Revisiting WWE Raw 2003 Kane Unmasks, Mick Foley Appreciation Night, HBK & Nash VS Evolution, Goldberg Answers 5 Minute White Boy Challenge

Boys are back and welcome to the Deadlock Podcast, episode one hundred and ninety
eight, again with another episode of that WWE Retcher review. Yes we love
the w w E here right, Tony, Yes, we love the eighties
so much. It's eighties months, don't you. I'm sorry about it.
Well, somehow we haven't done this ever before, and we sat here and
we said, why have we not done this before? So this week we're
just going to do it. We are looking back at the time that Kane
unmasked. He took his mask off in front of the whole world to see.
They hyped it up for one week one week build for the mask match,
and uh man, this is not how I remember it at all.
I know. It's one of those things that, like the video path packages
and the promos and everything of the segmentaries, probably have a lot more in
your head than the actual moment of it happening. Right, The nostalgia of
it was way cooler. That's been a long time telling us it was awesome.
Yeah, there was a there was a Metallica Saint Anger video with like
Kane take his mask off, d kill everybody. Yes, it was like
kick ass, like yeah, but like he is a shit assd we Yeah,
he looks crazy, but we also have a full episode to get to,
also including Kane unmasking and of course, before we get into that,
some Deadlock updates for everybody. Oh, I love the updates, James,
that's my favorite moment. Tell me why watch this favorite? Well? Why
this is up on Patreon? We watched Hoovi versus Blitzkrieg from Spring Stampede nineteen
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suggested. We actually didn't pick that one, despite what I said last week.
It was it was I feel like we've covered just about everything of that
run for the most part, so it felt right to to, you know,
get to the paper. We finally we I haven't watched it in forever.
There's a lot of matches on a lot of matches too. I think
told you that. The guy like me looks back at the invasion very finally
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right, it's time to get into Monday Night Raw for June twenty third,
two thousand and three. Yes, of course, the infamous Kane episode where
he is Kane becomes Kane for the rest of his career. Yeah, he
is the true form of Kine that we've been waiting to see. But before
we get into that, let's take a little look at what was going on
in the wrestling world around the time. Not too many observer things this week
from June thirtieth, two thousand and three. After negotiations that have gone on
for two years, it was made official on June seventeenth that w E now
owns the tape library, trademarks and intellectual property of the now defunct ECW.
Let's go. Yeah, it's gonna be great. They're gonna to hold up
In the deal the licenses of Delta and Power Sports in the UK, which
had the rights to sell the videos, was concluded when the companies agreed to
give up their license and have changed for one hundred and ninety five thousand dollars
payout UH. In exchange, Delta agrees to ship to be about five hundred
hours of ECB Master tapes. Delta has ninety days from receiving a major payout
to cease selling tapes. So I didn't realize it took that. It took
two years from them after the invasion and all that stuff to even own ECWS
drademarks. That's crazy. Yeah, it's also crazy that like they got it
for a pretty relatively like pretty good price, one hundred ninety five thousand for
ECW's entire libraries. Fucking gnarly. Yeah, I mean they definitely like made
more than Oh my god, they made it back in the first year,
first in the Horizon falls, like made him a million easily, right,
Yeah, fucking hell um. There was nearly a fight at an indie show
last week in Gainesville, Georgia, between Buff Bagwell and j Styles. Let's
go. It was at his house. Bagwell was mouthing off when Styles didn't
shake his hand in the dressing room. It was a situation that had to
be broken up. According to one person who was there. When I went
down, Styles unknowingly didn't have the right etiquette and going up to Bagwell,
but that Bagwell totally overreacted in the situation. The line up for the show
was changed because Bagwear refused to work with AJ and claimed he would never put
him over in the ring. Dude, what, yeah, he wouldn't.
He didn't want to. I guess it was supposed to be him and AJ
on the show and he didn't want to work him now, And AJ said
said, you're taking food off my family, because that's what it looks like.
There's also an observing thing here where Bagwell reached out to WWE again and
John Lare and I just told him that they don't have anything for him right
now, but they would think there's anything, kid, we would like you,
but we just don't have anything right now. Buff stuff Yeah yeah,
I mean it's kind of your job to make stuff. It does stuff.
Literally, we'll have another voye. Well, I mean you can make something.
No, No, I mean you know. Landstorm was told that the
boring gimmick that he was being given was a way to copy the success of
the use suck gimmick and getting Team Angle and Kurt Angle over. It was
a feeling that if they gave Landstorm the boring chance that people would get it
out of their system. That mindset didn't pan out, as there was noticeable
increasing boring chance the night after as well as the night after that, and
then for the rest of his fucking career. Yeah wow, what a backfire.
Yeah, I mean, how do they think that that's the same kind
of heat? Though, being told that you suck is not to be the
same as being told that you're fucking boring? Yeah, I mean, it
stayed with him forever, and like post career, it stayed with him.
He would just said this about him forever and it was came like what people
thought of him. Oh, he was boring. Are you having like the
most decorated WW wrestle of all time? Chastise him on TV for weeks?
Yeah, it awesome, bringing out a pillow and fall asleep, frighted.
Hell the serious and like not laughing at stuff and like all that ship is
very good. It was very it is good. It was easy to make
fun of without doing the ball. Yeah, damn way. By the way,
In Stacy Keeler News, James uh Stacy was riding on a plane recently
with Mick Foley and told him that she read his book and in that book
she felt sorry for test who fully deservedly ripped Meltzer put deservely ripped on regularly
regularly due to not being so great at acting anyway, She told fully that
she ended up getting with him because of that, so she felt bad for
him, and that's how they started dating, because big Folly shit on him.
And it's yeah, and Meltzer put. So. Now you've got a
dressing room full of single wrestlers who wish Folly would make fun of them regularly.
That's all you, dude. You just had to have somebody fucking be
mean to you for a long enough and Stacey would have dated you, man,
No, no, you know you have to be jacked and tall and
block. Yeah yeah, well James is right about there. He's probably the
same highest test right six yeah yeah yeah, an same hair pretty much like
people don't know because I'm sitting down all the time, but I am like
that big yeah yeah yeah. And you know, I think you can make
it happen. I think there's still hope. So if we wrote a Deadlock
book and we're just really mean about you the whole time and somehow Stacy people
reads it, if you were nice about me in the Dela book, I'd
be surprised, dare you? Of course? From The Observer July seven,
two thousand and three, Haul Cogan officially made umbing that he well that he
was parting ways with w B once again on June thirtieth, in an interview
that morning on the Bubba Love Sponge Show. Wait, eventually, we should
like look up some of the Bubba and Hogan like wrestling episodes where Hogan like
gives his thoughts on wrestling because Bubba asked him when he's in WCW. On
WCW, could we like do an sgh on that? Do you think that
would work. I don't maybe watch this or something like that, Like there's
gotta be a way that we can like because I feel like that's something where
you have to pause and digest and then continue. But if there might be
something there anyway. Hogan quit after the SmackDown tapings on June twenty fourth and
Madison Square Garden. Hogan, from all accounts, tore down the house live,
says Meltzer, and basically on his own did the Hogan posing routine after
the TV taping ended for several minutes, but it was unhappy about how Creative
was handling the Mister America character. He had come off losing the Vinca ban
and an arm wrestling match that didn't seem to serve a purpose, and then
lost the big shows choked slam in the sixpan tag. I don't know why
I put it like that. Of course. It was the third time in
one year that Hogan and McMahon had a falling out. The first one was
in August of last year, when Hogan decided to leave after doing a big
time job for brock Lessner, so they scripted an injury angle to write him
off, which did great for Brock. I mean we I think we talked
about that recently where yeah it did. We made it a big deal.
That was allome, That was awesome. Well, Hogan wasn't happy just off,
Yeah, that wasn't on the pod. Yeah, Hogan wasn't happy with
his character. Then since he complained about leaving that he should have gotten a
few more wins. Uh. He had agreed to come back in Survivor Series
for a match with Lesner, but then just before he returned, he wanted
to win the title in the match from Brock. The company decided that was
a bad move and it was pretty bitter situation after that, and then another
interview with blahbla Love Sponge, he claimed he was never coming back to w
WE ever again. All Right, dude, well that's not true. And
also U yeah, that whole thing is crazy. You're right. We we
talked about talking about mister America too, right, Yeah, we just talked
about him leaving. Yeah, just because that was like crazy, like he
took the mask off after the show and then he showed it and then the
next week because he quit because he wasn't going up that, Vince said,
look there he is. That was he's fired because of this dude. That's
such a great point. I really there's there's gotta be archives of that show
right with Hogan on it. Yeah. I actually saw one the other day.
Did Yeah, I can't remember. Yeah, it was WCWS in the
middle of his run. Um, I can't remember what it was. It
was like it was something about somebody being a star or something in Kidman.
It probably was kid and it probably was because Giveman went up on him like
three times or something he did. Yeah, but I think I think Hogan
like Kidman or or he saw him at the least amount of threat. He
probably was the least annoying of the bunch. He hated Verry Saturn for some
reason. Yeah, I was always getting buried. But yeah, I saw
one recently where like it did like, um, it showed like the footage
or whatever, and Hogan was like talking about I don't know what they saw
him brother working. Yeah, it's so crazy, it's crazy. Did he
get away with that? I guess because he was all Cogan right. That
doesn't last, you know, it doesn't. That does not work. I
say, you're mister America and you're losing, and you're an idiot that gaunt
your friend and he we hate you. It's crazy. Last piece of thing
here. Um Lens Saint Clair, who was wrestled for more than a decade,
mainly in Canadian indies and was at one time an over attraction for FMW
in Japan, announced his retirement. You boys may know him as doctor Luther.
Oh wow, his retirement. He retired woll. Of course, we
all know the wrestling retirement, so even those who are serious often changed their
minds, and others do it for the publicity. Saint Clair said he made
a decision due to painful and nagging knee injuries. He said he can still
go, but doesn't want to be an indie guy hanging on who can't do
it anymore or be crippled by the time he's forty. But thankfully he does
come back around for the boy. Yeah, that's crazy. I don't know
if I told you, Tony. I ran into him in Vegas in the
lobby. Yeah, he looks fucking great, dude. Yeah, dude,
he's fucking huge. He says, more ripped than he was when I saw
him last time, more ripped than two thousand and three. That's crazy.
Hell. Yeah, I was telling him about the Onita and tenru fucking program
that I got from the store we got went to in Japan that had Doctor
Russer and his Yeah, he was saying like he remembered something like I don't
know if it was that one specifically, but he would like look on like
the like the lineup for a show and be like, where's my name and
they were like, oh, you're right here would be Doctor Rouster. That's
crazy. He shout out to Luther fucking still the best TV or something on
the rundown one down him by night? Oh really? Yeah, yeah,
something that's awesome. Let's go have him beat Punk on Collision. That's what
I want. He probably love. He probably gig for him too hot,
But you go. That was all that was really going around around the time.
