Our Bigfoot Sightings - My Bigfoot Sighting Episode 189
Tonight’s guests, Montra Withers and Kyle Gibson, have had Bigfoot sightings in California and Washington State. Montra had her sighting in the late 70’s, in Tuolumne County, California. She’d gone on a camping trip with her parents, in their travel trailer. They found a nice camping spot to park their travel trailer and they stayed there for two weeks. Early one afternoon, Montra walked down a footpath, looking for a friend she had made while she and her family had been staying at that campsite, and wound up having way more excitement than she had bargained for. What happened next frightened Montra so much, she ran all the way back to he family’s trailer and stayed inside the trailer for the rest of their camping trip.
Kyle grew up close to where the Yakima River dumps into the Columbia River, and when he was a kid, he used to play down by the water a lot. Close to the river, there was a forest where Kyle and his friends used to play and build forts. Right before dark, though, they’d head home. Toward the end of the days when Kyle and his friends would play down there, they commonly felt like they were being watched. From time to time, they would find bare footprints down there that were too big to have been made by humans. One night, after Kyle had gotten older, he and a friend of his had their first chance to see what had been responsible for leaving those footprints. That was the night Kyle had his first Sasquatch sighting. That wasn’t going to be the last time he saw a Sasquatch and the day Montra had her sighting, in the late 70’s, wasn’t going to be the last time she saw one either. We hope you’ll tune in and listen to them share all of their experiences with you.
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Kyle grew up close to where the Yakima River dumps into the Columbia River, and when he was a kid, he used to play down by the water a lot. Close to the river, there was a forest where Kyle and his friends used to play and build forts. Right before dark, though, they’d head home. Toward the end of the days when Kyle and his friends would play down there, they commonly felt like they were being watched. From time to time, they would find bare footprints down there that were too big to have been made by humans. One night, after Kyle had gotten older, he and a friend of his had their first chance to see what had been responsible for leaving those footprints. That was the night Kyle had his first Sasquatch sighting. That wasn’t going to be the last time he saw a Sasquatch and the day Montra had her sighting, in the late 70’s, wasn’t going to be the last time she saw one either. We hope you’ll tune in and listen to them share all of their experiences with you.
If you’ve had a Bigfoot sighting and would like to be a guest, on the show, please go to https://MyBigfootSighting.com and let us know. We’d love to hear from you.
Premium memberships are now available! If you’d like to be able to listen to the show without ads and have full access to premium content, please go to https://MyBigfootSighting.com to find out how to become a premium member.
If you’d like to help support the show by buying your own My Bigfoot Sighting T-shirt, sweatshirt, or tank top, please visit the My Bigfoot Sighting Show Store Page, by going to...
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Show's theme song, "Banjo Music," courtesy Nathan Brumley
I produce 4 other shows that are available on your favorite podcast app. If you haven't checked them out, here are links to all 4 channels on the Spreaker App...
Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio… https://www.spreaker.com/show/bigfoot-eyewitness-radio_1
Dogman Encounters… https://www.spreaker.com/show/dogman-encounters-radio_2
Dogman Tales… https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/dogman-tales--6640134
My Paranormal Experience… https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-paranormal-experience
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2025-09-22
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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you there, thanks for tuning in. <v Speaker 2>You're ready for another episode of My big Foot Sighting. <v Speaker 3>All right, then let's do this. <v Speaker 4>Seen a bunch of run down no horse towns where <v Speaker 4>the church at the backbonels and the bow and the <v Speaker 4>fasting melodies coove in with the bone man rose with <v Speaker 4>the roofs run deep beyond the nose of the busy <v Speaker 4>streets with the songs of. <v Speaker 1>The South of s. <v Speaker 4>Then and I hear the prompt porch picking down home <v Speaker 4>rhythm bringing out I Don't Run from Banjung music. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. <v Speaker 3>If you'd like to be able to listen to the <v Speaker 3>show without ads and have full access to bonus content, <v Speaker 3>that's an option. To find out how, please go to <v Speaker 3>my bigfootsding dot com. <v Speaker 5>Our Bigfoot sidings happened in Washington State and California. I'm <v Speaker 5>Montre Withers, formerly fred. <v Speaker 2>Us, and my name is Kyle Gibson. <v Speaker 5>And the two of us have been doing bigfoot research <v Speaker 5>together for about eight years. <v Speaker 2>About eight years, yeah. <v Speaker 5>And actually bigfoot is what brought us together. So when <v Speaker 5>I was a kid, I had a siding of what <v Speaker 5>I believed to have been a bigfoot. This was when <v Speaker 5>I was about twelve or thirteen years old, so right <v Speaker 5>around nineteen I'm dating myself nineteen seventy eight or nineteen <v Speaker 5>seventy nine. And this was in Tuolomie County, California. And <v Speaker 5>how it happened was my parents decided to go camping <v Speaker 5>for a couple of weeks there with a travel trailer. <v Speaker 5>So we found a great little campground which is actually <v Speaker 5>still there. It's called Sugar Pine Campground. And we pulled in, <v Speaker 5>found a nice little spot and we were there for, <v Speaker 5>oh gosh, I think in total about two weeks. So <v Speaker 5>for me it got really really boring because I didn't <v Speaker 5>have anything to do, and so I ended up making <v Speaker 5>a friend there. And it was a little girl a <v Speaker 5>couple of years younger, I believe. <v Speaker 2>And. <v Speaker 5>She and I just met kind of outside the space <v Speaker 5>there where we were camped, and she, I guess, had <v Speaker 5>been there for a little while and she said, well, here, <v Speaker 5>I'm going to take you down to this little cool spot. <v Speaker 5>So I followed her, and unbeknownst to my parents, because <v Speaker 5>had they had known I was walking out into the <v Speaker 5>woods without supervision, that probably wouldn't have been a good idea. Anyhow, <v Speaker 5>she took me down this little footpath and it was <v Speaker 5>probably maybe a city block long to get out to <v Speaker 5>where we were, and there was a big or a <v Speaker 5>big rock there that you could climb on top of, <v Speaker 5>and there was a branch up there that you could <v Speaker 5>swing on when she grab it and swing over