The Truth About Trump Accounts (Read the Fine Print) | Diving In
In this episode of Diving In, Justin Wolfers explains why the new Trump Accounts are actually two very different policies jammed into one. First, there’s the headline-grabbing piece: a one-time $1,000 government deposit for babies born in a narrow window between 2025 and 2028, alongside a permanent tax-advantaged savings account that mainly helps families who can afford to keep contributing.
The central problem, Justin argues, is that the biggest gains go to households with higher incomes, higher tax rates, and employers able to contribute on their behalf. He also takes apart the White House’s eye-popping projections. Those huge future balances depend on years of private saving, unusually optimistic market assumptions, and nominal dollar figures inflated by time and inflation. In other words: the glossy numbers are technically possible, but deeply misleading for ordinary families trying to judge what this policy really means.
Finally, Wolfers asks and answers the practical question: despite these flaws, is a Trump Account still a good choice for you? Depending on your goals, a 529 plan, Roth IRA, or even a standard brokerage account may be a better option. The stakes are high: if you mistake a tax break for populist policy, you miss who really benefits—and make worse choices for your own family’s money.
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There's been a lot of talk about what the president's calling Trump accounts. So I want to dive in with you and explore how this new policy will affect you, your family, and our economy. Here's the point. Babies get a thousand bucks, they get a little steak in the stock market, and over time, we're told the money grows into something much bigger. That's one story. Here's the reality. This is really two policies jammed together. One is a tiny, temporary giveaway for babies and only those babies born in the narrow window. The other is a brand new, permanent tax break. Hey, there's a lot to unpack here, so let's get into it. This is a story in five parts. First, let's talk about the baby story that they're selling. Second, I need you to know about the real story, which is a tax break. Third, I want to dig into who this helps. Spoiler it's well off families, and the reality is that this will increase inequality. Fourth, you may have seen some spectacally big numbers from the wide house. You're going to be a lot better off if you understand how those numbers are misleading. And Fifth, as you think about rearranging your financial affairs, let's ask, is a Trump account even the right account for you? Here's the big picture. The baby story it's simple, it's popular, and it's got some genuinely progressive roots. The tax story, it's more more familiar. It's another wrinkle in the tax code, another way for families who already have money to save and do a little better, which means this policy, in fact, is not about giving poor kids a leg up. Instead, it's more likely to widen the gap between rich and poor. So let's start with the bit the administration wants you to notice. The White House says that babies can get one thousand dollars from the government. They talk about the magic of compound interests. They show you glassy future balances. They wrap the whole thing and the language of opportunity and ownership and getting a head start in life. Politically, this is really clever, because the idea of handing a child and asset at birth it's not crazy. In fact, it's got a long and really pretty progressive history. There's a whole tradition of what economists called child development accounts or baby bonds. It's public money set aside for kids so that where your parents start in life matters a bit less for where you end up. That's the moral idea underneath all of this. If wealth inequality starts early, then maybe policy should start early too. And the progressive versions of this idea, they're usually trying to do three things. They want to make the contribution automatic, they usually make it a whole lot bigger, and they try to steer more of it towards the kids who start with less. Said that, in that case, the policy actually does what it says on the tin. Like take Senator Cory Booker, He's got a baby bond proposal. It's started with a public deposit of birth and then are piled on larger annual public contributions for poorer kids. The whole point it was to offset the unequal starting wealth, not just to provide tax subsidies for the wealthy to pass on more cash to their kids. Now, let's compare that with Trump accounts. Trump accounts take that broad moral intuition and they shrink it right down. They might even flip it on its head. So what is the baby part exactly? Well, if a baby's born between January one, twenty twenty five and December thirty first, twenty twenty eight, they can get a one time, one thousand dollars government contribution. If someone opens a Trump account for them, that's it. One thousand bucks, one time, and only if you're lucky enough to be born during Trump's second term. So yeah, look, there really is a baby bond sort of thing going on here. But mate, this is baby bonds after they've been through the wash too many times. It's the same idea, it's only smaller, it's thinner, it's more faded. And then come January one, twenty twenty nine, conveniently, just after the next presidential election. I'm sure that was a coincidence, that baby bond, it just vanishes all together. No other babies will ever get a penny. So the part of this policy with a progressive pedigree, that's the part that the administration made temporary, small and disposable. Hey, there's one practical thing I need you to know this program. It's not you have a baby, you get money. You've got to claim it if your kid's in the eligible birth window. So basically, if you gave birth under the second President Trump, you need to sign in through the IRS submit Form forty five forty seven. That's not a joke. That's the form number, and then grind through the account election and activation process, and at the end, your baby will be one thousand dollars richer. So let me say something plainly. If your kid was born after January one, twenty twenty five, or you reckon you might become a parent before the end of twenty twenty eight, go and fill out that form. Your baby's going to be one thousand dollars richer. I want the best for you. I