I was trying to find stuff about that came on Masking, but there
really wasn't anything. It didn't seem like anyone gave a fun which really is
the crux of this show. All Right, it's time to get into the
actual Monday Night Raw episode. Wait, Eric Bischoo, so I'm old,
Yeah, dude, I love that so much. It was probably the best
version of the Raw intro. It's got Stacey and the black gear, it's
got Scott Steiner, it's got the mud rest. Yeah, what else could
you need from this? Really? You're right, that's well, Triple H
versus Kane is a night for the world title. And if you guys didn't
know, if Kane loses this match in mass and Square Garden, he must
reveal his identity. That's a crazier way to put it. Who'd be crazy
with somebody else? Oh my god, that would I don't even know what
I would have done. Like if they the whole time they saw this was
actually Albert the whole time, he just had a hair on a mask.
They just gave him a little hair like that. Yeah, Jr. Says,
we're in the Holy Cathedral Sports Entertainment manson Square Garden. I was like,
Jesus, they're putting this over They used to I remember they used to
put over Masquare gardens so big. I mean shit, they did rescume to
twenty here. Yeah, you're right, but like they didn't really treat them
to a great card. Yeah, hell, they gave him the Kane I
didity revealed. He revealed what you wanted to see. So we have h
We started off here with Scott Steiner and Booker t versus Test and Christian.
Oh hell yeah, dude. Steiner comes out with Stacy. Huge fucking pop
by the way. Yeah, man, they're both super over. Scott's stuck.
They were just waited a couple more years for the invasion. I tell
you what, it's been awesome. You're right, man, Yeah, they
could have just waited, but I guess I don't know, like if they
revealed they bought WCW. Yeah, and they just said, I don't know,
you know what I mean, Like I don't know. I just got
the ECW tape very So now we're cooking now, Yeah, you're right.
Now that can show all the footage he see up is coming back, bro,
don't worry kan there Yeah, okay, there never forgets, so Sta
never forgets. He won the managerial services of States Bad Blood, Bad Blood.
Yeah that's what they said. Um, so, I mean you got
three goats right here to start raw. I mean, this is awesome.
You got Scott sign you guys, Stacey. Yeah, you can say four,
you got book, you got Christian Test, oh yeah, five?
Five? Yeah, okay, So we have a test video package that it
shows that he pump handles slam May Young last week. He oh my god,
yeah, so he Bischoff made a match for him to face may Young.
Test shoves Mula to hell and then fucking loads up with Young for the
gnarliest pump handle slam he's ever hit before. So Christian comes out here,
he's got the Inner Continental Championship Red Tights loop theme song. Here comes the
pain, Christiana, CHRISTI right here. You're right, that's crazy paper.
It looked like yeah, well, I mean that's how That's how Gear always
was. It was always like that. I like that Gear. Mayng got
stretched out and but they updated. She got released from the hospital and she's
home now. Probably watch surely watching w B Monday Night. Raw dude,
we've seen her fucking you know what I mean, destroyed. I know she
watched that ship, but I know as got destroyed by Bubba. Some lovely
moments with her were Bubba beat her up and Test beat her up and uh,
she had a stinky pussy and the referee threw up, didn't rand arc
or no? That was right? Maybe brought both Jeff Jaron and I later
with a guitar. All her defining moments, I remember one moment before she
came back and got her as beat or a luxtrious shit a cane runs stays
destruc beat up, beat up, beat up, beat up, never winning,
beat up, old old dude. I only remember her as old.
I don't remember anything else was. So we get into the match here.
Uh they do some stuff for sure for a minute. Well yeah, well
more importantly, James, I thought you were gonna note that Steiner and Stacy's
entrance in the ring is uh legendary. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean
it's pretty good. I think if I was doing it it would be a
lot better. But it's okay, I won't ask. We'll leave that to
the uh to when it actually happens. When you think, you guys,
you go to deadlock PW dot com. You guys can vote right now on
if it would be better with Steiner or me. He like tells her to
do the walk or you know, the bend over the rope entrance twice,
and then also when she leaves the ring also does it again. So Steiner
is constantly just trying to look at her. Ask good, because I mean
it's it gets a huge pop super over, you know, if it fills
in Steiner's character. Stacy is great. I mean, this is like her
probably her biggest run here like that at least most people remember is the one
with Testing Steiner Summer Stay. Yeah, I mean we're in the summer of
a lot of people, the multifaceted summer of many young and stinky, distraught
w b run um. So Stacy gets on the apron here in this matchup,
Test grabs her and j R. Emilio is unhand her her Stacy that
slaps Test. He goes to swing on. He goes back, but Steiner
stops him. Test then pushes Steiner into Stacy, knocking her off the apron.
She sprains her ankle, and then Test hits the big boot on Steiner
and wins the match. Yeah. Christian trying to hit Steiner with the title,
the icy title, but Booker kicks him and they both go to floor
running fucking big boot. Great fucking move. It looked good. It looked
awesome. Yeah, I love that fucking move. Scott Suner ate that whole
boot too. There was also one point during the match Steiner doesn't overhead slam
with there's gonna mother Fffinbaum Christian, but he bigs Christian up and he looks
at her and says, huh, where do you want him? Where do
you want him? And he just throws him to the floor over. I
love the Sunner always talked to the crowd. I feel like a lot of
WB people at the time like didn't interact with the crowd. I was like
a WCW thing. You dude. They're probably told I'm not to do that.
Yes, they probably told Steiner not to do it too, and he
just you can't stop this. They probably told him stop flexing at the camera
to get out of here. But he's like a Yeah, Christian and Booker
t are in the middle of an Intercontinental Championship feed right now. Yes,
but this match was not so much about that. No, it was definitely
just they're building up too, because I think Steiner and Test just had the
Bad Blood match where Steiner jumps off the apron. Is that the Bad Blood
match? Oh? Is that the on that on Raw? Maybe that was
definitely a pay per view, right it might have been. I mean,
I feel like they're for Steiner's entire last running duty, right, and then
they go on forever it Yeah, I think so. I don't know if
he does much else after Test goes on forever I feel like, yeah,
Steiner jumps off the apron and gets eaten by the apron monster at one point
two it was it was it TNA where he goes to hit Christian off the
apron and Christian just takes himself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Tony.
I do remember him his thong. I think he did a tell you like
a power bomb or a power slim or something. Yeah, I don't know.
It was crazy to look at this ass and everyone's like, Wow,
that's a nice ass, and that's awesome. He should beat you. Foiled
again. So the go backstage, Kane is looking at himself in the mirror.
They showed the shot and I fucking immediately burst out laughing. I don't
know why he didn't do anything. I thought the same thing. I was
cracking up for this reason. It's him. Where is this like a it's
not a boiler room, it's like a storage room. It's his house.
It's sorry, his personal locker room. I think there's like a mirror there
and everything, a mirror dressing room lit up red by the way, He's
got red lights around and he's staring at himself in the mirror and it slowly
zooms in and then it goes into like a dream sequence, bubbles away like
a cartoon. Yeah, it does. Like Arthur, what is he thinking
right now? And it is? It is Caine reminiscing about October nineteen ninety
seven when he debuted. It was one of his most popular, most biggest,
already reminisced about that when he could reminiscent by him taking his mask off
from him. They should have been instead, like at him thinking about what
it will be like when he had masks. He's reminiscing about Stacy god Road
twice in he's reminiscing about Choke slamming me young. But it's a genuine dream
sequence where he's thinking about this and we can zee, we can see it.
Fucking Waller says, is Kane looking? Is Kane looking into his future
or in it was past? We just saw he's looking at October nine.
How does Jerry Lawler know what Kane's How do we know he's dog the baby
It talks the dog time. Yeah, that's right, because he's clairvoyant.
That was always his gibbick. You never just got onto that. Kine always
had dream sequences. Yes, this one and old he's Yeah, that's right,
Kane reminiscing in two thousand, Dix ran a train on him, cling
Tory like they come back from the dream sequence and he's still no. I
think. He turns around, like stares at the wall like they definitely told
him, Hey, just disengage from the mirror and do something else. So
Kane just just big step around. It turns around. There's nowhere to walk,
so he just faces the wall like he's in fucking He's the cameras like
a wide shot, so it looks so late and he just turns around.
It looks the wall line reminiscing over there. He was looking at something here,
checking his hip. His hair is fucked up up for the night.
Well, you can go to w dot com and vote on the pole or
what Kane's thinking of you and I will be voting dot com. If you're
in the West coast, you can't though, sorry, yeah you're not allowing
the West coast. But I will tell you this much. I know the
answer to this until I definitely gonn answer. It was like, yeah,
Johnny poles or what are these real poles? Yeah, reminiscing about the Johnny
about me kicking your ass. I'm reminiscing about the future, about you sucking
my dish. I'm reminiscing about how good I did. You did great,
reminiscing about it a great job, how you did awesome? All Right,
you can vote to a shop downe deadlock BW dot dot on three pieces of
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with your money. So now it's uh. Now it's time for the Christen
No Whiskey white Boy Challenge. Grasp the point of this segment. But christ
Whiskey versus Maven is up next. Oh, I wanted to ask you,
by the way, just before we get to that. Did you like the
commentary table next to the stage. What do you think of that? Both
of you? Yeah? He me a WCW Yes, I like. I
like this shot where they show him sitting there and you can sud they be
ringside. Other than for them to use the table as I always I liked
it because I got to see what Pans Jr. Was wearing. You never
got to see Jr's lower body unless he got in the ring. That shot,
Yeah, that shot of them looking at the camera with the back behind
him reminded me of WCW so much. Yeah, and like that shot.
Not only is that shot awesome, but even this era of WW I remember
this so much like that shot at C and Jr. You know, like
I think that's really cool. Yeah, I mean, how could you even
argue, like kfebe wise? Like what fuck would they be ringside? Does
he would have like an answer to why they would be ringsided? Not up
there? I guess just closer to the action. Usually the people that are
ringside are the or is the ringing ouncer, the bell right la la la,
you know what I mean. It was probably just to keep it was
probably just to keep it all like right there, you know, like the
timekeeper and the bell and the thing. You know. And Vince was on
commentary too, so maybe he needed to be ringside. I don't know why
he would need to be. I'm just guessing. I wonder if there is
a reason, like Kfe not like the yeah problem I remembers through it right
SmackDown was ringside? Still, Yeah, they wanted I think they just wanted
it to be different, right, that was the idea, that's right.
Yeah. Yeah, I was gonna say, like a few years ago they
brought it back didn't they They had a commentary like up there, like uh,
maybe before the pandemic or something. I can't remember. I went to
a raw when it was like Christmas time, and I think Dean Ambrose was
there or something. I don't know. Oh, I do remember that because
I mean, fucking aw has it up there now? Right? Yeah?
But but it's so weird the way they It's so weird the way they do
the camera shot, because they'll take the chairs away from them and then they'll
spake the stand stand and do the shot and then they'll bring the chairs back.
It's such a weird thing that I don't know. I don't think they
do that on this raw, but they definitely did it like later. I
don't know if they don't do that anymore. They just have them sitting down
and they just know why take the shots. Not even commentary anymore. They
still doing so Christ de Whiskey versus Mavenu. What do you think of Teddy
Long's fucking suit jacket? I love it, man, that's like so NBA
Draft two thousands suit Like. I like that. It is so long.
