Hour 3 – Don Mattingly, NBA Faceless Teams

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Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: It's the final hour on this Wednesday. We'll talk to Donnie Baseball. Don Mattingly. He is a bench coach for the Blue Jays, fifty two hundred games in his career, thirty six seasons as a player, coach and manager, and he's going to his first World Series. He'll join us momentarily. Take care a little bit of business. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of The Dan Patrick Show. We say good morning if you're watching on Peacock. That's our streaming partner. Peacock and NBC had a great night last night as we christened the NBA season. We also got a taste of Michael Jordan's role with NBC throughout the season. You got to see Luca a streamlined. Luca had a big night, but the Lakers end up losing to Golden State and the Rockets take OKC in a double overtime before getting a win. Seaton give us an update on the poll results for the first two hours, and then we'll bring in Don Mattingly. Who are you rooting for tonight? Dodge?

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Speaker 3: Who are you rooting for in the series Dodgers or Blue Jays. Blue Jays seventy percent of that boat. Massive number. Okay, we also have most threatened team last night aside from Oklahoma City, the Rockets.

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Speaker 2: Big lead on that one.

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Speaker 3: And the best part of the NBA being back on NBC round Ball, Rocket is dominating Michael Jordan right.

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Speaker 2: Now, all right, we bring in Don Mattingley. The numbers, the official numbers are five and thirty one games over thirty six seasons as a player, coach manager, and you're going to your first World Series. How's it feel?

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Speaker 4: It feels pretty good, Dan.

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Speaker 5: How many shows you've probably got the similar amount of shows?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yes, and I haven't won either. I haven't won.

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Speaker 4: Oh you one for sure?

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Speaker 2: What's your role as a bench coach for the Blue jaysh anymore?

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Speaker 4: It's getting it just spills less and less.

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Speaker 5: I think when I first came here, John was, you know, in his first year of first full year of managing. I thought, you know, I felt like my role was to come in and just be a voice for him and be another set of eyes as.

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Speaker 4: He went through it. It feels like it's getting less.

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Speaker 5: I kind of look to Marlow Hale and myself for here, we're both over sixty, and I call us the perspective coaches.

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Speaker 4: We've got to keep things in perspective.

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Speaker 5: As the season goes and he gets a little crazy, you lose a couple of games and got to try to keep it in perspective. But in general, you know, going through the game with John and staying up, I do more of the offensive side of hey, you want to pinch it here, we want to run, you know, just kind of staying on top of a few things, cause he's usually thinking about pitching or what he's going to do next inning or whatever, and I just try to make sure I'm just kind of keeping up with the game for him.

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Speaker 2: Love is going through your mind when you're trailing in Game seven.

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Speaker 5: You know what, trust, this has been a team that all all year long, like through this postseason, we've came down to like we need to win last day of the season to give ourselves a few days and get healthy, get our pitching together. We get down a couple of games, we lose the game in New York, we got to lead, it could have could have turned and all year long, this has been a team that I could sit here and go, you know what, I trust these guys, and that doesn't mean it's going to work out. But for the most part, these guys show up and they play. They're a team and they are really fun to be around.

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Speaker 2: Of all the teams that you're going to face in the World Series, and it happens to be the Dodgers, what are you thinking when you go back to Los Angeles? What kind of feelings?

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Speaker 4: No good?

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Speaker 5: I had a great run there in LA and walked away from there, you know, feeling good. Didn't feel like, you know, any negativity towards those guys, and then going back it's it's really more it's kind of like going to New York at this time of year. It's like, hey, what do we have to do to win a game?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 5: And it's it's business. It's it's pretty much that for us. Obviously, I've never been in a World Series, so I'm gonna enjoy this.

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Speaker 4: I've been enjoying this ride with this team.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 4: It's a fun team. It's a team you can trust.

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Speaker 5: It's probably the best word you can say as a coach or a manager is that you can trust these guys.

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Speaker 2: What's it been like though all of those years where you're watching somebody else win a World Series or go to a World Series, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, different phases of that.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, early earlier as a player, you always feel like you're going to get there.

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Speaker 4: Always felt like we were going to win it.

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Speaker 5: You know, on any level that I've ever been, we've won, and I always felt like we were going to win. In New York as a player, I felt that way. As a coach, I felt that way a coach in LA I felt that way. Miami maybe had one year there, we had a little run, but it wasn't quite as good as I would have liked there. So yeah, I've always felt like I was going to get there and have a chance to win.

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Speaker 2: What's it like now to have a younger son. I think you have three grown boys, but now a younger son watching dad on the big stage in a World Series.

