker 3: But I'm a reference pick bro.

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Speaker 2: I answered through that hole and I'm standing just like this as Jaden Hood just runs flat through my face. My helmet ends up tripping up our running back like it it's the worst play ever. Like, I'm not giving you all the film for that. I think I tried to delete it from the exos you know database. It's somewhere someone has that film and they're probably gonna bring it up in like my NFL. You know they have everything. They have everything, dude.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they know everything. Honestly, my welcome to college for the moment was like, honestly, I didn't get like crazy. I probably like against Iowa Big Ten, I was like on punt return and I was like trying to break the shield up. I'm running, so I'm running as hard as I can. It's a shield. Some like savvy like guy on the shield. He just like gets me right here under my helmet, gets me my like like jaw. He like fractured my jaw. Yeah, I didn't. I couldn't eat normally for it was like it wasn't too bad. I don't have I didn't eat surgery or anything.

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Speaker 1: Mouth jaw break seems like one of the worst injuries eating from.

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Speaker 2: A tube that that Kanye wire jaw just using.

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Speaker 1: A blender tube. All right. On the opposite of that question, what was the moment where you were like all right, I'm here to stay like I'm I'm making plays like where you were like you're screaming up at the Big House like this is my fucking city. Like y'all got a moment like that. It doesn't have to be at the Big House. But you know what I'm saying, yelling back to Michigan.

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Speaker 4: You know it's bad because we lost this game, and uh, I didn't do I didn't I had a good game. I didn't play that much of my sophomore year. Uh you know they that sophomore year, you know, we ha KG and Mason Graham like so we're I wasn't playing like a bunch. But we played Oregon at the Big House. They put me in for like four plays and I made like two tackles tackle for loss and that I was like, all right, yeah, I can play this game. Like they had the starter stealing, so I was like, all right, I could play here.

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Speaker 1: And going off the sideline to everyone's smacking your help. Yeah a feeling.

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Speaker 4: And I had like messed up earlier in the game. I had like messed up bad like if you watch the game, you know, like I had a penalty that was pretty bad. And then like so I went back in there and I made those plays. I was like, all right, all right, I feel a little bit better.

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Speaker 2: But I kind of have two. One on like special teams where I was like, Okay, I can actually like participate in this, and then one in like actual game. The obvious one is against Washington, right like first like real start, first play the game. I'm in second place, you know what I mean, Like the whole entire game I was. I was, I was the one, and then going for five seventy two on a todd like winning that game because it was kind of an important game, like a lot of part exactly, a lot of people were like you lose, we lose that game. It's like it's the rails are off there, Like wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna let that happen, especially with that being like my first real start, So that was very important, like a real moment of like yeah I can. That was when I went from being like I could be a contributor to being the guy versus first play of the twenty would that be twenty five season or twenty four to twenty five season play Fresno State? Yeah, the opening kick return, I just sprint. I'm I was one of the shield guys last year, like full wed shield run through it like back up to the ten yard line is just sprint at some crazy linebacker at the five position and I got a pancake on the opening kickoff and I was like, all right, I can do this. That was That was kind of my moment. Washington. Washington was home this year. Last year was away and we lost that game. I don't want to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Shot out Jack Tittle.

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Speaker 2: Dude, it wasn't that loud.

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Speaker 4: It's beautiful though. The drive up we're driving on like the bridge and we see like the boats in the water. I'm like, wow, this place is. I can move to Seattle like that was. It's beautiful.

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Speaker 3: That city seem sick that Actually I wanted to ask besides the Big House, this might be a two parter. Well, the first one is like favorite stadium you played at it's not Michigan. And then the other one is besides the Michigan State and Ohio State, who do you all hate the most in the Big Ten Conference?

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Speaker 7: Rival talk?

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Speaker 4: Stadium wise, like Washington's fire like Washington, that's that's the best stadium that I've seen. I think because I haven't been to like I've been to Heavy Valley that the stadium is like it's allowed, but it's.

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Speaker 3: So ugly, like it's so ugly of concrete.

