Sophia Locke & Derek Kage: "Farm-to-Table" But Make it 🌽

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<v Speaker 2>guests today are two best friends. She's an industry boomerang
<v Speaker 2>who came back strong as a kink loving milf, and
<v Speaker 2>he is America's stepdad, who won Best Actor and Best
<v Speaker 2>Newcomer at the Gabe Ends, was x BIZ two time
<v Speaker 2>Gay Performer of the Year and also x BIZ FSC
<v Speaker 2>Advocacy Award. Welcome Sophia Locke and Derek Cage.
<v Speaker 3>Hello, Thank you for having us.
<v Speaker 2>We were just saying Derek was going to bring all
<v Speaker 2>of his awards with him, but they didn't fit in
<v Speaker 2>his car, so you're just going to have to, you know,
<v Speaker 2>imagine them on the shelf next to him. They're they're
<v Speaker 2>in our hearts, all of the awards. And then Sophia,
<v Speaker 2>you're here to keep him humble, right, And I've won nothing,
<v Speaker 2>so I am here just to make sure.
<v Speaker 3>That we all know about his You've won my affection.
<v Speaker 2>You've won so many hearts, the hearts of many penises,
<v Speaker 2>the hearts of mine. If it makes you feel any better,
<v Speaker 2>I've been in the industry for twenty six years and
<v Speaker 2>I've won very few awards. I got my first ABN
<v Speaker 2>last year. Hall of Fame, Wow, and that was only
<v Speaker 2>because I literally like nagged them for so long and
<v Speaker 2>I like bitched about it on this podcast for you though,
<v Speaker 2>and then I and then I like finally went to
<v Speaker 2>Todd Hunter and I was like, Todd, can you please
<v Speaker 2>go come on them for only one here? He's just
<v Speaker 2>the Hall of Fame is huge. And then finally they
<v Speaker 2>were like, oh my god, shut that bitch up. Here
<v Speaker 2>you go. Yeah, no, it's not everything.
<v Speaker 4>I'm not worried about it. I like the day to day.
<v Speaker 4>I love what I do, so yeah, I mean it's
<v Speaker 4>nice to get nominated for things, which I've at least
<v Speaker 4>had that, but I don't really. Yeah, it's fine if
<v Speaker 4>I don't want anything. I'm just happy to have sex
<v Speaker 4>on camera.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you know we always say, like, that's
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily what pays your bills, right right, Yeah, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's important. Is like loving your job and getting the
<v Speaker 2>bookings and like being excited to go to work every day.
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, yeah, I definitely have that.
<v Speaker 2>So let's start from the beginning. Where did you two
<v Speaker 2>meet and how quickly did you guys become besties?
<v Speaker 3>You want to take this one?
<v Speaker 4>Sure, Well, we actually met online on Twitter because we
<v Speaker 4>have a mutual friend who recommended him to me, and
<v Speaker 4>so we met just saying we would maybe do a
<v Speaker 4>collab together, and I thought he was sexy. I didn't
<v Speaker 4>look up any of his work, so I had no
<v Speaker 4>idea how prolific of a gay performer he was. I
<v Speaker 4>just went, this man is hot, he's got a great voice.
<v Speaker 4>And then we both got really busy and met actually
<v Speaker 4>in person just by chance at the AVN Expo in
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty three, and I saw him in person and went, yeap,
<v Speaker 4>he's pretty hot. So yeah, we scheduled a collab, and
<v Speaker 4>then right before our very first collab, he told me
<v Speaker 4>I was his very first female collab, which I had
<v Speaker 4>no idea.
<v Speaker 2>I was going to ask if the collab was just
<v Speaker 2>the two of you or with another guy, because you're
<v Speaker 2>like pretty gay, right.
<v Speaker 3>Very very gay, which I was surprised because you know,
<v Speaker 3>if you look at my Twitter, especially at that point,
<v Speaker 3>it was gay gay gay gay gay gay. Yeah, I was.
<v Speaker 3>I was very curious, and I was very open to
<v Speaker 3>the idea of working with women, you know, cisgender women,
<v Speaker 3>because I'd worked with transgender men and transgender women, but
<v Speaker 3>never a cis gender woman. And I was like, I'm curious,
<v Speaker 3>I would like to try this, and she was very
<v Speaker 3>you know, she was into it.
<v Speaker 4>Just yeah, and we had such a wonderful collab and
<v Speaker 4>it was great chemistry. It went really well. There was
<v Speaker 4>a moment during it, he knows, there was a moment
<v Speaker 4>during it where he was going to town I orgasm
<v Speaker 4>really easily through penetration, which I know, I'm lucky, where
<v Speaker 4>I was going to come and so I told him
<v Speaker 4>I was going to come just you know, for funzies
<v Speaker 4>and he and he went, oh, and he stopped, and
<v Speaker 4>I I thought that he was messing with me and
<v Speaker 4>just trying to you know, just trying to edge me base,
<v Speaker 4>to tease me. And he played it off like, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>that's what I was doing. And I found out later
<v Speaker 4>that in Gabe Horn, if you come as the top
<v Speaker 4>or the bottom, the scene is done. And so he
<v Speaker 4>had never worked with women and didn't know we could
<v Speaker 4>just keep going. And I was like, you, bastard, keep
<v Speaker 4>fucking me. I'm gonna come. I'll do it four more times,
<v Speaker 4>you know. So that was one of the very yeah,
<v Speaker 4>early things where we learned that things are a little
<v Speaker 4>different for ladies.
<v Speaker 2>Bless his heart, right, Oh my god, that's so funny.
<v Speaker 2>That is great.
<v Speaker 4>But then I think soon after that was he was
<v Speaker 4>going to Barcelona and I said I had never been
<v Speaker 4>to Barcelona, and he, on a whim kind of said,
<v Speaker 4>why don't you just come? And I said okay. And
<v Speaker 4>then after that trip we were just we got along
<v Speaker 4>so well that we just decided to be the porn
<v Speaker 4>Will and Grace I guess.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, so when I met you guys, I met
<v Speaker 2>you guys at the ex Biz Executive Awards, right, and
<v Speaker 2>I totally thought you guys were a couple, which you say,
<v Speaker 2>you get a lot we do.
<v Speaker 4>We have a whole lore. Do you want to talk
<v Speaker 4>about that?
<v Speaker 3>Oh? My god? Which part that what people think we
<v Speaker 3>have a love child, That we are married.
<v Speaker 4>We're hiding all of it. That he's secretly not gay.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that I'm secret like I'm mostly straight has been
<v Speaker 3>one of the big ones. I really think it's because
<v Speaker 3>we became such fast friends. It was in less than
<v Speaker 3>a year that we just thickest thieves, travel so well together.
<v Speaker 3>We spend time well to with each other, and we
<v Speaker 3>don't like if we're staying in a place, especially if
<v Speaker 3>we're traveling, we don't get in each other's way, Like
<v Speaker 3>in any What was it when you were in London
<v Speaker 3>and you got that digital playground feature? Yeah, and we
<v Speaker 3>were supposed to have a whole travel thing for the rest.
<v Speaker 4>To Scotland and Ireland together.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But she was like, I got this feature with
<v Speaker 3>digital Playground, and I think some friends might have been like, uh,
<v Speaker 3>how could you do this to me? And I was like,
<v Speaker 3>you better hop your ass on that plane now, go
<v Speaker 3>let me go. Because we're so supportive of each other,
<v Speaker 3>and so I think it's because we have such a
<v Speaker 3>wonderful friendship and that we play so well together, we
<v Speaker 3>do things so well that we're professionally and aligned a
<v Speaker 3>line that people think that we're together, right, But it's like, no,
<v Speaker 3>we are just the most genuine and best of friends.
<v Speaker 4>Like it's a platonic love, but it's love absolutely, you
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean. Like it's just I supportive and
<v Speaker 4>I think being in the same industry and understanding how
<v Speaker 4>it works means that you can do things like I mean,
<v Speaker 4>you left Prague early once and I went go home,
<v Speaker 4>Like we just understand each other, and I think it's
<v Speaker 4>really nice. Also, bonus, we check out all of the
<v Speaker 4>foreign men together, all of us. We know each other's types.
<v Speaker 4>We look out for each other for that, it's great.
<v Speaker 2>What are your types, Sophia, what's your type?
<v Speaker 4>Okay? For like really fit men, Like I'm really into
<v Speaker 4>I'm a gym bro. I will like talk about someone's
<v Speaker 4>delts in the middle of a scene. It's kind of obnoxious,
<v Speaker 4>but I and I also I'm really into like witty, funny,
<v Speaker 4>quick men that are like smart, confident, successful. I don't
<v Speaker 4>really care about money. I've never really been one to
<v Speaker 4>prioritize money. But if someone is successful and motivated, I'm
<v Speaker 4>attracted to that too, So that makes sense. Yeah, strong arms.
<v Speaker 2>And then Derek, what about you?
<v Speaker 3>Oh, this is gonna sound so terrible. Basically a dick
<v Speaker 3>and a pulse. I'm on board. But to clarify that,
<v Speaker 3>I tend to gravitate more towards just like generally fit,
<v Speaker 3>you know, good hygiene, and Latino. I have a thing
<v Speaker 3>for Latino men, for better or worse. It had because
<v Speaker 3>my my ex husband and my ex fiance both different men.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah botho.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I used to really swing that way too,
<v Speaker 2>and it never fails if I ended up marrying like
<v Speaker 2>the whitest man possible.
<v Speaker 3>That Yeah, and it never fails if someone you know
<v Speaker 3>might possibly be Latino, like I will just my eyes
<v Speaker 3>gravitate immediately. Yeah, it's I don't know what, but generally
<v Speaker 3>just like more well, no, because if there's a guy
<v Speaker 3>that I think is more bottom, because like there's different,
<v Speaker 3>you know, levels of what a guy could be on
<v Speaker 3>the gay side, right, Like if they're generally more petite,
<v Speaker 3>smaller like you, some people tend to view them as
<v Speaker 3>a bottom, like a more receptive person whereas if a
<v Speaker 3>guy's more muscular, like, you know, taller, more confident, people
<v Speaker 3>tend to think of them as the top or like
<v Speaker 3>the giver. It's all, you know, you never really know,
<v Speaker 3>like it could be anything, like someone who looks like
<v Speaker 3>me could be a complete and total bottom, and so
<v Speaker 3>it's you never really know. But in general, I kind
<v Speaker 3>of say, if you have a dick in a pulse
<v Speaker 3>one are you I'm open to it?
