Biggest Stock Movers of the 2024 Pro Golf Season
Four months into the 2024 pro golf season, Andy and Joseph sit down to discuss the professional golfers whose stocks have gone up and down the most so far this year. First, though, they talk about what they are IN and OUT on this week, including reflections from a visit to Bandon Dunes and a bizarre ruling on the DP World Tour. Then they go through the golfers whose stocks have risen and fallen the most in 2024 and how the best players in the world stack up today. The episode closes with Recommendations.
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00:00:00 Speaker 1: I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. 00:00:02 Speaker 2: When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 00:00:05 Speaker 3: And when I find my ball in a brid. 00:00:06 Speaker 2: Egg Friday egg, the dreaded Friday Friday, Frida fridagg. 00:00:11 Speaker 3: Bride egg Lie, I'm about ready to run off of the Welcome back to another edition of the Friday Golf Podcast. I am your host, Andy Johnson. I am joined today as always by Joseph Lamanya. We are going to do a little stock up stock down for PGA Tour players. But before we get to that, or not PGA Tour players, I guess it's it's professional golfers. Is this confusing time that we're in continues? 00:00:59 Speaker 1: Uh? 00:01:00 Speaker 3: But before we get to that, let's get to our weekly segment in and out. Joseph, what are you in on? 00:01:08 Speaker 2: Well, I hope this doesn't step on the stocks up and stocks down Andy, but I'm in on Brooks Keopka showing some flashes entering the PGA Championship. I think one of the best we think about, like what are the best potential duels and Brooks Scottie would be a super exciting final group or a couple of guys to have in the mix at the PGA Championship. Brooks has won three of the last six PGAs, now wins in Live Singapore entering you know, the pj's only two weeks out. Whether or not that translates to success that the PGA, we'll see. But I think it's really exciting to have the best major champion of the past decade showing a little bit of form entering this major season. It's kind of a story that golf needs. 00:01:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think with Brooks it's always he generally plays well when it leads into leading into a major win. So seeing this just a couple of weeks before the PGAU, he is a PGA specialist. I mean, if he was able to get another one and go for the last seven, it would be truly like a remarkable, remarkable run, I think. I think in a way, and this probably there's a couple factors that go into this. He doesn't win a lot outside of majors, but also now the fact that he plays on liv all kind of adds to this. Is he's the greatest golfer that gets the least amount of chatter. And I think part of it's his personality too. I think like he doesn't give people a ton and he doesn't. It doesn't seem like he wants to give people a lot of info or you know it let him in. And then also, you know, he doesn't win all that much outside like he's really like, we've never seen somebody win majors as prolifically as he has with so little other tournaments. So I think that there's these factors that go into it. But yeah, he was able to get to the to the sixth major or fifth major, you know, or six major, sixth major. Jeez, I was like, I you know six major. I mean we're talking, you know, something something special. 00:03:28 Speaker 1: Totally. 00:03:29 Speaker 2: It's fun to root for dynasties, right, Like, I not to take anything away from Brian Harmon, but the Brian Harmon win last year at the Open Championship like that doesn't have a ton of juice. But I think Brooks adding a sixth would be an incredible story. So I'm excited to see what he can do about Halla. 00:03:44 Speaker 1: Andy. What are you went on? 00:03:46 Speaker 3: All right? I'm in on Banded Dunes and a lot of people have talked about this. I just spent a weekend there for their twenty fifth anniversary. It was really a cool event. Obviously, it made you sit and think about where golf was before Banded Dunes where it is now. I think it's had a seismic influence. I don't think that there's really any any development in the last twenty five years, including Sandhills. I think Sandhills is the one that you could point to and say, hey, maybe this is this is where Bandon kind of got the idea. But Bandon, I think there's something about Mike, Mike Kaiser being just a normal guy. You know, he had his greeting card company, and that him being able to do this, build this golf empire from not having a golf background has inspired so many other people to attempt to build golf. Beyond that, the type of golf has had a huge influence on the design industry. He really changed along with sand Hills and the work of architects like Bill Krr, Tom Doak, Gil Hans, David McClay, like they have changed the way golf, you know, the trend of golf architecture. But I think, like the thing when I was there this weekend that I thought about the most was just the the impact that Bandon Dunes has had on the economy in the southern on the southern Court coast of Oregon, and I think that's the one that probably gets talked about the least. But this was a struggling logging community. 00:05:28 Speaker 2: Uh. 00:05:28 Speaker 3: The logging industry obviously is not one that's been great, you know, over over the last couple of decades. And this was a you know, an economy that didn't have a lot going on. And now you go there and when you're on property, you just I just can't believe. I mean, there's thousands of jobs that have been created by this, by this resort. The the housing market in Bandon is is crazy. But you know, Mike Kaiser is doing things like buying up you know, big swaths of housing that he's doing employee housing. He's building employee housing like it is just it's remarkable, and I think it's a great story. Like as golf comes in, you know, it comes in the crosshairs of of of of the public a lot with municipal golf in cities and in the land uses and everything. But Banded Dudes is really a great story of what golf can bring economically to an area. And I think the Kaisers are doing a similar thing up in Sand Valley in Rome and Nakousa, Wisconsin, a town that down on the Look area because of, you know, the decline of the paper industry. It's it's a very similar story there. But it's just I think that, like the way that has changed lives in that area is kind of under talked about and really a cool aspect of the resort. Beyond all the great things it's done for golf, it has really lifted an area of the country that's really beautiful, remarkable that people didn't really know about and now people know about how the beauty of the area, but also that town and community has benefited greatly from from the golf that was, you know, the golf that's changed the golf industry. So that's what I'm in on, Joseph, you have anything on that. 00:07:24 Speaker 2: No, I think that was well said. I haven't been to Bandon, would love to. I mean, was there anything you learned about Bandon from this time around? I know you've been there before, but was there anything that stood out to you never considered before? Maybe the economic impact is the answer. 