Club 520 - Jeff Teague & Shams Charania on LeBron to Warriors, Derrick Rose Bulls, Wembanyama

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Are you up man? 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:27.600 Long weekend? Asty, We had a good time this weekend. 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:28.319 Yeah. 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:33.360 I appreciate y'all and I'm here, thank God for another 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:34.360 day above ground. 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:38.560 That's like the people who said green and rods and text. 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:40.200 That's what you just gave us on the podcast. 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:45.000 Amen. To my right, my dog young, not your young tig. 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:46.720 How you are man, I'm good man. 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.680 Another special guest, another legend in the building, a legend. 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:53.360 And every time I look at my phone, I get 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:56.240 an alert back when I was playing ice to be 0:01:56.240 --> 0:02:00.440 scared as hell. Now man, it's all good to man. 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.560 So I'm so happy to have my guy in the building. 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:04.680 I let you do the introduction or for the show. Look, 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:06.760 if you watch basketball, if you watch sports, you know 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:08.120 who this man is. You know what I'm saying, he 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:11.280 says the timeline of Blaze, good and bad. He's always 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:16.680 got the information we need man, none other the legendary 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:20.400 NBA inside Sean, I appreciate you putting the five twenty 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:20.919 big dogs. 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.720 Appreciate you guys. Appreciate you guys have me Jeff. 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.839 It's all love, It's all love. Appreciate appreciate you guys 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.280 having me on. You know, I covered Jeff as a player, 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.919 cover his teams. So to see him on the other 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.480 side now doing his thing with the podcast, I know 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:37.680 he's come on my show fand and running back as well. 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.520 I think I think Jeff's just got a long, you know, 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:41.440 long track here. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:43.520 Man. Appreciate that that second act. 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:46.560 So so how is it crazy for you to him 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:48.760 to have interviews with you and barely talking. You see 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.680 him on the podcast, You mad you didn't get that content? 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.480 I mean, I mean, Jeff saved himself for when it 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:57.280 mattered most, and that's the second half, the second act 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:57.919 of his career. 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.680 So I think I think he played it's smart. 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:03.639 He left a lot of people, He left a lot 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:05.920 of people hanging on every word now because they didn't 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:09.240 know any of these stories before. So now he's letting them, 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.400 letting them go. And you know, I've worked with a 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.280 lot of former players, right, Chandler Parsons, Lou Williams, they 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:19.280 do my Fanto TV show. Now, yeah, our show is great, 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.440 and then Jeff's come on, We've it's Carter on different times. 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:24.480 I've done something of the Mind Shepherd a bunch of guys, 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.119 but it was crazy, is they're all so different, they're 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:29.920 all so unique, and they all have these different experiences 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.280 that they can speak to. And I think Jeff is 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.160 obviously one of the one of the ones, one of 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.560 the main guys I think now that's able to speak 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:40.440 eloquently and bring up like past experiences and then tie 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.119 it into into what's going on now. 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:44.240 I think that's one thing that people say a lot 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.320 about it to me, podcasts meet podcasts, but a lot 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.680 of things our community appreciates is the NBA podcast because 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.400 we get to see a lot of background stories to 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:54.440 a lot of different stuff, like you like, I think 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.000 I know this, I thought I'll know this, and you 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.120 can hear somebody talk about it, and they make you 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.360 respect a performance or a situation reaction so much better. 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.960 So Jeff, my things, when did you did, you know 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:08.200 late in your career, like once I'm done playing, I know, 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.760 I know, I got a bunch of stories in the can. 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.240 Right, Nah, I always told these stories. This was like 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.040 me every day, but this is just your boys. Yeah, 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.400 we just we always talk like this. And one day 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.760 we was doing a podcast. They did a podcast before me. 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:26.599 I forgot what it was called. Was that's an opinion? 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.880 But they had a podcast before and I came on 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.240 that show and basically it was like, just tell us 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.360 some stories, like what's the league like? And I was like, dang, 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.479 that kind of work, and I wanted to be a 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:41.000 part of their team. 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.080 Beautiful ship. 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:50.440 You still way facts but obviously, man, we know what 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:51.920 you do now, But how did you get started? 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.960 So, you know, growing up, I love the NBA like 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.119 I love playing basketball, Like in my in my mind 0:04:58.160 --> 0:04:59.680 and my dream, I would have loved to be where 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.120 Jeff is that right, playing basketball, playing the NBA. 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:04.120 But obviously that's there's very. 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:08.560 That's a very very scarce job position league. I mean, 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.080 you guys are four hundred of the best, four hundred 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.040 and fifty of the best to do it. 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:15.880 It's such a scarce company. If you want to call 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:16.200 it that. 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.560 So once I got cut early in high school sophomore year, 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.559 I'm like, I'm not playing. I'm not playing on my team. 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:24.279 I gotta figure out what I'm gonna do. And I 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.040 remember my English teacher that year told me, you should write. 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.720 For the school newspaper. You're you're a good writer. 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.520 You have you have passion with basketball. So I just 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:34.000 combined both my passions. I started writing a lot, wrote 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.640 for the school newspaper. From that, I was writing a 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.159 bulls blog because I grew up in Chicago, So I 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:43.240 did a bulls blog and from there went to real GM. 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.280 I want to say junior senior year of high school. 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:47.680 This is all in high school, so sophomore year of 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:51.159 high school. Then then around junior senior year, I started 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:54.240 REALGM dot com. Where to me, like that was the pinnacle, 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.080 Like Real GM and Hoopside. I would always be refreshing, 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:00.640 like I was obsessed with, like news and behind the 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.200 scene and stuff like I was. I would always wonder like, 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.719 are the bulls gonna get? Are we gonna get like Jeff? 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:07.000 You know we're gonna trade for Jeff? 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:07.480 What are we doing? 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.000 I remember one year at the trade deadline, they were 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:11.880 rumored the Bulls to maybe get like TJ. 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:12.360 Ford. 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.679 So I was like refreshing hoops ype in Real GM, 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:15.920 like are we gonna get TJ? 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:17.760 Four? We gonna get TJ. Ford? I don't think we 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:20.680 got TJ. Ford. But point being, I was up, That's 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:21.039 what was. 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:22.480 I was obsessed with that, And if a team was 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.680 doing bad, I'm like, why is this team struggling? For 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:26.880 team's doing really well or players doing really well. I 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.720 was always inquisitive. I wanted to know why guys are 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.760 playing well, why teams aren't playing well. So I think, 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:35.320 like now I think about who I'm catering to the fan. 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:37.280 I feel like I was that fan growing up, Like 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.680 I was that obsessed person. Like if I wasn't doing 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:41.480 what I'm doing now, I would still be obsessed with 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:43.520 all this stuff anyway. So now I'm just in a 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.520 position where I can actually get try to get to 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.119 the news first and you know, quench my own thirst 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.920 while also you know, help you know, serving the fans 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.560 in the audience. Say that's a long story short after 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.520 Real GM, yeahoo's sports for three years and I'm at 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.400 the athletic stadium, vandal TV everywhere. 