158 | The Moment It All Clicked: Unexpected Paths to a Career in CCPT

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You're listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks.

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Your source for centered and focused play therapy coaching.

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Hi, I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks, The Kid Counselor.

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In today's episode.

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I am going to go over some unofficial data that

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I collected which I'll get into in just a moment.

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I sent out an email to my

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email subscribers

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and polled them about finding CCPT and what that career path was like.

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So we'll dive into that. I got some really interesting results there.

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So I want to share that with you all.

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All right. So let's dive in.

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So the question I sent out a while back

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was I had just observed in random discovery

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calls and random coaching conversations and random Collective interactions

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that

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many people were saying that they used to do XYZ

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and then they found child-centered play therapy.

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I kind of saw this common thread being woven together and so it, you know, my brain,

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right?

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I want to know the why and I love research.

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So I thought I need to find out more about this.

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So in my email newsletter, I emailed everyone and said, hey,

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is this a second or third career for you?

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If so, you know, can you share your journey with me?

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I'd love to hear how you found child centered play therapy

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and what you might have done before

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you found this field.

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So we

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thematically coded all the results and oh my gosh,

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thank you to those of you that emailed me back.

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I had so many of you respond to that email. So it obviously

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struck a chord, right?

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And I want to not only give you the list of what

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people said they did before they found child centered play therapy.

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But I want to go through some of the themes that I pulled out.

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And I, I'm just, I'm so encouraged by this.

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I'm fascinated by this and I think you will be too.

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It really speaks to

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how child centered play therapy finds us. We don't find it.

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And I'm really excited about some of the stuff that came out of this

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discussion. So

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let me read you the list of what people said they did first. We'll start there.

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So all of the people that responded said, yes,

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this is either a second or a third career for me.

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And then here's what I did before. I'm just gonna read these to you.

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Nurse,

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enlisted in the military

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linguist,

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worked with the mandated population,

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teacher,

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school counselor,

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advertising and marketing,

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child protective services,

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masseuse,

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human services,

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victim advocacy,

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nanny

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worked in women's refuge

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administration,

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parenting coach

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at a boarding school

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poly sci political science. Sorry, that was my abbreviation,

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journalism,

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biology,

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sports medicine,

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parole officer,

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political researcher

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and a bed and breakfast.

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Isn't this so fascinating y'all? It makes me smile just hearing this.

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Look at all of the different avenues, the different former careers,

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the the different path, right?

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And then lo and behold, we're all now doing child centered play therapy.

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This is so fascinating to me and you know, obviously I say divine intervention,

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divine orchestration

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but I wanted to hear from all of those that responded, you know, what,

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what are some themes that I could pull out of this and, and how did this unfold?

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What did this look like?

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I wanna share that with y'all because many of you are in this position. Number one.

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But those of you who

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happens to go straight into the child-centered play

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therapy at the start of your career,

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know that you are rare

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and it is not something that I'm seeing as, you know,

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you get out of grad school and

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you're immediately doing child-centered play therapy.

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That was my path. But

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I think those of us that are in that scenario were the outliers.

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So here are some themes that we pulled out of the email responses.

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Many, many people said that moving to child

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play therapy

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was a very significant career shift.

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And you could see in the list of what they did before.

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In other words, it was not like uh well, I was already doing therapy.

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I just decided I wanted to do child-centered instead.

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You know, it was from education, health care,

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social work like all kinds of other things.

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But it was driven by a desire to have a more direct therapeutic impact on children.

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Once you start to work with kids,

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whether you choose it or whether you are kind of forced into it,

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you realize very quickly that you don't have the

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the skill set that is going to be effective

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and that forces you to try to figure something out.

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And so many, many came to the child-centered world

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because it was a massive shift.

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But the desire was there to help people therapy, help children therapeutically

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common theme was that many of you all found CCPT serendipitously.

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In other words,

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you weren't really seeking it.

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You were just kind of exploring or trying to

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figure something out or you were doing some research

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on what am I supposed to do with this eight year old client that I just got.

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And all of a sudden you started learning about child-centered principles

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and it just resonated with you.

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And then therefore you start pursuing training and

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education and certification and all of that.

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But so many people said that it was absolutely life changing

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when they found CCPT, which is my story, which is so many of our stories, right?

