2025-11-26- KSR - Hour 2

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KSR is on the road in Columbia, KY at Don Franklin Ford on Thanksgiving Eve talking about Kentucky football and college football changes

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Speaker 2: Quarterback It is Kentucky Sports Radio Here live in Columbia, Kentucky and a Dare County Don Franklin Ford. Give me some Dare County. By the way, Don Franklin Ford, I've got these little things to read. How about this one? Uh? Are you ready for rough stuff?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: All right, all right? What you mean you said? Hot young running back too easily? Blue collar dollars meet off road grit at the Franklin Truck League. Only at Don Franklin Auto. You're pretty good at this. Usually tell me. Uh, people from Adare County, Columbia athletes or or citizens.

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Speaker 4: The best athletes I can think of. A Steve Hamilton ended up pitching for the New York Yankees.

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Speaker 2: I know him.

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Speaker 4: He was head baseball coach at Moorhead State.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: If I'm not mistake, Well they had Connor Lloyd. He just took the Sweet Deare County Sweet sixteen. He's playing now at South Alabama, I think right now. And if I is Lance Burton from here.

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Speaker 2: And you're gonna add him Lance Burton the magician. Really I didn't know that. Well.

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Speaker 3: Good, he practiced his magic right out side of Columbia, maybe over Lindsay Wilson Pollos.

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Speaker 2: Ok.

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Speaker 4: Wow, well good, well, right, I had a course famous golfer Chase Carpenter's here something, Yes.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yes, who who I think it can shoot eighty five at any given point? All right, so let's talk for a second couple non sports stories. Shan and I'll start with you. Have you heard the controversy about campbell Soup? No, I mean if you all have ever had a can of Campbell soup? Course, yeah, everybody is. The Campbell's Soup CEO is under fire. Would you like to know why? Yes? He was recorded on tape by one of his employees who was suing him for something, recorded saying two things. One, everybody that eats Campbell's soup is poor, and then number two saying I would never eat our I would never eat our chicken. It comes from a three D printer.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Well, this may be the last time I read Campbell's Chick a Noodle soup.

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Speaker 2: Where vice it was somebody high up, it was not. I may be wrong about CEO. Maybe it was executive vice prayer, somebody high up. So she sued the company for something else. But as part of the evidence that came out, Campbell Soup released a statement that said, if that's true, if that's real, it's obviously not what it's not what we think. I would hope it's not what you think. But he's still not been fired yet the person that did it. What do you think about?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: First of all, do you agree with his characterization of Campbell's soup? It's chicken, and it's people.

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Speaker 3: And it's three D printed. Is the biggest thing that came from?

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Speaker 2: What does that even mean? How do you three D print?

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Speaker 3: I didn't know you could three D print food. Is this something that's going on that I hope not? Maybe it's not even really food. I think that's the last time I probably eat that. I can't believe this guy still has a job. And why would you say that out loud? You know you could like a one on one I don't care. He still said it out loud to somebody, you know that it could be recorded. That was a really stupid move, Bryan.

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Speaker 4: I mean, growing up, when you got sick, you had a can of Campbell's Chicken noodle soup. It was kind of all of our childhood growing up. And for this guy to be a vice president see or whatever he's representing that company.

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Speaker 2: I don't care. If you're in a one on one conversation, you still got to believe it is a legend. He's but the tape she she brought it up, said there's a tape. Wow, yeah, but so uh, I mean it is worth noting. I'm just telling you the story. I didn't hear it. They don't lie well, I mean, be careful saying that as we get into the AI world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're guaranteed humans. I heard the promo of today.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I disagree with their product is for pores. I think everyone has had Campbell soup.

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Speaker 2: Campbell did until the until I thought their chicken maybe from a printer.

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Speaker 5: That being said, as much as I love that chicken noodle soup, I've always wondered what mystery meat I'm eating when I have that that.

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Speaker 2: Is not chicken.

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Speaker 3: Outside of chicken noodle soup, what is it like cream of mushroom? They had that's good, But you know, chicken noodle was the only one I ever really had.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of things in cans, I am told that yesterday at the iHeart Thanksgiving lunch, which I had to miss due to uh do to the funeral. I am told that Shannon for the pot luck, brought one can of unopened green beans.

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Speaker 3: That's true, that's a lot more effort than I usually put into it. Usually I only bring my appetite.

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Speaker 2: So you didn't even open the can. Why don't you just set the can one.

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Speaker 3: That way you get you know, it's a can good. They said, bring a can good and you can you can eat at the iHeart.

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Speaker 2: Oh, so what can good was for? Like charity? It wasn't, well, actually eat, It wasn't for the people.

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Speaker 3: It was for the people. I just here's the thing. They had two other dishes full of green beans, and I said, why do you need my green beans? We already have two dishes of green beans.

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Speaker 2: But you just know that you didn't know that before you got there.

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Speaker 3: No, but I just wanted to show that there was an effort there, that I did bring something.

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Speaker 2: But is that really an effort to bring just an unopened mister?