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.880 You know, what's crazy. Real mus know about REALGM dot com. 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:08.400 If you need any information. I'm solving every basketball argument. 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:13.120 I'm not talking. I we pulling it up again right too. 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:15.240 It ain't no back and forth about it now. Like 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:16.920 you said you had a crazy journey. But I asked, 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:18.400 you know what I'm saying. You do this for a living. 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:21.360 What's the one story to one drop? He was like, Damn, 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.320 I wish I got this ten minutes earlier, or damn 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:24.600 I got this two minutes earlier. 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.480 I feel like that that happens like every year. 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.960 Like I could have pointed to two, I have two 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.040 three at the deadline, you know, at the deadline here, like, 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:35.080 but it's always about when you feel one hundred percent comfortable, 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:36.800 like that's the that's the fine line. 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:38.400 That's that that you know. 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.760 I feel like I'm towing every day, right, Like you 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.360 get so many different things thrown at you, Like around 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:47.920 trade deadline week, I probably had five hundred different scenarios 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:49.480 that I was thinking in my mind or I had 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.200 written down to my notepad. And how many of those 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.960 actually happened? I mean, Jeff knows, I mean, Jeff player, 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:56.720 you played in the league, Like when you're on a 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:58.360 team so many different things. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:07:59.760 It's all fluid day to day. 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.400 And and that's why when I was a fan growing up, 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:05.120 when I was when I was growing up, I would 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.920 hear players say, Man, I'm taking it one day at 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:08.280 a time. 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:10.720 Oh, I'm just you know, I'm just worried about about today. 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:11.400 That's it. 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:13.920 And I'm like, man, that's that's so. 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:14.880 That's a BS. 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.119 But then now you see the league, you're around the league, 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.760 and you're even in this field in general, you're working 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:22.360 in general, you could be doing whatever you're doing. 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.480 You could be a you know, my mom's a nurse. 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:25.560 Shout out to my mom. 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:27.760 She's a nurse. She's taking day to day. 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:29.720 You know, we're all day to day as far as 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.880 our mentality, things can change at any given moment. 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:35.240 It's everything is always, you know, fluid for sure. 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.920 He said, you grew up in Chicago, So I imagine 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:43.400 you watched Derrick Rose like MVP. Year you worked for 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:48.120 you did the no content for the Bulls. Basically, what 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:49.880 was that year like seeing d Rose? 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:55.600 So that was twenty ten eleven, that was my junior 0:08:55.679 --> 0:09:00.880 year of high school. I mean it was it was insane. 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:02.600 I mean, I know you've played against him. 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:04.760 Did you play with him too? 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.000 I played with him the mini but in Chicago at 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.360 that moment, like when you used to go around Chicago, he. 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.720 Was he was, he was, he was that dude. 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:14.600 And the crazy part is, you know, getting to know 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.120 him just a little bit and interview. 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:16.600 Him a few times. 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.440 He's he's always stayed true to like who he is 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.320 as a person, Like he's never won, Like he never 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.120 was someone that was trying to push himself out there 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.560 for attention and try to be for the lights. Like 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.960 I think. I think he always stayed true to the game. 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.520 And then that year in general, I mean. 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:34.719 That team, the way he carried them on a ninth 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:35.559 to night basis. 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:39.000 I know people can debate like statistically, you know, I 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:40.839 see it now people are like leb he stole that 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.679 me before, like Lebron one I VP, but like if 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:44.400 you if you get. 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.719 The number one seed out of nowhere the way he. 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.320 Did it, and he was carrying that team six two 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:53.560 sixty three point guard And to me, you got to say, 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:54.880 he was the most athletic guy. 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:56.880 Oh he's him and us. 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:00.840 The most athletic guys at that position ever ever. 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:05.320 And he dominated, He was dominant. He was dominating his vision. 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:06.160 I think. 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:11.360 You got to put him up there too. I want 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.280 to you gotta probably have a little bit more of 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.880 a I guess we've seen it, but you know, I 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:17.839 want I want to see more of it. 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.160 I want to see in the player. Yeah, I want to. 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.080 But d Rose led that team to the conference finals. 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:27.160 Yeah, I think they took a one oh series lead, 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.360 and I think they were up in game two and 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.719 I remember, you know, throwing Up'm like, yeah they win this. 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.560 You know you're up to oh on the heat, you know. 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.400 And the whole thing was he didn't supposedly, you know, 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.840 he he wants to lead the team himself with lou All, 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:46.000 Dang Joe, knowing those guys. So I think with him, 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.640 it's it's always been about he's always stay true to himself. 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.599 In just that season, I mean, you gotta say he dominated. 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.040 He dominated. He definitely did that. 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.920 Was that was interesting when you said, man, because he 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:58.440 is up there in that list. But I think a 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:04.360 lot of people forget like how athletic Russell Westbrook was 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:06.719 and his prom was a very long time there. 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:08.199 I know, the last couple of years of light their stuff. 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.520 We kind of see rust a little bit older, but okay, 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.079 see Russ in his prime, Yeah, there was nobody as 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:14.480 physical as big as he was. 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:15.680 And he was power dunking. 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.800 Yeah yeah, he was power danking d Roses too, But 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.520 d Rose was sometimes he would dunk in positions and 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.120 like angles that you wouldn't even expect him to get to. 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.000 Russe was just brute force. 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.520 Like I put it like this, Russ was like a 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:35.040 hell cat he had straight power and d Rose like 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:38.080 a Ferrari. They both got beautiful engines. Both fast fuf 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.400 can move. But I got to put John Wall up 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:41.760 there too. 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:43.920 Bro, when you said John Waller made me think early 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:45.880 John wall He was like that. 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.920 He just went on TV enough he was he was 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:49.839 fast as hell. 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.800 You would have to say he was probably maybe was 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:54.280 he faster than all those other guys. 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:58.959 Nah, No, they like the same speed like John Walls 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:00.800 the fast player I ever played with Darren Fox. 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.600 Yeah, I can see that's crazy. I told you her 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:05.120 he retired. 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.559 He too didn't fast, but like Russells Brook, he fast 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.000 and ship but they he was so much power. But 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.480 like d Rose was that fast, but he could move 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.880 like he played against all of them in their prime. 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:20.760 Who do you who do you think was the toughest 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:25.400 toughest the guard was d Rose. Russ was just relentless, 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.320 like you'd be like, all right, man, like fuck, like 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.040 he's a dog, you know he's gonna call. But he 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:33.000 would shoot forty of them and not think one second. 