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Speaker 5: It's it's been a lot of fun watching him go through this and the difference I think with my older boys, you know, we never got on this run, so they didn't do this. You know, extra month of baseball where you get to go and you get to have the celebrations and you get to go through you know, losing the first couple of games here and having to you know, have some must win games.

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Speaker 4: And different spots on the road.

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Speaker 5: But to have him go through it and kind of see his love of baseball grow. And that's what's been kind of fun this year is he's just really kind of got and baseball. You know, Kirk gets a couple of homers, the next thing, you know, Louie wants to be a catcher, you know, and then it's like, okay, this is great, you know.

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Speaker 4: So it's been fun to watch him go through it.

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Speaker 2: But go back, and this is what ninety five, when you hurt your back or you have to make that decision that you're going to retire, and how old are your boys, then like, if it doesn't happen, you're going to continue to play for a little while longer. And that team was going to World Series, so you may have held on even longer, but you wouldn't have been at home with your boys at that time. So I don't know, can you look at it as a blessing that you did get hurt and then you retired so you could be at home.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent?

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Speaker 5: I don't I feel like I had a choice at that point in ninety five and I was actually starting. I finally had kind of found a routine, you know, with my back that I was able to start to figure out, Okay, I can play, do this much work, and I stay fairly healthy. Right, So that part I'd kind of figured out. But the family part I couldn't figure out. Because all I was doing in ninety five and really ninety four, I probably would have retired after ninety four if the strike didn't come along. All I was doing Dan was in Jersey. The kids weren't really coming anymore. They were at an age where they were starting to play Little League and they didn't want to come to New.

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Speaker 4: York and sit around and do nothing.

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Speaker 5: So all I was doing off the road was come I'd go home, I'd go to the bedroom, I'd go down through the kitchen, grab a couple of coffee, and go to the ballpark and rinse and repeat every day. And that just wasn't enough at that point and for me. So the baseball part I still loved. I still felt like I was starting again, starting to get where I could produce again. But that other side of it, like the thought of my alays me trying to play more and not being a part of their lives.

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Speaker 4: I just couldn't do that. And I'm so glad I.

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Speaker 5: Did what I did, and because I don't think they would have known me near as well if I would have kept playing.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I lost out. You know, at the end of the day, I didn't get.

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Speaker 5: Rings I may have had a chance for but I would do I would not I would not change it at one bit.

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Speaker 2: Don Mattingly, the Blue Jays bench coach and a former batting champion. You know, we met in nineteen eighty three, and there is actually a report that I did on CNN on you. I think it's from nineteen eighty four. It's on YouTube, and I will say, I look pretty damn good back then. But you you had that mustache. You look pretty good back then.

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Speaker 4: I don't even want to look at those pictures because you feel.

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Speaker 5: Good on the inside, feel the same, and then you see the mirror and.

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Speaker 4: You're like, oh, the skin. The skin was a lot tighter in those days.

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Speaker 2: Did you How did you feel about Donnie Baseball as a nickname?

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Speaker 5: You know what, I didn't mind it, because number one, it came from Kirby. It was just awesome, awesome guy who kind of he started this baseball baseball baseball thing.

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Speaker 4: Had a dinner we would do.

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Speaker 2: And Kirby Puckett gave you that nickname Kirby oh wow.

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Speaker 5: And it started in Rochester, New York. We did a dinner uh for Kenny.

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Speaker 4: Kaiser Uh passed away got the rest of the soul. But we do it from every year, and you kind of.

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Speaker 5: Hang around afterwards, you know, you might have a few drinks and Kirby's talking and gets going and.

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Speaker 4: Donnie Baseball Baseball, Donnie baseball, and it just kind of hit and it stuck somehow. I don't know how it got passed on.

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Speaker 5: But then I thought later, I said, you know, I've probably been called a lot worse, So I'm like.

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Speaker 4: That I should probably that one's that one's okay.

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Speaker 2: For cheek when not, I guess analyze Shoho Tani at the plate.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I probably shouldn't do that. Probably shouldn't do that.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, I haven't looked at him really really close. But I think, like anyone, there are places to go to get him out right. And it doesn't mean you can go there all the time. That means you got to find different ways to get there.

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Speaker 2: But the strategy of having him lead on. Could you imagine in today's game you might lead off.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's it's different, right. I think it depends on your lineup, right. I think the year, one of my biggest years, Billy put me in a two hole and.

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Speaker 4: That was ahead of his time, you know, hitting in.