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Speaker 3: Don't act like you've never showed up the Thanksgiving dinner and you didn't bring anything either in years past. I know you didn't.

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Speaker 2: But see, I would argue that bringing nothing drew is better than bringing an unopened like a literally a can of green What are they supposed to even do with what?

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Speaker 3: There was no can opener? It's not my fault. Somebody had a can opener. I could open them up, put them in the microwave. Boom, we got green beans.

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Speaker 2: How much side with you? If you don't bring anything, you can act surprise that it's done.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I didn't know I was supposed to bring you all my I'm sorry. Do you mind if I part six? But you actually like thought it out and still pull you.

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Speaker 3: Don't want to eat anything I cook. I can promise you that I was actually doing everybody a favor. You should be thinking me.

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Speaker 2: I'm really a he that worked hard broad dishes. I genuinely thought, in all my days of hearing potluck meals, Ryan bringing an unopened can of green beans was the worst contribution I've ever heard that it was.

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Speaker 3: It was pot bad luck for them. They didn't get any green beans for me.

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Speaker 4: And we can all can visualize it, Shan walking down the hallway.

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Speaker 3: All right, I got my side dish.

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Speaker 2: Put it on the table, Load me up, where's my plate?

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Speaker 3: It's all good, I'm good. We had had plenty of food, like there were so many leftovers. Why contribute to more food being thrown away?

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Speaker 2: What did you let someone else do it? Did you take the can home? No, it's done, so now somebody has to deal with.

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Speaker 3: It's probably right there with Rick. Rick is that can still there?

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Speaker 2: Still right here?

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Speaker 3: So if you get hungry, Rick, there's some green beans.

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Speaker 2: Rick. Yeah, I was with me. That's your problem. Rick. Out of curiosity? What did you bring to the meal?

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Speaker 1: I wasn't able to make it, so I didn't bring anything.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's better contribution than what Shannon, Uh than what Shannon did. Second, did you hear about what happened Ryan at Arizona State University? Uh? Last weekend? Tell me about it. So they went to a bar at Arizona State that is known for letting in underage kids, like kids under twenty one to be able to drink, and the police showed up, and you know sometimes they'll do this to like take the fake id's or whatever. The Tempe, Arizona police went further. They arrested two hundred and forty nine students at once for drinking underage. There are great pictures online of all of these students just sitting there crying. They end up releasing all of them, but they all got they all got booked. I think they got process and arrested. I don't know if they just like brought buses and took them all to I don't know how literally they got all of them to the thing, but they essentially arrested the entire bar. The bar owner gave a statement where he was like, this is ridiculous. How am I supposed to keep this bar open if people know that two hundred and fifty people get arrested. And I mean my answer to him would be, don't let in two hundred and fifty people who are underage. But what do you make of two hundred and fifty people being arrested at the same bar at the same time for underage drinking?

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Speaker 4: You know, there's always that one bar you can kind of sneak in, but somebody to let two hundred and fifty people in on one nice The bouncer Harris checking those IDs must be blind. He's not doing his job out there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I blame him, or they don't even try. But what do you what do you think of that?

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Speaker 5: I saw the video. It's madness. How they just do that big bust and get everybody.

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Speaker 2: H How did did you see? I never saw. How did they take him to the jay?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I saw a lot of guys with like the zip ties. I guess I'm just going around and slapping them on everybody.

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Speaker 4: It's all of them in the back of the paddywagon.

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Speaker 3: Link let's go. How do you keep that bar open? I mean it has to shut down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, two hundred and forty nine's a lot. I mean that's yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's one thing to let one or two slide through.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot. Well, I do think you will have a hard time getting the crowd going forward. Who's up next?

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Speaker 1: Johnny Fersachi is up next?

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Speaker 2: Johnny Versachi? It's Kentucky Louisville week. I expected to hear from you. What's up? You know, man, Vince Marrow is dead to me? Hey, what do you mean he's dead to you? He's like he gave a lot of years here are you, like, are you completely just he's done?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you can't. You can't go Littleville. I'm what I'm here to tell you is Stuke's is going into that half empty peak seat hellscape on Saturday and put Brown firmly on the hot seat.

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Speaker 2: Well that's a good question, Johnny. About attendance. I mean, I actually think this might be a sad attendance at noon. Neither team's fan base really wants to go. You know, I'm with you. I actually think it could be bad. I appreciate the call they you know Brom. I don't think Brom's on the hot seat, Ryan, But like, if he were to lose this game and they finished the season with four straight losses and all their team quits, it would not be good for Jeffery.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they've lost three in a row, and you're right if they show up and quit and don't give effort, kind of like what we did last year to them. His name is still out there for like Penn State, like some other jobs. He may lose that opportunity.

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Speaker 2: And one of their top recruits is from the city of Louisville. Grew up a Louisville fan from Saint X and just decommitted from the school. I'm the City of Louisville, which you know, right, Drew. That's kind of that's kind of wild.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Mary Flippmas on that commitment. His parents were Louisville season ticket holders for a long time, might still be. So that's a tough look for him. People are mad when he went and got Miller Moss. There are a lot of people like, this guy's not good. Why are we doing this? I guess he thought he could turn him into something that's been a big disappointment. I'm not two in tune with how Louisville fans feel, but it seems like they're really starting to turn a little bit or sour on Bram at least for a year.