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.679 Like d Rose was like, I'm gonna kill you. When 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:37.680 I need to kill you, I may I get everybody 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:41.560 else involved, and then his points like hurt. Russ was like, 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.800 I'm gonna get seventy. If I can get seventy, I'm 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:45.600 getting seventy. I don't care if KD on the wing, 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.640 I don't care here, I'll shoot this one for every time. 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:50.160 That was him. 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.400 The thing about d Rose that year too, his his 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.240 midy was on point. It was a stretch a couple 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.760 of years where his his midy was elite. 0:12:58.920 --> 0:12:59.720 And Russ too. 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:06.240 I think Russ had a yeah, crazy hard stop and 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:08.800 I think that's what separated those two guys from the pack. 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:10.400 I think those years when they have when you have 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.880 the midwan shot going like that, when you can get 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.000 to the basket as easily as those two guys could and. 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:20.360 D Rolls floater that floaters, Yeah, you think d Rose 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:24.120 floater fucking with Tony Parker's Tony Parker is the best 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:26.920 guard finisher and it'll be history. 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:28.280 He never missed. 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.959 If you go watch over reals, I don't want to 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:33.760 have you off over over Kyrie. 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:39.120 Bro go look at Tony sixty. I end up pain. 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:41.880 I just as a guard is crazy. And you know, 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.040 Kyrie is my first player of all time. I think 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:46.280 would make it different with TP is because you know 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.240 Kyrie is finishing around the rim. Tony was hitting him 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.160 like fourteen foot floaters, bro off half spins. 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.559 That's a shock. That's what I mentioned. 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:58.280 Tony Parker couldn't shoot well. I'm like he eventually grew 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:01.600 and have a jumper. Kyrie could shoot, So him getting 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:03.480 to the basket is a little easier because you gotta 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.960 respect this three ball. He got a total media all 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.400 that you're saying you bag up off Tony Parker like 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.960 he was. He's still getting to the basket making layup. 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.040 Man, do you guys remember the finals in San Antonio 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:18.120 where he had that crazy layup that like no business 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.320 you have, No one probably an NBA history can make 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:21.080 the layup that. 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:25.480 He made for sure around the paint. He never missed layups. 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:33.000 I got a question, though, what's show Since you've been 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:36.479 doing this at a high level, what's your favorite. 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:39.000 Trade so far? Favorite trade? 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.680 She was like, damn, that team really won. And I'm 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.160 a piggyback on that too. Where you where you got 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.440 to school, where you broke it? Man, that's tough. 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:53.480 It's a lot. There's a lot. There's a lot. You 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.600 could just say it random, there's a lot. I mean, 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:58.960 it's just it's just being in the middle of. 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:04.040 Like like, I'll give you an example, like when when 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:08.920 Many traded Jimmy to Philly. That was nuts and and 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:12.120 I remember I think you guys were in Sacramento. 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:13.760 Where we was at. 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.000 You guys were in sack and I believe you guys 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.920 obviously lost that game, not because of you, because. 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:27.960 It was me. 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:30.120 It definitely was. 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:37.560 The problems were way deeper than let's. But I remember, 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.720 I remember I was I'll say the story. 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.000 So, I live in the suburbs of Chicago, right, I've 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.560 never moved to the city. But I was looking at 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:49.040 an apartment in the city and we were going through 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:53.360 the tour of the apartment and I get a text 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.200 saying Jimmy is about to get traded to fill to Philadelphia. 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.880 It's it's close, and I think you guys have just 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.640 lost the night before in sack and like, you know 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:06.440 this is this would lets you know that, like you 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:08.640 could be anywhere any given moment. So I'm on this 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.800 apartment tour. I looked down on my phone and I left. 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:15.040 I left the tour like I never went back. I 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.880 never I never bought that apart just bad omen. You know, 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:19.920 you get used. I have to leave the tour. You 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:23.560 can't go back. So I remember I left that, and 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.240 then you see the whole terms and I feel like 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.040 that's all. That's also a major what if around the 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.600 around then. But you have to say, because that team 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.880 in Philly, I mean they had Ben, they had Jimmy, 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:38.960 they had they had him Embiid, Tobias, Jimmy, and then 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:42.520 later in the year they traded for Tobias. So their 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:48.640 group man coming off the bench, TJ McConnell coming off 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:55.600 the bench, off the bench. But you know, I don't 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.760 Maybe maybe it's just because I think of Jeff, you know, 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:00.560 that's the only one that comes in my mind. 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:03.080 But no, I remember we was on the plane when 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.919 it happened, and Jimmy, We're all on the plane, So 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.240 imagine imagine getting traded while you're on the plane. 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.439 But we in back to Manute. You guys wanted to 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:12.320 be back to Minnesota. 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:14.760 So we had like a three hour flight and they 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:16.560 tell you at the beginning of the flight, so we 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.640 all on the plane like. 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:19.880 You know, I'm a jerk. 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.280 So I'm like, we ain't trade for they, Like we 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.040 got Robert Covington and Dario What. 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:30.480 The fun y'all traded Jimmy for them? Like, no, disrespected Dar. 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:35.320 But I was like, y'all playing two great pros. By 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:40.240 the way, I love both of. 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:44.159 Them, Jimmy Butler. I mean, that's what we're doing. I 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:45.159 know that's your guy. 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.920 But I'm like, y'all sabotaging me. Bro, Minnesota already hate me. 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:58.480 We're best player, Bro, Like double look. I was like, 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:01.440 I'm like, yeah, y I can know what y'all traded. 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:03.600 Then for all the people we could have traded facts, 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.880 she should have got a legit star for present. 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:08.960 So that's what I think about when I think about, 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.200 like I think about where I am, you know, like 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.480 like if I have to leave a situation, if I'm 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:15.560 like on a family trip in the summer, like the 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:19.359 there have been times. I mean I'll be like my 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:22.560 family will take like a quick trip, like it's like 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.720 the Grand Canes or something in August, you know, August, August, September. 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:27.840 Usually the times when you played in legal, you try 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:31.560 to get away right before Labor Day or into Labor Day. 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:33.760 And I remember once I was at the Grand Canes 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.120 and I get a text, you know, the John Wall 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.440 he was going to sign an extension or something with Washington, 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:40.120 my major extension. 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:41.320 I mean I left. 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.480 There was like a library you know, you know, you 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:45.720 know in those mountains, they don't have any connection. You 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:49.200 have to go to the library with spotty Wi Fi connections. 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.840 I remember I left. I went to this library to 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.560 the little shuttle. Fifteen minute shuttle went there. That's that's 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:56.560 that's my dedication. 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:58.280 You know, you guys have to be in the lab. 