Mel & Peg: Happily Ever After — Part 1! | Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: Hey, well, welcome back to Better halfy Hour.

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Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena.

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Speaker 3: Now we are here today.

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Speaker 1: With the lovely Happy couple, Meg.

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Speaker 2: Couple, name a couple of names.

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Speaker 1: Your names are very similar, Melan Peg, Welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Yay.

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Speaker 4: We're so happy to have you, guys, Megan and Melan Peg.

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Speaker 2: Mel and Peg, Meg or what is it the other way around? Pal? Not as good?

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Speaker 3: Not as good?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So before you hopped on, we were talking a little bit about Hi Mom.

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Speaker 4: Hi James, she's back speaking around.

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Speaker 1: Before you guys got on, we were talking a little bit about who we picked.

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Speaker 3: And Peg, you you were part. I picked you.

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Speaker 1: I picked you at the beginning, from the beginning.

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Speaker 2: You have a Joe has a really good read.

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Speaker 4: I feel like on the show, like when you're watching, I feel like And this is the first season in a really long time we didn't hear, like any rumblings of spoilers, so we were really kind of on our own every week trying to figure out how this this all ended.

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Speaker 5: But you know, Joe, you picked it right out of the limo though, because I've been listening to you guys, and you picked it right out of the limod hard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we actually, I actually really want we got to get into the limo. But before we do, how are we feeling? You guys are finally out in the open. How does it feel?

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Speaker 5: Feels great?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it feels you know, timely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Has it been a long journey to get here? I mean we've been where you have been, like the waiting to tell people and the secret keeping.

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Speaker 2: You must be so ready.

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Speaker 6: Well I haven't. I haven't told the soul. Really, my friends.

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Speaker 5: Are upset with me that I have your sons.

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Speaker 6: Well, my son's no, because they were on the show at the end. Yes, they but you know they were a little loose with their lips at the beginning, just by talking and I straightened them out. And but I haven't told a soul.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's so exciting, Peg, did you tell anyone?

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Speaker 5: Okay, No, you're not.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: You're lying, You're not going to see you. You can blame it on Mel Sun's It's.

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Speaker 5: Okay, good, that's right, that question. Oh and we got the commitment ring, which is absolutely beautiful.

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Speaker 2: It is gorgeous. Did you have a hard time picking it out?

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Speaker 6: Mel? No, they're all beautiful, but you know, that I think matched PEG's personality.

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Speaker 2: I love it. It's gorgeous.

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Speaker 4: So tell me about the commitment ring because you are wearing it and it obviously looks like an engagement ring. So are you gonna if you eventually get engaged, Mel, will you repropose?

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Speaker 3: Is this like?

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Speaker 2: Where are we at?

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Speaker 6: Well, that's to be seen, so we're not going to share anything right now moment, but you know, to be determined and to be seen.

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Speaker 1: So a commitment a commitment ring is essentially we are committing to getting engaged, and then an engagement ring.

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Speaker 3: Is committing to get married.

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Speaker 6: We're committed to each other right now, That's what it means.

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Speaker 4: So it'd almost be equivalent to like a promise ring, Like you're showing your commitment to Peg through this ring, and you're saying like, we are locked in on each other and we're going to see how this goes.

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Speaker 6: Correct.

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Speaker 2: If you do get engaged, you expect a new ring.

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Speaker 5: No, I love this ring? Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 2: This is absolutely it's gorgeous.

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Speaker 5: Do you love it?

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Speaker 1: I think Mel's gotta get your new ring. I think I think you should get in. Maybe you know what, Mel, Maybe you gotta get her like a nice necklace or something. You gotta get, you gotta, you gotta again.

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Speaker 6: Actually, we're traveling down this road together and we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, uh, Peg, When did you realize that it was potentially going to be you at the end what part of the season.

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Speaker 5: I honestly knew as soon as I got out of the mud bath.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I knew.

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Speaker 2: I felt it.