Yeah, it's beastly. That was just a style. You know, you're
a rocket back then dude, it's all it's fucking unbelievable. Well, while
they're making their entrance, Jared says, well, ladies and jernmen, don't
miss the world premiere of Renn and Stimpy's oh new adult party cartoon Gary the
Rat and strip Arella dish Tursday night. I remember Striparella. I don't remember
Gary the Rat The Rat, No, no, I don't. Spike TV
was crazy. Gary the Rat was an American adult animated sitcom created by the
Cullen Brothers. Oh no, I'm looking at this rat. I remember this
little badad beast series. Oh my god, get his ass. He had
two seasons supposedly, wow, okay, he was a self centered, misanthropic
defense attorney who awakens one morning to find that he has somehow transformed into a
giant rat. Dude. Stanley's Striparella. Yeah you don't remember Stripper. I
totally Stanley Stanley, Stanley Stanley, Yeah, yeah, I remember. They
try to make it like they like boobs and stuff, and they went so
they went way harder. Yeah, it was they were not trying to be
subtle about it. I think it wasn't even funny. It was just not
good. I don't I think it was nuts. Really, if it watched
it back now, it's probably insane to watch. I thought the original renistimp
was insane. It was, but it was still like they wanted it on,
like Nick, you know what I mean. So they it was like
trying to be tongue in cheek as they could be. But when they brought
it back on Spike, it was just like yeah, fucking titty fuck bit
o. Wow. But yeah, so they're out here for the is it?
It's not the five minute white point Challenge? But uh, you know,
Christopher and Winsky has been facing some injustice of course, yeah, of
course, victim of discriminate. Yes, theater long is here to talk about
the injustice has been brought upon this man, Christopher Nowinsky. You feel me
he should have won tough enough, believe that, and I'll tell you why
he didn't. It's because he's a victim of discrimination. Not because of the
color of his skin though, but because he's smart, which is also why
I'm discriminated against on this podcast. Well, he's a Harvard graduate. James
is sending Grenning snippy Gibbs, that is fucking them fucking each other. In
the end, he's sawing a log with his Yeah this shit. Yeah,
they ain't do it like this no more theater long, says Chris Woper.
Nooski is a Harvard graduate and here's what he's gonna do tonight. Maven is
gonna find out that from you, Christopher Nowinsky, just what color he really
is, because Maven, you know, Leadskin Brothers went out three years ago.
Get out here. Belie that that was crazy, that dude. Yeah.
So Christopher Nowinsky is speed running ct AT this morning, Yeah, which
is impressive. He is so fucked up here and they know it obviously because
this match with Maven goes a minute. He fucking goes to suplex Maven.
Maven rolls him up bridges and gets the wind so quick that Jared says,
all in your fall, Well he gotta win. He won. Yeah,
they didn't even know. They had to watch the replay just to figure it
out. Irish whip gut kick cut off pin is insane. Irish whip guy
kick it's crazy, dude, enough guys were cooking crazy man, that's nuts.
No tald him how to fucking work man? Yeah, he's a guy
kick on the Irish rope is nuts, say I hear you trip Lake,
say, don't ever do that again, or we'll give you. Look at
gush and they did tell you long that shows his ass at the end.
There you see that he catch that he's in I did catch that. He
also is in the ringing he thinks he's the thinker. I don't know if
you noticed that as well. Oh I didn't see the thin part. He
does think he's the thinker, but yeah, he's he like starts slapping his
ass towards Maven. I guess to imply that he Maven pulled the tights he
was bridging though, So I don't I don't think that's possibly so horrible.
Yeah, interesting, you're telling me fucking who did that song? Mercy Drive
is uh really fucking putting them down budget wise? You can't just fucking Mercy
Drive just can't be a WB band. No, I don't think what a
great song though, Yeah, no, way too good for what you wanted
to say. YEA, So Evolution is here, which, of course Randy
Orton, Rick Flair, and Greg the Hammer Valley he's there too. Mark
Jindrek sadly not there. He's in super Hell. But Tista also not here.
But I get what was he injured. No, he took five months
ago. He took knees of mask missing. Ever since, with the mask
on, it was like Jim Carrey's the mask and turn him on a whole
different person as nuts. So Chris Jericho's highlight Reel is up next. Oh
yes, I've talked about it before, but I cannot believe that this talk
show trope is still around today. I can't believe it. This is twenty
this is two o three. You're right, twenty years ago, legitimately twenty
years ago, and they still do this. These segments nowadays are the most
can miss and will miss. And I'm not watching ask Yeah, but yeah,
but back then, I thought the highlight reel was awesome. It was
cool. It had a set, That's why it was cool. Like I
mean, like sometimes you can get it, but like, like you said,
how much more can you do with it? Dude? Yeah? Really?
How much? Forget? They just come out to him promo, why's
it gonna be? Ay? He comes out over this high They really see
They go, what's Jericho doing? Who's his guest? I don't know.
We are not watching this though, we do not care, not even a
little bit. So Chris Jericho comes out and buries New York. Of course,
so it shows last week Steve Austin, Uh infamously Jill's lant Storm buries
him forever. He says he's boring and falls asleep on stage. Yeah,
Jericho says, uh, let's go to the Jerichtron five thousand to show the
footage. Run the footage, monkeys. Yeah, they showed the Austin thing
where he Yeah, he's on the stage. As James said, he brought
a blanket and a pillow he saw I'm getting at sleepy up here, and
he lays down on the stage comfy, starts snoring. Dude, what the
fuck? Yeah, that is crazy. I mean, they have a ton
of shit ass ballass wrestlers on this show, and they said Lantstorm in particular,
you boring as idiot. Look at the man even was right there right
here, right here. Yeah, man, this is nuts. The problem
was right here on the show. Shit allright. Bret's on strike eight now
anyway, going he's given strikes away for nothing. Man, we gotta take
a strike forget about all that non factor bamright, but uh, Landstorm could
not get retribution for this because he's not gonna have a match with Stoneholder,
and he's just gonna eat some more stunners. So the whole boring thing doesn't
make sense like that. Yeah, I guess you're right. Henna beat Steve
Auston? What year is this game? James has a point? Yeah,
could beat what would have just beat Steve Auston? You know? Yeah,
Landstorm should have beat Steve Boston. Yes, but would he know he would
not? He would if he wanted to beat he should have bet he should
have superham the helludy he didn't use boring and he didn't do anything. Yeah,
you're right, I mean, what a great gimmick. You're boring his
hell man, look at you're boring, right, this is the next you
suck. They would say, wrestle boring Austin, make sure all you should
make sure you get the chin lock in there. They made him wrestle more
boring. Yeah, that's absurd, that's crazy because he's a heel dude.
He couldn't get a heat by doing all the things he already had heat from
doing. Even he they just shan't have boring. You're right, all right,
So of course Landstorm has something to say to Ston't go Steve Austin.
So, yeah, of course landstorms out here. No one enjoys a good
laugh more than landstorm. But Steve aust across the line last week. Okay,
well, what are you doing about it? You're gonna you're gonna beat
him? Uh no, I'm going to uh continue talking. I'm an athlete,
Beard, simple, my abilities inside this ring should be more enough to
entertain the masses. And if you want bells and whistles, I suggest you
attend the circus. And Jericho says, yeahs and whistle wrestler of all time.
By the way, this is a prepared statement from last time he was
reading off a note card. Yes, yes, so that's made even more
boring. Well, Lance is still talking, and then a group of dudes
just come out and start breaking down the fucking highlight real set, and Jericho
says, what the fuck are you doing? Man? Stop, don't touch
that, and all of a sudden, you here, borer. Well I
know you're not gonna vote my ass going. You can do about it nothing.
This is crazy. Hey, Jericho, aren't you listen to me?
You gotta putch your shelf in my shoes. You're boring Madison Square Garden to
death. You're moving, guys, get those bar stools in carpeting. Get
that out of my ring right now. Get that crap out, and Jericho
says, you're a jealous jack as Austin. You're better that I beat you
at the Rock the same night. Come to Undespee the champion that was two
years ago. I love that he Crux is on this forever. It's one
of my favorite Jericho. It's tremendous. I say, shut shut your stupid
at all. He said that is so nuts too, the way he's a
stupid little hole, was straight at you like that. If there's one thing
I can't stand more than a bore, it's a bitch. Right now,
you're not even bore. You're not just boring, but you're a bitch.
God Lance. Last week I was trying to help you out, and if
you took it the wrong way, well then that's your problem and you're not
gonna wots. I promise you that. I promise you that, I'll tell
you right, saying as you're such a great athlete and sorry, asked Chris
Jericho for that out pitch his way off. I'm gonna make a match right
now, Chris. I know you're upset getting your little furniture moved out of
a ring show, the two guys you're about to face no no, something
about moving furniture. So like the music and then the fucking Dudley's come out
and everyone loses the crowd. Bob's crazy for the fucking Dudley's. There is
something. There's like a different I don't know if it's cadence or attitude or
the way that he talks. But Austin during his run and then Austin after
he comes back to be like the GM raw is he's like mean, like
yeah, yeah, Like there's like I don't know, there's like a sort
of un he's either taking liberties or they're telling him to do it. I
don't know. Like I mean, of course, around the time that he
like walked out the first time, and then you know, a lot of
shit happened. The internet was I don't know if you like a lot of
people know this, but the internet was kind of turning on Austin. Yeah,
there's a lot more to it than just like him walking out too,
Like there was and Austin wasn't happy. Fans online weren't happy. Austin was
on bite this saying I hate this shit. Yeah, yeah, there was
a lot. There's a lot of shit going on. So I don't even
know if like Austin looks back on this this like as a good time.
Have I ever I don't know if I've ever heard Steve Austin really talk about
this era. Do they ever show it in like, you know, you
look back at you know, documentaries, Do they ever reflect on this era
of Austin at all? I don't if that shirt is it? Is it?
Because maybe it was in a game or something like the Fear and like
the ATV's they talk about Yeah yeah, but like yeah that like this stuff
is not he does right, yeah, Stunner and Rock and yeah yeah,
that's only just because it was the people saying it was the best part of
the batch. This was such a weird era of WB There was so much
change happening, and then like fuck man, yeah, like all the guys
like Rock and Goldberg go fucking peace out. Yeah, like Rock is gone,
the Rock leaves. Yeah, yeah, it is fucking weird. So
what are you gonna do about it? You lanch JOm about not coming there
would don I'll leave you book mean lanch shop and I'm not coming here to
work today and that'll be fine. So that does he even do the catchphrases
anymore? Like, doesn't he do the catchphrases? He's got what I don't
think so, yeah, what he does he doesn't even do the what the
crowd is doing it? Yeah, you're right, he doesn't do the catch
phrase anymore. He just calls people a bitch and a little hole. Yeah,
I'm reminiscent about whose careers I'm gonna fuck up the next time. So
like night and day difference, right, night day difference. I never even
really thought about it too much, you know, like I just remember like
his cadence being a lot more. This felt like a chubbw character. Yeah,
this is like a vicious character. Like they were like, WW two
thousand worth, you were coming out and just saying whatever you wanted. Well,
we got the Dudley Boys out here and they're gonna face off against the
thrill Seekers, which is pretty cool. Well it should be. Anyways,
the reference at all, I didn't hear it anything. I don't know,
I don't know. Yeah, I didn't even I didn't even think about it
until he said that. That's crazy. Yeah, on paper, like crazy,
crazy match, but yeah, wow, storm saddled, well, his
Storm was saddled with a he's a super boring so you know you can only
get so much here. At least the Dully boys are super over, so
that's fun. How often did a wrestler like Bubba always would start the chance?
