Runaway Bride with Sophia Benoit

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Speaker 1: On the dol Cast. The questions asked if movies have women inum, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, or do they have individualism the patriarchy ze invest start changing it with the beck dol Cast interior podcast Studio afternoon. Caitlin and Jamie wait quietly as they get the go ahead from Aristotle to start, Hey, welcome to the Bechtel Cast. Hi. I thought you're gonna keep going that. I was gonna start breathing heavy. Then you stopped. It's gonna started breathing heavy. Yeah, I kind of bailed on it, but don't build on the bit. Well like me saying hey, welcome to the Bechtel Cast was like Caitlin's dialogue. So then I was just reading dialogue and then you came in with your dialogue. Well, mine was an action line. More, it was like Jamie begins to breathe heavily. True. Anyway, I'm Caitlin, I'm Jamie. This is the Pectel Cast. Yeah it is. It's a podcast about the portrayal of women in movies. We're here today and we're talking about another movie. Man, We've got to like kick out the energy. We gotta turn it out to eleven right now, maybe I should have gotten my mix hard. I'm gonna I'm gonna crank it up, frank it Up. I have a song in my Spotify called crank it Up. It's a theme to my favorite wrestler. Who's your favorite wrestler? Who? Big show? Big show, big show. He's big and he's at the show. He's very big. He's a he's maybe seven feet tall. He's a giant. Can we change the subject? He's a big show. Should we introduce our guest? Yes? Cool, she's the best. She's a comedian. She's a writer for a g Q. It's Sofia Ben Hi. How are you good? How are you guys? We're good. You have brought us a movie that we're gonna be talking about. I almost called it The Princess Bride. That's not it at all. What is it? Runaway Bride? Runaway Bride? Tell us about why you picked this, what it means to you, your history with this movie. So I started talking to Jamie about movies that I loved, and all of my movies are like very romantic comedies from the nineties. That's the theme of that list, occasionally seeping into like early two thousand's rom coms, Loder aimed at teens. Uh So, after looking at that list, I talked with Jamie and I thought this movie is probably one of the earliest movies I ever saw that was made for adults. I'm going to apologie as an advance then and say that I'm sorry for how much I hate this movie. Fine, I'm not mad. Yes, just wait. I love a good shouting match, though, um, I don't think it will get to that, but who knows. It's the Bechtel Cast. Anything can happen. Do you think we'll ever get into a fight, not like a yelling, like a fistfight. I just imagine I want to get a fight. You're going to flip a table a favorite wrestler, so I would not fight you. It's true. I want to enlist. Yeah. Big Show is about to retire. Oh god, we're talking about this again. Oh my god. Okay, fine, let's talk about Oh can I actually I wanted to clear see if we're clear to discuss a topic that I would love to talk about. But I don't know if everyone's down Richard Gear's butt dribble. I'm so damn I'm here. Okay, do you are you aware of the lore associated with Richard Gear and the dribble within his ass? It sounds vaguely familiar, but I don't really remember it's it's I have the Snopes tab open right now. In regards to Richard Gear and the gerbil, it's it reads. A hoary urban legend reports a celebrity was taken to a hospital emergency room to have a gerbil removed from his rectum, and said celebrity was Richard Gear. Um Snope says it's false, but I want to keep that hope alive. It wasn't just that. Apparently there's like a sexual thing where you put a gerb that episode of South Park of Okay, that's from the rumor of him shoving a gerbil in a tube of his ass, which is like they have to be able to mechanically do that. By now, like you can you can get it to that has something moving inside of it, by you would say, like you mean, it doesn't have to be a live animal animatronic. As a mother of a hamster, I can endorse putting a gerbil in your ass. Hey, let's talk about the movie. Okay. You grew up with it, you like it a lot. Yes, I'm not. I'm not like I think there's a huge difference between your favorite movie and the best movie. Like I definitely don't think this is a good movie, and I would not. This is like on the edge of what i'd make my boyfriend watch, Like if we had just fought, or like he had done something kind of shitty, I would definitely make him watch it, like his punishment. Yeah, Like, it's not like, it's not like Cinderella Story where that's like if he slept with somebody in front of my face and I was like, we're watching Cinderella Story tonight. It's my turn to pick a movie. But it's definitely like he said something shitty about like my sister or something like that, and I'm like, oh no, no, We're watching a Julia Roberts movie. That's how I feel about this film. That's good. That's good training it is he knows how to behave don't pee on the rug, or I'll make you watch a Julia Roberts movie. There's a joke in the movie about being on the rug. That's there is there is there's a joke in the movie his ex wife has a new husband and he's laughing on the rug and she's like, if you pee on my right. That's the guy who's a limo driver and the Princess Diaries. Hector Losy. He's in all Gary Marshall's movies, weird like Friends. He's also like um in Pretty Woman, which also are stars Julia Roberts and Richard Gear if you're willing, all stars, which I am our stars are also in that film together. Interesting, I well, because is this doesn't even know? Is this the first time they reunite since Pretty Woman? Or I think it's a sequel. It's a Pretty Woman. Really? Yeah, I okay, I haven't seen Pretty Woman in a long time. But so much of this movie I had fun watching it. It was very confusing, particularly towards the end, like the sequence of events is just baffling. As a kid, there were things that weren't sucked up about it that are now and like that's really really packed up. Yeah, Caitlyn, do you want to summarize it? Sure, we'll let me start by So, Jamie, you hadn't seen this movie before, right? I had not neither, did I? So I thought watched it recently. So the story is ludicrous, It's fine, all right. Richard gear is a calumnist at the USA Today and what a funny job. He's like always trying to find his next story. He's like, what do I write about? And he means this guy in the bar. The guy's like, there's this lady she runs away from weddings. Write a story about her. He's a great idea, I'll do it. And in this world everyone reads the columns in USA Today and yeah, and uh, the columnists are famous. You can recognize him on the street right there. What's your next story for USA Today? So he writes this story about this woman who he doesn't know, uh, and he ends up getting