From Gimli to Sallah LIVE in Orlando | John Rhys-Davies Live at MegaCon (Indiana Jones, Lord of the Rings)
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This week on Toon’d In!, Jim Cummings welcomes legendary actor John Rhys-Davies for a special episode recorded live at MegaCon Orlando! Known for his commanding screen presence and unforgettable performances across film and television, Rhys-Davies has built an iconic career spanning blockbuster adventures, fantasy epics, and beloved fan-favorite franchises. He is widely recognized for portraying Gimli in The Lord of the Rings trilogy and Sallah in the Indiana Jones films, along with an extensive body of work across television, voice acting, and historical dramas.
In this engaging and wide-ranging episode—captured in front of a live convention audience—John shares stories from his decades in the entertainment industry, reflecting on the craft of acting in large-scale productions, collaborating with ensemble casts, and bringing larger-than-life characters to the screen. He discusses the physical and emotional demands of fantasy filmmaking, the experience of working on globally influential franchises, and the evolution of storytelling across genres from adventure to epic fantasy.
Jim and John also dive into the world of fandom and conventions, exploring the enduring legacy of classic films, the connection between performers and audiences, and how iconic roles continue to resonate across generations. Along the way, John offers insights into character preparation, on-set experiences, and the unique challenges of balancing theatrical performance with cinematic storytelling.
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This week on Toon’d In!, Jim Cummings welcomes legendary actor John Rhys-Davies for a special episode recorded live at MegaCon Orlando! Known for his commanding screen presence and unforgettable performances across film and television, Rhys-Davies has built an iconic career spanning blockbuster adventures, fantasy epics, and beloved fan-favorite franchises. He is widely recognized for portraying Gimli in The Lord of the Rings trilogy and Sallah in the Indiana Jones films, along with an extensive body of work across television, voice acting, and historical dramas.
In this engaging and wide-ranging episode—captured in front of a live convention audience—John shares stories from his decades in the entertainment industry, reflecting on the craft of acting in large-scale productions, collaborating with ensemble casts, and bringing larger-than-life characters to the screen. He discusses the physical and emotional demands of fantasy filmmaking, the experience of working on globally influential franchises, and the evolution of storytelling across genres from adventure to epic fantasy.
Jim and John also dive into the world of fandom and conventions, exploring the enduring legacy of classic films, the connection between performers and audiences, and how iconic roles continue to resonate across generations. Along the way, John offers insights into character preparation, on-set experiences, and the unique challenges of balancing theatrical performance with cinematic storytelling.
🎙️✨ Ever wondered what goes into creating legendary fantasy characters, working on blockbuster adventure films, or sustaining a career across decades of iconic roles? Settle in and get Toon’d In! for a fascinating behind-the-scenes conversation about film history, performance craft, fandom culture, and unforgettable characters—recorded live at MegaCon Orlando.
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2026-03-28
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<v Speaker 1>If you're a fan of everything we do here at <v Speaker 1>tuned In with Jim Cummings, you could support the show <v Speaker 1>on Patreon for bonus exclusive podcasts, as well as early <v Speaker 1>in ad free access to the show itself, prize drawings, <v Speaker 1>and more. You'll feel the difference, so go ahead and <v Speaker 1>join the tuned In family today at patreon dot com <v Speaker 1>slash Jim Cummings Podcast. <v Speaker 2>Do it now? <v Speaker 3>How you doing out there? It's me Tigger, I am. <v Speaker 1>Doc Wayne Duck. <v Speaker 2>It's me Bunkers. <v Speaker 1>Keep bobcat all right, y'all? <v Speaker 2>Is it rate your favorite firefly you desire? Hold old <v Speaker 2>knock Gud. <v Speaker 1>My name is Jim Cummings and welcome to tuned In. <v Speaker 4>How's everybody doing today? Welcome to another live recording of <v Speaker 4>Tuned In with Jim Cummings. We have a very special <v Speaker 4>guest for you today. Are you guys excited? I love <v Speaker 4>to hear it, love to hear it. Well, first, let <v Speaker 4>me introduce our guest. You know him well, very talented actor, <v Speaker 4>numerous numerous credits, Lord of the Rings, Indiana Jones, among <v Speaker 4>many many more, none other than John Rhe's Davies. <v Speaker 2>Where keep it going? <v Speaker 3>We end up. <v Speaker 2>Well e'standably kind of you to to to get up <v Speaker 2>this early in the morning and come on to that. <v Speaker 2>We've just we've only been traveling for two and a <v Speaker 2>half