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Speaker 4: And then yeah, but like Washington, that stadium is beautiful, man, like Seattle's beautiful city.

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Speaker 3: Like the second part is going to get you all in trouble, bolton Board materially, you don't have to answer it.

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Speaker 2: Rivalry, Well, I'll landswer to the stadium because I'll give you more time to think about who who we can ruffle feathers Worth because I already went onto the podcast and said Michigan State sucks. So I know, I mean like I was a little fired up. I went a little aggressive.

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was just happy to be here, guys. But I'm not back Michigan, but like, yeah, I was, I was fired up. Now, as far as stadium, Washington's most pretty, but like as far as coolest vibe, just kind of being there, it might be like Nebraska Illinois.

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Speaker 1: Nebraska by three touchdowns. Yeah, I mean, all the juice is out of that place almost.

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Speaker 2: They were in the balloons were cool.

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Speaker 1: Is one of the coolest things in college football, like that whole I've also heard that Iowa was really cool.

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Speaker 2: You went to Iowa?

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Speaker 4: Right, Oh no, we never haven't four years we have even been at Oregon.

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Speaker 2: We go to Oregon this year we go to Austen. Will be fun. And then as far as like people that we just like, I guess I'd have to put it at like someone that I thought was going to offer me and then it so like it's more like personal. Yeah, would be either SC or U c l A. Like both of them they're supposed to like offer me, and then like neither of them offered me in their backyard in my back home state, and I was like super excited, super pumped to talk to both of them.

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Speaker 1: And then who would you rather go on to becides U c l A or UC of those two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have really came down to a lot of factors, like how much flight time I would.

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Speaker 1: Get, how much money they're getting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bread never hurts. Huh.

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Speaker 1: Now that's fair. I like that because I feel like you're not giving too much bulletin bull like that that everybody.

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Speaker 3: Has, that everybody has.

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Speaker 2: That that's like a good one to if you want to represent your state, you're I guess it's not my city, but it was my parents' city, you know what I mean? Like La La is important to me. That's where my family's from. Yeah, but now I'm out here in ann Arbor and I have zero regrets.

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Speaker 1: Zero outside the football culture and in Arbor. What's y'all favorite aspect of that town?

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Speaker 4: The restaurants. But I've been me, and I like me, and I like some of the other d lemon. We've been going to some restaurants, like exploring it, and I like that side.

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Speaker 2: Because you've got money now, huh yeah, yeah, man.

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Speaker 4: We went from three hundred dollars a month. Man, let me explore and exploring.

00:25:23
Speaker 2: Like you know, like dude, our first year here, we made three hundred dollars a month.

00:25:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, in the dorms were inms.

00:25:29
Speaker 2: Three hundred dollars a month.

00:25:30
Speaker 4: That was.

00:25:31
Speaker 2: That was basically how like college football was before before everything like the thing went up a little bit. But yeah, three hundred dollars a month to now these crazy an IL contracts, Like what the heck?

00:25:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, JPS, if there's any fun first purchases.

00:25:51
Speaker 4: So uh yeah, I bought a bought a car. I was driving the hon A CRV my parents. How a CRV? Nah about? I bought a BMW X five in competition, I know the cr vs bro my god, it feels like a downgrade, especially in getting gas, Like.

00:26:11
Speaker 2: I guess it's I guess mine would probably be the car to like I about a Maserati.

00:26:20
Speaker 1: Dang, and that's not the most expensive purchase. I don't know.

00:26:24
Speaker 2: I do own I own the house, but that's with my family. So my family kind of went these on the house. They stay up here during the fall with me, so get home cooked meals.

00:26:34
Speaker 1: Heck, yeah, they get to.

00:26:35
Speaker 2: Come to every single one of my games. Vary, but the Maserati was mentioned.

00:26:41
Speaker 1: Hey, who's got the on y'all team? Who's got the most expensive cars? A Bryce Hunter? But he's got that lambow, doesn't he?

00:26:48
Speaker 7: Or he?

00:26:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, him and Marsh were taking photo that.