some facts wrong. So the woman reads it a k. Julie Roberts, and she's like, uh, got a fact check, sir. So she writes a letter to the editor gets them fired because he was yeah, by his ex wife because he said she ran away from uh seven or eight weddings, but it was only three. So you know, this very high stakes story that he messed up a little bit. Getting fired. That's a big mistake. What yours do you remember? Yeah? Okay, so we were just coming up with Clinton presidency and I feel like the world this was the news. You know, like things were good back then. You have to remember that, like what the standard of what's a news story is different? That makes And also I do believe that that is a story that would appears. Yeah, I don't know. I believe that this story would be of interest. I don't believe that Richard gear could make a living as a USA Today a weekly columnist. That got me a little stuck. But maybe maybe I don't know what the going rate was in who knows, Right, it's not so much that, um sure, it's like it's a human interest story that might be seemed to some people. The fact that he gets fired over like getting a few facts wrong in again, what's a very low stake story. Like if he was like like a story about North Korea, right, if he wrote Kim Jong Il ran away from seven or eight weddings, when Kim Jong Il and actually only run away from three weddings, that would be a fireball offense, right anyway, So he decides to go to this small town in Maryland where this woman lives to get the story straight once and for all. How he goes and he meets her and she's like, you're a bad man, and he's like, I'm just I'm here to Basically, he wants to see her run away from another wedding because she's about to get married again to Bob Christopher Maloney, Poor Bob. Bob doesn't get the bud gets kicked around in this movie. He's a good gunser cover pretty well from it. Which is also an insane plot point that he's still two days after he's dumped. He's like, you're the wedding that should have been his wed which is the brightest part of this movie. But why would you go? First of all that that is a testament to Bob's resilience. He bounces back immediately. He's like an emotion ferous. Yeah, he's like an emotionless coach. You know, he doesn't have time to put his feelings on the field, even when it comes to Julia Robbert. That's true. That's true. Really have to think about the fact that he's willing to give it his all. There's this weird line of dialet when he's at the wedding. Uh, well, I'm sorry, I like just took us to the end of the It's I mean, what happens in the middle almost nothing. They hate each other then they start to like each other very abruptly, might I add, but this specific or like, yeah, very abruptly. But just a wedding dress though, let's put that out there. If IDUs your wedding dress, that's a pretty serious step. That's true. I mean, daddy, I would love someone to just bring me a wedding dress. Amen, it brought me a wedding dress. But like, all right, well we've already, to quote Julia Robert's character, we've already got a date and venue dress. I guess we should get married the okay, So basically I do agree with you that basically nothing happens for about forty five minutes except like Joan Cusack gets upset at one point, but then she's fine. Uh So there's like a Louis not even a character, it's just Joan Cusack is in the movie. That's pretty much. Yeah, like just upset and she's joaning out hard. In this movie, she's like Peggy Fleming, not the ice skater. Yeah, what a weird joke to make such a bad joke. It's a terrible for like a romantic comedy. There's almost no trace of comedy in this movie. I found nothing funny about it. It's funny because her dad is an alcoholic. That's funny. One funny line of the movie is when her dad is drunk and calls the dog Porthole. I think classroom joke, and I have considered getting a dog and naming it Porthole. And no one will know what I'm talking about. But to me, I'll be like from run Away Brad. But then someone, someday someone will know, and then you're going to be married by me a wedding dress, right, and probably Richard Gear. Richard Gear. I love Richard Gear so much. He's one of my faiths. I don't care what he's done with Gerbils, but he's so annoying in this movie. He's well, his character is like why well okay. Questions about Richard Gear in this movie include why did people not just ask him to leave? And why and in particular, why is he allowed to stay with Julia Roberts family. No, he stays at a break in. She breaks into the hotel. Also, her family loves everybody. Her family loves him, they trust him, they love except for the dog Porthole, who barks at his colorful hair. Crazy. That was a fun Frank. What a fun Frank in this funny movie. It's like in Big Fat Liar when they make Paul Giamatti blue. You're seeing that it is that. It is like that. That's a good movie. The one joke that I do like from this movie is the pun that is the hair salon name, which is curl Up and Die, but die spelled d y e like hair die. I like that. And Peggy Fleming's husband Corey has a radio show called Wake Up with flem. Yeah, that's another good that was exciting thrill. There's some small town charm in this movie. I just I felt I felt so bad for Bob. Okay, so there at is it the wedding rehearsal. Richard Gear is allowed to be there because Julie Roberts is like, give me money for a nice dress and I'll let you tag along for the third act of this movie. And then they're at Julia and Bob's rehearsal and they're like, rig your gear, you be the priest. They make him be the groom, and then Bob is going to be the priest so that he can watch her walk down the aisle and not break eye contact with her because they set up that like that's the only way she'll marry you is if you don't break eye contact. That and what a terrifying president of the It's so it's like it is kind of funny how even Julia Roberts accepts, like, yeah, if you don't make eye contact with me, I might I might just leave. And there are times where she and Richard gear A like, Okay, this is a bit much. Your guys are making fun of me too much, but like she still is like, yeah, I run away from a lot of weddings. What's interesting too, is that this was right around the time that she had left Keefer Sutherland at the Altar two days before their wedding in real life. No way, Yeah, she did that during the filming of the movie Hook, and she like ran away from the filming and like went to London and Steven Spielberg had to go get her because she was running away from a wedding from Keefer Sutherland. Whoa god, I had no idea. That really brings a whole fun element too, I had no idea. Wow, poor Kiefer know he's had quotes about it later that was like I understand why I'm like I know you cry every night, Roberts. God, oh man, but what a what a strong showing of of of manly strength. But