Delanie Walker Enters The Inside The Bus Hall Of Fame | Inside The Bus

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to episode twenty of Inside the Bus. Jared's got he uh. This episode twenty, we had to have one of the greatest guests of all time, the future Hall of Famer, Titans Hall of Famer, and just one of the overall, just one of the boys.

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Speaker 2: Give it up for Delaney Walker. Thank y'all, Thank y'all, thank y'all for having me.

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Speaker 3: I think, hands down our favorite doubt of the talent, without a doubt. From day one. Always has shown love. He always comes to the back chops it up. There's a lot of stories that Delaney has for us that can't be shared on podcasts.

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Speaker 2: But he is here.

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Speaker 4: He has created and added.

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Speaker 3: To the culture of the back of the bus more than for sure, than anybody for sure.

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Speaker 1: And that's why this is this question that I was gonna I was talking about before. I feel like this question is only for Delaney and like he can only answer it. What was your first impression of each guy in the back since you've been You've been around to so much, you've hung out with so much, coming back and just chop it up, what is your first impression to beat you all us?

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Speaker 5: That's a good question, to be honest, with y'all because all y'all have something different about y'all but similar, you know what I mean? Right, definitely all white, for sure, all white, but uh, y'all just do something different. Y'all carry y'allself different, but when y'all get around each other, y'all kind of almost have that same thinking mindset.

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Speaker 2: And I like that.

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Speaker 5: But the first thing about you guys was I said what I thought about y'all were y'all go getters, bro Because I can remember from the beginning. I don't know if y'all was getting paid to do this or whatnot, but y'are not like y'all were grinding, you know, just seeing the videos whatever coming out, and honestly, like I can remember the first I don't know how many people worked on that first episode, but that first episode went crazy, and I think I got even more popular over fuck what it was? It It was, uh, these stories, draft, the type, no draft, the tight end, he won't fucking play like that. Ship went crazy, right, And then I realized, like they these dudes get it. You know what I'm saying, y'all get y'all get what makes ship works. Because even in the content now, people be like who man, you crazy? You funny how you put that together? And I'm like, it ain't me, It ain't me. It's this dudes that when you see him, you probably wouldn't even think they were doing that type of ship.

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Speaker 6: Y'all athletes, Yeah yeah, now yeah, y'all kind of y'all got athletic abilities, you know what I'm saying, for the most part, Yeah, for the most part.

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Speaker 5: I mean Jared, Jared is the gangster. You know, he he didn't play sports. He you know, pull up, rolling with the with the burner. You know, he he willing to sacrifice his life. No, but all you guys, man, y'all seem like y'all was like college dudes and then y'all has y'all.

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Speaker 2: Was hungry to be successful, and uh, that's what I like.

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Speaker 5: I like y'all. I feel like I kind of relate to y'all more than I relate to and Taylor. I don't know why, but that's what I feel right like, because after we get down with the show, it's like I.

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Speaker 2: Don't care about talking to them, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: I come want to talk to y'all in the back because the conversations are more real.

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Speaker 2: I think I feel interest like you're just.

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Speaker 1: Back at college, just hanging with a bunch of white dudes again talking about random shit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they feel like.

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Speaker 5: To be honest with is like I can I know I'm older than everybody in here, but like when I come around you guys, I feel like I'm one of y'all.

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Speaker 2: And that goes to y'all just accepting me. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: I know I'm crazy as hell, and uh, the stories we talk about. Then sometimes I get y'all to open up about personal stuff, and that's what I like about it because we kind of we throw punches at each other and keep it moving.

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Speaker 7: So while working on the topic of you remind you of maybe those college days, give us a little background story for anyone who's not aware of where you're from and how you got to where you were in college, and then then we can kind of go from there because I know there's gonna be a few listeners and maybe this is the first time hearing from you, but majority of probably nine nine percent, I heard everything but.

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Speaker 2: The one.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, So first I'll start off, I'm from Los Angeles, California. Long story, but I'm gonna give y'all that shirt short version. Highly recruited in college, but I got I mean in high school, but I got in trouble. I got a felony salt and battery coming out of high school, so I couldn't leave. To stay at California for two years. Pretty much did the Juco route. But when I was in Juco, man, I was just I was still around the same people, you know what I mean, and they didn't care for my future. And I didn't care for my future as much as neither because if I did the things that I did, obviously I didn't. But I had another opportunity. Man, Thank god for the Central Missouri state. They saw something in me. Was like, look, we want to give you a shot. We want you to come up here to Central Missouri. First off, never heard of Central Missouri, never thought I would be in Missouri. So I get to Missouri madominantly white school.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Like, Well, I get there and catch like if you black, you either play sports or ship you you you want to be white.

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Speaker 4: So at the time.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I know, I was like, Okay, it's either one shit. I guess I would choose to play sports for right now. But so I get there, I stay in the Dorn for the first year, I ain't really meet a lot of people. But then I met this guy named Corey Bringers, white guy. You know, Corey is still my dog. I still I still talk to him every once in a while. But so he plays safety and I was like, damn, man, I want to learn how to talk to white girls.

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Speaker 2: And he like what you mean?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he like what your I never talked to a white girl before, right, So, like Cau's coming from where I lived, it wasn't too many white girls. And if it was a white girl in our neighborhood, she was fucking busty, ratchet, disgusting. I ain't talking to at you know what I'm saying. She talking black and all that bullshit.

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Speaker 2: I don't want that.

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Speaker 5: So he's like, you know what, move in with me and my roommate. So it was three of those dudes living in this house. And he was like, you want to move in with us? So I said, yeah, let's do it. I move in with him. I never drank natty light, I mean fireball chewing. I mean I went up in there and my whole, my whole attitude changed on life, Like I realized I was stuck in a box. Man, my whole life, I've been stuck in the box, and I never experienced anything fun. And then when I got the Central and I lived with Corey and them, they took me snowboarding, they took me to the beach, They took me.

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Speaker 2: They pretty much showed me what I was missing out my whole entire life. And I love hanging with them. Like it was.

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Speaker 5: I remember like some for like the fraternity dudes would come like, man, why are you always messing with white boys? Like why you always hang with those white boys? And I'd be mad, like them my dogs, like you know what I'm saying, in my roommates, them my boys, Like any day you want to test them, you're gonna have to chop it up with me, because they showed me love.

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Speaker 2: And I never seen that before.

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Speaker 5: You know, like I said, I come from the hood, so like we've been always tall. You gotta be careful, you gotta do this, be careful around them. And but when I got there, it was like they didn't even see it that way. They were just like, bro, we brothers, you know what I'm saying. And I love that about them because I was different. You know, they had to relate to me because I was totally different, and I was saying things I've never seen before.

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Speaker 2: That made me just be like, damn, why they doing this?

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, not understanding it, but being there made me understand life is bigger than where we all come from, right because everybody gotta value differences because we don't know how that person grew up. And uh, they opened my eyes to a lot of stuff, man, and I was thankful. And then that goes to your question on why hang like hanging with y'all because y'all give me those vibes like it's the same. It's like, I don't care where d he come from. I don't care who he is. He cool with us, he acts like us. I fuck with him, and that's what I'm used to. So anytime I can relate to that, I kind of I guess I cling onto it, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: That makes sense right there? So that's real.

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Speaker 7: Wait, I remember back in the day, I don't know it was a couple of years ago. You talked about how when you first got there, those boys took you out like shopping and got your like new clothes.

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Speaker 8: You gotta you gotta least.

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Speaker 5: Yes, like I told half of it when I told her I wanted to get white chicks. And he really was like, dressed like that. That's how he told me, Like you look like an La like Hood movie. You know I was wearing at this time, I was wearing Jaebol's size forty two. I was wearing fire ix t like the te came down to my knees, ankles, like I'm talking about double.

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Speaker 2: I'm wearing boxers, basketball shorts.

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Speaker 5: Jeans, anything. I'm ready for anything. You know, I'm ready for anything. So he was like, dude, you're not gonna get no white girls out here like that. I'm like, I'm pimping you know what I'm saying. He's like, no, trust me you. We gotta take you to Armored Cambrie fit. Is that how you say.

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Speaker 4: Abercmbrish, Yes, it is exactly I said.

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Speaker 5: So he takes me there. I walk in there. I'm like, ain't nothing in here gonna fit me? Like that's what I was thinking, because you know, you you walk in, you know, the first thing you see the white boy with his shirt off.

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Speaker 2: He got the jeans on no belt.

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Speaker 7: That was back when Abercombie, like the marketing for it was literally just shirtless, ripped gans.

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Speaker 4: Smelt was crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: That's when I went in there and I'm like, dude, for real, like for real. And then he was like, don't worry, you know what I'm saying, tar these on.

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Speaker 2: I come out like and they kind of tight. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Everything was tight, Everything was tight. But he gonna put these in, put these shoes.

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Speaker 2: On with them. I'm like, oh, ship come together now.

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Speaker 8: The boy look at all right.

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Speaker 2: He was like, try these rainbows.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, man, nigga, nigga, don't wear open toe to uh sandals, you know what I'm saying. I just never done that before. I never wore sandals without socks, you know what I'm saying. So like when they shot me those, I tried to slide them on with the socks. I'm like, I'm like, yo, the sock the things they won't go through, so they like, you gotta take your socks off. I ain't gonna carry it. Took me a while to really buy into the no socks, but when I did, we had went to a day party first Darty. It was like that I was a new student and I already had been here. Everybody is like, hey, who are you. I'm like, I'm like, I'm number three.

