Breaking Down The Braves' Schedule Mess After Wet Wednesday

Hammer Territory: an Atlanta Braves podcast

Brad Rowland and Scott Coleman co-host Episode 87 of the Hammer Territory podcast.

Topics for the show include the scheduling mess created by a pair of postponed matchups between the Atlanta Braves and the New York Mets, the leak wars between the two teams, the upcoming series between the Braves and the Royals, Atlanta's pitching approach, Monday's looming doubleheader, and much more.

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00:00:22
Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, and welcome to episode eighty seven of the Hemmy Territory podcast. I am your host, Sprad Roland, coming to you on a Wednesday, a little bit earlier than scheduled previously, and I'm joined on the podcast today about my co host that I'm always joined by. His name is Scott Coleman. Scott, how are you after a rain soaked today and lots of controversy?

00:00:39
Speaker 2: Hey, Brad, I'm doing okay. I was really hoping we were going to get another baseball game tonight with Chris Sale on the mound, especially after such an enjoyable opener to the series on Tuesday. But I think it's kind of everybody suspected today's game just never had a chance of being played, Tomorrow's game never really had a chance of being played, And now with just a couple of days left in the regular season, plus the potential now for a Monday maybe double header, things are very very interesting for a plethora of reasons.

00:01:14
Speaker 1: Yes, And I imagine if you're listening to this podcast, you probably understand what has happened already, but we're going to recap it in a second and kind of tell you where things were the last day or so where things are going. We'll kind of preview Braves Royals later on in the podcast, and yeah, play to discuss on a show even without a game to break down. We should also stay at the top of the podcast, as we always do that. We are part of the foul Territory network of podcasts. Please subscribe to hemb A Territory. Anywhere you find your podcast, please leave five star ratings and reviews. Also check out a crossover edition, our first ever crossover edition that we recorded on Tuesday. It was actually myself and Steven Tolbert on the Brave side along with the hosts of the Metsed Up podcast that happened on Tuesday. It was a fun discussion that was what you heard in the same podcast feed if you were a regular subscriber.

00:02:02
Speaker 2: But listen to that one.

00:02:03
Speaker 1: We did cover the game on Tuesday, which is why Scott and I were not going to go deep into that game now, because we already did on this podcast. But a good boy to start there. Scott is kind of talk about like where things are at this stage the Brives to win the opener on Tuesday. I mean, you and I haven't talked since then. We don't have to break down the game, but the arkitecessus last night was basically like, hey, the job's not done. But that was a necessary step one for the Braves. Obviously, a huge game, the biggest leverage spot of the season, so to speak, and they went out and won it, which kind of was nice, especially not knowing what was going to happen.

00:02:35
Speaker 2: The next day and all that stuff.

00:02:37
Speaker 1: Imagine if the Braves had lost and we did this entire round of weather discussion after a loss and looking up at a three.

00:02:42
Speaker 2: Game depthsit, it would be pretty pretty gross. Yeah, I mean, it was huge to win the opener last night, and I mean, in some ways it felt like the season maybe hung in the balance, And maybe that's a little hyperbole to say, but overall, I'm not sure. I mean, it was a huge game for a variety of reasons. Obviously, when you only have six baseball games left in the season and the race is as close as it is, every single game counts. It also gave the Braves a at least in the moment, a six' five tiebreaker, edge which is the regular season record between two. Clubs so should this come down to a, tie and frankly it may come down to a. Tie The braves would have the tiebreaker in that, situation assuming there's not two games to be played On monday and we're GONNA i, mean we could literally talk for probably two hours about all of the contingencies and just chaos that could come in the next ninety six plus. Hours but to answer your, question it was a massive win for The. Braves they played really well in all three. Phases defense was, awesome the pitching From schwellenbach in particular was. Awesome The bats had a couple of big. Hits it was very much an enjoyable game and thank god The braves found a way to Win game, one otherwise it would have been with the rain added on a very very painful couple of.

00:04:04
Speaker 1: Days, yeah there won't be as many nuts and bolts discussions on this podcast as we often, would but you're, RIGHT i, mean schwallamlock was. Awesome we we discussed on The crossover. Show Michael harris had arguably his biggest game of the. Season he was.

00:04:17
Speaker 2: Fantastic oh, yeah all that was. All that was.