00:26:54
Speaker 2: Was that was that was them traveling. So I don't expensive car.

00:26:58
Speaker 4: I think, who oh, let's just go Biff.

00:27:01
Speaker 1: Biff drives the rolls.

00:27:03
Speaker 2: But Likeff used.

00:27:04
Speaker 1: To pull up.

00:27:10
Speaker 3: Driving, that was gonna be like a beat up trunk.

00:27:12
Speaker 2: He drives a cooling in.

00:27:14
Speaker 4: Yeah it's a flexorro like shout out, Biff. I don't know if I'm out, But he like, you know, the spirit of ecstasy on the top. He would keep it on lock. So the spirit of ecstasy. Never went down, never went down.

00:27:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is so funny.

00:27:31
Speaker 4: It's so it was a beautiful car player with the most expensive car. Oh no, man, there's guys with multiple cars. Yeah, they got some some nice ask.

00:27:43
Speaker 1: I can't imagine. The parking lots these days are really prominent, Like college football programs. The parking lots just gotta be millions of dollars.

00:27:51
Speaker 2: It's probably just like souped up trucks and hellcats.

00:27:54
Speaker 1: That's about all.

00:27:55
Speaker 2: Like, those are the two things. You got, your your big old Lineman driving those souped up truck, crazy Silverado's zel like with the with the big old Corvette motors and them.

00:28:05
Speaker 1: And then you got yeah, very scat packs.

00:28:09
Speaker 4: The super duringos Man.

00:28:13
Speaker 3: We got so many, it says Michigan, more like a Richigan rich Agan. Yeah, my guess is that's a good guess.

00:28:34
Speaker 2: Okay, do I get one guess?

00:28:36
Speaker 3: I get a guess. I don't know, I know exactly who it is. You'll guess no, no, no, Jery.

00:28:46
Speaker 2: So it's got to be Jack.

00:28:49
Speaker 3: You could be talking about.

00:28:53
Speaker 1: That's fair.

00:28:53
Speaker 2: That's fair my guess.

00:28:56
Speaker 1: Honestly, that would have been my guess to chef.

00:28:59
Speaker 3: Really, I feel like this got Derek written all over it.

00:29:01
Speaker 1: Honestly.

00:29:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a Derek side quest.

00:29:05
Speaker 1: That is all right? So you did say kind of backtracking, U, C l A or USC would have been an awesome school if you got offered. What is one school in the nation that if you if you're not giving any shade in Michigan that you'd love to go play for today?

00:29:19
Speaker 3: Wait, also, I also still want to know who Trade doesn't like besides Michigan Sate. Don't have to say okay, yeah, I don't want to let them get away with that.

00:29:27
Speaker 4: I was gonna. I was thinking, like who gave me like the most troublehood? Who I felt like like the grittiest, like like push after the play tipe guys, And this might be underrated and they're underrated line like Northwestern they're an underrated.

00:29:41
Speaker 2: Line cheap shot in people.

00:29:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were physical and then they would go through the whistle and like we were in Wrigley Field, that that would Wriggle Field. We played at field. That was beautiful.

00:29:52
Speaker 3: That's pretty cool to be to be able to play at Wrigley Yeah, that was pretty That's not like a bad ball game.

00:29:56
Speaker 4: I like, Yeah, twenty five people in the stands too, so like they're everything. It did felt personally. I was like, man, they weren't even they were in big ship talkers, but like they were physical and they like you could feel them. Like after the gain, I was like these guys.

00:30:09
Speaker 2: Were Dude, they're talking about that Northwestern game. There's a terrible clip of me landing on my head. Do you remember that, dude? I got flipped? If you pulled it up? Fox Sports reposted it. Yes, it was bad, and it was like, man, I'm gonna sit my dumb ass down. That's the cat like the sound behind it, and I'm like, really, come on, man, I like I I like got like a like a hip pointer and my whole back like spassed up.

00:30:36
Speaker 3: It was bad.

00:30:37
Speaker 4: Oh I do remember that?