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Speaker 2: Wait, you're number three? Oh my god? You know after that, I'm swimming, I'm blowing them back. I'm going back. I'm I'm going to uh navy blue.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to all the spots like, oh yeah, it's time to wear a little tighter d.

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Speaker 2: Here killing old.

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Speaker 8: That's so body.

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Speaker 9: It literally feels like like it'd be like a movie, like the reverse, Like like I don't know what it be, but it's like just two white dudes taking this dude from fucking like La Central and they're like we're on deck them out and then all of a sudden, you just take over the town.

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Speaker 2: Take over.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm wearing I go back home. Cats like, well, what the fuck are you wearing? Like my homies like, what are you wearing?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 5: I'm like, oh bro, yeah, I'm like, Yo, this is it. I'm telling like, hey, this is it. This is how you bust down. I'm like, We're gonna go to Ontario Mills. Watch how many white bitches I bust they like should wear to God? Can I cut yeah. Yeah, So I'm like, let's do it. We go to the meals. I'm I'm like, hey there, I'm just walking up.

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Speaker 2: They like you tripping. I'm locking up the white girls. How you doing? They're like, yeah, are you like this? Yeah? You know I got these in Missouri.

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Speaker 5: They don't have them out here yet, like right, killing them, busting to my homies.

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Speaker 2: They start switching. They let's start switching. They shot me a v ads go. I'm like, oh yeah, yeah that was.

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Speaker 4: Gone remotely gentrifying his old neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: They all dressed like me.

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Speaker 8: Now that's so.

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Speaker 4: Go sides down, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Go sides down always like if you if you, if you get too much goal sides down, I say, and find a stretchy ones. They bust so once I got put on, it was overweight. They couldn't tell me nothing at the school, dude, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Like would you change your journey at all?

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Speaker 2: Nah? Nah?

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Speaker 3: And inn't that crazy because I'm sure in those first two years, like if you're when you're in juco or when you're leaving high school knowing you can't go to big schools, probably like man, I wish I could do this differently.

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Speaker 4: Then you get forward. It's like, no, that was the best thing that could happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it was the best thing that could have happened to me.

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Speaker 5: But honestly, if I was to say, like that route I took, no, I would not want to take that route. You know what I'm saying. Like it was hard. It was hard, but it was hard because of me, you know what I'm saying. Like people sit here and be blaming other people all the time for like situational stuff, but it was really me. I could have chose not to hang with the hommies. I could have went to school every day, you know what I'm saying. I could have done those things, but I didn't want to at that time.

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Speaker 2: So was it the right thing for me? Maybe? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Because going to Central opened up my eyes because Willie Fritz, that was my head coach at the time, he uh he coaching at Houston right now, he was on me, on me.

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Speaker 2: At first.

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Speaker 5: I didn't like Willie, like I didn't understand him. You know, I didn't know what he wanted from me. As I thought he just hated me because I was from California. Because the first thing he told me and I'm sure you probably tell everybody this now because I made it. I come in. He goes one thing. I gotta tell you. I go what he goes, I hate people from California. I was tooking back. Yeah, I was tooking back. I said, oh okay. He said, you want to know why. I said sure.

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Speaker 2: He says, three weeks for three reasons, y'all smoked dope, y'all rape bitches, and y'all game bangers. He didn't say bitches, he said, he said yeah. He said everything he said, y'all rapist pretty much. He was like, y'all rapist. I'm like, I'm not two of those things. Here's where you got it all wrong, where you got it all wrong. But you know he told me that. He said, prove me wrong, show me who you really are. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I walked out of that room like, fuck this, dude. I ain't even gonna lie. I said, man, fuck Willie Fritz. I got on the phone and I called my juco coach. I said, I made a mistake. I want to leave. He said, d you can't leave like you you there, you signed the paper. If you leave, you're gona have to sit out a year.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, God, oh fuck it.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, whatever i'ma I'm gonna take I'm gonna bite this bullet. And then it was every day Willy just picked on me, picked on and picked on picked on me. But it like now a as the as the picture clears, he was just trying to make me a man, right, Like I was a big ass kid coming into a place where they teach you how to become a man.

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Speaker 2: But I was fighting that right.

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Speaker 10: At what point do you think you realized what he was, like, how hard he was on you, was for the right reason, or did you leave Central Missouri still being like fuck that dude?

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Speaker 2: I left Central Missouri like fuck that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like fuck Willie Fritz, Like I don't want nothing to do with Willie, but I think I will say year three in the NFL. Everything he was teaching me was coming to life, right, So I was like, God, damn will He told me about this will. He told me about this will. He said this was gonna happen. You know. It was just like life lessons was flashing through my eye and he cared about me.

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Speaker 2: I growing up where I grew up.

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Speaker 5: I didn't know that's how another man would care for another man, you know, because I never seen it like that before.

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Speaker 2: Like he was hard on me, but he pushed me. Yeah yeah, but he pushed me.

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Speaker 5: Like like I didn't get it what he was doing. Like I ran every day on Wednesday, me and him. He'll come get me at five thirty in the morning and we would run and he would run with me, though, but beat me, like just beat me, just bad. And I'm like, he was like, until you can beat me, We're gonna do this all day. I'm like, oh, damn me. So I did it until my senior year and then finally my senior year. I don't know, he just I guess I kind of woke up. I stopped being as crazy in my senior year, and he kind of let me alone. But when we lose a game, he'll be like you. He'll come up on the board, he'll be like, y'all know what we lost? And then he'll call Somebody'll be like, hey, Greg, why did we lose this game? And then he'll be like, oh, man, we had too many turnovers. She'd be like, Nope, that's not it. He'd be like, yeah, why would we lose this game. You'd be like, oh, man, we didn't tackle well in the rezon. Nope, that's not it. He'd be like, I'm gonna tell y'all all, we lost this game because the Laney did not play well.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy, Like damn much.

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Speaker 7: Were you like head of those shoulders, the best guy on your team?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I had crazy.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 4: Crazy, was crazy.

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Speaker 5: I was going ham but you know he knew it so hard to sit in there and hear that over and over.

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Speaker 2: Bro, I would sit there.

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Speaker 5: I mean we only we only lost two games my we lost one. We lost one game my first year, and then we lost two games my second year.

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Speaker 2: And uh yeah. It used to be tough.

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Speaker 5: But I'll be sitting in the meeting, bro, like I wouldn't even be zoned out.

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Speaker 2: I'll just be zoned out.

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Speaker 5: Like because my receiver coach during h we used to tell me like, don't let it get to you, because if you let it get to you, he won. Yeah, And I'm like, I don't know what that means, Like he getting to me.

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Speaker 10: Like perfect like coach in your position room to like kind of combat with the head coach is saying, but also being like listen to him, but don't let it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And he would do that all the time. A third coach H hell of a coach man. He used to him and his wife and his kids. They would bring me to dinner every week because he would be like, man, I know you can be.

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Speaker 2: A good kid.

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Speaker 5: I see it, like you're a hell of a player, but that needs to carry over off the field.

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Speaker 2: So they would just we would have dinner.

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Speaker 5: I would sit with his family, talk to his wife she, you know, have conversations with them. Just they'd be like, how you feeling what's going on? Like yeah, just like and I knew coach wasn't gonna tell the head coach because I didn't told him stuff and he ain't never went back, So I kind of had trust in this man. And and UH and him and Willie you know what I mean. They he hired Darren h just to coach me. He literally told me, like I hired this guy so he could coach you.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, what where is that coach H from? Uh?

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Speaker 5: He had just came from Arizona State, so and he knew about me because I had took a trip up the Arizona State So.

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Speaker 2: There H knew about me. So that's why he came out there.

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Speaker 3: Another great story from yeah yeah, oh yeah, that was.

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Speaker 7: In your journey, Like from you Co into Central, did you know you were always going league bound or was there like a moment when you like you get in trouble, you go Juco and you're like maybe this dream is no longer attainable and you're just kind of just trying to live out the last few years of a football career. Like at what point were you like, oh, shit, like I'm gonna go to the NFL and like this is gonna be a career for me.

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Speaker 2: That's a good question.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest with you, because like every time I got in trouble, I'm like, damn, I'm probably not gonna go to the league because this is gonna carry this baggage is gonna carry with me. And then I'll go to Juco and I'm like, I'm not thinking about the league, but then I'll ball out and then coaches be like, bruh, you can go to the league, Like and then I hear that again, like yah, yeah, I'm the shit again, you know what I'm saying, Like it was like hearing it and then I didn't get the grades to go to the USC, which I was supposed to go to, but I didn't get the grades. Inane, yeah, because it was me and Mike Williams. That's who they want. They was like Mike Williams and you on the other side. I'm like, hell yeah, like I was in. But that didn't motivate me. See that should have motivated me to get the grades. But see I was still running these streets thinking I was somebody I wasn't. So then I go to Central Now at D two, I'm like, I'm not going to the league, Like this is a rap, Like you know what I'm saying. I remember my mom sayd just go get get a degree and make something to yourself, because you know D two right, Like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well I'm gonna do that.

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Speaker 5: I just wanted to get away from the city too. So I go up there. My first year there, I go nuts. Though, I go nuts. I don't even know where this came from, you know what I'm saying. I'm just I'm out there playing on just just athletic ability, right, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't. I was out of shape. Like I did the conditioning test.