I think he would start the table chance and like, how many wrestlers
do that? I don't really, I can't really think of many people that
start their own chairs. Dude, Bubba wouldn't be you always thought it was
really I always find it weird. He did this a lot in TENA,
he started doing it in too, but where you do three two, yeah,
it's like the count down. It was cool because the crowd would stay
yeah yeah, right, you don't got to force it. Let the crowd
dictated, not you, but he right, I mean it worked. They
would do it. They would do it. Yeah no, I mean,
you know, he's got the crowd thing down. But as a fan watching
I always loved when like like it's like when they do the three D and
like the crowd goes, yeah. If he if he said all right,
everybody shot three D, you know it wouldn't before. But yeah, crowds
chanting boring at Lant Storm. These guys not doing nothing. He's putting in
chin locks and boring the match here, sure, ms, you got to
give it a Lant Storm man. The guy did exactly what they asked him
to do at all times. He was like, I mean, he was
fucking leaning into it as much as he could. But he got a lot
more in WWW than a lot of his UH co workers did. Well.
Yeah, yeah, sure he was on TV a lot more. They must
like him because he just shut up and listened and did what he was asked
and he was a solid worker, like he didn't like good Yeah, yeah,
he just knew what he was doing. You know, he is boring.
He may need a Christmas trans playing a long the way. Yeah,
it's crazy, but yeah they really This is really just the double boys just
yeah, waiting for them to do their shit at the end. Dude,
every time Lance is on offense, it's immediate boring. Chance. How the
fuck that they think springboard clothesline boring? I guess that's the reaction they wanted,
right, I don't know. I'm kind of confused on now we're supposed
to perceive this was that good or bad? That Storm is getting boring chance,
I think it was real good or Devon's second rope neckbreaker might be one
of the most underrated moves in prorestling. It's beautiful everything it is so no,
why is that? Is it like the way he comes out with it
or what it's like? There's like a spring almost lunch to it. Yeah,
spring is a great way to put it. I really like it though.
It's fucking awesome. They do the wiz app on Landstorm and and Lanstorm
getting his genitalia rearranged. All right, okay, public tells Devon to get
the tables, and on commentary they talk about Freddie Blassie uh telling them to
get the tables and feel the week before this, and we just talked about
that. Oh yeah, you're right, we did well. Freddy Blastie is
dead now, sorry you rest in peace. Freddy uh Storm accidentally bumps Jerk
off the apron and turns around into the three D and the Dudley's win three
D. That was so awesome. It's probably the best tag finish forever.
Okay. I was just about to say it's that or the doomsday, right,
yeah, like, but the three D is so the total elimination or
whatever, it's cool too. Yeah, I think they always killed people with
it. But if you I guess it's a different conversation if you don't include
the crowd reaction also because you're crowd saying three D dude, I get goosebumps
every time. It's I can't imagine like doing it. I bet that was
like the coolest thing ever to like hear that every time you go out there
and got to do that. They loved it so much, said they're about
to go to TNA. Is there any is there any move that gets that
reaction? You can't see me maybe, oh maybe, oh yeah, maybe
you can't see me. Oh sure, that's not the same like when when,
but that's like get the tables. Yeah, that's not the move.
Actually, yeah, somebody let us know. Yeah, somebody's got him.
Yeah yeah, three days awesome. Well, five months ago, Kane was
unmasked by evolution. This he is so point. I wanted, okay,
yes, because Tony before we started here was starting to spit. I said,
hold on, save it. They still came his mass five months ago,
five months ago, and he Batista, Yes, Batista's I guess he's
got like a torn triceper Bicepper or something. It happened in the tag team
and shit, yeah, Batista's I first, goot, I forgot about that.
That's why I forgotten that. He It was like was it a house
shower or no, it was like raw, It might have been raw.
It was just a tag team match, and like, yeah, he was
out because then they started doing the video package when he comes back. He's
in Evolution though, right, yes, he joined Evolution at the beginning of
the year. It took sorry Amy cut off, Tony, but I do
remember this because I remember just watching something about this. It was fucking Orton
and Batiste against the Dudley's. Yeah, that's what it was. And they
blame they blame them Dudley's. Yeah, well they blame Bubbah. Yeah like
that, like said, no, it was not said that should just happens.
I don't know me, Yeah, sorry, Tony. Continue. Oh
yeah, so five months ago they took his mask and then Kane just puts
his mask back on and he's good, but they feel crazy where they do
take his mask. His hair is not attached to the mask. It's just
it's his hair. It's like beautiful locks. Yeah, gorgeous hair. He's
got regular hair. But as we'll see later foreshadowing later tonight. He also
he also runs up the ramp like he's a crying baby. Dude. I
said, he like Coach Klein from water Boy. Oh my god, Jesus
so crazy. Why why should run up the ramp? Man? That's Kane.
He's running away because his mask got taken off. Come on, bro,
turn the camera. But again, what's the stop if it just putting
a mask on or getting a new mask and putting it on his I don't
know. Well he does, yeahs another mask. His hair is on his
head. It's his scalp style. It's real, just regular style. Keep
that in mind. Well, speaking of Kane, Yeah, kin is backstage
pondering was that a dream, by the way, or was that just the
thing that happened? You know, he's reminiscent when they showed Kane's evolution.
Thing that was just like, was that the future of the I don't think
Kane was thinking about that one. I think thats a camera. Are you
sure go straight to him back? Well, he is, that's he's but
this is him walking back and forth. So I think when he stares into
the mirrors, when he goes into He has to look into his eyes to
see his own thoughts. That's how it works. Well. Yeah, he's
walking back and forth red light storage container room, and Lawler says, I
heard, I heard his sorry, I heard his face is hideous, and
then it cuts to Randy Horton trying to read, having a hard time too
reading Mick Foley's new book. I didn't know what it was at first.
I was like, what he's fucking reading? Curious, George, what's going
on? Yeah? I look like a kid's book. I don't I don't
know if I read this one. I didn't either know. Well, Randy
Orton is reading from Mick Foli's book, and Mick Foley wrote about you know,
I don't even know if he wrote that. You know, what's funny
is I don't know if Randy Orton was just ribbing or if Mick Foley wrote
this, Because it does sound like some shit. Mckfolio was right, I
think it's reading it. Yeah, exact an exact exert. Yes, that's
correct, Yes, yes, excerpt. I didn't write it down, but
it's pretty much Mick Foley talking about hanging out with a girl and then touching
her breast. Yeah, it's such her breast and thinking that she wanted to
kiss him and Folly first of all, it's weird as hell. That's right
about it. Man. I'm telling you like, I don't want to start.
He's gonna strike, man, Come on, man, I don't want
to start putting strikes with the goat. Like if we get to us a
couple episodes here, Folly's gonna get a strike. He's always getting strikes.
Kattis jacket getting a strike. No, No, mcfoley is strike out.
He's been striped out for twenty years. Yeah, strike out a lockdown,
Okay, tidy, But Flair says, i'll like mcfoley's ever felt a woman's
breast. Give me a break, mcfoley. If I see him down'll go.
But tonight we got two major agendas, our tag match with Nash and
Michaels I said, Holy and number two we're in the Big Apple. We
gotta make sure trip h walks out the doors Champion and this whole like for
a solid like thirty seconds, Orton has his hand out to dap Flaire and
Flair just is still talking. So it's an awkward amount of time before he
dashm one. Now it's time for the Law Resistance Open Challenge. No yes,
so okay, I'm a little confused here because Law Resistance comes out.
They're the tag champions. Lillian announces that is a non title tag match,
so we already know that it's a tag title. It's a non title tag
motel. They didn't know they were facing the fucking Hurricane. No way,
open Challenge. This is a proving ground match. Law Resistance and Cody Rhodes
Jaggeds they come out here. They're the raw tag team champions. They beat
Canan RVD. That's right, which is insane, and Law Resistance are here
to sing their beast national anthem at York. Yeah, they sing all the
way through commercial break here, dude, they not okay, So they play
the music, they start singing their national anthem. It goes to commercial.
We're back from commercial. Their theme song is playing, but they're still singing
the What is happening here? I'm a French guy. Well, Hurricane interrupts
her. Hurricane comes down and says, holy biaches, get it because he
is on full sound board mode right now. Yeah, you two dare disrespect
the US of A in New York City? What did they do the Antons
out of the ring? Okay, man, we were you'll get Kane later.
That's okay. Oh yeah, we're gonna get something later. Will you
disrespect the USA in the New York City? What's up with that? They
didn't do anything wrong? And Silvan says, I don't know what he asks,
He says, what do you do here, superhero Man? You don't
respect the French like them? Are you challenging us for a tag match?
Find yourself an American tag team partner? Starts Slater is here, dude,
this is humpty dumpty? What the all right? Stolen Valor? First of
all, he's already got strikes on this fucking show. We're not taking that
back. He's got strikes on this show, dude, sargat Slaughter. It
looks like because he's like bleeding from his chin, it looked like they just
told him ten minutes before this, you got a fucking shave and get your
ship together and get the fuck out there now, you big fat No.
It was looking good, all right, good for me to move on.
They this dude go out there like that, looking like that, and they
like that started. Slaughter takes the head off in the ring, this is
egregious. This is fucking egregious. Is also fucking crazy. But yeah,
dude, this is the craziest ship man. They were just roasting this dude
bass. They were yet out of this match. First of let me read
the match again. A lot of resistance versus the Hurricane Sargeant Slaughter, non
title holy beat. So they had Sargeant Slaughter start a gonus ring, take
his hat off, zoom in on his head, and kingus damn. They're
talking about a commentary and Jared said, I slaughtering north of three hundred pounds
each day. I was north. The zoom in on the head when he
take on the head, they don't even minute it. There's like a silent
laughing right pressed the fucking cough button. Start laughing. What is this guy
back? What are you expected to not be bottling today? Crazy? He
used to have the bat gimmick hooking style right. The gig just fucking was.
It was crazy. Slaughter puts the Copra clutch on Rendu pre still in
jacket and tag title. So Von cuts him off, gets put in the
copra clutch. So Von tries to climb over the top rope to get out
of the submission. The referee starts to count. He's distracted by this,
so Slaughter turns around and gets annihilated with the tag title for the win.