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:01.040 I have to be in my lab. Watchoo those you 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:01.919 a little sneaky bro. 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:05.200 Yeah, you've been dropping the bombs like one a wake 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.200 up up with I would have had it. I would 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.280 have to miss that one. I got John Wall in 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.520 the morning. Man, we know he's staying on. 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:13.200 I'll give you, I'll give you a sleep one. 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.600 Uh So remember when Kawhi Lenon got traded to Toronto. 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.840 That broke it like two three in the morning. The 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.639 crazy part is it was like one thirty in the morning. 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.480 I was done on my couch. I think I woke 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.080 up like maybe wrong two and I saw my phone 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:31.040 and I you know, it. 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.840 Was about the trade and I look on Twitter. 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:37.040 It wasn't out. I was stunned. I was stunned, you know, 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:41.280 thirty minutes. Yeah, I'm like, I could have missed it. 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:43.639 I could have been you know, so you never know 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:45.200 where you are. So that's the thing that comes out 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.639 to me is like you name a trade, you know, 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:49.879 hopefully I've broken, you know, if I've been on it, 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:51.560 I usually know where I. 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:53.520 Am, you know when it happens, especially there's a good 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:54.000 story behind. 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:55.600 Now I got to ask you this question, how do 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:58.080 you feel about people complaining about and that kind of 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.080 like tapered it off this last year about the draft 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.960 announcements when there's like don't tweet before the pick actually shows. 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:08.240 I'm just like, you know, that's their job, right, Yeah, 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:09.360 I mean for sure. 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:11.960 For sure, Like if I have information, if I have 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:13.720 the ability to get the information, I'm gonna do what 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:16.320 I can also I have a live show as well 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:19.600 that I'm doing on my own that streams on Twitter 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:23.679 that you know, it's it's updating live like we like 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:27.480 on Stadium. We do live updates of you know, so 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:31.040 we're basing off whatever I'm tweeting, not really what's what's 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:33.760 on air per Se or what's going on at Barclays. 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.240 So all I can do. All I do is focus 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:39.639 on on the information I get. You know, it's like 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:42.240 we're having we're kind of the ones to tell the draft. 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:44.280 I wish I would have did that when I was 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:50.199 coming out well because I I was sweating, Like I 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:51.719 wish I would have got a tweet like yeah they 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:55.480 figure you next a lot easier for me because man, 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:57.359 I was going through it on my draft night, but 0:20:57.840 --> 0:20:59.760 I wanted to. I was gonna talk about the trade 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:01.680 that I think was the most equal trade ever. 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:04.840 It was the Tyresse Halliburton. Yeah. 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.119 Yeah, I think that was like perfect for both teams. 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:13.240 I don't think it's ever been a trade as equal. 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:15.679 I would say, like when I think about it, like 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:19.440 they both got two superstars, I would say, all star superstars. 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:25.080 Whatever Pacers needed Tyresse, and I think that might be 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:29.840 the most even trade NBA history. I man that, I agree, 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:33.520 it's definitely up there. But science the Sacramento Kings for 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:34.600 giving us Tyres Haliburton. 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:35.639 I still appreciate you all. 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:38.200 Y'all neared it to my heart forgiving us Achise win 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:40.080 guard because we did not have one. 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:41.880 Both teams won with that for sure. 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:45.280 The Kings need I think the King needed a big man, 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:47.600 so so Darren could just be the guy. I think 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:50.040 anytime you have a player's town is Tyresse, you you 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:52.160 kind of have to decide, like you are we going 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:54.400 to give the keys to Deann, We're going to give 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:57.040 the keys to Tyresse. They went all in with darn 0:21:57.320 --> 0:21:58.720 and then you get an All star big I mean 0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:01.959 Someoness's numbers this year. He probably he should have been 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:04.600 an All Star somehow some way, like you got. 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:06.720 Both of them, Fox should have been one. 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:10.720 It's second, I mean, Sacramento is that a bad market 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:12.440 where was obviously it's a small market team, but people 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:13.879 not seeing them Enough's kind of like the tight Young 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:15.840 effector where you're not watching them enough to really see 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:18.439 that these numbers are actually like them getting buckets, not 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:19.280 just numbers. 0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:22.000 I think possibly that but I mean there have been 0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:24.119 times this year where they've struggled too, like to of 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.560 course they I mean, I think record wise, they're right 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:29.480 on paces last season. I think there's you you expected 0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:31.520 them maybe to take another step. But they've also had 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:34.720 injuries Deep Fox miss a little bit of time. Yeah, 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:37.560 I think the struggles helped as far as that. But 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:40.040 I mean, someone's numbers are nuts and Dan I know 0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:42.240 Daran's gone through a little bit of h struggle as 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.040 well the last fifteen games. I'm not worried about him 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:46.160 come playoff time when we saw him last year, who 0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:48.800 forms a fractured finger or whatever. 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:51.840 Like he's he's a he's a beast. But no, I 0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:52.600 mean Sacramento. 0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:55.119 I went there actually for Game one against the Warriors, 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:58.199 their first playoff game, and whatever seventeen years that place 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:01.879 that might have been in the best environment of a 0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:06.119 non finals game I've ever been to, damn as far 0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:09.159 as how rowdy that crowd was, how much anticipation there was, 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:12.600 how hype, how hype everyone was going in and there 0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:16.600 they Arena's beautiful. So I think Sacramento's building. Do they 0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:17.600 need a third piece though? 0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:22.320 Yes? Who? Though? Who would you see in Sacramento. 0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:24.960 They went after Pascal si out, they went after O. 0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:26.359 They missed on both. 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:28.560 Do you try to go get Kyle Kuzman in the summer, 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:29.480 who would you? 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:33.160 I don't think Kyle put them over the hip because 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:36.600 I think Keegan Murray developed to be as a suitor 0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:38.840 as would be for that team. 0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:42.600 Is nice and he's like, he looks like he's soft spoken, 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:45.360 like you gotta sometimes the coach might have to push 0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:46.160 him a little bit too. 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:50.720 I don't know what they need. Uh, they could use 0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:52.919 a wing, but you got to get rid of a 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:53.640 couple of pieces. 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:55.680 Well you get what Harrison's coming off the books soon, 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:57.359 He's got two years after this. 0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:01.120 Sorry, yeah, they make get rid of him. I'm trying 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.480 to think who they could get. That's the That's the 0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:05.880 one position that's even for the Pacers. It's that one 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:09.520 that that elite three is the final piece in every 0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:11.680 real like big three situation in the league because you 0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:13.800 got a lot of elite point guards. If you're lucky 0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:15.880 to have a good bit, you gotta have that elite 0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:16.800 win to compete. 0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:19.960 I used to want them to have Zach Lavigne, but 0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:25.880 I just don't think Zach. I don't know Zach. Zach 0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:27.320 needs to get you know, healthy. 0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:31.639 That's hopefully hope they can get healthy the next season. 