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In this episode of Katching Up With Katie, Iām catching you up on where weāre at with the mares in the foaling window, what foal alert actually sounds like (spoiler: itās way less dramatic than youād think), and everything else happening on the farm at the exact same time. Foaling season, calving season, breeding season coming up, icy weather, plus some very real detours into snakes, donkeys, and some truly unhinged donkey lore. š®š«š
We also talk about how many foals a mare can have, what itās like foaling out for the first time, how weaning calves works, and how I figure out feed plans for the horses. And yes, we definitely brainstorm a much more dramatic foal alert system that probably needs to exist. šš„
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00:00 Welcome
02:00 Foal Watch
06:30 My Dad's Crazy Pet
09:45 How Many Foals Can a Mare Have?
23:10 Chatter Happy Ponies
29:30 Can Donkeys Colic?
36:30 Question for Buck!
43:00 That's All Folks
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Welcome 0:00 Welcome back to Katching Up With Katie. And no, we donāt have a foal yet. As of this being filmed, 0:07 we donāt. It is almost February and we donāt have a foal yet. Last year at this time, 0:13 we had three foals and by the end of January, we had four. Hereās the kicker. Thatās still 0:21 possible. Very true. I feel [clears throat] oneās going to drop and the rest are just going to follow. Todayās the 29th. Foal-o. We have 48 hours. We have two days and some change 0:35 and we could beat last year. We have five mares in the foaling window and one of them is nine 0:41 days overdue. It could still be possible. You think theyāre all going to go tonight? 0:46 I donāt know. I havenāt even looked at any of their udders today yet because weāve been just doing so many other things and so Iām about to go after this and check on them. But Raven, 0:56 I donāt, she might just be one of those that goes a long time because hereās the thing. Healthily, 1:02 a mare can go a year. Mhm. Like thatās not uncommon. [snorts] I think itās not necessarily 1:08 the average. The average is what we consider their due date, which is around 340. But that 1:13 means thereās got to be a lot of mares that go over, right? I just have not had that experience. 1:19 And I think there are actually a couple studies about the light theory that Iāve been having. 1:26 And I donāt think we can necessarily use my own mares at this point to say if itās working or 1:33 not because Raven, Iāve never foaled her out before. This could just be her normal. Indy always goes to her due date in my experience and sheās getting there. And then itās really 1:43 the last couple of mares that are due. So itāll be April when theyāve all had their babies in 1:51 the 320s and I made sure that we were intentional in not having their lights on past four or five 1:59 oāclock this year. So weāll see if they go a little longer. But yeah, weāre at this point Foal Watch 2:05 everyone in the comments is like, āTurn her light on. Turn her light on.ā Like someone last night, āGive us the freaking baby.ā Someone last night was like, āCharm that baby out.ā 2:14 Well, for Luminara. So weāve been live streaming the foaling, not foaling, foal watch. And so on 2:22 the nights where weāre not hanging out and weāre just like dead to the world, we turn it on to just the foal camera. And so weāve been just swapping points of view of watching Raven. 2:33 And thatās fine. Like, a lot of people have been watching it. Weāve been leaving it on for like 10 to 12 hours. Yeah. And so itās all night. And last night we played Dungeons and Dragons, 2:42 which is a new hyperfixation. Weāre watched. And so last night we started a new campaign. And so 2:50 our fellow nerds who were watching with us had some funny jokes. Yeah, I did see someone be like, 3:00 I canāt remember the exact spell, but there was a spell someone kept saying. They were like, āImmediusā or something like that. [laughter] I saw that one, too. Okay. The have to foalus. 3:13 Yeah, something like that. Foalus. So weāre ready. Weāre ready. Yeah. 3:20 But at the same time, I keep being like, itās cold. [laughter] Yeah. Can we wait till itās 40 3:27 something? Because with the new insulation in the barn, itās like truly 20 to 25 degrees warmer in 3:33 the barn at night than it is outside. So next week itās going to be, you know, 30s at night 3:39 instead of zero. And so itāll be not even jacket weather inside. Itāll be like in the 50s. Yeah. 3:47 But yeah, weāre all tired. I havenāt slept in my own bed. Iāve been in the shop for two 3:53 weeks. Lindsay lives here now. Youāre a trooper. An absolute trooper. And Buck, no complaints. Buck 4:00 didnāt even know us a couple weeks ago. He got thrown in for sure. Iāve been acquainted now. 4:06 Weāve been trying to keep you fed. Oh, itās great here. He sleeps on a bed with a pillow and a blanket. Heās gotten minimum four showers per day. 4:16 Got to get my showers in. We find everyoneās little things, 4:22 quirks, and he likes a good shower. I