00:04:19
Speaker 1: Good so we'll leave it there and just say The bridges are now one back of The mets with five games to, play and as we are recording, this skinta recording this kind of early to mid evening On wednesday before The diamondbacks, play because there it's a nine to forty. GAME i was not gonna Ask gott to record this at one. Am apologies to everybody that wanted us to wait that. Long, Probably but if The diamonbacks lose, tonight which is, possible they are favored in the game according to the betting, market but if they were to, lose the brains would be tied with The. Divabacks all of a, sudden like it is escalated, quickly they have suddenly started to, lose which is nice For. Atlanta people will will know how that game went as they're listening to this podcast On. Thursday BUT i say all that to Say, Wednesday, Thursday i've been. Postponed now there's a doubleheader On monday scheduled now for The braves and The.

00:05:06
Speaker 2: Mets then we'll talk about from a baseball standpoint in a.

00:05:09
Speaker 1: Second, first, Though, scott let's be brief on this BECAUSE i think both you AND i agree with this is not like the biggest deal in the, world and it's much more about like what happens now than how we kind of got. Here but there's basically WHAT i described On twitter as a war of leaks basically between The brave side and The mets side as to whose fault this is and who's in the wrong and how we got here in baseball and The fisher's office And waltelishers will know That i'm not the biggest fan The commissioner's, office so all, That, like do you have a thought about like anything like, this because, like, look both sides seem to agree cording to the reporting that they were hoping to get at least the game in. TODAY i think pretty much everyone Knew thursday was going to be. Dicey they were hoping to get today's game in that didn't. Happen and as soon as that was pretty clear that it wasn't going to, happen the finger pointing. Began and it's like he, said she, said and yeah it actually matter, Right, Scott like WHAT i, mean it's definitely a.

00:05:58
Speaker 2: Story it's.

00:05:58
Speaker 1: INTERESTING i get, that but like for, us we care about the baseball and ALL i care about now is like what the schedule is going to?

00:06:04
Speaker 2: Be, yeah me, TOO i, mean you, KNOW i Read Joel sherman Of The New York, post who is like both A mets reporter and A yankees reporter but also a national. Reporter yeah you, KNOW i, mean he basically handed his notebook to a couple Of mets sources and, said have, added, fellas let's let's tear down The. Braves The braves fought back a little, BIT i think Through Mark, bowman who sent out a tweet that maybe The mets were not as compliant earlier in the. SEASON i didn't actually realize That thursday's game was a makeup of a rainout FROM i Believe april Or.

00:06:40
Speaker 1: May it Was, April and that was the one that kind of surprised a lot of people, because LIKE, i, WEIRDLY i actually knew that only by. ACCIDENT i was looking at a schedule thing and saw it on one of THOSE espn you, know it often will note it kind of small on the corner of the box score preview kind of thing that, says, hey make up from this.

00:06:55
Speaker 2: Date SO i was, like, oh AND i had forgotten about.

00:06:57
Speaker 1: That but you're. Right that's the one thing THAT i think people didn't really realize is that The mets had refused to come To atlanta earlier in the year on a one, off, like for, instance a couple of weeks ago now maybe week and half ago now That red's game that was a complete one. Off it was very strange those things. Happened The mets could have done, that they chose not. To it's supposed to be a two game series and it became a three game, series Which i'm glad WHY i should, Say i'm GLAD i understand why The braves would naked back and just be, like, hey by the, way remind them of, this because it's not only us that's in because you, know the games In, atlanta the focus is obviously going to be On atlanta when the game is In. Atlanta we all kind of understand. That but that was a non that was a non trivial. INCLUSION i would, say.

00:07:35
Speaker 2: Yeah AND i, mean let's be, honest there's probably no love lost between these two. Organizations oh, no many over the, years over the. Decades, YEAH i, mean, okay in a perfect, world well a perfect, world it would have been seventy degrees and not a cloud in the sky for all three of these, games and The braves would have swept and we'd be popping the champagne because they made the playoffs that didn't. Happen and you can't control the, weather you can't control the. Rain AND i, know seemingly all of the talk for the last twelve hours as, well why didn't The braves move the? Game why didn't they relocate the series to one of the? Domes all of those. Things there are so many layers to rescheduling and moving a baseball game like, that a Major league baseball, Game AND i, Tweeted it's not like you move a high school football game On friday night because one of the fields got vandalized and you just call up the athletic director down the street and, say, hey let's use your. Field there's so much that goes into, this and you, know from everything from money to, logistics to, travel to support staff and. Security this is hardly a let's figure it out in five minute. Situation and of course The braves are going to be made out to look like the bad guys because they're the ones hosting the. SERIES i would be inclined to ask if if these three games were In New york and a hurricane was, coming would The mets have foregone fifteen million dollars in gate. Revenue would they have moved the series To philadelphia just for? KICKS i, mean come, on it's it was very. MUCH i, mean it kind of felt like high school bickering to, me the way that maybe the teams were using the media to kind of point.

