Hour 3 – Bad Pitching vs. Good Pitching, Ross Tucker

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Speaker 2: The World Series odds or Blue Jays or minus two forty They were plus one sixty yesterday, the Dodgers plus two hundred. They were minus one ninety five yesterday. World Series MVP odds Vlad Guerrero minus two oh five show, Hey plus two thirty. I would probably put some money down on Yamamoto, who is going to go in game six. If he throws another complete game and sends it to a game seven and maybe wins it three to one, doesn't get the offensive support, but you know, wins the game, maybe he could be your MVP of the Dodgers. Would happen to win if the Blue Jays win, it feels like it's Vlad Guerrero Junior, And rightfully so. He has been unbelievable, and I think we've gotten to the point. If you're the Dodger pitching staff, I would be very careful.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be pitching to him.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes you see these pitches and you go, how could you throw that pitch?

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Speaker 8: Now?

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Speaker 2: Former pitcher who listens to the show wrote, remain nameless. He'd be like, you make it seem like we know where the ball's going all the time. I said, but you can't make a mistake like that to that guy. You can't make that mistake. You can make mistakes or you can go, man, that's unbelievably. He hit that ball out of the park. It can't be I'm not surprised that he hit the ball out of the ballpark. That was my point to him, and we got.

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Speaker 3: Back and forth.

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Speaker 2: He goes, oh, yeah, you've thrown off the mound when you throw out a first pitch.

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Speaker 3: I go, I used to deal in high school.

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Speaker 2: Man, don't be telling me that I don't pitch from the front of the mound when I throw out the first pitch. But you can't make that mistake that bad. These are professionals. Your job is to not throw it right down the middle of the plate. There's no picture. Who goes, Yep, I'm gonna throw it right down the middle of the plate. You're always high, low in out, brushing back a little to something. But blake snow when you throw that pitch, and it's like you deserve that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Pauline Smaltz was actually talking about that last night. He says, Pitcher's throwing above ninety five. They're yielding control because of that. I think it's Henriquez, the reliever for the Dodgers. He throws hundred all the time, and it was all over the place last night because he says, you're holding it so tight to throw a hundred, you're giving up a little bit of control on those pitches.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Todd.

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Speaker 10: I feel like to us it looks like an ego thing. Why are you challenging him, Why you're gonna let him beat you.

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Speaker 9: But as you.

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Speaker 10: Were just saying that, that's a mistake, that's not where they intended the pitch to go. And you know, to try to throw it one hundred miles an hour from where you're throwing it from.

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Speaker 8: The little millimeter of a difference is a difference than to strike got in a home run.

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Speaker 2: But some of these pitches are right over the plate and they're going to hit anything. They can hit speed, they can hit one hundred miles an hour. They have a hard time when it's moving, when it's down, where it's inside, it's outside, it's up, you know all of those things. But if you throw it right down the middle of the plate, these guys, everybody's going up there to try to hit it out of the park. And you deserve it, Blake Snell, deserve that because those are pitches.

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Speaker 3: Those are meatballs.

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Speaker 2: As we like to say, Uh, Tray, you savage, you know you send him out there. Sometimes what you don't know can make you better. Like you're in the Miners four months ago, and now you're pitching a pivotal Game five in the World Series, and you had one of the most impressive performances that we've ever seen. I mean, he struck out twelve. I don't think you walk to anybody. And when you get guys to swing and miss like that says a lot about your stuff, because you can get guys who take pitches and you're like, Okay, that was a good pitch. I get to I think I'm gonna hit you. So he has thirty nine strikeouts in the postseason. That breaks the record for a rookie set by the Cardinals Michael Waka. That was in twenty thirteen. He struck out eleven. In Game two the Alds against the Yankees, he had twenty three whiffs, so swings and misses. That's the most in the World Series game since they started tracking that a No.

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Speaker 3: Nine.

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Speaker 2: That's when you got great stuff. And I remember Tim Linsekem it was Game five of the twenty ten World Series. He had one of those games where twenty one whiffs. Justin Berlander had one of those in twenty nineteen Game five. But that's when you're striking out twelve over seven innings, three hits, strikeouts, a record for a rookie in the World Series, breaking the old mark of Don Newcomb in nineteen forty nine. Eleven eleven.

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Speaker 8: I love that number.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Chyle.

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Speaker 2: That's why you should love the show Stranger Things because her name's eleven Millie Bobby Brown, and I like Jalen Brunson.

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Speaker 3: Eleven. Jalen Brunson. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I was watching The Inside the NBA with Shaq and Kenny Charles Ernie and Shaq had an afro on last night. I guess he was making fun of Jalen Brown because I tuned in and I just saw the afro.