this <v Speaker 5>little stream that was back there. So anyway, so we <v Speaker 5>played there for a little while and then came back <v Speaker 5>and I didn't see her again for I don't know, <v Speaker 5>a short time, and so I went out looking for <v Speaker 5>her again, and she wasn't at the camp spot where <v Speaker 5>she was before, and so I thought, well, maybe she's <v Speaker 5>somewhere else. You know, I was just a kid. I <v Speaker 5>didn't realize, you know, she wasn't there at all. But anyway, <v Speaker 5>so I thought, well, maybe she's down there playing at <v Speaker 5>that same spot. So again I didn't tell my parents <v Speaker 5>where I was going, and took off down this little footpath, <v Speaker 5>walked all the way out there, and it was about, oh, <v Speaker 5>I don't know, maybe it was in the after sort <v Speaker 5>of mid to late morning ish afternoonish around I don't know, <v Speaker 5>one or two o'clock or something like that. So the <v Speaker 5>sun was coming straight down through some really thick trees, <v Speaker 5>some really thick pine trees, and a beautiful forest area, <v Speaker 5>and so I walked. Yeah, I was almost to where <v Speaker 5>the big rock was, and I was looking at the <v Speaker 5>big rock and I'm just scanning, thinking is she here? <v Speaker 5>And I started feeling like I'm being watched, and as <v Speaker 5>a kid, you know, the first thought is, oh, it's <v Speaker 5>probably my friend. So I'm scanning. I'm looking all the <v Speaker 5>way around in front of me, and then I start <v Speaker 5>turning clockwise looking around me, trying to see if she's <v Speaker 5>there somewhere, you know, maybe hiding or something. And I <v Speaker 5>turn all the way around now, so I'm facing the <v Speaker 5>trail that I just walked down, and in front of me, <v Speaker 5>Oh gosh, I don't know, maybe eight nine feet or so. <v Speaker 5>I can't recall exactly it's been so long, but anyway, <v Speaker 5>ten feet maybe twelve. There was a really big, thick <v Speaker 5>pine tree that was right next to the trail that <v Speaker 5>I had just come down, this little footpath, and I <v Speaker 5>just was looking at this tree, the trunk of it, <v Speaker 5>and it looked like there was an arm wrapped around <v Speaker 5>the tree. The arm had really dark hair, long, just <v Speaker 5>kind of drippy hair coming off of it, and it <v Speaker 5>wasn't moving, but I could see a full hand with <v Speaker 5>an opposable thumb, so five fingers, and the forearm which <v Speaker 5>had the long hair coming off of it. And as <v Speaker 5>I'm looking at this, I'm thinking, I'm not afraid, and <v Speaker 5>I'm thinking that looks just like an arm. Wow, that <v Speaker 5>is really weird, you know. And as I'm staring at it, <v Speaker 5>this face peeks out from behind the tree at me, <v Speaker 5>and I froze, absolutely terrified. I don't know if you've <v Speaker 5>ever had this happen, but when you're so scared, you <v Speaker 5>aren't even breathing, and you can't scream, you just are frozen, <v Speaker 5>just with fear. And whatever this was had a very <v Speaker 5>flat forehead. I could see it from right about the <v Speaker 5>bridge or whatever would have been a bridge of the <v Speaker 5>nose up and so it was very dark. I could <v Speaker 5>see the white part of the eye, which is called <v Speaker 5>a sclera. I could see that it was staring right <v Speaker 5>at me, and we locked eyes. And I had one <v Speaker 5>choice either, well two choices. I could run the other <v Speaker 5>way back into the woods, which I wouldn't know where <v Speaker 5>I was because it would have been beyond where I'd <v Speaker 5>ever been, beyond the rock. Or I could run right <v Speaker 5>by it to go back down the path I had <v Speaker 5>just come down and that was the only way home. <v Speaker 5>So instantly I took off down the path and I <v Speaker 5>had to run right by it. And if it would <v Speaker 5>have wanted to hurt me, all it had to do <v Speaker 5>was just reach out and what they say clotheslining, you know, <v Speaker 5>reach out and grab you. And it didn't. I didn't <v Speaker 5>look at it when I ran by. There was no smell, <v Speaker 5>there was no sound, but in sheer terror, I ran, <v Speaker 5>which I was not exactly you know, an athletic child, <v Speaker 5>but I ran all the way back to our campsite <v Speaker 5>and I ran into the trailer. Didn't tell my parents <v Speaker 5>what I had seen, but I stayed in that trailer <v Speaker 5>for the duration of our stay. I was absolutely terrified <v Speaker 5>and my parents, my mom would have just brushed it off. <v Speaker 5>But my dad, if he would have thought there was, <v Speaker 5>you know, in his mind, I'd be some weird person <v Speaker 5>out there stalking me or you know, trying to kidnap me, <v Speaker 5>he would have gone out there and looked for him <v Speaker 5>and been pretty upset at me, and I would have <v Speaker 5>gotten big trouble and he probably would have kind of <v Speaker 5>made a scene out there looking for this person. But anyway, <v Speaker 5>so I never told my parents about it, but the <v Speaker 5>memory of that and the sheer tearor of it stuck <v Speaker 5>with me throughout my life, and I was so afraid <v Speaker 5>to tell anybody about it because I thought they'd think <v Speaker 5>I was nuts. So I didn't tell anybody about it <v Speaker 5>until I was, oh gosh, I guess in my late thirties, <v Speaker 5>and I had told my oldest brother about it. And <v Speaker 5>at that time, there was an organization that's still around. <v Speaker 5>It's called the Bigfoot Field Research Organization, and they had <v Speaker 5>a website where they collected all different kinds of reports <v Speaker 5>for bigfoot sidings, and so my brother had told me, oh, <v Speaker 5>you should, you know, go on to their website and <v Speaker 5>file a report about what happened, and I reluctantly I <v Speaker 5>finally agreed to do it. So went out there, put <v Speaker 5>in all the details, told them what happened and where <v Speaker 5>it was, and so within oh gosh, just a few hours, <v Speaker 5>I believe it was, I got a call from somebody <v Speaker 5>who was in one of the investigators, and that person <v Speaker 5>turned out to be my very best friend, and we <v Speaker 5>ended up doing a lot of research together and going <v Speaker 5>out in the woods and doing a Bigfoot research up <v Speaker 5>until when I had moved from California, so, which was <v Speaker 5>eight years ago. So in essence, something that happened to <v Speaker 5>me so many years ago and scared the bijebis out <v Speaker 5>of me. It changed my life and it changed the <v Speaker 5>trajectory of so many things for me. I still to <v Speaker 5>the day, I don't know if that was a sasquatch, <v Speaker 5>but it sure darnwell looked like it probably was. And <v Speaker 5>it whatever it was, didn't realize it didn't have the <v Speaker 5>presence of mind, or maybe it was a juvenile. It's <v Speaker 5>hard to say to know that I could see its <v Speaker 5>arm and but anyway, so that was something that happened <v Speaker 5>to me when I was I was just a kid, <v Speaker 5>and and I've been doing