00:30:38
Speaker 7: Oh?

00:30:39
Speaker 2: Like Fox Sports posted reposted that, or like dude posted it on their on their main page. You did, I But now you were saying who would he go play for?

00:30:49
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right now today is in May? Was it sixth? Who if you could leave Michigan? And we're not saying you want to leave Michigan, but who would you go play for? Today? In twenty twenty six and College Football World No In I own money. I just person you can say coach.

00:31:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be my old tight ends coach Steve Casula wherever he ends up, Like I would love to play with him if it's the NFL college like that amazing. He's an amazing person. Whether I can coach side by side with him, Like he's one of those people like I would follow the store for Like love that guy. He's made me who I am today.

00:31:26
Speaker 4: I love it Texas right now, that's not a bad place for say or.

00:31:31
Speaker 1: In I own money.

00:31:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, NFL, that's pretty good school.

00:31:37
Speaker 4: I was just factored in, like uh in Io like city, like they're good at football right now, Like I got I got one of my boys down there. Like I would say Miami, Like Miami seems kind of fun.

00:31:49
Speaker 1: He's got to visit Miami And if if I was lucky to even play college football at y'all's level, Miami would be an awesome place to go the workouts in the summer. You gotta earn in your spot in Miami. But man, that is one program they got building back up to uh a historic level. Marrow christ Ball too is just an absolute dogs like him and maybe have some similarity crossovers in the vinn diagram. But yeah, Miami is a good answer. And so it's Texas.

00:32:18
Speaker 2: So what what NFL team do you.

00:32:21
Speaker 1: All feel like?

00:32:22
Speaker 2: For you defense most fun defense part of offense?

00:32:27
Speaker 3: Do you think that audience?

00:32:29
Speaker 4: Do you have an answer go for I'm d lineman right now, But the Texans are crazy. They have fun over there, like yeah, Will Anderson, Man, they just got they got some guys down there, a good team.

00:32:46
Speaker 2: That's a great wow, and the guys are awesome.

00:32:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, they just drafted Kim McDonald from Ohio State. They're gonna be Yeah. I mean, bro, they're gonna be good. They seemed fun to like that defense seems fun to play in general.

00:32:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you got about to have him on on busting here pretty soon. But the Sean McVay offense, the way they use their tight ends, like the way they used hybrid receiver tight ends, like all of it. Right, I could go in line, I could line up, go crack, crack block, do all of it. So being an offense similar to that, I'm not saying rams you have to drive, but I would love it. I'd love it.

00:33:18
Speaker 3: He just wants against the Cardinals.

00:33:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, two free wins against Cards. I want to beat the Niners every single every single year. That'd be great.

00:33:29
Speaker 1: Dude.

00:33:29
Speaker 2: George Skittle is still my favorite favorite player period, like favorite player in the NFL. It's it's George Kittle, friend of our show.

00:33:37
Speaker 1: He's been on George, which I assume George Kittle listens every week. But he still owes us a game more jersey. That he said, and he actually went to the extent to he d m me on Twitter and was like, hey, uh, send me the address for this jersey and I sent it to him. He's a busy guy, you know.

00:33:55
Speaker 2: He and he know he lost in transit, lost in transit.

00:33:58
Speaker 1: They could have been And that's why I'm I'm hoping because we consider Georgia close friend of ours. We ran into him at the Super Bowl. He's always been great to us, a kind man. So we're we're not at the point where it's gun to the head, but we are loading the gun. So, okay, outside of football, if you guys weren't playing, what what would life be like for y'all? Like, what do you want to do if if you guys weren't like trending for the NFL?

00:34:25
Speaker 3: You'd also add like what are you doing in school?

00:34:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, that too.

00:34:28
Speaker 2: Yeah for me student first, I was always going to play like college sports of some sort, whether it was gonna be rugby or football. So I guess I would probably be doing rugby at like an ivy or something like that. But as far as just academically, if football were taken away from me now, I would still go into like football operations stuff. On the business side of it, whether it's agency, whether that's starting and recruiting and working my way up to being either like a GM or something of that nature, would be like kind of my dream dream situation. And I want to help like put together like a union for a Double A players like things like that. That's that's what I'm really really into, like building that like business community around myself.

