The Cobble Mountain Critter - My Bigfoot Sighting Episode 193

My Bigfoot Sighting

Tim and Eric Vogel went to see Sasquatch: The Legend of Bigfoot in the winter of 1976, when they were in their teens. Seeing that movie really sparked their interest in Sasquatch. About a month after seeing that movie, during a big snowstorm, something happened one morning that completely set the hook in them, with regards to their interest in the topic. The storm had dropped about 28 inches of snow on the area where Tim and Eric lived, in Western Massachusetts, and when the looked out their window that morning, they saw a horde of people in their driveway. There were Bigfoot investigators, news reporters, and other people out there who were focused on a trail of big tracks that led across their property. It turned out to be a hoax that a kid in their area had been responsible, but the damage was already done. Tim and Eric couldn’t get enough of the Bigfoot topic. It should come as no surprise that Tim and Eric decided to become Sasquatch investigators, years later and form Vogel Brothers Sasquatch Investigations. On tonight’s show, Tim and Eric are going to share numerous sightings and experiences they’ve had. We hope you’ll tune in and listen to them do that. 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey you there, Thanks for tuning in.
<v Speaker 2>You're ready for another episode of My big Foot Sighting.
<v Speaker 1>All right, then let's do this.
<v Speaker 3>Seen a bunch of run down, no horse towns where
<v Speaker 3>the church at the backbonels and the bow and the
<v Speaker 3>fasting melodies, cove in with the bone man rose with
<v Speaker 3>the roofs, run deep beyond the nose of the busy
<v Speaker 3>streets with the songs of the South of s. Then
<v Speaker 3>and I hear the prompt Poch picking down home rhythm
<v Speaker 3>bringing out I Don't Run from Banjung music.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, summon.
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<v Speaker 1>my Bigfoot Sighting dot com.
<v Speaker 2>Our Bigfoot Sightings are why we created the Vogal Brothers.
<v Speaker 2>We're the Vogal Brothers and I'm Timm Eric.
<v Speaker 4>Nice talking to you all. Yeah, thanks for having us
<v Speaker 4>on the show. We're going to give you a little
<v Speaker 4>background on our how we became investigators and how we
<v Speaker 4>became interested in the top of the Bigfoot.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Whatever sent us down the rabbit hole, you know, Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>So I guess it was back in nineteen seventy six
<v Speaker 4>is when it started, not the investigations part, but as kids,
<v Speaker 4>we went and saw a movie, the Sasquatch Legend of
<v Speaker 4>Bigfoot or Vice versa. And it was winter and it
<v Speaker 4>was nineteen seventy six, and we were, you know, kind
<v Speaker 4>of working our way, shoveling our drive ways to earn
<v Speaker 4>money to go see this movie at the Ago on
<v Speaker 4>Twin Cinemas and aguon Mass And this all takes place
<v Speaker 4>in Western Mass in West Springfield at this point. And
<v Speaker 4>so we grew up in West Springfield and we went
<v Speaker 4>to this movie and a couple of weeks later about them. Now,
<v Speaker 4>three or four weeks later, it's wintertime and we got
<v Speaker 4>this week snow. It was in December. Yeah, a deep,
<v Speaker 4>deep snow storm.
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, yeah, we had a we had it was
<v Speaker 2>actually a fluffy snow that we had almost twenty eight inches.
<v Speaker 2>And that morning we had all kinds of people in
<v Speaker 2>our driveway, I mean investigators and newspeople, and they wanted
<v Speaker 2>to know what the big tracks were. We were like,
<v Speaker 2>what are you talking about? So our father went out
<v Speaker 2>in the back into the apple orchard with him and
<v Speaker 2>we got these tracks that are in the snow, that
<v Speaker 2>are about twenty inches long, you know, and being we
<v Speaker 2>were just teenagers, were like, wow, this is really cool.
<v Speaker 2>At first we didn't know what it was either. It's
<v Speaker 2>just big tracks. Yeah, they were just just big tracks.
<v Speaker 2>So they were following them. And it actually started in
<v Speaker 2>Robinson State Park over in Agua by Strathmore paper Mill,
<v Speaker 2>coming up the canal ended out that way you came across,
<v Speaker 2>went up and along the canal, up over the railroad
<v Speaker 2>tracks into our backyard, which was an acre of apple trees,
<v Speaker 2>down into our into the ravine, and followed the stream
<v Speaker 2>back out and went across the river because the river
<v Speaker 2>back then used to actually freeze, and it went across
<v Speaker 2>the river, and it was over in Robinson State Park
<v Speaker 2>and they had all kinds of investigators over there and
<v Speaker 2>checking it out in the sat you thing. They had
<v Speaker 2>some investigator from California, one from New York. Bigfoot investigators
<v Speaker 2>now and they're right in our backyard. Yeah, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I mean we were food kids on the block.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, so it was a big to do and
<v Speaker 4>that was kind of our you know, it turned out
<v Speaker 4>to be a nothing burger. A kid ended up turning
<v Speaker 4>himself in and saying it was a hoax that he
<v Speaker 4>had made some plywood shoes, and that was the extent
<v Speaker 4>of it, you know. So, I mean that was that
<v Speaker 4>was kind of our introduction to you know the world
<v Speaker 4>of bigfoot because you know, we grew up here in
<v Speaker 4>the East Coast, and it was never a big foot
<v Speaker 4>that didn't exist, right, you know, that was a West
<v Speaker 4>coast thing. Yeah, and it was new because Bob Gimlin
<v Speaker 4>took a picture.
<v Speaker 2>You know, his birthday's coming up.
<v Speaker 4>There, Patty's birthday, October twentieth, the famous photograph that Bob
<v Speaker 4>Gimlin took of Patty. You know, the Bigfoot is back
<v Speaker 4>in sixty seven, So if we're seeing this movie in
<v Speaker 4>seventy six, you know, it's only ten years just over,
<v Speaker 4>and you know, it barely made its way here.
<v Speaker 2>As far as what a bigfoot is, you know, we
<v Speaker 2>didn't know, and that's why we want to see it
<v Speaker 2>exactly actually, So you know, that was kind of the
<v Speaker 2>extent of it.
<v Speaker 4>We kind of time goes by and you know, life
<v Speaker 4>happens and we start an adventure education business called to
<v Speaker 4>Come Mountain Outdoors and we used to do a lot
<v Speaker 4>of everything adventure education, from canoeing and kayaking, rock climbing instruction.
<v Speaker 4>Everything was on an instructional level, a certification level of
<v Speaker 4>Wilderness first State.
<v Speaker 2>Everything. You know. It was professional development, you know.
<v Speaker 4>To teach people how to be climbing instructors or kayaking
<v Speaker 4>instructors to that. So it was a pretty intense programs
<v Speaker 4>and workshops that we had and we did it for
<v Speaker 4>almost twenty years and we did a lot of school programs,
<v Speaker 4>team building, ropes, courses and things like that, and so
<v Speaker 4>it was a pretty varied business. And part of what
<v Speaker 4>we did was wilderness canoe trips up in the ad
<v Speaker 4>aroundecks and through our business, we would different groups up
<v Speaker 4>for a week, could be Scouts, Girl Scouts, colleges, you
<v Speaker 4>name it. Groups that wanted to go off on a
<v Speaker 4>wilderness paddle and portage.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, sometimes it was a weekend or fifty
<v Speaker 2>mile or one hundred mile or two hundred whatever. You know.
<v Speaker 2>It was a long time and we've been in this
<v Speaker 2>area of the Atironics up in the Floodwood area for
<v Speaker 2>ten fifteen years and we've been certified guide yep exactly,
<v Speaker 2>and we were in and out of these paddle portage
<v Speaker 2>and ponds all over the place out there. So we
<v Speaker 2>we've been in and out of them and we've camped
<v Speaker 2>on a ninety of them, so we knew the area
<v Speaker 2>very well. And h that's kind of where we started from,
<v Speaker 2>you know, when we you from from that point on,
<v Speaker 2>jump ahead to twenty thirteen thirsteen experience. And it was
<v Speaker 2>on Pink Pond. It was long. We traveled through long
<v Speaker 2>Pond into Ping Pong and the couple of.
<v Speaker 4>Days of portage and paddling to get there anyway. And
<v Speaker 4>it was on long lake or a long pond where
<v Speaker 4>we stayed.
<v Speaker 2>Yep.
<v Speaker 4>The first night we were going to get some dinner,
<v Speaker 4>and then we took off and went up this stream.
<v Speaker 4>We were fishing down to the stream. Well he's paddling.
<v Speaker 2>I went on fishing and I'm catching fish one after
<v Speaker 2>or another every third cast. It was like it turned
<v Speaker 2>into a fishing story instead of going out and getting
<v Speaker 2>dinner thing. And we did that for oh, I bet
<v Speaker 2>you're almost half hour forty minutes, if not a little
<v Speaker 2>bit longer. Until we got to the stream. And then
<v Speaker 2>we started to paddle down the stream. And as we're
<v Speaker 2>going down the streaming, you know it's starting to for me,
<v Speaker 2>it's starting to close, and you're starting to get all
<v Speaker 2>the twigs and stuff overhanging. So I told Tim to
<v Speaker 2>spin it around and well, you can go in. So
<v Speaker 2>he spun around and he went in, and on the
<v Speaker 2>other side, you know, it was opening up where he
<v Speaker 2>got through it. Then it opened up where he actually
<v Speaker 2>was on one side of a beaver dam and he
<v Speaker 2>was going to fish to the other side. Yeah. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>well it was the last time I let him fish. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>So I'm fishing at this point, and the beaver pond
<v Speaker 4>is you know, maybe a fifty fifty yards wide, if
<v Speaker 4>that not even fifty yards wide, and the beaver dam
<v Speaker 4>is if I'm sitting in the canoe, it's just overhead level,
<v Speaker 4>so it might be four feet tall. And I caught
<v Speaker 4>a fish and I started pulling it in. As soon
<v Speaker 4>as I started pulling it in, these two trees started
<v Speaker 4>shaking like crazy. Those big trees started shaking like they
<v Speaker 4>were in a snow globe, just crazy shaking, unbelievable, just instantaneously.