00:09:20
Speaker 1: Fingers it's definitely leak warn. Again we won't go blow for blow on this. Thing could they have Played? Monday, YES i understand that's. Possibly you, know that's one of the things that actually seems plausible to. Me they could have come together On saturday Or sunday and, say, hey, guys how about we play On. Monday the mess did Place sunday, night which added a wrinkle that people were kind of overlooking that.

00:09:39
Speaker 2: Scenario nobody From New york mentioned that it wouldn't The mets would have played a game after landing In atlanta at like four. Am so magically that was not part of the you, know the takedown of The. Braves it was not, mentioned et.

00:09:53
Speaker 1: Cetera and one thing THAT i do want to say we're gonna move on to promise is uh one thing that people are ignoring to and you, know To Joel sherman's, credit who's a respective, reporter we should say he did acknowledge. This The commissioner's office could have overruled everything. Here they had the power to move to unilaterally say, hey, guys get it, together we're moving the game to this state or. Whatever they had power and they didn't exercise. It SO i am not above taking shots at The commission's. Office they are very bad sometimes at like foresight and being proactive and instead of. Reactive that is all, fair and, LOOK i will say The braves are. Blameless i'm not gonna come on here and be, LIKE i know The braves acted. PERFECTLY i don't know number, one what happened behind the. Scenes we don't know. That BUT i do know that The commission's office could have could have overruled The, braves even if the brains were being finicky or. Whatever manfrey could have been, like you know, what, guys we're Playing, monday or we're playing at ten am On. Wednesday that was one of the ones THAT i, hated, honestly was like one of the play at nine am this. Morning i'm, like, well because they don't play basebat nine.

00:10:50
Speaker 2: Am that's. Why, Yeah i'm, sorry.

00:10:52
Speaker 1: Guys, anyway what we can Stop, scott you have anything else to add before we actually talk about?

00:10:55
Speaker 2: Baseball, NO i MEAN i was. IT i was actually laughing and a kind of the finger pointing. Started it's, like, okay here we. Go it's like a bad breakup where everybody has an opinion all of a, Sudden, yeah it sucks. AGAIN i wish it was seventy degrees and we were Watching Chris sale mow down The mets right. Now instead we're talking about a very very up in the air next week. Ahead but can't control the weather no matter how much you want to shout at the rain, clouds they are going to rain no matter. What that's.

00:11:25
Speaker 1: Right so our overhooking take is it sucks and the leak war is just. Theater it doesn't actually, matter and we'll get into some baseball stuff in a second before we do. That though it worked from our friends at Foul, territory we're.

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00:12:39
Speaker 1: Active, Okay, scott let's talk about some. Baseball we mentioned, it but the doubleheader is now scheduled From. Monday it is a traditional, doubleheader it's the back to. Back, basically both games are if. Necessary at this point in, time no one has said that explicitly from The commission's, office like right now it seems Like commisier's office has the authority to just, say don't play these. Games they have not said that they're not going to play them if they're, Irrelevant but we'll come back to. That it's an early. Start it's a one to ten start for game, one followed by forty minutes after for game. Two and going back to That Joel sherman, piece he REPORTED i think On, twitter even if The diamondbacks are, eliminated which would which would be, hard but it could happen if they were eliminated By monday and The braves And mets have not settled their seating, yet it will be at the commissioner's discretion whether to Play, monday explicitly for. Seeding, basically there is a scenario where The diamondbacks just flop the rest of the. Week you, know they have they have four more, games four more, games and if they go on four, plausible not, likely but, plausible then maybe this is all. Moot and then we have this separate argument, Essentially braves And, Mets, okay do we play these games or? Not and maybe that comes down to whether The braves And mets are.

00:13:59
Speaker 2: Tied those. THINGS i don't, know what.