days on a golf cart to get here. I <v Speaker 2>don't know what happened to your travels, but mine will <v Speaker 2>hell so strended. Is anyone going to come and sit? <v Speaker 4>Yeh, they sure are. <v Speaker 2>Come on. <v Speaker 4>Who let me introduce you to our legendary host, Winnie <v Speaker 4>the Pooh and take her to mister Jim Comics. <v Speaker 3>Yes you, sir? <v Speaker 2>Is this me? <v Speaker 4>That's you? <v Speaker 3>Alrighty, all right? <v Speaker 2>Eternally grateful to Winnie the Pooh because I'm a member <v Speaker 2>of the Garrick Club and Milne who wrote Winnie the Pooh, <v Speaker 2>I was a member of the Garret Club many years ago, <v Speaker 2>and he left the rights to Winnie the Pooh to <v Speaker 2>the Garrick Club and they sold it to Disney I <v Speaker 2>think about nineteen eighty odd for about twenty million dollars <v Speaker 2>and Thomas put it to good use. <v Speaker 1>Wow, I only got half that. <v Speaker 3>That's terrible? Is this on me? <v Speaker 1>Oh? Okay, because we don't have monitors, I can't tell <v Speaker 1>And yeah, turn it out there you go, Yeah, turn <v Speaker 1>it up what he said. First of all, thank you <v Speaker 1>so very very much for being here. <v Speaker 5>Thank you for having fantastic and I'm glad they didn't <v Speaker 5>record our conversation in the car door, didn't you? <v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, never mind. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, well well, well, well where were we? <v Speaker 2>Gosh, look at the look at the time. <v Speaker 3>Yeah. <v Speaker 4>Now, a lot of a lot of people in this <v Speaker 4>room probably know each of your credits individually. Maybe maybe <v Speaker 4>you're thinking to yourselves, what is this crossover? I'll have <v Speaker 4>you know that you guys have worked on quite a <v Speaker 4>few projects together. Are you aware of that? No, it's <v Speaker 4>been a while, so I felt that might be the answer. <v Speaker 4>There was a little project called The Jungle Book two <v Speaker 4>where Jim you played don't well. <v Speaker 3>I'm the King of the swing as well. Don't worry, <v Speaker 3>I won't sing the whole song. Somebody has to do it. <v Speaker 2>Who did you play? <v Speaker 5>Uh? <v Speaker 1>Well, I was in not in the original movie because <v Speaker 1>you know I was ten, but I was King Louis. <v Speaker 1>I was King Louie in uh in the series. And <v Speaker 1>there was a series Tailspin in which they were. <v Speaker 4>As well as car in the Jungle Book two choicesting me. <v Speaker 1>I see I inherited all of God bless him, rest <v Speaker 1>the soul, Sterling ha, thank you. Bye, there's this Guy's <v Speaker 1>got it all of Sterling Holloway's roles, Car and Winnie <v Speaker 1>the Pooh. I think I think that was for him, right, <v Speaker 1>and uh and Chesure Cat, who was a pretty tricky guy. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, so anybody's it was quite tricky. <v Speaker 1>Well, he vanishes and and and then lies to you <v Speaker 1>and then you know he's a cat, so you know <v Speaker 1>you can you can fill in that blank. And he <v Speaker 1>doesn't have a kitty litter. So anyway, and. <v Speaker 4>John, you played Ron John's father. Do you remember that role? No? <v Speaker 3>No, you were great. <v Speaker 4>It was a while ago, so we'll give you a pass. <v Speaker 4>How many years was that all of them? I want <v Speaker 4>to say it was ninety four. I believe I should <v Speaker 4>somebody correct me if I'm wrong on that. <v Speaker 2>Should be able to remember that two thousand. <v Speaker 4>And three, thank you. I was only nine years off. <v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah the right time. <v Speaker 2>I was working with a good dad at that time, <v Speaker 2>wasn't I probably that could be. That's right, absolutely, Well, <v Speaker 2>now we've established that he knows and I don't. Why <v Speaker 2>didn't you guys just carry on? <v Speaker 4>Okay, I'll give another one to you, another another project <v Speaker 4>that you were both in Booty you too, Winnie the Pooh, Yes, <v Speaker 4>I remember when you were the narrator. Do you remember <v Speaker 4>that one? <v Speaker 2>Yes, of course. <v Speaker 3>You were the word sayer. Ah, yes, yes, you're very <v Speaker 3>very good. <v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I can't imagine you being in anything <v Speaker 1>on camera or off camera with with this incredibly Shakespearean <v Speaker 1>actor stentorian voice. <v Speaker 2>And come on, that's not being five bucks, I owe you. <v Speaker 3>That's right. <v Speaker 1>I mean it's You've got a hell of a signature <v Speaker 1>and a lot of British actors. Is that come from <v Speaker 1>theater projecting? Because I would imagine you. Well, it does help. <v Speaker 1>The theatre does help. Basically, it helps a young actor <v Speaker 1>because he can make his mistakes in front of three <v Speaker 1>hundred people rather than thirty million people. <v Speaker 4>Well that's true, like we have here. <v Speaker 2>Yes, but but my generation listened to radio a lot, <v Speaker 2>and we heard lots of