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You, you just feel like you found yourself, you found home,

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you found what you've always needed but didn't know it.

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And that's the story that was told again and again and again, in the emails,

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one of the major barriers and challenges

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to becoming child-centered that was reported is lack of local training

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and just not having access to child-centered education training,

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background content.

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All of that, which is

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arguably why you found my podcast.

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So, you know,

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thank God for that because for those of you

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that were really struggling and couldn't find anything locally,

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you at least have the podcast.

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And another theme is that the fulfillment

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was just incredible for those that switched.

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And so many told stories of profound personal and professional fulfillment.

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As soon as they started practicing child centered play therapy,

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seeing the effectiveness and the joy of

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watching change with children in the playroom.

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The the fulfillment and the impact that has brought has been incredible.

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And that's why we love this job, right?

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Community and support is something that I saw

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again and again and again was crucially needed.

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Everyone said they wanted

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formal and informal

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training programs that

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are really centered around a community. In other words,

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you know, how can we discuss things, how can we debrief on things,

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have case consultations, you know, the support and the community that is needed

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has become something that many, many of you all are asking for and talking about,

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which is why the Collective exists.

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So

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I'm trying y'all, I'm, I'm doing my part.

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I'm trying to listen to what you're asking for.

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And professional development was the final theme where many of you are very deeply

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committed to advancing your skills and becoming the best CCPT that you can

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and begging for

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learning and professional growth through all

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different kinds of training opportunities.

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And therefore, I'm partnering with

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CoreWell for CEUs. So

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I really do listen, when you all give me feedback,

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it matters and that's why I asked for it and I want you to know that

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what I do is for you all and I,

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I'm always interested and I care about what matters to

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you and what you all need and what you want.

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So

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thank you so much for those of you that, that emailed in.

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Let me give you a couple other things that came through in these stories.

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90%

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of people that responded.

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Now, granted the question was, are any of you all second or third career people?

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So for those who were not second or third career people,

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you probably wouldn't have emailed me.

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So keep in mind that there's a skew here in this data, but I'm just giving you numbers.

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90% of the people that responded said that finding

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child-centered play therapy was a second or third career,

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85% discovered it through a pivotal

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experience either personally or professionally.

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It was like a life changing moment when they found CPT 85%

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60% cited barriers to accessing child-centered training.

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That's crazy y'all. Oh my gosh, we need so much more CCPT training in the world.

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And then

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75% mentioned the importance of having support and community in their journey.

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So wanting a community around them, wanting colleagues to help and guide and

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serve as a support for them.

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that's gosh, this is so fun. I hope that you all are enjoying this.

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Like I love numbers. Maybe you're bored out of your mind.

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But I think this is fascinating.

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All right.

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So a couple other things that I want

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to highlight because through this coding process,

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we were actually able to pull out some deeper motivations

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for becoming child-centered.

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And even if you are not a second or third career,

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I think these deeper motivations will be hugely important

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for you and you will definitely connect with these.

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So

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many, many of the respondents were drawn to CCPT

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as part of their own personal healing journey.

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And we've talked about this in the Six Figure Play Therapist

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in the Play Therapy Pro Certification in the Collective.

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This has been a conversation that I've had with a lot of people.

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It is incredible how our own healing journey

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takes place through child centered play therapy.

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I so many of you have mentioned it and I just,

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I know this is true and I'm so glad that this was something that was shared.

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So many stories revealed a history of working

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in really high stress or emotionally draining jobs.

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And that CCPT was like a new professional path

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and allowed self healing and self work to be done.

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Because look, you can't give, I talked about this in the interview with Brandy.

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You can't give kids

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these things without giving it to yourself. First. You learn how to be

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child-centered to yourself in this process

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because you, you have to extend it to yourself first.

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And there's so much beauty in that and that's where the healing comes from.

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So, personal healing was a big motivation.

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Second is so many stories were about

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a deep

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rooted desire to make a positive impact in kids' lives

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and that's the alignment with the core values of CCPT, right?

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So

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many individuals left high play. Hey, oh my gosh, high paying jobs,

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they left security in their professions

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to pursue a career in play therapy because it was about

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deep meaning and impact more than it was about the money.

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And look, you can make good money being a child centered play therapist.

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I'm not saying you need to be poor to do this job.

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And that's what we talk about a lot in Six Figure Play Therapist.