00:35:13
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Yeah, that's a great question. I mean major in communications right now, so I think maybe something to do with that, like, but man, that's a that's a great question, hopefully. I mean, I think I'd still be playing a sport. I'll probably be playing baseball.

00:35:30
Speaker 2: But you're going to the league, bro, don't even worry about it. I mean, you're going to the league's.

00:35:45
Speaker 4: En We asked questions.

00:35:49
Speaker 7: Came.

00:35:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, that the like summer interns.

00:35:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are the non sport athletes.

00:35:55
Speaker 3: I don't think that. I don't think the Michigan interns last year came out here. I don't even think we had started.

00:35:59
Speaker 1: No, we I don't think we had that. We started like a month after right before Grinders. Yeah, I can't remember really all those questions we asked the guys who most of them now currently work here. We're pretty much like gotcha journalism questions.

00:36:15
Speaker 3: I mean we could ask like what, like, what's I mean it's only Wednesday.

00:36:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, let me give you guys a little compliment, like not to dig on Nico and what's the other news name. Not to dig on those guys. And they did an awesome job. We had a great time, you guys being like very prominent, you know, Michigan football players. It's cool to see you guys jumping to learn things and seeing me all at desks the last couple of days and like really trying to evolve yourselves in the work process because like at the end of the day, y'all necessarily wouldn't have to the same reason we just asked that question. You're like, man, I'm going to the league. You didn't say that. We said that, you know, and we believe that. But it's cool to see you guys jump in the mix and like really be eager to learn. And I know everyone here appreciates that. So again, kudos y'all. And it's already been dope and we're only halfway through the week. But I feel like, what's y'all's first thoughts on this work, because it's been an interesting week no matter what we have, it's been a weird week in general for what's going on.

00:37:17
Speaker 3: And you can also add like favorite parts so far, even though, like we said, it's Wednesday, we got half the week to go.

00:37:23
Speaker 2: The fact that we just called a team meeting and sent Matt alone to the other side of the fricking country. Dude, we just sent him to go get a car. Now he's currently eating a seventy two ounce steak.

00:37:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's he's live or live.

00:37:38
Speaker 2: Dude, he's live eating a seventy two ounces.

00:37:40
Speaker 3: I think they were trying to get Wi Fi at the restaurant to go live.

00:37:43
Speaker 1: They're not live yet, dude.

00:37:45
Speaker 2: The fact that I got to actually make like the edit for it, and like the fact that you guys actually posted that, right, A guy who's like, yeah, I've done a little bit of Funno edit him, because I've done like TikTok and crap like that, or like make my own posters for camps and stuff. But like you guys, actually, y'all, y'all got a lot more followers to me. Let's just put it that way, And y'all just posted that. I was like, I'm I'm pumped. Like the fact that you guys give is kind of a little creative liberty to just play around. I know, you got to make cliffs that got posted.

00:38:13
Speaker 4: Like yeah, I don't know, I mean, shout out Jared. He pretty much walked me through everything. I never used premiere before. So, like, I think my favorite part of this is just like being around the guys, Like you have an amazing like culture here, Like I'm downstairs and like it's all jokes. It doesn't feel like I feel like dang. Like it doesn't feel like work, Like it doesn't feel like I'm at school like trying to grind out like projects. It feels like pretty cool. It's like, oh, team meeting about to go play four square, Like that's that's like, that's super chill like I think that's my favorite, like my favorite like thing here. I guess it's saying like it doesn't have to I don't have to go like working in office if not playing football and just like hate my life. Like yeah, yeah, that's pretty much that's the thing.

00:38:53
Speaker 2: I got another thing I want to add, like kind of kind of on that jokes jokes thing you guys making a show up in suits or maybe that was just like show up in suits.

00:39:04
Speaker 1: That's what happened.

00:39:05
Speaker 2: We didn't.