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Speaker 5: I didn't even pass it the first year I got there, I ran it every day and they just was like, dude, fuck that you like you done. I didn't pass it the first year. I couldn't The first year, I couldn't pass it. I couldn't even lift two hundred pounds for real.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't even lift two hundred pounds. I know, it doesn't even make sense. I couldn't lift two hundred pounds.

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Speaker 8: We get we'll get to that.

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Speaker 5: So they get there and they tested me. I can't even lift two hundred pounds. They're like, what the but you got remember at Juco, I didn't do nothing. If people, if people know me that went to Mount Sack, they tell you Delaney was a star. He barely came in the weight room, he barely did condition I would show up to practice and practice and that was it, and I leave when they had workouts. I went home, jumped in the web, went home. They never told me nothing, so I believe that's how it was. And then I got the central and they smacked me in the face like here, come on, conditioning test, get.

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Speaker 2: In the weight room.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't even lift two hundred pounds. They like, and we brought all the players and.

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Speaker 2: We brought this dude in here to start. Yeah, but guess what they put me on the field.

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Speaker 5: I ain't need none of that stiff arming running cats over like fucking weight room.

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Speaker 2: I'm screaming at who who works out?

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Speaker 5: Nobody, you know, I'm screaming it.

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Speaker 10: I want to think about how, like what a cheat code it was once. Still they did work out and condition and everything.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I want to see.

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Speaker 1: I wish you could find your like college highlights and stuff and just sit there just because I can imagine the people you're going against in Missouri, and it's like this just isn't even fair.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they some people will say, like, man I played against it. I see comments like man I played against that ship wasn't even fair. He was like a man of much giants, And it wasn't Because my senior year, once I started working out and running and lifting weights.

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Speaker 4: For guys, at least take you down.

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Speaker 5: They know I'm breaking all those tell you I'm stiff arming cats, I'm jumping over cast in the weight room. Yeah, I start getting in that weight room now. If you go to Central, I hold all the records for the wide receivers because I I didn't. That first year, I ain't even care.

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Speaker 2: I was beat every game.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, god, damn, I can't walk, you know what I'm saying. It was just like maybe I need to start working out, you know. And then I remember the off season, I didn't go home because I didn't have no money. My mom didn't have money to fly me home. So they got me a job at this car at this dealership. But my job was just to drive brand new cars every week, right, so like just so I can have money. So like the dude didn't come in. He also gave me a house to stay in. Like, yeah, the guy was hell of cool. He was I guess he was like a booster for the I wish I knew his name to give him a shot out.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry I don't, but he's.

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Speaker 5: Probably listening to So yeah, I'm sure his daughter because his daughter. So his daughter lived in that house and he brought her a new house, so they had moved out and let us move in there. And I, you know, I met his daughter and stuff, and he would just be like, hey, come pick up a car and I'll drive it. And when I dropped it out, he's like, you think of college shooting by this car. I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, most definitely, you know this.

00:25:01
Speaker 2: I loved it. He'd be like, all right, now it's a minivan, go check that out.

00:25:05
Speaker 5: So I'll draw different cars on off season. But I was working my tail off because I was there. So they like, since you hear, you need to come up here every day. So I'll go up there every day watching film. It just be me and the coaches. I'll work out with them. They'll all run with me, like cause they knew the motivation, like we can make this guy the player we know he could be.

00:25:27
Speaker 2: Oh man, he'll be unstoppable.

00:25:28
Speaker 5: So that my senior year, I gave all the credit to those coaches, and I'll tell y'all to this day like I still do because they they pushed me. They motivated me to get in the weight room, to condition, to study defenses. Man, am I'm telling y'all, when I first started playing, I didn't even watch film.

00:25:45
Speaker 2: I ain't do none of that.

00:25:46
Speaker 5: I just went out there, like, man, they can only do all they can only do four coverages, cover two cloud two man like man, are three right?

00:25:55
Speaker 4: And they can't cover me?

00:25:56
Speaker 2: And they can't cover me.

00:25:57
Speaker 5: You know what? I mean, so I looked at it as I just knew the game, but once I studied it, oh man, it was scouts start coming. I start seeing it because they used to be like, you put it into work, you're gonna start seeing the rewards, right, And I start seeing the rewards, they'd be like, Yo, look Arizona, Arizona here, the forty nine ers here.

00:26:16
Speaker 2: I'll be like, for real, So, was there ever?

00:26:19
Speaker 10: Okay, so you're talking about NFL after Central Missouri, Like obviously you think like you ended with a good season. What was the process like going into the NFL? Like combine draft process like all of that? Were you just like did anyone guide you in that direction? Or you're just kind of like, shit, I don't know how this is gonna work, but I hope it does.

00:26:42
Speaker 2: No.

00:26:42
Speaker 5: So, like by the second game of the season, I had came out in the ESPN magazine as.

00:26:48
Speaker 2: A sleeper, and the whole school passed out magazine. It was crazy.

00:26:55
Speaker 4: I walked around Magazine two at that time was.

00:26:58
Speaker 5: The magazine, and I'm in there like I got my own kind of page, like.

00:27:02
Speaker 8: A sleeper wearing rainbows.

00:27:07
Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, people like yo, this shoe, they like this shoe. I'm like, I didn't even know it was out. I'm like, oh, hell, yeah, where you get this from? They like, oh, they handed them out for free. I'm like they like, can you sign it? So I sign it? And I remember going to class and one of my professors go, why.

00:27:25
Speaker 2: Are you here? I go, we got class. She's like, no, you're about to be rich. I said what. She's like, yeah, the ESPN magazine. Everyone's handing them out. I'm like, oh yeah, I mean yeah, I get me any money yet. Yeah.

00:27:41
Speaker 5: I'm like I'm like, it's just a magazine. You know, we still got two more games.

00:27:45
Speaker 2: Did you keep a copy of it? My mom? Yeah, my mom got a copy of it, and yeah it is.

00:27:51
Speaker 7: I like to be a moment too, from like from how you've grown up, Like every moment where you've gotten a little bit of notoriety, you kind of like revert back to how you were and then like you're sitting and you just like why are you here?

00:28:01
Speaker 8: And you're maybe for.

00:28:02
Speaker 7: Like the first time, you're like no, like this is the beginning, Like I'm here because of this.

00:28:08
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:28:08
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how I kind of felt, because, like you said, every time I got.

00:28:11
Speaker 2: A little bit of notoriety.

00:28:13
Speaker 5: I almost reverted back to being an asshole, you know what I mean. So at this point I looked at it as an accomplishment, but I'm like.

00:28:20
Speaker 2: Nothing happened.

00:28:20
Speaker 5: These are just words and pictures, right, Like everybody took it and ran with it, but I didn't. And then when agents start calling me, it kind of almost start going off. I'm like, man, who the hell calling me from Houston? Like just crazy number. I answered, Hey, I'm an agent that man. You seen you came out ESPN magazine. What's your plans?

00:28:38
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I need to talk to my coach first.

00:28:40
Speaker 5: They're like, oh, if you tell your coach, you know he gonna tell you don't talk to me because we still had two games left.

00:28:46
Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, I ain't gonna tell my coach.

00:28:49
Speaker 5: Lying I go tell Willa, yeah, because I just don't want to get in trouble because I heard people getting in trouble. Reggie Bush had took some money and all of that craziness. So I was like, hey, Willy, I'm having agents call me. He like, don't you talk to no agents. I'm like, I'm not. That's why I'm telling you sir, like out of respect, He's like, when you need an agent, I'm gonna have an agent for you.

00:29:11
Speaker 2: I said, okay. Cool. I kind of took it as that and was like cool. So the season over, the.

00:29:18
Speaker 5: D two Bowl come out where all the top D two players playing in this bowl. And at this point, I'm talking to agents now because I'm like, shit, I need to figure out what's going on. Because Willie wanted me to talk to his guy, but I wanted to hear from other guys. Right, So I called about three agents and they said, do not playing that D two Bowl.

00:29:38
Speaker 2: They said, you're better than that.

00:29:40
Speaker 5: You're gonna get accepted into the D one Bowl, All Star Ball whatever.

00:29:44
Speaker 2: I'm like, you sure.

00:29:45
Speaker 5: They like your name is buzzing to not playing that bowl. So, long story shortcomes I get invited to the ball, they bring me up, they do the whole Dwayne Walker All Star Bull D two Bowl, and then I get up like, hey, I just want to thank everybody.

00:30:04
Speaker 2: I couldn't do this without the old line quarterbacks, right.

00:30:07
Speaker 5: My other receivers like, I'm thankful, but I will not be playing in a D two Bowl, and Willie went nuh. He was like, we need to talk after this. So we're going heat showing me out. You ain't not gonna represent the school in D two. Boy, I said, I'm gonna get in the I'm gonna be in the D one Bowl. He like, no, how you know you ain't. They ain't handling them out yet. I'm like, I know for a fact I'm getting in one. He like, you been talking to an agent. I'm like, I have been talking to a few agents that told me that my name is buzzing. He like, they just saying that they want you to sign with him. They all just saying that. Don't believe them. You're not gonna make it to a D one Bowl. So when he said that, I was kind of like, what, you don't think I'm that good?

00:30:47
Speaker 2: And like I'm just don't want you to be highs.