do. 4:28 But yeah, weāre trucking along. Lindsay does have some questions that we got from Facebook and weāre 4:36 just trying to keep all the new people that are finding my channel through foaling season and through foal watch informed because there are so many different things going on all at once pretty 4:47 much all the time on the farm. Like weāre still waiting on calves. Itās calving season right now. 4:52 We have three heifers that are due like right now. So itās calving season. Itās foaling season. Like weāre about to start breeding season here soon. I mean, weāre doing horse shows. Like, itās just, 5:00 thereās always something going on. So do you have, you got something to start us off with? Yes. This one is just a fun one just to start us off. Just to break the ice. Have 5:11 you ever had break the ice because thereās a lot of ice? Because itās icy outside. Got him. 5:19 So have you ever had a snake encounter? Like someone, like a snake has bitten you? 5:24 I hate snakes. Okay. I hate them. Like, even a little garter snake. I canāt do snakes. No, 5:32 I did have a snake in, hold on. There was one at the barn. The other, it wasnāt me though. 5:39 Like the girls had me freaked out to go into the tack room because there was one that had made a little home and then it was just sticking its head out. But I havenāt, no, I havenāt really 5:49 had any snake encounters myself. What are yāall, snake people? 5:54 I love snakes. No. No. You look like a snake guy. Iām a snake, Iām an anything 5:59 guy. They donāt bother me. I could see you with like a reptile guy. Like a pet snake. Iāve had some pet snakes. Yeah, 6:06 but they were just like ones I found in the yard. Not like real, still. See, that checks out. Youāre an old soul. Old country boy. 6:14 Yeah, Iāve had raccoons. Iāve had bobcat pets. Just whatever shows up at the old 6:19 house in Mississippi. [laughter] They would just stick around and then at that point you just feel bad for them. So youāre like, āHereās some food,ā and then now theyāre your pet. 6:27 So, my dad is like that. Thatās what Iām saying. Kind of an old soul. And I remember one of his My Dad's Crazy Pet 6:33 favorite stories is that in college, hey yāall, itās Katie. Did you know that you could bring a 6:38 little piece of Running Springs into your home? And just so you know, if youāre a paid subscriber 6:43 on TikTok, Facebook, or Instagram, you will always get a 25% off discount with your subscriber code 6:50 on the merch store. Weāve got the cutest merch featuring all the farm favorites like our mini cows, mares and foals, goats, donkeys, and of course the mini horses. Youāll find t-shirts, 7:01 cozy hoodies, zip ups, mugs, and so much more. Some of the designs are limited edition, 7:06 so when theyāre gone, theyāre gone. But donāt worry, a few favorites stick around at least until the end of the year. Weāve also started adding fun new things like diamond art kits, 7:14 paint by number sets, shoe charms, and even coloring books. And trust me, thereās a lot more coming later this year. So check back often and donāt forget to join the email list so you 7:24 donāt miss out on the new drops. So head over to katievanslyke.net to get all of your favorites before theyāre gone. And now back to the video. He had a rat snake as a pet. So he had like, 7:36 I guess in the old dorm rooms, I canāt remember. He went to Martin Methodist, I think, or something 7:42 like that. And I donāt know if the dorms were super old or what. They were just like super, like, he had rats in his room. I donāt know what that says about his cleanliness or whatever, 7:52 but he was like, āYeah, I kept me a rat snake for the rats in my room.ā And I was like, āOkay.ā And 8:00 he would, he just left, he would let it out during the day and then he put it up at night. Like he 8:07 would just let it be out in his room during the day. And he said the last day I had it, it got cold and he felt it slithering up his leg one night. It got in bed with him for heat 8:17 and [clears throat] it slithered up his leg one night and I was like, I canāt even imagine. And 8:23 so heās like, āYeah, after that I went and set it free. It never bit me once until I released it and then it bit me as it left.ā Oh, I didnāt like that. Oh my goodness. 8:32 And when they bite you, they leave little teeth in you. Yeah. Youāve seen me with a little anxiety. Youāve never seen me in a panic. Snakes. I would have been in a panic if a snake was up my leg. 8:43 I mean rat snakes get, theyāre big. Yeah, theyāre big. It wouldnāt even have to be a snake. I could just, that was a graphic. Yeah. Yeah. I could just think 8:51 it was something similar. I donāt take chances. It would have been wild. Thatās all I can say. I 9:04 would have gone crazy. I would have been throwing everything, kicking, screaming, flopping covers. I would have embarrassed myself. Your wife would have been like, ick big 9:15 time. [laughter] Oh my god. So Jonathan, my husband, is the opposite where he freaks me out with how comfortable he is with 9:22 snakes. And so heāll just, he doesnāt