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Speaker 5: Front of windfield behind Ricky, So that was a great spot to hit. I always felt like the two hole was probably the best spot to hit in if you have a really if you have a deep lineup, and that means you're eight and nine guys are getting on base, which for me in that year ik was Willie Randolph hit ninth with maybe a four hundred on base and then Ricky.

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Speaker 4: It was just a perfect spot.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, the game, I think we've seen it with Atlanta when they did it was so lair in the World Series, they threw him in the one hole. He hits some big homers, it gets him an extra at bat because that spot comes around if it's a close game in the ninth, you're getting to the ninth, that spot's probably coming around for the extra at bat, And who do you want to get at a you know, a leadoff guy that may be a high on base guy, but or do you want the guy that can change the game right there?

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Speaker 2: So you don't want to give me any secrets. You don't want to give the Dodgers any sequence on what you think about Tony.

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Speaker 5: I mean probably the whole league tries to do the same thing Dan with the information that they have today. You know, everybody knows where you can go or where the spots are to get him out. But that doesn't mean when he's swinging good, he doesn't get there. And it doesn't mean you can just keep going there, right, You can't just keep doing it. You got to find different ways to get to that spot or those spots, whatever they are.

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Speaker 4: And that's that's what makes it tough. It makes him tough.

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Speaker 5: Mookie, I mean, Freddy, they got a club now, so you know we're going to show up and play.

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Speaker 4: So it'd be a series.

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Speaker 2: What's your favorite Ricky Henderson's story?

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Speaker 4: I probably look at think of it differently.

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Speaker 5: I think not necessarily a story, just memories right of you know, when we go to Oakland, Ricky would he invited me out? We have lunch at his house with his girl and just seeing his place and I remember he had this beautiful weight room. I'm like, man, this equipment's nice. And I said, you use this in the winter and He's like, nah, I basically do push ups and sit ups and run sprints. So he had this beautiful weight room that he never really used. But I just have memories like that, just him and I just kind of hit it off.

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Speaker 4: Uh, you know, on the field and off and and I thought that was That's what I think about.

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Speaker 2: Did he talk in third person to you?

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Speaker 5: No, I mean I think we all kind of like take this stuff a little further than.

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Speaker 4: It needs to go, right. But you know, Ricky, Ricky was sharp for me. He was a he was.

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Speaker 5: A player that knew what he was doing and and.

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Speaker 4: And was smarter.

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Speaker 5: I felt like off the field too, Uh, wasn't doing crazy stuff.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like an underdog in this series?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit. I mean I think you have to.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the Dodgers have got experience. Uh, you know, they won last year. They've showed it. You see a little bit of the bulls like in Michael's years with.

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Speaker 4: The regular season doesn't really It's like if you they get in who wants who wants to play? Him.

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Speaker 5: So they've got that experience and that pedigree. But the great thing about our club, and I say I've said it a couple of times, they just show up and it feels like sand loot with our guys. I mean, I'm okay. They look like they're having fun. They've always just showed up and played.

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Speaker 4: We lose two or three in a row.

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Speaker 5: During the season, they show up and play. We won five or six in a row. They look the same. They show up and they play, And I think that's what we'll do. I think we'll show up and we'll play. We played pretty good baseball. We catch the ball, we run the bases decent.

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Speaker 4: We can put it in play a little bit. Their starting pitching is really really good.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Those those you know, the four guys they threw that last series, they're all number ones. So I mean, it's it's gonna it's gonna be a battle.

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Speaker 2: Do you think about the Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 4: Uh? Now?

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Speaker 5: And then more when people bring it up only you know, and I've started, I think I've.

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Speaker 4: Changed over the years. You're kind of like, man, whatever, I've played my cards or whatever. But I think I look back at it now and go, you know, what. There's not a guy in there, a pitcher in there that I don't think I could hit. It really isn't. There really isn't. There's never been a guy that I didn't think I could hit.

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Speaker 5: And I know that if I was on the field with those guys, I wouldn't be out of place. And that's but after that, I don't what am I gonna do?

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Speaker 2: You keep going, Yeah, but we put in guys who got injured and their careers cut short. We do this in all sports, especially football.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan, you know what, you know, I'm not gonna politic. I'm just going I basically did what our club does, showed up and I played. Now I'm raising boys and getting along in baseball, getting older.

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Speaker 4: I think I'd be just as happy being a bench.

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Speaker 5: Coach or an advisor or coaching Louie's TENU team. You know, It's just like and just get a different perspective over time. So that part of my life is those cards have been played. But I do feel like, like.

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Speaker 4: I know I wouldn't be out of place on a field with any of those guys.

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Speaker 2: So Randy Johnson, Steve Carlton, no no problem, bring them on.