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Speaker 3: They probably mentioned it before.

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Speaker 2: He should have painted his head the top of his head like Jalen Brown is done. But then Jalen Brown, I guess he decided he was going to shave his head, like he's got a good looking head. Who cares if you're bald? Yeah, exactly, Thank you Todd. You haven't shaved your head.

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Speaker 9: I have not, but I've been told many times at it's time to do that.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to, you know, I don't know what's.

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Speaker 9: Just like a San Diego Padres mascot.

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Speaker 11: That is true.

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Speaker 3: That, that is true. The monk.

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Speaker 4: You're being told you have to shave your head.

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Speaker 10: Well, I think Barkley said, like years ago, tell if Britzy you should come on home and get rid of me bald.

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Speaker 7: Remember he said that, Yeah, he used to keep your hair long, even though it's in the same shape that it is now.

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Speaker 4: But it feels it feels pretty shaven right now.

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Speaker 9: Besides, definitely you're keeping it pretty close.

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Speaker 2: So sometimes you'll see those guys who have really long hair but nothing on top, but they they'll wear a baseball hat and it comes out the back, or they got a little ponytail there.

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Speaker 8: Not hot, no, not a good look.

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Speaker 2: But it's tough, you know, because I remember my wife we were talking to one of our friends was going bald, and she was like, why is it such a big deal to guys?

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Speaker 3: He said, it's a huge deal to guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, losing your hair when you have a good head of hair, and all of a sudden you realize, I'm going to hold onto this for dear life.

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Speaker 3: Then what do you do you get it to pay?

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Speaker 2: Do you do some of those whatever those drugs that you can take that's going to grow it, dig transplants in there.

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Speaker 3: Thank god, I don't have to worry about it, Yes, Pauli.

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Speaker 6: And if it's after forty, it's kind of assumed or it could be hereditary. But I knew a guy in college who was losing his hair at twenty one.

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Speaker 5: I mean it was going bad fast.

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Speaker 6: He looked about thirty six years old as a senior in college, and that's not fair to anybody.

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Speaker 2: I work with somebody at the Mothership who wasn't on the air, and he was going gray at like twenty six, and I remember him saying, you think I should diet?

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Speaker 3: I go no, no, no, women all love that.

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Speaker 4: Losing weight's not going to help you anyway. Diet I got it.

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Speaker 3: Die die die it. Yeah. Maybe he was saying, you know, go on a diet.

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Speaker 2: You are a little Choby, the executive producer for Sandler. One time I was doing the six o'clock Sports Center and I was dyeing my hair, culling my hair, and he texted me during the show and he said he just put d y E. That was it, Jack Garraputo. Probably not a compliment, No, it was it, because you know, if you're trying to do it with these new TVs, as good as they are, you can't hide anything.

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Speaker 4: That's a fellow that scared of sharing an opinion too.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Jack's a jerk.

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Speaker 4: Jackj'll he'll tell you things you don't want to hear.

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but he's he's been with Sandman all those movies for decades. Yeah, he would tell you. He would tell you he was you know, I would say, hey, how is my performance? He goes, it's okay, it's just okay, you're not an actor, and I go, okay, oh yeah, see.

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Speaker 4: He is the guy.

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Speaker 7: When we were shooting, that's my boy, and he said, if you see me, that means things are going very poorly.

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Speaker 4: And we're like, okay, all right.

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Speaker 3: No problem.

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Speaker 4: So he was and he was being nice.

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Speaker 7: He was trying to like be like, hey, hype us up, but look, if you see me, then things are going very very bad. And we did exactly one take that lasted about twenty seconds and he came flying out.

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Speaker 9: From one thing that was not fun.

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Speaker 4: He just said, Fritzy, you're terrible.

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Speaker 10: All I how to do was point the camera the direction where the action was, and somehow I had it on some.

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Speaker 9: Kind of slant.

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Speaker 2: Well, you you you weren't even focusing on what you were He said, hey, focus the camera on you know, Susan Sarandon and Sandman.

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Speaker 10: And I think I got caught up in the moment when he goes accially, I'm like, I think that's Rachel dretchback there, and I'm.

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Speaker 9: Like, that's not what you're supposed to be looking at.

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Speaker 8: You got to look forward.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, pretend you're an actual camera person.

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Speaker 2: So that's the first scene that we have in the prison, first scene or first time we're doing it, first take, and all of a sudden, I see Jack Garaputo run out from you know, so my side, my peripheral vision, I go, oh no, And I didn't know what we did wrong. And all of a sudden he yells at Fritzy. Now everybody's there. So you got Sandman, Andy Samberg, you got Susan Sarandon.