care. And Iāve seen him be in predicaments where Iām like, 9:29 you should care a little bit more. Like, why are we putting ourselves in vicinities 9:35 with rattlesnakes and stuff? Like why are we like, no. [laughter] 9:40 I got a lovely video I got to show you. John, you and Jonathan should talk snakes. How Many Foals Can a Mare Have? 9:46 Okay. So, is there a limit to how many, I wrote, how many mares a foal can have? How many foals a mare can have? I would love to know what 9:57 the record is, like how many has a mare had. I would say generally in my experience 10:07 a [snorts] a career broodmare, so one that thatās like her job, her whole adult life, 10:14 10 to 15 is super normal for those types of mares that start early. Now, the later 10:19 they start kind of the less they can have safely. Like itās like if they start earlier and theyāre 10:26 kept healthy throughout the pregnancies, itās like their body adapts to it and is used to it and they can hold that pregnancy a lot easier if theyāre just kind of staying in broodmare shape. 10:35 But letās see. Beyonce had six before we retired her for other reasons from carrying for herself. 10:45 Iām trying to think of any of my mares. We donāt know how many Indyās had. I bet Indyās had quite a few. Sheās only had two with me since 2021. This will be her third one. And I know she had 10:55 at least one to one or one to three before me. But yeah, I would say the norm for a career 11:05 broodmare is I would say maybe eight. Eight to 15. Thatās a pretty big range. But I mean, 11:14 thereās some people that have said, like Iāve seen them in my comments being like, āOh my gosh, back 11:19 in the day we had a mare that carried babies into her late 20s.ā And so if she had a baby even every 11:25 other year from the time she was, you know, three, four, five, like thatās over 10. Or if she had 11:34 one every year for a while, that could be in the teens, you know. So it just depends. It depends on 11:39 the mare. It depends on her genetics. It depends on when she starts. Itās a lot of factors. 11:46 And I would say like the oldest mare Iāve ever bred was 20. She was in super good health when 11:55 we bred her. She unfortunately, it was like one of the most fluke things, it was cool. Weāve talked 12:01 about her. But every single day, fellow breeders that Iāve looked up to or thoroughbred farms, 12:09 youāll see these mares that are having these million-dollar babies at 22 years old, 12:17 24 years old. And I would definitely say itās harder to get them in foal maybe 12:24 as they get a little bit older. But some mares genetically, they are just absolutely good at it 12:30 and itās not as hard on their body. And then thereās mares like Gracie, who was a recent 12:36 mare of ours. Sheās had three babies and Iām like, I think sheās done. You can just tell. 12:42 So I donāt think thereās necessarily a hard stop. And I think itās just like women, you know, 12:50 itās like humans, everybodyās different. Some women, one pregnancy is hell on their body and 13:08 itās not healthy for them to have more. Other women can pop out 10. It just is what it is. 13:13 Good on you for recognizing that and like other mares that you donāt continue to push them when theyāre done. They have zero issues having babies year 13:26 to year because theyāre built to be where they have an 11-month pregnancy so that they have 13:31 their babies in the spring, they can be bred pretty quickly after they foal, but their body, 13:37 they donāt even recognize theyāre pregnant till later on. So itās such a long gestation 13:42 that you can breed them and then theyāre recovered by the time they have another one. And they basically have this six-month break of just chilling. Like they have their foal, even if 13:51 you rebreed them like a month or two months later, they have their foal on their side for about six months and then they have another six to eight months where theyāre just chilling, hanging out. 14:03 And so, you know, sometimes my mares have zero issues having multiple babies in a row. Other 14:08 times they just donāt really hold weight well or whatever and then they need a year off in between. 14:13 Like it just, itās all very mare dependent. Cool. Thank you for that. I did not know that. 14:21 Okay. How nervous were you, sorry, I need to stop saying um, how nervous were you to foal out the first time? And who did you foal out the first time? 14:31 So, Iāve been watching foals be born since I was like literally a toddler. There are 14:39 photos of me in my footy pajamas down at the barn with Bo when he was born. Yeah, Bo is 26 years old. That would put you about, we donāt need 14:49 to talk about what thatāll put me at. [laughter] And so Iāve been around it and we werenāt the type 14:58 of breeding farm that had as many as weāre doing now. We had one to three babies a year and it 15:04 was consistent. We had them every year. And we had calves every year and we had a couple of my ponies 15:11 foal. So we had some smaller, you know, not minis but my show ponies would foal sometimes. Just 15:18 always was very in it, but I wasnāt necessarily doing the behind the scenes, wasnāt necessarily doing the breeding part of it until later. And I would always help at night and help 15:30 watch and we did have a break there for a little bit where we foaled out for other people because 15:36 we didnāt have any broodmares of our own. And so a couple of our trainers we were working with had 15:41 recent mares that needed foaling out and so we did it for them and stuff like that. And that was more when I was in college and I wasnāt at home, so I wasnāt as hands-on during those years. 