funny voices and tried to <v Speaker 2>copy them. We had the Goon Show and we had <v Speaker 2>brilliantly funny There was a god he would be world <v Speaker 2>famous and I probably nobody here has heard of him. <v Speaker 2>Peter Sellers and Hardie Sekum and they all did funny <v Speaker 2>voices and came up with with wonderful phrases that we <v Speaker 2>all giggled at. And I don't know why we came <v Speaker 2>up to this place. It had steaming French gravel. Somehow, <v Speaker 2>it's sort of it was strangely erotic to hear that <v Speaker 2>steaming French gravel. <v Speaker 3>Well, two out of three steaming French gravel. <v Speaker 2>But that's where we that's where we copied all our <v Speaker 2>voices from and and and try to make our own <v Speaker 2>little invitations. <v Speaker 1>Did you always know when? When did you know that <v Speaker 1>this is what you were going to do? <v Speaker 3>Well? <v Speaker 2>I saw the very first play I saw where I <v Speaker 2>was eleven years old and knew at a boarding school <v Speaker 2>that I hated, and the school had a great dramatic <v Speaker 2>tradition and it always put on classical plays. And the <v Speaker 2>first play I ever saw at the age of eleven <v Speaker 2>was Edipus Rex right, that's doctor Seuss right, And I <v Speaker 2>at that moment when Edipus comes on to the stage <v Speaker 2>in the beginning of the second act and he has <v Speaker 2>put his eyes out and they're hanging down his face <v Speaker 2>like that, I knew at that moment, that moment that <v Speaker 2>there was some special effect that great tragedy has. And <v Speaker 2>I went to the school library, where I wasn't allowed <v Speaker 2>to go because I was not a fourth former, And <v Speaker 2>I knew exactly what I was looking for because I'd <v Speaker 2>heard about it, and I found Aristotle on tragedy. Tragedy, then, <v Speaker 2>is the imitation of an action, complete and of some importance, <v Speaker 2>acted not narrated, in language enhanced by distinct and varying means, <v Speaker 2>and through pity and fear affecting its purgation of these emotions. <v Speaker 2>I learned it then, I know it now I don't <v Speaker 2>understand it. <v Speaker 1>Still, Wow, well said I couldn't repeat a word of it, <v Speaker 1>but it was. <v Speaker 2>Oh, my goodness, Well I know that. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's amazing. <v Speaker 2>But you know, when you're young, when you're up until <v Speaker 2>the age of twenty, you can remember everything. It's a <v Speaker 2>lot harder the older you get. But there are certain <v Speaker 2>There are certain numbers that you can remember because you <v Speaker 2>find them. For instance, I happen to know my global <v Speaker 2>entry number because because it is the opening of the <v Speaker 2>theater Royal Haymarket in sixteen sixty three, with a number <v Speaker 2>in between, which I shan't tell you because otherwise you'll <v Speaker 2>all be using my global entry. I'll be at be <v Speaker 2>banned from the world, and then and then the birthday <v Speaker 2>of Christopher Columbus. So if you can get sixteen sixty <v Speaker 2>three and fourteen fifty one together, you can you can <v Speaker 2>remember that one other I've got another one that is <v Speaker 2>the is the year that the Black Prince married the <v Speaker 2>fair Maid of Kent? Or is that yes? I think <v Speaker 2>that's I think that's my manager's post code with a <v Speaker 2>nine in front of it. But the Elizabethans, for instance, <v Speaker 2>would only see a book perhaps once in their lives. <v Speaker 2>That they there weren't that many books around, and they <v Speaker 2>belonged to rather wealthy people. But if you were keen <v Speaker 2>to read a book and you got lent it, then <v Speaker 2>you really had to read it, look after it, and <v Speaker 2>learn from it. And what they did they envisioned a <v Speaker 2>big house, and to each room they would ascribe a <v Speaker 2>subject like philosophy or history or something like that, and <v Speaker 2>then they would put a cabinet in it and put <v Speaker 2>an idea in one drawer of that cabinet, or hang <v Speaker 2>a picture on the wall, which and the art of <v Speaker 2>memory that they created by visualization like that really is <v Speaker 2>a very still a very useful way of memorizing things. <v Speaker 2>I'm sorry that was really boring. That that was really good. <v Speaker 2>That was really good. <v Speaker 1>You know, I always I was in a million plays <v Speaker 1>as a kid, you know, and I ended up doing <v Speaker 1>because you don't have to memorize you can just read it. <v Speaker 3>And yeah, who said that. Yes, you're right, thank you, <v Speaker 3>wise guy. Yeah, but you know it's true. <v Speaker 1>And uh, I'm sure you don't have a preference, but <v Speaker 1>if you do, it's it's got to be, is it stage? <v Speaker 3>Is that your first love? It's probably what brought you <v Speaker 3>the favorite. <v Speaker 2>Yes, you think by the time I'd left school, i'd <v Speaker 2>played Othello. I wouldn't be allowed to now I played Othello. <v Speaker 2>I've been played Troytis in I played I