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Speaker 3: They're all there, like these are real actors.

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Speaker 2: I was going to attention line line. I just need a line line and then we have line. He gave Todd one thing to do. That was it point the camera at where the action is.

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Speaker 9: Seems fairly simple.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And you got yelled at.

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Speaker 9: Found a way to make extremely complicated.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, oh my god, what an experience.

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Speaker 10: Though, Oh take it from the top, maybe Fritzi a point the camera the right direction.

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Speaker 9: This stuf. Okay, let's not make it a whole thing.

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Speaker 2: There are moments though, where you go are we fooling anybody? Does Andy Samberg know because he even said, He goes, hey, you're good at this, and I go, well thanks. He goes, no, I'm surprised, I said, you have every right to be surprised.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Paul.

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Speaker 6: So we're extras in this movie and we're not supposed to do much. We're not supposed to talk or interact because we got to be low key. But in between one of the shots, I'm sitting there a seating and at any a sailor stand there and there's a lot of downtime and he just turns through us.

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Speaker 5: He goes, what do you think of the Knicks this year? They're gonna be any good? He's just chit chatting to fill time, and we're being civil. We're just like, yeah, well.

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Speaker 6: They're a pretty good team. And Susan Sarandon, the actress, is looking at us like, why are the two extras talking to the star.

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Speaker 2: She had no idea who I was less than none, no idea.

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Speaker 3: What was going on.

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Speaker 2: And there was this awkward moment where she's on the other side of the glass. So we're in a prison and Sandman was going to be talking to her through the glass, and I just remember it was me and Susan Sarandon and nobody else, and there was silence. I didn't know what to say, and she certainly had nothing to say to me.

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Speaker 7: Yes, see, I have never seen anyone better at avoiding eye contact than Susan Sarandon with dozens of people, than Susan Sarandon, because she.

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Speaker 4: You know, oh she is someone that when she is in a room, you.

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Speaker 3: Notice her, Yes you do.

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Speaker 4: She was spectacular.

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Speaker 7: And I was definitely staring at her, for sure, and she did such a remarkable job of not making contact with anybody, let alone me.

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Speaker 3: She must be used to that, yes, Dodd.

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Speaker 10: I was hoping when I saw that too, that she was just super focused on her craft as opposed to being like one of those you can't look at her right in the eye and like you get these you know things about agent Trump was just saying you can't look at her or talk to her or approach this person.

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Speaker 7: Well, she wasn't not nice. Yeah, she didn't like we didn't get any heads up like that. She wasn't being rude, She just wasn't going to indulge me and staring at her.

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Speaker 2: And Sandler thinks everybody knows everybody, and you know that. Of course Susan Sarandon would know you know you guys. And she had no idea and I had I had no game to just say hey, and then what am I gonna? I loved you in bull Durham. I thought you deserved it.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I did say this later and she said, that's very sweet of you, because I said you deserved an Academy Award nomination for Bull Durham.

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Speaker 3: You were unbelievable. And she said that's very sweet. And then that was there wasn't anything not bad.

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Speaker 8: Take it.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a great line, Like I thought it because I really feel that whenever Costner I'm seeing him, I always say, God, Sarandon was so great in bul Durham.

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Speaker 5: Maybe you should tell Costner he was so great in Bulderam.

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Speaker 3: You should tell Costner he was great in Bulderham.

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Speaker 2: He was, Yeah, but back when he was a good actor apparently peak of his career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: See, that's actually the trick though, is acting like they should know you, like somebody like Susan Sarandon or whatever. It's like oh yeah, like no, yeah, you're supposed to know me. That's why this person is introducing you. So it's actually on you for not Oh yeah. Like like one time I was at a Super Bowl party and Chrissy Teagan and John Legend walk by, and Chrissy Teagan gave me a big hug and then she turned and she went Kim you know seton right and Kim Kardashian, And I was like, hey.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Kim, how you doing?

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Speaker 4: And She's like, hey, no idea.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, why in the world would she know.

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Speaker 7: But Chrissy Tiga was like, Kim, you know Seaton right, of course you don't.

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Speaker 4: Obviously you know me. Kim Kardashian, what the hell?

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Speaker 3: What's the same thing?

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Speaker 8: You know?

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Speaker 2: When I was on the set when Aniston was there, and then Sandler goes, uh, Aniston, you know, Danny, Danny sports guy, She's like, hey, sports guy. So she was every time she saw me, she was like, hey sports guy.