15:50 And then I decided, you know what, I want to get back into this. And so we, letās see, we 16:00 had Annie in 2015, which we, like Annie was born on the property. I donāt know if you knew that. 16:06 I remember you saying that at one point. But Annie, which is one of the mares, sheās due this year, she was born in 2015 when I was in college. And so we had to send her to 16:15 the vet clinic to foal out because it was over spring break and we had a trip. So she went to 16:22 the vet clinic and they foaled her out. She was born like Annie herself was born a day or two 16:28 before we got home. And so that was all good. And I donāt think we had another foal that was 16:36 ours. Like I think we foaled out a boarder and stuff like that. I donāt think we had another foal that was ours until 2019. So there was a little gap there. 16:47 And 2019, I remember my parents were there, but I did it all, which was with 16:56 Beyonceās first baby, Frankie. And Frankie ended up passing away at two weeks old. She ran into a fence and broke her neck. Freak accident. So that was Beyonceās oldest filly. 17:08 And then with Stevie on it was pretty much me. And so the first one that I can remember where 17:14 I did not have the option to call for backup, I didnāt have this sense of safety to be like, 17:20 āHey momā or āhey dadā or āhey whoever, can you come see if everythingās whatever,ā 17:26 the first time I had no safety net other than calling my vet in was Penelope, which was 2023. 17:34 Yeah. So like I had done some stuff before that by myself, but they were like up at the house and Iād be like, 17:40 āHey,ā or like call and ask questions or whatever. They went on like a cruise or something over 17:45 Penelope and I was like, bro, just leaving me, just deserting me. And so Penelope was born a little early. So I think they were supposed to be home by her 17:54 due date, but she was born in the early 320s. And so I think we did a video of that because 18:01 I think one of the YouTube videos from Penelopeās birth was me sitting down talking about the fact 18:07 that that was like the first time I had been just like, no backup. And it was on Jonathanās phone. 18:16 Yeah. We didnāt get that on film. And we had, all of a sudden she changed like super quick that day and was dripping milk and stuff. I 18:27 was like, shoot, I donāt have any enemas. I donāt have any, like she was the first mare of the year. Like I had nothing. And so I went to Walgreens at like 11 oāclock that night and that was a viral 18:37 video actually. It ended up being a viral video where I went to go get enemas, went to go get 18:43 more betadine or iodine or whatever. And when I got back, literally her foal alert went off within 18:49 an hour. Like feet were coming out like that. And so that was a wild ride. But that was I think that 18:56 was my first solo, like my first free solo. Yeah. No backup, no safety rope, no nothing. 19:05 I meant free solo, like the guy thatās been climbing the buildings, Alex Honnold. Yeah. Yeah. People were surprised that he, 19:14 like climbed it beforehand to make sure it was climbable there and everyoneās like, you thought he was just going to climb it without making sure he could climb it. So 19:22 he climbed it with a rope connected first just to make sure it was climbable. He had 19:28 the correct hand grabs or whatever just to make sure he could do it. Honestly, I didnāt even think about that. And then did not even think about that. 19:35 Yeah, I didnāt realize it was, he did it either and then everyone was like, okay, that makes. Did he climb down or do they go get him with a helicopter? 19:41 A lot of times heāll rappel down. I donāt know if he did it on that one, on the building. How did he get down? Iām not sure. We should look that up. 19:47 I saw like a TikTok where he said like sometimes I climb down, sometimes I rappel, sometimes Iāll just, I think it was on it. Yeah, Iām sure he was on Netflix. 19:56 Yeah, it was live on Netflix. Yeah, I feel like from a building like that, Iād be like helicopter. Just grab the, lift up. Or farming just, yeah. 20:07 Whenever you wean cows, is it different from horses or is it the same? So we try our best to go off of the Farmerās Almanac for all of our weaning. It does make 20:18 a difference. I swear it does. But there is a little bit tighter of a, you want to wean them 20:48 as close to 205 as possible. So, because our calving season is spread out so far, 20:54 we have like multiple weanings. So sometimes like the groups, you know, someone might be a little 20:59 over 205, whatever. And so we do it in batches. So weāre not just weaning one calf at a time. 21:07 And what we do is we separate them and we put the mamas in a different field and the babies 21:14 close to the barn and we feed them and try to keep them as low stress as possible. But yeah, 21:20 we basically do it in batches. Itās a little bit different but same concept. 