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Speaker 5: No, Yeah, I say bring them on. I don't say no problem, you know what I mean. There's guys that give you problems.

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Speaker 4: That but you figure them out. You got to try to figure it out. And Randy was kind of the opposite.

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Speaker 5: Hit Randy early really well, as he started to get the slider over, he'd give me more and more trouble, all right. And that doesn't mean that like Carlton, I faced him, but he was he was kind of past his prime.

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Speaker 4: Why I didn't get to see the nasty slider and all that, But I just think I just know that I figured it out. I figured it out.

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Speaker 5: I've never felt like anybody really ever overpowered me, and nobody that I felt like they're too hard for me any of that kind of stuff, and just kind of always figured it out.

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Speaker 2: Great to talk to you again, Congrats, have fun, we'll be watching and thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Dan, it's always to talk to you. And I didn't get thrown out of a game this year.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 2: I thought I could have gotten a uniform at Toronto Uniform I got. I got your Dodger uniform over there still on display in the mannicure. Oh and I have your Hitman poster in the man Cave as well.

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Speaker 4: I like it. I like it Dan. All right, you guys have a good one.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Donn uh So Friday Night World Series, Donny Baseball, I did. I did not know that Kirby gave him that nickname. But Kirby was such an enthusiastic guy. He was always in a good move. All right, let me take a break. We're back after this Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 2: Full slate of basketball coming up tonight. I'm seeing if there are any big point spreads. The Clippers are favored by ten and a half at Utah. What wow, ten and a half at Utah, everything else, the heater getting eight and a half at the Magic which is surprising, but yeah, full slate. By the way, Luca goes for forty three. I was wondering the most points scored by a Laker and a season opener. Kobe had forty five in two thousand and seven against the Rockets. I don't know what the record is for the Lakers in a season opener, but Kobe's forty five is probably on that list because Wilt wasn't, you know, scoring, you know, when he got to the Lakers, he wasn't a scorer. Elgin Baylor, Elgin Baylor probably could have put up, you know, fifty or sixty in a game to open up a season.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Paul, you mentioned the Jazz getting that big point spread. I was trying off the top of my head to think of Jazz players and I was having a tough time.

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Speaker 9: Laurie marketIn still there.

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Speaker 2: Yes he is. He's a good player. They got to eat Ace Bailey.

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Speaker 9: In the draft. But as far as star power.

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Speaker 2: No, they don't have that.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: Is Mike Conley Junior the third still there?

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Speaker 9: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't he He was in Minnesota. I think is that his last stop with the Timberwolves. Does that sound right, Marvin?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I thought it was the Timberwolves his last name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I don't know. If Utah has like Case Bailey, could be could be a star. Lauri Marketing can put up some really good numbers. I thought he was going to end up with Golden State, Yes, Marv.

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Speaker 10: Sorry, who's your random NBA team this year? You always have a league, pas Well.

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Speaker 2: I gave you Orlando last year. I gave you Detroit last year. They produced. I haven't figured that out yet, but I still have a little bit of time. I have the first week of the season, and then I'll give you my my rando team where you go keep an eye on them, because Detroit Detroit was a playoff team and you had the injuries with Orlando, with Hallo, Benarrow, they're going to be a force. Desmond Vane Wagner Wagner, Yes, Beholli.

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Speaker 8: On the topic of faceless teams, the Washington Wizards, I've got the depth chart here, which, believe me, I didn't have any clue about anyone. Noah a wizard off the top of your head, current Fritzy.

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Speaker 2: No, he's not going to know Marvin'll no, Trey Johnson.

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Speaker 9: Second string, but I'm gonna give it to.

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Speaker 2: You, okay, Blue.

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Speaker 8: You know who's out there ce J McCollums kicking it down there, poor guy.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but he'll get his shots up, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Poor guy. Uh?

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Speaker 10: Yes, is the coops still there now? They dumped it?

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Speaker 11: Uh?

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Speaker 2: They have the uh kid from Israel Alex Sar No, no.

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Speaker 8: Oh Balakali, No, you were making that up.

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Speaker 9: That's a real name.

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Speaker 10: I looked it up.

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Speaker 9: They got Chris Middleton running things there.

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Speaker 2: I feel a nice guy. Well he won a title though, So would you take a time? Who is the guy that.

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Speaker 4: Isn't there?

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Speaker 2: Somebody with a.

00:21:44
Speaker 10: Weird Bob Carrington, Danilla.

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Speaker 2: Denny Vija, Yeah, yes, that guy. I think he's from Israel.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you were all over that one.