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Speaker 2: Can we talk about something Ryan that I just want to throw out there? Throw it, you know. I don't want to be no bad mojo. It's Louisville Week, but this is the last show we're doing before the game on Saturday until the pregame show. I'm hearing maybe through the grapevine that there were some people that didn't love Mark Stoops coming out and saying cut her bowl. He's one hundred percent back. I mean I think that. I think he is very very likely back, but maybe some people didn't like putting those words into his mouth. And I think it's very interesting that yesterday they did the offensive players press conference before the Louisville game, and virtually every time they do one of these, understandably the quarterback speaks. The quarterback was not brought out yesterday for the Kentucky Louisville pregame Offensive Players Press Conference. You think there's anything to my the rumblings we said this on the show.

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Speaker 4: I think it was really unfair to cut her kind of throw him under the bus like that. So now all the pressure's on him if something happens and maybe he doesn't come back. I mean, we're just gonna well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's gonna be back, but if he doesn't come back, Drew Yep, Mark Stoops really just threw him under the bus by saying that, because it's gonna look like he changed, even though he didn't say anything. I think that was a huge mistake. And I'm gonna tell you, whatever happens, that's why he wasn't at that press conference. Definitely, And and and I like Mark that was that he shouldn't have done that in my opinion, what do you think? Yeah, and yesterday should have been the day for Bowley? Was it not? Last year?

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Speaker 5: His first career start was Louisville, he was gone by halftime, had his worst game ever. I mean, this is a redemption week for him. He's the reason whatever you think of the year, he's the reason at least flipped to be somewhat positive the last few weeks. I mean, that should have been the guy at the podium yesterday. But it's obvious that that rattled some some feather.

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Speaker 2: Footway or another. And if counter Bowley had said Shannon, I'm coming back, feel free to say it, coach, then that's fine, right, And and I guess there's a chance he said that, but I kind of heard maybe that's not what happened that, you know. And if it's not what happened, if you were his parents or you were him, would you be frustrated?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, if I didn't say that to him, and not only say it to him, but let's say, let's say he did say yeah, I'm coming back, but say I don't want you to say that publicly yet, and then Stoops did. That's a bad look. So yeah, I don't really know what you gain if you're Mark Stoops and saying that cutter ball.

00:14:08
Speaker 2: I know what you gain. You get people off your back for a minute. That's what it was about. Yeah, I mean that's why I did it. Yeah I did it.

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Speaker 3: Either way, Well, it's still a bad look if you're doing it just for that, if you're using another player to get people off your back, that's still a bad look.

00:14:21
Speaker 2: I think. For I totally agree, but Ryan don't you think that's probably why I did it.

00:14:24
Speaker 4: I think that's exactly why he did it. Look, I'm my quarterback is coming back. He said he was gonna, you know, come back for another year, so I am too.

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Speaker 3: We don't know if he's kept. We don't know if Stoops is coming back next year, and he.

00:14:34
Speaker 2: No I mean Stoops may know or may think.

00:14:38
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he may think he knows. It may not be his decision.

00:14:41
Speaker 4: If you're needs bull back, if he's back, If you're Cutter and you're meeting with your head coach the week before the Louisville game, what are you gonna say when he asked to talk to you? Guys are talking like no coach, I'm thinking about sports after next year.

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Speaker 2: I would say this. The worst possible scenario for UK football I could imagine is Mark Stoops coming back and Cutter Bowie transfer. That would be the worst. Mark Stoops coming back with Cutter Bowlie. It is what it is. Some of us think that should happen. Some of us should Cutter Bowley coming back. No Mark Stoops or no Cutter or no Mark Stoops, all of those can work. But Mark coming back when no Cutter drew this fan base will be not happy.

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Speaker 5: And you gotta think, you know, I don't love the young offense as much as Ryan. I'm not gonna call him young and hot and start sweating talking about him here, even though you are cooking there for a minute.

00:15:36
Speaker 2: But a lot of.

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Speaker 5: Those guys that we like that are a big part of the future are Bowie guys, Gilmore Rodriguez. Oh, and I kind of see it as if he comes back, they come back.

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Speaker 2: But if he were to leave, there's a lot there's a lot of people that tell you Willie Rodriguez, Cutter Bowley are like, whatever happens, they're doing it together.

00:15:53
Speaker 5: And so that's that's a big one. That's how it was with the three of them in high school. Were very close before they even got to campus.