played Ulysseson, <v Speaker 2>Troytis and Cressida. I played volpone h And I think <v Speaker 2>I've done one or two other things as well. But <v Speaker 2>by the time you're seventeen and you've done that, you <v Speaker 2>begin to have some idea about books, I would think, <v Speaker 2>and it's it's it's useful. Shakespeare is still the most <v Speaker 2>vital talent of all time. He is he is He's <v Speaker 2>just extraordinary, the way he can string those simple phrases together. <v Speaker 2>Never mind the great speeches. We all know the great speeches. <v Speaker 2>Oh by the way, I have to say that I <v Speaker 2>played the Scotsman. We try not to call it the <v Speaker 2>Scottish play. We do not refer to by its name. <v Speaker 2>But I was playing the eponymous hero and good word, <v Speaker 2>and that very first night I started doing that remarkable <v Speaker 2>speech that I much not repeat, but it begins with tomorrow. <v Speaker 2>And as I did it, members of the audience were <v Speaker 2>saying it with me, and I got complete. I got <v Speaker 2>completely lost with him because I was thinking, oh does <v Speaker 2>that come? I was very nervous stick to plays that <v Speaker 2>the audience don't know. <v Speaker 5>By kidding that would be a little bit Oh, yes, <v Speaker 5>there you are. <v Speaker 2>I mean imagine doing to be or not to be? <v Speaker 2>And you've got everyone in the room saying that is <v Speaker 2>the question. And now now these days, these days, I'd <v Speaker 2>probably get up and go, all right, that would do it? <v Speaker 2>What is it next to die? And by asleep? Yes, <v Speaker 2>And that is the worst performance of Hamlet that you <v Speaker 2>will ever see. By the way, the first printed version <v Speaker 2>of that is a pirated version. It's the It's the <v Speaker 2>bad Quarto. The Duke of Devonshire's Quarto is published in <v Speaker 2>sixteen hundred and two. It is shorter, and we know <v Speaker 2>who stole the thing because the parts of the player <v Speaker 2>King and who else the player King, and I think <v Speaker 2>the grave digger they are they are, they are perfectly <v Speaker 2>as described in the Better Quarto. And you see, in <v Speaker 2>those days there was no copyright. If you went to <v Speaker 2>the stationer and said, I've got William Shakespeare's new play, <v Speaker 2>yeah boy, give us, give us five pounds and you <v Speaker 2>can have it right, sign on the dotted line, right, <v Speaker 2>and and that's how they got pirated. But the players <v Speaker 2>had a way of uh, I hate this damn thing <v Speaker 2>sitting down here, but it's a lifelong struggle. Yeah, yeah, <v Speaker 2>there we go there. Yeah, the players, the players had <v Speaker 2>a way of getting around this because they would only <v Speaker 2>have the senior members of the company. Shakespeare would write <v Speaker 2>his play and and and that pile of paperwork was <v Speaker 2>called the foul papers, and then a scrivener or a <v Speaker 2>scribe would draw up the entire play. The four or <v Speaker 2>five leading members of the company would get to read that, <v Speaker 2>and then there were their parts would be written out. <v Speaker 2>You know, you come in here, you do this, listen <v Speaker 2>and these the words for those copies of the play <v Speaker 2>or bits of the play were called sides. And we <v Speaker 2>still use the word sides when we are we when <v Speaker 2>we're filming or anything. I'd give me my sides for <v Speaker 2>the day, we say, But they would have just cues <v Speaker 2>and their speeches, cues and their speeches, and then later <v Speaker 2>on the day men would come in and they would <v Speaker 2>just have their sides with just you know, you come <v Speaker 2>in here, you come in there. Then they would rehearse, <v Speaker 2>maybe once or twice their cues, because otherwise you couldn't <v Speaker 2>trust the bloody actors, because they'd run off and publish <v Speaker 2>the damn script if they so. That that is how <v Speaker 2>And the band quarto, and he said, finally getting around <v Speaker 2>to the point he was making the band quarto of <v Speaker 2>to be or not to be? Goes to be or <v Speaker 2>not to be? Is that all all for? In that <v Speaker 2>sleep of death? What dreams may come? <v Speaker 4>It? <v Speaker 5>You know? <v Speaker 2>There were they only listened to. <v Speaker 5>It four or five times perhaps, but those certain phrases <v Speaker 5>they just grabbed. <v Speaker 2>To be or not to be old, that's a good one. <v Speaker 2>I can't remember what comes after that. Then. Oh but <v Speaker 2>then he said to sleep perchance to dream. I there's <v Speaker 2>the rub oh little highlights of it. They managed to <v Speaker 2>get done, and they managed to cover the whole plane <v Speaker 2>very badly. That is the first printed version of Hamlet <v Speaker 2>in two hours traffic on the stage, which may indicate <v Speaker 2>that actually the performance was shorter than the full length version. <v Speaker 2>But you can't tell. The the Elizabethans because they hungered <v Speaker 2>for words and ideas. A priest, a minister who preached <v