00:14:01
Speaker 1: Do you think about this whole thing is we're gonna purposely not go through every single hypothetical because a lot's gonna be shaken out by how these teams play over the. Weekend and we will prove you The royal series later. On but it's the commissioner's discretion WHICH i find to be intriguing because And i'll tee you up with, This while This monday scenario is really bad for The braves and The, mets it's not bad FOR. Mlb they're probably actually quietly excited about.

00:14:29
Speaker 2: THIS i have to, say, yeah, yeah, MAN i, mean chaos is the right word for all of. This and you're, right we don't. KNOW i, mean what are The braves going to do against The? Royals what are The mets gonna do this weekend against The? Brewers what are The diamondbacks who have just lost three in a, row AND i mean they just got boat raced by The giants last, Night and we'll see what they do this. Evening and then you, know The diamondbacks this weekend have to play The, padres who kind of quietly are like very much alive in The National League. West like it's probably not, likely BUT i, mean there's a world where The padres could overtake The dodgers and all of a, sudden The dodgers are a wild card, team which would be. Crazy so there is so much uncertainty at this. POINT i, think really all we know is That philadelphia is locked into one of the top two seeds and basically nothing else is decided other Than San, Diego la And milwaukee are all guaranteed playoff. Spots but for these final two wild card spots and the balance of The National League, west we just don't. Know and it's going to be very day by. DAY i tweeted out like a mini rooting guide for The braves the next couple of. Days we are obviously rooting against The, mets and we're rooting against The. Diamondbacks But, brad there might also be a scenario where The, braves and this would be a far fetch, scenario but there might be a scenario where The braves are actually rooting for The mets On, sunday depending on what The. Diamondbacks it is going to be, chaos AND i, mean it sucks that we're even at this point with all the, weather but it's also kind of fun at least. ME i was like nerding out looking at the schedules and kind of the the situations and what means what it is going to be a crazy weekend For Major League baseball and maybe even Into.

00:16:19
Speaker 1: Monday, yeah you, know one of the questions is whether The braves and especially The mets will like act rationally like because you, know if it gets if it comes down to, it would it be worth it to either team to play On monday if they're both in the playoffs and they're only playing proceeding like it seems to be very obviously. Not but you, know maybe there's maybe there's some algorithm somewhere that decides that it's not that it is worth, it et. Cetera but you're, RIGHT i think, that you, know everyone's rooting against The. Diamondbacks it was funny we had this moment on The crossover podcast, yesterday The mets guys with a smile or being, Petty you're, like, wait, wait we're against the. Brace we hate the, brains we don't want to. BRACE i, understand, look all things, equal WHEN i WOULD i rather have The diamondbacks and The braves in the playoffs than The mets one hundred percent, yes Because i'm A braves.

00:17:04
Speaker 2: Person we don't like The. Mets it is what it.

00:17:06
Speaker 1: Is but at the end of the, day my personal priority would be get The braves of the. Playoffs so if that means The diamondbacks losing every day the rest of this, week signed me up for. That and you teased it a little bit. Earlier but one thing THAT i think we've done a good job of pointing this, out but just to drive it, home The braves currently have the tiebreaker against The, mets which is. Huge so if they don't play, again which is, possible The braids have the edge head to head if they. Tie The braves also have the edge over The diamondbacks in, tidebreaker which we've been talking about for a. While people were kind of ignoring it and making It braves Marks mets like a week, ago and we were, like, hey, guys don't forget about The diamondmacs and The braids have that advantage which is huge and looking even more likely that it might matter than it was. Before so that's kind of WHY i actually had somebody replied to me in A dm TODAY i kind of tweeted out The braves playoff odds by some of the sports, books some of the fangrass, projections et. Cetera and it's they're pretty. High they'll like give a sixty or seventy year, range and somebody that's, like why would that, Be i'm, like, well because they have the tiebreaker that when you get down to the last five games of the year or four games The diamondbacks, case if you have the tiebreaker edge on both, teams that's like a ten percent, bump if not, more because there are lots of scenarios where you tie these. Teams of, course now it's like really convoluted and basically you have to throw any projected system Because monday's game is like a total breaker of all. Math but, uh it's not of small. Things scott AND i feel like we have to like just keep saying it over and over. Again The Brave mets thing is even. Weirder but even The diamondbacks, like, hey that's that one's side field. Delivered if they, tie they tie and Go. Braves, yeah you know it's again chaos is the.