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Speaker 2: I was. I thought he was going to be a good player.

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Speaker 9: I don't think he's there anymore.

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Speaker 2: He's not.

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Speaker 9: You know, my my boy, Marv Bagley is there.

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Speaker 2: I love I was first team Yeah yeah, bags from Bags to Riches to bags Man. Denny was a ninth overaller, I know, I thought, and I saw his highlights he's current Trailblazer. Oh yeah, all right, Now he had highlights. They but that's the problem. You fall in with fall in love with highlights. You're like, man, that guy look really good. Do you watch the game? No, but I saw the highlights, Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 10: I feel like when you go to the Wizards, you just become goofy. Like Kyle Kuza was the third best player on the championship team and when he got to the Wizards, look how goofy he is. Jordan Poole, same thing, big part of a championship team. He got punched in the face and they were like, you know what, as a punishment, you're going to watch the.

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Speaker 2: One who got punched in the face.

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Speaker 10: He got punched the face.

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Speaker 2: Then when they got traded, damn man. Yeah, Pauline, who.

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Speaker 9: Knows any Brooklyn Nets players off the top of their hat?

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Speaker 2: Somebody named john.

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Speaker 9: There's no Johnson's on the spot.

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Speaker 2: There's Johnson's And that's the problem. Yes, Marvin, my guy Danny Wolf, Danny Wolf from Yale and Michigan.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he's there.

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Speaker 2: Marvin loves Dan, Oh my god.

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Speaker 10: Loved his game.

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Speaker 2: He would come in and go, man, that guy's good and i'd be it's seven footer who was good passer.

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Speaker 12: He was at Yale and went to Michigan. Cam, I'll give it that to you, Cam Thomas. Okay, first things enough, Yeah, Marvin.

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Speaker 2: Our boy, Michael Porter Junior. Yeah. Third, that's right.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, can you get your fourteen out there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Man, No one's gonna be watching the Yes Network this season.

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Speaker 2: I know that's where I an eagle of all the great things he's done as an announcer. He's been the Nets announcer for probably twenty years. He's had to witness some of the worst basketball. Yeah, pulling.

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Speaker 9: How's your Portland Trailblazer's depth chart knowledge the room?

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Speaker 2: I'm simon, go on, Damn.

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Speaker 9: Your guy seating you just mentioned is on the squad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Danny, Danny just moved there. Drew Holliday, he's a trail Blaze.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Martin, Martin, Marvin's guy, Donovan Clean running.

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Speaker 10: The post, Scoot Scoot Henderson, Yeah, Scoot and Paddle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Don't they have Robert Williams. There is a Robert Williams. Yeah, you know your Blazers. This is where Todd goes, Lionel Hollans, Maurice Lucas, your curse.

00:24:55
Speaker 10: Okay, this music was playing the last time they were relevant.

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Speaker 2: So wow, back in the ninety he's Jerome Kersey, cliffor Robinson. Yeah, Clifford was good.

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Speaker 4: He was good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Paulie.

00:25:09
Speaker 9: Can you name a Devin Booker teammate on the Suns anybody?

00:25:14
Speaker 2: Uh? Don't they still have a player that they can't get rid of because he has a no trade clon Bradley Beal situation?

00:25:21
Speaker 10: Yes, no, no, is he out? He's with the Clippers?

00:25:26
Speaker 9: Oh part of the course.

00:25:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they gave him a side job to where he's making forty million dollars. You know, what's what can happen here? I'm talking out of school and this isn't a topic to talk out of school, but I the Clippers situation with Kawhi could get, you know, really interesting. And now the Wall Street Journal is on this story. So what It's not just Pablo Torre, but what happens if they avoid his con track with the Clippers and Kauli can play where he wants to or has to go play something. I mean, once again, I think there are some things that might be on the table here at some point.

00:26:11
Speaker 8: Yes, I hate to be mean, spirited. But if you're the Clippers, would you mind if he left your franchise? What's going on here if.

00:26:22
Speaker 2: You don't have to pay him? Yeah, that's the only thing. I don't know.

00:26:26
Speaker 8: If you can somehow get out from under that contract, maybe yeah, yeah, Marv.

00:26:33
Speaker 10: Yeah, that has been as disappointing of a signing as we've seen in a long time, because they did it right after he came off the hot streak in Toronto to do what he did in Toronto and nothing happened.

00:26:46
Speaker 2: But apparently during negotiations he was asking for a lot of stuff.

00:26:49
Speaker 10: Him and Uncle Dennis. Yes, they were asking for the moon and.