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Speaker 3: So that was it. Hey sports guys. Hey friends.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Rachel, when they need a sports guy on the morning show. Hello, I don't think they have the uh And here's Chuck with sports.

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Speaker 3: Don't Yeah, they don't have a sports guy.

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Speaker 4: On season five?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Reese Witherspoon, love interests, Billy Crudup. I watched the show. Maybe I swoop in and I'm a bad.

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Speaker 4: Guy anchoring sports, but gunning for the desk.

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Speaker 2: I'm gunning for the co anchor. Yeah. I can do weather as well. Oh no, they have a weather guy on there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Oh yick maybe Yanko, Yank Yanko.

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Speaker 8: That's it.

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Speaker 3: That was Todd's nickname in high school.

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Speaker 2: Ravens favored by seven and a half at the Dolphins over under fifty one and a half. We'll talk to Ross Tucker coming up. Who do you think is slated to have more passing yards tonight? Lamar Jackson or tuit tongue of Iloa. If you said Lamar Jackson, you would be correct to thirty six and a half. The over under is to eighteen and a half passing yards. Also the odds to win the AFC North. The Ravens are still favored to win the AFC North minus one thirty the Steelers plus one sixty. Uh wink in Illinois, Hey wink, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 8: What's that?

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Speaker 9: dB?

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Speaker 8: Hey?

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Speaker 5: But hey, hey, just got two quick things.

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Speaker 3: First.

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Speaker 13: Let's hear what what.

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Speaker 11: The hell was I going to say?

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Speaker 3: I'll call you back link.

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Speaker 2: Uh, let's see Lennon Minnesota.

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Speaker 13: Hey, Dan, how you doing great, lifelong fan and lifelong Minnesota fan, and uh, I don't know what you guys can do to encourage me during this long winter. Our football teams in a little disarray, hockey teams kind of sad, and the Pols that's kind of it, And uh, I don't know what to do. Okay. And then the other quick thing is, I think your retirement, you're hooked in the peacock all the Law and Order shows. You're going to be a judge and the script is pretty easy, overruled, sustained, approach, the bench and my favorite my chambers.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I don't know if I'll have a lot of acting opportunities when I retire, and just feel like it'll be Adam Sandler reaching out to me when he does an occasional movie.

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Speaker 3: But thank you for thinking of me.

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Speaker 4: Judge is a good look though. I could see that. I could see the transition from walking the beat to.

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Speaker 10: Okay, Yes, Ton, would you consider having a casting agent, someone to reach out for possible opportunities and just rather wait to see who may find you?

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Speaker 2: Well, we're on in Los Angeles every morning, so I'm and I guess the Hollywood types would know when that guy retires, we're going to I'm going to go after him.

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Speaker 3: They've seen my work. They're familiar.

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Speaker 4: Three episode arc.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's fine. I would do it. I'd do that.

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Speaker 7: Maybe a crossover event when Chicago p D, Chicago FD in Chicago m D set.

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Speaker 3: Together on a Wednesday night crossover event.

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Speaker 5: Officer Johnson, what are you doing here?

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Speaker 3: I would actually like to walk that.

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Speaker 2: They would show me walking off this set to get to the other set for you know, the crossover that I would walk right at like you know, eight fifty nine fifty and then I would be walking over Firewalker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Ross there, Ross Tucker Football podcast. You can follow him on social media at Ross Tucker. And he has the Army Air Force game on Saturday. Then he will be in Tennessee. It'll be the Titans and the Chargers kicking off at one eastern. Busy man, let me start with tonight, Ross Raven's favored by seven and a half. That number surprise you at all.

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Speaker 14: A little bit? A little bit it does. I'll tell you why a couple different reasons. Number One, the Dolphins looked really good on Sunday. I don't know if that had more to do with the Dolphins or the Falcons just laying an egg, but you still had a team on the road against a decent opponent, and the Falcons and the Dolphins took him to the woodshed. Now they're playing at home on a Thursday night, and think about what we've seen in recent weeks from some of these road teams on Thursday nights. It hasn't been pretty. You know, the Steelers defense a couple of weeks ago against the Bengals, they weren't able to hold up.

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Speaker 8: You know, we've seen a lot of weeks now where the road team.

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Speaker 14: On these short weeks has not been up to the Vikings last week against the Chargers, I called that game for Wester one.

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Speaker 8: That was a disaster. And then the Lamar Jackson factor.