Dude, he hit dude. Renee du pre hits Sergeant Slaughter in the head.
Is hard. He sent him back to Nam. He was like outside
the ring and Jay Law was vas told me to kill him. He fucking
nails me. Fucking coussins three. He's fucking getting destroyed by fucking twenty year
old renadu Pre annihilating it with a dumb raw tag tunnel Yard Dupree, who
has who is just basically fodder on this fucking show for them to throw around,
and he goes in it. They couldn't even let dude, they couldn't
even let them beat the hurricane. That's crazy, get it, just beat
the hurricane. No, you go crazy. I'm trying to see what else
Slaughter was doing at this fucking time. Let's see Slaughter, Okay, So
they do that. Randy Orton beats Slaughter that year in the raw Taboo Tuesday,
letting what's gonna be uh, you know that's gotta be alleged for the
legend killer right. It was. It was a legend killer match. Lobrusistance
beat Rhino and Sergeant Slaughter on raw. Muhammad a San beat Sergeant Slaughter on
raw. Sergeant Slaughter loses to Chris Masters two weeks in a row. Sargeant
Slaughter beats Nikki I was at the Spirits Qua Guy Randy Orton beat Slaughter again
three years later. Camping Jack Swagger beat him in twenty eleven. Antonio Sazzaro
beat him in twenty twelve. Fucking no, they just brought this guy back.
The whump is fat, old man. He Muhammad his son one time
in the dark. Oh sorry, Tuesday dark magine. Okay, that's good
for him. That's good. Helped a lot. You're good, all right.
Well, Kane is backstage and he's pulling his hair in the mirror,
but his hairs on his head. That this is his hair, that's not
real hair, Yes it is, it's his hair. I can see in
the background as he's pulled his hair us. So it shows that Austin three
weeks ago again, Yeah, yeah, ask to me. Austin three weeks
ago tries to get through to Kane, who he believes has soft hands.
We watched this right, it feels like we did. I think we did.
Well. Yeah, he's uh, he's what happened to you? You
bitch? You beat me for the Gemina of Title. I bet that wouldn't
happen. Now I will, I will whoop your ass. He slaps Kane.
Kane goosels Austin. I said, do it, do it, and
then Kane doesn't do it, so Austin hits someone a stunner. He wanted
the old Kane. I went to the old Stone Cold, and we come
out of dream sequence little a little bull of bubble style, and Kane is
gently rubbing his mask very sensually because he remembers that he took it off by
accident that one time. Talk about it, but yeah, Batista took this.
I forgot about that dream sequence. Kane is unfucking believable. All right,
So now it's time for the Stone Cold Steve Auston town Hall, dude,
fuck this? Why? Why? Why? It was probably nice at
the time, but I was like, wow, this is going on for
fucking ever. Well, first off, Stone Coast, Steve Ausons here to
announce our wressel made twenty be a Madison Square garden. The fucking rustle man.
It's twenty bomb drops on the fuck Madison Square Garden. Let's get the
shit out of him. He said, what the fuck? It was?
Like indeo, it must they must have put it like when Austin came out,
they said, hit all four corners so he can lower this. Did
he did? Yeah? The piro goes off the logo and Austin just stares
at the logo, confused, as if he didn't know it was going down
a right, all right, let's talk about something else. I don't really
want to talk about Russellmany. I want to talk about this son of a
bitch mcfoli. He says, if you bring your blessed carcass to the ring
mcfolio, I would like that, and Folly comes out and uh, Austin
said, I know you're going away on your book tour, by the way,
I would like an autographic copy, but just something I want you to
have, and fully backs up and he said, no, no, it's
not a stunner says stunner like mcfol I don't know what mcfoli's cadence here was
also super weird. Was he nervous or was he? I think so?
It felt like it right fold like nervous did they not tell They must have
said like, hey, we got a seg before your night, just go
react everything. Yeah, it's probably it's like I'm sure it was like a
surprise thing, like because they wanted surprise him with Yeah, next and Bets
is gonna come out and he tries off, Fuck, I'm about to have
to suck his balls or something in the dude the way that like Steve talked
to him at first, like Mick was like super nervous talking to him,
and then he was like, and I got something for you, and then
fully like looks super distressed and he was like, well, yeah, he
didn't even say that. I said. I mean, it's probably a good
bet that Mick Foley thought that they were gonna try to embarrass him in Matterson
Square Garden. Yeah, he's about to take time off. Well Austin is
guys, would you please come out here? And then rvd's music hits with
Pyro and here comes RVD, Spike, Bubba and Devon, Tommy Dreamer in
a WWE, the People and Hardy's Pants and Al Snow all come out with
RVD haring the hardcore title inside of a nice leaf like a little locate shatter
box. Yeah, yeah, very nice with a little red to backdrop on
it. Very nice. And Austin says, you know what this is,
right, the hardcore World Championship belt. That's not that's right? Right?
Okay it is? He says, well, right now, I'm having a
hardcore legend Sherry money for McK foley. And if you forgot what mcfolio has
done with his body for to b I gotta hell a piece of footage for
you. So roll that song, bitch now. And they show a fucking
mcfoli video package and I'm watching with deb and she's like, I swear every
time we watch a show with Folly in it, there's a tribute video for
him. There's been so many Folly tribute videos, which is I just got
a plus ten for me, brother. I fucking saw this fourteen times well
the past year. The originals. The original song was by Stained, and
it was so far away but they couldn't. That would have been awesome.
I would have kept watching that. Yeah, that song is so based.
It's been a while since I've heard Stained. Thank you. I'll be here
all night. They did an album or are doing an album this year.
Stained. Okay. Confessions of the Fallen. Sure it's very good. What
I just sounds very good. I wonder if Nick Foley has this hardcore title
shit still now Conrad got it right, Connor, same thing too. Uh.
And then here comes Vince Rickman with maybe one of the most legendary power
walkers of the Ring. I have seen crazy walk full Vince power walk here
like arms are going full of shit in his pants with the arms Yeah yeah,
feet out crazy. Oh wow. Well, Vince says, uh,
I got no quarrel with you to night, Austin. I want to say
something to McK foley the last time I was in your presence on my private
plane where you said you would never step foot in the w Be Ring again,
which I imagine was a shoot. I don't I've never probably uh yet
here night you stand, which from a personal standpoint makes me want to take
this trophy and blash you in the head with it, which they should have
did, but I guess they do it later and turn you into a pottle
of gelatine, a gelatin a bottles. I can't figure out what it just
say blood one businessman to another. I want to say to you what stone
Colds thinking. And I want to see what everyone it's Arena is thinking.
I want to say to you, for all the wonderful moments, you gave
us two words we all wanted to say tonight. Thank you. He extends
his hand out and Folly is like James said, very unsure of what to
super nervous. Yeah, very confused and he but he does shake his hand,
and Folly says, it's great to be here in New York City with
so many great performers. And also, yeah, fucking hell bitch. He
says, when I stepped in the ring, I thought some of the fans
might remember who I was, and I was hoping some of them would chant
my name, and then of course they chanted fucking Folly. And then he
says, now I know how Dorothy felt when she said there's no place like
home. I was like, all right, yeah, dude, fully even
talking like he like he goes over a lot of ship for some reason,
they really wanted to put over like the super Fly part. Folly's like,
when I saw a super Fly Jimmy snookuld kill somebody, I knew that I
wanted to join the WWF and do the exact same thing here in New York.
In New York City like a retirement speech, doesn't it Like maybe they
really didn't know when he was coming back, or at least they if it
was planned that they knew when he was coming back, because oh, by
the way, I didn't put it down because it was fucking like it was
so like unsure. In the Observer, they were talking about that they were
thinking of replacing Triple H versus Goldberg for the belt at SummerSlam with Triple H
versus Folly because it would do better box office. It would, but they
didn't do it. Obviously. I don't know what Folly does. What does
Fully do? After this? He comes back and fights Randy Orton, right,
come back at Backlash at Backlash two, Sure, okay, yeah,
then he does the match at WrestleMania right with Evolution Evolution saying yeah, yeah,
I guess it would be yeah wow, yeah. So that's when he
yeah, so he's gone for a fucking minute. Then yeah, he does
the book tour and then comes back state next year. I gotta sea book,
all right. He's always with the fucking books down, man, with
the fucking books. God damn man, man, I want you book a
show, buddy, he says. Fens with a few exceptions. I've loved
even working for you, and when my time comes again, I'll be I
hope that I'll be welcome back inside of w b Ring. I've got a
book coming out that I'm proud of, and I thought it'd be appropriate to
leave to go on this book tour if i'd quote a famous author or philosopher.
So I came up with Frosty the Snowman. Oh my gosh, he
said, who said an I quote? I'll say goodbye, but don't you
cry. I'm Frosty the snow Man. So we get back out here on
that Alice snowflow. You right now, you fucking asshole. Do you want
to do you want to hear what this book was? I just looked it
up. Is this the second book? This is? So he made one
in two thousand and three. So he made one in two thousand, two
thousand and one. He had he had a bunch of children's books. They
weren't all memoirs. D This is contemporary fiction. This is the craziest fucking
thing I've ever heard in my life. So this is Tai Tam Brown by
Mick Foley, author of Heaven Ice Day, came out two thousand and three.
So the book is about a period of time in the life of Andy
Brown the fifth and his father and Tai Tam Brown the fourth said, after
sixteen years of being tossed from foster home to foster and spending time in juvenile
attention for killing a teenager who tried to our word him, his father then
shows up to take him home. Andy was i worded by his foster father,
who was also a member of the KKK and physically abused to buy his
father. He puts up with cruel t treatment from adults and other students at
school. Every now and then in his life he cracks and enraged causes terrible
harm to his tormentors. He draws strength from the love he gets from Terry,
a beautiful girl in his grade at school. I think we should call
this See No Evil. Dude. What yeah, dude, that's a not
I thought it was a mcfoley book. Yeah, yeah, I assumed it
was like a biography. Yeah, you know, like, yeah, the
fall up to have a nice day or something, right, I guess that
makes more sense to what Randy was reading in the backstage. But he was
it was like fiction, it was, But they did not like they didn't
know what the book was. One of those signed version of the book.
The fuck yeah, like that, I would have read this. I wonder
if this did well number one New York bestseller. It was. Okay,
this book it got three point seven five out of four ratings on this good
rus website. Okay, thirteen ratings, so a might I guess it just
sounds crazy from the children's book writers. That is fucking crazy. There's even
more to it, like that was such like a very that was synopsis.
Yeah, yeah, wow, Yeah, that's nuts. Interesting cool. The
shouts out frosy, there's no man anyways. Yeah, what the fuck?
Well? RAW is brought to you by Charlie's Angels, Full Throttle Truth and
Nike Basketball dot Com. Oh wow, that sponsors are all the stars,
tough, tough deals in two thousand and three. H nothing nothing to crazy
here. Well, now it's time for the Shawn Michaels and Kevin Nash versus
Rick Flair and Randy Orton match. Nash and Michaels are here to do the
Diesel and Shawn entrance with the Pyro. That was pretty cool. They've got
a ton of fucking pyro too. By the way that much. One of
the camera's breaks during HPK's pyro on the stage, like and it breaks later.