00:26:52
Speaker 2: The star, the Lakers, Yes, a lot of stuff. But the Clippers have been hungry. You know, I'm desperate and it shows. How about the hornets?

00:27:03
Speaker 8: I'm taking off LaMelo bum Sorry it's too easy.

00:27:06
Speaker 9: Okay, name a hornet.

00:27:10
Speaker 10: Mark Williams, the guy that almost a traded.

00:27:14
Speaker 9: I don't have him there. There's a couple Williams on the squad. Mark is not one of them.

00:27:18
Speaker 3: And we took LaMelo off.

00:27:19
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:27:21
Speaker 8: Remember Brandon Miller, he gets some shots up Alabama. Yea, they got a shooter from Duke in the draft.

00:27:30
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that guy call free the Canipple. Yeah he can PlayN Canipple. Yeah he can, he can do it.

00:27:39
Speaker 4: I was right.

00:27:40
Speaker 2: Elgin Baylor nineteen fifty nine had fifty two points. That's the most points in a season opener for the Lakers. Bloop bloop. Okay, thank you, nailed it? Yeah, nailed it. Yep, got it. Yeah. Nobody knows about yesteryear quite like I do. It's now that I have a problem with. By the way, Fritzy keeps sending me Instagram. This is for years now. He'll send me Instagram things to watch, you know, throughout the day and night after the show that I don't have Instagram, even if you.

00:28:09
Speaker 13: Click on the Lincoln No, suddenly, even if you're.

00:28:12
Speaker 2: Not so all of these George Carlin stand up routines.

00:28:15
Speaker 13: That's very unfortunate.

00:28:16
Speaker 2: Yeah. So when you send it and you go, hey, watch it later, kind of funny, and I go, I still can't watch the Instagram.

00:28:23
Speaker 4: You know.

00:28:24
Speaker 2: I'm a Facebook guy, I know.

00:28:25
Speaker 14: But I'll see some kind of comedic moment that pops up on Instagram and I think of you, because you could appreciate a joke at it.

00:28:30
Speaker 2: And I'd like to know how long if you stay on a Facebook topic do then they change the whole algorithm of we're giving you all of these videos because I clicked on a guy jumping off a cliff and.

00:28:45
Speaker 9: So you mean in a good way?

00:28:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, he does this as a sport. Now I get all of these videos of people jumping off cliffs and bridges, and I give you I mean, got be careful. Sometimes you click on something and then all of a sudden, it's like, well I didn't ask for that, Yes, Tom.

00:29:04
Speaker 14: I think it only takes a matter of seconds. I'm no technical person, but I've had that situation too. It's like I just watched this for three seconds. Why don't they think I want to keep getting this in the rotation?

00:29:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, I It'll be this pattern of somehow Sydney Sweeney comes up with pictures and videos coincidence. Yes, you know.

00:29:24
Speaker 3: One time, a long, a long long time ago.

00:29:27
Speaker 2: This is so funny.

00:29:28
Speaker 3: I was on a call, huh. I was on a call for something with the show, and we were new we were in the attic, okay, and I didn't really understand how this stuff worked, and we were going over our new website and the ads that they put up, and I was like, why is mine keep coming up all of this stuff or whatever? And they're like, awkward sounds Well it might have something to do with your search history.

00:29:53
Speaker 2: Oh boy, oh oh, I guess that's how that's right understood. That's where you go in and go clear all. I cleared my browser before.

00:30:05
Speaker 3: Like what, I'm like, why is like this type of material keep coming up?

00:30:08
Speaker 2: I don't understand? And it wasn't explicit.

00:30:12
Speaker 3: However, it had certain subtopics.

00:30:15
Speaker 2: That could only be explained by one thing.

00:30:19
Speaker 3: Oh I wonder uh oh got it, you're right, yes.

00:30:22
Speaker 2: Yes, pull.

00:30:23
Speaker 8: According to Wired magazine, if you're scrolling through Facebook, Instagram or anything, if you stop on something for three seconds, that's the magic number. Then they got once you get past three seconds, they're going to start feeding you that offshoots of that.

00:30:38
Speaker 2: Well, I get a lot of clothes because of course I revamped my wardrobe this year, of course, and uh you know, I got some corduroy and I've got some nice you know, hoodies, and now I get I'm inundated with that could be shoes, tennis shoes he has top.

00:30:52
Speaker 14: Would be the three second violation that you need Mississippi get out of here.

00:30:57
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, uh springs to videos somehow, Bob Dylan videos, Neil yet like just you're going by and you go, oh, I don't remember that, and then it's like click and then all of a sudden it's like next thing. You know, you're just inundated with them. But Todd, I do not get Instagram. Just want to let you know.