21:26 How to determine the best mixture of feed for your horses. So, I am very lucky to have found Tribute Equine Nutrition. This is not, I didnāt know 21:36 she was going to ask this and this is not an ad. I just meant in like, do you like have a specific. 21:42 Well, right. But I utilize their free feed plans. So when I decided to swap over to Tribute, 21:50 they have an option to make a feed plan and they will, like you say, āHey, hereās my horse. Send in pictures. Hereās some medical issues they have, hereās their age, hereās their 22:02 activity level, like whatever. Help me feed him.ā So youāve done that for every horse pretty much. Yeah. And like weāll make some changes, you know, on our own, but basically, yeah. 22:12 And so a lot of itās trial and error. A lot of it is like, you know, you give them what you think 22:20 they need and then if theyāre gaining too much weight, if theyāre not gaining enough weight, if theyāre too high energy, you know, like you can kind of figure out what they need. But yeah, 22:29 Iāve utilized over the past couple years the Tribute free feed plan, which is, I did not mean, 22:36 this was not a shameless plug. She did not know I was asking for this to be an ad, but Iāll go ahead and put the link to that in the description. We were having a conversation. This is one of my 22:46 questions actually. Okay. We were having a conversation the other day about something you used to watch as a kid and I canāt 22:53 remember what itās called, but I showed her, I donāt know why this came in my brain the other day and I found a couple clips on TikTok and I donāt even know how you would watch it now because 23:04 it was I think itās on VHS and itās called Chatter Happy Ponies and it was my favorite show as a kid Chatter Happy Ponies 23:12 and I think if you look it up as to what it is, my content now will make so much sense. Like I 23:20 didnāt even correlate that I make videos where I give narrations to animals and a horse will 23:27 be standing out in the middle of a pasture and Iāll come up with something that makes it that theyāre thinking for a full minute and it makes so much sense after realizing that was the main 23:40 show that I watched as a small child. Sparkyās first day. [laughter] 23:48 The mouth moving on the horses is great. Like itās just a bunch of horses. Like it was one of those. [laughter] I literally feel like Iām just watching you, your YouTube channel. 23:58 Yeah. [laughter] Like it was one of those things where itās like Charlie Brown where the adults canāt talk, it was like, and the horses talk and they just save the 24:09 day and like the kids that rode them were like, you know, it was more so the horses were the main 24:14 characters and Iām like, oh my gosh, like horse Power Rangers. This is so true. Iām just living 24:19 my Chatter Happy Ponies life. [laughter] Did you ever expect to? 24:26 No. I always had chalked it up that I would never be able to afford horses past the age where my dad 24:33 paid for them. [laughter] No. And here you are. So, okay, the foal alert. This is a question about, 24:41 we get a lot about the foal alert. [snorts] Okay. How do you know which one goes off? 24:47 So, like, weāre watching the cameras like hawks. Okay. And honestly, last year, was there a time where the foal alert went off when we werenāt already walking out the door? 24:57 I donāt think so. Yeah, weāre pretty much walking out the door before it goes off. So generally speaking, they give us some 25:04 sort of signs. Not always. I mean, Erlene had her baby last year without anyone knowing. We 25:10 woke up to a baby. Generally, we will have an idea of, okay, this oneās getting closer. And 25:17 then they are very obvious when they are in labor and when theyāre contracting and when 25:23 theyāre having those early labor signs. So like every, itās funny watching the live streams and Iāll read the chat for a minute and everyoneās like, āSheās pushing.ā Iām like, 25:31 I promise sheās not. You will know. You will know when itās happening. And so generally speaking, 25:38 we know when itās happening before that. But if we were to fall asleep and if we were to, 25:44 I have this TV that is hooked up to my cameras and I can see all cameras at once. That would be 25:52 my first go-to. I would go look on the big screen and whoever is distressed doing it. 25:59 Yeah. Iām like, all right, Iām on my way. And weād be on the way down to the barn. And if I had to, I do a quick lap at the barn. 26:06 Yeah. Whoās down. Whoās. But thereās been a couple times that mares have surprised me. Like one time in 2023, I think it was 2023, when Ethel had Patrick, 26:23 that was a foal that unfortunately passed away. So Patrick, I remember she was in the mid-320s, 26:30 hadnāt even put her foal alert in yet because she wasnāt really showing signs and didnāt have straw 26:36 down. Wasnāt expecting it. Went to the barn to check on things. Just happened to walk in, 26:42 look in, feed her out. Iām like, and so like I got the whole thing on film because I just propped my phone up on the stall and like she ended up needing help because he had some like 26:54 major issues. His legs were like bent up and stuff and thatās why she no longer has babies. 