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Speaker 2: You can enter Commonwealth Causes dot org. That's Commonwealth Causes dot org for the big bourbon raffle every month. Done with Commonwealth causes. We'll take a break of me. Right back here, Don Franklin, Ford's KSR work, Go back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live, Don Franklin Auto A five nine two twenty two eighty seven. Let's go through a couple of scheduled things real quick. The pregame show today starts at four point thirty Eastern. Game is at seven o'clock. It'll be at Ksbar. Come on out and join us before the game. You can come watch the game at the bar as well. If you got your family home from Thanksgiving, you can get out of the house for a little bit go watch the game. I'll have some tickets to give away during the pregame show as well. And then fast forward to Saturday. Our pregame show will be at nine am. Okay for Kentucky Louisville, so it'll be at nine am, So keep that in mind. For Saturday. I'm gonna have you all do the legal question. Are you ready this is not what the law is. What would it be if you could decide it? Okay, there's an election in Tennessee next week for Congress. It's next Tuesday, okay, and the election is in a district that's very pro Trump. But for whatever reason, this election is going to be close. It's a special election for Congress, so both sides are really mobilizing for it. The Republican candidate, one of the groups supporting him, sent out election flyers this week that acted like they were for the Democrat but said go vote, and then gave a date to a week later. So the election was like the it's gonna be like the fourth and it said if you want to vote for whatever the Democrat's name was, come vote on the eleventh. Now here's my question for you. It is unclear. I won't go into the law, but it's unclear whether that's legal. It's not certain that it's illegal, but it's also not certain that it's legal. So here's my question for you, is, if you were in charge, do you think sending out intentionally, sending out the wrong date to vote and acting like it was your opponent that did it should be legal.

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Speaker 3: Shit, Yeah, it should be illegal. You should be able to do that. That's called gamesmanship. If you don't know what election day is, that is on you for being a bad citizen. You should know when election day is. You know, you don't go vote on the eleventh for election day, So it should be legal.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Do you remember when we talked to Ryan before every election about who he's gonna vote for. Yeah, you would probably believe that, fly, wouldn't you.

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Speaker 4: A lot of the things I vote on what I get in the mail and what sign I see out in the yard. So if I get something in the mail tells me it's on eleventh, I think it's on the eleven, then you're the target demo.

00:19:13
Speaker 2: This is the target demo right here.

00:19:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, a budget buffoons.

00:19:19
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying. That's election fraud.

00:19:21
Speaker 4: They're trying to fraudulently, you know, create a situation where I think it's the wrong day.

00:19:26
Speaker 2: That's fraud. Okay, So Shannon is legal, Ryan is illegal. So I will let the final vote come to Frank. Is this illegal or illegal?

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Speaker 5: We don't need Frank Drew answer this one. This is easy. I'm with Shannon. If you can't figure out election down on your own, I'd rather you not vote anyway. Yeah, Like if you're falling for a flyer, I mean, that's on you. So I think it's a great tactic.

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Speaker 2: Actually all right, so I will I lean towards you all with one exception. I think what would make it make me make it illegal is that he acted like the other guy sent it right, Like if he just so he he literally acted like he was the other person. And that's the part I don't like. Like telling the wrong date, I'm kind of with you. Yeah, if you don't know what the date is, that's on you. But to act like for me to go Ryan Lemmon says it's this date and it's me that's saying it. That's the part that I think is kind of fraudile.

00:20:23
Speaker 3: So that the person I potentially could vote for doesn't even know the election date in this and.

00:20:27
Speaker 2: You're basically line and you're basically so I would say, Now, if you just sent it generically, it just said remember to go vote, and you had that date, then I'm fine with it.

00:20:36
Speaker 3: We live in a world of AI where you got to like, you know, make sure that you know it's legit when you look at something, and that's your responsible.

00:20:43
Speaker 2: Literally tell the story. This was the person that I thought this was. It would happen to you.

00:20:49
Speaker 4: I make up my mind who I'm voting for as I drive to the polling place.

00:20:53
Speaker 2: You acknowledge it's how many signs you see?

00:20:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you would in question why you're voting a week later after election day.

00:20:59
Speaker 4: I guess so I would pull up when nothing's there. I think I might realize.

00:21:03
Speaker 2: Well, but I mean the election would have finished a week before. Presumably you would have seen that it was over. He would have heard on the pre show who won? Whoa you like that? Who's up next? Go ahead? Sad?

00:21:19
Speaker 8: Hey guys, Hey guys, how you doing?

00:21:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, dont remember? We just just go yes, okay.

00:21:28
Speaker 8: Uh. My thing you guys were talking about earlier about like the power forward session for basketball, Kim Williams, I think andre Yellovitch needs to get more run at that spot.

00:21:39
Speaker 2: And then what do you think? What do you think about that? Go ahead? Finish what you're saying.

00:21:45
Speaker 8: Yeah, And also you guys were talking about Jaden Quiton and Jalen low would hope with all of our issues. Jalen Lowe last year was a top ten point guard last year when it came to pick and rolls and we ran, so MANI pick and rolls and we need to get back to some of the zoomc See.

00:22:03
Speaker 2: You don't have to convince me on Jalen Low. I mean to me, if Jalen Low doesn't come back, I mean, I'm gonna enjoy the season and hope the good things happen, but my chances of this being a special year go way down if we lose Jayalen Low. What about Yellovich at the four? Drew, I mean, uh, I appreciate the call. What about Yellovich at the four?