but okay, So, how Richard Gear and Julia Roberts finally get together romantically is that Richard Gear is standing in for Bob because Bob is practicing making eye contact like a good husband. And Richard Gear and Julia Roberts kiss for like forty five seconds. It's so long, it's so uncomfortable, and you don't see it coming, and everyone in the at the rehearsals like what is going on? Like Bob starts to flip out rightfully, so he's practicing eye content and he's like doing the right thing. Then you know, Bob is like we're breaking up, you know, goodbye, And then Julie Roberts and Mr just shrug it off, you know, don't go after Bob, and we start planning. I was like, this is the meanest, most fucked up, toxic thing I've ever seen in my life. I want to see what happens next. Well, the reason that no one saw it coming that they're suddenly kissing is it it's a poorly written story beat, Like there's no build up, there's no like it's just to me. It was just like all right, no, they're kissing now at this rehearsal. It's very sudden. And then they're like, all right, yeah, Bob's gone. Now I have a dress, I have the church, I have the date blocked off on my calendar. Why don't you and I get married? Guy who I hated until two moments ago. Have you, guys, not ever seen any other romance and comedies? I mean this one. No. I mean I love a good roman to, I love all of them, particularly the j LO one, but but this one, this one, the change was so abrupt that even in as a as a rom com lover, I was like, wait a second, this is yeah. And also, Julia Roberts way to make it clear immediately that you were not invested in marrying Bomb even a little, because the second he was like I don't know, She's like, you're right, I'm gonna marry this guy. I do think it's kind of reasonable because there's the two hottest people in that town, so you knew they were going to That's true if you're the two hottest people. Even if someone's about to get married to someone else, you're like, well, yeah, someone hotter comes along, you're like, well, we don't know. We never got to see Bob in the suit. That's true. If maybe he could not like a Kendall, like even down to his hole anatomy, like probably he's just this non sexual but very fit man. He's got a sex lump. He doesn't have a venus. I think that's true. He's got a sex lump that it's really hot. But then it's yeah, that's how I imagine Bob and his sexuality. But then if you give him a little kiss, it cools downs. A little kiss um, Caitlin's triggered. Triggered. Uh no, I just this movie is so profoundly stupid to me. I thought it was fun and also just like another there's just like a lot of really like bigger than usual round calm hard lefts where at first it's like it is funny because her dad's an alcoholic, but then very suddenly it's like it's set because her dad's an alcoholic, and then by the end it's like it's kind of funny an alcoholic to be fair as somebody who has a dad who's an alcoholic. I feel like that's really the emotional journey it's like, okay, alright, well it's kind of funny. Well that was a good joke. Thank you for providing a punchline for my childhood and read can we talk about this movie is two hours long? Is it? Yeah? Roncom should not be longer than like an hour forty tops. This movie is cloud in just under two hours, and it's there is a long period where nothing really happens, but it's all it's it's that's when they do all the round calm goofs and Pratt falls and laughs. You really have to get all the information about that small town in there, and like Hail Maryland. If you can't get all of the shots of har Hail Maryland. And there's us a line called curl up and Die, and he's like playing with the barbershop quartet, and it needs like the baker woman Betty Betty Trap. I kind of shipped her and Bob but then and she's married. But well there's that other there's that girl, that horny woman who chases after Bob and it's like Bob, oh may this is a bad time, but here's my phone, and they're just like see look, people are already excited for you. I'm like, dude, just got broken up with, like left at the alder by. You if that don't shout encouraging things that poor bob, Bob's needs so much. Therapy means so much. Julie, do you think he and Julia Roberts have ever had sex? No, she didn't know. He has a sex lump. Theyve he springs himself upon her on the floor of their kitchen. I think that probably like because he has a sex in wrestling, not the same thing. Oh no, no, no, we've known. We've found one of Caitlin's spots. My my sex name is big Show, Big Show. He's got beard right now. The woman who I think it's the same character who runs after him right after he's gotten broken up with is it her cousin who introduces herself in the movie as I'm Maggie's unmarried cousin. That's how I introduced myself. I'm Caitlin Comma. She's making a joke, not a good one, but a joke about not being married because he's writing the column about getting married a bunch of times. It's not a clear or good joke, admittedly, and it sounds just stupid. But maybe maybe she just wants to put it on into the He also was hot, so maybe they're trying to set up that, like she's being like, I'm single. You know, Yeah, I felt for well, I guess I didn't really feel for Joan Ki sax role in this movie is fun because she was. I mean, I feel like she's sort of gets better roles now, but she was like the Judy Greer of her time. She's never had a she's never had a starring role in a movie, like I literally, really my boyfriend. I have gone through her im v P page looking for She's like, he's always like a sport you never had to start. Like. She's huge. Everyone knows who she is and she's never had a movie where she's School of Rock. She's in everything. She's my dreams. I want her to be true Detective season three. It's just her. Yeah, just dude, that would be great. She oh man, she's due for what does the Yes, yes, it's going to be a Joan. I kept wanting to say Black Snake Moone, but that's not the movie that that Matthew mcconnughey was good. And when what's the one where he's Alice Buyer's Club, Yeah, Dallas Fire's Club for Black Snake Moon three words maybe three word titles there. But but Jon's role. Joan is clearly caught in one of those weird hometown friendships that has run its course. But there's not anyone else to be friends with, and so she's letting Julia Roberts just wave her nips at Corey and and it ends up being like but and it becomes an issue too, and I'm like, oh, is this a b plot? Where? Where where is this going? Nowhere? Joan qus just like it's interest just what you're like. It's just what you're like. It's fine. I was like, man, John, stand up for yourself. I do wish I'd gone further, admittedly, but I think it's an interesting question of like a lot of people have friends that are really flirtatious and it's like very uncomfortable where you're like, I