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Speaker 5: I felt it. I felt at a very deep level and an intuitive level, I really did. I just right out of it, and I even told one of the girls in the house, I said, oh my god, it's going to be me. And I was kind of actually taken back by it because I wasn't expecting it, You guys, I did not come here expecting it. I came here with an open heart, in an open mind, and you know, I just had to just be myself one hundred percent be myself. You love me, you hate me. But I wasn't expecting it. But as soon as I got out of that mud bath, I went back to the mansion and just my spirit just really talk to me. And actually I wrote it in my journal. I just said, it's going to be me, and I was just I was taken back by that. I really was. I was taken back because I didn't expect it at all. I did not expect this at all.

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Speaker 1: You guys, what did you actually expect? Because like when I went on the show, I went home right away, and I kind.

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Speaker 3: Of expected that.

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Speaker 1: But what did what did you really expect?

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Speaker 5: You know, honestly, I expected to have a really good experience and I expected to get to know him, because that's to me, that's how that's how my love evolves. A lot of people they jump in with both feet. My love does not evolve that way. I have to get to know somebody, I have to spend time with them. I had to like them before I love them. And so that's what I expected, honestly, just to see if he was datable and see if he was you know, uh, if he was a person that would fit into my life.

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Speaker 1: Oh cool guy, I mean you guys. Look you guys, you guys really do look really great together. Like looking at you both, you know you both have this Oh I say that it's not a light blue, but it's a it's kind of the same color blue.

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Speaker 3: And yeah it.

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Speaker 5: Works, Yeah it does, it does.

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Speaker 4: When you had that feeling of like I feel in my gut that it's going to be me.

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Speaker 2: After that point, did doubt ever creep.

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Speaker 4: In or worry that, you know, he has these other strong connections. You know, I might feel this way for him, but what if it doesn't end up being reciprocated.

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Speaker 5: There was one time in Tiga, and it was when he knocked on my door and I was really sick for about thirty six hours. I got sick in Antigua and I went to sleep for about thirty six hours and he came knocking on the door and he said, I need to talk to you. And at that moment, just for a split second, I was like, uh, oh, here it is because I know him now and he has enough respect and enough respect for me and enough honesty and enough integrity that he wouldn't have put me through that rose ceremony. And I know that about him now, So I thought that knock on the door was him coming to tell me, hey, look, I have a better connection with this other person, which I was willing to accept because when we're all except this journey, we all accept that it's like it might work and it might not work. You know, is that connection there or is that connection not there? So, just for that split second, I was like, well, he's got a better connection with Cindy than he does me. And that's okay. We're grown ass adults, and it's not that somebody's better or worse or any of that than the other person. It's just truly about that connection. Who has that best connection with each other? That's all it is. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, honestly, watching it when Mel was delivering you the news in your room that Cindy was no longer part of the journey, when he started, for a second, I.

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Speaker 2: Was like, is he freaking up with Pey to like that was the plan? Was that the plan? You were kind of pind of pull one over on her a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I wanted to make it seem like like, hey, I made a decision already, I gotta let you, you know, let you in on it. So I wanted to make sure that it came across that way.

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Speaker 2: You were messing with her.

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Speaker 6: I was messing with her. Yeah, for sure, it worked.

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Speaker 1: It worked because it like if we as a viewer, if we don't know.

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Speaker 6: Being background into it, everything, I go, you know, I'm gonna make this act like you know, it's over between us. Right, of course, I go she left, right, and then she got the whole face changed, yeah face.

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Speaker 5: When he was talking to me, right, I just I was very stoic, and I was like, because am I.

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Speaker 4: Just feel like you were digesting trying to be like, Okay, where is this going? Let me brace myself, like what's he about to say?

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Speaker 2: And well, you're dragging it out. You're taking as long as possible.

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Speaker 6: You know, you know, you know how much I like you, you know how much you know you mean to me, and how much fun we've had, and you know, I just want to be transparent with you. And I had the overnight last night and this like building up to like, but.

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Speaker 5: I was shocked.

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Speaker 6: Shocked.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.