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:34.040 Next season obviously got to be a bounce back here 0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:39.200 and Lonzo, you know, making making progress. I think I 0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:43.080 think Lonzo Ball is very much hoping and aiming to 0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:45.760 come back next he does. 0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:47.800 Man, that's one of the few guys like we love 0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:50.199 like he's one of the eras that we saw, like Lamella, 0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:51.680 like Lonzo was always cold. 0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:53.119 He went through some screwiny with the likers, you know 0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:53.640 how that goes. 0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:55.480 But he's one of the people like we want to 0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:57.320 see Lonzo because he played the right way. 0:24:57.400 --> 0:24:57.880 He's cool. 0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:00.359 I got something. I'll say something some new. I mean, 0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:03.159 he's back on the court. He's that's what's not to 0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:05.280 you know. It takes a while to really but he's 0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:08.240 doing some spot shooting, a little bit of light like jogging, 0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:11.040 light walking, like light running. But that's not stuff that 0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.919 he was clear to do, ready to do. On his 0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:17.840 last couple starting to stop, he would get going and 0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:18.920 then he would get pain again. 0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:20.040 But now he's able to at. 0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:22.280 Least get to the point where he's on the court. 0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:24.160 You're doing a little bit of jog and a little 0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:26.960 bit of moving around, and he wasn't there a year ago. 0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:27.439 He couldn't. 0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:29.960 He couldn't physically, So now he's back to that point. 0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:31.960 He was going to take off like Brandon Ingram. I 0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:33.960 think if he didn't have those injuries. 0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:37.679 Yeah, what about like Chicago? Speaking of the Bulls, what 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:39.080 do you think they do it tomorrow? You think they're 0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:39.959 going to extend him? 0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:43.760 That's I think they've discussed an extension. And I think 0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:48.040 now the thing with the Bulls is is being competitive 0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:51.280 is important to that organization, to that franchise. And you 0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:54.520 have to say since since you know, the since they 0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:57.760 went on all in with Kobe White, since Zach Lavine's 0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:02.119 been hurt, I mean I think they're said six seven 0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:05.040 games over five hundred, like, they've played better. And the 0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:07.720 thing last season, some of these games they weren't even in, 0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:11.159 they were blown out. Now they're they're competing on a 0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:13.720 night to night basis, and you have to give Damar 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:15.280 a lot of credit for that, which a lot of 0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:15.800 credit for that. 0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:17.879 And Kobe White. I mean, I don't know who's your 0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:18.800 guys most improved. 0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:22.560 Definitely White, Obby White. That's not a bad call. 0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:28.280 I'm like Brow went for twelve to twenty starter playing 0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:28.560 well and. 0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.080 It's come out of and it was like once Zach 0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:33.960 got hurt, you saw his his numbers win Scott. 0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:35.920 You know, it's crazy because like you said, he had 0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:38.159 a shaky moment in the beginning of the season, he 0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:40.679 got the opportunity and just really been going crazy. 0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:42.520 That chemistry is really hot too, you can tell. 0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:47.399 And I think that's what makes what makes people think like, 0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:49.879 like you know, but again, Chicago fans, I'm sure like 0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.119 blow it up, blow it up. But it's like, if 0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.920 you're not going to get real offers for demor grows, 0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:57.080 you know, real offers, you can probably trade damorrow. But 0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:58.760 like what do you like you said with the with 0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:01.159 the other trade, that's like, what are you trading at 0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:04.199 DeMar DRO's in four? Is that going to keep you competitive? 0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.080 Is that going to keep you in it so you 0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:08.760 can at least compete for at a high level. And 0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.199 no one was really giving up good draft picks for that. 0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:12.720 It's going to be a free agent the summer. So 0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:15.480 my sense is they're gonna go into the offseason. We'll 0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:17.320 see what happens the rest of the year, but I 0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:18.919 think they're gonna want to see. 0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.320 What they can get done with Tomorrow's long term desires 0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.200 to be on a contender or a team contender for sure. 0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:26.439 What you've been in the league a little bit. Facts. 0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:28.359 I don't know where I want to see him play. 0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:32.160 I don't want to be in with the Lakers. No, 0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:32.760 I don't want. 0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.320 To go to the Lakers team like Miami. 0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:39.280 It'ld be fired with my perfect Yeah, that's perfect. They 0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:41.040 won't shoot No. 0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:40.359 Three. 0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:46.920 That's kind of hard though, because do you I don't know, y'all, 0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.640 because what about Tyler Hero too, He's gonna play. 0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.120 But Tyler Hero one of those guys he's playing well, 0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:53.040 actually being. 0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:58.320 But you think all three of them will come mess? Yeah. 0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:02.240 One thing about Jimmy know how to make everybody better 0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:04.080 and he don't mind taking a back row. 0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:05.520 And when he got to beat a dog, he can 0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:08.240 beat a dog. And to mar the same way. 0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:10.359 When he was in San Antonio, he was literally like 0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:12.960 a point forward almost he did every door. 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:17.320 He was doing everything. Tyler herod get buckets. As you said, 0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.680 Kobe White though, one of my choices for busta. 0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:24.320 Pro Jayla Williams gotta put him up there, like, Okay, See, 0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:27.080 this is the second season, Yeah, second season, and he's 0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:30.440 going crazy insane, I mean crazy, he's balling. I saw 0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:33.080 him yesterday. Actually it was crazy. I interviewed him in 0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:35.560 the summer. We were talking about fashion. That was the 0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:37.920 crux of the interview, and I remember we all looked 0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:39.560 at each other. I think, if we do an interview now, 0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:40.400 the topics changed. 0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:43.280 Yeah, absolutely, Are you going to be an All Star 0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:45.800 next year? That's what the topic going to be, And what's. 0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:46.680 So far by? Okay? 0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:49.360 See, and you look at other places who like even 0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:52.880 so much with Cleveland last year, like rebuilding fast in 0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:54.960 the NBA is like it's not waiting no more. That's 0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.480 like even with the Pacers, like us going to get 0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:00.200 Pascal was just like, oh we really actually found want 0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:02.520 to trend now because nowadays them young teams, they're not 0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:04.520 young long. You get your pieces that you can ride 0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:05.960 with and you figure out how to feel the slot 0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:09.680 and you can have a rebuild year in eighteen months. 0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:13.040 How is that like now with the drafting process, is 0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:15.400 that like is that weighing in on how draft picks 0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:16.040 are value now? 0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:17.280 The way that people are rebuilding. 0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:21.640 I mean it's just now you either are going to 0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:23.400 hoard your draft picks or you're going to use them, 0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:25.959 right Like, so Indy, Indie went all in, you know, 0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:28.440 they didn't. The thing with Indie is they didn't value 0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:31.040 this year's draft. That's that's the crux of it. So 0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:33.440 they didn't value as high as to be like, we'll 0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:35.560 move these three first year to go. 0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:37.600 Get Pascal Siakam. And they did it. 0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.920 She was like, okay, see, I mean, they got one 0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:42.400 of the more talented young rosters. 