27:01 And so I had to help her and so I just literally propped it up and thatās how 27:07 it got on film. But anyway, yeah, it was sometimes just super unexpected. 27:14 So thereās no like, this is, this foal alert went off. No. Okay, cool. No, unfortunately. Good to know. 27:21 Itās all just, itās all a pre-recorded, and thatās another thing. Theyāre like, āWeāre going to hear the foal alert.ā Iām like, āNo, Iām so sorry.ā Sorry. Itās literally just 27:28 like Iām getting a phone call and then I answer it and they say itās from my own home phone number [snorts] and they say, āFoal alert. Your mare is foaling.ā Thatās it. 27:37 Thatās it. Yeah. Huh. I thought it would be like woo, foal alert. Something like louder. 27:46 Well, the one night that the fire alarm went off, we were all like, this is not the foal alert. [laughter] We could rig up a little button and some lights. 27:56 Yeah, I keep saying I want like a gong. Okay. A foal gong. 28:03 Boom. Whenever itās born, gong it. Or whenever itās coming out, gong it. Or do we do like a bell? A little foal alert bell. 28:11 Yeah, that could be good to wake everybody up. Rally the troops. Yeah, I like that because sometimes yāall are sleeping and Iām the only one up watching. 28:19 And then like I think with Phoebe last year because she had it in the middle of the night. I think everyone was already kind of like up, asleep, and I called everyone down. 28:29 What you should have done is when the foal alert goes off, it should trip a lever that 28:35 strikes a match, which and then lights a fire over by the barn, the big flame. And 28:42 then somebody over here is standing watch. And then when they see the flame smoke, then they light this flame and then weāre on the way. Then they bust to the door and they say, āThe 28:53 beacons are lit. Gondor calls for aid.ā [laughter] And then you say, āAnd for those that donāt know, 29:04 that was Lord of the Rings nerd out.ā [laughter] Letās get that going. The beacons are 29:10 lit. The beacons are lit. Sheās sending all the way. [laughter] Oh my gosh. You have lights all the way down the road on the farm and they just [laughter] youāre 29:22 like, the beacons are lit. Oh my. 29:28 Okay. All right. This is a donkey question. Can donkeys get colic? Can Donkeys Colic? 29:34 Yeah, absolutely. Theyāre an equine species. So even though theyāre not a horse, theyāre still 29:40 an equine species and they have the same gut, the same digestive tract, the same everything. 29:48 So yeah, they [clears throat] absolutely can. I havenāt had one of my donkeys colic. But have you? 29:56 No. Thatās good. How did your donkeys fare during the weather? I thought they were going to be freezing 30:03 and they didnāt even look like there was anything going on. Did you blanket them? No. I mean, theyāve got their nice little house though. Like they have like a full 30:11 house to get underneath. Not even like a lean-to. They can get in. Yeah, they can get in. Yeah. Itās fully, and itās two rooms. So 30:17 like thereās the door and then the front room and then they can [snorts] go further into a back room 30:23 and then, you know, we put all the hay and stuff in the back room. But I mean, itād be the middle of the night and I would go out there and check on them. Iām like, why are you not in your house? 30:32 Oh, they were out in the, they would just get out and play. Like jumping on each other and 30:40 just being rough around. Thatās so cute. Was Kiko as long-haired as he was last winter? I clipped him about maybe three or four months 30:50 ago and so itās not as long but itās long but it looks tidy. 30:56 Yeah. He was so shaggy last year. Yeah. He just had like all of his, you know, 31:08 when like the hair switches from like baby hair to like adult hair and they look kind of mangy. 31:13 Yeah. So I was like, you know what, you need to feel good about yourself. So I gave him a little trim up and he looked great and then 31:22 that just kind of grew back out to full length. Now, I blanketed mine just because they donāt have 31:27 a full house to get in and it was, they have a two-sided shed, so depending on the wind, like they can get away from it and itās deep enough that they can get in there. Like they 31:36 were dry. We went and checked on them and they were always dry, warm, toasty, but I blanketed them just because like I was worried more about just them getting wet and then it was windy, 31:47 too. Yeah. But they were toasty every time I went out there. They didnāt care about being out there. 