don't really know what to do, right, And Joan is so nice and she loves Julia Roberts so much, but there that's like the attitude of everyone towards Julia Roberts in that hometown of like this is just how she has what she does. No one offers any advice or help from a storytelling point of view, the fact that like opportunities for tension just aren't capitalized on very much. Like she's like, do I flirt with your husband? And she's like yeah, but it's okay. Like there could be just like more conflict intention from the opportunities like this, but they don't milk it, and it just that makes it for just not a very interesting story to me. I mean, it's good that Joan and Corey are secure enough in their marriage that they don't need to make a thing of it, sure, but also i'd be like Corey made cool a little bit cool on Julia. I mean I think the point of that is like that everyone in the town is in love with her because she's like the only hot person, right right, I mean like that's like the guy the desk guard let her lets her into the hotel room of Richard Gears Like she flashes us. She's like, you're commit a felony. Bacon bacon enter, that's fine. Can we talk about the eggs? I was hoping that this came out, Thank god, motif. Wait what her Viking? The eggs like every time with the guy she likes the kind of eggs that they like. She doesn't know how to be your own person. It's a metaphor, what's there? It's beautiful. I think about that all the time. Every time I'm eating eggs, I think about Julie Robertson, Like do I even like these eggs? Or just a guy? I want to like these written It's crazy that Richard gear says a word for word three separate times. Oh yeah, how's she like her eggs? Shouted at men as they're leaving a room. Oh yeah, you think here are how she like her eggs? I think I'm going to get that tattooed on my eggs like her eggs. Ram turns out she likes eggs Benedict. Yeah yeah, but she tries all kinds of eggs on her own when she's finally single. She finally learned being single when you figured any kinds of eggs I want, When you figure out what kind of eggs you like, that's when you know you fixed yourself. Yeah, i'd be like you want, I like over easy. I do think they're the moral of the story. What they were going for is a good moral of like you have to learn how to be alone and who you are and not with other people. That's like a good moral. That's not the moral of most romcoms, how to cook your own eggs, because most romcoms are the opposite, where they're like this independent woman who doesn't want a man. Instead, they leaned into being like, okay, there are people that like give themselves up for sure whoever they're with. But I feel like that would have hit a little more if she had not married, or if this have been a good movie. Right, But I mean, that's not why we're here. It's just a saying like it's a good lesson poorly executed because her character is like who I can't even describe her. They're like, she's quirky, but is she not really She's still kind of just well, according to John Cusack, she's quirky, and that's different from weird, right, which is also different from what was souther adjective thrown around the net scene. I remember, you know, because Julia Robberts says like I'm weird, which, first of all, grow up, She's like, I'm weird, and then John kiss like, you're not weird, You're quirky. It's different, very darings. Yeah, but with with Joan. Joan uses another word to describe herself. It feels like she's selling herself short. Yet again, I agree that I wish Joan would have been the star of this movie. If that's what you're leading to. My god, I would love if Joan were the star of this movie. But to loop back into the thing of like her not ending up with Richard Gear, her point when she was like, here's why I couldn't marry you is because with the first three guys, they didn't know who I was. And then with this marriage, when I tried to marry you the first time, you knew who I was, and that scared me because I didn't know who I was. I have to go find myself. And then she finds something she's like, I'm ready, So it's not like entirely she sells her lamps and she knows who she is now. By the way, I love how they say in the early early in the movie that her degrees in industrial design, which I think whoever wrote this movie thinks that that means that you take industrial looking things and design them into stuff, which is not what industrial design is. But that's funny way to go, is it. Gary Marshall who wrote this, he directed it. Jose Anne mckimmon and Sarah two women. Never again? Should that happen? Can we? Okay? One thing that I really do want to talk about is Julia and Richards. I don't remember the character's names. Maggie and Ike's first wedding where she does run away. That is a very funds I did not think she was going to run away. Here's the thing. I thought that that was going to be the end of the movie. Turns out there are twenty more minutes. Anyways, she does run away, and then there's an amazing extended product placement for FedEx. It say, absolutely amazing. Down to Yeah, down to they say what the slogan for FedEx was at the time. Yeah, because he's like tomorrow morning. Right. But she Julia Roberts runs away from Richard Gear after Richard Gear shouts when she starts to leave, lock the doors, which trapper stop her, keep her here against her will. That's what marriages. This ceremony can recover from what's happening right now. The ceremony can recover from the bride not wanting to get married, right like, yeah, just about face, she went the wrong way. She's going to marry me. We know each other for two whole weeks. What I do think it's crazy is at the very very end when they get married again, like for real, this time, she did it, she goes through with it, she buys another fucking dress. Oh yeah, yeah, that's true. And they're not on that kind of budget. She works at a hardware story here, he's a USA Today columns not anymore. He got fired. Here's tell that story to g Q. I guess is if g Q would want what do you think? What do you think would want that as a cover story. I think I think they would. Why not? Why not? I had it? That's like if Daniel from the Vans, you know, Damn Daniel, if he ran away from a wedding. I think we don't want to know Dan Daniels runaway wedding. They didn't have internet celebrities back then. They just had like, you know, newspaper celebrities, right. I feel like the last celebrity of the runaway brad Kind was that astronaut who are a diaper? Agreed? And I love her, actually, I love her. Talked about her with somebody the other day. She's really important. We should we should have her on the show. It's not my show, but we should have we should, we should we should bring her into the fault a little more because she I mean, if we're going to talk, we usually say women in STEM at least once every podcast