00:07:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was the thing that I kind of thought about. It's just how many lives have been changed impacted from that. And it even goes to like the caddies, like you know they have I think they when summer they have like four hundred caddies operating, but they have hundreds of full time caddies. And and you know, it's like the the year round play, I mean the year around aspect of the resort. It's it's sold out all year round. It's like, you know, it's just I think, like I I also like, you know, I guess like from an architecture standpoint, played Old Mac again, really enjoyed that that that's just like a delightful golf course. It's super fun, it's super wide. You know, it plays so different based off of all the whole locations. I also, you know, Pacific Dunes is amazing. I think, like I, I think that's probably the biggest thing I walked away from from everything. I love trails. I love the Walk of Trails, but Pacific Dunes is the one course there that you know, I would consider playing over like a Royal County down for a day or a Royal Port Rush or you know, the Old Course, or you know, like Pacific Dunes is truly true one of the greatest golf courses in the world, and I was like, very like, I've played it now I think three times and going around it again. I just like, I'm amazed at how great that golf course is. It is one of the greatest modern golf courses in the world. And I think, uh, would I want to play it every day? No, I think it would. It would wear me out. But you know, that golf course is really spectacular and special. It has everything. The flow of the golf course is amazing. It makes you like one of the things I think that I like the most about it because it really makes you hit some shots. It makes you do some things that you don't want to do. And I think that across that that resort just in general, with with the retail golfer focus of of the resort, there are there are a lot of holes that don't make you do what you don't want to do. There's places to bail out. I think in particular the Bandon Dunes, the stretch of eleven twelve, thirteen, fourteen twelve's pretty friendly, but and even you could throw fifteen and sixteen in there, like you got to hit some golf shots. And if you hit the golf shots, you can score like crazy on the back nine, but if you don't, you're in. You're in for a world of hurt. And you're doing it right on the Pacific Ocean. 00:10:25 Speaker 1: It is. 00:10:26 Speaker 3: It's a great golf course. 00:10:28 Speaker 1: Sweet. 00:10:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I feel like a big lesson for me the last two years has been the importance of wind as a defense to the modern golfer, especially a good golfer. And you're talking about the fun of shot making. Wind being such a reliable defense abandons like one of the main reasons I want to get out. 00:10:43 Speaker 1: There like that. 00:10:44 Speaker 2: Obviously the views are another part of that. But it's pretty easy to hit a lot of stock shots on a lot of golf courses. But when there's a lot of wind, it's a reliable defense. So I think you you talking about that makes me even more eager. 00:10:57 Speaker 1: To get out there. 00:10:59 Speaker 2: All right, what are you Andy? I'm curious to your perspective on this. I don't know if you saw this. It's a a ruling that happened on the DP World Tour this past weekend. 00:11:08 Speaker 3: Did you see this and see it now? 00:11:10 Speaker 2: So this is a report from Ryan French at Monday q Monday Queue dot com. Yvonne Contero is the golfer's name. So in his Thursday round Andy, he hits a ball into a penalty area off the tee on a par five. He isn't sure if it's a penalty area or not, and so he hits a provisional And apparently in that case, if you're not sure if it's a penalty area or not, you are allowed to hit a provisional. 00:11:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're under you're using the premise of it might be out of bounds or it might be a lost ball. 00:11:44 Speaker 2: Correct, You always hit a provisional for a lost ball. So he goes up it is a penalty area. He calls a rules official and the rules official tells him that he's he wasn't allowed to hit a provisional, which is not correct, so he asks for a second opinion. He's pretty insistent that he did what he's supposed to do, and the other rules official also says the same thing, that he wasn't supposed to hit a provisional. So he's then forced to play the provisional ball that he had hit, which is in the middle of the fairway. Instead of taking a drop and playing it as a hazard, hits it on the green and makes it a putt for five. After the round, they realized that it was a mistake on the rules officials parts, and they subtract one from his score, which I have never seen done before. He would have had to go over play the ball from the penalty area or take a drop and still make a four, like he would have had to get it up and down from there to get the same score as subtracting one. But that's what the rules officials decided was the right course of action to correct the mistake under rule twenty two twenty point two that if a ruling is found to be wrong, the ruling can be corrected under the rule. It's a pretty ambiguous clause in the rule book, but that's the decision they went with. He ends up making the cut on the number. I've never seen anything like that where they just go out and subtract one off a score. 00:13:10 Speaker 3: What do you think about that? It's very strange. I mean, he did it have a lot of weight on the tournament. Did you make the cut miss the cut? 00:13:21 Speaker 1: Made the cut on the number? 00:13:22 Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, because of the subtraction. 00:13:28 Speaker 2: It was just yeah, it was his first round, but still he ended up making the cut on the number. Yeah, I mean, I just think it's a crazy I've never seen that before, where you subtract one from the score. It's very unlikely that if he had played with a penalty shoh. 00:13:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, he would have got up and down. Yeah, I'm a nuts. 00:13:45 Speaker 1: I'm out on that. 00:13:46 Speaker 3: It's extremely weird. I don't understand how they came to that. The whole thing is strange, Like, how do they like? I feel like that's a really common sense. Hey, if you presume the ball might be lost, you could play the provisional And it sounds like that was what it was. 00:14:07 Speaker 1: I was reported. 00:14:08 Speaker 3: Maybe I don't like it. I don't love this too. 00:14:11 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe the lesson here, Andy is if you know the rules, don't call the rules official like professional callfers call rules officials over every little thing. Is that the lesson? Like, Hey, if you know the rule, just don't why even call rules official? 00:14:26 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:14:26 Speaker 3: I think that might be It might be it. It might be it. You got your you got your playing partners, and you you lock in and and you don't need them. I yeah, I had I had something funny happened to me. And when I played the US mid Am years ago where I just had like a regular routine cart path drop and we were and like I was about to do it, and then this rules official rolled up on me and all of a sudden, the drop took like ten minutes. I mean I was like in the process of taking the drop like a cart path, like you know, like you know how to drop from a cart path. That played golf my whole life. So this drop that like takes ten minutes, and it was they have these like timing timing holes, and it was on a timing hole. And we get to the next tea and the guy that that took that made me take ten minutes to drop off this cart path, then like your your group's out of position, like we had been waiting on every shot. We have this drop, we fall behind and it just. 00:15:29 Speaker 4: Like it was just you know, it had no bearing on really like you know, I don't think it had a bearing on anybody in our group, but we were just kind of like wait, like we're now we're now being monitored, like. 00:15:44 Speaker 3: You just you were the reason that we're out of position, because he drove up and he was. 00:15:49 Speaker 2: Like whoa, whoa, So anyone want to be the rules official that tells Andy Johnson he's out of position, after causing him to be out of position. 00:15:58 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much. 00:16:00 Speaker 3: Uh. It was. It was just like a it was just such a weird, weird situation. 