00:31:17
Speaker 13: I hope that you'll reconsider because there's some good stuff from it.

00:31:19
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to get Instagram.

00:31:22
Speaker 13: I wish I could show you. I don't know either, think so it showed be able to do it.

00:31:25
Speaker 2: Yes, Paul.

00:31:25
Speaker 9: Now here's a question.

00:31:26
Speaker 8: Todd's been sending you Instagram videos for decades now that he knows you'd either look at them or have it, will he stop?

00:31:32
Speaker 12: No?

00:31:33
Speaker 14: I don't think I will, because I'm hoping is that the next one one you're gonna be able to see somehow?

00:31:37
Speaker 2: Yeah? But I do click on him.

00:31:40
Speaker 13: What do you get? Just nothing?

00:31:41
Speaker 2: They won't let me. Yeah. I don't have an account. I don't have X either.

00:31:46
Speaker 13: Who formerly notice Twitter?

00:31:47
Speaker 2: Yeah I don't have that either, because I'll click on that and then it says, hey, you want to download and better off, you know. Mis David in Ohio, Hi David, what's on your mind today?

00:31:59
Speaker 15: Hey Dan?

00:32:00
Speaker 16: And kind a quick thing MBC just locked down Michael Jordan makes sense. Ever since Lebron won the championship in the Bubble, MJ's been doing all his interviews from his own.

00:32:09
Speaker 4: Bubble, his mansion.

00:32:11
Speaker 16: Man hasn't left the house since Lebron held that trophy. NBC didn't sign MJ. They just tap into the Jordan Bubble network.

00:32:18
Speaker 2: Thank you, all right, David. David working on his roast material with Michael Jordan. Perhaps you've heard of him. Zach in Texas, Hi Zach, what's on your mind today?

00:32:28
Speaker 4: Hey Dan?

00:32:30
Speaker 2: Six?

00:32:34
Speaker 11: Yeah, So you guys are talking earlier about kind of the best broadcast sports theme songs, and I want to nominate the kind of early two thousand ABC college football theme song that they played kind of leading up to the intro of Brent Musburger and just takes.

00:32:53
Speaker 5: Him back to my childhood.

00:32:55
Speaker 11: And I just love that theme song and it kind of goes you are looking live at the Dan Patrick Show.

00:33:07
Speaker 2: Thank you, Shank to do you remember that theme song? Vaguely listen back to that means no that means no, that's tough.

00:33:19
Speaker 3: If Todd didn't know the theme song, then I know because you are mister theme I don't know if it existed.

00:33:24
Speaker 2: You are a theme songer. That's what exists.

00:33:33
Speaker 13: That would be our very on Sunday Night football. Unless I'm not hitting the right note.

00:33:39
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00:34:00
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00:34:22
Speaker 4: He dp?

00:34:23
Speaker 15: Good to be back on a little bit of a league past candidate my six foot ten and under Toronto Raptors. I might be your only Raptors callers. I don't think anyone's gonna fight me for your unofficial representative. Also, who will go down as the greatest boring player in the NBA. It's a little early, but Tim Duncan or sda Uh, Well.

00:34:46
Speaker 2: I would say Tim Duncan's the leader in the clubhouse of greatest player in NBA history, greatest boring player in NBA history. I don't know if we've ever done that category before.

00:34:58
Speaker 9: Yes, Paul, is there a friendlier phrase?

00:35:00
Speaker 2: And boring?

00:35:01
Speaker 8: How about low highlight? Person like Carl Malone didn't have highlights? He was repetitive, like water torture.

00:35:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he did dunk a lot on the break with Stockton. Okay, yeah he did, and he would shoot jumpers and he looked imposing. Who would be in the boring category? Boringly great?

00:35:25
Speaker 3: Uh?

00:35:27
Speaker 2: Chris Paul.

00:35:30
Speaker 9: Low on highlights?

00:35:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of boringly great. You loved him on your team, Yeah, but boringly great? Who else would be? Is Kevin Durant boringly great? No? Okay, once again, we're just kind of spitballing here, just throwing it out there. Who else, Paul? I thought you were gonna say, I hesitate to say, I hesitate to say that any other boringly great basketball players, Yes, Marvin.

00:36:11
Speaker 8: We were saying Damar Derozen is not a highlight film, but a very effective player.

00:36:15
Speaker 2: Not a great player, No, but lots of great dunks in the boringly great, a lot of mid range jumpers. Anybody else that you could think of? Yes, Yes, Tom was Joe Dumar's boringly great. No, because I think by association the team was there was a lot going on with the team. You could make a case he was the most boring guy on the team. Yeah, bg, Yeah, didn't say much, didn't cause controversy, just played kind of boringly great.