00:22:20
Speaker 5: I've been predicting for two weeks his breakthrough is coming. I'm a little behind, but I want to see a lot more of him. And the caller said he needs to get more run. I think he's running a lot in practice. He was touching the top of the building where we were at both practices. Pope called him out Saturday by name, said he's gonna be running in practice. So he's still getting the hang of a lot of things. He was interviewed yesterday and said, I'm literally learning and getting better each day as he's getting acclimated everything. So I'm still counting on there being more there, and tonight's the good Night's get him an opportunity.

00:22:47
Speaker 2: Here's what I'm excited about, Yellovich when I watch big Z play, and I mean, it's just natural we compare him because same country, right. I never really felt like big Z was ever going to be one hundred percent comfortable on the court, and even now the he I'll know he's not starting like it's but Yellovich, you can see it right like he can slide his feet. You can see him playing defense at this level and not looking out of place. So I do think that's a possibility. It can work.

00:23:12
Speaker 4: He's much better on than devinsitve vand I think the most of us thought he was guarding the one a couple times and did a good jobb stand in front of the guy.

00:23:18
Speaker 2: He may not shoot as well as say big Z did, but in terms of being able to play on defense, I actually think he's got a lot more potential in that regard. We'll take a break and be right back here at Don Franklin in Columbia's KSR. Welcome back, It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Here at Don Franklin, Ford and Columbia. Don Franklin, as I said, if you buy a vehicle here at Don Franklin, Columbia today, two years of free maintenance today if you do it. So, any of you here, if you're in the area, come on and join us. I have to tell you how much I love Ryan Lemon. This is an example why I love Ryan Limit. We're sitting there watching the game last night at the bar, and Ryan Limon goes, he shows me his phone and he goes, look who just texted me? And so of course I would think it would be like a person, you know, somebody knows, and it was this text that said, Hi, I'm Senator Mark Kelly, blah blah blah, Donald Trump's coming after me, blah blah blah blah blah, send money here. But the way Ryan said it acted like he thought he had literally just texted me like his senator in Arizona, Like, hey, you know who I should ask for help, Ryan Limit. And then so you just came in here this morning and he just looked at me and he goes, you know that guy that texted me. He was on Jimmy Kimmel last night. And I was like, Ryan, it's like the head news story in America right now, Like it's the number one news story. Why are you so surprised? And I love that about you. I love this sort of your head's like this guy texted me and now he's on TV. I like that about you. You just you're so happy. That makes me happy. I had never heard of this guy. I knew nothing about the story. After I get the text you're telling me about him. He's on Jimmy Kimmel. It's the lead news story this morning on all the news reports. Like, you never heard of this guy? I really must like you. Yeah, you may send me another text today. It definitely was not a bot or anything. Who's definitely not a generic text. This was he Uh, way too many words in that text, doll.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of words. I didn't get through all of it.

00:25:27
Speaker 3: Did you donate? Oh no, Oh okay.

00:25:30
Speaker 2: I streamed a game or anything? Question? If he had streamed a game, I'm donating, that's uh Saturday. Is Lane Kiffin a old miss rebel? Is he an LSU Tiger? Or is he a Florida Gator?

00:25:47
Speaker 3: Old Miss Rebel? I think he stays where he's at right there. I think that's a good spot where it's not too much pressure. But it's still a good program. I think he stays where he is, true.

00:25:55
Speaker 5: I'm really torn. I could see him staying, but LSU has put so much money out there. I will lean LSU. But if I were him, I would really consider stand put, just because the expectations in each place.

00:26:06
Speaker 4: I lean LSU two fifteen million. They just recently won a national title. He got a chance to win one when you go over there. I don't know if they can get over the hump at Old Miss. He's got him in the playoff, but can you win a national title? He can at LSU. I think he's going there.

00:26:20
Speaker 2: I think he's going to LSU too. I think if he was, if he was gonna stay, I think the comments from the ad about let's get through the egg bowl, et cetera. So all right, so let's say the three of us are correct and he goes to LSU. Does he coach Old Miss through the playoff? I would hope?

00:26:38
Speaker 3: So, I mean, but you would you want him? Yeah, he's still the guy who got you there.

00:26:42
Speaker 2: Okay, so you would want him to coach your team all the way through the Yes, Okay, definitely.

00:26:46
Speaker 5: He can't go to LSU to win a national championship when he's literally coaching for a national championship. Now, I mean it's unlikely, but he could have one in a couple months at Old Miss, So he he couldn't leave them in the playoff if they're not If they fall out of the playoff and they're just in a regular bowl, maybe, but not.

00:26:59
Speaker 2: Mis State though they're gonna be in the playoff, I think he can't walk away from the opportunity to win one there.

00:27:04
Speaker 4: Drew's exactly right. You got to see this through. It's gonna be tough because, like he's gonna be trying to recruit what lot at LSU. He may have a lot of sleepless nights, but it's you made the bed man, now you gotta lie in it right now.