<v Speaker 2>Top or bottom or either or.
<v Speaker 3>Whatever the occasion calls for, is what I like to say. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>top bottom. I was luckily I was blessed in both departments,
<v Speaker 3>you know, ass as well as dick.
<v Speaker 4>So I'm this was a term I had never heard before.
<v Speaker 4>On the straight side, which is verse verse right, that
<v Speaker 4>you do both?
<v Speaker 3>I didn't.
<v Speaker 4>I'm learning a lot.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's for versatile yes.
<v Speaker 2>Ah, okay, I got it. Do you have a preference one.
<v Speaker 3>Way or the other or it's a mood in chemistry?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it depends on like the guy. Yeah, yeah that
<v Speaker 2>makes sense.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it really all depends.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely so. Derek, you reclaimed your life once when
<v Speaker 2>you finally pursued your dream career. Can you talk about
<v Speaker 2>what your life was like? Before porn.
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, it was in general, it was it was fine.
<v Speaker 3>There was just nothing exciting about it. There was nothing
<v Speaker 3>I looked forward to, you know, going to work every day.
<v Speaker 3>It was a nine to five sit at a computer job.
<v Speaker 3>I hated it. I felt like my I really felt
<v Speaker 3>like my soul was dying every day I would go
<v Speaker 3>to work. And not only that, but some of the
<v Speaker 3>people I worked with were just sometimes very cruel and
<v Speaker 3>sometimes just you know, they weren't helpful. They they as
<v Speaker 3>well were just not excited to be there. It was
<v Speaker 3>just a nine to five that they're like, all right,
<v Speaker 3>you know, we're here. And also my relationships, you know,
<v Speaker 3>my romantic relationships, none of them worked well. Like I
<v Speaker 3>was too much of a slut and I was too
<v Speaker 3>much of just like exploring and wanting to do other
<v Speaker 3>things and wanting to try new things, and that never
<v Speaker 3>really worked for my partners.
<v Speaker 2>You're having a hard time being monogamous.
<v Speaker 3>That's that's a good way to put it. If big,
<v Speaker 3>if if I were to get into another relationship, I
<v Speaker 3>could not be monogamous. And I've said this, We've talked
<v Speaker 3>about this before, that there's no one single person that
<v Speaker 3>could satisfy all of my sexual desires and if someone
<v Speaker 3>thinks that they could, I invite them to try. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>and so yeah, my relationships were terrible. My family was
<v Speaker 3>just not, you know, great. So all of the people
<v Speaker 3>that were in my life and all my environment was
<v Speaker 3>just never good. It was never it never fully supported
<v Speaker 3>who I wanted to be as a person. So once
<v Speaker 3>I got into porn, I found my people and I
<v Speaker 3>found something I'm excited about and love what I do.
<v Speaker 2>So when did the conversation about doing porn first come
<v Speaker 2>up with your ex husband? Because were you married at
<v Speaker 2>the time when you got into porn considering it?
<v Speaker 3>So when we were married when I was considering it, okay,
<v Speaker 3>but he was not supportive at all, Right, he was
<v Speaker 3>not supportive. Even though this is the kicker. I had
<v Speaker 3>my only fans because I wanted to try it. I
<v Speaker 3>started it in March of twenty twenty days before the
<v Speaker 3>pandemic lockdown. It's like I have wonderful timing in my life.
<v Speaker 3>But it was we both had our only fans. He
<v Speaker 3>had one as well, he was paying for grad school.
<v Speaker 3>Uh huh uh, and I had mine. And I was like,
<v Speaker 3>you know, my work life was terrible. I wanted to
<v Speaker 3>find a way out. I wanted to find something different
<v Speaker 3>and you know, something better. And I told him, I'm like,
<v Speaker 3>I think I think I'd be really good at porn.
<v Speaker 3>I really do. And he just was like, I could
<v Speaker 3>never be with someone that's imporannt. I could never be
<v Speaker 3>with like a porn star. And so that when I
<v Speaker 3>finally asked one time if you'd be okay with me
<v Speaker 3>go into like a little convention for porn, he was like,
<v Speaker 3>this isn't going to work anymore.
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow?
<v Speaker 3>And that was it?
<v Speaker 2>That was it?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Wow?
<v Speaker 2>What was it was a little conventional vien No.
<v Speaker 3>It's a thing called hustler Ball. Have you ever heard
<v Speaker 3>of it? Mostly on the gay side, that makes sense.
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of just like a party slash, you know,
<v Speaker 3>they have dancers, they have a live show as well,
<v Speaker 3>and so I wanted to go to that.
<v Speaker 2>And did you go?
<v Speaker 3>I did?
<v Speaker 2>And how was it?
<v Speaker 3>It was fantastic. It was fantastic, And I wound up
<v Speaker 3>meeting people that cast me in scenes.
<v Speaker 2>Okay eventually, So so that was kind of like your
<v Speaker 2>intro to porn.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, over you know, doing only fans, collaborations and such.
<v Speaker 3>I had met other people, but that was one where
<v Speaker 3>I kind of met directors, I met users, and so yeah,
<v Speaker 3>you could say.
<v Speaker 2>That, Yeah, what was your first professional scene?
<v Speaker 3>It was for a company called Trailer Trash Boys. Start
<v Speaker 3>at the top, like started at the bottom. How we're here?
<v Speaker 3>You know? Yeah, it was for it was for a scene, uh,
<v Speaker 3>for Trailer Trash Boys. And I'm from Alabama. Yeah, and
<v Speaker 3>so yeah it was I was I was born for
<v Speaker 3>this and my scene partner was from Alabama as well. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>and so we like we brought out our Southern accents
<v Speaker 3>and we really played it up like we we did
<v Speaker 3>the full thing, and it was it was fantastic. Wow. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>but you had a good time, fantastic.
<v Speaker 2>Time, and you felt like after that, you're like, okay,
<v Speaker 2>this is this is going to work for me?
<v Speaker 3>Yes? Yes?
<v Speaker 2>And then how did your family find out about your
<v Speaker 2>new career and what was their reaction?
<v Speaker 3>I told them, I told them that, you know, they
<v Speaker 3>knew about like my only fans, they knew things that
<v Speaker 3>I was doing. They were they were hesitant about it,
<v Speaker 3>but like you know, it was making me a little
<v Speaker 3>extra money and it wasn't really you know, I didn't
<v Speaker 3>think it was going to become my life path at
<v Speaker 3>the time. But then once I got into porn, like
<v Speaker 3>full studio porn, they were not really supportive. They were like,
<v Speaker 3>why don't you try and just you know, find another
<v Speaker 3>spot where you already are. Why don't you try and
<v Speaker 3>get into a different office something like that, even though
<v Speaker 3>the job that I had was quite literally bringing me
<v Speaker 3>to the point I wanted to die, not to get
<v Speaker 3>on a serious note or anything.
<v Speaker 2>But no, weal like serious.
<v Speaker 3>I in a like late April early May of twenty
<v Speaker 3>twenty two, just before my first scene, attempted suicide, and
<v Speaker 3>it was because you know, my husband had left me.
<v Speaker 3>My life at work was awful, my family life was terrible,
<v Speaker 3>and I was I was battling alcoholism as well, and
<v Speaker 3>I just hit a point where I was like, I'm done.
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to do this anymore. Yeah, and luckily
<v Speaker 3>failed at that. So but after that, you know, for
<v Speaker 3>them to say, oh, you should stay where you are,
<v Speaker 3>you should keep doing what you're doing, is kind of
<v Speaker 3>like a you don't really have my best interests at hardwell, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>like you just wants what you think is good for
<v Speaker 3>you for me.
<v Speaker 2>Right, And so when you came out of that, like
<v Speaker 2>what was your first thought were you glad that it
<v Speaker 2>didn't work?
<v Speaker 3>I don't really remember how I felt I was. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>obviously I was crying. I was like feeling, you know,
<v Speaker 3>like what did I just do? What just happened? But
<v Speaker 3>I called the National Suicide Hotline. It's a it's actually
<v Speaker 3>nine to eight eight is the three digit number you
<v Speaker 3>can call for anyone that might be struggling. But they
<v Speaker 3>helped me to kind of be like, what is in
<v Speaker 3>yourronment right now that's causing this? And so they actually
<v Speaker 3>I started thinking what is in my environment that's causing this?
<v Speaker 3>It's like, oh, family, job, you know where I am
<v Speaker 3>right now in life, don't I don't like this, I
<v Speaker 3>don't want this. I need to change it. And so
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of how I came out of it.
<v Speaker 2>And so then what were the next steps that you
<v Speaker 2>took to like change your life?
<v Speaker 3>Started doing studio porn, Yeah, that was it. I stopped drinking.
<v Speaker 2>That was big, big, big part.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was big. And I started this. This was
<v Speaker 3>one of the things I did for, you know, to
<v Speaker 3>keep my mental health high or like keep it up.
<v Speaker 3>Was a celebrating small victories. So like when my depression
<v Speaker 3>manifests itself in I sleep like fifteen hours a day.
<v Speaker 3>I've become exhausted at just the smallest thing. So getting
<v Speaker 3>up and getting out of bed and brushing my teeth
<v Speaker 3>is actually, like when I'm depressed, is a monumental task,
<v Speaker 3>and so I would celebrate be like I got up
<v Speaker 3>out of bed, I brush my teeth. Fuck, yes, do something?
<v Speaker 3>What's next? What's like, what can I do to make
<v Speaker 3>my day better? And so that was how I kept
<v Speaker 3>myself mentally in a good place, and like coming out
<v Speaker 3>of that depression was celebrating small victories.