Speaker 2>a someone that was merely an hour or two hours <v Speaker 2>long was often booed. You know, we want words, you know, <v Speaker 2>we want the holy inspiration to come to us. We <v Speaker 2>want knowledge and learning. This is how we learn. The <v Speaker 2>ordinary people do not get to read books. We don't <v Speaker 2>know how to read. Shakespeare's daughters didn't know how to <v Speaker 2>read and write. Well, they certainly didn't know how to write. <v Speaker 2>We can't really tell whether they knew how to read. <v Speaker 5>But as distinct from the play in the film that <v Speaker 5>you're probably good to see sometime. <v Speaker 2>Which is sweet and it's nice, but it's got nothing <v Speaker 2>to do with Shakespeare. Of course, it's missus Shakespeare's story. <v Speaker 2>The fact that she was probably a literate herself, and <v Speaker 2>was an orphan and obliged to marry the what was he, <v Speaker 2>eighteen seventeen eighteen year old boy? <v Speaker 1>She was oh yeah for back then, yeah yeah. <v Speaker 6>A shotgun wedding by the way, Oh really, yes, William <v Speaker 6>you Rascal, Well you know it's all home Owes when <v Speaker 6>you're seventeen. <v Speaker 3>Yes, it is. <v Speaker 4>I you. <v Speaker 3>See. <v Speaker 1>If you're a fan of everything we do here at <v Speaker 1>tuned In with Jim Cummings, you could support the show <v Speaker 1>on Patreon for bonus exclusive podcasts, as well as early <v Speaker 1>in ad free access to the show itself, prize drawings, <v Speaker 1>and more. You'll feel the difference, So go ahead and <v Speaker 1>join the tuned In family today at patreon dot com <v Speaker 1>slash Jim Cummings Podcast. <v Speaker 2>Do it now. <v Speaker 4>I have a question for you, John, as an actor <v Speaker 4>with somebody with such a reverence for the theater, you <v Speaker 4>were working on a project called Squadron forty two that's <v Speaker 4>all motion capture. I believe that was your first experience <v Speaker 4>with motion capture. How does the theater translate to your <v Speaker 4>experience with that wearing a camera on your head and <v Speaker 4>dots all over your body? Is that? Is that a <v Speaker 4>foreign experience? Is that an exciting creative challenge? <v Speaker 5>Well, Spandex and I, there's the quote for you right there, <v Speaker 5>John Resby Spandex and I his auto autobiography. I want <v Speaker 5>to see you promising around you, I've got some under <v Speaker 5>my genes. Well, yeah, yeah, all acting is really the same. <v Speaker 5>It's the projection of thought and energy in the right <v Speaker 5>way through the through the medium. When when you're on <v Speaker 5>the stage you can do great gestures like that. <v Speaker 2>When you're on a long shot or a medium shot <v Speaker 2>on a film, you can nod your head. If it's <v Speaker 2>a close happ and you're doing your head, you. <v Speaker 3>Know, it looks like exercise. <v Speaker 2>It's it's it's it's it's conveying the power or the weakness, <v Speaker 2>or telling the story or helping the story be told, <v Speaker 2>or assisting the leading person to pace the thing that <v Speaker 2>is the thing demanded. And and even if. <v Speaker 5>It is you know, squat on forty two, and it's <v Speaker 5>it's selling telling a story. <v Speaker 2>It's all. It's all the same. It's just different slightly <v Speaker 2>different approaches by different medium. Yeah. Well, you know, absolutely, <v Speaker 2>I've told enough. <v Speaker 3>You got no no. <v Speaker 1>Enjoying being in the audience right here. This is good stuff, <v Speaker 1>This is great. <v Speaker 4>Well, one question I had for both of you that <v Speaker 4>I was thinking about. You've both done a number of <v Speaker 4>obviously voice acting roles, but also narration, and I was <v Speaker 4>curious to ask both of you how if at all. <v Speaker 4>Narration differs from creating a character. Is the narrator that <v Speaker 4>you're playing for whatever project? Is that a character? Is <v Speaker 4>that a version of yourself? What would you differentiate the <v Speaker 4>two approaches. <v Speaker 2>I think it's a character. <v Speaker 1>It feels like a character to me, you know, because <v Speaker 1>you know, you're commenting on what's going on in the <v Speaker 1>in the scene, and it gives it gives context, I think, <v Speaker 1>and it gives people something. <v Speaker 3>To think about. <v Speaker 1>And and if you don't know a big word, he <v Speaker 1>can explain it to you, the narrator. U. Oh yeah, <v Speaker 1>but it's it's definitely a character, I would think, don't <v Speaker 1>don't you agree? I mean, you got to have some <v Speaker 1>juice because you're part storyteller, and a storyteller is very <v Speaker 1>much a character. <v Speaker 4>Okay, I could be. <v Speaker 2>Wrong, No, no, you're You're not wrong, but you're not <v Speaker 2>right all the time. I did a religious work. I <v Speaker 2>don't think I'm going to name it, but it had <v Speaker 2>to be Every word had to be right, and obviously <v Speaker 2>the intonation had to be right. It was written by <v Speaker 2>a lady and it was really one of the