because we're allies and we love women in STEM. You can get specific women in STEM rule, but also asked for not women diapers, run away bride. Really, she's she ran towards lost she was, and there were no time for bathroom breaks and her journey. I respect that. I respect the funk out of that. I don't know if I'm not familiar with this story. O, man, we'll have to talk. It's going to be a long time. I'll look it up on my own. The overview is like there were two astaurants at NASA, a woman and a man, and then he started dating somebody else and she got really mad about it. So she drove like something unreasonable, like eleven hours something, wearing a diaper to go confront him and like attack the woman. And so she was charged with like, oh, planning to murder something. I think I assumed that she was wearing a diaper in space, like space diaper. Oh no, no, no, no, no, diapering up a real, a real she was in a car and she's like, I gotta get their ACEP. No time to pull over for arrest, stop piss and ship myself for True, she might have like not eaten, you know, just like made sure she was fine. Yeah, it was premeditated. So wait, you know, she might have been a really big planner. It seems like it. I mean, you've got to be meticulous if you're an astronaut. True, maybe she had the diapers already. She's never know when you're space diapers and face. Yeah. Maybe yeah, maybe that's her road trip thing. And it's not a bad idea for a road trip, and the failing press did not point that out waymestream media, extream media. Why isn't there a movie about her? That's the Really, that's a million dollar question. That's crazy. All right, it'll look at the life rights and then i'll make sure it passes the bike. They'll test. Yeah, oh my god, every line of dialogue will be passing the test. I do like that she proposes once she runs away from the wedding the first time. I kind of like that scene. Yeah, Um, I don't necessarily like the scene, but I'm so sorry that I hate this movie so much. I don't like the scene, but I like the woman being the one to propose. I thought they do that with Julia Roberts a lot, it seems like, because I'm also in notting Hill. She is like very much the male the character. She's very unlikable in that movie, which I love, like she's not fun and like kind and she's successful and he's kind of a bumbling idiot. So they kind of did it a little bit with this movie too, I feel like where they're like, you be a man, right and and at the time I was like, oh, what a novel and interesting thing to make our to make our friend Julia do I liked. I did like that the first time Richard Gear delivered that very clunky on aalog about like the marriage of like when marriage and you and someday love her, both of us who want to get out of it and yeah, maybe leave, but then stay. And then she has to verbade him deliver that same clunky monologue back to him, where she's like, it's like said, maybe leave and he's like, I will marry you. Like I just I like to see I like that we saw on screen a woman proposing to a man. I have a real problem with the traditional like you're you're together, you want to get married. Maybe you've talked about it, who knows, but generally, if you're in a HEATERO relationship and you're the woman, you kind of just have to wait around to be asked to and it just like takes out your agency, you know. So I like this. She's like, you know what, I want this saying I'm want to go out and ask for it and try to get it. So I like that part of it. I did also like that they didn't make it a big deal, like it wasn't likely to People kept being like, and she proposed, Yeah, like that movie weep Here with Amy Adams, Yeah she proposes, but it's like a whole thing that she's allowed to propose because she's a woman on weepy or day or something. I'm like, you can do it any day. They're like, it's opposite day. So it's um just in terms of woman character, probably the woman in this movie who has it together more than anyone is Richard Gear's ex wife. Yes, I think that that was like an ex wife character. They can very often be made to be shrewish, especially because she fired him and that could have been made to seem like a vendetta thing, but it wasn't. She was just doing her job. And they have this very I mean, very weird scene where Richard Gard pretty much kisses around the mouth in front of her new husband. I didn't love that. But for the most part, she seems to have it together, and she's like, I accept that our marriage. You know, she's not pining after him. She's his boss. She fires him, but not her feelings, and then she attends his Honestly, Okay, if I were her, I would attend the Julia Roberts Richard gear wedding because it seems like such a bad idea that like there's a little petty redding in there. Because friends though too, Like I just remember the guy's named Fisher. Fisher's her new husband. Yeah, I love him. He's great. Hector slay me, ride my limo any day. Yeah that's a euphemism. Actor. Yeah, I referred to him a vagina as a stretch um, but he, like I liked their friendship. It seems like he's like a clueless idiot x in a lot of ways that had no idea why they broke up and like all that, and she was like, look, I've moved on with my life, but by the way, here's what you sucked up. And I loved that because that's like how I don't want to be as an excess, Like we can be friends, we're fine, but here's like you're a mess and I'm great. And the ex wife whose name I really don't remember, but and her new husband, Fisher, they have a great relationship. Fisher is not jealous that Richard gear Is, you know, works with her or is around. I was like, man, this couple is very stable. I wouldn't want to see a movie about them because they're so stable. They're in therapy. They literally talk about how it takes three people to make their marriage work, Me, Fisher, and our therapists, and that looks like it's working. Her name is Ellie, by the way, Ellie so, and I so, I'm I'm pro Ellie, I am pro Jones, I'm pro jo, I'm pro everyone in the movie except for your Deer. Sometimes there's a lot of really good women in the movie. I think the Grandma's adorable classic horny Grandma loved that. I wrote down some of my favorite lines from the movie, including it's funny when a grandma says, penis that's the that's the cord. I bet someone said that in a meeting and they're like, you know what, that's true. History has proven it's funny when a grandma's penis right. I like, well, they give her like the button in a bunch of different scenes, as though what she has said is a funny laugh line to go out on and it's usually not. But I mean she's wearing it on her it's fun joke. One of my favorite lines in the movie is she says innocent girls are terrified with the one eyed snake. When I was a virgin bride, I took a knitting needle to bed with me. What what is a weapon to shove up? I love