<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm sure that you're no stranger to the idea
<v Speaker 2>that so many people believe that porn is something that's
<v Speaker 2>going to lead people to suicide, right, It's going to
<v Speaker 2>lead people to depression, to mental health issues. Obviously your
<v Speaker 2>story is like the reverse of that.
<v Speaker 3>Exactly right.
<v Speaker 2>So so how do you challenge people who have that
<v Speaker 2>built in preconceived idea that like porn causes mental health
<v Speaker 2>issues and is you know, leads to suicide and depression
<v Speaker 2>like automatically in all people.
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, first of all, just take a look
<v Speaker 3>at me and Sophia sitting here right now. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>like our lives before porn you know, like mine, I
<v Speaker 3>definitely struggled. I know we've talked about your relationship, like
<v Speaker 3>in your the time between first when you started porn
<v Speaker 3>and now like we found what we love, We found
<v Speaker 3>what we love to do, Like we are happy to
<v Speaker 3>be on set when we've been on sets together, poor
<v Speaker 3>directors or anybody, because we're like, hey, everybody, let's go. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>And I would just honestly say, like, you know, there
<v Speaker 3>might have been a time when porn was a wild
<v Speaker 3>wild West of a profession when you know, like respective
<v Speaker 3>women might not have been top tier boundaries, you know,
<v Speaker 3>respecting boundaries that might not have been you know, the
<v Speaker 3>what was expected. But now, especially in my experience, you know,
<v Speaker 3>it might be different as a male. But like I
<v Speaker 3>honestly feel I've never been on a set before where
<v Speaker 3>I've been like, oh, this is dangerous, Like this is
<v Speaker 3>not something I would ever want to be a part of.
<v Speaker 3>Everyone is very respectful, everyone's very supportive. My nine to
<v Speaker 3>five job that I had, no one was respectful. Like
<v Speaker 3>everyone just expected you to do your job and then
<v Speaker 3>just not care about your mental health, not care about
<v Speaker 3>how you were doing, none of that. And so within porn,
<v Speaker 3>you know, we have Pineapple support if you're you know,
<v Speaker 3>for mental health struggles for the performers. I mean like
<v Speaker 3>there's things set up and you know, especially at exbis,
<v Speaker 3>like it is thrown in your face, but like we've
<v Speaker 3>got Pineapple Support, We've got all of these resources for you.
<v Speaker 3>Like how like if you're struggling, you're struggling with addiction,
<v Speaker 3>you know, that's for me. I would say porn is
<v Speaker 3>a place where everybody kind of understands each other and
<v Speaker 3>what we're doing, and that I think everybody's probably had
<v Speaker 3>something in their life where they're like, I get it,
<v Speaker 3>I get what you're going through, and here's resources here,
<v Speaker 3>something to help you. So that's all I could tell
<v Speaker 3>to people that might have preconceived notions or judgments about
<v Speaker 3>it is it's not that way anymore. Yeah, it's really
<v Speaker 3>I've not had that experience, and I honestly feel it
<v Speaker 3>saved my life. I feel like porn saved my life.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Sophia, I definitely want to get into your story.
<v Speaker 2>But before we go there, just because we're on the topic,
<v Speaker 2>what do you feel that like porn has given you
<v Speaker 2>that has like enriched your life and made you happy
<v Speaker 2>and made you enjoy what you do.
<v Speaker 4>So what I like to pay attention to is how
<v Speaker 4>I feel after I do certain things. So I cammed
<v Speaker 4>for seven years and I've done studio work, and I've
<v Speaker 4>never left a set or logged off and felt shame
<v Speaker 4>or felt bad about myself. And so I think that
<v Speaker 4>this industry might not be for everyone, of course, you know,
<v Speaker 4>but if you can do this and you feel so
<v Speaker 4>good about yourself after and empowered, and you feel like
<v Speaker 4>you're in control of your career and your life and
<v Speaker 4>your day to day, it's basically linked me to my full,
<v Speaker 4>authentic self. It's exactly who I want to be every day.
<v Speaker 4>I don't have to filter myself on set or with friends,
<v Speaker 4>or I get to be my complete sexual self without
<v Speaker 4>feeling like that's judged or shamed. I'm the happiest I've
<v Speaker 4>ever been by far, So for me, it's just it's
<v Speaker 4>given me me.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love that. I mean, we often talk about,
<v Speaker 2>you know, what is some of the things about porn
<v Speaker 2>that makes it so great? And people ask me, like,
<v Speaker 2>you know, what is the thing about porn that you love?
<v Speaker 2>Like why would you want to work in porn versus
<v Speaker 2>like in fashion or in celebrity? And I would never
<v Speaker 2>ever want to work in fashion. I would never want
<v Speaker 2>to work in celebrity. And I always say it's the people.
<v Speaker 2>Porn stars are literally my favorite people on the planet.
<v Speaker 2>They are so authentic and they are so like true
<v Speaker 2>to who they are, I mean exactly like the things
<v Speaker 2>that you said. And I think that there's something about
<v Speaker 2>being in an industry where you're kind of so vulnerable
<v Speaker 2>and you're like naturally just like kind of not forced
<v Speaker 2>to be who you are. But there's something about like
<v Speaker 2>showing your buttthole on the Internet that just kind of
<v Speaker 2>like sheds all of those yeah, you know, all of
<v Speaker 2>those like walls that we put up, or all of
<v Speaker 2>those pretense that you know, people try to try to
<v Speaker 2>bring up, and yeah, just I don't know, there's something
<v Speaker 2>about porn stars that And also I think having the
<v Speaker 2>bravery to be exactly who they are and to exist
<v Speaker 2>in their own like sexually free space. I think a
<v Speaker 2>lot of people don't have the courage to do that
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<v Speaker 2>going to have by doing that. I think that takes
<v Speaker 2>a certain kind of person And I love and I
<v Speaker 2>love you guys for being those kind of people.
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely Yeah, I'll advocate for it forever. I mean, I've
<v Speaker 4>just had such an overwhelmingly positive experience personally.
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<v Speaker 2>you started poorn in twenty ten and then completely stepped
<v Speaker 2>away seven years later. That right, Yes, that's great. What
<v Speaker 2>were you doing during your time away? And why did
<v Speaker 2>you step away?
<v Speaker 4>So I retired in twenty sixteen, and I left because
<v Speaker 4>I was in a relationship and I felt like he
<v Speaker 4>wasn't comfortable with it, and so I just kept doing
<v Speaker 4>less and less until I felt like I had done
<v Speaker 4>it for seven years it was time to retire. I
<v Speaker 4>was probably getting too old for it, so I convinced
<v Speaker 4>myself to do that in the hopes.
<v Speaker 2>How old were you at the time when you thought
<v Speaker 2>you were too old for it?
<v Speaker 4>So I started at twenty five, so seven years later
<v Speaker 4>it was thirty two.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, definitely too old. You gotta get out, I
<v Speaker 2>mean yeah.
<v Speaker 4>So I loved what I did. I mostly did camming
<v Speaker 4>for the for most of that, but then the last
<v Speaker 4>year and a half between twenty fourteen and twenty sixteen,
<v Speaker 4>I had started doing professional work, mostly for kink dot Com,
<v Speaker 4>and that was just fantasy fulfillment. It was I would
<v Speaker 4>go to San Francisco in the Armory once a month
<v Speaker 4>and just do wild, wild shoots and then come back home.
<v Speaker 4>It was really fun.
<v Speaker 2>So for those of you who don't know, because when
<v Speaker 2>was I feel like I need to fill people in
<v Speaker 2>if they're new. The Armory was like this huge it's
<v Speaker 2>not even a studio.
<v Speaker 4>Building, like it was dungeony building.
<v Speaker 2>It was a dungeeny building. It was literally like used
<v Speaker 2>to be an art memory. I wasn't Armory, And so
<v Speaker 2>kink dot Com, which is like this huge BDSM fetish site,
<v Speaker 2>basically occupied this entire building and turned it into a
<v Speaker 2>massive fetish production studio. So that's what she means when
<v Speaker 2>she says the Armory.
<v Speaker 4>And then my partner and I broke up, and I
<v Speaker 4>was single for a little bit, and I moved to
<v Speaker 4>Seattle and then fell in love with someone knew who
<v Speaker 4>was not in the industry, who knew what I did
<v Speaker 4>and was supportive for a long time, you know, and
<v Speaker 4>he never asked me to leave. But I could just
<v Speaker 4>feel the discomfort of sharing me with everyone on the internet.
<v Speaker 4>So I stopped doing boy Girl, and then I stopped
<v Speaker 4>doing girl Girl, and then I stopped doing sexual things
<v Speaker 4>on camera, and I got really creative trying to do
<v Speaker 4>other things on camera that would make me money, like
<v Speaker 4>what like putting a bunch of disgusting foods in a
<v Speaker 4>blender all together and then being paid to take giant
<v Speaker 4>gulps of it, like Manni's and Onions and Captain Crunch,
<v Speaker 4>and it was fantastic in a disgusting way, but it
<v Speaker 4>was entertaining, right, So I hose spelled horrible, but I
<v Speaker 4>did that. So I was doing all these creative shows
<v Speaker 4>on camera, and then eventually decided it was time to retire.
<v Speaker 4>So I did real estate.
<v Speaker 2>Once you start making like smoothies out of Captain Crunch
<v Speaker 2>and onions, you know you're done.
<v Speaker 4>I feel like that was the sign. I think that
<v Speaker 4>was maybe the sign that I should be I should
<v Speaker 4>be done. But I but I felt burnt out. And
<v Speaker 4>I think it was because I didn't feel like I
<v Speaker 4>could fully express myself or be myself on camera because
<v Speaker 4>I was so worried about what my partner would think. Right,
<v Speaker 4>And so I retired. I did a full retirement, thought
<v Speaker 4>I would never be there again. I sold my Twitter,
<v Speaker 4>you know.
<v Speaker 2>I left sold it? Did I didn't even know.