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Speaker 14: Dan, I know he's playing, I know that's why the Ravens are big favorites, but he wasn't healthy enough to play four days ago. They didn't play him four days ago in a game they desperately needed. So you just wonder, you know, is he one hundred percent? Can he be full throttle with that hamstring? So it does surprise me a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, can Mike McDaniel win his way out of this mess and save his John.

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Speaker 8: I doubt it.

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Speaker 14: I mean, he can you know if they went out the rest of the season.

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Speaker 8: Sure, Do I think that's gonna happen?

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Speaker 14: No, I think it's surprising that they were able to play as well as they did against the Falcons.

00:24:02
Speaker 8: I gotta be honest with Dan.

00:24:03
Speaker 14: I kind of thought, I don't want to say that those guys had packed it in, but I kind of thought the Dolphins number one were going to be sellers at the trade deadline, and they still might be with edge rushers like Jalen Phillips or Bradley Chubb.

00:24:18
Speaker 8: But also it felt like everybody.

00:24:21
Speaker 14: Knew that Mike m daniel was getting fired and that Steven Ross just wasn't doing it because he didn't want to take the chance that the interim head coach would have.

00:24:31
Speaker 8: A lot of success.

00:24:32
Speaker 14: Yeah, and that they would feel compelled to hire him. But it kind of felt like Mike McDaniel was a dead man walking.

00:24:39
Speaker 8: He probably still is.

00:24:41
Speaker 14: So kudos to the Dolphins players and leaders for the way they.

00:24:44
Speaker 8: Played on Sunday.

00:24:46
Speaker 14: I mean, they fought for him if that's why they were playing, and I guess you know that they still are keeping this thing alive if they can get some momentum.

00:24:53
Speaker 8: I doubt it, but we'll find out.

00:24:55
Speaker 2: The Falcons, and I've used this comparison and maybe it's unfair, but they're kind of the Chargers of the East Coast or the South where we every year we go.

00:25:04
Speaker 3: Man, they got weapons. Man, they're going to be good.

00:25:07
Speaker 8: Now.

00:25:08
Speaker 2: I know the Chargers have had injuries, but I don't. I mean, how do you explain the Falcons.

00:25:14
Speaker 8: I can't. I can't mean.

00:25:16
Speaker 14: They lost thirty to nothing to the kill and the Panthers earlier in the year. You know, Dan, I have a betting podcast, the Even Money Betting Podcast.

00:25:25
Speaker 8: The Falcons are banned that they're on my band list. Now, Okay.

00:25:29
Speaker 14: Every time I'm like, oh, I start to believe in the Falcons and I place a bet on them on the show, they end up totally laying an.

00:25:38
Speaker 8: Egg out of nowhere that you're not expecting. So they're on the band list.

00:25:43
Speaker 14: You know what, I really don't understand if you ask the running backs around the NFL, and look, Jonathan Taylor is have an amazing year, but you talk with like Saquon and some of these guys, they are blown away by jon Robinson.

00:25:58
Speaker 8: That should be the folk point of the Falcons offense every week.

00:26:04
Speaker 14: They should do with Bijon what Kyle Shanahan does with Christian McCaffrey. And yet there will be these games like this past Sunday, where did Bijon have get the ball seven times in the game. I mean, that should just never ever happen. And I don't know how the Falcons allow it to.

00:26:24
Speaker 2: You got the Chiefs against the Bills, and I know we want to make this a rivalry. It was kind of like the Red Sox and Yankees many many years ago when the Yankees kept beating the Red Sox, and I said, it's not a rivalry until the Red Sox win. Buffalo can win the regular season, but this is an a rivalry until you win in the postseason, in my opinion, you agree, I do agree.

00:26:47
Speaker 14: You know, it reminds me of when I was playing. This is Peyton Manning and the Colts against Tom Brady and the Patriots. They could not get over the hump. They would you know, the Colts would win the regular season sometimes, but then in the playoffs when it mattered, New England would just always find a way to get it done. And it looked like that was going to be the case in the two thousand and six AFC Championship Game, and then the Colts said enough was enough and they made enough plays to win that game and then go on to win the Super Bowl. I thought maybe that would be the case with the Bills in the postseason last year.

00:27:23
Speaker 8: I thought it was a great opportunity. They weren't able to do.

00:27:25
Speaker 14: It, you know, and on some token, you know, do you know the Bills have beaten the Chiefs in the regular season every year but one, and then the Chiefs beat the Bills in the playoffs.

00:27:36
Speaker 8: So on the one hand, Dan, I think some Bills fans probably.

00:27:39
Speaker 14: Look at it and say, you know what, I'd rather lose to them in the regular.