Yeah, as long as I gotta fix this shit on. How did
he often wear the kneepads outside of the gear, Tony? It was weird.
I thought he had kneepads, like, I thought they were pads on
his gear. These were just black kneepads, but you never know. Usually
it was inside the gear. I thought, yeah, like pants, this
is the Deadlock plus ten match in the night, did you I'll come on,
come on, guys, come on, wait, not come on,
no way, I tell us send the shit out of this fucking match.
What about that? What about the early Evolution theme song here? Okay,
well I didn't skip the entrances. That's the only time I watched dam Yeah,
that was. That's in the games, that's in uh DR. That's
a that's an interesting one. Yeah, not the one I expected, I
think when I when I saw him on the show. Yeah, I do
like it though. They had Yeah, yeah, a lot of those songs
like I like the um like before they turned it into a real song,
like fucking Batiste. He still was exactly Yeah, that was they turned into
a real song. They put it on a fucking CD. Yeah that's true
and they sold probably, Yeah, they should have triple interesting the game instead.
I would like to hear that version. Well, Kevin Nash gets into
this match. They do some early Shine stuff. Kevin Nash gets a tag,
and it was funny for some reason for me because I don't see him
very often. He comes in through the second rope, not over the top,
which was very funny looking for probably because like a year, maybe less
than a year before this is when he blew his shit out by stepping over
the top rope in that he would have stopped doing that as his like get
in the ring. Every time Kevin asked like a big boot or did some
of his leg I was like, stop, just retire that move. Remember
when he came back and power bomb Punkin was gonna wrestle him. Yeah with
the he had the black hair and the black Yeah, he was gonna have
a he was gonna find a ladder match with Punkin. Yeah. I thought
you were dead. Yeah, dude, like I, we were robbed of
seeing that match. I feel like we deserved. That would have been awesome
that it would have been something we talked about at the very least. It
would definitely want to be in that second one there. Yeah, no favor
fucking hair, come on, Black Air's back. I mean, I don't
know how the politic it works in that one. I'll be honest with you.
It would have been the ladder you lose. It would have been a
legendary politic and that's what I'm saying. Yeah, it would have been great.
So Kevin nashkuts Tack comes with a second rope. Two things are gonna
happen in a Rick Flair match at this time. He's gonna chop you,
and he's gonna take that back body drop off the irishoop in the corner.
He took twice. I was like, oh fuck and shaw back to back.
They both they tagged in, tagged in, Bam, bam, fucking
irishoop in the corner, back body drop. I'm sure they ship for that
first half of this match. They're just kind of go damn way no way
city raw right here, right here. The commercial Big Sean Michael's House show
dive. Yeah, both of them, they're going nuts on commentary. Oh
my god, did you see this? Yeah? Alright, dumb, alright,
dumb, So come back in. Oh my god, that's cursed up
there. That's has that ever happened big enough like w W E chant for
anyone to hear like a dub all right, dub is fucked up. Man,
I'm running about it and I don't like it. So they I mean
the middle of his joint is so that's where I lost this era. Dude.
Holy yeah, I mean, if you built a fucking spoiser David to
ground up, you're looking at Randy. Yeah, this guy was. He
was so triple h was in his ear big time. I know, dude.
If Randy Orton was in the Natural Born Thrillers, he would have been
being shot fucking gainers off the top and shit, Like my god, it
would have been way different than the Natural Thrillers. Randy sounds so fucking zick.
That would have been crazy. That's why barks like fuck this triple I'm
trying to work. I'm trying to work right now, so yeah, come
on, yeah, back to back. Fuck, they're grabbing arms, fucking
I'm talking to my shoulder holds. Yeah, crazy sh'm locks. Oh he
did him with the punch, punch chopped down, always got the arm.
Oh, I mean shit, all right, let's go to Charlotte. Yeah,
hell yeah. Sean goes for Rick and Sean get into a little spat
here. That's pretty good back and forth rehearsal. Sean goes for a backslide
out of a rehearsal. Flair goes for a tag to Orton puts his in
and he's like nor nor Norton hits the tagh So I thought that was good
to get the backslide pin doesn't count. Orton comes in super clean way to
just kind of transfer this match over. Of course, Orton comes in and
immediately puts the chin lock on his ass or whatever. He instantly kick fucking
chi lock or whatever. Shold um. But then yeah, so we get
towards the end here, Kevin Nash going for the fucking jackknife power bomb,
like this is gonna I was like, damn, this is gonna be cool.
Rick Flair then hits the most insane looking fucked up like I haven't seen
one this fuck low blow, this fucked up since like old juice on Jeff
Jerry and it's like he couldn't find it where his goga balls were, Like
I never seen nothing like this. The ref is just staring at everything that's
happening right now. You can't get in there. He's like, I think
I hit him. Uh. He kept going till Nash fell over, and
then right anyways, Sean ends up hitting the superkick and they went and that
that was it. They cut the segment. I thought there was gonna be
some match something. I guess, well, they're not in the main.
They don't give a fuck. We're going now, it's time. Nor the
recap of last Monday on Raw, when Kane attacked Law Resistance with a chair,
so he costs himself an RVD the match via DQ because he killed everybody
with a chair and many many choke slams, which leads to Triple H,
Big Haired out, crazy Big Hair, button down White Shirts, trying to
convince Kane to join Evolution, but Stone Cold comes out and says, Kene,
you could take his offer, or you could take Stone Cold's offer to
face Triple H for the world title at MSG. And then uh Bischoff comes
out and says Kane, if you lose, you will unmask while the whole
world watches. Now Kane didn't agree, like why why great? Yeah that
was awesome, So like Bishof comes out says you lose that mask, or
you lose that match, you have to unmask. Yeah, he says,
all right, so what are you gonna choose. Austin doesn't fight for him
or anything. It's just like, okay, that's just the options you fucking
have, and that's what you got. Well, Kane googles both of them.
Let's go of triple H and lifts up Austin for a choke slam,
and then he puts Austin down and choke slams triple H to hell and the
crowd fucking pops huge. So Kane agreed to that. I don't know why,
though, Shit, I just joined Evolution. Yeah, what the fuck?
Like I'm taking the world title meant a lot to him. He wanted
to win the world title, yeah, I guess so much so that he
was willing to give up his mask that he had taken off of him five
months ago, and it crippled him emotionally and he ran away like a stinky
little baby. So I just want to make sure everybody understands. The poles
are in and fifty six percent of the fans on Derby dot Com have voted
that Kane will win the Woe Championship at night. Well that's his Johnny pole
My position. That wasn't even an option on mine. What the fuck?
I said one hundred and say he's a big game. Summer Cane is coming.
He's a big bitch and Summer Cane is coming. Wow. Yeah,
well he's a bitch now. But to Summer of Cane, it's for sure.
Summer of Kane is like like summer detention. So we go back to
the Kane house. As James puts it, you could probably describe this as
Kane's shadow boxing here, right, but s games, dude, he is
He is never shadow bugs in his life. He is punching the air.
That's what he's doing. Repeated upper cuts. He is spamming upper cuts.
It's like when I'm having a dream and fighting. This is me fighting.
You know I should work eventually. You just get like that. Yeah,
yeah, Will. It's like he saw the Undertaker do it once back stage,
and he keeps he keeps walking forward with the upper cuts and having to
walk himself back and then do it again. It's just like, dude,
oh my god, you got a cigarette broke. Yeah, he's nutstout,
bro crazy. He was just collecting data. Oh this piece of shit,
triplech you know you suck at this wrestling. Shit. Don't worry about this
match. Data, I'm gonna put my mask down. I'm not plan about
to go. I'm about to go today. So we got a pre tape
here. Uh well, I guess backstage, really, Nick Foley is signing
a book for Vince McMahon, of course, the same one that we just
walked him out fucked up up fiction. Fuck. I think he dropped on
the floor and didn't pick it back up. And the segment ended. Yeah,
you're right. So Orton and Flair are coming back from the match they
just lost, and Folly says, good match, guys, especially you Randy.
Oh fuck, he doesn't like that. Say that ship fuck you.
Rady had the worst match of everybody in there. Yeah, he was really
shit it up there, and then they started sucking fighting dude. They start
whooping his ass fully, then pulls out fucking mister Sako for some reason and
it fight bags the sock of Flair and then Orton bashes fully in the back
of the head with the hardcore titles shot bugs, damn it. Yeah,
rested piece bitch. Then he throws fully into some kind of fucking cage.
They start fighting again. Fully's getting better. Ah, No, I guess
not. He keeps getting the better of him. Then Orton bashes a bottle
over Fully's head. I said, holy shit, man, what's going on
here? They fight into the stairwell, and that's when I realized what this
was. I didn't know that this was what this was going to until here.
They fight into the stairwell. Orton fucking lines him up, and Punk
kicks him in the face and fully fucking Peter Griffin falls down the stair That's
awesome, though, fucking just rolls down. It lays there and Vince comes
back into the room and he says, Zaby, get some help. I
need a janitor. And he gives a big smile. A janitor out here,
and they all laugh and they leave Fully for dead. I loved how
halfheartedly he went in there and said that like he looked. He looked at
Randy and then looked at the man on the bottom of this staircase. Head.
Wow, we need some help, a j editor. So now it's
time for the Teddy Long five minute white boy Challenge. Shit, this is
what I was waiting for. Yeah, I mean, if there are any
white boys out there that think they can stop ugging bugging. Rodney Matt,
you're gonna ruin Theodore Along is not you feel me with thero Along and Ronnie
Mac leave Matti Square Garden. We're gonna have a smile on my face because
it's time for the five minute white boy challenging. And it not only in
the arena, James, any white boy on the planet taking stand up the
undefeated one, come on down. Oh my god, it's Goldberg. This
is this is the fucking funniest this this They could not have thought of a
better way to end this ever than this ship right here. This is tremendous,
dude, this is fucking amazing. Yeah. So Rodney Mack charges the
ramp here as Goldberg comes out, the pyro is going off in the entrance
way and Goldberg spears him through the pyro. It was awesome, dude,
It is awesome. Tony. He fights through it and he comes back out
getting speared. It's amazing. It's so good. Jr. On commentary says
that, oh my god, that's the white Boy challenge. Yeah. So
now they go back to the ring. So the raw clock is now on
the screen. Got five minutes on the clock for the White Boy Challenge,
and Goldberg hits the jack gammer and beats him in twenty six seconds. Dude,
it's it's the crowd is so hot too. This is Goldberg's first wrestling
appearance in Madison Square Garden ever, by the way, and this is what
he does. He wins the white Boy Challenge. That's awesome, dude.
Before Goldberg fucking loads him up for the jackhammer, he gets him a position,
looks at the hardcam. It says five minutes. My ass even fucking
dude, he even fucking better. He beats him. He's talking all this
shit. He I'm the one in the second rope, and he yells,
white boy, yeah boy, let's go. That was so crazy man.