<v Speaker 4>I guess, I mean, I don't think you're supposed to,
<v Speaker 4>but yeah, okay, which is great. And then I left
<v Speaker 4>the industry completely and did real estate in Seattle for
<v Speaker 4>five years. And then when my partner and I broke up,
<v Speaker 4>the one that I left the industry for there was
<v Speaker 4>only fans now, right, and a couple of my really
<v Speaker 4>close friends were still in the industry, and so I
<v Speaker 4>missed it so much at that point that I figured
<v Speaker 4>I'd just dip my toe back in and maybe doing
<v Speaker 4>only fans and see if anyone remembered me from way
<v Speaker 4>back when. And it was incredible. They said you're a
<v Speaker 4>milf now, which was news to me, and I was
<v Speaker 4>not too old, it turns out, and as you know,
<v Speaker 4>like this is how it works, and yeah, I was
<v Speaker 4>welcome back with open arms, and people remembered me from
<v Speaker 4>my very weird shows and I would play Godzilla and
<v Speaker 4>use a hitachi. It was all wild, and now studios
<v Speaker 4>were interested in booking me as the step mom or
<v Speaker 4>as the you know, hot older woman next door. And
<v Speaker 4>so it's been about three and a half years now
<v Speaker 4>and I've just been so happy to be back.
<v Speaker 2>Were you surprised when you came back? So this whole
<v Speaker 2>step mom genre like didn't really exist when you'd left before.
<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure if it had, but I had only
<v Speaker 4>really been working for and then I got a couple
<v Speaker 4>of shoots with Brassers and Bangros and was starting to
<v Speaker 4>build momentum, but those were all just kind of normal
<v Speaker 4>hot girl gets fucked yeah things, So I'm not sure.
<v Speaker 4>It does seem like it's blown up, which I'm grateful
<v Speaker 4>for because it's a lot of the work I do.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the stepmom, step son, step father.
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah. Genre is just is It's so creepy, and
<v Speaker 4>it's fun to be creepy sometimes.
<v Speaker 2>I like it. What did you miss the most about
<v Speaker 2>Born when you were gone? I missed the community. I
<v Speaker 2>missed the women.
<v Speaker 4>I knew so many camgirls and other I feel like,
<v Speaker 4>in kind of vanilla civilian life, a lot of women
<v Speaker 4>are really ashamed of their sexuality or afraid to show it,
<v Speaker 4>or insecure about their bodies. And I missed this group
<v Speaker 4>of women who were so free and full of life
<v Speaker 4>and excited about sex. So I missed that. I also
<v Speaker 4>getting into real estate. It was actually kind of a
<v Speaker 4>religious group, which was surprising to me and Seattle a
<v Speaker 4>lot of people were very religious, and so I felt
<v Speaker 4>I got really quiet because I didn't know what was
<v Speaker 4>appropriate to say. After seven years of talking about dick,
<v Speaker 4>you don't know what to say in a real estate office,
<v Speaker 4>And so I think other people thought I was religious too,
<v Speaker 4>because I was so quiet, Yeah, full because I don't
<v Speaker 4>want to make anyone uncomfortable. Yeah yeah, but I miss
<v Speaker 4>being myself.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, speaking of this is a total tangent, but I'm
<v Speaker 2>always like curious about this, And just because you brought
<v Speaker 2>it up, what are your views on religion? Do you
<v Speaker 2>have like a spiritual side at all to you?
<v Speaker 4>Actually not really. I was raised Catholic, and so whenever
<v Speaker 4>I get shoots that are based around that, I have
<v Speaker 4>dialogue ready to go in Bible, things ready to say
<v Speaker 4>that are horrifically inappropriate. My grandmother would be rolling in
<v Speaker 4>her grave. But I was raised Catholic, which I liked
<v Speaker 4>the community of but I never really bought into it.
<v Speaker 4>It never really made sense to me. I would say,
<v Speaker 4>I'm probably agnostic, like there might be something, but I
<v Speaker 4>don't know, right, I've never seen enough evidence of anything,
<v Speaker 4>or felt enough of an anything to really subscribe to
<v Speaker 4>any certain religion or belief system around that. And I
<v Speaker 4>just have always just because of the way I was raised,
<v Speaker 4>just being nice to people and wanting the best for people.
<v Speaker 4>I don't feel like I need the threat of hell
<v Speaker 4>to not murder, so for me personally, it's just not
<v Speaker 4>something that brings me peace. I guess I don't find
<v Speaker 4>it interesting.
<v Speaker 2>Do you believe in any kind of like I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>cosmic law of the universe, or like law of attraction
<v Speaker 2>or fate or like any of that stuff. Or I
<v Speaker 2>don't belong in LA because I don't. I am not
<v Speaker 2>very woo woo. I'm no fun.
<v Speaker 4>Crystals just seem like rocks to me. I was on
<v Speaker 4>set one time and I and it's fine. People can
<v Speaker 4>believe in whatever they want to me, especially it makes
<v Speaker 4>them happy. But I was on set, I was getting
<v Speaker 4>my makeup done and there were these two lovely women
<v Speaker 4>behind me chatting who are also part of the scene.
<v Speaker 4>And one of them said, oh, my god, my dog
<v Speaker 4>is in Aries, And I said, no, we're not. That's
<v Speaker 4>too far. There has to be a line, there has
<v Speaker 4>to be a lie. We can't go that far, right,
<v Speaker 4>So I don't know. That's a very long winded what
<v Speaker 4>are you way?
<v Speaker 2>My god?
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't matter. My personality is not based on when
<v Speaker 4>my parents fucked what was happening in the sky, I
<v Speaker 4>swear to God. But it's fine if believes so you're yeah,
<v Speaker 4>and Aries, and that goes to show you are you?
<v Speaker 4>I am Oh my gosh, I don't believe that shit either.
<v Speaker 4>Oh so polite in my face, I know.
<v Speaker 3>I could see.
<v Speaker 2>Only virgos don't believe in the star signs. That's why
<v Speaker 2>we're the best star sign There we go.
<v Speaker 4>And I think it's a kind of a fun way
<v Speaker 4>to get people talking about their personalities, you know. I
<v Speaker 4>whatever makes people happy that isn't harming someone else, which
<v Speaker 4>I to bring it back to kind of this industry.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we're all consenting adults, and it's bringing me
<v Speaker 4>happiness in the person I'm working with and the people watching.
<v Speaker 4>So I just support anything like that.
<v Speaker 2>Can I ask you a question though, because and honestly, like,
<v Speaker 2>I am not a star assigned person at all, by
<v Speaker 2>no fucking stretch of the imagination, But I like this,
<v Speaker 2>Are you organized? I am? Now, yes, okay, are you
<v Speaker 2>like not like emotionally withdrawn? But are you like sometimes
<v Speaker 2>sort of like methodical and your like responses and just
<v Speaker 2>like not like not melodramatic maybe, Like I know, but
<v Speaker 2>I also feel like there are lots of really positive
<v Speaker 2>qualities that are like this that everyone could kind of
<v Speaker 2>say they are.
<v Speaker 4>I will say the parts that because I read my
<v Speaker 4>horoscope in the paper, the newspaper when that was a
<v Speaker 4>thing growing up, right, and it was fun to kind
<v Speaker 4>of see where it matched. But I'm very sexually passionate, right,
<v Speaker 4>I'm a very sexual person. I'm outgoing. That matches, sure,
<v Speaker 4>I am organized. I do have my shit together. I
<v Speaker 4>wasn't always this confident, Like that's kind of newer, and
<v Speaker 4>I think that's just come with age and time and
<v Speaker 4>this job. But I'm not quick to fight. I'm not
<v Speaker 4>fiery that way.
<v Speaker 2>Are Virgo supposed to be that?
<v Speaker 4>Aries?
<v Speaker 2>I'm an aries?
<v Speaker 3>Oh?
<v Speaker 4>Aries, So you're matching me with one that doesn't know okay,
<v Speaker 4>and my points is proven.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah see, I'm okay. I thought you said you were
<v Speaker 2>a Virgo.
<v Speaker 4>No Ari, Sorry, oh okay, sorry to disappoint, but I
<v Speaker 4>do match you, saying, of course, so your sign's not great, well,
<v Speaker 4>good thing it doesn't.
<v Speaker 2>It's not. I actually don't know. I literally know nothing
<v Speaker 2>about any signs except for Virgo because people tell me
<v Speaker 2>about it all the time when I tell them I'm
<v Speaker 2>a Virgo. But like a lot of those things like
<v Speaker 2>totally do match me, and I'm always like I feel
<v Speaker 2>like that's the same with everybody. That you'll have certain
<v Speaker 2>traits that match you, and I think it's nice to
<v Speaker 2>be able to say something quickly that people will relate
<v Speaker 2>to and know kind of how you are. But I
<v Speaker 2>just it's just like confirmation bias. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, here for it, you'll find it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, totally.
<v Speaker 3>Derek.
<v Speaker 2>What about you?
<v Speaker 3>Which part?
<v Speaker 2>So? Are you religious? Do you believe in God?
<v Speaker 3>No? I am full fledged atheist. I'm not like militant,
<v Speaker 3>like I'm one that, like you. If people that are religious,
<v Speaker 3>by all means, go forth, do your thing, don't do
<v Speaker 3>anything that's going to harm somebody else. I wasn't particularly
<v Speaker 3>raised religious, which is strange because I'm from Alabama. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I was going to say, like Hillbilly Alabama. My family
<v Speaker 3>never really pushed it. But if you spend any time
<v Speaker 3>in Alabama and you meet someone that is from there,
<v Speaker 3>the first three questions they're going to ask you, one
<v Speaker 3>of them is going to be which church do you
<v Speaker 3>go to? Yeah? And you know, me growing up the
<v Speaker 3>way I did, I never really went to church, and
<v Speaker 3>I started feeling the atheism bug pretty early. So by
<v Speaker 3>the time I was about twelve, I was like, no,
<v Speaker 3>this is just not for me. It's not I also
<v Speaker 3>had the people that I was surrounded by like other
<v Speaker 3>my peers, they were the cruel kind of Christian. They're like,
<v Speaker 3>you're different from us, You're going to hell right like
<v Speaker 3>by I remember sitting in a classroom one time and
<v Speaker 3>someone just like tapped me on the shoulder and I
<v Speaker 3>was like, hey, what's up, and they go going to hell.