want the best for your baby. But that plan it also gives away the priorities. The headline grabbing, family friendly, populist part of this thing only applies to four birth cohorts. It only hands over one thousand dollars. It makes families do paperwork to get it, and then it vanishes. So let's turn to the real policy. This is a bit they're not talking much about. The lasting part of the Trump accounts isn't the thousand dollars seed. The lasting part is the account and the tax breaks that people get for pouring their own money into it. Any eligible child can have one of these accounts opened before they turn eight. In these accounts will have tax advantages. That bit's going to keep on keeping on. It'll be there for future babies long after the next election. So if you've got one of these accounts, then during childhood, families can chip in up to five grand a year if they've got it. Employers can also add up to twenty five hundred bucks a year in a way that doesn't count as taxable income to the employee, and that money, of course, that does count towards that five thousand dollars cap. Look, let me slow down here, because this is where the economics really lives. Suppose that your employer hands you twenty five hundred dollars in wages. Normally, that's going to show up as income. That's going to go on your tax return. You're gonna have to pay tax on it. Now. So maybe your employee gives you twenty five hundred, but you only get to keep fifteen hundred. But if instead the employer drops that money into a Trump account for you and your kid, the law says, we're not going to count that as taxable income. Right now, your kid's account it's going to get the full twenty five hundred bucks. So this is what economists call a tax expenditure. It's the government saying, rather than writing you a check will help you out by collecting less tax, so the support flows through the tax code instead of through direct spending. But the effect and importantly the cost of the government is the same as if the government had sent you a check as a reward for saving for your kid. And here's the thing. Because it's a cut and your taxable income, it's worth more if you pay a higher tax rate. So if you're in a higher tax bracket, which is to say, it's like the government is making an even bigger contribution to savings put away for the wealthy. Okay, that's the employer contribution. And part of this, let's turn back to the family contributions, because both family and employer can contribute towards saving for the kid. On the family side, the tax break is actually a whole lot weaker and a little more complicated. So if a family puts in its own money, there's no upfront deduction. Instead, the family side benefit it's mostly this the money that you put in. It's the money your employer gives you after tax. You put it in and it can grow without annual tax on the gains like dividends or interests that accrue while it sits in the account. That then means that your money or your kid's money can compound without having to compete with a taxman taking his slice every year. But you will or your kid will have to pay tax at the end when they withdraw the money. This type of tax break, it's called tax deferral. Right, you do pay tax, you just defer it till after you've compounded it. And tax deferral can help, but it's often not the best deal. Look, I'll come back. I'll say more about that in the moment. So the real policy here isn't it is. It's not the government building wealth for children. It's the government creating yet and now that tax favored place to stash savings that you can give to your kids if you've got the money to give them. And that brings us to the question that really matters who wins from this tax break. Look, I wish the families that are struggling the most, but unfortunately that's not what this is about. Those families. Well, hopefully they'll watch this video and go grab the thousand bucks, but that'll be the end of the story for them. Now, wealthier families, they've got more money, they're more likely to be able to add money every year. They're more likely to be in the types of jobs where their employers are going to offer employer contributions to this savings plan. And they'll get real value out of the tax shelter because they're actually paying federal income tax at pretty high rates, and so that means that their benefit from dodging that tax makes it all the more worthwhile. So that's the heart of it, and once you see that, the logic falls out pretty quickly. This policy isn't so much opportunity enhancing as it is inequality exacerbating. It's more likely to lock in that old American rule. It's the one we all deny, but it returns to the reality of generation after generation. The rule is that your parents' station in life helps determine yours, and these accounts give them another way of helping reinforce this inequality. So when politicians talk as if this is going to give every child an equal start, it's deeply, deeply misleading. Sure, the same account exists for everyone, but the families with money, with higher tax brackets and better jobs are going to walk away with a whole lot more. And that brings us to the numbers let's talk about those great, big, glossy numbers. And I want to pause here because you can probably hear already from my tone of voice. I'm not impressed by the government, which has been floating some genuinely enormous figures. And so what I want to do is square the circle for you, so that you can understand what the government's saying, how it got there, and what your reality might look like. The White House put out a bunch of projections on Trump accounts dot gov that show that kids with Trump accounts might end up with huge balances because of this policy, hundreds of thousands, possibly even millions of dollars. These claims, they're ridiculous, they're dishonest, and they're misleading. Look, I can say those things while still conceding the arithmetic is real, but it's really in the narrowest possible sense. Those gigantic balances that Trump Accounts dot gov is promising they lean on three things that are wildly unrealistic for most families. First of all, decades of private contributions. The big balance that they say you're going to get at the end, it's not from the government giving your baby a thousand bucks. No, these are the results of simulations in which they assume that you feed