00:39:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, the intern showed up in suits last year.

00:39:07
Speaker 2: Y'all picked dude. It's so. And then like Derek walking up here being like or he didn't walk up here, but like I'm over there grinding out something. He's like, hey, Coop, you got him doing something? No, man, we just finished, all right, come on, you come with me, dude. I thought I thought I was. I thought I was gonna put to work.

00:39:27
Speaker 3: You're finally gonna put to work.

00:39:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just play Madden like it was. Sorry, n C double A. I don't know if we do. You all have rights to Madden? Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Well the fact is, and then I you know, handed him the game because I was I could have I could have rinsed him. I was I was up, I was up seven just just alright.

00:39:50
Speaker 3: They were doing they were doing a busting Bowl Natty in there, busting Bowl National Championship.

00:39:58
Speaker 2: Can we can? We can we get?

00:40:00
Speaker 4: I don't have the game?

00:40:02
Speaker 2: How do you not have the game?

00:40:03
Speaker 4: I give the code to my brother and then I don't have five. But it's like in my closet right.

00:40:08
Speaker 2: Now, working your brother. I'm yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, is it your brother in the game too?

00:40:14
Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, yeah, he.

00:40:15
Speaker 3: Will be yeah is he really?

00:40:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're younger than me.

00:40:22
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, are you hard on him or are you like trying to like coach him up in the right ways? Are you kind of like motherfucking him in public? And then probably be like, hey man, we gotta tighten these things up.

00:40:31
Speaker 4: Nah, No, it's not a relationship. I just tell him the truth, Like I mean, I don't lie to him. I just be like he'll be like yeah, am I Like am I slow right now? I'm like yeah, I'm like he's not. It's nothing like he'll tell me the truth too, Like if he's like, bro, like you look ridiculous right now, It's like Okay, I can trust him, you know for sure, Like we've always had that relationship where we could tell each other the truth and like, yeah, so right now, it's just like a big adjustment because he's coming from Western Illinois. He transferred in like he's just the grinder though he's he's his work ethic is crazy.

00:41:02
Speaker 1: What was alike when you found out your brother's coming to play ball with you?

00:41:06
Speaker 4: I was, I was that was my life's complete.

00:41:07
Speaker 1: You know.

00:41:08
Speaker 4: It's like my parents they don't have to go like choose between going to his Western Illinois games.

00:41:12
Speaker 1: And it's like no disrespect to Western Illinois. It's like, you know, the game at the big House might be a little more important. Yeah, you know, it's like we don't we love our sons.

00:41:21
Speaker 3: Now it's two birds one so now, yeah, which is awesome.

00:41:25
Speaker 4: My parents they don't even see I don't think that they see even saw.

00:41:27
Speaker 1: It like that, but they probably did. They probably loving great parents. Where if I had kids, you know, hey, you better be d one, you better be a starter, you better be doing it.

00:41:37
Speaker 2: Like if your brothers d one and you're not, I'm going to your brother. That's a crazy take. Crazy, that's not unheard of, not at all.

00:41:46
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's it's been great having him there, like shout, shoutout, Chris. We don't they put the freshmen in or like in the transfers, they put them in a nice ass apartments. Yeah, but it's expensive, so I'm not living out there. I'm not living on campus.

00:42:05
Speaker 1: Pretty yeah, pretty on the dot. We do need to get tapped into this live stream for mad. Do we have any other questions before we kind of start wrapping things up.

00:42:14
Speaker 7: I don't know.

00:42:15
Speaker 3: I'm not the question guy.

00:42:16
Speaker 4: I got a question for you guys.

00:42:18
Speaker 3: All right, let's go.

00:42:19
Speaker 4: If you weren't working for Busting, what would you be doing right now?

00:42:24
Speaker 1: Probably playing the league? You know? I JP? Do you want to like you here?

00:42:31
Speaker 2: I walk this one well, I mean JP, I think JP has got the most followers of all of us, so.

00:42:39
Speaker 1: JP on Twitter?