00:30:50
Speaker 5: And then the lows come and I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna think about it, but I'm not. Don't sign the paperwork, don't do nothing yet. So then my agent that I signed with, Vincent Taylor. I remember talking to him the most because he would just be like, look, you talented, It's up to you. He will always tell me it's up to you. You do what you want. I only get paid when you get paid. Everybody else was trying to tell me this money shit, but he was the only honest one. So I said, can you come to Central, Can you come to Missouri and meet me? Can we meet in person? He said, I'm on I'm on the plane. So he came over. We met in person and he was talking about the D one Bow and he I'll say, look, I have other agents told me I shouldn't play in the D two Bowl because if I get hurt, I won't be able to play in the D one Bow.

00:31:31
Speaker 2: He said, that is true.

00:31:32
Speaker 5: He said, I've been hearing noise about you getting into this D one Bowl, but it ain't They ain't pulled the list yet. I said, so, do you think I should play in the D two Bowl? He's like, nah, I don't think you should. I think you're gonna be in this D one Bowl. So I'm like, okay, I'm gonna run with that. I said, can you meet Willie Fritz? He said, oh, yeah, I definitely meet WILLI so him and Melly with him and Willy talked. He telled Willie to leave. He pulled me in. He said, I don't like that guy. I go why. He's like, he's only about money. Look at him.

00:32:02
Speaker 2: He's flashy. He got a purple suit on him. I'm like, yeah, I kind of like that suit.

00:32:09
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, I kind of like that. I think he looked clean. He's like, no, you need to meet my guy. Don't sign with him until you meet my guy, said Coach, just because you put me in this position, I'm gonna meet your guy, I won't sign with him. So I go out and go, Vince, stay here. I'm gonna meet with his guy tomorrow. I'm gonna make my decision. So we go to the steakhouse. Will he pay for all this stuff? His guy comes, Man, his guy comes with Daisy Duke shorts on flip flops.

00:32:39
Speaker 4: Yeah, the lady on a Saturday.

00:32:41
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. I see him coming out. I'm like that bet n not be him. This dude comes up to me. He comes up. I'm like, you the agent. He's like, yeah, I'm the agent.

00:32:55
Speaker 5: I work with Rod Green and all these other people that Rod went to the NFL too.

00:32:59
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh okay.

00:33:01
Speaker 5: He's like, look, man, you're not gonna get in that D one Bowl, so you should play in that D two Bowl. I'm telling you right now that I really told me you had buzz. There's no buzz going on about you playing in the D one Bowl. I said, all right, that's all right, we're done. I said, hey, we're done, Thanks for coming out.

00:33:16
Speaker 2: I'll leave. He calls with, what you disrespect my friend? Like that?

00:33:22
Speaker 5: I'm like, will he told me I wasn't gonna go to D one Bowl. He said, I wasn't gonna get drafted. Like, if you don't, if he don't believe in me, I don't believe in.

00:33:29
Speaker 10: Him, why would he talk to you if he doesn't think you're gonna go any like?

00:33:33
Speaker 5: That's what I said that he told me I wasn't gonna get drafted. He said, I'm probably gonna fall as a free agent, and I wasn't, And there's no buzz about me going to the D one Bow. So I said, okay, thank you. I said thank you. That's all I needed to hear. He was the only agent that kind of came o. I'm nervous to hear how this ends.

00:33:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So then I really get at me.

00:33:53
Speaker 5: Boom boom boom. I go, I go to Vincent's hotel. I'm like, we're the paperwork. I'm about to sign with you today, like I'm done with this ship. He's like, what happened. I'm like, it don't even matter. You know what I'm saying, It don't matter. Let's go.

00:34:06
Speaker 2: So I signed with him. He leaves. I tell Coach H first, I go with Coach H. I signed with Vincent.

00:34:12
Speaker 5: He goes, I like Vincent because I even had Coach H meet him and he was like, I like Vincent.

00:34:17
Speaker 2: Vincent was a good guy. So then he goes, you need to tell Willie though, I go, man, I'm scared to tell.

00:34:24
Speaker 8: Yeah, freaking out.

00:34:25
Speaker 5: I was scared, just like the phone like he was like, don't call him, go to his office.

00:34:31
Speaker 2: I'm like, god, I'm scared.

00:34:35
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was shook. I was shoot because after what I did to his friend too.

00:34:40
Speaker 2: I'm fucking shook. So I'm like, long story show.

00:34:42
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, I'm doing it. I don't care, man, it is, I'm a singer.

00:34:47
Speaker 2: I'm done. Like, I go up in there, he waiting, come on.

00:34:56
Speaker 8: You wearing the purple there, look the boy with Sweatnson like this.

00:35:01
Speaker 2: I come through the door. He's like, god, I'm sweating.

00:35:06
Speaker 5: Go in confident as soon as he does that, I'm like, damn, he just he rips me a new one, like how disrespectful am I to do?

00:35:13
Speaker 2: His friend like that.

00:35:14
Speaker 5: I brought you here, I'll put you in this situation, and now you're about to sign with this guy. I'm telling you right now, this dude is gonna end. He's gonna mess up your career. I'm like, yes, sir, I hear you, like I always respect never I'm like, yes, sir, yes, sir, You're right. That's something I'm gonna have to deal with if it happens. Like okay, well I'm telling you. He's like, you better not leave school. You better finish. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna finish. So after that conversation, I go back to the house and I'm telling all my roommates like, man, he just like I need to finish this and that. But Vince was already telling me he about to fly me to Houston and start training. So I was like, I don't even know how to say this, and they was like you should just go to Houston. Like all my roommates like, fuck, don't even tell Willie, like lead so if you see this.

00:36:05
Speaker 2: So then Vince was like.

00:36:08
Speaker 5: With how you feel you want to finish school or you want to go train, because like I feel like you need to train. You about to play against D one players, and I'm like, I'd rather go train. So then I moved to Houston and uh start training at Pleux for eight months and yeah, yeah, I was living in Houston, not going to school. I was just training and uh they sent my mom a bill Central Missouri State then, but they took it back though after after my agent and they lawyers got they took that ship back. But they sent my mom a bill. My mom got a bill for like three hundred some thousand. Like, what is this? Holy shit, I'm like, what you mean. She's like, Central Missouri just sent me a bill for three hundred thousand. I said, I went to school for free. She said, I know what is this bill. I'm like, hold on, send it to me. I got my agent Vincent on it. He's like, oh, hell no, that's not about to happen. And uh, they they pulled it back, said it was a mistake. They made a mistake. That wasn't supposed to being sent out to them. It was supposed to be picked up by the administration. They was gonna pay for but somehow that got sent to my mom, and uh, that pissed me off.

00:37:13
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna lie. That pissed me off.

00:37:14
Speaker 5: And uh, for the first few years, I ain't say even since I wouldn't say Central even on Monday night games, I wouldn't even be like, oh, Central Missouri State Mules like I would never I was just like put on the high school, you know, because that's that I feel like they did me wrong. But again, you know, like I did them wrong, like it was vice versas, Like he told me to stay in school and I did it right.

00:37:36
Speaker 2: You know.

00:37:37
Speaker 5: I needed to train though, like I was training with all D one players once I went to Plex. I was around all these top athletes and almost keeping up with them. So I'm like getting confident, like, oh this ain't this, ain't this, ain't nothing. I'm about to I'm about to shine, you know what I mean. So then I play in that D one Bowl game. Guess who the head coach, Jim Horball. Yeah so man, so Jim Harball the head coach.

00:38:02
Speaker 2: He loves me. He like you do everything. I was doing everything.

00:38:06
Speaker 5: With him, and he was just like, dude, you you should get drafted, Like he would tell me that, like, you can play multiple positions. They had me at running back, tight end, receiver, all that, and uh so then I go to the Combine. I got invited to the Combine after that Bowl because I put on a play.

00:38:24
Speaker 2: They was like, who the hell was.

00:38:25
Speaker 5: Just Dlayney Walker coming out of nowhere making catches, making plays.

00:38:29
Speaker 2: I get invited to the Combine.

00:38:32
Speaker 7: What's the feeling like when you finally get that invite and you're like, all the ship you've gone through, whether it's self inflicted or like battling with coaches, and just like the university, what's that feeling where you're just like, like.

00:38:43
Speaker 2: I have an opportunity to go to the show.

00:38:46
Speaker 5: No, it was like better than sex, you know what I'm saying that, Yeah, it was like because you know that that feeling that sex is.

00:38:55
Speaker 2: The best feeling in the world.

00:38:56
Speaker 5: But this this feeling that I got knowing that because my Vince would say, you put into work, it's gonna all come to you.

00:39:06
Speaker 2: Because when he I'll be like.

00:39:07
Speaker 5: Man, I don't want to go to Houston and train, Like trust me, you put in the work, it's gonna come. And I remember when he hit me like, there you going to the com I look, I'm getting goose bump on my legs already, Like I'm like what, he like, you made it?

00:39:22
Speaker 2: I like, I'm tearing up, you know what I'm saying.

00:39:24
Speaker 5: I'm on the phone tearing up, like I can't believe it, man, I can't believe it was right.

00:39:28
Speaker 2: He's like, no, it was all you. It wasn't me. I ain't do nothing. You did that.

00:39:34
Speaker 5: And I just just chill like I'm like, God, damn, I fucking made it, you know what I'm saying.