<v Speaker 4>Just as soon as the fish came out of the water,
<v Speaker 4>I started reeling them in, these two trees started going crazy,
<v Speaker 4>and next thing you know, there's roaring, uh roaring that's
<v Speaker 4>coming out. There's growling, is all kinds of weird noise.
<v Speaker 4>I don't even know how to explain the noises.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a noise that was just it was
<v Speaker 2>so loud, so consect non stop, never and it was
<v Speaker 2>so deep that it bounced off your chest. That's how
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's how you could feel it. You could
<v Speaker 2>feel the vibrato on your chest. It was crazy. And
<v Speaker 2>it never stopped. It just kept going, so we did.
<v Speaker 2>We were backed away. Yeah, but the trees started either
<v Speaker 2>breaking or still. Yes, the trees were still shaking. And
<v Speaker 2>as we're back in the way, the things are things
<v Speaker 2>are coming out in the water, like he was just saying.
<v Speaker 2>Then we didn't know if they were literally being thrown
<v Speaker 2>at us or if they were coming out of the trees.
<v Speaker 2>But some trees were shaking. There was no problem, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>if that was the case. Because and we sat there
<v Speaker 2>for ten not even maybe ten minutes there trying to
<v Speaker 2>figure out what the heck this was, and then it
<v Speaker 2>got really aggressive sounding, and that's when we started back in.
<v Speaker 2>It just made no sense because we've never we've never
<v Speaker 2>heard or encountered anything like this in the twenty years
<v Speaker 2>that we've been going up there. Yeah, yeah, no, it
<v Speaker 2>was completely what the heck is this?
<v Speaker 4>And you know, kind of scared us because we didn't
<v Speaker 4>know when you know, how to identify what we're listening to.
<v Speaker 2>And then, like you said, it's getting real loud.
<v Speaker 4>It's getting really aggressive vocally wise, and like the vibrations
<v Speaker 4>he's talking about is as loud as it would get,
<v Speaker 4>you could feel it in your you could feel it
<v Speaker 4>in your body. It was get high and loud, it
<v Speaker 4>would feel it, and if it got low, you'd feel that,
<v Speaker 4>just like standing.
<v Speaker 2>In front of an amplifier. Yeah, yeah, very much like that.
<v Speaker 2>So it got pretty crazy loud and we thought the uh,
<v Speaker 2>it was time to leave. Yeah, yeah, we did. We
<v Speaker 2>backed out of there. We got out of there, and
<v Speaker 2>we actually paddled out to the lake about halfway before
<v Speaker 2>it literally stopped. As fast as it started, it stopped. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Well we're halfway out in the lake and now it's
<v Speaker 4>probably almost ten to fifteen minutes, and this thing has
<v Speaker 4>never ever stopped. It never came up for air. Whatever
<v Speaker 4>was yelling and growling and screaming that ever it was
<v Speaker 4>was pretty mad. So, you know, ten maybe you remember
<v Speaker 4>we were fishing.
<v Speaker 2>We didn't have a wash, didn't have a cell phone,
<v Speaker 2>didn't have anything. Had a fly rod, some some flies
<v Speaker 2>and that was about it. Tweezers and that was it.
<v Speaker 2>To do some work with that. You know.
<v Speaker 4>We weren't expecting this, so yeah, it was completely unexpected.
<v Speaker 2>So we didn't know what it was. So after it
<v Speaker 2>had stopped and we were just sitting there contactly, we're
<v Speaker 2>not talking to each other. We just started paddling back
<v Speaker 2>down the lake and all I said to him was, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you know what he goes, Yeah, he says, we're on
<v Speaker 2>the same side as this thing just happened. About two
<v Speaker 2>hundred yards away is where our campsite was. And it
<v Speaker 2>wasn't one of these deals like you just pack up
<v Speaker 2>and go because it was it was too dark. You
<v Speaker 2>couldn't go anywhere in the middle of nowhere, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I mean the car. You're here, and the car is
<v Speaker 2>like five miles away, maybe further. Yeah, so yeah, you.
<v Speaker 4>Just weren't gonna just paddle away. You had a tough
<v Speaker 4>it out. So it was a scary night, Yeah, for sure.
<v Speaker 4>It was a quiet night. Actually, we had a ripping
<v Speaker 4>fire and then we went as far as you know,
<v Speaker 4>midnight one o clock, standing up and nothing happening, just
<v Speaker 4>uneventful after that, and.
<v Speaker 2>First first dawn though, we were out of there.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we were thankful. It was uneventful. And like you said,
<v Speaker 4>first light, we were out, we were gone, you know.
<v Speaker 4>And that's what and that's kind of what got us
<v Speaker 4>really started. Yeah, it's twenty thirteen, because I mean, we're
<v Speaker 4>older now, and to have this happened to us, it
<v Speaker 4>was it.
<v Speaker 2>We didn't know what it was. We didn't know what
<v Speaker 2>it was at that point, right, we had no clue
<v Speaker 2>what it was. And then we started hanging out with
<v Speaker 2>some people asking some questions, and we finally got a
<v Speaker 2>computer and got into Facebook and the rest of that stuff,
<v Speaker 2>and we found out that there were people out there
<v Speaker 2>having or had the same kind of incident or something
<v Speaker 2>similar to it. So you start looking into it a
<v Speaker 2>little bit further, you know, you start reading up on it,
<v Speaker 2>talking to other people, and now now you're headed towards okay,
<v Speaker 2>this is maybe this is what happened. Yeah, yeah, no,
<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's kind of bizarre the path that we
<v Speaker 2>took with that particular experience.
<v Speaker 4>Uh, you know, Monday morning quarterback and we're looking at
<v Speaker 4>it as you know, we were there fishing and you know,
<v Speaker 4>the thought on the big foot end of things, Now
<v Speaker 4>that we're thinking it was maybe a bigfoot in their fishing,
<v Speaker 4>we believe it was more than one bigfoot because the
<v Speaker 4>noise never stopped, and the noise went on for almost
<v Speaker 4>ten or fifteen minutes and it never ever stopped, So
<v Speaker 4>that in itself kind of lends itself to being multiple.
<v Speaker 4>You know, something's taken a breath while something was still yelling,
<v Speaker 4>and that's why the different homes.
<v Speaker 2>If not, this thing was massive, well ten minutes, you
<v Speaker 2>know it just you know, it's not. I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>it never ever ever stopped, I'll tell you that. So
<v Speaker 2>that was, in its own right.
<v Speaker 4>Kind of freaky because we didn't know what that was
<v Speaker 4>that didn't bother to come up for air. So now
<v Speaker 4>we go back and we think, well, Monday more than quarterback,
<v Speaker 4>it's probably multiple bigfoot back there. And we went back
<v Speaker 4>the following year as guides, and we measured the two
<v Speaker 4>trees that were shaking, and they were eight to ten
<v Speaker 4>inches around, So these things are almost nine to ten
<v Speaker 4>feet apart. Yeah, these things are not going to be
<v Speaker 4>shaking readily from you know, a whole bunch of college
<v Speaker 4>kids trying to wiggle a tree, or shake a tree
<v Speaker 4>or a bear it was, or a couple bears. They
<v Speaker 4>were just too big to have him shake the way
<v Speaker 4>these things were shaken.
<v Speaker 2>It was just too big. So yeah, going back a
<v Speaker 2>year later and doing some re doing some research and
<v Speaker 2>investigation on it.
<v Speaker 4>And and the stream, the way the way the beaver
<v Speaker 4>dam was shaped, it's kind of apex in a bow.
<v Speaker 4>We believe that now that if there was multiple bigfoot,
<v Speaker 4>then they probably started upstream and they just walked their
<v Speaker 4>way down the stream fishing, pushing all the fish in
<v Speaker 4>front of them into this new beaver pond, this beaver
<v Speaker 4>damned area.
<v Speaker 2>And then you know, they were fine with it all
<v Speaker 2>the way up until I caught that fish. And at
<v Speaker 2>that point one of them said, Nope, I had enough.
<v Speaker 2>These guys got to go. And he's yeah, and he
<v Speaker 2>let us know it, and I know uncertain terms, you know.
<v Speaker 2>We we also came up with the thought that possibly
<v Speaker 2>we always wait. We waited to the end of the
<v Speaker 2>year to where all the kids and the schools went
<v Speaker 2>back to back to the school colleges went back. So
<v Speaker 2>the woods were empty, they were nice, clean empty. We figured,
<v Speaker 2>if we're up there because of that reason, maybe this
<v Speaker 2>is why they were there doing the fishing part that
<v Speaker 2>he's talking about. Pushing him into that into that beaver damp.
<v Speaker 2>It's recognizing patterns. So recognizing that's what they were doing,
<v Speaker 2>because that if you know, the adron that's come come
<v Speaker 2>the end of summer, it empties out and you have
<v Speaker 2>it pretty much to yourself, which is pretty good. It's quiet,
<v Speaker 2>and that's why we were there. And I we believe
<v Speaker 2>that's why they were there. Yep. So you know, that's
<v Speaker 2>kind of how we sum it up. Now.