Number one way you could stop the five minute White Boy Challenge is to hit
Goldberg's fucking and I heard I read in the Observer. I mean, I
obviously don't know what true was that Goldberg had. He actually had creative control,
which I didn't know. Um, so, like this stuff was his
idea. Oh well, this was fucking funny, as hellelievable. There's so
many like factors that played into this segment existing and like literally Goldberg's about done
here, you know what I mean? Like this is genuinely incredible that this
happened. Like there's so many like variables into this. This is like perfect.
And in this timeline we got Goldberg answering the five minute White Break Challenge
and the winning with JR. Commentary talking about the white Bread chal They show
a replay of the spear from like the uh behind shot like when Mark Henry's
entrance kind of was they showed like yeah, that like Goldberg spearing him out
of the piros like that is she ever? Man? So we got backstage
RVD comes up the cane. I just want to say, kick some ass.
That title was yours. I voted pretty good. You're joining evolution.
I voted for it pretty good. Hey what are you? What are you
thinking about? That's how you do the thinking thing earlier? How you do
that? How you dreaming? You think you're the thinker something? How do
I? How do I see that? Well? You know, damn was
the ECUG television chap. Dude, you got a good RVD. That's like
ECWR VD. It's really good. Talk back then that's true. Well,
he slaps Kane's chest and leaves and then Kane turns back to the fucking mirst
at all. What the fuck he's gonna reminisce about fucking choke slamming RVD later
at night doing We actually don't see it, but he actually pulls rob band
damn back and then choke slams, and we learned that later when he looks
back at times. Yeah, we actually learned things about Kaye's life that we
that's off camera because of Kane's flashbacks. That's awesome. What are you doing,
Kanes? Let me goelf In is crazy. He tilts his head slowly
fucking Jason and Michael Myers style, and then he fucking he doesn't punch it.
He like backhands it. I don't know how to describe how ye,
it's very strange. It's sting punch style. He hits his mirror and it
breaks, and then he leaves, and then more of it breaks like as
it stares at the mirror, and then he has seven years of bad luck,
which is actually true. Shout out to the camera guy who has a
vision and saw that the ship broke like that and then zoomed in on it
breaking and then kept the shot and zoomed in close and then it broke some
more. Yeah, that's a skill by the last way, that's why everybody
understand you know, yeah you are, you are like a skillful camera operator.
So shout out you don't have a job. Yeah, if you don't
want it, you can go back. Yeah, come on through. So
WrestleMania recall everybody you know favorite moments WrestleMania eighteen. Yeah, that's what we
pay Triple ags and Stephanie in the ring and triple Ags caves, Stephanie the
pedigree. All right, that's all eighteen nineteen years of WrestleMania. That's that's
all we got to show. I mean, that's all I remember from Wresselmann
eighteen. That's it was all. Well, let me tell you something to
show, Judy pedigree, Stephanie in a super baby face moment, and then
he's a healing because she is, as the crowd likes to put it,
a slut. We don't always has. We don't like slut anytimes she walks
in the room. Slut. So yeah, really, which is now it's
time for the main eventpleh versus Kane. If Kane wins versus Time, Yeah,
he wins the world heavyweight title. If Kane loses. He has to
reveal his identity to everybody. You know what what you know? Like he
wanted to join the evolution. Why wouldn't the stimulation be he joins evolution because
I wasn't enough for wanted him to. You had one chance to join Evolution
of the fans vote Evolution, Evolution passed you by. That's as well.
Speaking of mysteries, Kane comes out here and his fucking hair looks different.
It's weird, it's strange. No, it looks great. It looks like
blue galls. Yeah, the hair looks so good it's almost not real.
It also good. It looks it. I mean, I just saw Kane
in the less segment. Worry about that doesn't look No, it doesn't look
all right, I won't, I won't. Well, what I what I
am worried about is blue triple ch the fue blue trunks and boots. Yeah,
Batista got a ton of heat for this was just fine, all right?
So we start the match off here, triple ching Kane. This is
you know, I gotta give it to him here. I mean, this
is every bit of a triple h pay per view match on Raw. On
the ending fucking sequence, is like the crowd is about to blow the roof
off of this place, and it's such a Triple H match. Yeah,
yeah, for sure. I Mean the way that they paced this was Triple
AI is gonna do his ship and Kane at the end, when they're finally
ready for it, we'll go into it and then we'll cut you off again.
And Triple H had that formula and he would stick to that formula and
it worked, and it the crowd was ready for it all the time.
It worked. Man Brains came with a chair at one point, By the
way, but this is not no DQ, but I think the ref was
distracted by Flair. Flair had reft. Yeah, so Organ's not out here.
Flare's out here though, correct, Um, because you know Organ's probably
somebody should probably call the police on him. He just knocked the man number
one best selling author. He just murdered. So yeah, they do all
this shit, we get towards the end where that's the ends where all the
action happens here, Um, Triple A spends the whole match doing Irish whips
and then moves from Irish literally you're right, yeah, every Irish whip guy,
isn't he dude, every single wow that Triple As doesn't imatch. If
he has a spot, it's from a fucking Irish ship. All Oh my
god, I don't know if that's a knee surgery thing or quad surgery.
I'm sorry, I don't know what that happened after that or what the case
may be, because like he definitely changed up his style a lot. But
yeah, Triple h everything from Irish riop unbelievable, dude. I've watched so
many Tripleache matches and I don't know if I've ever caught that. You'll never
be able to unsee it now, all the Irish whips. Like I said,
he has a style, and he fucking did it, you know That's
what. So ref bump here towards the end, Kane goes for the Kane
clothes line. He hits it, but Triple Ache slightly bumps into Hebner,
and then Triplache feeds up for a big boot but ducks and then came big
Boots Hebner to take him out, and Hebner is looking at the lights for
twenty minutes, So ref bump here Flare tries to use the belt on Kane,
but Kane stops him Yes, Um. Kane then hits triple H with
the belt. What a shot, all what a shot that was? People
did a huge Jr Does so another ref slides in after Earl Hebner doesn't answer
the count. Kane has a pin for more than three, but another ref
comes down the ramp. It slides in, but it's a two count.
Well Kane doesn't like that so much. He throws the ref out of the
ring. Yeah he wants he wants the original ref to count on the whole
referee. He has fucking out like he has out. Man, it's crazy.
Um triple ah. Then low blows Kane then pedigree. That's it,
but it's a two two point. The crowd fucking loses it. Jr's flipping
out. Kane lives your big red machine. He did it so huge,
Yeah, it's awesome. Kane then choke slams ric Flair, Triple H loads
up the second pedigree. So Kane slingshots Triple H into Flair, Flare each
shit on this man, each ship and then Flare flops the drives say is
crazy? Um so Kane? I mean the crowd at this point is going
ballistic like this is pretty MSG is ready to see a title change. I
don't think anyone, you know, we talked about a little earlier, but
I don't think one anyone wanted to see the Cane Cane unmasking. No one
really wanted to see the mask if I was just out of curiosity, you
know what I mean, But no one. It's just like you know,
you always want to see who's under the fucking hood, But like no one.
The mask is cool as hell. Man. He was unique. And
I think Jarr at this point was going, oh can you feel it?
Yeah, the new champ was coming. He's losing his mind. Jr.
Is making every dollar here. Yeah, so he definitely. The crowd definitely
wasn't other than like morbid curiosity, didn't really want Cane to unmask, and
they fucking wanted Triple as L's belt so that guy. Yeah man, And
it felt like they'd been kind of building Cane up for a minute to this
shot and they're like, Okay, this is where we put him into the
main here. Yes, um but you know evolution any focus, but y'all
y're in for a ride nothing, Yeah, we're not you it's even we
ain't got there yet. Um, So Kane's loading up this choke slam.
He gets triple h up for the choke slam in the background, three shroud.
Yeah, it's perfect. So it's they still have Kane and trip.
Late in the shot, Orton runs, jumps over the barricade, rolls in
the ring, low blows Kane fucking Rko al RKO style. Legit perfect.
It's like seamless, like Kane has him loaded up in the air with his
choke slam, and like in a blink of an eye, Orton is jumped
the barricade in the ring. Low blow, dude, a ton of a
ton of what's the word I want to use here? Try not respect?
Yeah, trust is definitely the word. I want to use a ton of
trust to get him up and expect Orton to be there because the timing on
that is fucked up, like because you know, he could have tripped on
his shoelace and fucking missed it by his second Kane would have had to load
him up forever. Those those sort of mistimings happened so often and rests horrifying.
But I guess when it's like the main event with like your top five
six guys, they can't get this spot right. Then fucking what are we
doing? Yeah, the trust levels had to be insane here. So Orton
comes in, Yeah, low blow fucking RKO, beautiful, old school style.
Triple H then gets him up fucking pedigree one, two, three,
great fucking finish. Yeah man, I mean they had that down to a
science for sure. They had them people believing there was no fucking chance.
They were so fired up that they completely forgot Orton was even like a possibility.
Yeah, which is crazy, right, Yeah, man, I mean
we've seen him all night, Yeah, him all night. He fucking just
killed mcfoley. Flair was enough. Flair was enough to fucking keep him distracted.
They were like, oh Flaire's out, Triple fucking nobody left, Kane's
gonna kill him. Oh fuck. So yeah, Triple H gets to win,
and Eric Bischoff comes out as Triple H is celebrating and fucking immediately dude,
yeah, right away, we gotta go. Uh. He's in a
shirt he looks like he got ran over. Its crazy brown shirt with stripe
on it. It does tire marks. I saw that from death says Yeah,
you know, Kane, you gave your word, Now take that mask
off. Wait, hold on a minute what did you say. You gave
your word. Gave your word. Never take a Kaid's word. You're right,
this fucking word he's ever said something. Just not do it? No
I lied? Okay, well I'll kill you. But before I take this
mask off, how about that fuck? You may want to put the kids
to bed. JR. Is uh trying to make it sound like this is
going to be the most horrific thing ever. He is extremely ugly. This
guy is well, I will find out. I'll tune in another episode of
Deadlock. So Kane goes to take the mask off. He's reaching down.
He grabs the bottom of his mask, and then Evolution starts whooping his ass.
They hit with the title and eat the shit out of him, stop
him out. I was like, okay, that's interesting. Well, I
mean they could have kept a mask on it, you know, like he
didn't take the mask off, or they could have just took it off of
him. I guess right, Oh, you're right, Yeah, I guess
that's what they said. It was to bring out Rob van Dam who comes
out to make the save Kane. Harvedy bump them all around, Kane,
choke slams orton Rviady hits a gnarly five star and then Kane's fired up.
He goes, they hit the Pyro, but then he stops because he starts
having a dream. He stares out into the abyss and starts having a dream
about choke slamming RVD and how it's come back. So RVD is on the
floor, sitting in the ring, sorry, sitting in the ring, legs
spread the whole time watching Kane go to take his mask off, and Kane's
frustrating. He doesn't want to do it, but he's got to do it,
and he turns his back to the hardcam. He starts to peel the
mask off, and with the mask comes a majority of his hair. Most
of his hair comes out except except a little bit, and Kane turns around.