bigfoot research now for for <v Speaker 5>many years. And that's actually how I met Kyle, who's <v Speaker 5>here with me right now, and he's had his own <v Speaker 5>Bigfoot experiences as well, so I'm going to pass the <v Speaker 5>baton onto him here. <v Speaker 2>Hi. Well, I grew up along a really long river system, <v Speaker 2>which is the Yakima River where it dumps into the <v Speaker 2>Columbia River, and my grandmother lived right across the freeway <v Speaker 2>from the river, and we were kids, we'd always play <v Speaker 2>down the river because there's lots of trees and lots <v Speaker 2>of coverage, and you could go down there and it <v Speaker 2>was like a big, huge forest and it went, you know, <v Speaker 2>all along the outside of the city, and that river <v Speaker 2>goes all the way up into the mountains. And so, <v Speaker 2>you know, as a kid, even all our friends and stuff, <v Speaker 2>we all, you know, we built forts down there, and <v Speaker 2>we played down there, and then as we got older, <v Speaker 2>we realized that there was fishing there, and so we <v Speaker 2>you know, we'd catch fraud ads and we'd go fishing, <v Speaker 2>and then we then we found out, you know, there's catfish, <v Speaker 2>so we fish at night for catfish, and we just <v Speaker 2>had a lot of fun. You know. We'd go down <v Speaker 2>there during the day and then play and then right <v Speaker 2>before dark we would come back, you know, go back <v Speaker 2>home to eat, you know, and get ready for the <v Speaker 2>next day. Anyway, so you know, growing up down there, <v Speaker 2>we'd always one of my good friends and me, we <v Speaker 2>always spend a lot of time down there, but always <v Speaker 2>towards the end of the day, we'd always felt like <v Speaker 2>we were being watched. It was really odd feeling. I mean, <v Speaker 2>even after all the years, we would and we would <v Speaker 2>find things down there that just didn't make a lot. <v Speaker 2>We'd see, you know, some footprints or something. We're like, <v Speaker 2>there was times even during the winter time when we'd <v Speaker 2>go down there in the the river would freeze over <v Speaker 2>and we'd be down there and we'd be crawling there. <v Speaker 2>Because the brush is real thick and real tall, and <v Speaker 2>the trees are tall. It almost makes like tunnels in <v Speaker 2>it's where you could get in there and actually if <v Speaker 2>the weather was bad and snow and you could get <v Speaker 2>underneath the trees, underneath the canopies and stay out of <v Speaker 2>the weather. Anyway, we would go down there, you know, <v Speaker 2>and once in a while we'd find like footprints, like <v Speaker 2>it looked like bare feet in the snow, and we're like, <v Speaker 2>you know, who'd be running around down there were no <v Speaker 2>shoes on. You know, just never made a lot of sense. <v Speaker 2>We were young, we didn't really know, but you know, <v Speaker 2>throughout the years, you know, it just felt like, you know, <v Speaker 2>me and my friend, we kind of knew that there's <v Speaker 2>something going on down there. We just we weren't sure <v Speaker 2>what was going on or what it was. And so <v Speaker 2>as we were growing up, you know, we would always <v Speaker 2>kind of when we were fishing, we would catch a <v Speaker 2>bunch of fish, but we would always leave a couple <v Speaker 2>of fish down there. We'd make a little circle along <v Speaker 2>the edge of the shore with the rocks and leave <v Speaker 2>just a little bit of water, and then we'd leave <v Speaker 2>a couple of the fish that we caught during that day, <v Speaker 2>and just out of curiosity to see that next day <v Speaker 2>when we came back, to see if those fish were <v Speaker 2>still there or something took them. And so we would <v Speaker 2>do that, you know, and we'd come back and the <v Speaker 2>fish were gone. But what was really interesting is whatever <v Speaker 2>was taking the fish. Sometimes we'd move our rocks around <v Speaker 2>and make like a little like little different symbols with <v Speaker 2>the rocks and stuff, and it was just really interesting. <v Speaker 2>It's like, I didn't know an animal could take the <v Speaker 2>fish and play with the rocks, you know. And so <v Speaker 2>you know, kind of in the back of our mind, <v Speaker 2>you know, because we'd never we never seen anything, but <v Speaker 2>we could. We'd hear things, and we'd and we it <v Speaker 2>was always felt like, you know, there's something down here, <v Speaker 2>we just don't know what it is. And so throughout <v Speaker 2>the years, you know, going down there, and then as <v Speaker 2>I got older, when I got my driver's license, I <v Speaker 2>got an old pickup truck and me and my friend <v Speaker 2>would go down there fishing for catfish at night, because <v Speaker 2>you know, fishing at night for catfish is the best time, <v Speaker 2>you know, to catch the catfishes at night. And so <v Speaker 2>me and my friend one night where we're going down <v Speaker 2>there along the river and we're going back down that <v Speaker 2>old road and I had the lights on and something <v Speaker 2>in front. We saw two figures in front of us <v Speaker 2>walk across the road. And as soon as I saw that, <v Speaker 2>I turned the bright skon on my truck and it <v Speaker 2>was two hairy people. There was one that was I <v Speaker 2>think it was a least seven feet tall, and the <v Speaker 2>other one was probably you know, six feet tall. It <v Speaker 2>was shorter than the other one. But was so weird <v Speaker 2>is when I you know, when I turned the brights on, <v Speaker 2>the way they reacted and they weren't startled or anything. <v Speaker 2>It's like they just gradually walked across the road, I <v Speaker 2>mean at a slow pace. And me and my friend <v Speaker 2>just kind of looked at each other, like you know, <v Speaker 2>most of the time you turn your lights on an <v Speaker 2>animal and you know they jump, you know, like you know, <v Speaker 2>they scarce the mean, they'll move real quick. These things <v Speaker 2>weren't scared at all. But I'll never forget his arm. <v Speaker 2>One of the taller one. His arm went up in <v Speaker 2>the air, and when my lights hit his arm, you <v Speaker 2>could see the hair, you know, it was probably four <v Speaker 2>or five inches long, and it was wispy and it <v Speaker 2>was moving almost like it was moving in the wind. <v Speaker 2>And I'd never forget that. I was like, man, what <v Speaker 2>is that? And we just looked at each other like <v Speaker 2>did you see what I just saw? And we're like <v Speaker 2>we did. We were in so much shock. We just <v Speaker 2>were like we were scared. You know. I just I <v Speaker 2>stopped the truck and I did not continue towards that direction. <v Speaker 2>I mean I sat We sat there for a few <v Speaker 2>minutes just saying, man, what was that, you know, trying <v Speaker 2>to think in our mind what it could be. You know, <v Speaker 2>could it be you know, people or something, But we <v Speaker 2>know what we saw. <v Speaker 5>What did they look like? Besides that, were they like <v Speaker 5>really