0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:43.680 But they also have, like. 0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:49.720 I want to say, they got ten first round picks. 0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:52.440 They can trade, a bunch of seconds obviously, a bunch 0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:55.760 of swaps they can trade. And that's why they made 0:29:56.080 --> 0:30:00.000 a trade with Dallas on deadline day that went overlooked. 0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:03.080 They gave up their twenty one of their twenty twenty 0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:04.760 four first roup. I think they had a couple one 0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.560 of their twenty twenty four first round picks to Dallas 0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:09.840 for a future pick swap. They didn't even get a 0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:13.000 future first they get, they get pick swap, unprotected pick swap. 0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:15.760 So that's Sam Presty being like, listen, we got we 0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:19.480 got enough young players here, We're gonna give up one 0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:21.360 of our first round picks coming up soon. Because it's like, 0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:23.120 what are you gonna do with one more rookie scale 0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:25.640 guy on this roster? So give up that pick and 0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:27.959 then we'll get We'll see if we want to swap 0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.560 like four or five years from now, three years from 0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:33.600 if we need that. So I think what they're building 0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:36.160 right now is you got to give them credit. And 0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:38.920 that the deadline they get Gordon Hayward. And I think 0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.320 the Gordon Hayward pickup is good because he's a vet. 0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:43.680 He plays the right way. But let's say you have 0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:47.040 a guy with you know, as an injury, but there's 0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.160 foule trouble down the stretch of a playoff game, like 0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.880 who better to throw in there? Or someone might be struggling. 0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.360 Who better to throw in there than Gordon Hayward reable 0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:55.440 that in that type of moment. 0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:58.240 And he literally is like perfect fit for their team 0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:00.800 because he played just how they play. They all play 0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:04.480 with six eight wings, like Jalen Williams plays the four, 0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:07.440 you know what I mean. Gordon hayrids the same size 0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:11.680 as him. They all like play the positionless basketball basically 0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:15.920 because ship he is center, but they really pg he 0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:19.680 a small forward. Really you can shoot, dribble all that. 0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:22.120 So their team is just like a perfect play. They 0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:25.760 play like I play on two kal. Everybody can pass, 0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:33.440 everybody can shoot, everybody can dribble the ball. So now 0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:36.760 another interesting situation we got moder for next year. The Pelicans. 0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:39.960 I can't believe it, but they're really thinking that they 0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:42.120 have to choose between brandon Ingram and Zion next year. 0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:47.160 I think, so, why can't you play them both? You 0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:50.720 can afford it? Do they? But the Repelicans? Do you 0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:51.480 think they? Uh? 0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:55.400 Because I am right, his contract can be voided now right, 0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:59.120 I mean that'll be crying. 0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:01.680 I mean, he's he's playing, He's played. 0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:06.320 I was just saying, like they got him off the Internet. 0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:07.800 That's how it was. They were trying to scare him off. 0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:11.920 I got off in there. Everything cool. Freaky, he gonna 0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:13.200 meet those white requirements. 0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:15.600 You call him freaky zkys at the nickname. 0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:17.719 No, he ain't earned it. He ain't earned the full name. 0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:23.440 Yeah, it's just freak for that freaky you get. 0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:28.840 A real nickname. But boy, but they gotta. 0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:30.360 What do you think about their team, Jeff? Do you 0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:35.040 think that with those two guys and c J. Like 0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:38.280 they they called them the Johnson Murray Treate deadline. They 0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:41.600 looked at different packages, mostly around you know, the young 0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:44.239 player that they were looking at, Diyson Daniels potentially, you know, 0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:46.560 Atlanta wanted to Herb Jones and that was that was, 0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:50.160 that was Jones, and Orleans didn't want to move her 0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:54.080 Herb Jones from what I was and so and that's 0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:57.240 what It's such a fine line because New Orleans is like, listen, 0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:00.400 if we can bring into Johnason Murray while keeping on corps, 0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:02.400 of course we want to do that. But the moment 0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:03.880 you have to give up a member of your core, 0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:06.120 it's like is it worth it? Does it really make 0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:07.760 us better than to push over the time? Would you 0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:09.480 have given up Herb Jones for the joy? 0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:09.920 Yeah? 0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:13.200 I think because Jonte is still young and he a 0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:15.600 two way player. He plays hard, but I get I 0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:17.800 gave him. It gives him another ball handler because I 0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:19.640 know c j can play point, but he's not a 0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:24.760 natural point guard. Johntay, he's the two way to UH 0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:27.600 combo guard. But I just give him another ball handler. 0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:32.640 Herb Jones is a defender shooter. He's a defender first. 0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:36.920 Yeah, I think. 0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.880 You can get another one of him, like another Yeah, 0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:41.400 I think you can. I think you can find another 0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.600 long defender. I mean, Miami do it every year. 0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:46.560 You got to give. 0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:50.360 So I think you can find a guy like him. 0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:52.960 I'm not saying he's not a valuable player. He definitely 0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.000 is the reason that my Hawks want him. But you 0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:59.240 can find another guy. They don't do that. Bro, we rebuilding. 0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.440 But yeah, I was about to trade trade Young though. 0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:07.040 We gotta we gotta make we got a club five 0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:07.880 twenty predictions. 0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:08.799 Nah, I made that up. 0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:14.120 But the probably he probably want to go though. I'm 0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:17.240 sure he wants to go to San Antonio. Oh that's 0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:18.480 a bro. 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.880 I was to play with. 0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:26.200 Wimby is cool, will be but going with from from 0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:29.440 Atlanta to San Antonio is from Oklahoma too. 0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:32.399 You didn't play for Quinn, did you? Yeah? I played 0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.160 with Quinn my first his first year in Atlanta. In Atlanta. 0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:36.600 Do you think Quinn wants to rebuild? 0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:38.520 Now? 0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.239 Quinn like to win, That's what I'm saying. He likes 0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:42.600 to win. 0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.279 So if you're Quinn's, if you're Quinn, you know, from 0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:48.520 everything I hear, the Quinn trade relationship has been really good. 0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:50.960 Yeah, I think I think you know, it's two things. 0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:53.400 I think Trey understands he needs Quinn to win, and 0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:55.719 Quinn knows he needs Trey if you're going to try 0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:59.120 to win in Atlanta. And that relationship has been good. 0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:01.680 So what do you do if you're in Atlanta? 0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:02.520 You just can't. 0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:07.239 It's nobody on the market that can like over yeah, 0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:09.680 like take a lenover, like over the Hump. You got 0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:11.359 to have a certain type of player to play with Trump. 0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:13.600 You know, you need a live threat, or you need 0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:15.920 a big that has the ability to stretch the floor, 0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.040 and we haven't been able to get that in Atlanta. 0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:22.640 Like I love our bigs, I love oh Jalen. Everybody's cool. 0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:26.439 Like it's just not a great fit right now though, 0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:29.200 Like Dee Hunt really doesn't play anymore. 0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:31.719 Dre like he need to play. 0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:33.279 I'm not gonna say you need to play more, but 0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.000 he don't play as much as he used to, So 0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.759 I'm sure he's a trade piece, but this contract is 0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:43.560 pretty steep. The John tay Tray, they're both great guards, 0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:45.919 but I don't know if they fit together. I don't 0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:49.240 know if that's Trey needs the ball like he's Luca, 0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:50.520 he's James Harden. 