00:16:05 Speaker 1: I was. 00:16:05 Speaker 3: I was playing well at that point in the tournament, so like I kind of just kept rolling and like I'm usually not really worried about pace of play, but it was just this, Like I always think about that with rules officials and drops, It's like, you know, these things are not this is not open heart surgery. And it seems to me that golf just gets way too in the weeds here and tactical we we need we need a little bit more autonomy. And with the rules of golf, I don't know what the answer is. I've gone back and forth. Like part of me thinks that there should be just like with the money they're playing for, especially on the PGA Tour, there should just be a rules official in every group and they and they may they take it all out of the players, like if there's something there, there are a there, and it's like just drop here or they even do the drop, like maybe that's the way it should go. It's like, you know, like they just do the drop. It's not like, you know, when there's a foul or something in the NBA, the players when it's a dead ball, the players don't get to just go like throw the ball in the official hands and the ball throw in right. Every other sport's like this, like there's no like hey, like they set So it's like, if there's a drop situation, why doesn't the official just do it? At this point, I think it's a little different when the economics of it go down, Like I think that makes sense maybe for the PGA Tour or major championships. I don't think it makes sense for every tour. But I don't know the rules of golf, especially especially in the Internet age. It's just there's these rules. Officials aren't perfect. I think, like the what to become a rules officially, you have to take a test, and I don't I think, like the passing great is not like it's not like you have to nail all the rules, like you know, like these guys don't know all the rules. It's a it's a super hard thing to understand all the nuances of these rules. 00:18:05 Speaker 1: I hear you. 00:18:05 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you wouldn't even need a rules official with every group, you'd probably just need one on every hole. But I think, Andy, I'm too much of a sucker for rules controversies that I think I want the players to keep litigating where a ball crossed into the penalty hazard. 00:18:17 Speaker 1: I think I like it the way that it is. But what are you out on? 00:18:21 Speaker 3: I'm out on the CJ Cup by Ron Nelson. I I just I really struggled with this one, more so than I think, more so than any event on the calendar. This might be the worst event that the PGA Tours ever put on in their history. The golf course is flat out awful. It was in terrible shape. They had their sodding numerous fairways. I don't like agronomy can be hard, but this is golf course. It's then you think about like, oh, it's the CJ Cup. The CJ Cup started as like this wonderful event bringing the PGA Tour to South Korea, a golf craze company our country, and somehow now we've muddled the Byron Nelson an event that used to have like history, used to be a really good event when Byron Nelson was alive and players like honored Byron Nelson's life and career by going there, and the tour has somehow run this into the ground into it's become this just mediocre, not mediocre, downright bad event that's sponsored by this It's the CJ Cup, which used to be a interesting fall event where we're taking a lot of the best players in the world to South Korea, a place that like when you talk about globalizing the game, becoming a world tour, is this like the whole combination of this was downright awful. Like I don't I just I can't get over how bad this was. We had zero interest is zero I cover golf for a living. I had no interest in putting on the TV to watch this this weekend. I thought the leader board was bad, the field was bad. There's just this shouldn't be a PGA Tour event. There should they shouldn't have events instead of putting this stuff on. And it's just, you know, I think, like, how does this event get better? It gets better if if there's twenty players that are gone from the PGA Tour that are back on the PGA Tour playing in these events, then all of a sudden, the depth, like you probably have some players that are notable names that are playing. You know, this is no offense to like Taylor Pendrith and Ben Cole's and Shkim the players that were in the mix. But like, I don't know, I just I struggled. I struggled with this event. I can't. 00:21:01 Speaker 1: I just don't. 00:21:02 Speaker 3: I don't know how we go from that event to the event this week at Wells Vargo where you have all the top players to the PGA Championship and say that this is the same product, because it's not. It's the NBA. Wouldn't call that the same product. 00:21:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've talked about it a million times. I mean they shouldn't be the same. This shouldn't get FedEx Cup points. And I know that's a different level, but they shouldn't. This event shouldn't even get FedEx Cup points to begin with. I'd love to take a positive. 00:21:27 Speaker 3: They should get a Master's exemption. That event should not get a Master's exemption. Nothing about about winning, you know, about winning that event does anything for me. It doesn't make me think about Taylor Pendrith in any way differently. 00:21:44 Speaker 2: No, I'd love to take a positive spin here. I had the same takeaway. I think if it's a bad field like this was. It's got to be on an interesting golf course or a funky golf course, something to give the viewer something to watch for. But we've seen TPC Craig Branch really bad golf course. Not on at primetime, it's on in the middle of the day. Like I think asking people's time away from family on a Sunday to watch that was a huge ask and I think the numbers will show the most people just didn't. 00:22:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the other thing about it is like it does make you think about just golf in general. I think this is where the PGA Tours really starts to struggle outside of the majors. It's hard. You know, you're now into the time of the year where like May is when everybody's getting outside everywhere, right, it's it's it's great weather in places like Texas, where you are in Florida, it's really nice out early May. Every part of the country is active and outdoors, and it becomes really hard to sit inside and commit to golf coverage at this time time of year. It makes me think, like when you when you know we're in this period, who knows what's going on with the board and the deals. It seems like it seems awfully quiet and awfully it seems like they're at a log jam where they're just not going anywhere. But when you talk about they've they've said, oh, now it's time to address the product. This is where the product needs to be addressed, Like, what are we doing at this time of year? Could we get coverage like that ends at eight pm? Like I think that gives golf a better shot if you could, if you could get it later in the day. I just don't think that it's realistic, especially with the way the world's evolving, parenting's changing. I don't think it's realistic to ask people at week in, week out to commit to like midday coverage on the weekend. The world's kind of changing, the roles of parents are changing, And if you want the sport to be younger, if you want the sport to evolve, if you want the product to improve, you have to look at like when you're putting this stuff on TV and who's playing in it, what you're putting out there. And this was to me, like, honestly, I think this was the worst event the PGA Tours ever put on for. 00:24:13 Speaker 2: Me, it's always this in the Mexico Open are like kind of a toss up because Beatonto Viarta has about as much intrigue as TPC Craig Branch. But yeah, I agree with you, Andy would echo all that. I also think, when you're talking about the world changing, volunteers have been a huge part of the PGA Tours business model, and so I think that's the case for why they've done a lot of events the way that they've done them. Also, I think players where I want to go with this, and maybe it's a broader discussion, but players don't need to play as many practice rounds as they did twenty years ago, So I think in general there should be more freedom to experiment with different formats. Maybe not every event is Thursday to Sunday, seventy two hole stroke play like the golfers don't need to be there all week, happening in the middle of the day. I agree with all of that, and I think there should be some more experimentation. 