<v Speaker 4>We believe that they were fishing. We were fishing, and
<v Speaker 4>it just makes good sense. And we had good time
<v Speaker 4>fishing and they were probably having a good time fishing
<v Speaker 4>until we showed up and then you know, kind of
<v Speaker 4>messed up their day and they let us know it,
<v Speaker 4>you know. So, like you said, first light, we were
<v Speaker 4>out of there, and and that was kind of the
<v Speaker 4>entrance to the rabbit hole for us.
<v Speaker 2>Really. Yeah, that got us that That's that got us
<v Speaker 2>going in that direction. Because then we ended up to
<v Speaker 2>go into a couple of the Ohio conferences out there
<v Speaker 2>out at South South Fork, and you know, we got
<v Speaker 2>to listen to a lot of speakers and talk to
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people. That's where we picked up a
<v Speaker 2>lot of friends, and we picked up a lot of
<v Speaker 2>information and that sent us down that towards that road. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Well with with Salt Fork, it was uh, you know,
<v Speaker 4>meeting Bob Gimblin talking with uh Tom Payne, was it Tom?
<v Speaker 4>It was you know, meeting you know, half the b
<v Speaker 4>f RO crew. We were just new to this stuff,
<v Speaker 4>so it was it was a lot of fun, meeting
<v Speaker 4>a lot of the you know, the TV personalities and
<v Speaker 4>things like that. And then after talking to all these people,
<v Speaker 4>you're realizing that, you know, these guys got the same
<v Speaker 4>experiences as.
<v Speaker 2>You guys got or we have, you know, or maybe
<v Speaker 2>even more. Uh.
<v Speaker 4>Having said that, you know, we felt like, well, you
<v Speaker 4>know this is really legit.
<v Speaker 2>What we experienced was real.
<v Speaker 4>These guys from the top down, meaning Bob Gimlin down
<v Speaker 4>are telling us these things that we experienced over time.
<v Speaker 4>So you know, we believe now that you know, we
<v Speaker 4>were having a Bigfoot experience and that's kind of that
<v Speaker 4>was the driver, you know, after meeting all these folks
<v Speaker 4>and kind of solidifying what we were doing and what
<v Speaker 4>we experience, so you know, it was easy after that.
<v Speaker 4>So you know, we're we're going along and uh, we
<v Speaker 4>have a number of expeditions that we've done for different
<v Speaker 4>groups and whatnot. And we've had out of the different
<v Speaker 4>expeditions that we've done, you know, probably seven total that
<v Speaker 4>we've done, you with different groups than ourselves. Uh, you know,
<v Speaker 4>we've had numerous class A sightings or visual sightings. A
<v Speaker 4>class A would be a visual according to some of
<v Speaker 4>the people. Different groups have different ratings and classifications, I guess,
<v Speaker 4>but you know, we just call it a visual. You
<v Speaker 4>saw it, and that was a visual, So that's what
<v Speaker 4>you did. And you know, we're kind of going into
<v Speaker 4>this now almost twenty years going in fifty sixteen years
<v Speaker 4>or so and having you know, going off and doing
<v Speaker 4>investigations as the Voger Brothers and then doing all these different.
<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot reports and whatnot. We started doing library talks and
<v Speaker 2>people wanted to hear more about what we were doing.
<v Speaker 2>We started these like in the little town of Beckett
<v Speaker 2>out here in western mass you know, we have a mailbox,
<v Speaker 2>a mailbox drop and it's a big Foot drop off. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's a report box. Yeah, it's the official Bigfoot reporting
<v Speaker 2>station in Western mass at the moment. You know, you
<v Speaker 2>go to Beckett Mass.
<v Speaker 4>And you can make out a report one of our
<v Speaker 4>diggers and a card and whatnot, and you allow you know,
<v Speaker 4>coffee to go and and then we'll get the Bigfoot reward.
<v Speaker 4>And believe it or not, you know, that had kind
<v Speaker 4>of inspired us to start a business, and that's what
<v Speaker 4>we did. So over the years we've we kind of
<v Speaker 4>accumulated all of our stories and experiences and encounters and
<v Speaker 4>made the Cobble Mountain Critter Project took our took our
<v Speaker 4>old our old business and just kind of morphed it
<v Speaker 4>into a youth outdoor complete education thing and moved it
<v Speaker 4>over to a.
<v Speaker 2>To a newer version and now we we uh the
<v Speaker 2>Cobble mount Critter Project is a youth outdoor education business.
<v Speaker 2>It's something that we kind of co founded off of
<v Speaker 2>or co followed off of our count and outdoors then
<v Speaker 2>the brothers Bigfoot correct, we do the Bigfoot in you know.
<v Speaker 2>The the bulk of the Cobble Mountain Critter Project is
<v Speaker 2>a youth outdoor education component.
<v Speaker 4>And what we do is we do talks, podcasts, conferences
<v Speaker 4>or wherever libraries do things like that, and whatever funds
<v Speaker 4>we make goes into the youth outdoor education component and
<v Speaker 4>we're sending kids to camp this year. We're sending a
<v Speaker 4>kid to camp for two weeks and it's going to
<v Speaker 4>cost us one thousand dollars, so that'll happen. And then
<v Speaker 4>we're working with the town of Russell Russell, mass They
<v Speaker 4>has the Russell Montgomery Police Department and they're going to
<v Speaker 4>be making a patch that has our logo the Cobble
<v Speaker 4>Mountain Critter Project in their police patch and we'll be
<v Speaker 4>selling those fundraisers. It's a good looking pat yeah, but
<v Speaker 4>it's a fundraiser and we're integrated into the community and
<v Speaker 4>that's the big part about it. It's a business and
<v Speaker 4>it's just bigfoot moving, you know, speaking you know, youth
<v Speaker 4>out their education really and that's what we're doing with it.
<v Speaker 4>So that's kind of how how the vote or the
<v Speaker 4>Vogel Brothers started the Cobble Mountain Creatter Project and why
<v Speaker 4>we did it. That's that's kind and that's local war
<v Speaker 4>the Cobble Mountain Crewter. So that's why we're using the
<v Speaker 4>Cobble Mountain Cruiter. Everybody in that in that area knows
<v Speaker 4>about it. Yeah, and we've done very well locally advertising,
<v Speaker 4>getting tons of reports believed or not, it's it's very encouraging.
<v Speaker 4>I just picked up two reports today that one guy
<v Speaker 4>called me from Albany and another is a local here.
<v Speaker 4>And just the other day, Eric and I I believe
<v Speaker 4>I had another sighting yesterday, but it was from from
<v Speaker 4>the truck and it was a very quick sighting and
<v Speaker 4>it was in a field. Were just happened to go
<v Speaker 4>and past Balance Rock up on Balance Rock Road near Lanesboro, Mess.
<v Speaker 4>So if you're out that way, he heads up, stay
<v Speaker 4>forest out there. Yeah, And you know, we were just
<v Speaker 4>talking and I was looking out the window and all
<v Speaker 4>of the sudden, I says, I'm looking at it. And
<v Speaker 4>then I turned my brother and I says, hey. I says,
<v Speaker 4>either somebody just put a cutout a silhouette out there,
<v Speaker 4>or that was a big foot. And what made me
<v Speaker 4>say that was I think I saw the head turn
<v Speaker 4>and it was odd. That's why I told my brother,
<v Speaker 4>I think I saw a silhouette, but it looked like
<v Speaker 4>a bigfoot. And I saw from the shoulders up completely black.
<v Speaker 4>And this was in where it was there's a parking lot.
<v Speaker 4>The parking lot ends and then there's a cat tails
<v Speaker 4>and frag mighty frag Mighty grows up eight nine feet high,
<v Speaker 4>and this was all of that, and I could still
<v Speaker 4>see the complete shoulders, neck and head, and it looked
<v Speaker 4>like it turned and looked at the vehicle as we
<v Speaker 4>drove by, and so I'm telling Eric, hey, turn around,
<v Speaker 4>let's go check this out. And we turned it right
<v Speaker 4>around when we weren't seconds from turning it around, literally, and.
<v Speaker 2>The kid on the bike was kind of freaked out.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he was, so so we turned around, we go
<v Speaker 2>back book it into the parking lot and there is
<v Speaker 2>zero nothing there. Nothing, you know, there was noth lately gone.
<v Speaker 2>Whatever was there was wrong.
<v Speaker 4>And it was raining, and for us to venture off
<v Speaker 4>into nine foot Fragmighty looking for a night foot creature
<v Speaker 4>was just kind of disheartening.
<v Speaker 2>So it just was a little, you know, a little off.
<v Speaker 4>So anyways, it was a very brief sighting or an encounter.
<v Speaker 4>This place has a number of encounters actually, I end
<v Speaker 4>numbers of reports right there in that area. So it's
<v Speaker 4>very possible that that was a sighting because I know
<v Speaker 4>what I saw. I've got two or three cutouts here
<v Speaker 4>in our camp and that's what I thought I was
<v Speaker 4>looking at. We turned around and went back and it
<v Speaker 4>wasn't there simple as that. So watching like a.
<v Speaker 2>Duck quacks like a dog gune for sure, there's no
<v Speaker 2>doubt about it. Yeah. But from twenty and thirteen we
<v Speaker 2>start like we were talked about. We started a new business,
<v Speaker 2>the communt Critter Project, and you know it does besides
<v Speaker 2>fundraising and the community, we're out there pushing, pushing the
<v Speaker 2>the opening for people to come out and talk to
<v Speaker 2>us about bigfooting. You know, when we go to a library,
<v Speaker 2>we'll have people sitting there. We know you could tell
<v Speaker 2>who has a story. So when they see you telling
<v Speaker 2>your story, it makes them a little more relaxed. And
<v Speaker 2>this is how we picked up most of our Western
<v Speaker 2>mass stories were off of talking to people that would
<v Speaker 2>never talk about them before. Yeah, we've done better than
<v Speaker 2>a dozen, maybe fifteen libraries, a dozen and so libraries.