<v Speaker 3>That was yeah. People, when I tell you people were
<v Speaker 3>cruel in life, Like people were just cruel. And so
<v Speaker 3>that was one of the things just because I was different,
<v Speaker 3>you know, struggling with my sexuality in Alabama, being an atheist,
<v Speaker 3>I dressed very grungy, you know, like heavy metal grunge
<v Speaker 3>like Marilyn Manson was really big when I was younger,
<v Speaker 3>So like I did that whole thing that was, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>you're going to hell because of how you look and
<v Speaker 3>what you like. So that turned me off from religion, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>even more.
<v Speaker 2>And probably especially too when you like came to terms
<v Speaker 2>with the fact that you're gay in the way that
<v Speaker 2>a lot of religions perceive being gay as yeah, which
<v Speaker 2>is like crazy.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So it's strangely enough, my family was very supportive
<v Speaker 3>about me being gay. My my true friends are like
<v Speaker 3>what I considered at the time, my true friends. They
<v Speaker 3>were like, oh, yeah, we know.
<v Speaker 2>I've had a couple of friends like yeah who came
<v Speaker 2>out to me And I was like, yeah, dude, we
<v Speaker 2>all we were just waiting for you to them around.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're like peeking in the closet like you're ready yet.
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know, but everyone else did.
<v Speaker 3>You were horny, you had you had the veil. The
<v Speaker 3>horny veil was on. And as far as astrology or
<v Speaker 3>any cosmic thing, now, I it's fun, like what you
<v Speaker 3>were saying, it's very fun. It's very cool to talk about.
<v Speaker 3>But like, I do not feel it describes me at all.
<v Speaker 3>Can you guess what sin I am?
<v Speaker 2>No, because again I don't know anything about signs except
<v Speaker 2>for Burgo. That's the only one I know. I don't
<v Speaker 2>know any of the rest of them.
<v Speaker 3>One of the things. So I'm one of the two
<v Speaker 3>signs that gets the most hate, okay, And that's why
<v Speaker 3>I've always kind of been like, well, this just to
<v Speaker 3>me is bullshit. Then yeah, I'm a Gemini.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, are you guys just be two faced or something?
<v Speaker 3>See?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I know that I know that.
<v Speaker 3>Both both of my both sides of me are wonderful,
<v Speaker 3>A strong jaw that's what it is. Yeah, So Scorpios
<v Speaker 3>and Gemini is get the most hate, and people have
<v Speaker 3>actually said, oh, I could never be a friend or
<v Speaker 3>a date a Gemini, and I'm just kind of like, Okay,
<v Speaker 3>that lets me know I don't want to be with
<v Speaker 3>you or be around you.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean the idea that somebody could like write
<v Speaker 2>you off over something that's just.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah when I was born. Yeah, I can't help it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's kind of a weird form of discrimination. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's odd. And I've I've had that as
<v Speaker 3>well of you know, people just being like ooh, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>you're a Gemini.
<v Speaker 2>So, Derek, what would you say are the two biggest
<v Speaker 2>differences between the straight and gay sides of the industry
<v Speaker 2>because they're pretty segregated. Like like I sadly like know
<v Speaker 2>almost nothing about the gay side, like working on the
<v Speaker 2>straight side.
<v Speaker 4>I didn't before meeting him. Yeah, no idea.
<v Speaker 2>And I you know, I've been like I said before,
<v Speaker 2>I've been in the industry for a long time, and
<v Speaker 2>you know, things have only changed now in a way
<v Speaker 2>where there's some blending and even like acceptance from the
<v Speaker 2>straight side of the gay side, like because before or
<v Speaker 2>like if you were a male performer and you ever
<v Speaker 2>did gay porn, if you tried to work in straight porn,
<v Speaker 2>it was like yeah, like they were very very judgmental
<v Speaker 2>and very like you were ostracized and you were you know,
<v Speaker 2>considered unsafe and like it was pretty bad. Yeah, So
<v Speaker 2>what's been your experience?
<v Speaker 3>Mine has at least I have not experienced it if
<v Speaker 3>there's been any negative to it, but mine's been nothing
<v Speaker 3>but positive. Yeah, I've I also have Sophia to think,
<v Speaker 3>and I owe a huge amount of my success to her,
<v Speaker 3>oh really on the on the straight side, as well
<v Speaker 3>as some of the trands and buy stuff, Like without her,
<v Speaker 3>I would have wandered into a minefield and probably made
<v Speaker 3>a lot of mistakes, Okay, And so you know, having her,
<v Speaker 3>she's helped me navigate it a lot better because one
<v Speaker 3>of the big differences on the gay side is like
<v Speaker 3>when it comes to gay men, we are naturally just
<v Speaker 3>very horny, very like no inhibitions of anything like. So
<v Speaker 3>if one of the ways that gays will be able
<v Speaker 3>to tell if you're interested is if they look at
<v Speaker 3>you for longer than three seconds, it's.
<v Speaker 4>On like it's a thing.
<v Speaker 3>It's a thing, and so like that is not a
<v Speaker 3>thing on the straight side, not at all. So gays
<v Speaker 3>can definitely be a lot more.
<v Speaker 4>That's a good word actually forward.
<v Speaker 3>Forward, Yeah, yes, like dms that I've gotten can be
<v Speaker 3>full of like are you like you want to fuck soon?
<v Speaker 3>Do you want to? Like? Oh I would love to
<v Speaker 3>do this. I would love to do this, And that
<v Speaker 3>would be the first message that they said. Yeah, and thankfully,
<v Speaker 3>Sophia let me know be like, don't do.
<v Speaker 4>That, Oh God, don't do that that. Women want to
<v Speaker 4>be approached with the kind of professional side to it, Yes, right,
<v Speaker 4>you want you want to be seen even though we
<v Speaker 4>all know what you're saying and we all know it's banging,
<v Speaker 4>we want it to be seen as you know, here's
<v Speaker 4>what I can offer as a collaborator, because we do
<v Speaker 4>have lots of options in our dms, and someone who
<v Speaker 4>comes at us that in a way that feels respectful
<v Speaker 4>and not horny first but more business first will be
<v Speaker 4>seen as like a better option. And so I was like,
<v Speaker 4>oh God, don't do that.
<v Speaker 2>I think also too, like one thing that women really
<v Speaker 2>have to guard that like men don't have to think
<v Speaker 2>about unfortunately, is like there's safety too, you know, and
<v Speaker 2>if you come across too aggressive then that that's a
<v Speaker 2>little scary.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, yeah. I mean we're meeting we're meeting people in
<v Speaker 4>their homes or you know, places like that, one on one,
<v Speaker 4>and and there are a lot of It's really nice
<v Speaker 4>because within the female community we have groups saying who's
<v Speaker 4>you know, safe or not safe for what your experiences
<v Speaker 4>are with people, because there are a lot of unsafe men,
<v Speaker 4>especially on the collaborator creator side, because there's no oversight
<v Speaker 4>with testing or you know, a director making sure or
<v Speaker 4>an agent you know, vouching for someone can be kind
<v Speaker 4>of scary. And so it putting your best foot forward
<v Speaker 4>and showing that you're safe and respectful right off the
<v Speaker 4>bat can get you pretty far.
<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, and it has. And I think the
<v Speaker 3>another thing is obviously pay. On the gay side, we
<v Speaker 3>do make more per scene, yeah, but there's a caveat
<v Speaker 3>to that. There's or there's a you know, an aside
<v Speaker 3>to that is on the gay side, I make more
<v Speaker 3>per scene, but there's not as much work because the
<v Speaker 3>gay side is a fraction of what is in the
<v Speaker 3>straight side. Like straight side is say behemoth of life.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean just statistically, there's more straight men than
<v Speaker 2>gay men right weight, So there's like a larger audience just.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly, more and more people willing to pay or
<v Speaker 3>straight porn than for gay porn. So there's not as
<v Speaker 3>much work on the gay side, But so on the
<v Speaker 3>straight side, I make less per scene, but I'm working constantly,
<v Speaker 3>Like I did just this past week. I had six
<v Speaker 3>scenes and it was That's why I was saying America's stepdad,
<v Speaker 3>because I was a stepdad twice in two of those scenes.
<v Speaker 3>And so yeah, there's I make less per scene, but
<v Speaker 3>I have more work. So it's it's for me. It
<v Speaker 3>balances out.
<v Speaker 2>He mean, you haven't had any issues where you know,
<v Speaker 2>the performer like discovered that you did cape porn and
<v Speaker 2>then them and was like, no, I don't want to
<v Speaker 2>work with him.
<v Speaker 3>No, No, that's great. No. And I because what you
<v Speaker 3>were talking about, you know what, ten fifteen years ago,
<v Speaker 3>it was definitely like a oh no, you're not there.
<v Speaker 3>There was a reason. I mean, it was the HIV epidemic,
<v Speaker 3>AIDS epidemic. It was a thing. I mean, in my
<v Speaker 3>beginning discovering my sexuality, I was afraid to have sex.
<v Speaker 3>It's for us, It was a death sentence, and so
<v Speaker 3>I kept from exploring a lot of myself because I
<v Speaker 3>was afraid. But now with the advent of testing how
<v Speaker 3>it is, and I'm also on what's called pre exposure
<v Speaker 3>Prophylaxis or PREP. It is a it's a mirror drug.
<v Speaker 3>It is a miracle pill that I take daily that
<v Speaker 3>keeps me HIV negative. Like, so, if I come into
<v Speaker 3>contact with someone that is HIV positive and not maintaining
<v Speaker 3>their level of infection, every load l viral load. I
<v Speaker 3>hate what they call it, that you love loads, not
<v Speaker 3>that load though, yeah, yeah, so if they're not, like,
<v Speaker 3>at least you're protecting yourself right from contracting HIV if
<v Speaker 3>you come into contact with it.