00:18:39
Speaker 2: Word and there's a scenario where The braves And mets have to play On, monday but only because one of those teams needs, it, right there's a world where The braves could be clenched or The mets could be, clenched depending on how the weekend. Goes so there's a. Scenario let's say The mets clench and The braves need to win game one of the, doubleheader and then if they, win they're in the postseason because they have the tiebreaker Over. Arizona The mets could play that game but have literally nothing to play for at that, point and right and throw a bullpen game and Sent Pete alonzo And lindor who has the back the back.

00:19:18
Speaker 1: Issue it could, be it could be totally. Firstical that's the THING i actually wonder if the scenario comes into, play If manfred and company will try to strong arm these teams into not making a mockery of, it because, THERE i, mean that's one. Scenario there's also another. One there's like a maybe maybe even a reverse incentive situation where one team actively does not want to, win like for seeding or, Whatever like if they decide an want to play The brewers instead of the Pod rays or.

00:19:47
Speaker 2: Whatever it's gonna.

00:19:48
Speaker 1: Be if there's a, preference not that a team's gonna throw a, game they're not gonna guys are.

00:19:52
Speaker 2: Gonna try when they.

00:19:54
Speaker 1: Play i'll be the first to say that they're not gonna actively try to, lose but if you, are let's just say The mets or The bread and this, scenario we'll use The.

00:20:00
Speaker 2: Braves what's The brave?

00:20:01
Speaker 1: Podcast and they it actually someone in the front office, decides, hey, guys it'd be better if we lose today On, monday then it would be if we. Win, yep they could go out there and not play anybody and Throw Dais Bill hernandez for three innings and do whatever they got to. Do so it's it could be as much as it could be really fun for a not for, us because, look if it Matters, monday we're going to be, angsty to be, sure but for a neutral baseball, observer it could be either incredibly awesome and entertaining On, monday or it could be a total. Farce and like that's kind of. Weird like this whole situation is very weird with that that that little wrinkle and the potential that The braves can you, know be rooting for against The mets based on what's going, on and then you get you could get to a situation where one team is trying that one's not trying as hard On. Monday it's like it's so.

00:20:51
Speaker 2: Weird, YEAH i, mean, sincerely it could be a situation where not only for the matter of, seating but just if both are in somehow with a result in game one and it means you don't have to play game, two sign me. UP i mean if if The, brave like let's hypothetically, say if The mets win game, one it means The braves are the sixth seed and The mets are the, five or vice, versa but it means they don't have to play game one sixty two all day, long, whatever like whatever we need to.

00:21:22
Speaker 1: Do just just to be clear why you're saying, That like we said it, before but the playoffs start the next. Day that is the looming factor above all of this is That number, one it might be you have to travel To San, diego but even if It's, milwaukee like that's that's not down the street and it's the next. Day SO i actually had somebody and they were not being they were just kind of following. Passively they're, like why is this such A it's because the playoff there's no time between. Games if you have to play a doubleheader and use your entire pitching staff to navigate a winner go home double header On, monday and then turn around and play On. Tuesday we'll get into a second with actually with The braves pitching staff and Specific but that's why this matters so. Much if they had a day off in, between it would suck to play, doubleheader but it would not nearly be the consternation that it is right. Now it's because they have to literally, play and there's no flexibility. There Apparently baseball as basically, said that's not moving like they're playing On. Tuesday, whoever whoever gets since playing On tuesday wherever they have to, go no. Flexibility so if they play a double, header it's, like, man is there anybody gonna be able to pitch On, tuesday like the Breath braves Or mets if they have to, play even if they win comfortably semi, Comfortably And i'm using that in inquisition. Marks let's say The braves sweep a doubleheader On monday against The. Mets we all. Celebrate they're gonna have to use every single avaiable pitcher to do, that almost, Certainly, yeah and then you go Into tuesday as an underdog against anybody because you don't have the.

00:22:49
Speaker 2: Pictures, yeah and, HEY i mean it sucks that it's the way it. Is and for, me the totem pole number, one get in the. PLAYOFFS i don't care what you have to. Do if you have to play twenty five innings On monday to get in the, playoffs you play twenty five, Innings, god let's hear. It, mentally we may not. Survive now that's number. One number two is, well number two is somehow some way not having to play at all On. Monday and really the only scenario Is arizona just completely, collapses like they probably.