<v Speaker 2>And it's always a two hour program.
<v Speaker 4>Our last one was just the other night. We were
<v Speaker 4>up in Pittsfield at the Berkshire Infonyum, big, big, beautiful
<v Speaker 4>library and it was packed forty to fifty people and yeah,
<v Speaker 4>and they were serving snacks.
<v Speaker 2>It was a great time. A lot of questions and answers,
<v Speaker 2>and that's that's the best part about it.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and that and that usually after you're done cleaning
<v Speaker 4>up and hauling your gear out of the truck, it's
<v Speaker 4>you know, there's a mob of people meeting you at
<v Speaker 4>the parking lot, helping you a load, like your roadies,
<v Speaker 4>and they're telling you their story because you know, finally
<v Speaker 4>they've got an opportunity to speak and somebody will listen
<v Speaker 4>without being Yeah, they're afraid to get ridiculed, made fun of.
<v Speaker 2>And so they can see us do it. It's no
<v Speaker 2>big deal for us.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So you know, they open up, they give us
<v Speaker 4>their information, and I tell you, it's it's been pretty
<v Speaker 4>wild as far as you know, the bigfoot, the concept.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's it's wild enough talking about bigfoot. I mean,
<v Speaker 4>I guess once you're a knower or you've seen it,
<v Speaker 4>it's not a good thing.
<v Speaker 2>It is a big thing. But it's what I mean,
<v Speaker 2>why you see it? You can unsee it. It's yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you're a knower, so now you know it's there. It's
<v Speaker 2>not like now and now what you want to get
<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, you want to get deeper, You want to
<v Speaker 2>get more information. You want to you want to try
<v Speaker 2>to figure out exactly what you did. Yeah, you want
<v Speaker 2>a longer experience. You want to losers, you want to say, yep,
<v Speaker 2>that's exactly who Hey, you know, talk to this thing maybe, uh,
<v Speaker 2>you know. But that's why we you know, that's why
<v Speaker 2>we do it, and that's why everybody else is out
<v Speaker 2>there doing it. You know. They they've had an experience
<v Speaker 2>or they know someone that has and they want to
<v Speaker 2>find it. They want to they want to get a
<v Speaker 2>good visual of it.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's some folks out there that you know, we've
<v Speaker 4>we've done a number of other we call them lesser experiences.
<v Speaker 4>We've had numerous things like rock drawing, woofs, wood knocks,
<v Speaker 4>and that's just over almost let's say, fifteen years of investigating.
<v Speaker 4>That's just kind of the way it goes. You know,
<v Speaker 4>sometimes you hear nothing, and sometimes it blows you away
<v Speaker 4>at what you're hearing. Some people that were there click
<v Speaker 4>like Kevin Ramiro, right, he used to do the recordings
<v Speaker 4>and stuff like that, and we go back and sit
<v Speaker 4>and listen to hours of vocals that he would record
<v Speaker 4>and you'd be amazing what it's out there, what you
<v Speaker 4>heard or what you didn't here, and he's picked it
<v Speaker 4>up in his vocals, you know. So it's it's fun
<v Speaker 4>as far as the research stuff because you got all
<v Speaker 4>these kind of cool tools to help you do some
<v Speaker 4>of that. It does some of the work for you.
<v Speaker 4>You can leave recorders if the if the batteries don't
<v Speaker 4>die off, right, and we've had that happen, you.
<v Speaker 2>Know, brand new batteries and then have them die on you.
<v Speaker 2>So that's a tough one. Yeah, there's the uh, you know,
<v Speaker 2>the whole concept of the WU you know, Uh is
<v Speaker 2>this thing flesh and blood? Is it paranormal? Is it alien?
<v Speaker 2>Is an interdimensional?
<v Speaker 4>So there's a whole real good talk on that, uh,
<v Speaker 4>And there's a real serious talk on it because there's
<v Speaker 4>a lot of things. You know, there's a lot of
<v Speaker 4>Eric and I. I think we were flesh and blood
<v Speaker 4>camping and now we're kind of I'm more still flesh
<v Speaker 4>and blood than he is.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you know, I don't know. I'm while it's
<v Speaker 2>flesh and blood, while that's here. But when it gets
<v Speaker 2>scared or it feels cornered, I believe that it can
<v Speaker 2>it can cop it can pop in and out. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>a fight or flight and all, you know, and it
<v Speaker 2>turns into an orbit all of a sudden, it's not theirs,
<v Speaker 2>and you only end up. Now, you got to remember
<v Speaker 2>you're looking. Let's say this thing is like the one
<v Speaker 2>that I saw, was about nine feet tall, four feet wide.
<v Speaker 2>It had to be. It had to have been eight
<v Speaker 2>hundred to nine hundred pounds. It left one track, one
<v Speaker 2>in a quarter track. That's what That's what was left
<v Speaker 2>on the ground after four days of raining. And there
<v Speaker 2>were twelve people that were there when this was all happening.
<v Speaker 2>Two of us saw it. One saw the bottom half,
<v Speaker 2>the laid part from the waist down, and I saw
<v Speaker 2>from the waist up because there was a tree laying across.
<v Speaker 2>But it never moved. You never saw trees move. You
<v Speaker 2>never heard anything break. Everybody says, well, it could have
<v Speaker 2>been a bear. Well, a bear would have made a
<v Speaker 2>huffing sound or some kind of it would have knocked trees.
<v Speaker 2>Now as it ran away, nothing moved. This was quiet,
<v Speaker 2>like we were standing there looking for it to begin with,
<v Speaker 2>and there was there was nothing there. So we got
<v Speaker 2>twelve people looking at this thing and seeing the same thing.
<v Speaker 2>But we had whistles, we had knocks. We believed that
<v Speaker 2>I believe that what I saw was a bigfoot, and
<v Speaker 2>it was only a forty yard visual thing when I
<v Speaker 2>was looking at it. So forty yards is not that far,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, And I took I took Tim
<v Speaker 2>back the next day, I says, because he was teaching
<v Speaker 2>a fish class for the state here at the camp.
<v Speaker 2>And I said, you got to come back with me.
<v Speaker 2>So I took him back, and I took him back
<v Speaker 2>to the rock that I was standing on and where
<v Speaker 2>I brought out the ruler, I brought out the tape measure,
<v Speaker 2>the range finder. I had everything, or at least I
<v Speaker 2>thought I did. So I took him out to the rock.
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling him the whole story about what was happening,
<v Speaker 2>and I said, can you walk over to that tree?
<v Speaker 2>So he walks over to the tree. He's standing there,
<v Speaker 2>and I said, all right. So I took out the
<v Speaker 2>range finder and I'm looking at it. I said, okay,
<v Speaker 2>you're you're forty yards away. I said, you want to
<v Speaker 2>raise up your hand, So he raised his hand. Wasn't
<v Speaker 2>high enough, so he raised his hat. Wasn't high enough.
<v Speaker 2>So we got a stick and he started going up
<v Speaker 2>with the stick. And when I told him to stop,
<v Speaker 2>I went down to where he was we measured it.
<v Speaker 2>It was almost nine feet tall, anywhere between eight and
<v Speaker 2>a half nine feet. And when I and the reason
<v Speaker 2>why I saw this thing because it teeter tottered with me.
<v Speaker 2>I leaned to the left when I first saw this thing,
<v Speaker 2>and I couldn't figure out what I was looking at.
<v Speaker 2>And when I stood back, and this thing leaned, so
<v Speaker 2>when I stood up, it stood up, and when it
<v Speaker 2>stood up, it kind of turned. And when I when
<v Speaker 2>it turned, that's how I saw how white it was.
<v Speaker 2>And I saw it from just past the shoulders up
<v Speaker 2>over the to the top of the head. But it
<v Speaker 2>was gone. As fast as I saw it, it was gone,
<v Speaker 2>and there was nobody else saw it. Me and the
<v Speaker 2>gentleman that was beside me. There was a guy in
<v Speaker 2>between us with a GoPro. Everybody says, how come you
<v Speaker 2>never get a picture of a bigfoot. Well, when I
<v Speaker 2>saw it, I pointed at it and I started running
<v Speaker 2>towards it. And there was a gentleman to my left
<v Speaker 2>to my right, on different angle, and he came into
<v Speaker 2>the same go pro frame as I I did, at
<v Speaker 2>the exact same time, pointing in the same direction. And
<v Speaker 2>when he was standing there, he was standing in front
<v Speaker 2>of a tree, and behind the tree is where this
<v Speaker 2>bigfoot was. How ironic is that? So when I took
<v Speaker 2>Tim there, we went through the whole thing and we're
<v Speaker 2>looking at it. I come walking around the tree and
<v Speaker 2>Tim stopped and I said, what's up? And he goes,
<v Speaker 2>look at this, and he's the one that found the print.
<v Speaker 2>And so we cast the print. Well, we called our
<v Speaker 2>We called a friend of ours, John. He was on
<v Speaker 2>his way out to a ball game. Anybody who knows
<v Speaker 2>John knows John goes to the ballgame. So we turned
<v Speaker 2>around and I called him up and I said, you
<v Speaker 2>got to come out here. I said, you won't believe
<v Speaker 2>that we've got a print. I said, we're looking at
<v Speaker 2>it right now. And he goes, no way, and I says,
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you it's here. So he was out on
<v Speaker 2>the highway. He turns around, he comes all the way back.