it. That's a fun joke. That's one of the better jokes of this movie. I love that she calls it a one nighted snake and she was a virgin and scared and she was going to get militant. She was like, let's get right to stabbing your dick. There is nothing funnier than a scared virgin. For interpreted as when she first said it, is she gonna like try to like butter herself up with a knitting men. Know, like that's what I thought she was saying. I liked I liked torny Grandma. I mean it would be Betty White today if it were cast today, that's Betty White. Yeah. The past ten years horny Grandma characters and that that grandma and made she rest in Peace probably most likely rest in Peace. Probably made a ton of money on that and it was went, you know, travel the world and was all horny Grandma there. She's probably sent her like two grandsons to college with the money she made from run away. That would be so nice. And then they're like, you know, that would be cool if you hooked up with a guy in college and he's like, you know what, I can afford to go? Here go. My grandma said, Penis, that's amazing. I wonder when her grandson's went to college, and I wonder if I affected them. I can't wait to find out. If that were the reason I could afford college, I would tell everyone. That would be like my pre hook up story is why I'm here. I want to talk about wedding culture. First of all, the hashtag wedding this movie while it's like, yeah, you've got to find out who you are first before you can pair off with someone else. That's good, but it's still like marriages the end goal. You're not successful until you've married. It's kind of also the message it's sending. I feel like this movie like, I don't know, nine, that's that's a tricky I feel like that's like around the time where that mentality was like maybe dying but not dead yet. Well, Sex and the City hadn't happened, so people didn't know it was an option to be Samantha, you know what I mean right right, Like it wasn't cool to be a fun slot yet, which was like, thank god, we can all be fund slots. Know. I love being a fun slut because like back then the movies were like Parent Trapped and it was like let's wear beige and like be a mom, you know, like that was the roles for women were like a mom. Yeah, And and this movie doesn't deal with it in a great way for sure, But I don't know. It's weird that I feel within a few years of this movie coming out, that mentality slowly started to dissipline. And I'm sure it did have something to do with sex in the city, because like right around this time is also just a little bit before it was like You've Got Mail, and if you watch that movie, that gets a much better written romantic comedy. But the the aim of the main character is not like sex or fun. It's like dating a nice guy. And that was like all romantic comedies and nineties were like I want to date a nice guy right and now, and then right after it was like fun sluts, you know, which is great. I'm just saying that's like very part for the course for ninety eight. I feel like even so, weddings still happen, and I just want to talk about how they're a huge money making scam. Yeah you heard it here. First, guys, wedding, If you have a wedding, you're throwing away your money because like, first of all, why are there so many different events for what should just be one of it. Because you've got like your bridal shower, you got your bachelor or your bachelor party, You've got your rehearsal and your rehearsal dinner, and then you've got the wedding itself, and then you've got the reception, and then you're supposed to go on a honeymoon, and sure you're like celebrating this great thing that's happening in your life, but it's just it comes with so like you gotta document it with a videographer and a photographer and it's gonna be flowers, and you gotta buy addressed thousands of dollars, and you have to book out a venue that's thousands of dollars, and you gotta stationary in the get hard to believe that all of that would make me happier than a two target gift guard. Absolutely, like absolutely, there's no way that I that somebody would offer me either that or like even a fifty other target gift CD to be like that sounds really thrilling. That would be the better choice. I don't know. I I really do enjoy weddings. I don't know. I like going. I love that when other people have them. But then I think about, like, oh, you don't have dollars for a party, Like who, what life do you live? You'd have to live a very different life in my world to pay for the Also, the idea of a wedding ring alone, just like paying for a rock, that's so much money. I'm like, do you know you can buy a car, get a factional thing. Let's get back tasts back tattoo for less. Yeah, it's exactly. Let's get screams that match. I could get like, we'll get your matching worm tattoos someday. No, you could literally just get like the whole script of Shrek tattooed on the back of your body. Yeah, that would be a fun couple activity. I love Shrek. There, I love Shrek. Why didn't we do Shrek? I would have loved to do that. It's crazy that we haven't done a Shrek episode yet. I think both of you guys so much, and just keep watching Shrek over and over. Um. The I like weddings. I don't like getting too involved in weddings because when it comes to the point where I was a maid of honor last year and I had to fly across the country like three separate times to do like I think bacherette and then wedding, and then I missed something or other and everyone was mad. Yeah, I didn't love you're putting Not only are you putting a financial burden on yourself, you're often inflicting it on a bunch of other people. Oh yeah, I mean and and usually the people closest to you that you love. Yeah, You're like, let me funk these people. Are you gonna buy this this dress? And I have to get you a juicer. I would absolutely make my worst enemy my made of honor, Like, there's no bigger funk you than you need to take care of this party that I'm planning. I am excited, Okay, I do want to have oh like I'm wedding someday and I have all these fun pranks planned we can do. I want to put like a wild card in my bridal party, like someone that like I'm not particularly close to, but like just really just guilts are into being in my bridle party and being very close with everyone else and everyone being like, who's this person? Um? And I also have this plan for my whole life, uh where, And it starts at my wedding because I forgot to do it at my college graduation. Uh where. In every major event in my life, I want there to be someone dressed in a in a Scooby costume, like a mascot costume, but being like the background of the picture, you know. And then at the birth of my child will be in the background of the picture. Uh, we'll have well, I'll have to have a guy. I can have a guy for higher I gotta I wanted to have a ring bear