00:24:58 Speaker 1: This did not work. 00:25:00 Speaker 3: Let's get to our stock up stock down. Before we get there, let's talk about club champion, Club champion. I was at Bandon, you know you fight weather there the last time I was at Bandon. I played with my old retro irons, my blades, and I gotta tell you something, having having my new irons, my Club Champion irons, it gave me like a little bit of heavier ball cutting through the wind. I had a little bit more, you know, I didn't my ball wasn't launching and with as much spin and height, and it really helped me on a few occasions like flight the ball down. And this is the type of stuff you get when you go to Club Champion is you're gonna get your your set fully optimized and it's gonna, like, in particular, I think, help you the most when conditions are tough. 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I think the player that's changed their stock first one. Yeah, you have to talk about Scotti Scheffler. Right this time last year, it was bouncing around who's the best golfer in the world. People are making cases for rom especially after he won the Masters. You could have made an argument for Rory at stretches of last year. Obviously after the PA right right, you could have made a case for Scottie, and then last fall you could have made a case for Victor Hovland. Now there's not any case to be made besides Scotty Scheffler four wins in his last five starts, the only other one was a runner up. Now adds a second major championship, winning at the Masters. I think the difference between having one major to your name and two is quite significant. Clearly the best player in the world. 00:28:35 Speaker 3: I think the other things the two players is like you know, you say two majors, and I am. I think I'm fully on board with the Garretts take of players should be half majors, and it's like Sky Scheffler is like the case in point of this two majors does it doesn't feel like Scotty's won only two majors. 00:28:58 Speaker 2: I think the problem with retch actively. I know it's been done before, but I think when you retroactively make something a major. 00:29:04 Speaker 3: Like there was, we're not making a major. It's just like if you're counting. It's just like think go through, go through the names and add half majors to two players. 00:29:14 Speaker 1: I understand the take. 00:29:15 Speaker 2: I just think giving Scotty a Major when you weren't playing with like major championship, knowing it was a major championship or half a major championship, I don't know if I'm fully can get behind that, but I agree. I mean, it's it's a much more significant event than winning the CJ Cup. But yeah, I think Scotty's the player who's changed his stock the most this year. Now, it's just not even he's one of the strongest favorites in these upcoming majors that we've seen in recent years. I think the chances he wins the PGA or especially wins Pinehurst. I mean, Andy, I was thinking about that, if there's not a ton of wind at Pinehurst, He's he's winning that event, right, Like, can you picture him not being in the top five or six names in that event? 00:29:54 Speaker 1: I can't. 00:29:55 Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's a lot of aarants in golf, but that's a good setup for him. 00:29:59 Speaker 3: I just think the level at which his ball strikings at it's hard to imagine. I mean, we saw him last year putting horrendously, like very poorly, and he still was like top five like all the time. You know, he went on a run. What was the He went so many weeks without finishing outside the top ten and he was putting very below average. So you think about the only way we get to a point where Scottie maybe has a downturn is something with the golf swing, and right now it feels like that's not really feasible. And I think, like I've talked about this a little bit, but I think it goes back to his approach, like his fundamentals. Just the maniacal focus on fundamentals I think prohibits the swing from getting in a bad place, Like he's not a tinkerer. He's I don't think he's gonna be a guy that get you know, we see this so often. We get players to the top of the game, they get to their their peak of their level of play ever, and then they decide they need to make a change and they need to try and do something else to get to the next level. I don't think Scotty is going to do that. I think he understands what's getting him here and he's just continuing on the path. And I think that, like God, like I wish, you know, It's like something I've just thought about with Scheffler is like I wish I could go back to when I was seventeen and just apply what I've watched Scheffler do, where it's just like all he does every time he goes out to play around of golf is he starts with fundamental check and it's like, Okay, if my fundamentals are locked in, if I set up to the ball the right way, there's only so many things that can go wrong. And I just think that, to me is like what I believe even most about Scotty Scheffler is that I just don't see a big dip coming. But that being said, golf is very fickle and this could change and all of a sudden he could get something like, you know, the driver. As soon as you hit a couple squirrely, you can get in a bad mental place with a driver. But I don't know, it just seems seems very far away for Scotty. Just looks really easy everywhere. But I think the greens is still a work. But he kind of has that zell Torus thing going where you feel like fifteen feet away you're like, oh my god, this is probably going to go in. You're the only ones you're really worried about are like the forty eight footers. 00:32:46 Speaker 2: Right, And if he ball strikes well enough, he can give himself a little bit of a cushion to miss a four foot or a five footter here and there. 00:32:53 Speaker 1: So no, I agree. 00:32:54 Speaker 2: I think the other thing with Scotty it kind of hits on the not tinkering. He doesn't react to like short term, you know, oh I hit my wedges badly this week, so now I'm gonna overhaul my swing and try to figure out my wedges. Like He's always verbalized that he understands it's about the long term. He's not gonna overreact with some short term bad putting. I agree, it doesn't feel like it's going anywhere, but maybe an injury is the biggest thing that could derail him, and then the neck flaring up or something and him. 00:33:18 Speaker 1: Having to adapt his swing to it. 00:33:19 Speaker 2: But I don't see a world in which he's he doesn't at least isn't in the mix and one more major this year. 00:33:26 Speaker 3: All right, parlaying off this, I have first stock down Rory and John Rahm. I just think that you know, when we when we look at this year for the last two three years, and I think for Rory, for like most of his career, he's lived in this world where it's like, yeah, I'm probably the best golfer in the world, or at least there's an argument. There's no clear best golfer in the world. And this year for John Ram and Rory mckill, John Rahm went to Live. He has not won on Live after winning quite a bit last year on the PGA Tour. I think seventy two holes helps better players separate. I think that it's not a coincidence that he hasn't won on a fifty four hole circuit A lot of times. You need that last eighteen if you're a really great player to that's what, you know, kind of pushes you over that edge more time more. Golf is always going to longer term as always going to favor better players. But anyways, Rory and John Rahm could win I think the next major and there's not a discussion about if they're the best player in the world. I think they could almost win two of the next three majors with what Scotty's done. If Scotty's in contention, I don't think that then there is a discussion of who the best player in the world is. And I think that's like a crazy thing, like Scotty's opened up this whole thing and they're stockdown. They haven't played. Neither of them played great this year. I mean, I say that, and Rory's got you know, the team win, which you know, you can put whatever salt you want on it. I don't. I don't really counted that much. And he's got the Dubai win. But the reality is these two guys that a lot of their identity as players have been I am the best player in the world. Have you have to imagine that they believe, they believe for a very long time they are the best player in the world. And I don't think either of them could look in the mirror and say I am the best golfer in the world right now. And I think that's kind of like a crazy thing for for you know, sublime supreme talents like these two players. 