<v Speaker 2>He had the casting material, so he came back. We
<v Speaker 2>met him out on the dirt road. We got in
<v Speaker 2>this truck and we started driving in. We couldn't have
<v Speaker 2>gotten forty yards in and this loud yell roar, just
<v Speaker 2>like New York, just like New York, came off the
<v Speaker 2>top of the hill. It was like a warning, letting
<v Speaker 2>them know here come then nitwits again. You know. It
<v Speaker 2>was a low roar. It was definitely a warning, but
<v Speaker 2>we still went in. Most people would have left. We
<v Speaker 2>went in and we cast that. And while we're casting that,
<v Speaker 2>I was looking around a little bit more and I said, hey,
<v Speaker 2>what's this? And I could see where this route was across.
<v Speaker 2>There was a root sticking out of the ground just
<v Speaker 2>enough to where the second print it had to be
<v Speaker 2>the toes hitting the bark, peeling it back, but the
<v Speaker 2>ball of the foot was embedded right at the root
<v Speaker 2>and it was a seven foot stride. And that's where
<v Speaker 2>we came up with the other The other print is
<v Speaker 2>is that the same depth as as the heel on
<v Speaker 2>the other ones? It was about three and a half
<v Speaker 2>inches deep, almost four yea and the wall was the
<v Speaker 2>same way, and that was a seven foot stride. Now
<v Speaker 2>you've got something that big to where where can it go?
<v Speaker 2>I mean it had to go somewhere. And the two
<v Speaker 2>gentlemen that were coming down the same path said they
<v Speaker 2>saw nothing and heard nothing, and this thing is heading
<v Speaker 2>in that direction coming We're going right at them. So
<v Speaker 2>where did they go? How's it happen. Why does it happen?
<v Speaker 2>So you got to you gotta be very open minded
<v Speaker 2>because there's too many unexplained things and there's too much
<v Speaker 2>people's people that come out and they put their reputations
<v Speaker 2>on the line and to tell you that, hey, this
<v Speaker 2>is out here, this is what I saw, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and it could destroy some reputations. It almost destroyed by
<v Speaker 2>V Giblan's Giblin's life, so I mean him and his
<v Speaker 2>wife had they went through some wicked ridicules.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, there's well, we get people that talk about
<v Speaker 4>it now only because they you know, it's forty to
<v Speaker 4>fifty sixty years later. It happened when there were kids
<v Speaker 4>or something like that, and now they're okay to talk
<v Speaker 4>about it. Yeah, thanks them a long time to open
<v Speaker 4>up some So it's it's it's one of those topics
<v Speaker 4>that still gets a lot of ridicule, but it's because
<v Speaker 4>of the TV shows it's opened up more.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's softened it up a little bit. It's not
<v Speaker 2>you know.
<v Speaker 4>Plus you've got the uh, you know, the pop culture
<v Speaker 4>icon kind of component to it as well with the
<v Speaker 4>slim gym thing, and you know, discuss is everything's got
<v Speaker 4>a Sasquatch to it now, you know. So it's a
<v Speaker 4>very common thing. It's pop icon, pop culture. So it's
<v Speaker 4>more people open up. It's not so bad. Yeah, it's yeah,
<v Speaker 4>it's not a big scary thing. And now that they
<v Speaker 4>see us at a library, you know, they come out
<v Speaker 4>and they talk and they call us on the phone.
<v Speaker 2>They leave the message is so we're you know, we're
<v Speaker 2>actually getting What we started was to receive messages here
<v Speaker 2>locally Western Mass, eastern New York, northwestern Connecticut, you know,
<v Speaker 2>all that stuff, and.
<v Speaker 4>We start taking names and where they are, and you know,
<v Speaker 4>do the data and you know, log everything, and we
<v Speaker 4>compile a list of what's going on here, primarily around
<v Speaker 4>Western Mass. So you know, I think we're not interested
<v Speaker 4>in Western Mass, New England, you know, but we want.
<v Speaker 2>To learn what's going on here. So the more we're
<v Speaker 2>involved with the community, the more people hear about our community, Uh,
<v Speaker 2>they are a little more opened up. You know.
<v Speaker 4>We we sit there, we're you know, uh, supporting the town,
<v Speaker 4>supporting the police departments and food pantries, all kinds of
<v Speaker 4>things that So it's it's not like, you know, I
<v Speaker 4>guess that's what you need to do if you want
<v Speaker 4>to be. If you want to get reports and things
<v Speaker 4>like that and have people loosen up, is you've got
<v Speaker 4>to become part of the Fabrica town. And you know,
<v Speaker 4>we're the big guys, so it's you know, it's not
<v Speaker 4>a big thing. These guys see.
<v Speaker 2>You, Hey, what's up guys? You know, blah blah blah,
<v Speaker 2>and they give you this or that, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>hooke fun at it. I mean it's Bigfoot, so poke
<v Speaker 2>some fun at But when they have when they have
<v Speaker 2>something happen or an encounter that they can't explain, we're
<v Speaker 2>the ones that they're calling. When they come over after
<v Speaker 2>by themselves, they say, hey, you know what my father
<v Speaker 2>in law was telling me this, or my uncle was
<v Speaker 2>my brother. Yeah, so it's it's all kinds of fun
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that that we're dealing with now. But you know,
<v Speaker 2>it's like some of the questions we were asked for,
<v Speaker 2>is Bigfoot violent? You know? And yeah, I've been asked
<v Speaker 2>that a few times too, But I can't answer that
<v Speaker 2>because I really I don't know. Well, I mean violent,
<v Speaker 2>will it throw rock? Well, I call that a warning
<v Speaker 2>when they throw the rock, it's a warning if they
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be violent. I believe that its accuracy is impeccable.
<v Speaker 2>I think that could be one way that they do
<v Speaker 2>hunt because their accuracy we would be that good. So
<v Speaker 2>when they throw rocks or they throw logs or sticks,
<v Speaker 2>unless they unless it's coming right at you, I think
<v Speaker 2>it's just the warning and they're telling you to get
<v Speaker 2>out of there. Because we have had many of rocks
<v Speaker 2>thrown at us, straight up rocks, twigs, we have, yes,
<v Speaker 2>we've had we've had little ones and we've had the
<v Speaker 2>big ones, and we but we have we have casts
<v Speaker 2>that are small casts, but juvenile. That's what we believe.
<v Speaker 2>We believe that they're juvenile. That's a whole nother story.
<v Speaker 2>That's that's uh labor day, Labor Day twin two, and
<v Speaker 2>it was, uh, you know, basically we get up here
<v Speaker 2>at the same place Eric had is first and original
<v Speaker 2>for this is an in Savoy, Massachusetts, Balanced Rock Savoy. Now,
<v Speaker 2>if you were to google this, it's in the middle
<v Speaker 2>of nowhere. It's in the middle of the woods, in
<v Speaker 2>the middle of nowhere.
<v Speaker 4>There's some footpaths to get to where you got to go,
<v Speaker 4>and that's how we get there. So, you know, we
<v Speaker 4>go there and we're just going you know, for the
<v Speaker 4>sake of time. This was back during.
<v Speaker 2>During yeah, during COVID, it's when everybody was really at
<v Speaker 2>the end of COVID and they were everybody would just
<v Speaker 2>wanted to get out. So we were going to go fishing.
<v Speaker 2>That that's how it all started. We were going to
<v Speaker 2>go fishing, and we went from one of one fishing
<v Speaker 2>hall to another. But there was somebody else in it,
<v Speaker 2>and they all had the same idea. It was to
<v Speaker 2>get out, which is all right because that's what we
<v Speaker 2>were trying to do. So we did that for about
<v Speaker 2>two hours and then we ended up saying, well, let's
<v Speaker 2>go squatching.
<v Speaker 4>Let's go out to Savoy. Yeah, we get out there
<v Speaker 4>or park. We go to the same place. We cross
<v Speaker 4>this creek and we get out there. It's been raining,
<v Speaker 4>it's still raining, and we get out there, we get
<v Speaker 4>the phones out work you know, filming and recording kind
<v Speaker 4>of anything happens, because you know, we're starting to hear
<v Speaker 4>rocks and twigs and little whistles, and so we broke
<v Speaker 4>out the phones. But having it rain and you know,
<v Speaker 4>the phones they don't record very well. And it's had
<v Speaker 4>it's been raining now for about three four days or
<v Speaker 4>days anyway, Uh.
<v Speaker 2>The place we're in has been recently logged, meaning probably
<v Speaker 2>ten ten years, twelve years. So there's a lot of
<v Speaker 2>new green growth shrub twenty feet high, you know, ten
<v Speaker 2>fifteen feet high, real thick, real dense, and it's you know,
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to see through it in you know,
<v Speaker 2>with all the green leaves on it, you don't see
<v Speaker 2>through it. So it's a very dense forest area thirty
<v Speaker 2>yards and so we get in there. We have these
<v Speaker 2>whistles and rocks being thrown at us. We decided we're
<v Speaker 2>going to leave and listen, and we go back to
<v Speaker 2>our truck and.
<v Speaker 4>We're listening, or we're talking about what's going on, and
<v Speaker 4>Eric throws some battery in his recorder and we take
<v Speaker 4>the recorder out this time and we you know, it's
<v Speaker 4>all new batteries, new packaging, all tested, tested and everything
<v Speaker 4>inside the truck.
<v Speaker 2>By the time we got it up there, the batteries
<v Speaker 2>were dead.
<v Speaker 4>So we were we were recording for a little while,
<v Speaker 4>and then uh, this is a second time up the mountain.
<v Speaker 4>Rocks got bigger, sticks got bigger, whistles got a little louder,
<v Speaker 4>and the things coming at us, sticks of rocks were uh,
<v Speaker 4>you know, they'd land in the ferns. The ferns are
<v Speaker 4>you know, two feet high, and you would land three
<v Speaker 4>four five feet away.
<v Speaker 2>And just kind of, you know, make some noise, and
<v Speaker 2>it was close, but they weren't big rocks, you know.
<v Speaker 2>So that's what kind of threw us off.