<v Speaker 4>And it's also i mean they're still doing studies on it,
<v Speaker 4>but it is safe for women. And so I'm on
<v Speaker 4>PREP and I have been for over a year because
<v Speaker 4>I like to be completely in control of my health, right.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, of course, being in this industry, there's going
<v Speaker 4>to be some risk when you're you know, being that
<v Speaker 4>physically intimate with so many people. But I'm testing every
<v Speaker 4>two weeks or less, and then also being on PREP
<v Speaker 4>means that I basically can't contract HIV if I were
<v Speaker 4>to run into it. And so that makes me feel
<v Speaker 4>safe about whoever I work with because I'm the one
<v Speaker 4>who's in control of it. I'm not relying on them
<v Speaker 4>to take a pill every day or for them not
<v Speaker 4>to do something outside of the industry that's unsafe with
<v Speaker 4>you know, male, female, any whatever, gay doesn't matter.
<v Speaker 2>So it's so crazy, like how just the way that
<v Speaker 2>it has changed with HIV. So you know, I remember,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, I grew up around the industry
<v Speaker 2>and my parents were shooting movies when HIV, like it
<v Speaker 2>first entered into like the world, right, And that's actually
<v Speaker 2>what stopped my mom from shooting movies because she, you know,
<v Speaker 2>it was very scary. And my parents were one of
<v Speaker 2>the first only people who were trying to test performers,
<v Speaker 2>and we had a blood truck outside of our home.
<v Speaker 2>I remember this as a kid, and they would have
<v Speaker 2>performers come out and test. But the problem is is that,
<v Speaker 2>you know, it would take two weeks to get results
<v Speaker 2>back through and then like who knows what you do
<v Speaker 2>in that time period, and so like, you know, after
<v Speaker 2>a while, they just felt like incredibly nervous and it
<v Speaker 2>just felt really unsafe. So they stopped shooting movies and
<v Speaker 2>at the time, you know, magazines were super lucrative and
<v Speaker 2>at the time, you actually didn't shoot penetration for magazines.
<v Speaker 2>It was all the like, you know, pose next to
<v Speaker 2>a vagina with like a semilimp dick, so like you know,
<v Speaker 2>she could like shoot that and she didn't have to
<v Speaker 2>shoot movies and she could so that didn't have to Yeah. So,
<v Speaker 2>but they stopped shooting movies back like in the late seventies,
<v Speaker 2>like early eighties because of that. Yeah, it's pretty and
<v Speaker 2>now like here we are where you can take medicine
<v Speaker 2>to literally prevent yourself from even getting it if you
<v Speaker 2>come in contact with somebody. It's nuts.
<v Speaker 3>And so I think that's another thing that is helpful
<v Speaker 3>is that I'm you know, I mayhi be negative and
<v Speaker 3>I will let anyone know. I'm like, I'm on this
<v Speaker 3>medication that will keep me this way, like no matter
<v Speaker 3>what happens. Yeah, And so I think that's it. It's
<v Speaker 3>it you know, makes people realize you're safe, healthy, like
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to have my health compromised because of
<v Speaker 3>what you do on the side kind of thing. Yeah. So,
<v Speaker 3>but I I really haven't experienced any difficulty getting work
<v Speaker 3>on the straight side. It's been great.
<v Speaker 2>The landscape has changed so much, it's really great.
<v Speaker 3>I also attributed to my professionalism and what she's talking.
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to his awards, you know.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's been really fun to share what I've learned
<v Speaker 4>of course too. But I wouldn't recommend him, or I wouldn't,
<v Speaker 4>you know, be so adamant about making sure he knows
<v Speaker 4>all the things that I know if he didn't show
<v Speaker 4>up and do the job and was reliable and like,
<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm happy to be able to help in any
<v Speaker 4>way that I can.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, because he does a good job. We
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<v Speaker 2>talk about vaginal discharge. Hi, all right, I'm ready hit me.
<v Speaker 4>So I feel pretty strongly about this because I noticed
<v Speaker 4>getting onto sets that there were there was kind of
<v Speaker 4>an unspoken expectation of douching right, which is you know,
<v Speaker 4>filling your vagina typically with water and getting out whatever's
<v Speaker 4>in there. And this came as a surprise to me
<v Speaker 4>because after camming for seven years and using dildos and
<v Speaker 4>not really thinking about what that meant, that you had
<v Speaker 4>your naturally occurring discharge, you know, like that white kind
<v Speaker 4>of creamy fluid for anyone who doesn't know. It was
<v Speaker 4>surprising to me that there was an expectation to not
<v Speaker 4>show that on camera, right, because ever since puberty, that
<v Speaker 4>was a daily occurrence for me, right, and something that's
<v Speaker 4>natural and healthy basically for for women to have. It
<v Speaker 4>concerns me a little bit that we're putting out this
<v Speaker 4>product that when people go and have sex in real life,
<v Speaker 4>if they see this, they might think that there's something
<v Speaker 4>wrong possibly, And I know that there are some like
<v Speaker 4>credit card company processing issues where they see it the
<v Speaker 4>same as period blood or feces or sometimes squirt where
<v Speaker 4>they don't want to see that. And I just want
<v Speaker 4>to say that it's a normal thing, and it changes
<v Speaker 4>throughout your menstrual cycle, and you can tell that if
<v Speaker 4>it's a clear consistency and stretchy that means you're ovulating
<v Speaker 4>or you know, at the beginning or the end of
<v Speaker 4>your menstrual cycle. It's a little bit thicker and white,
<v Speaker 4>and so it's just what a vagina naturally does. And
<v Speaker 4>so it's just my PSA because I've even heard it
<v Speaker 4>from male performers, some of the younger ones. If they
<v Speaker 4>see that on set, they're surprised to and then they
<v Speaker 4>think that there's something wrong. Yeah, there's an infection. And
<v Speaker 4>obviously if there's like a smell or something like that,
<v Speaker 4>there's something wrong. And we have to be careful with
<v Speaker 4>our phlece because of how much we have sex. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>but I'd love to just have like a wider understanding
<v Speaker 4>of how female bodies work and how that's just like
<v Speaker 4>a natural part of it.
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting. I remember I was shooting this girl once
<v Speaker 2>and her fans were really into like creamy it's like scenes,
<v Speaker 2>and I remember she like, actually, I was a little
<v Speaker 2>bit shocked by this because I thought, this is not
<v Speaker 2>good for your vagina. She put like hand lotion oh
<v Speaker 2>up her vagina. Because we were in Vegas, it was
<v Speaker 2>a vin and I was shooting content stuff like in
<v Speaker 2>trade in my bedroom in my suite, and and she'd
<v Speaker 2>like didn't have anything else around She's like, oh, let
<v Speaker 2>me use this, and she like shoved it up her
<v Speaker 2>vagina in size yes no, and then like put in
<v Speaker 2>the dilda.
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, oh, that's not good anything from
<v Speaker 4>the outside. It's a self cleaning mechanis, yeah, and juicing
<v Speaker 4>itself is not.
<v Speaker 2>Like it was for show. And I was like, but anyways,
<v Speaker 2>So after that, and so she explained to me that
<v Speaker 2>like her fans were really into that, because before I
<v Speaker 2>had always you know, told like told girls if it
<v Speaker 2>was there, to wipe it away. And then after that
<v Speaker 2>I realized, I'm like, okay, some people like that, and
<v Speaker 2>so if I saw it, I would stop and I
<v Speaker 2>would tell the girl, but I would ask her, I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>do you want because some girls want to show that, right,
<v Speaker 2>because like, like you said, it's a natural thing. Some
<v Speaker 2>fans like it, and then other girls don't want to
<v Speaker 2>show that, and they'd be mortified of it and tell
<v Speaker 2>them right. So I would always kind of be like,
<v Speaker 2>I love that approach.
<v Speaker 4>And what I say is, you know, my pussy doesn't
<v Speaker 4>really love douching. My pH doesn't like that. If it's
<v Speaker 4>naturally a little creamy during the stills or whatever, I'm
<v Speaker 4>happy to wipe it off if that's something that the
<v Speaker 4>site doesn't want, or the guy doesn't want, or the
<v Speaker 4>girl sharing the dick doesn't want. I also want to
<v Speaker 4>respect to other people's like comfort levels with fluids. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>of course, but just the general idea that I mean,
<v Speaker 4>I've seen girls kind of go to panic douche because
<v Speaker 4>they're so worried about, you know, someone thinking that there's
<v Speaker 4>something wrong with them, if that's happening, and I would
<v Speaker 4>love to see less of that.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would say. And I'm a gay
<v Speaker 3>dude and working on the straight side. I'm like, you
<v Speaker 3>know your body better than I do. I'm like, I'm
<v Speaker 3>whatever is happening, I'm good, So like step your game
<v Speaker 3>up straight dudes.
<v Speaker 4>He'll he'll take out makeup sponges for appearance for girls.
<v Speaker 2>I mean he is, Yeah, sometimes you gotta do that,
<v Speaker 2>you know, Yes, you got to help the girl and
<v Speaker 2>sometimes like it's you know, the male performer, it is
<v Speaker 2>a courtesy to help them with that. And sometimes if
<v Speaker 2>they won't do that. I've had to do that for girls. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm definitely like, sometimes you push it way
<v Speaker 2>the fuck up there.
<v Speaker 4>I have been squatting, crying, in my bathtub. I with
<v Speaker 4>like this thing we're doing this, it is not cute.
<v Speaker 4>So it's always it gives me like a little plus
<v Speaker 4>one for any guy that's comfortable enough with women's bodies
<v Speaker 4>to just reach right in there and help.
<v Speaker 2>It's like, hey, you put your dick up there, you
<v Speaker 2>can put your hand up.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, come on, you'll put your fingers in there earlier.