31:52 I mean, for the most part, if theyāre not acting cold, I just let them be. 32:00 Yeah. If theyāre like, Iām like, oh, you look like you might be cold. Mhm. Then weāll maybe blanket him or do it. Have you had to blanket Pico yet? 32:10 No. Pico has never had a blanket on his life. Heās never had a blanket on. He was who I was most worried about because heās still a baby. Heās still the youngest and smallest. Because I 32:19 remember when you think heās as small as Pretzel? I mean, they look very similar. 32:27 Is he going to be as small as Pretzel, you think? I donāt know. You think heāll be bigger? He might be a little bigger. Dolly. So did you know that he had 32:36 a Dolly baby before like I got Dolly? He had Dolly before I had Dolly. 32:43 No, I had no idea. The lore. The donkey lore. The donkey lore. So, I got Blanche first, 32:50 then Iām like, I need another donkey. Like, she needs a friend. She needs another. Did you know Nate at this point? Yeah. 32:56 And then he had Buck and Pretzel, but earlier he had had Dolly and Pretzel, which was Dolly and 33:05 her baby Pretzel. But then they had thought they got Dolly and a little jenny. Like, 33:10 they thought Pretzel was a jenny. He was not a jenny. He was a little jack. They didnāt want like Dolly hated him. They didnāt want him breeding his mom and like they didnāt have 33:19 space to separate them. And why would you want to separate them? So they traded Dolly for Buck, 33:25 which is another little boy. And so Dolly went to live with some other donkey girls, jennies. But then the people moved, yada yada yada, they needed a home for Dolly. I took Dolly. 33:37 Wow. Okay. Thatās the lore. Thatās the lore. Okay. So then when Dolly had a baby, it was a natural brothers reuniting. 33:47 Yeah, [snorts] theyāre very cute. And just recently they started, theyāre the ones who play 33:55 together now. Theyāre the two youngest. Yeah, thatās cute. You have three and a half donkeys. Three and a half. Because Eli is half his and like 34:06 itās really the neighbors, but he stays there. Theyāre kind of all merged and live together now. 34:11 Yeah, everyone takes care of all of them. Thatās cool. So itās like a community. 34:17 Donkey lore. Yeah, donkey lore. Cool. Cool. Cool. What job would everyone do if 34:22 they couldnāt do anything related to what theyāre doing now? So like completely different fields. 34:28 Anything related as in? So like you canāt do videography or photography. 34:35 Okay. Okay. Okay. She wouldnāt be able to breed horses or cows or do social media. 34:40 Okay, letās see. Oh, well, yeah, thatās the big one. Yeah. 34:46 What would everybody do? I would do hair and makeup. Okay. Youāre really good at makeup. I donāt know. I havenāt seen. 34:53 You know what? [laughter] You have only seen me be a hobbit. Really? [laughter] Well, I mean, I didnāt know 35:00 you had any love for hair or makeup. You got nice hair and makeup. I didnāt know that was something that you like to do yourself. We doesnāt know me. Okay. 35:08 She does. I saved it. Slack. Sheās been trying to do better. I brought it back. [laughter] Okay. Youāve only seen me in winter and for two 35:22 weeks. For two weeks. I have looked like Trunchbull. Miss Trunchbull two weeks. 35:29 Okay, I understand. But no, I actually used to do makeup and then like honestly wore a 35:36 full beat every day of my life until about the age of 24, 25 and then was like tone this down. 35:44 So she gets pretty and dressed up every now and itās like I either look like this or I 35:50 go full beat. Yeah, thereās not really an in between. Iāve been trying for an in between. 35:59 It lasted about a week. Anyway, whatās yāallās. Once foal alert or once foal watch hit, thatās when it kind of like disappeared. 36:08 No, but I love doing, I used to do hair and makeup at horse shows and do like prom makeup and stuff 36:16 like that and hair. I freaking love it. Iāve done like so many of my friendsā wedding hair and I 36:21 enjoy it very much. Itās awesome. What would you do? Question for Buck! 36:31 If I couldnāt do video or photography stuff, I donāt know. I mean, I think the dream growing 36:36 up was always to work with my dad, being on the other side of the camera and the hunting game and, you know, traveling with him and getting to just, you know, hunt, be on the other side of 36:46 the camera. But my father also was doing the video stuff, too. He was kind of half and half. Yeah, 36:52 either that or I donāt know, on the other side of the camera. I always wanted to be like an action 37:01 sports type of guy. Okay. Whether that was like motocross or something like that. 37:06 I could see you doing that. Yeah, something like that. Thatād be cool. 37:13 So thatās more of like a, okay, youād want to be like an athlete. Yeah, I guess thatās not really a job. Could be. 37:20 Outside the box. Buck. What? [clears throat] I mean, or youāre just doing your dream so hard that thereās no other options. 