and have the person dress up in a full bear a man like a little child costume. No, it can't be cute, and it has to be alarming. Want my wedding to be very alarming. I want everyone to feel like they had a bad dream. I'm going to ask people that aren't my parents to walk me down the aisle, but like, not even close to me. They're just like, don't even get me started on all the implications of that. Like I want to get stunt doubles for my parents to do flips like the whole like father giving away his daughter, It's like, well, are my daughter's property property? No, I bestow this property onto this other man who And oh, yeah, you got to change your name now because my dad and the man I married to do like a Brittany Madonna style kiss and pass my spirit my dad like now you're the princess of pop. I really want my dad to end up like Richard gear in this film and to end up kissing the groom and and then not me and that's how we find out my dad's I want to get cooked in my own wedding and lunch my dad and my beloved make it and maybe go further in my wedding at least, and I'm fine if they go further. A little tweaking, Yeah, a little yeah, do what you feel is I would enjoy a wedding if that happened, but I don't, like I want to be cillar. I understand like wanting to throw a celebration for this important day in your life. But even if you don't do it, guess what, you still can be married if you fill out all the paperwork anyway, or if you just hang out for seven years. Yeah that you just live together for a while and then you'll be married. But um, I understand like wanting to like throw a party, but doesn't need to be as extravagant as what we're doing and what we have been doing for decades. No, I don't think so. No, it is financially irresponsible for most people. I don't like it. Yeah. I just have a joke about, like, would you have the same wedding if you had to invite a kid that was like starving to your wedding and like probably you'd be like, oh, thirty thousand dollars is not a good thing to spend on a party with the world like exactly, like the world is so bad, could save eighteen families, right, yeah. I you love listening to people talking about the specifics of their wedding though, because it's always so serious. But if you're even one step removed from it, you're like, this is the dumbest remember in my life, Like my my my cousin got married, and that she would I would hear her on the friends. You'd call me crying because like she wasn't rustic enough. She'd be like, I, really, my mom didn't want to pay for the tables that because I want the tables to be barrels, because barrels are rustic, and I don't understand why we can't afford enough barrels and didn't It's just like any this problem is big. This is a big problem. My own gotta get those barrels. My really only requirement is I'm going to walk down the aisle to It's only Africa by Toto. That's like absolutely, because you're gonna get so amped from that that like it doesn't even matter who I'm marrying, but I'm just gonna be like I'm in by the time you walked on the aisle to Africa, you'll marry literally any literally is it? Bob Costas? Who is it? I don't care? Put them up turn around. That's how I feel about wantings. Sorry, weddings are fun. I mean, maybe it's because I don't get invited to them. Maybe that's why I hate them. I really Here's another call from my cousin Ja. I go. I lost the cornhole game and I was painting the cornhole game because his arrested game to play. And no, my husband doesn't want to. He's not my husband yet, but he's gonna be my husband and the no one's gonna be able to play cornhole. Are they still married? Yeah? So far, so good? How long has it been? Uh? Four months? All right? At last it's gonna ridge is always do because I think this one's gonna I think they're gonna make it. Those crazy kids. We got the cornhole, we got the barrels. She's she's twy five, guys. I really hope my cousin doesn't listen to this, and I don't think she does. I can edit it out, leave it that. I want to know if she listens. I think people shouldn't get married until are like thirty five at the earliest. I think people shouldn't ge married into the I've already been married once before and and affected up, like you have to do it one time and everyone's like, we know this isn't seriously, but we're just gonna do like that one and then you get divorced and you like try again. Updated guys who I'm like, you would be a great second husband. I'm definitely gonna refer to my husband as my first husband. That people introduce husband. It's like, oh are you guys, Like, no, we are, we just got married. I want to keep him on His toes were very in love, but we're truly in love. One of my favorite lines from Jurassic Park, which I know this is not the movie we're talking about, but Dr Ian Malcolm a K. Jeff Goldbloom says, yeah, I'm always on the lookout for a future x Mrs Malcolm knowing that he's gonna follow someone get married and get divorced and he's just realistic with his expectations. Yeah, it's like that song I'm only going to break, break, break, break, break your heart. I it wrong. There's a lot of songs where rappers are like warning women that they're going to break their hearts. And I love that because it's like, you're honest, you're real, right, and then you can just present the receipts in the form of the top forty sick right. So yeah, I love rom coms. I love love I love rom coms because it's like, I'm not supposed to like vapid, dumb things and I'm leaning in hard. Yeah, I'm just like this. I love The Bachelor. I love Jane the Virgin, Like, wait, we're gonna talk about Jay the Virgin is my favorite show in the world. I've seen it all the way through twice. It's it's amazing, good everything, catastrophe and good rom com No, I do like I've only seen the first season, but I do like that show. Excellent or Amazon Original Day The Vision is the best show on television if you like. People talk about it. I don't know. It's so woman and it's very self aware. I love it. Gina Rodriga shines every week. Every week. Team Michael, Yeah, whoa whoa controversy. Um, are there any other thoughts that people have on the movie Away Bride, I will say that there are a lot of good speaking roles for women for different kinds of characters that are like not the same role or not just putting them in the same like Shuill woman best friend, like it was a little weird different. They are all white. It is a very white movie, as many movies are. There is a I think a reporter who is like at the finn the wedding that they attempt and then she runs away from with Richard gear Um. There's a woman of color who's a reporter who's asking questions. But other than that, and everyone's pretty white. The older women we see as horney grandma. Oh yeah, yeah, so we do see some represent older women. So that's honey grandma. Uh check um. It does