00:23:22
Speaker 1: They probably have to go in four maybe maybe one and, say, okay so if The braves sweep The, royals that's a big, if, big, big big.

00:23:30
Speaker 2: If with one in three in The, diamondbacks that would be.

00:23:33
Speaker 1: Enough so like maybe that's the scenario where you don't you don't have to play On, Monday so.

00:23:37
Speaker 2: That's that's not.

00:23:39
Speaker 1: Impossible but the happened to beat The diamondbacks by two and a half games in a four day span is unlikely to say the.

00:23:46
Speaker 2: Least, yeah, yeah so make the playoffs if you don't have to play at, all On. Monday that would be the. Dream, unlikely but the. Dream and then and then it's only having to play one game On, monday and then it's having to play. Two and, again if you have to do, it you have to do. It but, again the, tiebreaker WHICH i think you made a good point a little while, ago the tiebreaker may absolutely come into play here where, sure maybe the you, know if it's a, tie or if The braves And mets are half a game up On. Arizona both of those teams own the tiebreaker Over. Arizona The braves won the series outright and The mets And diamondbacks split three to. Three but then it goes To Inner division record and The mets have the edge. There so, again it could be very. Weird IF i had to bet, Today brad very officially eight Pm eastern On, Wednesday i'm going to wager that game two is not needed On. Monday it may not necessarily be a good thing for The. Braves it might mean if they don't have a good weekend Against Kansas, city they it may not even come to, That but, Regardless i'm gonna guess that they only have to play one On, monday which is not ideal by any. Means but it's not having to go eighteen innings of kind of balls to the wall all. Out use everybody like it's a game.

00:25:06
Speaker 1: Seven all, right we should preview The World. Series we talked around. It we understand what's going on. There and It's wednesday as we're. Talking, Uh friday's. Game by the, way it looks kind of iffy with the. Weather, Look i'm tracking this stuff. RELIGIOUSLY i live. Here scott doesn't live. Here if you listen To new to the Programs Scotlands arizona where it's probably a hundred.

00:25:24
Speaker 2: DEGREES i don't. KNOW i should have asked you that. BEFORE i it's one hundred and three. Degrees, yeah one hundred and three and we haven't seen to drop a rain in.

00:25:29
Speaker 1: Weeks, yep sounds. About sounds about. Right as of, Now friday's game should. Happen The actually the biggest wrinkle, is, uh can The royals get To atlanta because they play a game On thursday and have to fly To atlanta and That's thursday's the worst day of the rain and the hurricane coming through all those. Things so provided they get To, atlanta the forecast looks. Okay and if, it even if it doesn't, happen they can get in a double header On. Saturday it looks pretty good over the. Weekend so these games should those three games should, happen The roles could clench a wildcard spot as soon As, thursday so that is potentially helpful for The. Braves they're playing The. Nationals The nationals have been a foreign on The brave side this, year but they're not as good as The. Royals theres have been stumbling a little bit down the. Stretch we should at least acknowledge. That but if they take care of, business you might have a hangover game at some. Point you might have a team, that even beyond a hangover, game is not necessarily quite as motivated as they typically would be because they won't they won't have much to play for because they're not if they get in the, wildcard their division race is over in The. Central once they get, in they're just laying up for the, playoffs which could be a, big big factor towards the Lab, yeah.

00:26:41
Speaker 2: Yeah you, know we're rooting for The royals tonight And. Thursday, obviously the faster The royals, clinch the less incentivized they are to play The braves as tough as they. CAN i believe the way The American league is set, up The royals and either The twins or The tigers are guaranteed to be the five and six. Seeds you, know we could probably have a long conversation about who you'd rather play that alas we're not A Kansas City royals. Podcast. YEAH i, mean if it means that if The royals can clinch, early it means that Maybe Bobby Witt junior doesn't. Play it means that they don't throw their you know that they reschedule their rotation and they throw a couple of bullpen games all. Things it's. FUNNY i mentioned that On twitter and a couple people, responded oh, god we know what The braves do against like the worst pitchers in the. League it's. Fair it's a fair response to have to. YOU i understand it is, Right, like get a couple of cy young winners out there and The braves will. Win but some twenty seven year old rookie From TRIPLE a comes, up he mows The braves down for eight. Innings, yeah so obviously rooting for The royals up Until. Friday let's hope the field isn't good enough shape to play On friday. Night the absolute last thing The braves want to do is then have to play a doubleheader On saturday as. Well that would be pretty disastrous, honestly just from a pitching lineup. Standpoint but we'll See Kansas city good club and let's hope they don't have a whole lot to play for this.