00:27:43
Speaker 8: Season, give us the better chance in the playoffs.

00:27:45
Speaker 14: The problem with that is the Bills now have competition in their own division and.

00:27:51
Speaker 8: They haven't had it in a while.

00:27:53
Speaker 14: And now they're going to be fighting, you know, tooth and nail to the death now again against the New England Patriots. So they can't afford to lose this game and say we'll beat him in the playoffs. You lose this game, now you're looking up even further at the Patriots in the standings.

00:28:11
Speaker 2: We're talking to Ross Tucker the Ross Tucker Football Podcast, and you can follow him at Ross Tucker NFL.

00:28:18
Speaker 3: You've got an.

00:28:19
Speaker 2: Air force in Army on noon at noon Eastern on Saturday. Then you get on a flight and you go to Tennessee for the Titans and the Chargers. I've said this, I'm kind of on the warpath with this. If cam Ward had a better social following, you know, like if he was more popular, I think people would be talking more about how bad he's played, sort of like they did with Caleb Williams, because Caleb Williams had a you know, he got clicks. Cam Ward doesn't get clicks, but he's the number one overall pick in the draft. And I find that interesting that if Caleb Williams was in Tennessee and was having these numbers, we'd be rushing Caleb Williams. We don't even talk about cam Ward of the Titans.

00:29:04
Speaker 14: Why, you know, I don't know the answer to that, but I wonder that myself. I think a big part of it. He was really only on the college football scene for one year. You know what he did at Incarnate Word, Nobody even knew about what he did at Washington State. You know, people really weren't paying attention. Most people didn't know who cam Ward was until he was playing last year for the Miami Hurricanes, whereas Caleb Williams was the number one high school player in the country.

00:29:40
Speaker 8: He made a bunch of plays as a true.

00:29:42
Speaker 14: Freshman in Oklahoma, including in the game against Texas. Then he goes to USC, wins the Heisman his second year, is the presumptive number one pick. Even Shador Sanders got a lot more attention and a lot more clicks than cam Ward. He it's just kind of been under the radar. And then he didn't go to a big market team. He didn't go to the Bears or an LA team, or the Giants or the Jets.

00:30:09
Speaker 8: He went to the Titans.

00:30:10
Speaker 14: This combination of a guy that's been overshadowed in college by the Caleb Williams and Jayden Daniels and even shod Or Sanders, and then he goes to a team that's not good at all in one of the smallest markets in the NFL, you know, and people don't talk about him much.

00:30:27
Speaker 8: And I think that's why it's going under the radar. What I don't know.

00:30:31
Speaker 14: And I'm curious about is if we had flipped Caleb.

00:30:35
Speaker 8: Williams and cam Ward, so cam Ward's.

00:30:38
Speaker 14: In a major market like Chicago, Caleb Williams is in Tennessee, certainly it would they would be a little bit closer.

00:30:46
Speaker 8: But I still don't know how much.

00:30:49
Speaker 2: The Lions got that blueprint of that. You know, they're they're signing up people before it's time for you know, that bill to be paid. They've done that with golf, they did that with the penny Sewell, they do that with Aiden Hutchinson.

00:31:03
Speaker 13: Here.

00:31:04
Speaker 2: That's a big number for Aiden Hutchinson. That catch your attention.

00:31:09
Speaker 14: It's a huge number. Two things caught my attention. Number One, this is very rare in the NFL. He benefited from getting hurt. He did because if if Hutchinson doesn't get hurt, Dan they signed him shortly after the season because he's after his third year so they can give him an extension. And that's what they've been doing with these core guys that they really like, and rightfully so.

00:31:37
Speaker 8: But because he got hurt, I think they wanted to see how he came back from injury. They wanted to wait a little bit.

00:31:44
Speaker 14: Well, In the meantime, Crosby got a new deal, Miles Garrett got a new deal, TJ. Watt got a new deal, and then Micah Parson set the bar really high. So Hutchinson is one of the only guys I've ever seen that benefited from a really bad injury.

00:32:01
Speaker 8: As in terms of the way the Lions.

00:32:03
Speaker 14: Are going about it, they're getting a lot of credit for it. Dan, It's the Eagles model that the Eagles basically invented this, which is, as soon as you know one of the guys you drafted is a core guy that you went around for the long term, you sign him as soon as possible because then you spread the cap pain over the entire length of deal. So let's talk about Hutchinson. Right, he has half a year left on the fourth year of his rookie deal. They had already picked up his fifth year option, so then you tag on those four years.

00:32:39
Speaker 8: He just signed to year six, seven, eight, and nine.