00:35:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, I only listed two stocks up and stocks down for each of these. I didn't have Rory, but I did have ram as my second biggest stock down. He hasn't finished outside the top ten on LIV so I mean it's not like it's been a disaster, but he's just been irrelevant. The that he finished at the Masters is his worst finish at a Master's through eight starts now in his career. He just hasn't done anything to enter the public consciousness really of where his golf game is. 00:36:09 Speaker 1: So I agree with you. It's an interesting point. 00:36:11 Speaker 2: If they were to win a major, let's say they were either of them or to win the PGA, would any of them have a claim to being the best golfer in the world or I don't think so. 00:36:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's I think Scotty could like miss the cut and it wouldn't matter. It's insane. I it's it's absolutely crazy. 00:36:30 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:36:30 Speaker 3: I think like if you think two months ago, what are how we would do this? What we be saying, I don't think it was like really a fathomable thing to say that without a doubt. Like we haven't been here in a really long time where it's very, very very very undeniably clear who the best player in the world is. 00:36:52 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:36:53 Speaker 2: I mean this time last year John Ram had won four times, including the Masters, and. 00:36:58 Speaker 3: It was like, is he the best player in the world? 00:37:01 Speaker 2: Completely different spot. This time around, he's been yeah, largely irrelevant, So I agree. I think his stock hasn't gone as far down as maybe some other players. Do you want me to get to my biggest stock down? Yeah, my biggest stock down. And maybe this is giving you flowers. 00:37:16 Speaker 1: Andy and not. 00:37:16 Speaker 2: I don't want to step on your take too much, but I think jordan' spif has the most has the biggest stock down of any player in professional golf this year. He is now outside the top twenty in the official World Golf rankings for the first time since July of twenty twenty one. He hasn't been relevant in a major since July of twenty twenty one, the Open Championship at Royal Saint George's. speF finished t four last year at the Masters, but it wasn't really competitive. He hasn't been in the mix at too many big golf tournaments. I mean there's been a PGA Tour event here and there, but Jordan's forty sixth in the FedEx Cup standings Andy were not You know, if a couple months don't go his way, he could be outside the top fifty and not exempt into signature events. He could also fall out of the top thirty in the official World Golf rankings, which is another pathway into the signature events. Like we're a couple of months away from Jordan Speith needing sponsor exemptions to get into the biggest events on the PGA Tour, which, to be clear, he would get all the sponsor exemptions he wants. 00:38:13 Speaker 3: But I think that's clear with what Web Simpson's been gone through that he's gonna get those spots absolutely. 00:38:20 Speaker 2: But Jordan Speath isn't young anymore and he's gone through a third in his career, So yeah, I think your take that he's just a guy has aged magnificently and it's hard to think about him as a top fifteen to twenty player in the world right now. He just missed the cut at Craig Ranch. 00:38:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think like outside of the Masters, I think I think like the one thing that's going to that gives speF hope and fans of speaf hope is two of the majors every year are going to fit his skill set pretty well. With the Open and the and the Masters, right those are golf courses that he can play around. But like for for the other two, I mean like the PGA and and the US Open, I mean, he's pretty far down my list of like players that are going to thrive. And I think it's it's just you. I think this is what like Ricky Fowler went through this, Ricky, this is this is the world of golf that we're in. Is that if you're not super long or like supreme supreme ball striking, like if you're not just like a supremely talented ball striker, you are going to be replaced by the younger general generation. Ricky Fowler had this happen in his career. He went from you know, I think Ricky when he came out. He was a long player. He was above average length. And when you become average, that becomes really hard to separate yourself. Then, like when you lose one of your skills, like when you lose one of your elites skills and it becomes maybe above average or an above average skill becomes average, it just makes you a good player. It's hard to be I think with the with the young talent, the distance that these guys are hitting it, how ready they are. I think golfs just you know, by virtue of technology, training, coaching, Golf's never been more simple, and so we're seeing it with Ludwig, who's one of my stock ups. Like you can come out on tour at age twenty two, never having seen the courses and compete. That used to not be the way the tour worked. It used to be, Hey, I've been around this place seven times, I've been here advantage. That advantage isn't the same. You know, I'll never forget what Jeff Ogilvie on this podcast said about track Man. It's like, you know, having a career that spanned across before and after track Man. You know, he used to say everybody. I think he said that everybody used to walk around on the range and talk about how they thought they found it. After track ban, everybody walks around the range knowing exactly what they need to do. And I think, like listen, like the game's gotten simpler, it's not as complex, and these careers are gonna be shorter and the tour is gonna be younger for the foreseeable future. So I think Jordan Speith, when you break out his career, he's probably a five year but he was a five year superstar, and that is a very great player in the long run. His five years just happened to be twenty one to twenty six. 00:41:44 Speaker 2: Andy kind of it's interesting you mentioned the whole optimization thing. One thing I've been thinking about is Speef that maybe I just need to dig into a little bit more. I think the game of golf has changed a ton since he came onto the scene. And one of the ways golfers are way smarter about the way they approach golf courses, like you kind of mentioned, they're not hitting into as many penalty hazards like Scotty's being very conscious about taking penalty hazards out of play. speF he hits these loose shots where he's hitting shots into penalty hazards. I think that costs you a lot more in twenty twenty four than it would have in twenty seventeen. And I think, yeah, these loose swings, like you're saying he's not an elite ball striker, and that once you lose a major skill like that, the game's kind of I don't want to say entirely passed speF by, but I think the days of him being a consistent weekend and week out golfer are gone. I mean, do you think it's likely that over the next five years Jordan speF gets back to being somebody who's on like one of the top five names on the odd sheet. 