hardest <v Speaker 2>things I've ever done. You know, it goes along the <v Speaker 2>lines of you have done this, and you have done this, <v Speaker 2>and you you you feel that you have served Christ <v Speaker 2>in doing it, but you haven't actually done it that way, <v Speaker 2>because you have thought about this when you did this, <v Speaker 2>and this is itself. It just it was. It was <v Speaker 2>a sort of mind bending theological discussion of such minute <v Speaker 2>detail that that it almost broke my spirit, to be <v Speaker 2>honest with him, it was. It was interminably long. I <v Speaker 2>have no idea whether it was every ever any good. <v Speaker 4>And dear me, it's so you didn't feel like you <v Speaker 4>were playing a character. <v Speaker 2>No, I felt I was. I felt I was dis <v Speaker 2>I was engaging with an argument in an argument which <v Speaker 2>very much was sort of almost a medieval tract on <v Speaker 2>how many angels could dance on the head of a pin. <v Speaker 2>But that actually is a cosmological question as well as <v Speaker 2>anything else, and that could be quite an interesting argument. <v Speaker 2>But I completely failed in this one. And I don't <v Speaker 2>think I will ever do a narration like that again. <v Speaker 2>I mean, it just took too much time. And and <v Speaker 2>then you, you know, your own human brain says, wait <v Speaker 2>a minute, that can't be right. It has to be <v Speaker 2>an illogical jump there. But you've got to continue in <v Speaker 2>that certain vein, and yeah, but he is right. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, there you go. I was just going to ask <v Speaker 1>that that we cleared that up. <v Speaker 4>I have another question for both of you, working with <v Speaker 4>so many prolific actors and being such prolific actors yourselves, <v Speaker 4>who is one person that you've worked with that really <v Speaker 4>inspired you in your own career? <v Speaker 2>M wow, Well I can tell you who I missed <v Speaker 2>and cried when he died, and that was Robin Williams. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, boy. Yeah. <v Speaker 2>You know. <v Speaker 1>It's funny because I worked with him but never met <v Speaker 1>him because it was animation, and animation you don't necessarily <v Speaker 1>meet your your castmates. They're not you know, as you know, <v Speaker 1>you're usually you're kind of flying solo. But one of <v Speaker 1>my proudest moments is he kind of almost gave me <v Speaker 1>the finger. And it was in the Aladdin series, which <v Speaker 1>you know all about. <v Speaker 3>I was, I was, I was resu you will have <v Speaker 3>to take it up with Joe. <v Speaker 7>I was the bad get that guy, and and uh <v Speaker 7>and so oh yeah, I'm right yeah, And so I <v Speaker 7>was kind of giving some grief there and and Robin <v Speaker 7>snapped his fingers as the genie and everything turned into <v Speaker 7>a giant courtroom and I was the witness bound in <v Speaker 7>the chair there, and he goes, I'm sorry, but I <v Speaker 7>will not be upstairs by tertiar already character and he and. <v Speaker 1>He and he leaned over, grabbed my toes, rolled me <v Speaker 1>up like a window blind and boom vamished me out <v Speaker 1>of the room. So one of my proudest moments was <v Speaker 1>Robin Williams gave me the finger. Thank you good night <v Speaker 1>everybody anyway, So that yeah, that's my story and I'm <v Speaker 1>sticking to it. <v Speaker 4>Speaking of the finger, though, I wanted to ask you <v Speaker 4>this job. You played a pretty good prank on Peter <v Speaker 4>Jackson with a middle finger. Do you think you could <v Speaker 4>tell us that story? <v Speaker 3>You remember, old p D. Don't you? <v Speaker 2>My very first school report when I was five years <v Speaker 2>old predicted my sorry future John could do well as <v Speaker 2>soon as he learns that life is not a joke. <v Speaker 2>And I never did make it. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, so cut too. <v Speaker 2>And I use the word cut advisedly. <v Speaker 5>I would like to give you a wonderful story about <v Speaker 5>how I lost the tip of my finger. <v Speaker 2>You know, how the Germans came out of the hun <v Speaker 2>came out of the sun. <v Speaker 5>I you know, I chopped down five of them, and <v Speaker 5>you know the sixth one I had, or the crocodile <v Speaker 5>crocodile version. <v Speaker 2>The triple matter is I had an old van and <v Speaker 2>my son blew the engine up, and I was doing <v Speaker 2>an engine swap. Didn't get finished, and so I got <v Speaker 2>the engine in and I was going to LA the <v Speaker 2>next day, and I was working on Wednesday, and I <v Speaker 2>just didn't have time to finish it. So I towed <v Speaker 2>it around. I would tow it around a friend of <v Speaker 2>mine's place because he was going to do the rest <v Speaker 2>for me. So we started towing, and I had to <v Speaker 2>flag my tower. <v Speaker 5>Down a little bit because the prop shaft is whipping <v Speaker 5>it a little bit. <v Speaker 2>And so I get the old coach hager steel and <v Speaker 2>the wiring up a little