God, he's the Three Stones and his friends dirty as a shower.
God comes here. It's oh my God. Cane in his fucking dirty ass
face and clown hair, fucking choke slams RVDA. Hell then hits the Pyro
and goes, there's so so much that needs the unbacked to your man.
Man, No, you're right, you're right, now, you're right,
Jr. Says, is this guy even a human? Fucking eliot, No,
no filters, no music, It's Kane turning around. But the fucked
up, fucking hair cut, dirty fucking face. This is a white boy
coming out of super cuts. This is crazy, man. He got the
cutting fade to dark, came out looking like, left the enhancements on his
fucking face in the back and said, look a good about Wow. Okay,
so many questions I have here. Number one can't Yeah, Kitty,
I agree, dude, Kane had his fucking hair earlier. That was his
fucking hair. They shaved it before this match. Yeah, well, don't
you know he's been he's emotionally distraught, so he shaved his hair. Is
that what they say? No, that's just okay, deduction. I guess
why couldn't he just have his hair. It wasn't a lot like we had
to like, hell, he cut it mostly distressed. I think it was
pouring it out. I think, like if you like, I guess in
the so, of course he had his mask with hair ready, damn.
And also, am I supposed to believe he never ever ever takes this mask
off? That he just never ever does because okay, because the next week
his face is clean and he's just bald, So why couldn't this have been
what he had the whole time? Because they said after that segment, I'm
so fucking sorry, I'm sorry that was I sorry, damn sorry. My
dad used to run here. I just wanted to be something big dude.
Yeah, man on his face. Yeah. I wonder, like I would
love to hear like the actual thought into this, Like what were you,
like, what was your idea of what this was compared to what actually happened
here? I think Vince was the one I thought it was time, right,
not Kane. I'm sure. Well King didn't want to wrestle on the
mask anymore just because he was sucking sick. Was fucking not easy, especially
the kind of mask he was wearing. He wasn't wearing like the red.
Hey do you want to make a living? Yeah, you want to like
keep the most sounds are probably nuts, dude. You know you're just gonna
have to do that. Then Tyder looks back on it interestingly. I mean,
like I said, this is definitely a moment in time that people will
remember if you were around forever. I'm staring at it in a mirror moment,
thing about it right now. This it's crazy um, but when you
watch it back, the only thing that you can think in your head really
when you watch it back, is like, what the fuck were they thinking?
Because the crowd even react no, because they're like, that's stun silence,
They're stunnely silenced. Gosh, that's an ugly bash. Or it's just
even a human. He turns around with a fucking goatee. It's just even
a human to everyone. Of the pot on the reddit was saying about me
when I ship. But yeah, so this is a legendary one of one
of four the moment in time in Madison Square Garden. This is definitely probably
the one that most people remember, or you know, let me say even
better than that, it's probably the one that defied Kane's entire career. You're
right, it was like it was. It was definitely the moment that did
it's either his debut or this right. That definitely not his debut. It's
no, it is this right what you don't think his debut? No,
I think other than that's got to be Kine. Yeah, that's it,
that's what that's But no one like remembers like no, I don't think anyone
remembers like most of that, like they're ripping the door off and the Sean
shit and all that. I think most I think most if you asked anybody
nowadays, like from this generation and blah blah blah, Yeah this kid.
Kids weren't born when that happened, you know what I mean, don't.
I think they do show it in the same vein though, like they showed
it just as much like here's here's King debuting and then fast forward to here's
what he took his mask off. So they're probably two moments you're right,
And the one in front of match was glove guy caught off fire. Oh
that's right. Yeah, I think the Undertaker set Stephanie's Teddy Bear on fire
on that one too, cried um. But yeah, I definitely think like
this is I guess you could put one of two defining moments. Sure,
yea in his career here. I guess it's easier to say this is because
your debut being a defining moment like that probably doesn't sound as good. Like
the only time one he cared was what he just showed up. Yeah,
I think it's because he spent the next how long did I guess he had
at least a decade right of more five years or like I mean he spent
like ten years after the unmasking. Oh yeah, working mass so like yeah,
yeah, you know that kind of place. Also, like right before
he got his mast, like there was a lot of shitter Kane stuff before
his mask came off, where like Canaanites and all that, talking like a
regular person and it was just not good. And he had big man syndrome
where he was a big guy, so they had to dream him like a
bitch and then make him a monster again. And then he had like I
feel like he had to take the mask off just for the character change.
Otherwise He's like, I couldn't after the mask got taken off. I just
I'm sorry, man, just count, I couldn't get into it. Yeah
that's what everyone in the back said too. He immediately fucking like, oh
wow, whoops, decision there. He had the cool, cool summer of
his stuff with Shane and stuff, insane anger, and the summer of can
He definitely had two months. He had the moments that we talked about on
the podcast. He definitely killed Shane like one hundred times. Those are all
in like two months, right, the WB summer of Kane, I will
never forget. Don't put again. Sorry, Tony, I don't want to
take that away from you. Right, there's like three Shane matches they all
had like Metallica and like and then on it and then he when he had
all he was in the Freak Battle Reality ZW Freak Monster Match. Yeah.
To me, like Kane, Like when I think about Cane in my head
is like fucking late nineties, like ninety eight, ninety nine, huge,
fucking massive, roided out, crazy, off the top road line, fucking
bruiser right, Like that's the stuff I think about it. And even if
you want to get titled yeah, two thousand and two thousand and one,
like fucking fucking around Rhino, you know what I mean, like them having
bruiser matches and shit, like I think of that, like I don't think
of this like once it got down to like mask off fucking everything after that,
like Kane sort of fell off for me a little bit. Well,
I agree, so, like I like we were saying at the top,
like going back and watching this felt so different because I was like I have
fond memories of this. I was like, Wow, that was the cool
shit ever. And then like Tony said Summer of Kane, which I don't
know. Kids, they like they like had the idea of like doing the
shit they did like Paul you do with Saboo when he first came in,
like making him a fucking hannibal lector yeah right where they came in. He's
unhinged and all that ship. Dude, you change when he came out with
the change in the full theme song, come on, they were probably like,
we're no want to do this every week. That's well, that's where
I'm getting. Is that money? He's never positioned at the top, like
after that, is he well, there's only one guy at the top of
that time he embarrassed King, took his mask and made a fucking dead cheerleader.
You know. Yeah listen, I wanted like going back and looking at
the Tony, I was like, damn, that was cool, but I
don't know how cool. Like it was cool for a minute, but then
it's like they did not care. After I saw a mass cane on the
card, I knew exactly what I was getting, and I knew I won't
exactly looking forward to it. I'll tell you that. Yeah, it's like,
uh, well, I don't know what you expect, like what you
expect and what you get is not like this. I don't know how to
even like, like you said, Tony, they did do right by them
at first. The stuff he was doing for a bit after this was fucking
sweet. Then I'm come out in the chains. I was cool as fuck.
He was killing people, set Jaire on fire, tombstone Linda was awesome.
Pro Back is the show next week or whatever on RAW I believe,
or pretty soon after this when they showed the mask come up. But did
they have like a filter face and distorting? Yeah, holy shit. They
definitely okay, So here they definitely wanted that. They definitely could have got
that, but they would have to put Kane in a prosthetic every day.
Every day that they wanted to use Kane, he'd have to be in the
same exact prosthetic. So I'm sure the thought process was like Vince was like,
oh, we could do this. It's fucking bubbly face in there,
and they're like, hey man, we have to do this for like eight
hours every fucking day that he wrestles. And then Vince is like, fuck
that, okay, well put the shit on it. So I'm imagining,
uh, like Kane would look like this right, and this picture I'm thinking
about show you this is what they wanted. Snitzky. Yeah, that you're
probably right. They should just sitsky. So okay, so what he does
the stuff with JR? You know, he does the Shane feud, Then
he helps Vince beat Undertaker in a buried a live match, and then that's
when we go into Kane Taker wrestle Man twenty, which is a bad match.
So he's very quickly turned right back into a pussy and then he does
the lead of stuff that's WW with big dudes period. It feels he's yeah,
he's immediately JABRONI like he yeah, well why when they well they you
know, they do the JR. Interview and he's, um, I'm sure
your face is normal to me, week, but you were dirty? Well
no, they I mean they pivot to it was he was never really fucked
up. It was plog psychological. So that was the idea. It was
like, ok, it's also fucking stupid, we blew this. So what
we're gonna do is we're gonna move it to he was never actually fucked up.
He just did this himself too, because his brain was telling him that
he did that. Then he was he was just like, you know,
trying to be a father or whatever. Yeah, he just wanted to love
Lida. Okay, cool. I guess he's not like fucked up anymore.
He's just bald and Dane. Yeah. Well, I mean, like I
said, everything past, that's kind of like, you know, damn because
Kane one of the most recognizable wrestling characters of all time with the mascot.
Yeah, what an unbelieved like because that could have horrifically fucked up, Like
we're bringing an Undertaker's brother. That is a lot to fucking try to live
up the shore then, you know what I mean, that could have failed
immediately. He could have been a bitch. They could have just like he
could have sucked you know what I mean, Like it had to be him,
and he nailed it, and they fucking nailed it with him for a
long time. Yeah, and then like this happens. They were struggling to
figure out how this guy fits. I mean, they changed the Undertaker in
that era too, you know what I mean, because he comes back against
Kane as the dead Man. He was gone for a while too. They
were just struggling to figure out anything there, you know what I mean,
there's like, damn what you know, it's SmackDown. They're just like we're
just gonna let him wrestle, and like it was working extremely well, but
on raw they couldn't just be a wrestling show. A smack that was just
the wrestling show, so they're like we have to come up with fucking crazy
angles and like we have to change a bunch of shit and like and like
this was one of those things where it was just like Kane doesn't want to
wear the mask anymore, so fuck it, let's do it. Let's go
with it. And sadly they probably maybe should have put some more time into
his face. Yeah, or that too. I mean I feel like I
just the reveal in general. I think if I think if they would have
done the reveal right, and then they could have just been like Kane is
gonna take a few weeks off and he comes back and his face is fine,
Like if you didn't want to do it all the time, you know
what I mean, Like, Okay, let's take the mask off. He's
really extremely fucked up. He comes back for a few weeks in a row,
he's extremely super fucked up. Undertaker fucking comes out, he takes a
few weeks off, he comes back, and he comes back as whatever he
could, you know, regular face, Sure, you know whatever. So
because I understand you don't want to wrestle on the prospect all the time,
but like you know, you probably need to sell it like that. Yeah,
you're right, but I will tell you this much. I am fucking
so happy that they did it this way because this is one of the funniest
shits I've ever seen in all life, and the ship will live with me
for the rest of my fucking life. I would never forget Kane fucking turning
his ass around and looking at the camera like that. I would never get
that, with the hair and the soot on his face and the fucking regular
man goatee. I'll never forget this as long as I live. So you
know what, fuck it, I'm glad you guys did not do that because
I probably would have forgot it. So I thank you right this instead,
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