<v Speaker 2>Just seeze a little bit.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I was on a set with a girl that
<v Speaker 3>she she started as we were filming. She started her
<v Speaker 3>period as we were filming, and I was like, I'm good, Like,
<v Speaker 3>don't be upset, don't be She got a sponge and
<v Speaker 3>I let her know. I was like, I hope this
<v Speaker 3>isn't too forward, but if you need me to fish
<v Speaker 3>it out of there, I'm here for you. I'm here
<v Speaker 3>because I knew she had told me about this, and
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I knew, and I'm I think. I
<v Speaker 3>guess that's another thing about being on the straight side
<v Speaker 3>is that you know it's it's all about the women
<v Speaker 3>illustrates it as it should be, and so as a guy,
<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of like, hey, I'm here to do whatever
<v Speaker 3>I can to help you out and like make sure
<v Speaker 3>that this is a great show for everybody like I'm
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm pole. I understand that I'm just the pole
<v Speaker 3>face unless it's VR that is just a pretty dick.
<v Speaker 2>Do you guys have any like crazy wild onset bts stories.
<v Speaker 4>Speaking of penises, I did which we love to talk about.
<v Speaker 4>I did the site Futinari. This one, you know, isn't that.
<v Speaker 2>Where they like fill fake penis with fake coum and
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of it.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, it's part of it. I guess part of the
<v Speaker 4>fetish is is that it is a cisgendered woman who
<v Speaker 4>grows a penis, and so they do that. They have
<v Speaker 4>like a little balloon that they blow into that you know,
<v Speaker 4>shows and the insert shot that.
<v Speaker 2>Like it's growing, right, okay. And then.
<v Speaker 4>This site had a full almost like biker shorts apparatus
<v Speaker 4>that you put on that had a penis and so
<v Speaker 4>that way it went all the way up to your
<v Speaker 4>rib cage and then the pants part went down your
<v Speaker 4>thigh and so if you lifted your shirt, it looked
<v Speaker 4>like the penis was definitely still attached to you. Within
<v Speaker 4>that there was a syringe with a tube or tube
<v Speaker 4>bleeding to a syringe and then the director, Ricky Greenwood,
<v Speaker 4>in this case, was on the ground pumping Fate come
<v Speaker 4>through the tube with my fake dick and I'm and
<v Speaker 4>it's all over. Sweet Jesel Blanco. She was such a
<v Speaker 4>trooper and she.
<v Speaker 2>Is such a true I just want to put that
<v Speaker 2>girl through a lot. She's always like her, She's always
<v Speaker 2>she was.
<v Speaker 4>So into it. It was great, just hovered in fate.
<v Speaker 4>Com So part of it is that someone grows a penis,
<v Speaker 4>and that it's a lot, a lot, a lot of
<v Speaker 4>com like fake Come. And I've done a lot of
<v Speaker 4>strapping like, I've done a lot of strap on scenes,
<v Speaker 4>and I've never felt the way I felt when putting
<v Speaker 4>on this bicycle shorts penis. I had the confidence of
<v Speaker 4>every mediocre man. I was sexually harassing every man on
<v Speaker 4>that set. Everyone wanted to get away from me and
<v Speaker 4>my giant dog. It was fantastic. I understood. I finally understood.
<v Speaker 2>It felt like a man man.
<v Speaker 4>It was. It was fantastic. So that one was a
<v Speaker 4>weird and fun one. Oh my god, that's so good.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Derek, what about you?
<v Speaker 3>The one that comes to mind for me was just
<v Speaker 3>an onset kind of not really a mishap, but just
<v Speaker 3>it just happened. We were filming a fisting movie. It
<v Speaker 3>was called When Push Comes to Shove.
<v Speaker 4>Of course, so good.
<v Speaker 3>We were The location that we were at was the
<v Speaker 3>producer's house, and he had trained his like his echo
<v Speaker 3>or whatever it is, like his you know, AI assistant
<v Speaker 3>or whatever that if he's coughing or like clearing his
<v Speaker 3>throat a lot, he's trained it to say, drink some water,
<v Speaker 3>you thirsty bitch. It's fantastic. And so we get to
<v Speaker 3>filming and I am throat fucking this guy, like going
<v Speaker 3>to town on him, and so you hear just like that.
<v Speaker 3>We're in the middle of filming and that thing pops
<v Speaker 3>off and says, drink some water, you thirsty bitch. You know, me,
<v Speaker 3>being the consummate professional I am, I'm like, I'm gonna
<v Speaker 3>keep going. I did not just that, like, but everybody
<v Speaker 3>just on set heard it, and eventually, like within five seconds,
<v Speaker 3>we were all in tears laughing, and we was like, cut, cut,
<v Speaker 3>we can't do this. And so in the middle of
<v Speaker 3>that a little mishap that happens on set, but it
<v Speaker 3>was perfect.
<v Speaker 2>Wow, it sounds like you need to rename the.
<v Speaker 3>Movie Thirsty bitch.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that's so good. So, Sophia, you're really
<v Speaker 2>into BDSM and kink, like you mentioned before. What draws
<v Speaker 2>you to those kinds of scenes?
<v Speaker 4>I kind of at my core as an aries, I'm
<v Speaker 4>very wait I thought you were a pergo. Yeah, thank you.
<v Speaker 4>I am very thrill seeking. I think I have high testosterone.
<v Speaker 4>I have a really high sex drive. And that's manifested itself.
<v Speaker 4>Like that thrill seeking behavior as manifested itself in basically
<v Speaker 4>finding things that will spike my adrenaline. Right, So the
<v Speaker 4>things like BDSM and fear play or you know, feeling
<v Speaker 4>helpless or really succumbing to someone else being in control,
<v Speaker 4>that's what draws me to it basically. And so I'm
<v Speaker 4>coming up on nine years of no drinking, right and
<v Speaker 4>I used to congratulation.
<v Speaker 2>I'm coming up on seven.
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, congratulations. That's amazing. Yeah, it's changed my
<v Speaker 4>life for the better in all ways basically. And I
<v Speaker 4>had found that when I was in my early twenties,
<v Speaker 4>I would do kind of anything to feel that thrill, right,
<v Speaker 4>And so that was maybe partying and drinking and let's
<v Speaker 4>se where the night takes me, or like sex or
<v Speaker 4>those kind of things, basically, and so through BDSM and
<v Speaker 4>through POORN, I feel like I've channeled that desire, Like
<v Speaker 4>my life would be so boring if I didn't have
<v Speaker 4>something to get me going that way. And yeah, now
<v Speaker 4>now I have this outlet that feels like a good
<v Speaker 4>professional way to do it. And every so often I
<v Speaker 4>still do BDSM shoots. I'll probably do one or two
<v Speaker 4>with Kink a month at this point, so I get
<v Speaker 4>to let it out sometimes. But as I've gotten older
<v Speaker 4>and I've experienced more and I've gotten more in control
<v Speaker 4>of my life, I enjoy BDSM for the ability to
<v Speaker 4>blank out for a second, to be completely present, because
<v Speaker 4>that's so difficult for me because even with shooting, you
<v Speaker 4>have a million things going on in your head that
<v Speaker 4>you're tracking and you're paying attention to and you're in
<v Speaker 4>control of. And so this way, if someone can overwhelm
<v Speaker 4>me or you know, spike my adrenaline enough that I
<v Speaker 4>actually kind of check out for just a second, it's bliss.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because that was one thing that alcohol was helpful with,
<v Speaker 2>isn't it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>I mean alcohol for me was never an escape luckily,
<v Speaker 4>Like I didn't really struggle with anything where drugs or
<v Speaker 4>alcohol was escapism for me. It was this seems fun,
<v Speaker 4>and let's keep doing it. So at least this way
<v Speaker 4>I could make money at the thing where this thing,
<v Speaker 4>this seems fun, Let's keep doing it.
<v Speaker 2>Yea, yeah, for a career. So you also did a
<v Speaker 2>huge boukcocky scene in Madrid, which is so funny. I've
<v Speaker 2>been hearing about this boucocky pretty t avaganza in Madrid
<v Speaker 2>from several people that I've had on lately.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, you talked with Sadie Summers about it, had told
<v Speaker 4>her about it. I've been sending Americans to them because
<v Speaker 4>it was the most organized, fantastic experience top two scene.
<v Speaker 2>Of all time.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So how did that go?
<v Speaker 4>I just drowned and come, you know, I mean a
<v Speaker 4>typical Tuesday. No, it was. It was incredible. It was
<v Speaker 4>so well organized. I didn't know what to expect because
<v Speaker 4>I was told about it. I was already in Europe,
<v Speaker 4>and so I figured I just, you know, hop on
<v Speaker 4>over and the director, the director I've over. You know,
<v Speaker 4>it's the best life ever. I tried to tell you.
<v Speaker 4>I met with the director the night before and we
<v Speaker 4>went to dinner and he kind of told me how
<v Speaker 4>it worked. And explained that everyone was tested and showed
<v Speaker 4>me the excel sp red sheets of how they organize
<v Speaker 4>all of it. They have guys, so they have a
<v Speaker 4>roster of three hundred in Madrid and they're all referral base.
<v Speaker 2>It's so great. Three hundred testagies guys.
<v Speaker 4>And they're referral base, so it's not just guys off
<v Speaker 4>the street, right, right. And what he said to me was,
<v Speaker 4>so they're not necessarily models, but they're not monsters. So
<v Speaker 4>that was a nice way to describe. Everyone is very normal, right,
<v Speaker 4>They're very like normal guys. And they have a testing
<v Speaker 4>facility down the street that gets your test back in
<v Speaker 4>six hours.
<v Speaker 2>Do those people make bank on those days?
<v Speaker 4>Incredible? Right, everyone gets paid. There are nine fluffers at
<v Speaker 4>least for my shoot with eighty men that showed up
<v Speaker 4>for that day, because they shoot twice a week, there
<v Speaker 4>were eighty men. There were nine fluffers, these wonderful Columbian
<v Speaker 4>women who come. It so busy, yes, so busy, but
<v Speaker 4>it was so organized. They lined up in front of
<v Speaker 4>the fluffers while watching my porn on the TV, and
<v Speaker 4>I just stood off to the side in my green
<v Speaker 4>room because the fluffers had their own green room with
<v Speaker 4>candy and pink furniture they imported, and so they all
<v Speaker 4>stood in front of the fluffers and the women sat
<v Speaker 4>in a chair and you know, bleue each guy with
<v Speaker 4>a baby wipe in between, like just and it was
<v Speaker 4>like a machine, so that by the time I was
<v Speaker 4>ready to be called up, they were all ready for me.