beefy or were they more? <v Speaker 2>No, they were That's the thing. You know a lot <v Speaker 2>of people talk about the bigfoots being you know, like Patty, <v Speaker 2>you know big. These ones were built like an NBA <v Speaker 2>basketball player. They were very thin. Their arms were super long, <v Speaker 2>super super muscular, but the bodies were tall and thin. <v Speaker 2>They weren't what you see like on the Patti film <v Speaker 2>that weren't big like that. It was, you know, it <v Speaker 2>was very very different. <v Speaker 5>Yeah, sometimes in drawings they they'll make Sasquatch out to <v Speaker 5>look like some you know, young Arnold Schwarzenegger or something <v Speaker 5>like some sort of bodybuilder. But yeah, yeah, but. <v Speaker 2>I'll never forget, like, you know, the hair and everything. <v Speaker 2>Like I said, on the arms, you know, the hair <v Speaker 2>wasn't all mad at or anything. It was wispy and <v Speaker 2>straight around its neck and stuff like that, because you know, <v Speaker 2>you almost have it almost looked like the head was <v Speaker 2>just on the shoulders. You know, you couldn't really see <v Speaker 2>it because the hair, you know, came down the sides <v Speaker 2>and right onto its shoulders and so there's no neck <v Speaker 2>on it pretty much. But the arms were super long <v Speaker 2>because they were hanging down past where you know, where <v Speaker 2>your knees would be, you know, and as it walked, <v Speaker 2>the arms went up, so like one arm went up, <v Speaker 2>one arm went down, one arm went up, one arm <v Speaker 2>went down, and both of them, the taller one was <v Speaker 2>in the front and the smaller one was just probably <v Speaker 2>within like just a couple of feet of the bigger one, <v Speaker 2>and they were just following and they were just going <v Speaker 2>right across the road and that stage brush of there, <v Speaker 2>you know, those that big, big sage brush. You know, <v Speaker 2>it's probably like four or five feet tall, and they <v Speaker 2>were they were both way taller than that sage brush. <v Speaker 2>You know. I'm six too, and they were taller, and <v Speaker 2>they were taller than me. It's just so hard when <v Speaker 2>you're looking at a distance, you know, to see how <v Speaker 2>tall things really are, and when your mind sees something <v Speaker 2>that that you're not supposed to see. You know, who <v Speaker 2>would ever think you'd see something like that? It kind <v Speaker 2>of plays with your mind. You're like kind of go <v Speaker 2>back and forth, like how tall do you think that <v Speaker 2>thing was? You know, like a lot of people will say, well, <v Speaker 2>he could have been eight or ten feet, but you <v Speaker 2>really don't know at that distance. <v Speaker 5>Yeah, unless you've got like a tree that was standing <v Speaker 5>next to to go back and measure. It's hard to tell, <v Speaker 5>especially at a distance. But yeah, yeah, but. <v Speaker 2>It was so weird, you know, growing up down there, <v Speaker 2>because then after that happened, we quit going down there <v Speaker 2>at night very often, you know, and when we did <v Speaker 2>go down there, we went with other people. You know, <v Speaker 2>we just didn't feel safe going down fishing by ourself <v Speaker 2>at night. There's always a lot, a lot of stuff <v Speaker 2>going on down there, you know, not a weird feelings, <v Speaker 2>a lot of weird feelings and just weather and all <v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. And and but yeah, just that's <v Speaker 2>what kind of got me really really interested in it. <v Speaker 2>After that, I just kind of like really wanted to know. <v Speaker 2>I mean, I remember going back to a library and <v Speaker 2>like checking out a book trying to figure out what, <v Speaker 2>you know, what this is, what this is all about? <v Speaker 2>You know, I was like, you know, how do you <v Speaker 2>ask somebody at the library? Oh, by the way, do <v Speaker 2>you have you know, yeah, look at the kind of <v Speaker 2>funny you know. But that's what got me very interested <v Speaker 2>in and you know were I grew up in a <v Speaker 2>family where we all we fished and we hunted a lot. <v Speaker 2>You know, my grandparents canned and harvested, and so we <v Speaker 2>did a lot of outdoor stuff. We're always hunting and <v Speaker 2>fishing and being outside and so, you know, throughout the years, <v Speaker 2>even though when I was out there with my family <v Speaker 2>and I never told them what I'd be doing, you know, <v Speaker 2>but I was always looking for tracks. You know. I'd <v Speaker 2>go up hunting with my grandfather, hunting with a cousin <v Speaker 2>or whatever. And even though we're they're all really into hunting, <v Speaker 2>you know, me, I'm hunting, but I'm also looking, you know, <v Speaker 2>looking for it, you know, looking for tracks, looking for shelters, <v Speaker 2>looking for somewhere something would nest down, you know, and <v Speaker 2>you know, and just doing the research and trying to <v Speaker 2>figure out, like we're you know, where do these things <v Speaker 2>come from? And what do they do? <v Speaker 5>And you know, yeah, we so we do research together now. <v Speaker 5>And so one of the things that happened to us too, <v Speaker 5>which is it's kind of an interesting experience because we <v Speaker 5>learned quite a bit from it in some ways. And <v Speaker 5>that was that in the winter time, so we have <v Speaker 5>a couple of snowmobiles, so but we'll take one out <v Speaker 5>and him and I will go back as far as <v Speaker 5>we can. And actually we almost got stranded a couple <v Speaker 5>of times, but that's another story anyway. So this particular <v Speaker 5>time we were over were we were bumping, weren't we Yeah, <v Speaker 5>we were at an area in Washington called Bumping Lake. <v Speaker 5>And that's an area that historically has had a tremendous <v Speaker 5>amount of big foot sidings up there. Kyle and I <v Speaker 5>have found prints that were just amazing when they drained <v Speaker 5>the water down from the lake to a certain point <v Speaker 5>to accommodate runoff. In the spring, we found some amazing <v Speaker 5>prints that were just in the mud of things, and <v Speaker 5>it appeared that whatever it was was getting crawfish and <v Speaker 5>eating them, because there were little crawfishells and little piles <v Speaker 5>of things and anyhow, So this area, it's Bumping Lake, <v Speaker 5>and it's quite a popular Bigfoot research spot for a <v Speaker 5>lot of different folks. But so we were there, and <v Speaker 5>nobody goes back as far as we go because it's <v Speaker 5>just there's really no reason too. It's beautiful, but it's <v Speaker 5>not like it's a ski area where we go. So anyhow, <v Speaker 5>we'd gone way back in. I forget how many miles <v Speaker 5>were way back in, and a couple miles back in <v Speaker 5>or so, And as what we'll do is he's driving <v Speaker 5>and I'm sitting behind him on the seat, so I'll <v Speaker 5>watch him and which way he's looking. So if he's <v Speaker 5>looking to the right, I'm looking to the