00:32:43
Speaker 14: Right, So it's a big number, but the cap pain will be spread out over five and a half years, including the big signing bonus now.

00:32:55
Speaker 8: As opposed to just the four year extension.

00:32:58
Speaker 14: It makes it a lot easier to have a lot of talented guys on your roster.

00:33:03
Speaker 8: It's why the Bengals and the.

00:33:05
Speaker 14: Cowboys keep screwing up and have all these type of cap issues, and why teams like the Eagles and the Lions they get way ahead of it.

00:33:14
Speaker 8: Now. The negative is if.

00:33:16
Speaker 14: Those guys start to get hurt or those guys start to play poorly, you're stuck because you pro rated so much of that money out over future years.

00:33:26
Speaker 3: You cover college football. Leave with this.

00:33:29
Speaker 2: The Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry cold reporters yesterday that LSU athletic director Scott Woodward would not be involved in the coaching search and saying that he would let President Donald Trump do it before the athletic director. What could go wrong in this situation?

00:33:47
Speaker 14: Ross, I mean, this is why college football, especially in the South, is so amazing, because.

00:33:56
Speaker 8: I do think it is the case. I don't know exactly the inner world workings, Dan, but I.

00:34:01
Speaker 14: Do think it is the case at a state university that ultimately the governor oversees it. I know, like in Pennsylvania where I reside, the governor is able to allocate three or five spots to the board.

00:34:15
Speaker 8: At penn State.

00:34:16
Speaker 14: So don't I don't know exactly the dynamic between the president university and the governor of a.

00:34:21
Speaker 8: State, but that is amazing.

00:34:23
Speaker 14: I mean, if you're publicly saying that the AD is not going to pick the football coach, that reminds me of like the movie Office Space, like like.

00:34:33
Speaker 8: The consulting to come in talk to the ad. What what is it would you say that you do?

00:34:39
Speaker 14: Like if you don't pick the if you don't pick the football.

00:34:41
Speaker 8: Coach, you might as well just fire the AD.

00:34:43
Speaker 14: I don't even know what he's doing anymore if he's not the guy picking the football coach.

00:34:47
Speaker 3: Safe travels, Rachel Talk. Do you have a good weekend?

00:34:50
Speaker 8: Always? Thank you so much.

00:34:51
Speaker 3: Dan h Ross Tucker.

00:34:53
Speaker 2: We love him Ross Tucker Football Podcast and follow him at Ross Tucker NFL. He's got Chargers at the Titans on Sunday, Army at air Force on Saturday. Take a break, Last call for phone calls?

00:35:05
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00:35:07
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00:35:21
Speaker 2: What we learn once in store tomorrow, this day in sports history, all of that coming up. In fact, let's do this day in sports history, Paul, just so you get the allotted time that you need to fully do this day in sports history.

00:35:35
Speaker 6: Well, pressure on me now, very thoughtful of you though. Nineteen seventy four, in Zaiir Muhammed Ali won the heavyweight title again after knocking out George Foreman. In nineteen ninety two, Magic Johnson retired from the NBA for the second time, and Michael Jordan Owe returned to the NBA with the Washington Wizards after a three and a half year retirement. Wizards lost to the Knicks.

00:35:57
Speaker 2: The Joker at twenty one, twelve and ten. He's the third player in NBA history to open up a season with four consecutive triple doubles. Oscar Robertson and Russell Westbrook Junior.

00:36:09
Speaker 9: Oscar Robertson comes back to Honty.

00:36:12
Speaker 3: Finally got it right. You would have known it.

00:36:14
Speaker 9: Tons just the day too early on that one.

00:36:17
Speaker 2: Let's see the Raiders in twenty sixteen on this date set an NFL record with twenty three penalties in a win against the Buccaneers. Also, Marcus two Weansa's SOPO. He's the first college player to pass for three hundred rush for two hundred in the same game in Washington's win over Stanford. Marcus two wee Alsi's SOPO. Didn't he play for the Raiders? He drafted by the rate. Yes, Marcus two wee elsis SOPO. Dan Orlovsky will join us on the program tomorrow. Adam in Indiana. Good morning, Adam. What's on your mind today?

00:36:54
Speaker 11: Good morning Dan and Dan at five eleven two hundred. First, I'd like to wish my wife Lynda a happy anniversary. Second. Out of the five major sports basketball, football, hockey, soccer, Baseball, I'm curious which one do you think requires the most in game coaching? Thanks as always, guys, have a good weekend.

00:37:18
Speaker 7: Most in game coaching? Yeah, see, I would say probably football. You know, it's like NonStop in game coaching.