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Speaker 1: We see we see sometimes on the show the Final the Final two, a person will send themselves home, and it it always leaves the final person somewhat questioning. Am I just? Am I the second choice? Which I don't think is the case in this scenario. But do you wish peg, do you wish Cindy didn't send herself home?

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Speaker 5: No? Because my truth is I think she knew that there was a better connection between mel and myself. I think She intuitively knew that and she did not want to put herself through that because I do. I saw that, I saw that face, and I felt it in her heart, and I knew our connection was so strong, and not a lot of people saw it in the house. The women in the house did not see it. Because it developed, it grew. I didn't come into the mansion going, oh, I want to get married. No, I didn't do that because for me, that love it grows. It's about like I said, you guys, it's the fireplace, not the fireworks, because the fireplace you can continually refuel it. And actually Mel feels the same way about it. It's like the reality is it takes time to fall in love, you guys, and it takes time to get to know somebody. And you know when we both we both have that same belief system.

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Speaker 7: Basically that might have been the connection as well, where you know, it wasn't like, oh, by the way, I'm in love with you after two weeks, because on the last week's episode, I say, oh, here is Cindy.

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Speaker 6: She's in love with me. Oh, and here's Peg She's not right. The stark difference, you know, it is a bright line and you know, because Cindy was saying, oh, I love you, I love you, and Peg was saying, you know, we're working on this, and that was my set all along too. I'm not going to fall in love with somebody, even if I thought I was. I got to check myself and say, you know, am I really I s got to give it time to see if my if my my my brain and my heart can catch up with my my hormones. Right, like, you might be in love, but I you got to wait a little bit here and check it out.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you also don't know if it's it's just situational like you are.

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Speaker 3: We are in this.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's somewhat of an experiment and you want to make sure that like it's for sure and it's just not like, yeah, the situation, but you know.

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Speaker 5: What, you guys, love is like, it's different for everybody. Everybody has their own idea of love. Everybody has their own preconceived idea of what that is and what that looks like, you know, and everybody has a right to that. It just so happens at him and I are on the exact same page when it comes to building a relationship. I mean, we're realists. We don't live in fantasy land, and we both realize it takes time, it really does, but we do have that real connection. And I knew it. I knew it. I knew it early on. It was so weird. I can't even explain it, but I just I felt it, and it scared me because I wasn't expecting it. I was like, holy shit, what is this? This is crazy. Especially when we went to oc Fair and at the case s in the Sunshine ban, I just realized. I'm like, oh, I'm in trouble because I was not expecting it. I did not go into this thing with I'm going to be married and I want to ring and I'm going to live happily ever after and this is it. I just came here. It was like, you know, let me check this out. Let me see what kind of a person he is. And I had to suspend judgment because we all know that podcast. You know, it wasn't the greatest podcast out there, but.

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Speaker 6: If you understand it, if you understood it was, it was okay.

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Speaker 5: But you know, but here's the thing. I suspended judgment because I knew that I had to get to know who he was not who what the podcast says, not what social media says, not what any of it. I needed to get to know who he was as a human being.

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Speaker 1: Was there both of you are saying, you know, we're realists and it takes time to know if we're in love.

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Speaker 3: Was there a point post.

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Speaker 1: Show, after the show for both of you that you were like, oh, this we made the right decision. This actually is love.

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Speaker 6: Well, I knew it earlier on right, That's why when it came down to it, that was Peg. It wasn't A. I had a crush on her from the first time I saw her, right, And it wasn't I didn't really see her in the bombsuit. Is when they it's like a little diversion because they were trying to make the bomb go off, and that you know, they they separated her and they got her changed, and I saw her. I didn't realize it was the same person that was in a bomb suit. And from that point on I had a crush on her. So yeah, you know, right right then I knew.