pass the Bechdel test for sure, so that's good it doesn't. There's a scene where it passes pretty early on whenever Joan Kuzak and the other lady friend whose name I forget, the cousin unmarried cousin, No, not Betty Trout either. There's a with like a poof hair thing. She's an older woman too. Yeah, she says I'm going to focus on your eggs, Bob. While she's working at the dinero, they come in and ask Maggie if she's seen the call um that Richard Year has printed in the Say today, And she's like, yeah, what a funny joke, you guys. And she's like, you told us not to do any bachelorette jokes because is that a thing? He? I guess so so, So there's that conversation happens again in the hair salon again Carl up and die, which is what I wanted to do when I watched this movie. They are talking about a chair for a while, we're talking about a dog. They talked about kinds of stuff. It's not a man. They're fun friends. As you were saying that, I was thinking about how I don't think Shrek passes the Betel test and out freaking it doesn't. It doesn't, It doesn't. It doesn't. Well, yeah, because there's Fiona and there's Arthur other there's no other speaking part for women other than give him the chair. When the woman yells that when he's beating someone up that yeah, Shrek man, it's problematic. It's problem that it came out before Night eleven. It did it come out like two months before one? Can I tell you my favorite fact about a movie ever? And I was also about to say one of my favorite movies does not pass the Bectel test. Master of Disguise. Fun fact about the Master of Disguise. You know that scene, that famous scene from the Master of the Skies, the turtle turtle scene. I have not seen that movie. Everyone's seen this scene. Have you seen the turtle? Are you kidding me? Aristotle? Aristotle seen it? Shout out to Aristotle's Danta Carveys only movie that he's the star of. It's the last movie he's the star of. It's not a great movie. But um I wrote a bunch of essays about it a couple of years ago. And I listened to the commentary track and this iconic, very bad scene and this very bad movie was filmed on September eleven. Wow, they kept going after that. They said that in the commentary track, they were just like because it was Dana Kurfey and the director and they were just like, oh, Like when the turtle scenes started, they're like, oh, I was like, why this is a great scene and they're like, oh yeah. This was on September eleven, two thousand one, and uh we had to stop filming for a couple of minutes and uh just have a moment of silence, but you know we had to finish. The scene. Was like, man, Shell must go on. The show truly did go on. Oh, I just wanted to say a few of my other favorite lines of dialogue the movie. One of them is when Richard Gear shows up to the baseball game that people playing in. Maggie goes there. He is again snoop doggie dog. Yeah, that is a good that's a good quote. I don't know what it means. I'm still thinking about it. He's like snooping around her. But that's like not a response to snooping. That's that's stuck with me. To another The Titanic makes a Snoop Dogg reference to they name one of their deep sea cameras after Oh, I was like, what how does Jack and Rose know about Snoop dog came from the past. There's a passenger from the future. What an actually watch The Titanic if Snoop Dogg had been on it, I will not watch that film. Like Snoop Dogg has been a prevalent cultural force for decades. That's all I'm saying. My other favorite line is when Maggie goes, you wouldn't know real love if it jumped up and bit you in the armpit. Armpit learned. They were like instead of asks, what are we gonna do? What are we gonna do? What are we gonna do? You can't say dick? How about armpit? We cans I dick? How about one eyed snake? There's I liked that. That would seems like one of those things of like, let's just change the dialogue so TBS doesn't need to change it later. God love TBS. I love TBS movie edits They're so good it should be everybody to look And I came here at a party. Are we ready to to rate? Let's do it all right? Um? So we rate on a five nipple scale of how you feel the movie treats it's women characters, and uh we we usually describe the nipples. Do you want to go first? Sure? I would give it. I'm gonna say I could give it two and a half nipples. Again, I'm gonna give it. Uh both of John cusacks nipples and a half. I had horny Grandma nipple. Nice yeah, i'd say I want to give it like two nipples. Um. It does bother me that, like such a huge emphasis is placed on marriage and pair bonding, and that's like what you're supposed to be doing if you're a young woman and you gotta find men boom with Um, something's happened that I don't mind. I think you're okay. Um. Largely, I just think this is such a sloppily poorly written movie that I can't I don't like any of the characters. So with that said, two nipples they belong to the drunk dad, oh sad leaky alcoholics. Nipples to alcoholics. Heavens that leak like the leak booze out of them, and they can suckle on them if they run if they're Ye. I don't mean to be making light of alcoholism. I know it's a serious problem in disease. How about you. I'm gonna go with I would go with three. The only thing that I really have an issue with is that, like you said, everyone is white, so that that might being that might be a two and a half, but I was gonna go three nipples. There's a lot of speaking roles for women. There's a lot of friendship for women. There's um more than most movies. They let women actually talk, even if they are annoying women. Um, which women are annoying? That's real, Um, not all. I'm just saying there's some women who annoying. I women are annoying. Women are sluts all across the ballard. Look, I think I'm an annoying sled if someone called me that accurate, like, yes, you know me, you get me when Yeah? No, but I think there was some accurate portrayals of parts of womanhood in that movie. Um, so I'm going to give it three and all three nipples are coming from Porthold the dog. Oh hell yeah, oh yeah, he's got a plenty of Yeah, he's got up to six. Yeah. Oh well, row Away Bride. Uh Kaylin hated it, Sophia, and I liked it. Uh ultimately a weird movie that people probably don't watch that much. Yeah, but you could. You should if you wanna, you know, waste to two hours. Okay, relax anyway, Sophia, thanks for being here more. Can people find you online? You have maything you want to plug? They can find me online on Twitter at the number one and then follower No Dad, one following nor Dad and then I run a monthly show, a comedy show at the Resident which Jamie was on recently, and our next show is April three. Super cool. Thank you for coming, all right, thank you. You can follow us on Twitter at Bactel Cast and rate and review us. We'd love that reviews and uh give me your worst, all right, bye yone bye