00:39:39
Speaker 2: I'm crying. I'm telling myself like I made it. And then I called my mom like Mom, I'm going to the comba, I'm be on TV. She's like, what you go? You made it.

00:39:47
Speaker 5: I'm like, I made it. I'm gonna I'm gonna. This is my opportunity. I'm gonna take advantage. I'm getting drafted. And I just kept saying it like I'm getting drafted.

00:39:56
Speaker 2: This is they put me in. Yeah, they put me in. They made a mistake.

00:40:00
Speaker 5: Now I gotta show up and uh, the journey just you know, the journey taught. It came, you know it came, and I've rolled that thing. Boy, I rolled that that mustang like, I ain't letting go. You know what I'm saying.

00:40:16
Speaker 7: When you went to the combins a receiver at this time? Yes, and so what point did you transition receiver to tight end? Was that a couple years into the league or was that right when you went to forty nine ers?

00:40:27
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm glad you said that.

00:40:28
Speaker 5: So, like when I got to the combine, we had a trainer named Danny Arnold. Danny Arnold at the time was one of the best trainers in football. He goes, you may be a receiver, but I think you may play tight end.

00:40:43
Speaker 1: How big are you at this time two twenty so like six?

00:40:49
Speaker 5: And he goes, I think they may put you at tight end. I go, man, why you think that? He like, I just hear it's a lot of noise about you playing tight end. So he was putting me through the ringer of like working out. By the time I get to the combine, I'm two thirty five.

00:41:08
Speaker 4: Pounds.

00:41:09
Speaker 2: Yeah I'm in there.

00:41:10
Speaker 5: Because he was like, you could either be a David Boston. Are you going to be a tight end? That's what he used to call me all the time, David Boston. You David Boston used to say that, David Boston.

00:41:19
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't take stare with David Boston. Yea, I don't do that. But uh so he was saying that.

00:41:28
Speaker 5: And then I get drafted as a receiver with the forty nine ers because it was all through. They told me it was all because of my forty times. My forty time was good, so they drafted me. It was at forty time, full four to seven or full forty nine type shit.

00:41:40
Speaker 2: Yet Rick mitch.

00:41:43
Speaker 5: So and then I get to the forty nine Ers. We two three weeks and I'm playing receiver. I'm wearing number seventeen.

00:41:51
Speaker 2: We had Mike.

00:41:52
Speaker 5: Martz as an offensive coordinator, and I was with Mike Nolan as.

00:41:55
Speaker 2: A head seventeen. Yeah, I was wearing seventeen, seventeen to forty six.

00:42:01
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so seventeen right, and then I call in the locker room, I come in.

00:42:06
Speaker 2: Oh so I go home. We come in the next day.

00:42:08
Speaker 5: I used to get there early because they wanted me to do a workout and stuff early, you know, rookies. Got I get there and I'm like, damn, they move my jersey, they move my locker because I see forty six, and I'm.

00:42:21
Speaker 2: Like, damn.

00:42:21
Speaker 5: They move my locker and they're like, no, no, no, you you forty six. You need to get your playbook and go see Mike Bartz. I'm like, for what, I'm getting cut. They're like, no, no, you're not getting cut. Go just go talk to them. So I go up there. He's like, I know you saw the jersey. I was like, yeah, I don't really like that.

00:42:41
Speaker 7: Numbers go from seventeen forty six.

00:42:46
Speaker 2: That's like, it's like, I'm getting cut.

00:42:50
Speaker 4: I got about one more week.

00:42:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like I'm getting cut, Like that's all.

00:42:54
Speaker 8: I was thinking, You're right, man, I'm sorry, finished school.

00:42:57
Speaker 5: Yeah. So saying there, I'm like Jesus Christ, I said, I don't really like that number. Like I literally because I'm thinking he was cool, like Mart's was cool, but he wasn't cool right now. He's like I don't give a fuck. I was like, oh damn shit, Oh we're not cool right now. He's like, no, we're moving you to tight end the h back. You ever heard of it? I said, nah, I never heard him. He said, well you better learn we're gonna cut your ass, all right, go fuck forty six of this just like that cold. I'm like, oh, oh, you're not joking, okay, like cause he was joking. He's joke a lot when I first got there, but now he's not even said So as soon as I get in, I get on the phone, Man, I'm about to get cut. You gotta start looking for another team. He like, what do you mean? I say, they just moved me to tight end. He goes, okay, I can't play tight and he said, d I ain't never seen you fold for anything.

00:43:47
Speaker 2: You're gonna fold today.

00:43:49
Speaker 5: Over a number, well over a position change. I said, man, I never played the position.

00:43:54
Speaker 2: I said.

00:43:55
Speaker 5: They got Vernon Davis like, you have seen this guy? He like six three, two hundred seventy pounds.

00:44:01
Speaker 2: Like I can't.

00:44:02
Speaker 5: I can't do what he's doing. He was like, I never seen you quit on anything. Showed me show them who the fuck you are. I said, you know what, Vince, You're right. I'm gonna go out there. I gonna be the best non blocking tight end I can be, because that's I.

00:44:17
Speaker 2: Didn't know how to block. Right.

00:44:19
Speaker 5: So I get out there, I'm getting cussed out like a doll bro. I'm missing every playoff step all. Oh yeah, stepping the wrong way. One game they put me in a game. I can't even believe it. Right, they put me in the game that year for my rookie year as a lead blocker. I go the wrong way. You hear Frank gord Man, what do you you do? He's getting the ball because I ran the wrong way. Frank Gore screaming at me during the play because I'm going that way. I was supposed to go that way. Because I ain't know what the hell I had. They threw me in a game. I don't even think I practiced this play one time. I'm like, what you didn't want to You didn't want to ask?

00:44:58
Speaker 2: Where do I go? Nah? Nah?

00:45:01
Speaker 4: Jim Harball said, who's got it better than us? Whoever? Delaney's supposed to be blocking?

00:45:06
Speaker 2: But uh was har about the head coach your rookie year?

00:45:09
Speaker 5: No, No, it was Mike Nolan was the head coach by rookie year. Mike Marts was the offense coordinated And I don't know why they threw me in on the offensive play because I only played special teams really, and for some reason, they was like I was standing there, Uh to Pete Pete Pete Hayner was my coach position. Coach, he go, you win.

00:45:28
Speaker 2: I'm like me, I'm literally like me. He like, get the hell in there. I'm like, oh running, I'm like, I hear the play, I'm like, oh ship.

00:45:39
Speaker 8: Let's scary ship. Ever, bro, the whole stadium is just so loud, and.

00:45:44
Speaker 4: Then it's gonna be it.

00:45:47
Speaker 2: No idea.

00:45:48
Speaker 4: I feel you no idea too. You're like, I don't want to be that guy.

00:45:50
Speaker 5: I didn't want to be that guy just getting to play the first time at least no it was Alex Smith.

00:45:57
Speaker 11: And then you have a legend like Frank Gorele just like yelling at you midplay.

00:46:01
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh ship. Like so I go to the right, which I was already messed up. I was supposed to go to the left and motion to the right, but I went to the right, motion.

00:46:09
Speaker 2: To the left.

00:46:12
Speaker 5: He probably he probably when he saw me on that side, he probably like, Okay, the clock must be down blindy over there.

00:46:17
Speaker 2: But once I motioned, I hear him go. I hear him say something like that. I look back at the ball. I didn't block nobody neither, because it wasn't nobody to block.

00:46:29
Speaker 4: This might be easier than he thought. He was getting the ball.

00:46:31
Speaker 2: I kind of ran my hands up. They're like, why the fuck you is throwing your hands up?

00:46:36
Speaker 7: You ran the road, they pull you pulled me out.

00:46:41
Speaker 2: That the only place the whole time, that whole game.

00:46:45
Speaker 4: You're forty six, you're forty seven.

00:46:47
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I'm getting cut. I'm gonna get cut after this game. They but I remember my tight end coach that you lucky, you a hell of a special teams player, because they I was telling them to get rid of you, like.

00:47:01
Speaker 8: Even in your year.

00:47:03
Speaker 7: Do you think that, uh Fritz, like all that bullshit that you had to like endure through college and him like frying you in front of the team like almost set you up for success, Like because like every.

00:47:13
Speaker 8: NFL coach is gonna dog cuss you if you mess up.

00:47:15
Speaker 7: So like in a way, did it ever kind of be like damn, like maybe like he was a great coach for me.

00:47:21
Speaker 2: No, he was a great coach for he was on some NFL shit.

00:47:24
Speaker 5: He normalized me from being like bothered by getting cussed the fuck out, like because at first I used to get mad when he cussed me out, but then they started to just be like, Okay, it's normal, he's just cussing me out. So then when they got to the NFL and the coach cussed me out, I just be like, well he cussing me out, it's a good thing, you know what I'm saying.

00:47:41
Speaker 2: That's what I started.

00:47:42
Speaker 5: Thinking, like, well, he want me here because he cussing me out. Like if I can't put you in the game because you don't know what you like, they would they will always say that, like my first year, we can't put you in if you don't know what the hell you doing. And I just spoke back one time like, man, give me some reps, then you know what I'm saying, and that he was kind of like.

00:48:00
Speaker 2: You want reps? All right, We're gonna get you fucking reps. And that's that's how it started.

00:48:05
Speaker 3: Who would you say was like your best, your most influential role model?