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Speaker 5: How about for you, Peg, I think the first time that I really knew is when we right out of the lima, when we sat down for a couple of minutes that first night at the mansion. I just felt it when we sat down and we looked at each other's eyes. It was just that connection right then and there, and it just took me back. But I knew that I needed to get to know him. I need to, like, Okay, great the connections there. I feel it. I know he feels it because it was just it' psych electric, it really was. And now now just to build on that foundation getting to know who he was and for him to get to know who I am. Do we fit in each other's lives because there's you know, uh, the word love is great, but you know it takes moretal It takes more than love to have a successful, sustainable relationship, and especially in our sixties, we both know that we've been through divorce, we've been through you know, the ups and downs of life, and realistically, we know that it's great to be in love, you guys, but you've got to have that firm foundation.

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Speaker 6: Everybody wants the word love attached to everything they do, especially on the show, but you can have a great relationship without saying it. It's actually how you how you act towards each other, right, And I knew that the way she was treating me on the show. I go, I know she likes me a lot, you know, without saying like, oh, by the way, I love you, I love you, I love you. Right. It starts with it like because you can let you can love somebody and not like him. You can have your right your crazy uncle. You go, I love the guy, but I really don't like the guy. Right, I love him, but I don't want to be around him. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well hopefully that doesn't happen with you in peg.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I'm an example of like and love.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 6: To show that.

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Speaker 5: I go.

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Speaker 6: It's not a word I used lightly. I don't have a lot of different meanings and connotations and expectations. So it's not something that I just started saying, like, oh, I've known you for two weeks and like I love you. It's like, come on, it's unrealistic in my world, it is anyway.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, But when you accepted the lead as the bachelor, knowing the show a little bit, were you worried that.

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Speaker 3: You may fall into that trap?

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Speaker 6: No, because I followed the show a lot earlier on like from on two thousand and two or three, I followed maybe for five six years, and then I had my kids and then I just fell off and then I actually didn't pick it up again at all. I just you know, bits and pieces because you'd see it. But I didn't know any of the characters, any of the leads, any of the best arras, none of that. And I only saw The Golden Bachelor when the girls got out of the limo with Gary, the only part I ever saw in that one. So I didn't know about the show. Really I did, and that's you know, I learned about it after I was really casted for it. You know, I got more in depth. I started looking at the clips and things, things of that sort to get more familiar with it. So no, no, okay, hey.

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Speaker 2: How familiar were you with the show before you went on?

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Speaker 5: I love Tristan's season. I think the only season I've ever watched was Tristan's and Ryan and I loved that season. And it's so funny because we all thought she was going to choose the other person, and she chose the firefighter.

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Speaker 1: So shout out.

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Speaker 5: To Tristan and Ryan Man. You know, it's the same thing. You know, here's the thing. It's like we both were looking for that connection. Now what we do with that connection moving forward is up to us how we want to you know, how we want to go about it, what we want to call it. But we were both looking for that connection, and then what we decided moving forward to do with it, it's what we're going to decide together. You know. It's really cool, you guys, meeting in your sixties is really cool because you get to do what you want to do when you want to do it, and you get to write your own story. We get to write our own love story, and that's fun. It's not going to be like anybody else's love story. It's going to be our love story and we get to write it. Yeah, along, it can be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: It is, Okay, So let's let's take it back to the final episode.

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Speaker 3: PEG. What was it like to finally meet Mel's family.

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Speaker 5: Oh, my gosh, I like, adore his boys. They are hilarious, they're they're great. I adore his boys are They're handsome, and they're smart, and they're charismatic, and I just it was really fun to meet them because I was really I'm really comfortable with the guys, you know, working in the fire department, you guys for twenty five years. With all the guys, it's just like, yes, you know, I'm with my people, you know, yeah, you know, little smart asses, and I just I love them. They're so cool. And then Diane, of course, his best one of his very good friends. I just loved her to death, you know. So it was great.

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Speaker 2: We saw you did the word association game with his boys. Tell us how that went.

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Speaker 5: It was good because you know what I knew, you guys, I knew by doing that little word association game with them, I was going to learn more about him because they have to think on their feet, you know, and then write whatever came to their mind. Right away. Was telling me a little bit more about how they view their father, you know, what's their perception of their dad. And I got a lot of good information out of them. Sneaky, sneaky, sneaky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fine.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen anyone do something of that sort out a family visit or a hometown.