<v Speaker 4>We at first we just were like what yeah, And
<v Speaker 4>the whistles were very low toned, like it almost sounded
<v Speaker 4>like kids messing with that.
<v Speaker 2>You know, Hey, I'm over here and this.
<v Speaker 4>Guy over here. Yeah, he whistled over there and then
<v Speaker 4>back and forth, and they're throwing rocks and twigs.
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, hey, here's the let's say, let's just
<v Speaker 2>playing the game with us, you know.
<v Speaker 4>So we we left the second time because it got
<v Speaker 4>pretty weird. The nois or rather rock got pretty close,
<v Speaker 4>and we decided we're going to leave and go down
<v Speaker 4>to the truck, and we do. We ended up leaving,
<v Speaker 4>go and have dinner, and we we go down come back,
<v Speaker 4>and uh, we decided at dinner we're going to come
<v Speaker 4>back and try to get to the top.
<v Speaker 2>We go, we park, we get there and we just
<v Speaker 2>book it. We get right up to the very top
<v Speaker 2>and as we get up there, Uh, there's a like
<v Speaker 2>a vertal pool mud puddle plus has been raining for
<v Speaker 2>the four days. It's the only it's the only mud
<v Speaker 2>puddle up there, just right at the topic at beautiful Lot,
<v Speaker 2>and it's right near the balance rock. Yeah, it's right there.
<v Speaker 2>It was right near there. So we get up there
<v Speaker 2>and sure enough there's two tracks that we find right
<v Speaker 2>there in the mud, and it's you know, yeah, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>we couldn't believe it. We're having this experience. We get
<v Speaker 2>chased out of the woods a couple of times, and
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden we're running into these and they
<v Speaker 2>were odd shaped barefoot tracks. They were not bears. They
<v Speaker 2>were either human or bigfoot.
<v Speaker 4>And I'm bearing on the bigfoot because of the you know,
<v Speaker 4>the context of the story and what was happening to us.
<v Speaker 2>So where this whole place is, You're not going to
<v Speaker 2>be out there barefoot. It's just not going to happen.
<v Speaker 2>It's out in the middle of nowhere in the woods.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, a nine ten inch track. It's as big as mine.
<v Speaker 4>It's like it was a nine. It was very deep,
<v Speaker 4>but it was a size shoe that you know, would
<v Speaker 4>fit me a size nine. And so the long story
<v Speaker 4>short it had some weird shape to it. It had
<v Speaker 4>some like the toes were broken. They were very splayed out.
<v Speaker 4>The heel was fairly wide on one uh and it
<v Speaker 4>seemed to have no mid tarsal or they had no
<v Speaker 4>There was no the mid tarsal break was there. There
<v Speaker 4>was no connections on a foot right so, and there
<v Speaker 4>were no claws like you would find in a a track.
<v Speaker 4>I mean this looking at it is either no, it's
<v Speaker 4>one or the other. But that's it. So you know,
<v Speaker 4>it's raining out. We got nothing really to cast because
<v Speaker 4>we were going to go fishing. We had run into
<v Speaker 4>this situation. We didn't plan for it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we believe, you know, second guessing this whole situation
<v Speaker 2>was that when we went back into the third time,
<v Speaker 2>they weren't expecting it, and I we believed that we
<v Speaker 2>spooked them enough and they ran through that puddle and
<v Speaker 2>that's how we got those those two friends. They didn't
<v Speaker 2>know what to do because they're just little, you know,
<v Speaker 2>they're juveniles, and they never expect us to come in.
<v Speaker 2>Otherwise I don't think they would have been there. But
<v Speaker 2>the part about it was the tracks were dry. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>they were right next to the pond or next to
<v Speaker 2>the puddle and they were dry. They were like you
<v Speaker 2>just put your foot in and pulled it out, you know,
<v Speaker 2>the whole and there it was perfectly dry, and otherwise
<v Speaker 2>it would have been filled up with rain because it
<v Speaker 2>was raining. Currently as we were speaking, it was raining
<v Speaker 2>and we're looking at these two tracks that now we
<v Speaker 2>decided we're going to cast or we don't have material,
<v Speaker 2>so have we built a birch bark trap and a
<v Speaker 2>tripod and the TP over it so we cover it up. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>We didn't want something to wreck the track, and it
<v Speaker 4>was getting late, so we left.
<v Speaker 2>We're going to come back the next morning. It's six
<v Speaker 2>o'clock in the morning when I have to tell you
<v Speaker 2>him out, I was telling him. I so let's get there,
<v Speaker 2>you know, early morning so we can beat the kids
<v Speaker 2>waking up. Yeah. Yeah, we get up there and at
<v Speaker 2>six o'clock in the morning, it's still raining a little bit,
<v Speaker 2>and we get up there and we're going to cast
<v Speaker 2>the tracks, so we'd mix up all the mud, put
<v Speaker 2>the forms out, cast both tracks, and then we take
<v Speaker 2>a walk off from where we were casting. Now we're
<v Speaker 2>letting the tracks dry, and we go over where k
<v Speaker 2>had his bigfoot experience. It's, you know, we're kind of
<v Speaker 2>run meniscing and bull you just kind of hanging out
<v Speaker 2>in the cash. I walked, Yeah, I figured all these years,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I see if I could find that in
<v Speaker 2>my rock again. I walked right to that rock. It's
<v Speaker 2>like I know exactly where to walk when I'm up there.
<v Speaker 2>And there was a lot of limbs down this time.
<v Speaker 2>So we're standing there, We're just kind of talking and
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, no, this was a day just like when
<v Speaker 2>I saw mine. You know, the the rain, the quiet,
<v Speaker 2>the woods were super quiet, and then all of a sudden,
<v Speaker 2>it couldn't have been seventy eighty yards away from us,
<v Speaker 2>directly out in front of us, there was a knock.
<v Speaker 2>It was a wood knock, it was it was absolutely
<v Speaker 2>wood on wood, and it was just one big bang
<v Speaker 2>Louisville slugger type. It was unbelievable. And all of a sudden,
<v Speaker 2>in different spots out in front of us, something rose
<v Speaker 2>off the ground. Something got up off the ground, multiple
<v Speaker 2>something in multiple different places. No noise, no you know,
<v Speaker 2>no stretching, no nothing, and they just started moving. We
<v Speaker 2>never saw they never made a sound. Did you you
<v Speaker 2>you heard it get up and after that, you didn't
<v Speaker 2>hear nothing, right, And it's.
<v Speaker 4>Almost instantly, instantaneously after the.
<v Speaker 2>Right after the window, it's almost like it was being guarded.
<v Speaker 2>And when they realized that we are still standing there,
<v Speaker 2>they said they did a wood knock, which was the
<v Speaker 2>alarm to get up and move, and whatever was there
<v Speaker 2>was just crawled away. And we believe that was the
<v Speaker 2>young ones they were, they were still sleeping, because it
<v Speaker 2>was the young ones that we chased out. And now
<v Speaker 2>we have us. We have two tracks, one going in
<v Speaker 2>one direction, one going in the other, and they're both
<v Speaker 2>small prints and one has broken toes and they're different
<v Speaker 2>to different two different tracks, two different sizes. So I
<v Speaker 2>saw an adult one and here here we're having an
<v Speaker 2>encounter with juvenile ones. We believe that's what they are.
<v Speaker 2>There would be no other. I can't imagine anybody, a
<v Speaker 2>human being there after four days of rain, barefooted in
<v Speaker 2>the woods. I mean, we just don't have those kind
<v Speaker 2>of hermits out here, you know. Plus they would have
<v Speaker 2>had to be throwing rocks and whistling at each other, true,
<v Speaker 2>all the way through the woods at us, because that's
<v Speaker 2>why we got walked out, right. So so there there's that,
<v Speaker 2>So they'd had to be really messing.
<v Speaker 4>With your hardcore for a couple of kids to be
<v Speaker 4>messing with a couple of guys that were off that
<v Speaker 4>we're going to just go fishing.
<v Speaker 2>So that's that's, you know, that's the story on on
<v Speaker 2>our And then well then what we did after that
<v Speaker 2>knock and we heard them, we heard those things get
<v Speaker 2>up and move. Tim says, well, let's get out of here,
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, well, I want to see what
<v Speaker 2>they are, because you know, I saw one. I wanted
<v Speaker 2>to see if I could see another. But you know,
<v Speaker 2>like he said, he said, you know, that could be
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of bears. It could be this, it could
<v Speaker 2>be that. And I said, okay, let's get out of here. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So we turned around and we went back and I
<v Speaker 2>laid out the plastic bag and I just I was
<v Speaker 2>hoping that they were hard enough that they wouldn't break
<v Speaker 2>when I took them and flipped them over. And I
<v Speaker 2>was lucky enough that they flipped over and they didn't
<v Speaker 2>turn around, and they didn't they didn't break, they didn't
<v Speaker 2>do anything. And I stuffed them into the backpack and
<v Speaker 2>we got out of there. We went down the hill. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>contemplated on what just happened. You know, in two days,
<v Speaker 2>we had some incredible things happened to us, you know,
<v Speaker 2>from whistles, knocks, small little pebble rocks being thrown, the
<v Speaker 2>finding tracks and having a wood knock and all of
<v Speaker 2>a sudden the things moving. Yeah, that was pretty that
<v Speaker 2>was pretty intense weekend. So then we come back, we
<v Speaker 2>cast the tracks. We got to let them wait, you know,
<v Speaker 2>probably a week before.
<v Speaker 4>We can actually kind of clean them up and make
<v Speaker 4>heads and tails out of what we're looking at. And
<v Speaker 4>when we finally did, first person we contacted was doctor Meldrum.