left. And <v Speaker 5>then when he turns his head, I turned my head <v Speaker 5>the opposite way. And that way. When we're on the <v Speaker 5>on the snowmobile, we're covering both sides as much as <v Speaker 5>possible as far as looking for any kind of evidence, <v Speaker 5>we're looking for prints in the snow movement or yeah, <v Speaker 5>movement especially, And so this particular time, we had just <v Speaker 5>rounded a corner and there was movement over to our <v Speaker 5>left side. I can't remember if you saw first or <v Speaker 5>fighter or what I think you saw it. Yeah, And <v Speaker 5>so we stopped and there were some pine trees back <v Speaker 5>in there, and it was kind of a little kind <v Speaker 5>of a spotty area where there weren't a hole out <v Speaker 5>of trees, maybe a couple up front, and then a <v Speaker 5>bigger space and then a few more and then a <v Speaker 5>whole bunch after that, so it was a little bit <v Speaker 5>of an open area. Now there was a lot of snow, <v Speaker 5>probably I don't know what, like four feet of snow <v Speaker 5>or something, you think, so maybe a little more than <v Speaker 5>four feet. <v Speaker 2>Because if you come off the side of the road. <v Speaker 2>That's why we couldn't go down there to look because. <v Speaker 5>Oh, yeah, there was a yeah, there was a ditch there, <v Speaker 5>and I was, yeah, I was almost getting off to <v Speaker 5>go run down there. Miles said, I said, you're going <v Speaker 5>to disappear. You're going to fall in the ditch. I'll <v Speaker 5>never find you. So anyhow, so we stopped and back <v Speaker 5>in the trees, probably about oh, maybe like seventy five <v Speaker 5>feet sixty seventy five feet back in the trees, there <v Speaker 5>looked to be a sasquatch standing next to a tree <v Speaker 5>watching us. Now it looked it was just completely still, <v Speaker 5>and so Kyle and I are sitting there watching and watching, <v Speaker 5>and so I pulled out my I think it was <v Speaker 5>my phone or whatever camera I had. I think it <v Speaker 5>was my phone though, and I started taking a couple <v Speaker 5>of pictures and thinking it's probably going to scare it off. <v Speaker 5>It didn't move, So we just sat there and watched <v Speaker 5>it and watched it, and it was almost like a <v Speaker 5>stare off. You know, who's going to blink or move first. <v Speaker 5>So eventually we thought, okay, well let's just keep going <v Speaker 5>and kind of see if it moves or anything. So <v Speaker 5>we just slowly accelerated and kind of kept going around <v Speaker 5>that corner, and it never moved. So we were real <v Speaker 5>excited about that. So anyway, when we got back from <v Speaker 5>that particular investigation, we were checking out the pictures and <v Speaker 5>oh my god, look at it, and we're blowing them <v Speaker 5>up and you could see the brow line on this creature. <v Speaker 5>I mean you could see I believe it's arm too, <v Speaker 5>and and part of its torso, and it was just amazing. <v Speaker 5>And then if you looked a little bit closer over <v Speaker 5>to the left, there appeared to be another one that <v Speaker 5>we didn't even see in person. And anyway, really really <v Speaker 5>cool pictures. <v Speaker 2>So we blew it up. <v Speaker 5>In fact, his mom liked it so much she blew <v Speaker 5>it up and had a poster made of it in <v Speaker 5>her house so and framed it. So anyway, fast forward <v Speaker 5>to springtime. Well, we wanted to go back out there <v Speaker 5>and see if we could find that exact same spot, <v Speaker 5>and so we finally we had a couple of friends <v Speaker 5>go with this and we finally found it, and once <v Speaker 5>the snow had thowed, you could see exactly what we <v Speaker 5>were looking at. And it was a tree snag. So <v Speaker 5>it was part of. <v Speaker 2>A burned or it was a growth. It was broken. <v Speaker 2>It was a growth that was popping out on the <v Speaker 2>side of the tree. It was a big growth. <v Speaker 5>Oh, it was a growth, Okay, yeah, but it was <v Speaker 5>a piece of this just yeah, piece of tree that <v Speaker 5>was popping out and it was high up now because <v Speaker 5>the snow was gone, so anyway, it was so it <v Speaker 5>was kind of a big moment for us, because we're like, oh, <v Speaker 5>how could that possibly be? You could even see the <v Speaker 5>brow ridge, you could see you know, there was so <v Speaker 5>much detail of what we thought we were looking at <v Speaker 5>and what we thought was looking at us. But you know, <v Speaker 5>things happen like that. Sometimes you'll think you see something, <v Speaker 5>you can take a picture of it and really believe <v Speaker 5>that that's what it was. But it's always a good <v Speaker 5>idea to go back when times a little bit different, <v Speaker 5>you know, and take a look in that same area <v Speaker 5>to see exactly what it was, if there's any trace <v Speaker 5>of any things. So anyhow, it was a lesson learned <v Speaker 5>for us, and it's still something we kind of giggle <v Speaker 5>about because it just looked so real. But it happens <v Speaker 5>happens to everybody that does bigfoot research, So. <v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, just like this is probably this was quite <v Speaker 2>a few years before I met Mantra, But I had <v Speaker 2>a place up up at Lake Roosevelt, up above Grand <v Speaker 2>Cooley Dam, up in the Calville Indian Reservation area in <v Speaker 2>Washington State, in Washington State. So you know, I do <v Speaker 2>a lot of research, and I'm an avid fisherman, you know, <v Speaker 2>And so I put my RV up there and I <v Speaker 2>at least a lot, and so I started going up <v Speaker 2>there every weekend and fishing and doing my Bigfoot research also, <v Speaker 2>you know, kind of the best of both worlds. I <v Speaker 2>can go out in the boat and look for new <v Speaker 2>places and fish and just kind of learned the area, <v Speaker 2>you know, and learn and met some of the really <v Speaker 2>nice people up there that had lived along the river <v Speaker 2>for a very long time and had stories. And I'd <v Speaker 2>go back and do some research, you know, and found <v Speaker 2>all these really neat, you know, Bigfoot stories about that area. <v Speaker 2>You know, there's just tons of history, and so I decided, <v Speaker 2>you know, just to see if I can, you know, <v Speaker 2>just and as the years went by, you know, spend <v Speaker 2>all the time up there, you know, i'd find prints, <v Speaker 2>and i'd find really cool things, and I could and <v Speaker 2>i'd hear them, you know, I'd hear just some really <v Speaker 2>neat you know, screams and yells and so exciting, you know, <v Speaker 2>because you hear like the Ohio sounds and stuff like that, <v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden you could hear that <v Speaker 2>up there at the lake and You're like, wow, that <v Speaker 2>sounds just like exactly what they recorded, you know, and <v Speaker 2>just talking to people up there and it's just so massive. <v Speaker 2>I mean, the area up there, you know, is along <v Speaker 2>the Columbia River and it goes all the