00:48:10
Speaker 5: I like coach Wise, p ain't. Oh my god, Painter turned me into this dog I was not. I was a receiver. I was a pussy foot receiver. I like, I would break tackles and steff farm people, but I would never go stick my head in there. Now I will worry about getting my toes stepped on, like hurting my hands. I was like a pretty boy receiver at the time, and so becoming the tight end, I would be blocking on my tippy toe. He'd be like, right, you're scared to get your feet stepped on, Like I'll step on your feet right now, like stuff like that. I'm like, what the hell? And he just he would just make us. He made us dogs like he He just was like, we're gonna hit.

00:48:52
Speaker 2: I don't care.

00:48:52
Speaker 5: We're hitting every day, so we'll come out hitting just each other, just because he was like, y'all gonna be tough. One thing we gonna be is the tough his dudes on this team. And Pete Hanter was that guy. He taught me how to play the position. He taught me how to be good at the position. He just was a great coach.

00:49:09
Speaker 1: You talked about when you got drafted there and then they moved you to tight end, Uh, like Vernon Davis being there, and like, obviously we all know how tight you were with Vernon, but is there any like vern stories you can share that, like you're able to share that, it won't if you're like you said, man, Vernon was like like that we was that was my dog, Like Honestly, people thought I was, like, it's homie.

00:49:36
Speaker 12: They didn't think I played for the Titans like your stories you tell us Vernon.

00:49:39
Speaker 2: Yeah so funny.

00:49:40
Speaker 5: Yeah, they thought like I was the homie because like somebody tried to press Vernon. You know what I'm saying, I'll run over there and just start.

00:49:49
Speaker 2: Fighting him, like you know what I'm saying.

00:49:51
Speaker 5: Because my dog was like like Vernon will be like, we'll play a game, say we just played at Candlestick, and he'd be like, bro, you want to go to Vegas.

00:49:58
Speaker 2: I'm like like right now, like y'all got private jet, let's go.

00:50:02
Speaker 5: Don't bring no clothes. I'm gonna buy him for you. I'm like, what, like, y'all, I'm gonna get all your ship the word, let's go, and.

00:50:08
Speaker 2: We'll go to Vegas. Turn up, he get a big old villa. You know what I'm saying. We packing that thing out, I mean packing it out and uh clothes. My dog did a lot.

00:50:21
Speaker 5: You know, my dog would do all types of shit, but a story, if I could tell a story, man, we didn't.

00:50:39
Speaker 4: We actually really didn't do that much out there.

00:50:42
Speaker 5: We used to, like Vernon, you know, with his situation. I never want to mess up what he got going on with his fiance and stuff. So like all everything we ever done was epic, you know what I mean? It was we had fun with epic, like Vernon was.

00:50:58
Speaker 2: Ben. Vernon was like, I know, I wasn't his brother.

00:51:00
Speaker 5: I can never take his brother's spot because him and Vante was like that too, But like at that point we was like bros.

00:51:07
Speaker 2: Like we did everything together. I mean everything.

00:51:10
Speaker 4: He gave you car, right to drive around and oh.

00:51:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, he would let me drive his cars. But we had a we had a white homeboy named Brandon. He can probably see this because he follow our content and Brandon, Yeah, and he gave he gave Brandon a hell Cat Challenger. Just get hell yeah hell Cat Challenger, Like.

00:51:32
Speaker 2: I wanted it. I wanted that. I wanted that.

00:51:36
Speaker 7: Car like he gave around with Vernon. You're like, damn, Like I'm so glad, I'm tight end.

00:51:42
Speaker 5: Like yeah, you know, every time we went out to like food, bottles whatever, he paid for it. So I was like, damn, thankful, you know what I'm saying. Thankful that I walked into this room with him. But the first time I met Vernon, he didn't know how to deal with me, because y'all know I'm kind of crazy, you know what I'm saying. So, like, the first time I meet Vernon, he shakes my hand, but he domned there break my fucking fingers right, and I'm like, damn, cuz, don't ever shake my hand like.

00:52:07
Speaker 2: That jokingly with him. He looked at me like what the hell. I'm like, no, I'll with you, big dog, like, don't hand But then I was like, yo, for.

00:52:17
Speaker 5: Real, don't do that again, though, bro, Like because he and he squeezed tho, I'm like.

00:52:23
Speaker 4: He's making sure you don't take a spot.

00:52:25
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, damn, bron, I'm like, don't squeeze my heat like what I'm like, bro, I'm fucking with you, but no, but don't ever do that ship again.

00:52:32
Speaker 1: I mean that just kind of goes to show, like because he's he went to Maryland, but is he from the East Coast? Yeah, he from DC, but it's just like you being from LA and yeah, it's like that's just the melting part of the NFL.

00:52:43
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna get y'all story because I don't even care. Fucking it is what it is. Okay, So Vernie used to have.

00:52:49
Speaker 4: This is the one when you went to the gay party.

00:52:51
Speaker 5: Right, No, I have fun at that party. Uh uh No, I wasn't with So Vernie used to.

00:53:11
Speaker 2: Have the Vernon David Weekend in DC. And I mean, like these these parties blowouts crazy.

00:53:20
Speaker 5: So like Vernie used to have, he would rent out the whole hotel for all all the athletes, all the friends and stuff, and and downstairs it will be like fifty girls waiting in the lobby.

00:53:34
Speaker 2: But whoever. I mean, like.

00:53:40
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, this happened in like two thousand and eight, y'all two thousand and nine, so even long ago, a long time ago. And you know, you take a girl up. So we all had two rooms capacity sold out.

00:54:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, we all got two rooms. Go up.

00:54:04
Speaker 5: You take the one you've been chilling with all through half the day, knock her down, go downstairs, find that other one you've been talking to, take them upstairs.

00:54:17
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought, I ain't gonna care. I try. I almost moved to DC. This was a trade. I'm like, hey, no, I'm like, Vernon, where should I get a house at? He like, don't move here.

00:54:30
Speaker 5: I'm like you sure, like, don't do it because Vernon weekends was the best weekends I've never seen. I've never been a part of anything like that other than his weekends.

00:54:43
Speaker 2: And I'm talking about every year.

00:54:47
Speaker 5: Every year, cats walking butt ass naked in the hallways.

00:54:52
Speaker 2: Not me, I.

00:54:54
Speaker 5: Don't get down like that, but some cats, do you know I'm talking about you come out, they just walking butt naked to the to the other room.

00:55:03
Speaker 2: You're like, what the.

00:55:05
Speaker 5: No, Welcome to DC. Chocolate City?

00:55:10
Speaker 4: Is that what they're calling it.

00:55:11
Speaker 2: That's what they call it, Chocolate City?

00:55:13
Speaker 8: Like, we're kind of.

00:55:13
Speaker 7: Like skipping ahead. But I mean, you have you have such a long career. We have to we obviously have to get a little Titans sock can. When you got traded to the Titans, what was your initial thoughts.

00:55:24
Speaker 5: I knew Chris Johnson, so when I got traded to the Titans, I'm like, so, the only thing I remember about Titans they came to San Francisco and beat our ass.

00:55:34
Speaker 2: Chris Johnson, Yeah, Chris Jawnson went nuts.

00:55:36
Speaker 5: And Randy Moss I don't even know, he had a field day that game with Collins. Y'all had Collins that quarterback, So I'm.

00:55:44
Speaker 4: Like'sure friend of the show.

00:55:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, Okay, the Titans. I'm going to the Titans. I didn't care.

00:55:49
Speaker 5: I didn't say nothing about the record. And now I'm like Chris Johnson, that's all. I was like, Like, they got Chris Johnson, were about to be cold in the motherfucker.

00:55:59
Speaker 2: But then I got out.

00:56:00
Speaker 8: Here, ken it was.

00:56:04
Speaker 5: It was it was munchack. So I got here and and I realized it was the organized like it was a lot going on that a lot of people don't see because you're outside looking in.

00:56:23
Speaker 7: But it was the facilities going from San Francisco to Nashville.

00:56:27
Speaker 2: Night and day.

00:56:27
Speaker 5: I mean, we didn't have a we didn't have a cold plunge. They didn't have a hot tub.

00:56:33
Speaker 2: What year did you come to the Titans? Twenty thirteen?

00:56:37
Speaker 4: So we were a team not to have a teen years.

00:56:41
Speaker 2: They didn't have none of that. They didn't The facilities were.

00:56:45
Speaker 4: Like locker room, not even.

00:56:48
Speaker 5: A hot and it was they was making the food outside. We didn't even have a kitchen or they was bringing it in. Yeah, it was it was wild. I was eating McDonald's. I was eating McDonald's the first year. I'll go to get McDonald's every day at lunch big Max double cheeseburgers with Max sauce, no pickles.

00:57:09
Speaker 2: So like it was, it was. It was. It was bad, but they were they were growing and and that's.

00:57:14
Speaker 5: Why our records showed the way it showed, because it was just like, you know, mister Adams, he was you know, he was older, he was getting old. He was to that point where you know, he he really didn't do day to day activities with the football team. I didn't even I only met him once, you know, when I first got I only met him once. And this is what he said when we met him at the game we lost, I think to the Jaguars.

00:57:44
Speaker 2: He come in, he goes, if.

00:57:45
Speaker 5: We had a quarterback, we would have won that game with the quack with the quarterbacks sitting right there in his face. I said, oh ship, I said, this owner crazy. He and then they they ran him up out of there, you know what I'm And they got him, took him out, and then people was like, man, you see now, you know what I'm like.