00:27:14
Speaker 2: It's projected that Old Miss would host a playoff game at in Oxford when they announce his name if he is going to LSU. Will the crowd cheer if hosts a playoff game after he's already announced he's going to.

00:27:31
Speaker 3: Ls She's a great question and again another awkward situation. I could see there being a good mix of both. I think some fans would cheer him because they appreciate the fact that they're in the play.

00:27:41
Speaker 2: First time they've been in this situation since nineteen sixty or something.

00:27:45
Speaker 3: I could also see the other end of the spectrum where there's fans that are upset that he's leaving.

00:27:49
Speaker 2: Would you cheer him if you were there, like if this situation, would you go all right, let's go? Yeah?

00:27:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.

00:27:56
Speaker 2: Mark Stoops gets us to a playoff game, but announces before the game he's gonna go coach at Ohio State next year. Are you cheering? Yeah? Absolutely, Yeah, definitely they got a cheer for him. I mean, if we didn't cheer Arkansas, we didn't cheer for.

00:28:10
Speaker 3: Col then he lost the first round.

00:28:12
Speaker 2: Yeah. In fact, he's a national championship.

00:28:15
Speaker 3: We forgot about that. It was a long time ago.

00:28:17
Speaker 2: He didn't leave actively while it's in front of him. That's true, he didn't leave. You still have the goal of the interview. He didn't leave like right after he won a national championship. This is like the peak of Wayne Kiffing.

00:28:27
Speaker 5: He left off that after that awkward Mitch Barnhart interview, which is also on all list.

00:28:31
Speaker 4: If our football coach gets us to the playoffs, he can go wherever he wants, and I'm gonna pat him on the back and kiss him on the cheek and say good luck.

00:28:39
Speaker 3: Go out there, go do it, all right?

00:28:41
Speaker 2: So? Uh so, so you all we think the l s U you think? O? Miss? Yes? Yeah, Well we'll find out who's next. Carl is up next, Carl? Go ahead, Carl.

00:28:52
Speaker 9: Yeah. Are you aware that James robbed the banks and plumbere on the square in Plumby.

00:29:01
Speaker 2: I actually had heard that before one of the trips here. I think someone told.

00:29:05
Speaker 9: Me that, Yeah, the bank ain't no longer there, but Jason shot a hole in the wall, and for years nobody passed that hole. I don't want to.

00:29:17
Speaker 2: That's where I remember. I do remember that. It's allegedly they kept that hole for a while. That sounds like a wives tale, but I'll believe it.

00:29:27
Speaker 6: Yeah.

00:29:27
Speaker 9: Well, I've seen the whole years ago, but I don't know about now whether it's still there or not.

00:29:32
Speaker 2: Did you all right? Well, if you say so, I'm not going to question you.

00:29:38
Speaker 9: All right, thank you, y'all?

00:29:40
Speaker 2: All right?

00:29:41
Speaker 3: There you go to the hole.

00:29:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, it's strange that we like those facts, although I do think I feel like we talk about this with Abraham Lincoln. There's like twenty towns in this state that claim something about Abraham Lincoln. And then there's like one hundred and fifty cities or maybe two under around America that claimed Jesse James did something in their town. I mean, these these people act like these are very prolific.

00:30:07
Speaker 3: And it seems like for a criminal, people seem to really love Jesse James. I mean, he shot up a bank and we're gonna keep the whole. We don't want to patch the hole up because of Jesse James.

00:30:14
Speaker 2: But there is weird like sometimes in America criminals get south. I mean, think about the dude up in New York, the Luigi guy like it, like, I mean, he did something awful, yet there's people who celebrate him like I mean, I you know, sometimes I guess people just do that.

00:30:30
Speaker 4: I think Abraham Lincoln and Jesse James must have been in every single town in this state. One did good, one did bad, then they go to the next state. You seem like they're all over the place.

00:30:38
Speaker 2: I think I just said that. Yeah, I mean almost the exact almost the exact same thing.

00:30:48
Speaker 5: Do you think the people that were shot at are proud that they're honoring the hole, like that could have killed me and you're celebrating this.

00:30:54
Speaker 3: Should should we go find the whole after the show today?

00:30:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, that wouldn't be. I don't like if I didn't find it very funny. It's probably not like your career. If the city of Louisville made the like shots behind.

00:31:06
Speaker 3: Craig Green, Yeah, That's what I'm saying. It's weird.

00:31:09
Speaker 2: Craig would be like, hang on, He's like, yeah.

00:31:11
Speaker 3: Let's not patch that up.

00:31:12
Speaker 2: Let's keep that there as a reminder. It would be I think they should patch it up. Who's next? Dylan is next? Dylan? Go ahead? Dylan?

00:31:21
Speaker 6: Hey, Matt, first time caller here?

00:31:24
Speaker 2: Uh? Who are Uh?