way to Canada. <v Speaker 2>It's one hundred and fifty miles of river, and there's <v Speaker 2>all kinds of slews and you know, caves and high <v Speaker 2>ground and lots of granted trees and just just endless, <v Speaker 2>just endless, and lots of animals, you know. And so <v Speaker 2>I spent a lot of years up there and kind <v Speaker 2>of wiggled it down to this area that I kind <v Speaker 2>of knew that they were in there, and I talked <v Speaker 2>to some of the elders up there, and they told <v Speaker 2>me basically, yeah, they're in there, but don't go in there. <v Speaker 2>You should stay out of that area. That's that area <v Speaker 2>is there's and you shouldn't go in there. You know. <v Speaker 2>Of course, when somebody tells me I shouldn't go in there, <v Speaker 2>you know, you know what I'm going to do. I'm <v Speaker 2>so curious. I'm like, I gotta go find out what <v Speaker 2>they're talking about, you know. So I went up there <v Speaker 2>and just kept hanging around in there because there's a <v Speaker 2>there's a slew, and you can take your boat behind <v Speaker 2>the rock, this big rock island back there into the <v Speaker 2>corner and then it's just straight up hill, just mile <v Speaker 2>just beautiful rock, rockeries and trees and stuff. And so <v Speaker 2>I thought to myself, you know, everybody talks about, you know, <v Speaker 2>call blasting, you know, and I don't know much about <v Speaker 2>call blasting, but I'm like, you know, it works when <v Speaker 2>we call it, when we bugle and elk, you know, <v Speaker 2>an elko comes in, you know. So I thought, what <v Speaker 2>the heck. You know, I had the CD that of <v Speaker 2>the Sierra Sounds from Ron Moorehead, and I thought to myself, <v Speaker 2>you know what, I'm going to try this. And my <v Speaker 2>boat has a huge, huge speaker system, I mean loud, <v Speaker 2>I had a custom built. So I put the CD <v Speaker 2>in there and I started playing this stuff. And because <v Speaker 2>you're behind there, behind the rocks, you know, and you're <v Speaker 2>in that canyon, and so the sound really travels far <v Speaker 2>up the mountain, you know. And the first week or so, <v Speaker 2>you know, i'd play it, and you know, I didn't <v Speaker 2>really get a whole lot, you know, I heard some <v Speaker 2>branches breaking and some rocks and stuff, and didn't really <v Speaker 2>you know, just kept kind of like, no, not this time, <v Speaker 2>you know, And so like second week, it was the <v Speaker 2>second or third week I just every time I go <v Speaker 2>up there, I just play that for a little bit <v Speaker 2>just to see, you know. And the one week I <v Speaker 2>was up there was on a weekend, and I played that, <v Speaker 2>and whatever was up above on the mountain there, it <v Speaker 2>totally mimicked what I played on that CD. And it <v Speaker 2>even went further than that. I mean, it was going <v Speaker 2>off and me, I was, oh, I was so excited. <v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my gosh, you know, you hear that? <v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, you know. So I put the anchor <v Speaker 2>out of my boat and I decided I'm going to go. <v Speaker 2>I'm going to swim the shore. See what see if <v Speaker 2>I can get get a look at this thing, because <v Speaker 2>it's up there and it's it's just it's making all <v Speaker 2>kinds of noises. It's it's going off. So I get <v Speaker 2>the shore, I start going up the mountain part way, <v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden, I start hearing tree <v Speaker 2>batches like breaking and stuff. And I'm like, oh my gosh, <v Speaker 2>you know, Oh my gosh, you know. And I had <v Speaker 2>somebody out in the boat too, and they're yelling back <v Speaker 2>at me and they're like, hey, yeah, there's something up there. <v Speaker 2>I can hear it, you know, And I'm like, quiet, quiet, <v Speaker 2>you know, quiet. I got to see what this thing is. <v Speaker 2>So I start going up there, and then all of <v Speaker 2>a sudden, I saw I saw this dark shadow figure <v Speaker 2>coming down the mountain, and I saw trees. I'm in <v Speaker 2>talking trees, like going down, like getting ripped down. I mean, <v Speaker 2>it was just plowing through whatever it was. And the <v Speaker 2>first thing I could do is and I was so scared, <v Speaker 2>like I wanted to see it. But at the same time, <v Speaker 2>I'm like, man, I don't know, this might not be <v Speaker 2>a good idea. And so when I went around this rock, <v Speaker 2>it came around that rock on that one side, and <v Speaker 2>it screamed at me. It was right behind me, well, <v Speaker 2>it was in front of me at first, and it <v Speaker 2>screamed at me. And then I turned my back because <v Speaker 2>I was so scared. I wanted to get away. So <v Speaker 2>I was turning my back towards the water because I <v Speaker 2>was the way I came in. But as soon as <v Speaker 2>I turned, I couldn't move. It's like my whole body <v Speaker 2>froze up. I never ever felt anything like that before. <v Speaker 2>It literally felt like maybe like the only thing I <v Speaker 2>can compare it to is like grabbing an electric fence. <v Speaker 2>And then not being able to let go of it, <v Speaker 2>so I my body turned around, but then I could <v Speaker 2>not move. I was in deep shock and I didn't <v Speaker 2>know what to do. In fact, there was all there <v Speaker 2>was a warm feeling that came over I was. It <v Speaker 2>came over the top of my head, this warm feeling <v Speaker 2>like somebody's planning to put a gunny sack over my <v Speaker 2>head so I can't see and this is going to <v Speaker 2>be then, you know, And I started praying. I was <v Speaker 2>so scared. I never been. I don't get scared, but <v Speaker 2>I was scared then because my body wouldn't move. I mean, <v Speaker 2>and it happened so fast, and it was so hard <v Speaker 2>to think about what was going on because I was <v Speaker 2>in just such shock that it probably only was like <v Speaker 2>a manute or two, but it felt like forever because <v Speaker 2>I wanted to leave. I wanted tom I wanted to <v Speaker 2>run and jump into the water to get to my <v Speaker 2>boat for my safety, but I couldn't so I couldn't move. <v Speaker 2>And I'm not kidd yeah, Like at that moment, I thought, Wow, <v Speaker 2>this is it, this is how, this is how my <v Speaker 2>life is going to end. This is this is it, <v Speaker 2>this is the big one. <v Speaker 5>And then behind it and. <v Speaker 2>Then I heard it behind me, and it's and I <v Speaker 2>heard the breathing, and everything was deep breath, gut or <v Speaker 2>breath right. I thought, I really thought it was going <v Speaker 2>to grab me and out it was it, and it <v Speaker 2>it didn't. What it did is it was behind me, <v Speaker 2>and it was it was breathing and making all these <v Speaker 2>noises and everything. But then all of a sudden, it's <v Speaker 2>like it let go, because all of a sudden, my <v Speaker 2>body started moving and I took off running and I, <v Speaker 2>I'm not kiddy, I came. I went across sou water <v Speaker 2>like I was Michael Phelps. I mean, I was. You <v Speaker 2>never seen somebody swim as fast as I swam, and <v Speaker 2>I'm a good swimmer. And I got out of there, <v Speaker 2>got to my boat, pulled my anchor up, and we <v Speaker 2>rolled out of there. And it left me in such <v Speaker 2>shock that I went back to my RV, which is <v Speaker 2>about about a mile or two down river. Went back <v Speaker 2>to my RV and put my boat on the trailer <v Speaker 2>and got back to the r V, and all of <v Speaker 2>a sudden, I was really really sick. I couldn't believe it. <v Speaker 2>I mean, I felt horrible, Like the shock was so <v Speaker 2>bad that it drained everything out of my body. I <v Speaker 2>felt like I had a flu almost. I've never been <v Speaker 2>that sick. I mean I basically laid down on the <v Speaker 2>couch and I didn't move all that the rest of <v Speaker 2>that day. And all I could think about was thank <v Speaker 2>God I was still here. You know. That was that scary, <v Speaker 2>I thought. Man, that was the most hopeless, most awfulest <v Speaker 2>feeling I've ever had. Yeah. After that, I would drive <v Speaker 2>my boat by that area, but I would never go <v Speaker 2>in there and stop. I'll drive it in the water <v Speaker 2>around that, but I would never get out on land <v Speaker 2>and go go up to that spot where that happened. <v Speaker 5>Yeah, and that was where they told you, yeah, don't <v Speaker 5>ever go up there. <v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, So yeah, I didn't go there no more. <v Speaker 2>You know. <v Speaker 5>Yeah, what did it sound like when it was breathing <v Speaker 5>behind you? <v Speaker 2>It was really deep, Like it's so weird because not <v Speaker 2>like not like a bear or not like any other animal, <v Speaker 2>but it was a very guttural really not nasally like <v Speaker 2>a nasally breathing like something like that thing. When it <v Speaker 2>came down the hill, it came down really super fast, <v Speaker 2>but it was breathing through its nose or whatever it was. <v Speaker 2>It was naisally gurgly, but really like I like, out <v Speaker 2>of breath is the most. It was awful. It was awful. <v Speaker 5>It sounded like a monster. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, it sounded like a monster. Yeah, good grief. <v Speaker 5>And you were sick for about three days after. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, sick for about three days after that. <v Speaker 5>You know, there's a possibility he could have been hit <v Speaker 5>with infra sound. <v Speaker 2>That's what some of my friends were saying that they <v Speaker 2>thought that maybe that could be infra sound. That made <v Speaker 2>me very sick. <v Speaker 5>Yeah, that could be. Yeah, there's no way to like <v Speaker 5>test or anything like that. <v Speaker 2>But it was so interesting, you know, I really do. <v Speaker 2>I missed that place up there, you know, where my <v Speaker 2>RV was and everything, because you know, I catch all <v Speaker 2>this fish and I put him in my free freezer <v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. But we always had like it <v Speaker 2>seems like we had visitors there at night, you know, <v Speaker 2>at the camper and stuff. But that area up there's <v Speaker 2>very the most I've been everywhere with that place up <v Speaker 2>there is totally like it's spooky. It is. <v Speaker 5>It's really at night after the sun goes down, there's <v Speaker 5>a whole different feel to that area up there. It's <v Speaker 5>very it's very creepy and kind of spooky, and it <v Speaker 5>just feels it doesn't have a welcoming feel like yay vacation. <v Speaker 5>It's more like go home. Yeah yeah, so yeah, yeah, <v Speaker 5>it's a really good place for research up. <v Speaker 2>That experience right there changed me because you know, I <v Speaker 2>used to be the guy that, it's like, really wanted <v Speaker 2>to go out and get video and get pictures of <v Speaker 2>this creature. And I really wanted to get all this stuff. <v Speaker 2>And then that happened to me, and that was and <v Speaker 2>that kind of helpened my eyes up, and I kind <v Speaker 2>of had to rethink my thoughts and rethink myself, going, man, <v Speaker 2>why I'm out here chasing something that can just if <v Speaker 2>it really wanted to, it could have just ended me <v Speaker 2>right then and there, and there's nothing I could do. So, <v Speaker 2>you know, a lot of people that are researchers, you know, yeah, <v Speaker 2>they're really interested in this subject. But when something like <v Speaker 2>that happened to you, it really changes your whole view <v Speaker 2>and your whole view on life. It really makes you rethink, like, <v Speaker 2>maybe it's not a good idea of running around out <v Speaker 2>here at night looking for this thing. You know. Yeah, <v Speaker 2>because I think a lot of people and you know, <v Speaker 2>if you had experience that I've had it will make <v Speaker 2>you not want to do that ever again, let me <v Speaker 2>tell you. Yeah. <v Speaker 5>So it can get really creepy, really creepy, really fast, <v Speaker 5>depending on where you are, And there's some there's some <v Speaker 5>areas like like we talked about Bumping Lake, and then <v Speaker 5>there's some other areas that that you and I do <v Speaker 5>where we have some sites that we we go back <v Speaker 5>and check up in the Blue Mountains, which is close <v Speaker 5>to where we live here, We've had some really very <v Speaker 5>odd things happened to us, so it's hard to say <v Speaker 5>if they're bigfoot related, so I won't go into those <v Speaker 5>right now, But there was there was an experience that <v Speaker 5>I had. This was before Kyle and I met, and <v Speaker 5>I was back in the early two thousands, and my <v Speaker 5>best friend who I had met when i'd fouled that <v Speaker 5>report that I mentioned earlier, Kathy Strain, Her and I <v Speaker 5>were out together and we were working with the VFRORO <v Speaker 5>at that time, and we were on an expedition up <v Speaker 5>in the California Redwoods and Matt who runs the VFRORO, <v Speaker 5>he had people that had come there that were participants, <v Speaker 5>and so we were taking groups of people out into <v Speaker 5>the woods to look for evidence and such. So anyhow, <v Speaker 5>there was one of the nights that we were there, <v Speaker 5>we were doing what's called call blasting, and what that <v Speaker 5>is is taking purported bigfoot sounds that have been run <v Speaker 5>through places like Texas, A and M to see if <v Speaker 5>they match up with any known animal sounds or any <v Speaker 5>mechanical sounds or human within the human range vocalizations. And <v Speaker 5>if they come back as you know, unknown primate or <v Speaker 5>just unknown, then we'll use those sounds to do what <v Speaker 5>we call call blasting. So well, basically like what Kyle <v Speaker 5>was talking about, putting it over as speakers, so you'll <v Speaker 5>have a portable speaker and you'll you'll play these sounds <v Speaker 5>and they're they're very spooky sounding some of them. Some <v Speaker 5>of them are long kind of wails, depending on you know, <v