00:58:06
Speaker 2: I mean, he was telling the truth. He was telling truth.

00:58:10
Speaker 5: He made me seen now because he's saying stuff he should be saying right in the player's face.

00:58:14
Speaker 2: But he was telling the truth though, you know what I'm saying.

00:58:17
Speaker 5: You know how old people they can't say the truth. They just say the truth. It don't matter who it hurts. He just said it, and they was like, that's the owner.

00:58:28
Speaker 2: I said, Okay, that's that's what's up. And you know, a few years later he passed away. But coming here, I really didn't have no thought. I just knew that it was a new opportunity for me to be good. And then we had Chris Johnson.

00:58:42
Speaker 5: Like in my mind, I'm like, with Chris Johnson, i ain't got a block long, you know what I'm saying. So I was kind of thankful to have Chris Johnson on our team. And obviously, you know it didn't work out the first few years for us, but you know, it started to develop.

00:58:57
Speaker 7: I feel like for your personal career, just as like a fan watching, like there has to be something say, like it was huge for you because you became a star in a low market city even though it wasn't the forty nine ers, and playing with like all those guys like you, you grew such a like name for yourself and like to this day, they are lifelong Titans fans that like are like if we could just have a Delaney Walker still back playing and that's that says something, which is I mean it fires me up, like sitting here interviewing you when like I'm in the stadium in like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, coming home from like college on like a random weekend, and I'm like, you know, I mean, at least we got like a couple of dogs that sh it's cool, and like sitting here, it's like, damn, it's crazy.

00:59:39
Speaker 10: So you got here in twenty thirteen, When did Marcus get here? Twenty fifth, sixteen, fifteen fifteen, right after Taylor got here.

00:59:48
Speaker 4: Yes, started stacking.

00:59:50
Speaker 5: We started stacking because you got to think about it, Like Rusting was our GM at first. But Rustling was so used to having nobody who went to the RAM Why can't why is his name?

01:00:05
Speaker 2: He's a coach. He went to the Rams, Jeff Fisher, Jeff Fisher.

01:00:10
Speaker 5: So they were so used to having, yeah, the Saint Louis Rams, So they were so used to having Jeff Fisher and his mindset.

01:00:17
Speaker 2: Because Jeff Jeff Fisher was the.

01:00:19
Speaker 5: He was the mastermind of the Titians being successful. We all can say that, like good coach, great coach. I'm sure he was the one saying what players were going to pick, because he's that kind of coach that's going to control the narrative, right, But then you get munch Check Rusting and then Wizn't Hunt Rusting. Like the picks we were bringing in, you know, they were yeah, they were taking you know what I mean, it wasn't It didn't look good, you know, for the organization. And then like we Rustling get fired, they hired y'all know who, y'all know who? The next gym was Robinson. I don't know why they slipping my mind right now, So we hired Robinson. Robinson comes in with this resume of like knowing how to find talent, right, so he has Isn't Hunt Mike Malarkey Mike right. If you look at those three years, look at the draft picks we had, it shows who was really in control of the draft picks at that time because we were stinking it up. We was bringing cats in and was like, why the hell who is this dude? Like where did he come from? And then it went to Marcus Mariota, Dereck Henry, Taylor.

01:01:44
Speaker 2: Taylor Lawan.

01:01:45
Speaker 5: I mean the list goes on of cats who was putting in work on the team, and then just we start getting better, you know what I'm saying. But now we're having that log again where we're drafting cats.

01:01:58
Speaker 2: They ain't doing nothing.

01:01:59
Speaker 4: Jack has the thousand yards stare going as you're as.

01:02:01
Speaker 10: I'm talking about, but you're thinking, you're saying right now, after that j Rob period, started doing that again.

01:02:08
Speaker 5: And start doing that. After the j Rob period, it started doing that again. Was like, let's get.

01:02:14
Speaker 2: Seat fillers instead of opportunists players. You know what I mean.

01:02:18
Speaker 5: These cats come in and be like, I'm here, I'm good, just happy to be I'm just.

01:02:23
Speaker 2: Happy to be here, you know what I mean. I'm happy to be here instead of those dogs. You know what I mean?

01:02:28
Speaker 5: Because if you look at Jeff, Jeff was Robinson. Yeah, people kind of forget that. Yes, yeah, people forget that. I'm like, that was Robinson. Like everything after Jeff.

01:02:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, in comparison he did Jeff and a j A.

01:02:52
Speaker 4: Trade is truly the only thing that ruined him.

01:02:55
Speaker 2: I know. That's what That's what got them fired. One bad decision.

01:03:00
Speaker 10: Going back a little bit like when Marcus got there, obviously he was what number two pick behind Jamis.

01:03:06
Speaker 4: That first game against the Bucks.

01:03:08
Speaker 2: He went crazy, went crazy.

01:03:10
Speaker 10: Were you like, oh shit, like this is the dude like Marcus.

01:03:13
Speaker 2: Is for real?

01:03:14
Speaker 10: Yeah, what was your relationship like with Marcus? I mean obviously you were his only target for a very long.

01:03:19
Speaker 5: Time when Marcus first got there. I love Marcus because he was the type of player, like he don't say much right, but he take the blame. He'll go out there throw for three hundred some yards. We lose, it's his fault.

01:03:34
Speaker 2: I could have played better.

01:03:35
Speaker 5: I could have played better. I could have played better, but they didn't tell you. They didn't tell you. This dude dropped five passes. That dude fumbled the ball, and it would be like a trickle effect. But it always came back to Marcus because Marcus is going there like it's my fault. If I would have threw for four hundred yards, maybe we would have won.

01:03:57
Speaker 2: You know.

01:03:57
Speaker 5: It was one pass I should have thought about. I shouldn't have thrown it, you know, and then he'd take that blame. So I loved him because he never blamed nobody. He always was like, I gotta be better, you.

01:04:08
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

01:04:09
Speaker 5: And I looked at it as this is a guy who's gonna die for you no matter what he can, and he know it's your fault, but he gonna go in that room and go.

01:04:18
Speaker 2: That was my fault. It was a bad pass.

01:04:21
Speaker 5: If I would have put it on the money, he probably would have called it. He always did that and I loved him for that. But he came into an organization where they are hard on quarterbacks. They're really really hard on quarterbacks because we had great ones played for the Titans and the Oilers. So anytime that person, that quarterback is not playing at that level that they feel he should be playing, it always goes back. That's why he's still on the stadium. That's why the players that people compare everyone to, they still on the stadium. But all the other players not but those two players, right, and that you're gonna get compared to them every time. See Derek Henry, he held that stigma. So no one ever said that, nothing about Derek being as good as George, because he was. But now, oh, we don't we need an Eddie George, right, you know, we we need a mcnaire. But now, I mean, cam Ward is doing this, but he has no help at all.

01:05:20
Speaker 2: So like we we.

01:05:20
Speaker 5: Put our quarterbacks in a blender because they get beat the fuck up. Oh y'all have y'all seeing what I'll see them and Joe Burrow running run for their life, taking injuries. They shouldn't be taking injuries. Look at the injuries Joe Burrow has tooken, Look at the injuries Marcus has tooken, Ryan Tannehill, Will Levis, Will Levis. But we and then they get they all played great, and then they start getting beat up, beat up, and.

01:05:49
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, we gotta get rid of them. They suck.

01:05:52
Speaker 5: No, they good, they real good. It's just things around him. It is not playing to the same level. But I love Marcus Man. Yeah, I love Marcus. He was a dog. Ryan Tannehill was a dog. I mean, Jesus Christ. I played with some good quarterbacks on the time. They may not get that represent the recognition that they deserve, but do some.

01:06:18
Speaker 2: Running back.

01:06:20
Speaker 7: Yeah so, and the grand scheme of it all between forty nine Ers and Titans. Can you pinpoint a singular game that you're like, this was my favorite NFL game ever?

01:06:31
Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely can. It was the forty nine Ers versus the Lions. We were four and one, the Lions with five and oh. They had Mega Tronk and Matt Stafford. They had they had some dogs over there. I mean dogs vanderbrush on. Oh my, he used to wear the red contact lands. That shit used to creep me out all the time.

01:06:55
Speaker 2: Yah, who was there? I wound blocked them like four times. It was home in four field.

01:07:01
Speaker 5: Home. It was a in four field. We five and one, they five and up. I mean they were four to one, they was five and oh. And it came down to the far I have ran a slant, they scored a winning touchdown. And that game I still talk about that because that game I was playing phenomenal. I mean I probably had like five special teams tackles. I wham sue like five times, and we broke for big runs and then it came all down to me to score the touchdown. And and they never really threw me the ball For them to trust me on that play, Yeah, it changed everything.

01:07:37
Speaker 2: It changed every day we went on the.

01:07:39
Speaker 5: Super Bowl run and I got you know, like I said, I was a free agent and got paid and that all that that right there opened the door for me because they trusted me. They start putting me on more plays, more things. But then Jim Harball did what he did at the end of the game, and that was like, that's my dog, yeah, and.

01:08:02
Speaker 4: He chased him down.

01:08:03
Speaker 2: Then he chased him down.

01:08:03
Speaker 5: We always about to rumble all the way into the locker room, the whole team, we all like squaring up. Holy's come like that. And and I won that game, you know what I'm saying. So it's like I always anytime people talk him like, I mean, I done have some hell of games with the Titans, but that was probably the biggest.