five thousand dollars in year after year for eighteen year, the first eighteen years of your kid's life. Oh and if you really track the footnotes on the White House website, you'll figure out that not only do they assume you're putting five thousand dollars every year for the first eighteen years of your kid's life, they assume your feed in another seven grand a year into an IRA for the decade after that. So, look, the government did open the Trump account with one thousand dollars balance. But really, what's going on here is they're saying, if you do a lot of saving, you'll have a lot of money. Look, mate, you don't need much math to figure that out. Second, they made some unbelievably rosy assumptions about how the stock market will perform. Remember, these accounts are going to be invested in stocks, and so they assume incredibly strong stock market turns across long stretches of time. Quite literally, this is not a joke. This is literally the case. They're assuming that the highest ever recorded rates of return will just conveniently happen to repeat themselves when you invest in a Trump account. Thank you President. Hey, look I get it, that could happen, I guess. But this is a value saying. When I try to communicate facts to people, I usually try to represent what's likely to happen instead, and what's likely to happen is very, very different. Third inflation. A dollar in thirty years sounds like a dollar, but it's not. Inflation. Swollen future figures look impressive in a press release or on a website, but they turn out to be a whole lot less impressive when you try to spend them at a grocery store. If I tell you what something might be worth decades from now in nominal dollars, I can make the number look huge, even when it's actual purchasing powers a lot less impressive. The honest way to talk about the future is to take these numbers and adjust for changes in the cost of living. That's not what the White House did, and it makes a big difference. So overall the White House, it's big, glossy numbers showing a best case wishful thinking scenario in which families keep doing a whole lot of contributing, markets repeat their record returns, and inflation does the rest. And look, the point I want you to draw from this is do your own math, because the White House numbers are ridiculous. Okay, Finally, I want to address the question is this even the right account for you? Yes, a three thousand bucks is terrific, but what about the rest? Should you be stashing money for your kid's future in a Trump account? Here's the uncomfortable truth. The answer is that for a lot of families, it's not going to be the right choice. Remember when a family contributes to their kids account, the main benefit is tax deferral. The money grows without an annual tax on the gains. That helps, but usually you've got better options. For a lot of families, Trump accounts a less tax advantage than the alternative that you already have. These new Trump accounts they just add another layer of clatter to an already clartered tax and saving system. So let's just talk through a couple of the alternatives that I want you to look at instead. So, if the goal is to fund your kid's education, a five twenty nine is often better, first of all, and aside, who the all names these things? A five twenty nine as a way of saving for your kid's future Honestly, that sounds like a high way to Maine, not a savings plan. But the thing that's important about a five twenty nine is when you pull money out for education, it comes out tax free, not tax deferred like a Trump account. Tax free. That usually makes it a better savings vehicle. If your goal is retirement saving for a kid who's got earned income, a wroth IRA is usually the best option because the long run tax treatment is usually more generous. Look, it's another reasonable savings plan with just another terrible name. I know someone needs to go through this, someone from marketing. If your goal's just flexibility, then even just a plain old taxable brokerage or custodial account can stack up surprisingly well because those are treated as capital gains, and so you get a lower tax rate than you would get on a Trump account withdrawal. Okay, look, if all of that sounded like a lot of made up words and financial mumbo jumbo, let me just come back to the simpler advice. Do your homework talk with a financial advisor, or here's a surprisingly cheap alternative, talk with claude or chat GPT, which in this domain often give better advice. And I say that having checked before I give that advice. It's important you do this work. Don't put it off. It really matters, and ten minutes of research could well be worth thousands of dollars to your kid. So go ahead and do it. Press pause on the video if you need to. Doing your homework here really pays. And it pays because the account that the administration is hyping Trump accounts. They're not just over solid for a lot of families, they're not even the best tool in the draw. Okay, so where does this all? I don't want to overstate the criticism. If you're eligible for the thousand dollars, claim it free money is free money. Wait, I'm an economist. It's not free to the rest of us, but it's free to you. And I hope you get the point. If some families use this as one more savings tool, terrific. But let's not pretend that this is some great equalizing reform. The baby bond bit, which could be is small, temporary, and gone in twenty twenty nine. The lasting bit, the bigger bit, is another tax favored account, one whose main benefits flow to people with money to save, employers willing to contribute, and tax rates high enough that dodging taxes as a big payoff. That's not any sort of anti inequality policy. If you actually wanted to shrink unequal starting wealth, you'd make the public contribution big, are permanent, and better targeted at the kids who need it. If instead, what you want to do is hand already comfortable families one more tax favored shelf for their savings, it build something that looks a lot like this. And if you wanted to take that second thing and dress it up to make it politically palatable, well you'd name it after a baby. And that mate is the real economics lesson here. Not every policy with a smiling baby on the label is about equal opportunity. Sometimes it's just a temporary populist giveaway stitched onto a permanent tax break for those who need at least