00:42:40 Speaker 3: I think he's I think he might pick off a major still, right, but I don't think I don't think you should he's even close to being, like, for me, a top ten guy in any major like he. I think the Masters is maybe the one where he rises up, and I could see him in the open getting around that ten spot. I think the other thing that has to be mentioned when you talk about speed, this policy board and all the stuff that's going on in the tour has not been good for anybody on the on the board outside of Peter Malnotty pulling off of fluke Win. But you know, you look at what what's going Can't is playing the worst golf of his last five years, Jordan Speed's playing bad golf. Rory has been entangled in this hasn't played good golf. It's just. 00:43:36 Speaker 1: I just. 00:43:39 Speaker 3: I think the off the course stuff is it has to be mentioned because all these guys are just playing bad golf. Like you know, Web Simpson wants off the policy board. He's playing the worst golf of his career. That could be aged, that could be a lot of things. But I think that I think these these guys need to understand they got to get something done, and they got to they got to get this distraction out because you know, at the end of the day, it's hurting their careers. 00:44:07 Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh do you want to get to your stock up? Yeah? Yeah. 00:44:12 Speaker 3: I got Wyndham Clark as one. I think like this time last year he was playing an opposite field event, and I think last year he wins to the US Open and and he won Wells Fargo. That was kind of his big win, which is this week that kind of set this all up and after the US Open, the question was like, what is he what is he going to be? Is he is he going to be a Fluke Major winner or is he going to be a is it going to be? Like this was the start of something? And early signs this year is this was the start of something. He has become a world class golfer, and I think the thing that I'm impressed with is just the variety he He has a lot of gas. I mean he is he is long. Like I don't you don't go watch golf where you you marvel at somebody else hitting a driver when they're playing with Rory McElroy Wyndham. Clark has the ability to hit it with the longest players in the game. And he's got he's a really good putter when you know it gets going like it so anyways, but the thing I'm like most impressed with is the variety of courses that he's winning at. He won Pebble, which was rain shortened. That's that's an iron test, right, That is a that is not a golf course. That is like just like very favorable the Bombers now it was it was soft. It probably helped out a little bit. He went to he comes in second to eight at API, which you would expect narrow fairly's thick rough, it's going to be very, very friendly to power hitters. But you know, he's he's been the guy that's stepped up and challenged Scheffler. He finished T two at the Player that is not a golf course you'd expect Wyndham Clark to play well at. Big misses are penalized heavily there. And he finishes T three at Harbortown, another golf course that you know, like these are these are like you those weeks if you put it, put him at a golf course that really played into his skill set, those weeks are probably wins. You know, he's playing a lot of variety in the golf courses really well, and I think like he's been super impressive. Obviously the miscut of the Masters was a bit of a bummer, but I think this guy's blossomed into one of the best players in the world and it's been it's been one of the fun things to watch. I think, like watching a guy put everything together. I mean, he's he's right around the same age as Speef and it's it's one of the beautiful things about about the game of golf is like you never know what age you're going to play your best golf at. You're just constantly working and everything comes together at different times. And where Speith was this young talent and everything we just talked about him, Wyndham Clark's like your your traditional golf late bloomer who's put together all the all of his game at a little bit later age than we're used to in this in this young youth driven era, and I'm curious to see how long it goes, like could we could he have a five really good years or is he gonna be three year? Is he gonna be three really good windom years? You know? But I can't think of a player outside of Skye Scheffler that's boosted their Scott stock in my eyes, more than Wyndham Clark. 00:47:33 Speaker 2: I think the most fun thing for me about watching Wyndham Clark. On top of him playing a fun style, he's really scrappy. 00:47:40 Speaker 1: He seems to. 00:47:40 Speaker 2: Want to win about as much as anybody out there. And I feel like there's so many golf super competitive Yeah, there's so many golfers in the modern era that seem to take the approach of you know, you can only control what you can control, and finishing tied for sixth, you know we'll get him next week. Wyndham takes a different approach. He really cares it, eats him alive. Followed him at Riviera and he was right on the cut line, ended up missing the cut. Every put that he missed, he was pissed off. And seeing that kind of passion, I think it's increasingly rare from top golfers in the world. So I just think he's a fun golfer to watch. Andy, Are you firmly you think Wyndham Clark two years from now? Are we are we talking about him as a top player. I'm not sure I'm there. 00:48:23 Speaker 3: I think that's what's what's I mean, we're a year in to him being I mean, outside of Scotty, has anybody impressed you more over the last calendar over the last you know, rolling calendar year. 00:48:35 Speaker 2: Ludvig, who you kind of mentioned, I think that's another one of your winners. I think Ludvig has impressed me as much as Wyndham Clark. 00:48:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, so like those two are like to me, like right behind Scotty. I think, like again, if you're if you're I think like the best way is, like, you know, it's a major championship. You're picking your guys like, hey, you know, we're teeing it up. Wherever where do they fall, they'd probably fall. I mean, you go Scotty, and then it's you know, I think they're all in the mix with Ron Rory Brooks. Which is that. I mean he was playing literally played an opposite field event about a year ago. 00:49:13 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. 00:49:16 Speaker 3: So yeah, he's up to three in the world, which I don't put a lot of stock in the world rankings, but you know, I think he'd be three, four or five if if if all the live guys were in there, he'd be a top five player. Which was you know that you don't see rises like that very often, and this guy's got all all the tools to be there for a while. 00:49:37 Speaker 2: Can I give you another guy that's risen quite significantly in the official old golf rankings and just in general's golf. So this is my other Scotty was my number one stock up. I think you can go with a lot of other names here, but I think Akha Batiya is what. 00:49:51 Speaker 3: I was looking at. I was looking at Aksha as one of these you want to. 00:49:55 Speaker 2: Talk about a meteoric rise. In twenty twenty two, he had twenty two starts on the corn Ferry Tour, missed thirteen cuts. Was not one of the best golfers in the world by any stretch of the imagination. Shortly ago, in twenty twenty four, he's been great. He has seven top twenties and twelve starts on the PGA Tour, including some strong fields. Won the Valero Texas Open, was excellent that week, distanced himself from the field significantly besides Danny McCarthy, who kind of hung with him till the end, made the cut in his master's debut. He's up to thirty third in the official World Golf Rankings, top twenty in the FedEx Cup standings. I mean, okshe Bat is only twenty two years old now, obviously turned professional at a really young age. He's kind of a he's not a superstar, but he's a legit tour player now and he's only twenty two. I think it's reasonable to talk about him as somebody with a very bright future, especially since he's figured out the putting since changing to that broomstick. I mean Ocuy's now gone from being an awful putter to being a good putter and the results have followed. So I think he's somebody to be excited about and has one of the big Guess stock movements, so to speak of the of this calendar year. 00:51:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, another name that we can relate here because I think it's just you know, you talk about the global nature of golf and growing the game. But another player of Indian descent that I had on my on my list working list was Saath the Gala, who's up to twelve in the world, and