0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:51.239 He needs the ball. 0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.920 So you got to put guys around who can make shots, 0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:56.360 shot up, create their own shot here and there. But 0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.080 Trey gonna credit for him and the John Tey a 0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:01.279 guy he's still in twenty points a game, but he's 0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:04.399 a guy that I do this too. I don't think 0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:06.120 it's a great fit. Speaking you talking about one of 0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:08.240 the best trades in history. I feel like that Luca 0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:12.520 and Trade trade is still I know, obviously Luca's here 0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:14.680 even though trades here, but that's still one of the 0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:18.279 better trades because both teams got a franchise player, but 0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:19.080 you did get. 0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:20.960 A generational talent in Luca. I understand. 0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.279 I know it's different, but it's still like they didn't 0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:24.480 get a person who was a slope. 0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:29.160 Trey Young is r EBA cowper players Young co. They've 0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:31.759 both been to the conference finals though, no, that's a fact. 0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.239 That's a fact, both of them. We played Trey Young 0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:35.480 in the conference finals. 0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:39.840 Yeah, you had I have my my bright spot in that. 0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:42.000 Seriously, he said, what the fuck? You can't even shoot 0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:47.600 no more? Damn? What do you think about Milwaukee right now? 0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:53.600 Deer for the deer, my bucks, the bucks, my bucks. 0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:55.680 They are in a rough patch right now. I think 0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:57.400 it's up and down. They're still trying to find themself. 0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:00.800 I think once a Dame man Johannes get on the 0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:03.880 same page, like once the doc figures out, they want. 0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:05.680 To work together. But I feel like they have to 0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:11.120 play separately, you know how, Like, yeah, they think they. 0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:13.080 Have to let Dame have his moment with the team 0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:15.600 and then Jannice have his moment, and then once they 0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:18.759 do that, I think they'll find a good groove because Dames, yeah, 0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:23.120 like because Dame so talented offensively, yeah, and Janna so 0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:26.200 talented offensively. I think if you don't let them both 0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.719 have their moments where they're the guy, yeah, it ain't 0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:33.200 gonna work for sure. Free te nasty? Who's that T nasty? 0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:38.319 You gotta have T nasty? Bro, the nastiest, He's he's 0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:43.400 a missing link. Bro oh yeah, he him gluous crazy. 0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:47.040 He seems like a great teammate though no, he's an 0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:50.319 assistant coach for real. Though no, I did serious, bro, 0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:53.520 he was. He used to really like pull me to 0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:55.200 the side before the games and tell me what I 0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:57.200 need to do. Did you listen to be like, Bro, 0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:01.520 I'm not about to play until that's a Drew or 0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.279 somebody like he was like, no, no, when you get in 0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:05.920 you need to do that. Na, Bro, he talks with 0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:08.200 the wrong dude. Bro, I'm on this group project like you. 0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:14.359 I's got no word he did. 0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:16.760 That's crazy. 0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:21.920 Now I know that this was rumor, but Lebron possibly 0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:24.120 being a warrior them trying to make that happen. It's 0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:26.919 still crazy. But I still would love for that to happen, 0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:28.400 one way or nothing. I would love to see a 0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:32.799 season of Lebron at to play with stuff. It would 0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:35.360 ruin the NBA and I'm here for I mean, that 0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:36.160 would be crazy. 0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:39.399 I don't I don't think there was any any chance 0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:42.840 Lebron James was leaving the leaders at all at the deadline, 0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:46.880 no matter who called, right, But like, this summer is 0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:48.640 gonna be interesting. He has a playoffs and at the 0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:51.719 end of the day, his futures is in question just 0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:53.000 for simple fact he's got a playoffs. 0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:55.360 We don't know what he's gonna do. Where does Bronnie 0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:55.680 end up? 0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:55.839 Does? 0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:58.440 Brownie declared that he get in the draft? Who drafts him? 0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:01.560 Like, there's all these dominalds have to fall before his playoffs. 0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:04.000 I believe the playoffs and date is after the draft, 0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:06.480 so We're gonna a lot of questions gonna be answered 0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:11.440 if if Bronnie comes out's in the draft, We're gonna 0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:15.279 like a lot of questions like let's say Miami or 0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:17.320 whoever drafts Bronnie. 0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:20.560 Right then then that'd be crazy. 0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:24.000 Well no, you know, like, does you know Lebron has 0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:25.960 said he wants to play with Bronnie, But does that 0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:29.719 mean next season? Does that mean after Brownie's rookie year? Like, 0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:32.440 there are a lot of questions that I think Lebron 0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:36.839 still has to figure out and and spend second half 0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:38.560 of the season. We still don't know if all that 0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:40.520 team is gonna go. We still don't know what's gonna 0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:43.040 happen with that team. Obviously they got Spencer to do. 0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:44.959 When you other biout market, they didn't make any trades 0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:48.200 of the deadline. That was basically their their trade. And 0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:50.320 I think he's gonna be a good fit. Gave Vincent 0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:53.160 trying to come back week of March, potentially second week 0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:53.520 of March. 0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:55.759 We'll see if he makes it back. But they got 0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:56.239 to get healthy. 0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.359 Jared Vanderbilt has to get back in the lineup for sure, 0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:00.319 and if they get healthy, I mean this him as 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:02.040 a shot I think they get They got to the 0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:05.439 Western conscience last year. As long as the coaching side 0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:06.960 players on the same page, I think they have a shot. 0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:09.880 Yeah. I think Lebron booked that vacation a little bit 0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:12.040 earlier this year. Yeah, but I. 0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:15.520 Lebronni gets drafted to Cleveland and Lebron go back to Cleveland. 0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:18.919 This is like a two K story, Like it's not real. 0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:22.279 Cat that would be the most toxic relationship of all 0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:25.560 get drafted to the Lakers, Bro, Yeah, they gonna draft him. 0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:29.359 That's going back to your X twice. It's crazy. If 0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:31.560 Lebron go back to Cleveland, that's insane. 0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:35.080 Well three times it started there, left went back, he 0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:35.880 went back twice. 0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:39.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of time, a lot of 0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:41.480 time back on alone the NBA. 0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:44.439 A man, we don't really miss Lebron because ain't nobody 0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:45.800 else gonna be able to do this shit. 0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:46.080 That he does. 0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:48.600 It really like half everybody mind messed up for a 0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:50.200 whole year just off allegation. 0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:52.320 Who do you guys think are like the next names 0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:59.000 after Lebron's stephars. 0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:59.160 Broy He's one of the guys. 0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:03.440 I think Shay, I think for sure, a little mellow 0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:07.440 m got Charlotte, though, I don't know. 0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:10.839 I think he's a great player of personalities with the game. 0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:14.640 Bro the game has changed, but they're so bad in Charlotte, 0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:18.480 Like you can't even appreciate his game because they're so bad. 0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:20.640 I think for the first time in a while, Charlotte 0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:24.160 actually picked a direction though, trading guys away, getting picks. 