00:31:27
Speaker 6: I got a question? So, like the biggest thing for me about with stoops is I feel like as a fan base, we accept like mediocrity, So like what sets the rest of the sec up for success is like they their expectations as a fan base as a whole. So, like my question is, do you think, like if we keep stoops, do you think we ever have a chance at like say the playoffs or anything like that.

00:31:55
Speaker 2: That's loaded questions. So I appreciate the call. Do I think that we have a chance at the playoff if Mark Stoops were to come back. Probably not. But I also would say to you that there have been years in Mark stoops tenure where we would have been a contender for the playoff. There would have been two years where Kentucky would have been either in the playoff or like one of the first couple teams left out. Do I have confidence that where the program is now and in the current structure, that Mark would do that. Probably not. But I also don't think you can just act like he never would have had a shot at that. I also would say this about programs, and I think this is really important. Ryan, You've heard me say this over and over. College football is a different sport today, completely different sport today than it was four years ago. Four years ago, I would have looked at you and said Kentucky has no chance of ever being a contender. I said it for years. It's a different world now. It's a different world. Within IL, It's like a salary cap in the NFL. If it was a free market, the Kansas City Chiefs could never be dominant. But in the NFL there's a salary cap. So with a salary cap, you can get a guy like Mahomes, and the Chiefs can be good for fifteen straight years. I think Kentucky football do. I think it has as good a chance as LSU Albert and of course not, there's a reason Kitfin's considering leaving old Miss Relsu. But as Vandy and Indiana has shown us in this new world, we actually have a chance. And because we actually have a chance, then I think you have to pick a coach that you think will give you that chance. I'm not sure if Stoops is that guy, but my expectations Ryan, of what can be done have changed here dramatically in the Nile era.

00:33:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, at this point in time, my program is not anywhere close to making the playoffs. Oh but who's to say they can't get a Diego Pavio one year and maybe ride him to a playoff run at some point. I mean, he has to nine wins in a regular season twice. Who's to say he can't do it again with the right with the right personnel.

00:34:12
Speaker 2: I mean those two years we won nine games drew. There were games in those seasons where it could have gone the other way, and a ten win Kentucky team has a really good chance.

00:34:22
Speaker 5: In a playoff, so why not. You know, I'm with you, But Stoops is good years. We're in the recruit and develop era, Like our best players were freshmen that he developed, some guys he took gambles on, like a Lynn Bowden that you know, had some issues in high school and he took a chance. But now the world has completely changed, and since it's changed, we are way behind. And I don't think there's any ignoring that the door opened for teams a couple of years ago, and vand and Indiana jumped right in and we kicked around, and we're still not where we need to be. I mean, stoops To kind of said this week without saying it that the money ain't great. He said, there's a lot of teams out there with money right now, and we're listen.

00:34:57
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Stoops is the right guy, but I do this is the first time in my life that I felt like, with the right guy, you could build a program. Yeah, because I never felt that way before. I actually think that is potentially true now. But guess what it's true for all these schools though, Yeah, you know what I mean, Like it's all the every school has a chance now, I actually think the NIL has done the exact opposite of what people thought. People thought it was gonna separate the programs. I think it's actually brought them closer together. I think it's given people a chance that they wouldn't have had otherwise. Stop overpaying for sunglasses. If you're tired of buying expensive sunglasses because you don't want to lose them, don't want to break them, go to Shady Rays. Premium polarized shades for every activity running, fishing, biking, golfing, Tangle free aviators that won't get stuck in your hair, color rush lens is. It's Shady Rays, the best protection program in the industry. Lost and broken replacements, It is all there at Shady Rays or Shadyrais dot com. We're gonna take a break, come right back, do our final segment for Thanksgiving. This is Kentucky Sports Radio walking back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here at Don Franklin. Go to Cornbreadhimp dot com if you want to get rest and relaxation here On this Black Friday weekend, corn Brands having a Black Friday and Cyber Monday sale. Remember buy one, get one free on everything at corn Bred, Hemp except the Seltzers. Everything at Cornbred Hemp buy one, get one free on orders over ninety dollars that includes the gummies, the oils, et cetera. This is your time to load up front now through cyber Monday. Buy one, get one free on everything at Cornbred Hip gummies, oils, and more cornbreadthimp dot com. But use the code Bogo or use the code code Bogo b O g O. Just wanted to make sure Bogo, Bob and Jamestown. We're doing a show here.

00:36:47
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00:36:49
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00:37:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was gonna go with as well.

00:37:36
Speaker 2: So you're gonna go Alabama or Alabama. I'm with you.

00:37:39
Speaker 3: I think that's a good pick.

00:37:40
Speaker 2: All right.

00:37:40
Speaker 3: Let me jump over to Clemson. South Carolina don't have the points spread. I think that was like three for Clemson.

00:37:48
Speaker 2: Three and a half for South Carolina.

00:37:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, so give me give me Clemson on the road with the points.

00:37:53
Speaker 2: You like that one? Yeah, I don't know. All right, pick your pick. So you're taking clips in the cover of three and a half on the road, Billy, do you have yours? I was going with Auburn.

00:38:03
Speaker 3: I do have mine, and this is the team that ruined the parlay last week.