00:28:10
Speaker 1: Weekend, yeah so the last thing we have to talk about before we sign off here is the. Pitching so there's a lot of uncertainty, here and true to, Form Brian snicker was asked today post rain out and he would not give, specifics which is not a huge. Surprise there's been some assumptions And i'm not quite ready.

00:28:28
Speaker 2: To make this.

00:28:28
Speaker 1: ASSUMPTION i think it may be the most likely scenario they're currently lined up to be if they want, to they could throw sale On friday and freed On. Saturday that is my best. Guess that's what they've been lined up to. Do it would not stun me if they didn't do that, now because there's so much of uncertainty in play. Here but that is it makes logical sense because for once they know their best two. Pitchers you want to make, sure they actually give you a chance to pitch and have your best chance to. Win and, also if you are thinking big picture about the, playoffs then pitching earlier it means they're available earlier in the playoffs if they Get, yeah does that make sense to you as just a lead Item friday And?

00:29:06
Speaker 2: Saturday? Yeah. Yeah if you Start sale On, friday he, would if, needed would pitch game two of the Wild card. Round and if you Pitch freed On, saturday he would pitch game three of The Wildcard round again if. Needed and Then sunday is anyone's. Guests i'm guessing The braves won't make a final decision on that Until saturday.

00:29:27
Speaker 1: NIGHT i can almost guarantee, it but they will not. Tell if they, did they won't tell a soul Until saturday night Or sunday. Morning if that they might tell the guy he's, pitching of, course to, prepare but you, know just to say this out, loud they would Have, okay if you assume and again we just made the point you can't assume. This but if you do Assume Sale, Friday Freed, saturday they.

00:29:47
Speaker 2: Could do whatever they.

00:29:48
Speaker 1: Want On, sunday everyone will be ready to Go schwellenbach will be on full. Rest more will be on extra. Rest you could go with a bullpen. Game you could do all kinds of things you can, maybe you, know we're not on A lopez is supposed to, come can be eligible to pitch as soon As. Friday he hasn't pitched in a, while but you, know he throw a bullpen this. Week he's another arm and it's been great this. Year so they could throw the kitchen sink at.

00:30:08
Speaker 2: It they have.

00:30:09
Speaker 1: To a lot of it will come down to what the game, Means like it's going to mean something On. Sunday but if it's, like, okay if we can make sure we don't have to play, tomorrow then it becomes more of an all hands on.

00:30:21
Speaker 2: Deck, yeah you know WHAT i.

00:30:22
Speaker 1: Mean it's it's really there's some game theory in, there and we just don't know how to pre doe that right. Now but the big thing is they can do whatever they. Want everybody is available to. Pitch the only thing right, now basically that can't happen Is schwollenmock On. Friday everything else is in play Because swalloock just. Pitched but even if they wanted, to this will kill everyone but if they wanted to pitch more than On, friday they.

00:30:44
Speaker 2: Could he'll be on full, rest you know WHAT i, Mean like.

00:30:46
Speaker 1: If they wanted, TO i don't know why they would do that, candidly even as A charlie, guy but they.

00:30:49
Speaker 2: Could, YEAH i MEAN i would be especially because of the postseason implications should they get. There the idea of not Having sale in the wild card. Round voluntar haarily is nuts.

00:31:01
Speaker 1: Saying, no we agreed to the, record we. Agree i'm just, saying like out, there, Yeah. Shwalla buck's the only guy that physically can't pitch on front and that includes right all though if they think we're always, ready it could activate them On. Friday can pittch A friday they want? To and you gotta be ready For monday, too like we all know. This but in theory they're, playing or at least they gotta be prepared to play five games in four. Days and you have five. Starters if we're allays, back you have your five stars that you. Trust if we're on is not back in full, Force Grant holmes presumably going to be the fifth starter or bullpen game of some sort With Grant.

00:31:35
Speaker 2: Holmes but if you need all five. Games you do have five.

00:31:39
Speaker 1: Starters the question would then become what the heck outs On, Tuesday but that's A tuesday. Problem, yeah this is very Much let's have the same Conversation.