bit more than I not. <v Speaker 2>And he's getting into the car and I think I won, <v Speaker 2>and he takes off without me, and it takes the <v Speaker 2>top of the finger off into the metal work. Then <v Speaker 2>you have to go to. <v Speaker 4>Then go to the local. <v Speaker 2>Hospital and the island man where I live, you know, <v Speaker 2>and you've got grease on your hands, and you've got <v Speaker 2>the tip of your finger here, and oh, mister Davis, <v Speaker 2>oh how wonderful to see you. I wanted to We <v Speaker 2>have your autograph and of course actors. Actors are so <v Speaker 2>bloody dumb, that's what we do. So you know, I yes, <v Speaker 2>of course, yes, yes to Divina and Seth yes, yes, okay, <v Speaker 2>oh yes, yes. I don't think we can do anything <v Speaker 2>about it. Yeah, you'll have to go to the big <v Speaker 2>hospital anyway. Anyway, So in the end, in the end, <v Speaker 2>what I should just have done is wrap the dawn <v Speaker 2>thing up and got on the plane greasy as I <v Speaker 2>was flew into the flown to New York, and they <v Speaker 2>had to put it back on. In the end, it <v Speaker 2>was just easier to cut it off anyway. <v Speaker 3>Caps too good thing it was all on your finger. <v Speaker 2>Yeah. Then then they then New Zealand. Yes, so so <v Speaker 2>we decided to play the plank on Peter Jackson. So <v Speaker 2>my my brilliant uh sort of makeup man creates from <v Speaker 2>this finger, creates another one there that we can stick on. <v Speaker 2>We put a tiny bit of white for the bone <v Speaker 2>in there, and then we put a little bit of <v Speaker 2>white of red round there. And I go up to <v Speaker 2>Peter and say a pierod boy I seem to have <v Speaker 2>and I started pushing it back, oh wow, and and <v Speaker 2>Peter goes, oh johnthy god, you order as you can <v Speaker 2>see my Oh my, my, my, My early school mistress <v Speaker 2>really knew what she was talking about. <v Speaker 3>Oh god, but that's pretty good. <v Speaker 2>That's pretty good. Wow. <v Speaker 3>So you really did give him the finger? <v Speaker 2>Yes? <v Speaker 5>Wow. <v Speaker 2>Actually I put my finger into a jar of alcohol <v Speaker 2>and stuck it in the fridge. But I had a <v Speaker 2>guest who came along who was so frightened and disgusted <v Speaker 2>about it that he threw it out. I wanted to <v Speaker 2>be buried with that finger, I think, you know, I mean, <v Speaker 2>you expect to turn up there or probably down there <v Speaker 2>for me, you know, and say, come on, come on, <v Speaker 2>make it all happen and again. And now he's gonna <v Speaker 2>they're gonna have to say I'm sorry. There's so many <v Speaker 2>fingers down that we can't even begin to look for. Yeah, <v Speaker 2>all right, glad. <v Speaker 3>You weren't going to the bathroom at that time. Oh yeah, yay. <v Speaker 1>If you're a fan of everything we do here at <v Speaker 1>Tuned In with Jim Cummings, you could support the show <v Speaker 1>on Patreon for bonus exclusive podcasts, as well as early <v Speaker 1>in ad free access to the show itself, prize drawings, <v Speaker 1>and more. You'll feel the difference, so go ahead and <v Speaker 1>join the Tuned in Family Today at Patreon dot com <v Speaker 1>slash Jim Cummings Podcast. <v Speaker 2>Do it now? <v Speaker 4>I think it's that time of the podcast that we <v Speaker 4>do a voice swap. What do you think, Jim? <v Speaker 2>I do? <v Speaker 4>Indeed, do you want to play a little game here? <v Speaker 4>We do a little game on this podcast. It's the <v Speaker 4>voice swap game. I'll explain it to you. Don't worry, <v Speaker 4>don't worry, I don't worry. <v Speaker 2>That's right. <v Speaker 3>God, are you familiar with it? <v Speaker 2>Say? <v Speaker 5>Yes? <v Speaker 4>All right? So how the game works? Honestly, when I <v Speaker 4>was doing research on you for this for this panel <v Speaker 4>right here, I didn't realize how many voices you had <v Speaker 4>done and how versatile your voice is. You know, I <v Speaker 4>feel like we're so compenditioned. No, no, no, no, maybe <v Speaker 4>a little bit. We'll we'll take what are your characters <v Speaker 4>and say, for example, Jim, we'll take Winnie the Pooh <v Speaker 4>and he'll say one of the catch phrases, you stay <v Speaker 4>as sweet as honey. And then you'll repeat that same <v Speaker 4>line but in one of your character's voices. So say <v Speaker 4>I don't know tree Beard, and you'll say the same <v Speaker 4>line in that voice, and then we'll do vice versa. <v Speaker 4>How does that sound don't look so concerned. <v Speaker 2>Wait. Wait, he does Winni the Pooh with his version <v Speaker 2>of Winnie the Pooh, and then tree Beard it does <v Speaker 2>the last the same line. Okay, out when does this second? <v Speaker 3>The pain is almost over? <v Speaker 1>But I have a question for the audience, because I <v Speaker 1>should I bring out Bonkers or Windy the Pooh or. <v Speaker 4>Dark Wing or. <v Speaker 1>Okay, well that was good, so you have it then, Okay, <v Speaker 1>I don't remember how that one sounded. No, okay, say <v Speaker 1>Pooh Tigger? <v Speaker 3>Okay, which one? <v