37:27 Yeah, thatās definitely what it is for [laughter] sure. Yeah. I mean, 37:33 my dream was to always not work for something that I didnāt enjoy. And Iāve been doing that 37:40 right now more than ever. But Iāve been doing that for a while, so Iāve been pretty happy. 37:47 Is this, are we thinking more like realistic or. Yeah. Oh, I was going realistic, but you. I think if I think if weāre going realistic, 38:54 I would say I would either be, Iād try to get into real estate, try to be a realtor, 38:59 or what I was doing all of my younger life, which was kind of like what Jonathan was doing, 39:06 landscape. I keep calling, Iāve got a best friend named Joseph and I always want to call him Joseph. Jonathan. [laughter] Joseph is, yeah, heās a guy I grew up with. But yeah, 39:17 something like that where it was like I did a lot of landscaping, would have wanted to move into more of a like excavation and being more of like a foreman type, like running the show. 39:28 Yeah. Not as much in the field. Gotcha. Lowkey thought that was going somewhere else. What is your. Yeah. 39:35 What would you do? Dude, I love retail. Yeah. I really enjoy retail. 39:42 Youāre a special human, dude. Iāve worked in American Eagle, in J. Crew Factory, Loft, Leviās, Perry Ellis. I have a nice Perry Ellis jacket. Perry Ellis. 39:55 What do you like about retail? So, I guess Iām not, itās just as a 40:01 not wanting to like interact with strangers all, like thatās not my strength. Itās so 40:08 foreign to be like something you want to do. I really enjoy like talking to people. So, 40:15 I used to work at Lip Lab before I worked here and I really enjoyed the face-to-face interaction and 40:21 having to like force a, not force a conversation but have to keep a conversation up since youāre 40:27 sitting across from someone for an hour. Yeah. But like with shopping, people come in and out. You can meet people from all over the world, 40:33 which I mean you can do that at any job, right? But within a mall, like whenever I worked at 40:39 Opry Mills, people would come from the airport and just be like, āOh yeah, Iām at my layover going to Australia.ā And Iām like, āOh, okay, cool.ā Like, yeah. But I just really like that. 40:48 And money handling. I love counting cash. I love doing deposits. Oh, so you could be banker. I would totally, I could maybe, 40:56 probably not. I donāt know. You know, I was gonna make fun of 41:02 you for a second. I was gonna say, youāre like, I love money handling and counting, and I was like how long it took for us to figure out a payroll debacle earlier. 41:12 I didnāt say I was good at it. [laughter] We had to bring in the finance bro. 41:18 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We did. He had to help a little bit. Which, to be fair, my degree is in 41:24 accounting. He is an accountant. What? Yeah. Lore. No. 41:31 I stand by, I rarely meet someone that actually does the job that they went to college for. 41:36 Yeah. Yeah. I donāt know anybody. Iāve told the story a million times about me not going to college. But like everyone I know, 41:44 I feel like other than maybe if someone had like a blanket business degree and then they work as a, 41:51 you know, have their own business or something. But other than that, the amount of accountants I meet that are doing something else, or someone that started out in nursing and now they like, 42:00 it just, no one ever does the same thing they think theyāre going to do when theyāre 18 to 20. No, no, not at all. Did you go to college? I forgot. 42:10 Yeah, I did four whole weeks. It was fun. [laughter] It was a great time. I dropped out. 42:19 I mean, I left. I had all Aās whenever I left, but I was like four weeks in is like youāve done, or I did the first semester. [laughter] It probably wasnāt four weeks. I did whatever the first 42:28 semester was until Christmas and then on Christmas break I was like, man, this is lame, man. This 42:33 is like the same thing I was doing in eighth, ninth, 10th grade. And I was in there for that, 42:38 you know, your standard, Iām in business degree, and it just wasnāt going anywhere. So I left and 42:44 spent all the money I had in my pocket to buy a drone and a camera. And thatās where it started. Nice. And here we are. 42:49 Here we are. Here we are. I like it. Yeah. Well, anyway, weāre about to have to go put some more horses out because 42:55 weāre using the arena right now for lots of turnout. Itās still That's All Folks 43:01 icy outside. Itās a little dangerous for the horses to go out. If you missed that video, by the time this is posted, itāll be up. Thereās a video of the yearlings and the cows going out 43:10 and itās pretty special. So go watch that. Hope yāall enjoyed. If you havenāt seen it, thereās new Running Springs merch. Oh, nice. Thereās Valentineās Day merch right now. Oh, 43:20 thereās so much stuff on the Katy Van Slyke store. So go to katyvanslyke.net for that. And check out the live streams if youāre interested in it. Weāve been doing it 43:29 quite a bit and we plan on doing more of it. And yeah, let us know what you would like to see in future Katching Up With Katie episodes or future YouTube videos. And weāll see you next week