Speaker 5>what you want to use. But we don't know what <v Speaker 5>they mean. So it's kind of kind of an unknown <v Speaker 5>because you might be call blasting a sound that is <v Speaker 5>a you know, I don't trespass in my area sound, <v Speaker 5>or a warning or maybe a call from a mother <v Speaker 5>to a child, or who knows what it could be anything. So, <v Speaker 5>so we were doing the call blasting and stuff, and <v Speaker 5>and where Kathy and I were. We had a group <v Speaker 5>of probably, oh, I don't know, maybe ten people or <v Speaker 5>so with us, maybe a few more. We were down <v Speaker 5>below where someone was called blasting up on a hill <v Speaker 5>and it was out in the woods, but this particular <v Speaker 5>area there was kind of a little bit of a <v Speaker 5>slope uphill, just grassy area, and then a little pocket <v Speaker 5>of kind of some scrub brush with a couple of <v Speaker 5>pine trees in it, just a little island kind of, <v Speaker 5>and then all around that was just green meadow grass. <v Speaker 5>And then it was a little ways from the tree line, <v Speaker 5>so kind of a little pocket of an open area. <v Speaker 5>So we were standing probably, oh, I don't know, maybe <v Speaker 5>twenty feet from this little island that had just some <v Speaker 5>scrub brush and a couple of trees on it, and <v Speaker 5>it was just a little after dusk. So we're call blasting, <v Speaker 5>and what we do when we're doing is we'll wait <v Speaker 5>for a response and see if something makes a noise <v Speaker 5>from somewhere to call back to respond to whatever it <v Speaker 5>is that we're blasting out there. We were all very still, <v Speaker 5>and on that particular expedition, nobody was allowed to use flashlights, <v Speaker 5>so nobody had any way of lighting anything up to <v Speaker 5>scare something off in case something approached us. So anyway, <v Speaker 5>the sounds were going on, and we would stop and listen, <v Speaker 5>and then they'd play the sounds again, and then we'd <v Speaker 5>all stop and listen very intently. And what happened was <v Speaker 5>is I can't remember who actually noticed it first. It <v Speaker 5>was probably somebody in the group, or if it was Kathy, <v Speaker 5>But in this little island of brush, there were two <v Speaker 5>red dots that looked like they looked like little red <v Speaker 5>led lights or something, but they were spaced just far <v Speaker 5>enough apart where they looked like eyes on a big <v Speaker 5>head because they were far apart, maybe like I don't know, <v Speaker 5>about eight inches or nine inches or ten inches. I <v Speaker 5>can't recall exactly because that wasn't close enough to it. <v Speaker 5>But and they were down low, so it looked like <v Speaker 5>something was in this little island where there was just <v Speaker 5>brush and stuff, and you couldn't really see into it <v Speaker 5>very well, being as it was dark too, and something <v Speaker 5>was crouching down with these two red glowing eyes. And <v Speaker 5>so everybody looked over there, and everybody was getting pretty nervous. <v Speaker 5>There was no sound, no smell, no nothing, and so <v Speaker 5>Kathy and I were close to it. Closest to it, <v Speaker 5>and so her and I were both scared too, and <v Speaker 5>we're the only girls there, and so we looked at <v Speaker 5>each other and we held each other's hand and we <v Speaker 5>walked towards it. And as we're walking towards it, we <v Speaker 5>got about another maybe five feet closer, those two red <v Speaker 5>glowing dots started to raise up and raise up and <v Speaker 5>raise up as though something went from a squatting down <v Speaker 5>position to a standing position. And they went very slowly <v Speaker 5>up and up and up, and we could see them. <v Speaker 5>And then when they got to be about maybe seven <v Speaker 5>feet maybe something, they just dimmed out and they were <v Speaker 5>totally gone. It was like somebody had them on a <v Speaker 5>dimmer switch and they just went gone. There was no noise, nothing, <v Speaker 5>and everyone there was terrifying. In fact, there was one <v Speaker 5>participant who actually had a little accident in his pants <v Speaker 5>and because he was so scared, and we were all <v Speaker 5>just terrified. But Kathy and I got close enough to <v Speaker 5>it whatever it was, and it raised up and disappeared, <v Speaker 5>and now we were on a bigfoot expedition. But I <v Speaker 5>don't know what that was, so that I can't tell you. <v Speaker 5>But anyhow, the next day we had gone back in <v Speaker 5>the daytime, and we thought, well, there's got to be <v Speaker 5>some something. We're going to look and see if there's <v Speaker 5>anything there, any duff that's been moved, you know, any <v Speaker 5>leaves that were crunched or anything mashed down underneath this <v Speaker 5>kind of scrubby brush and under these little scrub trees <v Speaker 5>that were there in the pine trees. There was nothing disturbed. <v Speaker 5>Everything was just still covered in you know, leaves that <v Speaker 5>were crunchy, and there wasn't any evidence that any person <v Speaker 5>or anything had been back in there, but there definitely <v Speaker 5>was something. And what that was, I I to this day, <v Speaker 5>I still don't know, but pretty scary stuff. So anyhow, <v Speaker 5>I think, is there anything. <v Speaker 2>Else you want to talk about? <v Speaker 5>You experienced, you we both had a lot of experiences, <v Speaker 5>but I think that that's probably all I can think of. <v Speaker 5>That's real exciting for now. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's so many different things. Yeah, throughout the years, <v Speaker 2>we spent a lot of time, you know, if we're <v Speaker 2>not working, we're outside, you know, we're in the woods. <v Speaker 2>We try to spend as much as we can, you know, <v Speaker 2>outside looking and doing our research. And you know, most <v Speaker 2>of the times you're just out in the forest and <v Speaker 2>you're just enjoying the outdoors. You know, there's not a <v Speaker 2>whole lot that does. It doesn't always happen. Sometimes it <v Speaker 2>might be years, you know, but there. <v Speaker 5>Are a lot of creepy things that happen that may <v Speaker 5>or may not be Bigfoot related. But the woods can <v Speaker 5>be a scary place. So just know that night time <v Speaker 5>is is generally when things start amping up a little bit. <v Speaker 5>But that's how we met was actually through the Bigfoot <v Speaker 5>of phenomena. So had I had not filed that report <v Speaker 5>from many many years ago, Kylon I would not be <v Speaker 5>sitting here together talking. So I guess that wraps it <v Speaker 5>up for us. Yeah, thanks so much for hanging in <v Speaker 5>there and listening to us. We appreciate it. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you very much. That was great. <v Speaker 6>Well that's it for tonight show. If you've had a <v Speaker 6>big Foot siding and would like to be a guest, <v Speaker 6>please go to my Bigfoot Siding dot com and let <v Speaker 6>us know. 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