00:36:55
Speaker 10: Yes, Marvin, I'm sorry, I don't want to do this.

00:36:58
Speaker 2: But Kareem m nobody had seen anything like that. What was exciting though the sky hook? Okay, like eighties seventies Kareem there'd never been to anybody a big man who had that athleticism, that grace, and he had the most unstoppable shot in the history of the sport. Yeah.

00:37:19
Speaker 3: See, it's tricky because you have to be great and maybe your personality might be boring, but then you have some highlights. Yeah, or you know, like I don't I mean, Ray Allen was a great shooter.

00:37:32
Speaker 13: Oh.

00:37:32
Speaker 2: Early in his career he would dunk on you. Yeah, he would. He would drive me. See that's why it's a fine.

00:37:37
Speaker 9: The more you really try to narrow it.

00:37:39
Speaker 3: Down, it gets more and more tricky.

00:37:41
Speaker 2: Yeah. And maybe Kareem was boringly great because he made it look so easy and did it all the time.

00:37:49
Speaker 9: Yeah, Pauline, I'll go old school Moses Malone.

00:37:52
Speaker 2: Mo faux fox fo. Yeah, he was just kind of a worker, great, great rebound.

00:37:58
Speaker 3: That's so boring that the workers they are, they are lunch pail guy.

00:38:04
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

00:38:05
Speaker 8: The fact that we've forgotten to say Joe Johnson means he's automatically in the category.

00:38:09
Speaker 2: But he's not great. A lot of all star, he's boringly good.

00:38:13
Speaker 3: Oh, hold on, don't mistake the name for the play Joseph.

00:38:17
Speaker 2: Joseph. Joe Johnson was electric, Yes, Todd Dennis Johnson now DJ when he played in Seattle was really athletic. Now when he played with the Celtics, he didn't play that way. He was just a really good point guard and even a Hall of Fame player. Yes, Saton Joel embiid fit in there. Nah, I think I find him. He's pretty polished. He can do a lot of different things. How about boring Carl Anthony.

00:38:48
Speaker 8: Towns the game, the innovator.

00:38:54
Speaker 2: There has to be somebody obvious we're missing. Is the most boringly great player? Yes, where's Chauncey.

00:38:59
Speaker 13: Billups that list? We think Chui Phillips is. I don't think he was that exciting.

00:39:03
Speaker 10: I think you're looking for all time, all the time.

00:39:05
Speaker 2: We're looking at top twenty top twenty five players. Maybe, and Chauncey was a good player, but not a not a great player. Uh you know, like Tayshawn Prince would be in there too, and you're like he was a great player or a good player, but not great enough to make the boringly great list.

00:39:24
Speaker 10: Yes, Marvin John Stockton boringly great, here's no man. Look at that pass?

00:39:31
Speaker 2: Well, a nice Chris Bounce pass. Absolutely, I would get excited over that. But yeah, I understand, Yeah, I would say Stockton, Yeah, Stockton up there. Maybe the most boringly great player. But Tim Duncan, Yes, paulm way.

00:39:44
Speaker 9: Back in the day, Adrian Dantley not a lot of dunks, a lot.

00:39:48
Speaker 2: Of pump fakes. That's more. Yeah, come out and watch Adrian Dantley pump fake because he was only six four. Yes, Mark, he'd.

00:39:58
Speaker 10: Get in the post like I thought he was six to eight post like a plane for the jazz. You're killing me?

00:40:04
Speaker 6: Utah, he would, That would have made him no never mind. H Yes, Tom was wes Unseld exciting to watch. I remember just a little bit as a kid. You made know better than me. Great, But I don't remember like major highlights.

00:40:16
Speaker 2: It was like six' seven center and but he was a. Rebounder he wasn't a score so, yeah He hall Of, famer boringly. Great uh what did you learn, Today?

00:40:26
Speaker 14: TODD i learned That don Matting lee refers to his team what he thinks of.

00:40:30
Speaker 13: Them. Trust he trusts them to continue to.

00:40:32
Speaker 2: Success see O'Connor Kirby.

00:40:34
Speaker 3: Puckett greatest baseball nickname of all time Created Donnie?

00:40:38
Speaker 2: Baseball Uh.

00:40:40
Speaker 10: Marvin four states are rooting for The, Dodgers paul.

00:40:44
Speaker 9: The all boring.

00:40:44
Speaker 2: Team, Yes Todd.

00:40:46
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00:40:48
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