00:42:40
Speaker 7: Does I think if I was completely removed from Busting and like doing work with brands and everything, I'd probably be a teacher. I love working with kids or like maybe a like a camp direct, like a summer camp director, and like, yeah, I just I get so much joy out of working with kids trying to help, you know, like mold them into good, good people going forward, and or I would love to do my own podcast on the side, which I would love for it to blow up.

00:43:13
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that's probably be my answer.

00:43:15
Speaker 1: Okay, JP be an all star teacher, and if you've known JP for five minutes, you know immediately he would fit that mold so quickly.

00:43:24
Speaker 2: But what subject, that's the real question.

00:43:26
Speaker 1: I know, probably like a like a college course on entrepreneurs.

00:43:31
Speaker 2: Oh so like an entrepreneurship class. Yeah, that's that's actually far. That's actually far.

00:43:35
Speaker 3: I think, do you want to go? You want to go?

00:43:37
Speaker 1: You know what yours is?

00:43:38
Speaker 7: Yeah?

00:43:38
Speaker 3: I would say, like probably if I wasn't a bust and I would be doing graphic design. My goal, like when I started out design was to be like a pro baseball football team or like a high level like college like basketball football, uh like in their creative team whatever like that. But I would say if I wasn't doing graphics like period, I'd probably still be like in the family business doing like mortgage loans back in Texas, and I do love Texas. It was hard to leave Texas, so I would definitely still be back home like DFW because like sometimes I get fomo. I know my my family, like my brother and dad probably get fomo for something I'm doing. But sometimes they're like they're going golfing today. I'm like, uh, like I'm not. I'm not back there. I can't hang with them, so I'd probably be back home doing the doing the family stuff.

00:44:25
Speaker 1: That's real. I like a realistic option. My dad I did like door to door sales and a couple different sales jobs. Like realistically, probably like a sales job. I know I'd be good at it and make good money. I wouldn't necessarily love it, but an unrealistic one that I could, I would. My soul would be rich, but my pockets would be broke. Would be like ocean photography. My brother lives out in Hawaii, and there was a moment before I started working here where I wanted to go and move out there and like basically film all kinds of like action sports stuff on water and mainly surfing stuff because I love swimming and I'm not a good surfer, but I am a good swimmer. So being able to just like be on the water and capture that and just kind of probably build like a following around that because there's not like you don't just like apply to be like an ocean photographer. It's not like jobs jumping out. But I guess yeah, that'd be my like to kind of what if, you know, a realistic one. And then somewhere where I'm out at the beach just hanging out, putting on too much sunscreen. So yeah, I think that's where we're at. That's for the league, so or the league.

00:45:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, go to the league.

00:45:31
Speaker 3: It early me too early early, he said.

00:45:35
Speaker 2: JP said he chose not to cho Yeah, it was a choice, you know, dude, Well.

00:45:41
Speaker 1: You guys actually killed this interview. Yeah, great answers. And I know that some Michigan diehards are gonna flood into our mentions, which will be awesome for us and for y'all kind of get more of a you know, just some some good conversation flow out there. And you guys are great at what you're doing. We appreciate the work you are putting in. It's been dope, Avenue y'all.

00:46:00
Speaker 2: Thank you. We appreciate you guys just kind of leading us having having having a good time out here playing with four square getting we.

00:46:06
Speaker 3: Got to play right after this, getting ratch for it. We haven't played today.

00:46:09
Speaker 1: Yet hopefully will.

00:46:19
Speaker 4: Appreciate you. Thank thanks, thanks for this, like it's a crazy opportunity. Appreciate you guys.

00:46:25
Speaker 1: Dude, We're excited to come up to to Michigan again the Fall have some actual friends there and you know, just to see you guys dominate. So best of luck in the future. Stoke for this week, Coop, you want to close us out.

00:46:37
Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much for watching episode forty seven, the Clay Matthews USC episode, the Chris Cooley episode. I forgot the other one, but thank Lynch, John Lynch for Downs Legend. Anyways, all y'all tune in next week episode forty eight. Thank you,