like, I think at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Saath was contending late in a major, which I think is like you know you're talking about it was a weird year when he was in college, but he was the real deal in college, he was, but it was the COVID year, so he never got to like they never played the national championship. That would would have been his big coming out party, and I think people obscure that. But with with Akshay, I think, like, what's what I've always believed with with players that turn pro at a really young age, and I think this is true with Woking Nieman. They they turn pro at a super young age and you forget how young they are because they've been around for a long time. And it's like, well, you know, like people are going crazy about about what uh you know, uh, you know some players do and it's like, well, you know, Joaquin nim is actually younger than him, you know, and he's done a lot. And I think that's where we're gonna be with Akshay in you know, three years. He should be a senior in college and look at what he's accomplished r A in the professional game, and like it's you know, listen, like everybody's going lud big crazy and I am. I'm fully on board with Ludwig. Ludwig's like twenty four. Akshay is two years younger than Ludvig, and age matters, Like when you discuss all this stuff, like he's still got two years of development that he is. He's behind Ludwig. Like it's not you know, I don't think he will get there. I think Ludwig's very very special, but like it's not unfathomable than two years Akshay has has more accomplishments than Ludwig, right, Like that's not out of the realm of possibilities. And I think that age age is just such a weird thing with with golf because it's like, you know, it's what we're we're talking about, like windows putting it all together. At twenty nine, you know, Ludwig has come out with everything together, and now the question is how far will it go? With ox Shay, It's like, Okay, this guy's really good at twenty two, what is he going to be at twenty five? Is that putter going to keep getting better? I imagine, like it seems to me, like the broomstick putters, they get better and better with it the longer they do it. I mean, like you think about it, it's a completely different way to put a ball, and like you're relearning how to putt effectively, and I think like that will be That's just something with this like unconventional putter craze that the tour is going through where you see all different styles of putters, and especially the long putters. It's like, how good are these guys with long putters five years in? Because it's it's it's a new form of putting. You're not you have to be getting better. I imagine the touch on long putts is going to get better. The accuracy on those ten to fifteen footers, like just getting set up to the ball, you're going to improve. Like, I think that's something to watch with these long putters is charting where these guys get to five years into it and like you know, making the switch, you know you get a bump right off the bat. But where can you do do we get to a point where a lot of the best putters in the world are long putters. 00:54:44 Speaker 2: It's not out of the realm of possibilities. Unfortunately, I don't love the aesthetic, but it's possible. I mean, he's game strokes, putting five straight events, like actually is actually a pretty good putter now, and Andy, when you're talking about the age thing and how we think of different golfers. One question that I had for you in the bank here this I already went through my two losers and Spiethan Rom, but I had one honorable mention here that you can infer who I'm going for here, somebody that's about the same age as Akshay. Would you take the future of Tom Kim or Aksha Batiya. 00:55:18 Speaker 3: Okha without a doubt? Me too, I think this is where, like, I don't know, I think people run with things and I I'm not I'm not saying I'm like fading Tom Kim's career, but I think like it it's super you have to be super careful anoyting guys. And I think Tom Kim won some soft events just in general. I mean there were It's impressive to do it at a really young age, but let's let's see some and I think, like it's where akha. It's exciting to see where he's going, but we need to see some stuff in some majors we need to, you know. And but with Tom But yeah, I take ok Shay like ten times in out of ten, and I could be wrong. You know, Tom Kim could he's a world class player. He's still like a very good player. Yeah, I think like I think, like the expectations of him being a top five player are a little short sighted, giving given the make makeup of his game and the struggles he's going to have keeping up with some players. 00:56:27 Speaker 1: I'm with you. 00:56:28 Speaker 2: I would also take oh, and to be fair, Tom Kim has actually been decent in major championships. But to your point, the wins were soft. It was at Windham two at Shriners like these are not the events that really translate to major championship success. And I think with Akha, I'm getting major Bubba vibes. I don't think it's just the lefty thing, like the way he can shape the ball both directions. He's a lot of shots off the tee. So I think there's some reasons to be pretty bullish on the future of a Shat. 00:56:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. 00:56:59 Speaker 3: We've talked about Ludwig a little bit. He's one of my ups. I think like I had Jordan as a down too, so I'm kind of we kind of have some overlap here. But I mean, I think the world's lud BIG's oyster right now. To me, if you were going to compile a list of players that could unseat Scotty Shuffler as the top player in the game, right now, he's near the top. 00:57:26 Speaker 1: How do you feel, right the single biggest threat to Scotty. 00:57:33 Speaker 3: I mean, he's just the golf swings so simple, so good. The driving is prolific, and I think as he continues to work on that around, I think he just needs a little more polish. I do think like Scotty being arguably the greatest player around the green, so you could I think you put him with like camp Smith and you know, Jordan and some other player Patrick Reid around the greens, like that's the stuff that wins majors more so than I I like, you know, getting up and down when you really need it is just such a great skill when the golf gets really hard. So to me, I don't know what Ludwig needs to do to kind of polish that game up. I don't know if it's seeing it, getting a short game coach in there, but that's the last step he needs. 00:58:31 Speaker 1: I'm with you. 00:58:31 Speaker 2: I mean, I'd say probably John Rahm is the closest to Scotty and in terms of unseating him as the top player in the world. But after that, for me, it'd probably be lud Big, lud Big or Rory. And honestly, Ludgig's around the greenplay hasn't been terrible, it's not as consistent. He's nowhere near on the level of Scotti Scheffler, so it'd be interesting to see what he does there. But Ludwig and he would PG championship if it's not If you're not taking Scotty, who's the name right after that, like, where's lud Big for you? 00:59:03 Speaker 3: It's got to be top five, right, Yeah? Yeah, I think he's he's top five. I you know, I think like it's it's it's a mixture of players. You know, a lot of them we've we've touched on here. But you know, like, who's whose game? Do you like more? Ludbigs or ROMs? I think that are really similar. Actually, I like Rom's game more. 00:59:27 Speaker 1: I don't want to disrespect Rom. 00:59:28 Speaker 2: I mean, he's anytime he doesn't look like he's necessarily the best player in the world, he kind of offers a reminder that he's got magical short game, an elite driver. I mean, John Rom's so well rounded that I think he's still a step ahead of love Big. 00:59:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. I think I think like rom Is is clearly, clearly still a step above and I think that's where I would just I would just caution. I think, like the expectations for lud Big are super high because of how he handled the Masters. We're gonna see him play his second major in two weeks, in a week like