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Speaker 6: I didn't see it, so my boys told me about it, but they couldn't articulate exactly what it was, so I'm curious to see it as well.

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Speaker 1: They were great. My brother and I would have been we would have went after our dad.

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Speaker 5: It just came to me, you know, and then you know, it's just it was really good because I knew I needed to get some information out of them, but you know, they're there eighteen and twenty years old, so I just like, Okay, how can we make this fun and how can I get the information I need out of them without knowing that that's what I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: What did you learn from the game?

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, that he's a great guy, Because how I learned it's their relationship with their dad, and that's what I needed to see. How is your relationship with your dad? And they gave it, gave me the answers that I was looking for. You know, they love their dad, They respect their dad, they look up to their dad, and he's been a great father to the boys. I mean, just a really good father. No, you really have you know, I mean, and.

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Speaker 4: You can see that just in that interaction, the way they were speaking about bal through the game event and the.

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Speaker 2: Words they were using to describe him. It was a really sweet moment.

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Speaker 6: Nol.

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Speaker 3: What was it like seeing Peg with your family?

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Speaker 6: Great? Because I know how Peg is and she's cool with kids, right and she's the only person on the show that asked me about my boys, like really, only one, Like, hey, that's actually she said that. You know, that's another reason why, just more validation of how much that you know, I was making the right decision, but she was asking me, how are you? How are your boys? You know, what are their names? Or how old are they? What do they do? You know, I want to meet him, I you know, I want to do stuff with them. So and that was it was honest, because you know what, she kept on asking me more and more questions about it, so I knew that when she met them and vice versa, they're going to have a good time. And she still asked me about even this morning. Hey, how you boys doing. What are they doing? You know, how school? How's the girlfriends? You know, that kind of stuff. So that meant a lot to me, especially not so much in my decision, but it just validated my decision even more.

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Speaker 1: Peg.

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Speaker 4: This is a little off topic of the Hometown Day, but I'm just so interested in this because you mentioned, you know, you worked in the fire department, you worked on the bonds, while you worked in a very male dominated fee field for most of your life. What was it like kind of being one of the few women in your career for so long and then going into a house with all women kind of like the complete opposite experience.

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Speaker 5: It was hard. Yeah, I vet so hard, you guys. And I love these women. They're smart, they're intelligent, they're beautiful, they're articulate. There I really I really love them. But it was hard for me. It was really really hard because, uh just I mean, can you guys imagine and you guys saw in hometown's twenty five guys or to thirty guys at a firehouse for twenty five years working with them, and then I'm thrust it into a house of all these women, just the opposite. You know, women can be catty, women can be jealous, women can be you know, they could be a lot of different things. And I wasn't used to that. I'm not and I'm very protective. And when you know, I really love somebody or I let's somebody into my life, I become very very protective. And I became very protective of the women in the house and they don't even know it. I was advocating for them as a whole, and they didn't even know it. And that's okay. But I became very I was like very protective over them because you know, I love them all dearly. You know, we're all there, and so it was different. It was really really different, and I had I learned a lot. I really did. I learned a lot.

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, that must be wild, Like for however many years you're adapting to this world and then thrown into the complete opposite of what you're used to and having to adapt to that.

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Speaker 5: It was crazy for me. It was really it was a difficult situation. It really was, because I'm like, all right, I don't even know how to I honestly, I don't. I didn't even know how to navigate through it, you know. And I got a couple of little, you know, tips with some of the girls, and it's just because I don't have a lot of experience, you know, dealing with that, you know. Cindy at one time told me I needed to have more feathers, and I looked at her and I'm like, what does that mean. I don't even know what that means. Cindy, Please help me here, because I'm very direct and I'm very honest, and people either, you know, they'll celebrate that or they'll stay away from that. You know, Terry, I we connected right away, and she's more like me. We have that kind of like tough exterior and we say what we mean, and we mean what we say, you know, and some people like it and some people don't.