0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:27.839 And mellow been so long. Yeah, you know what I mean. 0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:30.200 They got Trey Mendo. I like that for them. 0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:33.080 Yeah, he's playing really really well. Grant Williams the guy. 0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.400 His value was low and he's played. 0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:41.560 I know what he was doing because I played with Grant. 0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:44.320 He's not a bad guy at all. He's just probably 0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:47.719 just talking the whole time. He never shuts up, Like 0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:50.600 the whole day he talks. He wakes up talking. He'd 0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:54.720 be like Grant, I don't care, leave it alone. Grand 0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:56.600 the first play in the DP for talking too much. 0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:57.600 They put in on the report. 0:41:58.920 --> 0:41:59.880 Literally, I see, I know. 0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:01.719 Uh. 0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:05.560 I think Luca and John gonna take over the league though, 0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:11.680 that's one person. Like Joe's absence was felt this year. 0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:14.200 Yeah, man, I mean when he came back through six 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:17.840 and three, they were rolling. It was unfortunate. Man, it 0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:20.000 is injury, but they cannot play without him. 0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.440 Jaron Jackson is a totally different player without driving ran 0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:27.160 the whole team. The whole team is he He's an 0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:28.920 all star though, you know what I mean, It's kind 0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:30.520 of like, damn, he really need your guy. 0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:35.680 He's the hard beat of the team. He everything to 0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:39.560 the team. But that's because his personality the team. I 0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:42.160 think losing Dylan Brooks, even though they got my guy. 0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:44.960 Marcus is a good player. He's been hurt too, But 0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:46.600 Dylan Brooks was like. 0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:48.520 No, you're right edge. 0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:51.840 Yeah, and it made him like almost like that Tony Allen, 0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:54.680 Mike Conley z BO kind of team. 0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:57.520 But you hope Smart gives you that once once once 0:42:57.600 --> 0:42:58.839 the team is whole again. 0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:02.000 Yeah, but it's kind of different, you know, Like Smart 0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:06.280 King he had that Boston lineage. Like Boston, they carried 0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:09.200 themself a certain way. He walked in your bags, your 0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:11.160 clothes nice. Then you get to this team with all 0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:12.760 these young dudes they dancing. 0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:16.440 That ain't Smart. Smart ain't dancing. He not doing all that. 0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:19.080 He like a serious dude that you get with a 0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:22.560 team a full of young guys dancing around. I don't know, 0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:26.440 Dylan Brooks just fit that like Rocket or a good 0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:28.640 team this year. You know they he brung that same 0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:31.040 energy with them, a bunch of young guys. He he 0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:33.799 just fit in bron I don't know. I don't think 0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:35.719 they should have let him go, But I want to 0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:38.320 ask you that question to reverse, Like, I mean, obviously 0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:39.680 outside of Wimboo, you know how good he is. 0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:41.520 How you feel about some of the young workers this year? 0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:45.800 I mean check, you know he's going to be a 0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:46.919 beast for years to come. 0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:53.759 Elite. So who's your who's you guys? Kid? It's like. 0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:58.480 Statistically it's I said this actually on there like last week. 0:43:58.520 --> 0:43:59.839 I think I think it's only a matter of time 0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:01.520 of he gets a quadruple double. I think it's only 0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:03.680 a matter of time before he becomes the NBA league 0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:07.399 history leader in quadruple doubles. I think it's four guys 0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:10.560 with one quadruple doubles. He came five assists away from 0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:13.640 doing it in like twenty nine minutes the other the 0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:15.920 other the other game, Like, yeah, I think it's only 0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:17.719 a matter of time once he starts playing thirty five 0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:20.399 to forty minutes consistently, like he's gonna get one he's 0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:22.440 in yet another one that we're gonna look up. He's 0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:24.600 got like five to ten over his career. I mean, 0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:27.600 he could literally do everything, get stuff the stat sheet. Chet, 0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:29.520 you have to give him a lot of credit. And 0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:31.520 then Brandon Miller, he's played really, really well. 0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:32.399 He got a game. 0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:34.319 He looks like a guy that can definitely be an 0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:35.560 all NBA calibery. 0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:39.040 Terry Rose opened the door for him, and he'd been killing. Yeah, 0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:42.120 he's been cooking. I'm curious to see how schoo Henderson develoves. 0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:44.960 Obviously point guard, Jeff you play point that's the probably 0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:50.120 the toughest position mechanically, you know, to understand you're seeing 0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:50.960 him make strides. 0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:53.560 You know, one game, you know look really good, next 0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:56.759 game the team will struggle. Is it also tough for 0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:59.799 him not being on the team with some more bits? Yeah? 0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:04.879 It got best, but need better day the year one rebuild. Yeah, 0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:09.200 hating funny, hating funny. I'll be watching his tweet teaser 0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:13.600 Larri's d NP snowstorm. That's crazy, that's fine, called off 0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:18.759 an as far not really have you ever seen that one? No, 0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:20.400 that was the first time I seen that. I'm like, 0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:22.080 it's real. 0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:24.920 I didn't think it was real, But that happened to 0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:27.640 me in Atlanta. Actually, I take that back. I couldn't 0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:29.279 get up there. I couldn't get down the hill or 0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:31.640 up the hill in my car. I had a little BMW. 0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:34.920 I think that's what happened to deannre Is. 0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:38.560 There was a steep hill and they were saying, basically, 0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:41.840 we can't we can't allow you to come up or not, 0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:43.160 like it's just not safe. 0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:47.160 It's tough. That happened to me in Atlanta. We had 0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:50.600 a snowstorm in Atlanta. How did you get out? I didn't. 0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:53.960 They canceled the game though. Yeah, they didn't have any 0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:55.440 I couldn't move. I was stuck in the house for 0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:58.680 like three days. Lena don't prepare for snowstorms at all, 0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:00.960 so they had no trucks, nothing, so the whole city 0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:03.960 was shut down. Lou Will actually left his Phantom on 0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:07.480 the side of the road. You should ask him about it. Yeah, yeah, 0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:09.000 he left his Pantom on the side of the road. 0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:11.640 I was like, damn you do that. We know we're 0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:15.040 in trouble now. The Phantom out there because ain't nobody 0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:15.520 come to get it? 0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:18.120 Ain't know you was the. 0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:20.160 First nah, I mean they canceled the whole game, so 0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:23.640 all right, but the rest of their team got to work. Yeah, 0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:26.080 some people was at the gym, but me, they end 0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:26.839 up canceling them. 0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:29.319 I mean, if it's cancel game, you you you're good 0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:33.719 on all accounts. Yeah, he wash your team. Play for 0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:36.040 the crib. You're going crazy tonight. Hold it down. 0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:39.040 That's the first time I ever got injured. That's how 0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:39.399 I felt. 0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:42.440 They went on the road and you obviously you're watching 0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:44.600 the game. I'm like, dang, they really out there without me. 0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:48.240 I was, I was sick then it Shrewder was hoping 0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:53.560 to I was like fuck. I was like, I was 0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:54.440 touched by ankle. 0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:55.080 I got to get back. 0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:56.960 I can't let him start get started minutes but he 0:46:57.040 --> 0:47:01.560 gonna take my spot. But on that note, we'll get 0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:03.399 about here, Big Dob. Appreciate, Appreciate you guys. 0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:06.120 Found man j T. 0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:09.560 You find me at the Athletic on stadium, Fandom TV, 0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:14.040 running back, uh, Twitter, Twitter, Shams Shrania, I G I 0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:15.040 think Sham's n b A. 0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:18.360 You know, I love dude. 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