00:38:07
Speaker 4: I'm taking pitt at home plus seven versus Miami.

00:38:11
Speaker 2: All right, I'm okay with that one. I'll tell you what, since you don't even like my pick, let me switch. We'll get rid of Alabama Auburn. I'll take big on Auburn. I'll take Tennessee to cover against Vandy. Tennessee's at home. I think they're gonna cover against Vandy. Games in Rocky Top, Diego. Pave's mom got a little too saucy for mainstream America last week, so she'll take it down the notch and I'm gonna take Tennessee to cover against Vandy. So we will boot Auburn Alabama out of it.

00:38:40
Speaker 5: That one I'm going. I'm going with the dog in the Egg Bowl, Mississippi State at home getting a touchdown. Lane Kiffin's got a foot out the door. MISSISISPPI State's played a lot of close games. This is one of those rivalries where it doesn't matter what they've done all year, it is always a war. I will go with Mississippi State getting a touchdown at home on Thanksgiving.

00:38:59
Speaker 2: All right, thank you very much. Bill.

00:39:00
Speaker 5: Wait, that's we're doing Saturday games. I'm sorry, that's that's before. Let me do Missouri getting all right two and a half. Missouri's a two and a half point favorite at Arkansas. I'll take Missouri. Drew did say before we started channing he had plenty of picks. Dude, Well, I had Auburn and then I had that one in Missouri's mother one, so I'm going to my third.

00:39:15
Speaker 2: They're a two and a half point favorite against Arkansas. I like Missouri, so I guess we have Missouri, pitt Tennessee, and what was your shanta? Clemson? All right, Missouri, pit Tennessee and Clemson. Thank you very much, Billy. All right, let's talk about the Kentucky games. We'll start with the basketball game. First of all, the women's team plays tonight as well. I think they're at six thirty is that right? Five thirty in Puerto Rico? In Puerto Rico. Somehow this game is not on television or it's on something called flow sports, which is not something I think I have. But they're playing against a Big ten team, playing against Maryland, so good luck to them. But let's go to the basketball game. What do you think the score is tonight?

00:39:53
Speaker 4: John Pelfrey bringing Tennessee Tech in. I think this bread was like thirty seven, and it may be worse than that. I think I'm gonna go one hundred and four.

00:40:01
Speaker 2: Sixty five thirty nine points.

00:40:03
Speaker 5: All right, The women are five to thirty on flow Sports. For all you Flow Sports subscribers, cats won't get into one hundred but I'll say they get close ninety six sixty two and walker Horn gets his first career points tonight.

00:40:15
Speaker 2: He's been so close. I love he is not Hillshet. You're a big walker Horn fan. You gave me. You're the only person I've ever seen give walker Horn applause. You just how you just like to clap? Some people going there and dribble and milk the clock. He's out there fire. Some people enjoy clapping. I like that. All right, go ahead, all right, I'm.

00:40:31
Speaker 3: Gonna say eighty four forty five Cats blowout.

00:40:34
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say ninety four fifty seven Cats. Fo. Let's go to the football big game, I mean the postgame show on Saturday. I don't know what I'm gonna be dealing with. We might be dealing with celebrating a big victory and a bowl game. We might be dealing with a close loss. We might be dealing with a fan base that is in revolt. I mean, there's absolute no way what it's gonna to know what it's gonna be like Saturday. What do you think is going to happen there in Louis.

00:41:06
Speaker 4: I I'll pick Kentucky a winner. I'm gonna pick twenty four to twenty one. Come down to the final minutes. Maybe Calway gets the big field goal late in the game to put us ahead twenty four to twenty.

00:41:16
Speaker 2: Do you like legitimately believe that is? Yeah? Bellet Okay, yeah, all right, what do you think?

00:41:21
Speaker 5: I wish I could see our availability report. That's gonna tell the whole story. I'm gonna assume more guys played than they did a week ago, and that Louisville's and shambles. I'll say thirty one twenty Kentucky.

00:41:32
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a big victory. Okay, I already bet the alternate spread as high as it will go. All right, good Shandon.

00:41:37
Speaker 3: Think it's gonna be a good game. And abatt who wants it more? I'm gonna say Kentucky wins twenty three twenty.

00:41:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think we could kill him, and I think they could kill us. I think it's all gonna be a mindset in terms of who wants to be on there, who wants to win it. I think the teams are relatively equal now that Louisvill's lost a lot of guys, so I think it's just gonna de depends on how excited they are. I think whoever's winning at the end of the first quarter wins the game going away. So I'm gonna say that's us, So I'm gonna pick us to win thirty to seventeen, But I also think it could easily be thirty to seventeen. The other way. I think it's gonna be completely whoever somebody's quitting in this game in the second half, and the question is just which team quits, and then I think that will be ultimately what decides big weekend. Tonight we'll have the pregame and postgame. We will also have Saturday. Thank you folks here in Columbia very much for coming out a great crowd right before Thanksgiving here at Don Franklin. We'll see at four thirty for the pregame. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.

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