<v Speaker 4>I didn't wait for a single cum shot. It was
<v Speaker 4>incredibly organized. They had a speech beforehand. I had three
<v Speaker 4>different medications. They gave me some mighty tell me you
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't hurt too much, yes, because it was I didn't
<v Speaker 4>know that it originally. I wasn't aware that it was
<v Speaker 4>mostly swallowing. I thought it was being covered in it.
<v Speaker 4>And they typically only do about five facials at the end,
<v Speaker 4>and I asked for more, so they gave me ten
<v Speaker 4>at the end. After I swallowed. Guys came multiple times,
<v Speaker 4>so I swallowed one hundred and twenty two loads and
<v Speaker 4>then took ten to them because they have someone there
<v Speaker 4>with a clicker, right, Not well, the clicker happens after
<v Speaker 4>like that. They put it on the screen later. But
<v Speaker 4>the first the first shift, I love my left so much.
<v Speaker 4>The first shift is fifty comshots so you take ten well,
<v Speaker 4>you do an eight to ten minute blow bang, and
<v Speaker 4>then you do you do one at a time, you
<v Speaker 4>hold it in your mouth for ten shots or ten loads,
<v Speaker 4>and and then you look at the camera and you swallow,
<v Speaker 4>and then you do ten more and then you look
<v Speaker 4>at the camera and you swallow. And I wasn't sure
<v Speaker 4>how I'd feel about it because during that meeting with
<v Speaker 4>the director of the night before, we tried to figure
<v Speaker 4>out about how many like how much that would be
<v Speaker 4>in like MILLI leaders of come if we did that,
<v Speaker 4>And it was a little bit under a leader of
<v Speaker 4>com that I swallowed approximately, you know, and you can't
<v Speaker 4>be super accurate. And then he showed me pictures of
<v Speaker 4>his cat on a boat, so we were besties. It's fantastic,
<v Speaker 4>but it was it's a ton of coum. And I
<v Speaker 4>wasn't sure how I was going to feel about it
<v Speaker 4>because I love come, sure, but I'm kind of a
<v Speaker 4>like I'm a farmed table sort of girl comes to come,
<v Speaker 4>like I want it straight from the source, non GMO.
<v Speaker 3>What I guess it's the title of the episode, Farm
<v Speaker 3>the Table Come.
<v Speaker 4>Farm to Table Come. So there's like a literally there's
<v Speaker 4>a bowl involved you hold a bowl underneath and whatever,
<v Speaker 4>whatever doesn't whatever doesn't get in your mouth. Sorry, one
<v Speaker 4>of the Columbian girls was a scooper, and so I
<v Speaker 4>was on my knees with a blunder my under my
<v Speaker 4>mouth and whatever doesn't get in your mouth goes in
<v Speaker 4>the bowl and you drink it after right, And so
<v Speaker 4>that's why I was worried, and I was worried about
<v Speaker 4>swallowing that much. But the first the first ten shots
<v Speaker 4>and then the bowl after the fifty, I was feral.
<v Speaker 4>It was so much fun I had. I was in
<v Speaker 4>totally dialed in. The adrenaline was sky high. And then
<v Speaker 4>you do an interview. After the fifty, you come back,
<v Speaker 4>and then you do whatever else they can do, right,
<v Speaker 4>And so that was the the other So you gotta
<v Speaker 4>do at least fifty, at least fifty and then whatever
<v Speaker 4>else they have left, right, And so that was the
<v Speaker 4>rest of the one twenty two, and then they did
<v Speaker 4>the ten to the face and it was a delight am.
<v Speaker 4>I tummy was okay until later on that night a
<v Speaker 4>little bit that was it was a little upset, but
<v Speaker 4>I didn't throw up. They say about forty percent of
<v Speaker 4>the girls throw up yeah, but I was just just
<v Speaker 4>delighted to be there. It was such like a just
<v Speaker 4>a crazy story for the Rocking Chair when I'm old,
<v Speaker 4>right or they.
<v Speaker 2>I kind of want to come and like shoot a
<v Speaker 2>documentary on this. Oh, this is like so interesting, like
<v Speaker 2>the organized, like the green room and like the nine Fluffers,
<v Speaker 2>and like the candy and like You're porn and like
<v Speaker 2>the clicker and like the bowl and.
<v Speaker 4>The Scooper Scooper. I was almost more turned on by
<v Speaker 4>the organization, and I was and I was the cop. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>it was really really well organized, and so I yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I was. I was impressed by the whole production.
<v Speaker 3>Fun little side note. We send voice notes to each
<v Speaker 3>other pretty much every day, Yeah, roughly what two minutes regularly.
<v Speaker 3>She sent me a voice note after that, and it
<v Speaker 3>was ten minutes long, gushing at like what had just
<v Speaker 3>happened to her. She was and like the light. The
<v Speaker 3>sound in her voice was one of I am the
<v Speaker 3>happiest I have been so long.
<v Speaker 4>I'm where I belong.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, was I remember that very much.
<v Speaker 4>So it is really fun because I get voice notes
<v Speaker 4>from him, especially after like really like when he when
<v Speaker 4>he feels really good about a scene and like is
<v Speaker 4>exhilarated by it, and so I get these voice notes.
<v Speaker 4>I also get ones where he's in another country and
<v Speaker 4>he's telling me all like the dirty things that have
<v Speaker 4>happened like that day too. It's a really lovely friendship
<v Speaker 4>where you can say, like there was this much cum
<v Speaker 4>I'm happy for you, buddy.
<v Speaker 2>I just like, I just feel like this is a
<v Speaker 2>movie and it's Bucacki and Madrid. Yep, that's the title,
<v Speaker 2>and there's just like flowers. Yeah, you know, I see
<v Speaker 2>the opening sequence and there's like music, and you're a visionary,
<v Speaker 2>I see it. Would you ever do something like that?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>I would have no hesitation.
<v Speaker 3>The Yeah, no, I would. I'm I'm also a big
<v Speaker 3>like my thing is balls, Like I love a nice
<v Speaker 3>big pair of balls. And like there's also a I
<v Speaker 3>tune into like there's come.
<v Speaker 2>Right from Yeah, that's where they come from.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And so I'm I would absolutely do it as well.
<v Speaker 2>Interesting, right, I don't know. I feel like there's a
<v Speaker 2>challenge afoot oh a come challenge that's delightful of us.
<v Speaker 3>Are there are enough men?
<v Speaker 4>That's going to be the issue. It's going to be
<v Speaker 4>the amount of men that are capable.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my God. All right, I got one more question
<v Speaker 2>for you, Derek, and then we do have some Patreon questions,
<v Speaker 2>which we will do in a separate segment. So, Derek,
<v Speaker 2>you have a distinctly deep voice, and based on some
<v Speaker 2>YouTube comments, people are very into it. Would you ever
<v Speaker 2>lean into that and do like audio based porn? Did
<v Speaker 2>you like ASMR ever or anything like that.
<v Speaker 3>I honestly feel like I should.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think you.
<v Speaker 3>I think that I could make quite a living off.
<v Speaker 2>Of doing that would be a great idea.
<v Speaker 3>I've actually been taking voice acting classes as well, for
<v Speaker 3>like audio books. I had a podcast for a minute,
<v Speaker 3>but then I just kind of I got too busy,
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, I.
<v Speaker 2>Can it takes. It's a commitment.
<v Speaker 3>It is a commitment that I don't have the time for.
<v Speaker 3>But no, I've I've had this voice since I was eleven,
<v Speaker 3>Literally this voice, this voice. That was another reason I
<v Speaker 3>got the like you're going to hell because people thought
<v Speaker 3>I had it was possessed or people thought that I
<v Speaker 3>had some sort of thing wrong with me because my
<v Speaker 3>voice was so deep. And now I'm like, jokes on them,
<v Speaker 3>you know, but.
<v Speaker 2>It was, I swear to God, an eleven year old
<v Speaker 2>boy walked up to me and talked the way you did.
<v Speaker 3>It be like see, yeah, people are just like, what
<v Speaker 3>is happening here? Yeah, So you know, I've I've learned
<v Speaker 3>to real I've realized that, oh, this is a huge
<v Speaker 3>advantage for me to have this voice. And yeah, I'm
<v Speaker 3>taking voice acting classes and I think eventually down the
<v Speaker 3>road once my on camera performances are you know, going
<v Speaker 3>by the wayside of voice acting is definitely something I
<v Speaker 3>would like to do.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you definitely could excel at that. Thank you, well,
<v Speaker 2>Thank you guys so much. This has been so much fun.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I feel like we could go on
<v Speaker 2>and on and on, but uh yeah, we still got
<v Speaker 2>we got more questions for you for like I said
<v Speaker 2>for the Patreon segment. In the meantime, can you guys
<v Speaker 2>tell everyone where they can find you online? Sophia you
<v Speaker 2>want to.
<v Speaker 4>Start, sure, you can find me on x formerly known
<v Speaker 4>as Twitter, at Underscore, Sophia Lack Underscore. My only fans
<v Speaker 4>is the Sophia Lock and then my other social media
<v Speaker 4>is Underscore, Sophia Lock, Underscore, so TikTok and Instagram.
<v Speaker 2>And at Sophia Luck with It e A. L. S
<v Speaker 2>K okay, and then Derek, how about you.
<v Speaker 3>You can find all of my stuff at Derekcage dot com.
<v Speaker 3>D E R E K K A g EJ. Got
<v Speaker 3>to add a little flair in there. Yeah, Derek Caage
<v Speaker 3>dot com has all of my thinks and everything.
<v Speaker 2>And then you guys can find all of my links
<v Speaker 2>at hollylinks dot com. Of course, go to Patreon dot
<v Speaker 2>com slash Holly Randall and altered to watch these interviews
<v Speaker 2>streamed live, get access to the bonus Q and A
<v Speaker 2>that we're about to do, and so much more. Thank
<v Speaker 2>you guys so much for tuning in, and I will
<v Speaker 2>see you on the next one.