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But I just, that was something that came out again and again, many of them said

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I just, my one and only desire is to help kids.

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really successful business or if I have to leave a really, really good job to do this,

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it's worth it to me.

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the connection

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align with CCPT.

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that lends itself toward person centered and child

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that there's just no way around it.

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can't get its grips on you the way that it does

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if you are theoretically aligned with a different approach.

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your beliefs, make sense

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that is why you're so drawn to it.

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And there's the connection and there's the relatability

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and a child led approach.

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Many, many people talked about how they believe it's more ethical.

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Many people believe that it's more effective and which it is right.

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compared to traditional directive methods,

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it just, it felt right. And that's something that I heard again and again and again

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and it just quote, never felt right.

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Quote, like there's all of these, you know, phrases that people say

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your theoretical model has to align.

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So many of the responses came from people of faith.

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I'm actually gonna tell you a quote that someone said in their response.

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I really believe if Jesus were a play therapist,

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he would use child-centered play therapy.

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biblical principles very closely align with child-centered play therapy

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and our understanding of the world

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and unconditional love and unconditional acceptance

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the fruit of the spirit and all of the things that we believe as a faith filled person,

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we can see that in child-centered play therapy.

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And so so many said that faith was another connection that they had to this,

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which there's the connection and the relatability for people, right?

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it's because you have beliefs that align with it

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and that's very powerful.

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All right. And then a couple other things I wanted to share just kind of as some

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Many, many people talked about feeling that there was an isolation factor.

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As soon as they found child centered play therapy,

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they felt completely isolated and alone with no support.

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it is so important, especially in regions where CCPT is less recognized

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to be a part of a community that understands it and gets it

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and will support you.

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So please take advantage of the Collective, take advantage of the coaching groups,

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listen to the podcast, be a part of the newsletter.

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those are ways that you stay connected and you don't feel like you're so alone.

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That's so important.

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I've learned that the hard way too, you know, I,

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I've done everything on my own for a really long time

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and it's lonely

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and it's hard and it doesn't have to be.

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you eventually ended up re evaluating your goals as

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soon as you found child centered play therapy,

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which I love

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because you want

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personal fulfillment in work

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and you want to really feel like you're making a difference.

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And then finally, all of you want more education and training about CCPT.

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So here we are

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doing some training on CCPT in a podcast

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and all kinds of other things.

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All right. So I hope that you found that helpful. I hope that

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that encourages you for those of you that are 2nd and 3rd career CCPT-ers welcome.

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We are so glad you're here. We're so glad the field is growing

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and for those of us that have either been doing this for a really long time and or,

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you know, we started out doing child-centered that that's rare,

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but that's a gift too in and of itself.

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It's a gift to find it after you've done something else I think.

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We are a growing community

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the thing that we care about more than anything else is helping kids

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and that is noble, honorable work and it just encourages me,

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makes me so happy. I watched a video review this morning in one of the coaching groups

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and many of us were in tears watching the work that this little girl was doing.

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so profound and so deep and so necessary and so healing for her

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and big stuff coming out in a play session and all of us,

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I mean, like we were all sitting there like crying at the end of it

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watching

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what child-centered play therapy does.

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It's, it's incredible.

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Y'all like, I, I know we all use the word magical,

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but I feel like that can be misconstrued.

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It is remarkable what happens in a child-centered playroom

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what

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kids will do the things they will face

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the challenges, they will overcome the way that they will heal and grow and adapt.

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just sometimes there are no words for it and, and I, I just felt that way this morning.

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You know, tears came, no words came.

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It, it's special, it's so special. And for those of you that found it later,

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you found the best thing you really did. And so we are glad you're here.

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Thank you for the emails. Thank you for engaging with me the way that you all do.

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You know how much I love you.

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I'm so grateful for every single moment that I spend with you all, whether it's

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over the airwaves or whether it's on the

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Collective calls or on the coaching program,

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whatever.

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I, I just love engaging with people that truly care about kids and it's,

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it's the most important work.

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I don't think there's anything more important than thinking about

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future generations and the impact that that will have so

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super grateful for all of you. Love you. We'll talk again soon. Bye.

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Thank you for listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr

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Brenna Hicks. For more episodes and resources.

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Please go to www.playtherapypodcast.com.