00:37:28
Speaker 3: Marvin Football.

00:37:30
Speaker 8: Definitely.

00:37:31
Speaker 1: Now.

00:37:31
Speaker 2: You do see coaches in the NBA and college coaching every play or at least yelling out the defenses or offenses, you know what kind of play you're going to run. NFL, it feels like there's far more going on that you have to be aware of. And if you're not coaching the offense when the offense is on the field, you might be coaching the defense as well.

00:37:55
Speaker 3: Roy in San Antonio, Hi Roy, good.

00:37:59
Speaker 13: Morning everybody, and the hashtag sports guy.

00:38:03
Speaker 3: Thank you.

00:38:04
Speaker 13: So the Spurs. The longest wind streak an opening night going into the whole deal was three and oh in twenty nineteen, and the Spurs are now four and oh.

00:38:17
Speaker 2: Okay, well, congratulations Roy, congratulations who wow.

00:38:25
Speaker 15: Stead of a day stant of to day, stall outa day start out to day, this is the stanle of the day.

00:38:38
Speaker 3: Over the weekend.

00:38:39
Speaker 2: I saw he. I think he played Connor Roy. He was in Ferris Bueller's Day Off and he was at a diner in Brooklyn and I recognized him. He didn't recognize me. What's his name? Alan, Alan Ruck? Okay, Alan Ruck. But I was trying to be noticed. But then I thought, I don't have anything to really say, Like, I don't know Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

00:39:11
Speaker 3: Man.

00:39:12
Speaker 2: That car was beautiful Succession, although I didn't like his role on Succession.

00:39:19
Speaker 3: He was kind of annoying.

00:39:21
Speaker 5: But doesn't that mean he's a good actor.

00:39:22
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sure he's a really good actor. Okay, Yeah, I act every day and I'm annoying yues Tom.

00:39:28
Speaker 9: Was he wearing his red wings jersey from.

00:39:30
Speaker 3: Beck He did the wings jersey.

00:39:32
Speaker 9: That's disappointed.

00:39:32
Speaker 2: But then I thought he's by himself. And then it feels sometimes I don't know if you guys feel this way, it's more awkward to go up to somebody when they're by themselves as opposed to when they're with somebody else.

00:39:45
Speaker 3: Anybody feel that way.

00:39:47
Speaker 8: I feel the opposite.

00:39:48
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so they're by themselves and you walk up, Okay.

00:39:51
Speaker 4: If they're with somebody, you're interrupting.

00:39:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it feels like I get a little cover though with that, because then the the other person might know who you are, and maybe that would help a little bit here. I remember walking around the table we were in Memphis and Robert Plant was there with his band. Ah, it was like somebody in the band recognized me, so I can go say a little Robert Plant.

00:40:15
Speaker 8: You were like.

00:40:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, and nobody did. And then I thought, you know what, it's better if I don't go up to him.

00:40:23
Speaker 14: It is.

00:40:25
Speaker 2: But then I thought, you know, Robert Plants missing out on an opportunity to meet me.

00:40:29
Speaker 5: You know, he's sitting there somewhere now being bummed.

00:40:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's probably gone. The sports guy man I saw him.

00:40:36
Speaker 4: He doesn't want to talk fantasy football. I ask him who I should draft in my fantasy was.

00:40:42
Speaker 5: It OJ Simpson?

00:40:43
Speaker 3: Is that OJ? The English OJ Simpson?

00:40:46
Speaker 1: Hey?

00:40:46
Speaker 8: Dan?

00:40:47
Speaker 14: Is me?

00:40:47
Speaker 3: OJ?

00:40:48
Speaker 9: Yo bell?

00:40:48
Speaker 14: Oj?

00:40:49
Speaker 8: OJ?

00:40:50
Speaker 3: Todd? Would you learn today?

00:40:52
Speaker 10: Every time Ross Tucker starts to bet on the Falcons, they do him dirty bird.

00:40:56
Speaker 3: Seaton Rouss.

00:40:57
Speaker 4: Tucker is the best.

00:40:58
Speaker 3: He is good. Marvin, it still means more in the SEC.

00:41:01
Speaker 5: Paul's Molton low sleep, What about me?

00:41:04
Speaker 3: Todd? J.

00:41:05
Speaker 10: Bills wasn't shocked when Austin Reaves went undrafted, but acknowledge he has proven to be a stud and tough these days.

00:41:09
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us for Todd, Fritz Seat O'Connor, Marvin the Prince, Paul Yester yours truly.

00:41:16
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you tomorrow