00:31:47
Speaker 2: Saturday, night when if The braves are still, alive we're probably gonna do a. Podcast, yeah, yeah well we'll. SEE i, mean it's it's basically impossible to know right. NOW i think we're in agreement that we both shocked if it's not Sale friday and Freed saturday for many many. Reasons and then you just truly look at the standings and see If arizona goes three and oh between now and, then it's a different. Conversation If arizona goes oh and three between now and, then it's probably a different. Conversation same with The. Mets we don't know how The braves are gonna. Perform it is very much up in the, air but we do have a pretty good inkling that no matter What Brian steker did not say, today we know what they're gonna do On friday And, saturday assuming the weather holds. Up we think.

00:32:31
Speaker 1: So just not to put my cobosh, here but there is a scenario where you know By saturday that you're gonna have to sweep The mets On monday to get true. Yep and if you know, that you almost Punt sunday like you don't punt in. Full but there's a there is a scenario in play Where sunday is less relevant Than monday and you have to just kind of like prepare to win both games On, monday and that will suck for everybody because the chances of matter are not. Great like you, know anytime you go for a, doubleheader sweeping is not the most likely. Outcome usually the split is most likely outcome all these. Things but there is a way where if it goes badly On friday And, saturday you might turn around and be, like, guys we have to Sweep, monday and we got to prepare to sweep On, monday which means you might hold somebody back like you're pitching swelly On, monday et, cetera et. Cetera so, yeah all factors in, play.

00:33:22
Speaker 2: We will, SEE i mean there. Will we could probably go a little crazy if you whipped out like An excel sheet.

00:33:27
Speaker 1: Trying we already are right, NOW i think on the, podcast we're already going to thirty five minutes.

00:33:32
Speaker 2: In but we we are rooting against The, diamondbacks we are rooting against The, mets and whatever else has to happen between now and, then so be. It but let's hope for a season it's almost fitting bread then in a season where like everything has gone wrong for the most part that now there's a hurricane and it just wiped out two of the final five games of the. Season just another. Thing it will make an incredible book when The braves somehow when The World series in a month and a. Half but, no in all, seriousness just another thing to. Overcome and and we'll see what the weekend, brings and probably what at least one game On monday will.

00:34:10
Speaker 1: Bring, yeah that's. Right in the, meantime Go royals Until, friday and then put the kibosh on The, mets put the coy basch on The, diamondbacks and we will see what happens in. Between all, Right, scott that's probably a podcast on A wednesday evening with without a baseball game to. Discuss as you teased, EARLIER i don't know if we're going to commit to do a show every night over the, weekend but we're gonna have content this, Weekend so please stay, tuned please subscribe to the podcast if you have not done it, Already we're Gonna we're gonna be here at some Point friday, Night saturday, Night sunday, Night monday. Night If i'll promise you. This if there are Games, monday we will obviously have a recap of, that And saturday Or sunday we're gonna have to record if not. Both so just stay tuned and. Subscribe it's how you get the. Podcast anything else to plug, though on the way out scot nothing to.

00:34:57
Speaker 2: Plug it should be both a very fun and also like agonizing. Weekend let's hope the royals take care of business the next few nights and make life a little easier on the. Braves god knows they could take all the help they can. Get let's hope our friends In milwaukee And San diego at least our friends for the next couple of. Days they might become our enemies like a week from, now but at least our friends today In milwaukee And San. Diego do us as solid as well this? Weekend but, yeah a lot of. Craziness one of the wildest scenarios in the many years of watching and talking About Atlanta Braves. Baseball here they are and again it just feels fitting in a season where so much stuff has, happened more bad than. Good but, hey here they are four, days five games left in the. Season they have a chance to make the. Playoffs, yeah good place to end the.

00:35:46
Speaker 1: Podcast on that, Note please go ahead and Follow scott On twitter At scott pulling fifty five for all of his live musings On Bravest. Baseball follow me there as well if you'd like, to at bet, roll and follow the show On twitter And instagram And facebook At Hammer. Territory and, please please please. Subscribe i'm sure we have some folks that have not been dialed in this whole time because we're getting to that part of the schedule where more attention is being. Paid so if you've made it to the end of the, podcast first of, all thank you for. Listening second them, all please. Subscribe like the video on, YouTube tell your friends about the. Podcast we'll be here with much more of the. Weekend hold your, breath we'll all try to get there together and we'll see you all next.

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