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Speaker 1: So what does that mean though?

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Speaker 3: The feathers? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know either. Softer soff okay, I see, I see.

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Speaker 5: And you know what into into her? You know into her statement? She raised girls right, Yes, she's Cindy's very soft. She really is. I'm a pickly little porn or not porn, but right. And I raised my daughter that way, as you guys could tell at hometowns. We're very direct, we're very honest. You know, it was my daughter and myself. I raised her by myself after my divorce. You know, he stepped out on the marriage. You know, he found somebody else and it was just her and I and we I became very protective over her. So it was her and I just together, you know, navigating through life. And you guys know life's difficult. Life is not easy, man. So I always had to have my armor up, not only to protect myself, but to protect her as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's also very protective of you. That conversation that she did have with you, mel what what was your take on it?

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Speaker 6: But you know, talking to my friend an attorney, because now you've been an attorney more longer than you've been a football player. Right, So I've done a million depositions. I've been deposed, I've asked questions, I've been you know, I've had had clients, so I'm used to the adversarial role. Right. The main thing you gotta do is listen and answer the question. Posed, don't add anything, right, So if they're coming on to you tough, okay, I'm okay with it. But you just answer the question this post, you don't add anything else. So it might have been looked difficult. But it really wasn't that difficult because I've been in those situations all the time. But you know, she was direct and I appreciated it. She was protective of her mom, and she wanted no questions I haven't answered, and somebody's you know, I was just being truthful with her. I go, I, you know, I'm not in love with your mother. Right, We're like a month into it, So, I mean it might have looked tough, and coming off tough. But those are the honest answers. And all I could do be is honest with everybody on the show and not mislead them or you know, give them head fakes, misdirectum and give them false hopes. I just never did that, So I was honest with myself and honest with them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I liked that conversation because I thought it really showcased the love and protectiveness that your daughter feels for you, Peg, and I respected that she wasn't afraid to make the most of the time she had with Melan, ask direct questions and continue asking kind of every question she felt she needed to get her answers. What did you learn about Peg or PEG's daughter during that conversation, mal Well.

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Speaker 6: Peg Y told me that you know, she was direct and you know, full of life, just like her mom. Right, So I was thinking I was talking to her mom. Like like they said, with the word association game, you get a lot out of the kids of the mom. So I'm looking, I go this nothing was rehearsed, right, We didn't have We didn't have any time to go in there and go by the way you're going to meet him, And this is what he's like, and here's the questions. He was like, take him, sit him down, take him, sit him down. Talk. So it was it was basically all extemporaneous, all you know, ad lib questions. So whatever you came to your mind, you asked. So my thing was to be direct and be honest, and so in the exactly way the way her mom was honest and direct. That's what I got from it. I go, they're they're the same, like they're twins, right, and we.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, No, do one thing about Dakota that I and I admire this about my daughter. She's fearless and I'm proud to be that mom that raised her that way because she nobody intimidates her, nobody on this planet. She just you know, and she's fearless and she's uh. I know one thing as a mom, because as you know, as mothers and fathers, we just want to know that our children are always going to be okay, especially when we leave this planet. And I know one thing about her, she's always going to be.

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Speaker 6: And I like the direct questions, but answer them honestly. So when you when you walk away and you look at it, go because that guy's honest, be guys, you know you don't live with your mom. No, no, I'm not. I'm not there yet, right, that's an honest answer, because I wasn't. You know, some people goes, well, yeah I am. Yeah, It's like, no, I wasn't. I wasn't going to, you know, bullshit her, right. I was gonna tell her that the truth and how I felt, and she and she deserved that answer, and I gave it to her. And so I yea, it's like her mom, just straightforward and direct.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I think this is a perfect place the end the first part. Make sure you guys tune in for Part two with Peg and Mel.

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Speaker 2: We will have new and exclusive interviews every single week. We are so excited to share part two of our interview.

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Speaker 6: With you guys.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening. Bye