<v Speaker 4>And doctor Meldrom he you know, he instantly, you know,
<v Speaker 4>we sent them photos. We never give him any backstory
<v Speaker 4>or anything. We just give some and we've sent them
<v Speaker 4>a number of photos, you know, honestly, and and he's
<v Speaker 4>you know, usually saying, hey, that's nice or it's got
<v Speaker 4>potential you know this that or the other thing. But
<v Speaker 4>this time, because of the size of the foot, he
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't he wouldn't jump on the fence of the big foot.
<v Speaker 4>What he did say was because they're human size, human like,
<v Speaker 4>what these tracks had was character. You know, they had
<v Speaker 4>some broken you know, we call them the East West
<v Speaker 4>toes because they were broken simply the second and third
<v Speaker 4>toe to stray and they go in two different directions.
<v Speaker 4>And you know, I'm sure mom and Daddy are going
<v Speaker 4>to let their kids out there were broken toes or
<v Speaker 4>that's probably how they got them broke, you know, something
<v Speaker 4>like that, you know, stubbing your toe, getting it cracked.
<v Speaker 4>And so these things, said, uh had great characteristics. Doctor
<v Speaker 4>Mildren said, well, because.
<v Speaker 2>They were little, and I believe that there's not there
<v Speaker 2>aren't any others to match it up with midterms. Break
<v Speaker 2>actually has that whole floating section in the middle.
<v Speaker 4>It was really really cool to have him look at
<v Speaker 4>it and say, I like them guys, but you know
<v Speaker 4>it's two human solf.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, that's fine. That's what his job was. To look
<v Speaker 2>at the story. When you when you see the situation,
<v Speaker 2>when you see the how how the tracks came up,
<v Speaker 2>came about through that story, it's it's it's in the
<v Speaker 2>same vicinity where where I had mine. And then there's
<v Speaker 2>other stories out of there of bigfoot sightings. So it's
<v Speaker 2>a very active area. So anything is a possibility, right, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you know, even though we didn't see it, those tracks
<v Speaker 2>are there. I haven't found anybody else that has small
<v Speaker 2>prints or juvenile print or what they'll say is a
<v Speaker 2>juvenile print yessides these. I remember watching a podcast doctor
<v Speaker 2>Meldrim saying that there isn't a library of prints of
<v Speaker 2>juvenile so they don't have a database to look or
<v Speaker 2>pull from. So, you know, how big is a footprint
<v Speaker 2>from a two year old Bigfoot or a six month
<v Speaker 2>old Bigfoot? Is it what I just cast an air cast?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You don't know, because we don't have
<v Speaker 2>a record or a library, so it's it's kind of
<v Speaker 2>out there assumption maybe, But so given the context of
<v Speaker 2>the story and what happened to us, you know, that's
<v Speaker 2>what we believe. So we believe we had a juvenile
<v Speaker 2>encounter with multiple and we cast two tracks that you know,
<v Speaker 2>if you've got casts that you've taken, that our juveniles
<v Speaker 2>send us a picture. We'd love to see him to
<v Speaker 2>compare to see where we have whole nine years.
<v Speaker 4>That'd be great, That would be honest, you know, that
<v Speaker 4>would be very helpful in some of the research that
<v Speaker 4>we do. You know, part of what we're doing with
<v Speaker 4>the Cobble Mountain Critter Project is trying to I think
<v Speaker 4>at the end of the year we're having a we're
<v Speaker 4>still in the final stage you' putting together, but we're
<v Speaker 4>going to do a researcher rendezvous and it's going to
<v Speaker 4>be Bigfoot researchers getting together collaboratively in one area in
<v Speaker 4>our camp right here and where we held the Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>we had the Cobble Mountain Critter Festival June seventh last year,
<v Speaker 4>so we'll have it here at the same site, at
<v Speaker 4>the Cobble Mountain Critter Place. And you know, it's going
<v Speaker 4>to be researchers a big name, no name, any name.
<v Speaker 4>We want researchers that are going to come and tell
<v Speaker 4>us their story. What we're looking for is not just
<v Speaker 4>a story. What your research, your investigations, How do you
<v Speaker 4>do this, how do you do that? What happens if
<v Speaker 4>this happens. We're looking to create patterns. We're to see similarities.
<v Speaker 4>Is your Bigfoot in New York the same as ours?
<v Speaker 4>Or is it in Virginia?
<v Speaker 2>Is it different? You know, if we're down the floor,
<v Speaker 2>it is it different. So we all kind of have
<v Speaker 2>these theories and ideas and we talk, but this is
<v Speaker 2>going to be a place where we can get together
<v Speaker 2>and and you know, and and try to have a
<v Speaker 2>conversation and try to put something together, so there's a
<v Speaker 2>network of people that are on the same page as
<v Speaker 2>to what bigfoot behaviors are going on.
<v Speaker 4>You know, if somebody's got something going on down in
<v Speaker 4>Pennsylvania or Maryland or something like that and they're not
<v Speaker 4>sharing that information, and I have the same situation up
<v Speaker 4>here in Western mass then it's new.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't.
<v Speaker 4>There's no one sharing information, you know, So how do
<v Speaker 4>you know if it's a big foot thing or pattern
<v Speaker 4>or this or that if no one's sharing information.
<v Speaker 2>So that's the whole premise of this thing we want
<v Speaker 2>to do, you know, a collaboration of people doing research
<v Speaker 2>work and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, it'll it'll be good,
<v Speaker 2>it will be fun, it'll be a new it. It'll
<v Speaker 2>be a new stepping stone for us. We're from the
<v Speaker 2>Rhonda from the festival to the Rendezvout and then next
<v Speaker 2>year we're going back to the festival, so we're gonna
<v Speaker 2>keep it road rotating. So it should be it should
<v Speaker 2>be good, and it should be a lot of fun. Yep. Uh. So,
<v Speaker 2>I guess if you want to get in contact with us,
<v Speaker 2>if you have a Bigfoot experience. Just go to Facebook
<v Speaker 2>get the Vogel Brothers. Or you can go to the
<v Speaker 2>Cobble Mountain Critter Project ye on Facebook as well and
<v Speaker 2>contact us through Messenger. You can go to the Cobble
<v Speaker 2>Mountain Critter Project dot org. Go to our website. See
<v Speaker 2>what we're doing, see where we've been. We have a schedule.
<v Speaker 4>We have an outdoor educations component where we have a
<v Speaker 4>schedule where you come in and learn leave no trace,
<v Speaker 4>fire building.
<v Speaker 2>Survival skills, outdoor skills, you name it. Anything outdoors. You
<v Speaker 2>can buy t shirts, stickers, all that stuff. Don't forget
<v Speaker 2>the merch boom A little shout out to the wojo.
<v Speaker 2>So with our business, we had another business called to
<v Speaker 2>Co the Mountain Outdoors and we'd send retired that since
<v Speaker 2>the whole COVID mess And we used to do a
<v Speaker 2>lot of outdoor education, school work, ropes, course team building,
<v Speaker 2>things like that with football teams, classes, different groups and whatnot.
<v Speaker 2>And we're in a little town called Lakeville, Connecticut, at
<v Speaker 2>this little private school I won't give them up right,
<v Speaker 2>but little private school in northwest Connecticut.
<v Speaker 4>And we were the guys, we were the adventure guys
<v Speaker 4>out there in northwest Connecticut. We did a lot of
<v Speaker 4>team building programs, a lot of boarding schools, private schools,
<v Speaker 4>things like that, and we used this one particular mountain
<v Speaker 4>and you know, just it was nice, private and it
<v Speaker 4>was quiet, and they had a ropes course up there
<v Speaker 4>that we would use.
<v Speaker 2>So we're up there for a weekend.
<v Speaker 4>And we've been working with these programs now for ten
<v Speaker 4>years or so, and.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, same spot, same same area, So we've been down
<v Speaker 2>there quite a bit.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so we get down there and we're having a
<v Speaker 4>big uh burgers and whatnot. The kids are walking up
<v Speaker 4>the mountain. They do a Bible study up the top
<v Speaker 4>of the mountain. They go up to the very top
<v Speaker 4>of the mounta where this chimney was or it used
<v Speaker 4>to be a cabinet burned down, and they go up.
<v Speaker 4>They do an hour or two Bible study, and then
<v Speaker 4>they come down and Eric and I are fixing dinner
<v Speaker 4>and the grill, and you know that that's kind of
<v Speaker 4>when all of a sudden, this gint.
<v Speaker 2>Well they yet, well, they came down. The they all
<v Speaker 2>came down and they're sitting around the the it's about
<v Speaker 2>thirty people. They're sitting around on the picnic tables, under
<v Speaker 2>the tar. But we're in there, We're getting ready to
<v Speaker 2>give them dinner, and I'm pouring a coffee and the
<v Speaker 2>pastors to my left, Tims to my right, And as
<v Speaker 2>I'm pouring a cup of coffee, from the top of
<v Speaker 2>the mountain where they just came from, there was a
<v Speaker 2>high pitched sirene sound like you flipped the switch and
<v Speaker 2>it went on and it went for like ten fifteen seconds,
<v Speaker 2>maybe a little bit longer, and it just shut up,
<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, the pastors just looking at me,
<v Speaker 2>and his eyes are really huge, and I said, yep,
<v Speaker 2>I says, I said. I looked at him and all
<v Speaker 2>I said was yep, And Tim says, yeah, bigfoot. And
<v Speaker 2>it came over on the arc and he just started
<v Speaker 2>laughing because he was like, he says, I can't believe that.
<v Speaker 2>He goes what it was it? And I said, well,
<v Speaker 2>we don't know, but we have a good idea or
<v Speaker 2>what it was, because there's no you know, everybody says,
<v Speaker 2>you know it was there a Sireene up there was
<v Speaker 2>there a volunteer Sireene air raid thing from back in
<v Speaker 2>the day. There's nothing up there. It's just a mountain
<v Speaker 2>and a burnt down house with a chimney, said nothing
<v Speaker 2>up there.