01:08:22
Speaker 2: It took that next step, yeah.

01:08:23
Speaker 5: For me, you know what I mean, And for them to trust me because like like I said, we had Vernon Davis, Crabtree, Randy Mausss, Mario Manahan, Frank Gore.

01:08:31
Speaker 2: I mean, they ain't one of those dudes they could have the ball.

01:08:33
Speaker 13: To you again, your relationship with Jim Harball when he became the coach the forty nine ers, you were already there, correct, Yes, that first time y'all saw each other after him being your coach at that d One Bowl, or is it just like, holy shit, look where we are now?

01:08:49
Speaker 5: He was like, I'm he was like when I saw you was on the roster. I was like, we know, we got a player, that's all. He said, Like, we know we got a player. He's like, I'll put this mother everywhere, and he did. That's how I became the Swiss Army Knife because he sold these. He seems like we got a plan for you.

01:09:07
Speaker 2: I said, oh yeah, I'm about to play more.

01:09:12
Speaker 11: What was it like when he like, because y'all obviously weren't winning, so you had to make a coaching change, like when he came in, Like how instant did like the mood in the locker room shift, like just in the organization because I mean, y'all won like instantly when he got there.

01:09:25
Speaker 5: Well, so when Jim Harbo got there and the way he made us work, people was mad because he came on right after that lockout year. So we come back in and we going to work. Cats was, yeah, we gotta get this dude. I don't know about this dude. I don't know about this dude. Like Cats, that was the the ring around the locker So it got back to him somehow.

01:09:46
Speaker 2: I don't know.

01:09:46
Speaker 5: You know, you always got a snitch in the locker room. That's just part of the game. That's anywhere you go. It gets back to him. He goes, we bring up practice. I mean, we just busted our ass at practice to this was a long, crazy practice. And he goes, we have snakes on this team. Were like, what the hell he just bringing up? Like we got snakes on this team. He's like, you know how you get rid of snakes? Cut the grass, Burn the grass. Damn, he said, burn the grass.

01:10:21
Speaker 2: They said. He said about in a few weeks. That person that made that's next to you right now, he may not be next to you next week.

01:10:28
Speaker 4: And you'll know who.

01:10:30
Speaker 5: And we're like, oh shit. Every week, cut cut, bring somebody in. Cut, bring somebody in, cut, bring somebody. He like, you see all the people that got cut, they wasn't right for this team. But everybody who came here that we brought in, they gonna put work on for this team. They may be starting. I don't give how much money you make, who you are, where you get drafted at the best player gonna play. I'm sitting there like, God, damn, thank god, God.

01:11:03
Speaker 2: It's my turn.

01:11:05
Speaker 4: There's nothing better than a good leader.

01:11:07
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like thank God, because I'm busting my ass and I'm not saying the field he comes in, It's like I don't care who it is, and I remember he was like you, but he made me work a lot. I had to learn everything the quarterbacks learned because I was the audible shift guy, move guy. And I loved it though, because he gave me a lot of responsibility. But a lot of dudes will tell you they hate Jim Harball because he make us work, you know what I'm saying. Like one time, remember back in the day, NFL was big on when we had real tour days. They were big on like taking players on like field trips, like you go to a water park, movies, theater or something like that. So one day we're thinking we're about to get a bone because he's like, man, y'all have a good practice. I'm gonna give y'all bone. I'm gonna get y'all good bone. Y'all gonna love this bone. Were like, ugh, a lot of bony going to bony going on, so like, well, like okay, and then uh, hell of a practice he calls us up, man, that was one of the great practice. All, y'all gonna love this bone tomorrow. So we like all excited, like where we going? Everybody like where are we going, man, I think he gonna take us. He probably gonna take us to some war reenacting and shit, you know what I'm saying because that's where it came from. Yeah, I know that's what he big on too. So we get there and uh we we had the dress of the day. He used to put it on the board, like the dress of the day. We're like, oh, shit, full pads. We're the bone at. We like we thought it was gonna be like, no practice. It's say full pads. So everybody talking.

01:12:33
Speaker 2: Like full fucking pads. Where the bone at.

01:12:36
Speaker 5: They're like, oh, we're probably gonna practice like thirty forty minutes. I'm like, oh yeah, that's cool. That's even cool. We get outside, he's like, hey, bring it up because usually we stretch. So Jim Harball, let you stretch on your own for fifteen minutes. And then he blowed the whistle and we start practice. So he we ain't straight. He just blow us up.

01:12:54
Speaker 2: We're like, oh, yeah, he tricked us cause he liked that, Like.

01:12:56
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, y'all go change No he go, uh he go, you wanted I want to tell y'all something? We go, yeah, he go seattle right now at the water park. They go Arizona right now.

01:13:09
Speaker 2: They did. They had like a softball baseball game.

01:13:12
Speaker 4: And he still be there.

01:13:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, he going through all the all our teams in our comf in our division.

01:13:18
Speaker 2: We go, but you know what the forty nine ers are gonna do. We're like, what coach? We all excited when we coach coach, Yeah, what we're gonna go for? Yeah, he like, we're gonna get these seventy plays. Let's go.

01:13:35
Speaker 8: Morale just killed. I don't work anymore.

01:13:39
Speaker 5: Coach like that crazy. That may have been the worst practice we ever, the worst.

01:13:50
Speaker 2: Yeah.

01:13:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, did he ever take anywhere ever?

01:13:53
Speaker 5: Yeah he did. He took us. He took us somewhere. So after that, I think I want to say two practices. After that, he took us to the movies. We watched.

01:14:04
Speaker 2: What was it? It was an army movie.

01:14:06
Speaker 4: At that time, maybe like Saving Private Ryan. It could be.

01:14:09
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, fury, No, was it thirty nights, thirty days? What was it?

01:14:14
Speaker 14: Thirty zero dark thirty? Yeah, we see zero dark thirty. Because he was really big into the military. We even had the president general like military dude come and speak to us.

01:14:28
Speaker 2: Yo, like he was big on that, so like.

01:14:30
Speaker 5: We went and watched the Army movie and then that that message was like, you see how they never gave up when they backs was against the wall, they kept fighting because.

01:14:41
Speaker 12: We got seventy more plays. After the movie, pet your pads on, He's like, you see how they never gave up. He's like, We're gonna beat those guys because I know we're gonna be down in the first quarter, We're gonna be down in the second quarter, but who the hell we're gonna be in the third quarter, and how will we finish the fourth quarter? I'm like, god da, I'm talking about like yeah, and if you watch all our games, we we losing in the first half, and then the second half we come back.

01:15:08
Speaker 5: We was the comeback kids. Everybody knew that we come back and just beat their ass. We just out physical youth. And he knew that. I guess he felt it. So he wanted us to see, like when they was down and they look and they thought you all thought they was gonna die because it was just too many afees coming after room every angle, you know what I'm saying. But they locked and loaded. They got they they they they they got their game plan and they just look, we're gonna die doing it. We either gonna die killing them. Are we gonna walk away from this? You know what I'm saying.

01:15:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, we died.

01:15:40
Speaker 5: We died, and that's really what they did. They went out there. It's like, look, let's get it. So we all had that mard set and we was all on the pill program you know, talk about that later. Uh, so we were dogs.

01:15:56
Speaker 1: I think we're getting Yeah, our batteries Runner loaded our audience, so we got it.

01:16:01
Speaker 7: How long have been going?

01:16:02
Speaker 4: Our ten? Question our sixteen?

01:16:05
Speaker 8: It feels like you've been going for a minute.

01:16:07
Speaker 7: Yeah, bro, this has been We really appreciate you coming on one. And even though we've heard a lot of these stories over and over, I feel like I heard a new piece and every one of those stories where I was like, damn, there's so much more to every like story that for just for anyone's sake, but man, it means a lot.

01:16:23
Speaker 8: Like you are a guy.

01:16:24
Speaker 7: You've all showed so much love to us. So it's sick that you are the number twentieth episode guest. And uh, I'm.

01:16:31
Speaker 2: Sure, I'm sure we'll have you back on.

01:16:32
Speaker 3: We've only ever had for pro athlete guests We've only ever had Titan Era tight ends.

01:16:37
Speaker 4: Tight ends from the Niners.

01:16:39
Speaker 2: True, true, No, you had Grounk, didn't you. Yeah, Georgia, we had George and you. I thought that had I saw George. I thought you had Gronk for sure, though happened. We'll get Vern too. Oh yeah, yeah, no, Vern, definitely Vern.

01:16:57
Speaker 5: Verne would love to come on here because he wanted to get inside of the story.

01:17:01
Speaker 2: Like, I gotta get my side of the story. I'm like, all right, for.

01:17:07
Speaker 4: Good deal.

01:17:08
Speaker 7: Damn, you're trying to sign us off, Coop, I gotta.

01:17:11
Speaker 3: Do this off.

01:17:12
Speaker 2: I brought us in.

01:17:14
Speaker 11: Jeffy signed us off.

01:17:15
Speaker 4: I did that last week, Garrett, sign us off.

01:17:19
Speaker 10: Thank you all for listening to another episode of Inside the Bus, episode twenty with our guy Delaney Walker. Go show some love, hit the comments, tell us who you want us to have next. You know, we appreciate you guys tuning in. Help us blow this thing up until next time, he pace