second major, so let's just let's see how it goes. But I think like it's hard to have them outside the top five. 01:00:13 Speaker 1: Agree, did we get through your life? Yeah? 01:00:16 Speaker 3: I got through most of it. Do you have any others you want to touch on? I had JT is stocked down. I think that I think that. Listen, like last year it was a really bad year for JT and this year is a little bit better. But I don't I think that we're at this point where it's like kind of getting to a similar vein with speed of what is he I just when I compare him to a player like Ludwig or now even Wyndam Clark, it feels like a pretty good gap between JT and Wyndham Clark as their games are made up, just watching like the the eye test beyond just you know, I think JT when it looks good, it's great. But like this is the thing. He went from being a very long player too. He's like pretty middle of the road now with distance, and that's that's hard. Like his game when he was when he was coming on, when he when he was this young new talented player, like power was like one of the first things that you brought up. Power and then the iron play and the power it just isn't isn't there anymore, and I think that explains why he's, you know, just above average player at this point. 01:01:37 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:01:38 Speaker 2: Similar vein with Tom Kim not to put these two in the same sentence necessarily, but you want to talk about soft setups, I mean Justin Thomas hasn't really done anything in a setup that's difficult in like a year now. I mean, his his good finishes are Harbor Town AMX, I mean, here's a lot of wedge driver, wedge right, Fortinet travel. Last year, I mean major championships, he was really bad, and he was bad at the Masters this year Like this is we're pretty far removed from seeing Justin Thomas display dominance off the t in good long iron play. So I'm not super bullish on him. 01:02:13 Speaker 3: I mean, if you take and you can't do this, it's not fair to do this. I mean, he won the PGA Championship at Southern Hills, But if you look past the PGA Championship and you go back to twenty twenty one, he's got one outside of that PGA Championship, He's got one top ten in in thirteen starts in majors. 01:02:40 Speaker 1: It's fair. 01:02:40 Speaker 2: I think it's kind of fair to do that. Thirteen isn't insignificant. 01:02:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, now in that in that same stretch twenty twenty one, he does have a players too, So I want to I want to be fair to that, but I think like he's never been a I guess it's like what I think about with the world's best players. I think what I'm marvel at is the consistency, and he's never been a consistent He's never been truly a consistent player, like where week in week out he is, he's on the board, and I think like that consistency is just getting like he's becoming more and more inconsistent as he ages. 01:03:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen he was fairly consistent, but it's been it's been a long time at least since weekend and week out he's been. 01:03:32 Speaker 3: I mean putting top ten twenty twenty four. 01:03:34 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. 01:03:36 Speaker 2: Not to throw a complete Curveballyandy, but I'm talking about Jordan Speeth and Justin Thomas. They kind of seem probably like they're going to be running team USA Ryder Cup. Isn't that at this point, Like shouldn't it shouldn't we be talking about that more as like a Scottie Scheffler. I mean, he hasn't been amazing, But would you feel super comfortable with Team USA's in the hands of Jordan Speeth and Justin Thomas. 01:04:03 Speaker 3: I think they should be probably more established people that you know are going to be qualifiers. You know, I don't think the people running the team should be should be captain's picks, and I think last year they were both captain's picks. And it seems to me that if you just kind of take a scan through the American World rankings and you know, they both seem to be heading towards needing captain picks again, So do you think that is who should be you know, the vocal you know people running the team. 01:04:36 Speaker 2: Right, if you fast forward fifteen years, it almost feels like a certainty that they'll be involved in as vice captains are potentially captains fifteen twenty years down the line. I think it'll be reasonable to look back on that and wonder if they're the best selections. 01:04:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, that does it for stock up stock down. Let us know if who we missed, who you'd put in there. But uh, let's get to recommendate. What's your recommendation this. 01:05:03 Speaker 1: One's maybe a little out there, but hopefully practical. Andy. 01:05:06 Speaker 2: So we were trying to I was with a group of friends recently trying to watch it decide what movie to watch, and somebody suggested giving chat GPT, the AI tool artificial intelligence chat based tool, just giving it some movies you like and having it recommend you five or six movies back. And it was a wonderful experience. It gave phenomenal recommendations that we all agreed on quickly reached a consensus. So of all the pie in the sky potential use cases for AI, this is a practical one and I would recommend it if you're struggling to figure out a movie or a show, throw some movies and shows that you like into the prompt and have it recommend you stuff back. 01:05:46 Speaker 1: It was excellent. 01:05:49 Speaker 3: That's a great, great idea. I've been the missus and I have been on like a nineties movie kick and we've just been looking up movies that we watch, you know, twenty years ago, or movies that we never watched as you know, high schoolers or you know, whatever it may be, and we've been like, it's been great. I mean, the movies have been amazing, we watched Talented Mister Ripley, which I hadn't seen in years, because I think it's this all started because there's that new show Ripley and it was great. So now we've just like carried it on. We just watched Days and Confused. Again. It's been a long time, but I think, like, I like that idea. I'm going to try it out actually because we you know, we're trying to find more nineties movies to watch. But my recommendation will be more like health and wellness. I got this tip about like kind of transitioning from work back into the house, and I think it's like actually extremely easy achievable and it works. Everybody talks about meditation, I think by it takings hard. I want to get into it, but it is just a difficult I don't know. It's the simplest thing, oftentimes the simplest things in the world. Somebody explain to me once, studying is just sitting in a chair and reading. When you think about it that way, it's super super easy meditation sitting in a chair and breathing. But somebody gave me a tip of just when you transition from say work or something to going back into the house, and I think this applies to a lot of people that work in the house. Now I've been doing just five deep breaths before going transitioning, and it really resets me. It's done wonders for me, being able to detach myself and be present when I move from one space to the one part of life to another part of the life. And it's super easy. It takes thirty seconds, you know, five deep breaths, breathing through your nose, breathe out through your mouth, and it, Like I I was, I've been shocked at how big of a difference it makes when you try and move. And what I've noticed is that, like I've started to use it in more situations, like when I'm you know, just trying to get ready to go do something. It's amazing. It's really amazing what what just good deep breathing can do for you. 01:08:23 Speaker 2: A lot of elite athletes focus on that, a lot of breathing exercises in big moments. So I'm it's not something I do, but maybe I'll try it out this week. 01:08:31 Speaker 3: I mean try, honestly, like just five deep breaths. It's it's so achievable, it's it's extraordinarily easy, it takes very little time, and I think it makes a lot of difference. 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