<v Speaker 4>So what we heard was a siren h and that
<v Speaker 4>was the first plant and we kind.
<v Speaker 2>Of say that it's a bigfoot whistle. Today we call
<v Speaker 2>that a bigfoot whistle. It was just very loud. Some
<v Speaker 2>of going through the investigations later on talking to some people,
<v Speaker 2>they told us that that was what they would classify
<v Speaker 2>as a big foot whistle too. Yeah, they had the
<v Speaker 2>similar experience on the Long Trails. Have been multiple reports.
<v Speaker 4>Similar to this, and it's we're classifying as a whistle.
<v Speaker 4>So that night we had a whistle. Then all of
<v Speaker 4>a sudden, the coyotes start going off. They're yipping and
<v Speaker 4>yipping and yip, and there's probably half a dozen of
<v Speaker 4>them there so and it.
<v Speaker 2>Sounds like they're on a kill. So the coyotes are
<v Speaker 2>just going nuts vocally, they're just you know, yipping like crazy.
<v Speaker 4>And then a little while later the owls start going off.
<v Speaker 4>And this is in the springtime, so there's probably a
<v Speaker 4>territorial thing going on, but there's probably at least you know,
<v Speaker 4>three or four, maybe half a dozen owls that are
<v Speaker 4>kind of battling it as well. So you got the
<v Speaker 4>owls and the coyotes all going off at the same time,
<v Speaker 4>and it's a very surreal because all these kids are
<v Speaker 4>coming out of the city. They never heard it. I mean,
<v Speaker 4>we barely heard. We've heard things like this, but not
<v Speaker 4>at the same time.
<v Speaker 2>No, so we kind of didn't think nothing of it,
<v Speaker 2>you know, and we went off. Thought it was kind
<v Speaker 2>of wild. Yeah, So we went up to our camp.
<v Speaker 2>There was nighttime. We went over to where we were staying.
<v Speaker 2>Tim and I were camping out. Everybody's going to bed,
<v Speaker 2>They're all going to bed. It was it was late,
<v Speaker 2>so I sleep in a hammock. So I get in
<v Speaker 2>the hammock. I'm laying there and I'm just relaxing, and
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, you can hear them running down
<v Speaker 2>the hill. You can hear the coyotes coming. You can
<v Speaker 2>literally hear their bodies and their paws hitting the ground.
<v Speaker 2>And all I did was I yelled over to Tim
<v Speaker 2>and I said, oh, man, I hope I'm high enough
<v Speaker 2>off the ground. And I know sooner said that that
<v Speaker 2>you could literally I have an underquilt underneath my handing,
<v Speaker 2>and that that coyote come flying underneath that hammock, and
<v Speaker 2>I could just feel the underquilt move and I says,
<v Speaker 2>oh man, And there had to be about ten of
<v Speaker 2>them that came down. But they came through the whole
<v Speaker 2>camp all at one time. And I said Tim, I said,
<v Speaker 2>did you hear them? And he goes, yeah, yeah, no,
<v Speaker 2>you could certainly hear them. There was no doubt they
<v Speaker 2>were coming running through camp. And then once they ran
<v Speaker 2>through camp, that was the intent of it. They were gone.
<v Speaker 2>But we never had that before. We never had them
<v Speaker 2>on our side. They're usually over on the farm. And
<v Speaker 2>that's what changed. The whole night was different than than
<v Speaker 2>normal that we've had in prior times of being down there,
<v Speaker 2>and we've been down there for years, so you know,
<v Speaker 2>we kind of just kind of blew it off. Thought
<v Speaker 2>it was weird had the bigfoot howl or rather than
<v Speaker 2>the whistle. And then uh so everybody.
<v Speaker 4>Leaves, we're getting ready to break down camp and there's
<v Speaker 4>this big oak tree that's you know, it's kind of
<v Speaker 4>it had been blown down in a storm and all
<v Speaker 4>the all the leaves were still on it, and so
<v Speaker 4>we're sitting there breaking down the campsite and you could
<v Speaker 4>hear something walking behind the tree and we thought it
<v Speaker 4>was a deer.
<v Speaker 2>Actually I didn't even think much of it. It was,
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe a deer or so. I actually walked
<v Speaker 2>over to the to the edge where it kind of
<v Speaker 2>rolled over where the tree was, and I didn't see nothing.
<v Speaker 2>There was nothing. We heard it, but you know, I
<v Speaker 2>didn't see nothing, So it wasn't I think maybe it
<v Speaker 2>was a squirrel because the deer. It wasn't a deer
<v Speaker 2>because I didn't see no deer, but it was walking
<v Speaker 2>towards that that tree that he's talking about. And then
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, you know, kind of just heard
<v Speaker 2>this thing come flying through the trees. You just heard
<v Speaker 2>like a rock knocking branches as it came through the trees.
<v Speaker 2>Literally could hear it hitting the branches always, just like that.
<v Speaker 2>Just it was kind of bizarre. So that caught our attention.
<v Speaker 2>We didn't know what it was. And the canopy of
<v Speaker 2>the trees probably six to the edge, just headed eighty
<v Speaker 2>feet wide and it came all the way through that.
<v Speaker 2>So something through a candle sized, yeah, cannon and ball size, right,
<v Speaker 2>it's like a ball small bowling ball. Yeah, it was
<v Speaker 2>a small It was a bowling ball size, so it
<v Speaker 2>was that bigger than a softball, and it was Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it landed like ten fifteen feet in front of us.
<v Speaker 2>I was like wow. I says, okay, it's time to go,
<v Speaker 2>and we just started packing up. We said we're leaving.
<v Speaker 2>Gotten a jeep enough and that was the extended Yeah
<v Speaker 2>we could. We got out of there. We tried to
<v Speaker 2>talk about it later, you know, try to figure out
<v Speaker 2>what it was, and we.
<v Speaker 5>Can't come up with anything. You know, people say, why
<v Speaker 5>didn't you get the rock? We get DNA whenever he
<v Speaker 5>wasn't thought of that. I'm thinking, oh, wasn't even thinking that.
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, we got.
<v Speaker 4>Friends now that talk about doing DNA, and we have
<v Speaker 4>some connections that that may be doing it, but it's
<v Speaker 4>it's a costantly adventure.
<v Speaker 2>So we don't have that.
<v Speaker 4>But you know, as far as the uh, you know,
<v Speaker 4>making reports and things like that, if you're around Western
<v Speaker 4>mass New England and you've got to report, yeah, or.
<v Speaker 2>You having here coming in this direction, keep an eye
<v Speaker 2>on our website. Yeah, go to the website and go
<v Speaker 2>to the Critter contact page and just fill out. It's
<v Speaker 2>a real simple report, and you know, we'll keep contact
<v Speaker 2>and we'll stay in contact and you know, maybe we'll
<v Speaker 2>have you out as a one of the research rendez
<v Speaker 2>vows and you know there certain things like that. So
<v Speaker 2>that's what we're trying to do.
<v Speaker 4>Local reports, local history and local law and getting the
<v Speaker 4>kids out outdoors, youth outdoor education.
<v Speaker 2>And that's pretty much it for us. Yeah, that's it.
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's it for tonight's show. If you've had a
<v Speaker 3>big foot siding and would like to be a guest,
<v Speaker 3>please go to my Bigfoot Siding dot com and let
<v Speaker 3>us know. Thanks for listening. Have a great night seeing
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of run down now host towns with the
<v Speaker 3>Church of the Backbone, Loves and the Bow and the
<v Speaker 3>pastoring melodies Coove in the bomb, then Rose Ruse, run
<v Speaker 3>deep beyond the nose of the busy streets with the
<v Speaker 3>songs of the South of su Then I mean, I
<v Speaker 3>hear the prompt porch picking down home rhythm, bringing nut
<v Speaker 3>I don't run from banjung music. Yeah, the sound of
<v Speaker 3>a memory brings me back to the bluegrass playing the
<v Speaker 3>madaddy Jack. It's become an it been through it, getting
<v Speaker 3>through the day on scrubs and skags, bucking name bears,
<v Speaker 3>through this Tennessee jams.
<v Speaker 2>There's no the way that I do it.
<v Speaker 3>And I hear the bump porch picking down home rhythm,
<v Speaker 3>bringing nat I don't run from Banjong music. Yeah, summon
<v Speaker 3>dollar backwards backwood and double time freaking and the sword
<v Speaker 3>and the drummer look and took a star. There's the
<v Speaker 3>indoms strumming out, cut your boy living warm, and I
<v Speaker 3>hear the bum boats picking down rhythm bringing us that
<v Speaker 3>on front from Manus.
<v Speaker 2>The city that trust me wild on the two.
<v Speaker 3>Music cars rushing by with the beasts on the stoos
<v Speaker 3>to man When I hear the brown bus picking down
<v Speaker 3>rythm bringing nuts run from Manju music. Yeah, something going
<v Speaker 3>backwards backwards and double tim picking in the sword and
<v Speaker 3>the strumming look and took a star. There's a strumming
<v Speaker 3>cut your boy living.
<v Speaker 2>Man.
<v Speaker 3>I hear a bum boat picking down rhythm bringing downs
<v Speaker 3>that'll from the bud sing ga backwards backwards and double
<v Speaker 3>time picking and the soul and the drumming looking took
<v Speaker 3>a stop because the end of trumming down, because you
<v Speaker 3>won't leaving. And I hear the bombots picking down bring
<v Speaker 3>the batchick and botsmin Mona's ver sweet tea kind of
<v Speaker 3>sund that old from Bago music

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