Speaker 4>Dark Wing? You say? Yes? <v Speaker 3>Okay, dark Wing? <v Speaker 2>Wow? <v Speaker 8>Okay, all right, that was easy. It's it's it's a <v Speaker 8>bloody duck. Okayd's going Okay, Who the hell is dark Wing? <v Speaker 8>I was anticipating foul play. <v Speaker 7>Yeah, good night, everybody. <v Speaker 3>Thank you for that. <v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, so dark wing ducks catchphrases. Anybody know it? <v Speaker 2>That's not bad? <v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, okay, all right, here we go, dark wing duck. <v Speaker 2>Let's get dangerous. Indeed, let us get dangerous. <v Speaker 4>That's we'll do vice versa, vice versa. So you pick <v Speaker 4>a character, I pick a yours. Yes, I've got it <v Speaker 4>all the work hat I Yeah, that's why we brought <v Speaker 4>you all right, all. <v Speaker 1>Right then, no Shakespeare. Now he's gonna what a piece <v Speaker 1>of work is man? And I'll be sitting there going <v Speaker 1>I'm doomed. <v Speaker 2>The happens themselves, the planets in the center. No, okay, <v Speaker 2>maybe not, okay, I'm all right then, pardon me? Yea right? Yes, okay, okay, <v Speaker 2>nobody tosses. <v Speaker 1>A dwarf, man, that's that's good stuff. <v Speaker 3>Who do you think nobody tosses a dwarf? As well <v Speaker 3>as John Rey S. Davies's kind of thinking? <v Speaker 2>It is? <v Speaker 3>Nobody tosses a dwarf because they're good at gathering? Honey? <v Speaker 2>Wow? <v Speaker 4>Should we do one more? One more request? Every request? <v Speaker 4>Because it's one of my favorite characters in SpongeBob. Yes, <v Speaker 4>can we do? <v Speaker 2>Man? <v Speaker 3>Ray? <v Speaker 2>This is your wallet? <v Speaker 3>Is your wallet? <v Speaker 2>Okay? I know, I think I've got that long tony. <v Speaker 2>Is this your wallet? That's even worse? I mean better? No, honorable, <v Speaker 2>go on, okay, do it? <v Speaker 4>Do it? <v Speaker 3>Just do it and shut up and do it? <v Speaker 1>Who should have been bunkers tigger? <v Speaker 2>Okay? <v Speaker 3>Is this your wallet? <v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. <v Speaker 3>I can't thank you enough, sir. <v Speaker 2>You were best? <v Speaker 3>You are? <v Speaker 2>Are you amazed? Oh? <v Speaker 3>You were best? You are amazing. Bless you John R. Davis, Ladies, <v Speaker 3>thank you ever ever so much. Is there anything you <v Speaker 3>want to brag it out before you leave? Runny? <v Speaker 2>Oh anything? Oh gosh as well? <v Speaker 3>Well, the whole world is watching, you know. <v Speaker 2>Well. I there's there's a new horror picture that I've <v Speaker 2>I've just done. I think it's called The Bone Collector, <v Speaker 2>which is rather good. There is another movie that's. <v Speaker 3>Not a porno, right, I've made that up, of course, <v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. <v Speaker 2>Go ahead, oh dear, the soft le vulgarity of and <v Speaker 2>and and there is Oh yes, there's a film that <v Speaker 2>we actually shot in just before COVID twenty sixteen, which <v Speaker 2>is about to come out, which is called Oak Starbright, <v Speaker 2>which is a fantasy see and uh, a lovely romantic <v Speaker 2>adventure story in which I play the archangel Raphael. Wow. <v Speaker 2>Really And oh there's a there's a little NASA thing <v Speaker 2>that I voiced the other day as well, which is <v Speaker 2>which is about Oh it's about Nasa, isn't it? And <v Speaker 2>the space and stars and and support Nasa. One of <v Speaker 2>the boys. <v Speaker 1>An absolutely fantastic God bless you sir. <v Speaker 9>No, No, what do you what? What are you going <v Speaker 9>to pumpt I don't know. I'll be at my table <v Speaker 9>in a while. Oh that is true. <v Speaker 1>I've got a Nancillo Meet the Planet coming out with <v Speaker 1>a fledgling actor, Ryan Reynolds. I'm trying to help the <v Speaker 1>kid out, do you know what I'm saying, And so <v Speaker 1>be there. Tune in, stay tuned. Speaking of tuned in, hey, <v Speaker 1>producer Chris, Thank you, sir, and thank. <v Speaker 4>Thank you guys all so much for watching and supporting, <v Speaker 4>I mean, doing this, doing this live tour at fan <v Speaker 4>Xpo has been so cool to see everybody out in <v Speaker 4>support and if you don't, you know, follow on YouTube. <v Speaker 4>I mean, we have a great time and we really <v Speaker 4>do it for you guys, Like it's really really been <v Speaker 4>an awesome journey for me. It's such a privilege to <v Speaker 4>have this job. Thank you so much, Jim. It's has <v Speaker 4>just been awesome. And if you if you want to <v Speaker 4>hear more of John there, you can look up an episode. <v Speaker 4>He was on an episode about a year ago, so <v Speaker 4>you can find that. As he's interrupting me, oh the bell, <v Speaker 4>I mean. <v Speaker 2>I told you not to call me when I'm up. <v Speaker 4>But sincerely, thank you guys all so much. We really <v Speaker 4>appreciate it. And why don't you guys go pay visits <v Speaker 4>of these guys at their boos as well. Thank you, <v Speaker 4>God bless
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