TGI – Episode 515 “First Girlfriends’ Club”

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Speaker 1: So I can't even say it.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm just gonna show you what.

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Speaker 3: What, Oh old man in glasses, Well you can't.

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Speaker 4: Your glass eye stopped working.

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Speaker 5: No, my reading eyes stopped working. And the first pair that I ordered are in the other room, and she was.

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Speaker 3: Like, you can't. You can't wear those, You can't wear these.

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Speaker 6: These are a real particular this is a real specific choice of Harry Potter.

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Speaker 1: So if I take it off like this and I start to talk like, it's all right, i'miony, no strong, I can do that. But I was kind of going Harry Potter.

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Speaker 5: But the thing that's funny is I don't think I need them, and then when I just put them on to.

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Speaker 1: Show you, you are both super clear. So maybe I do. But I'm still not going to wear them.

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Speaker 5: But yes, So we're getting to the age where I'm needing implements to help me live my everyday life.

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Speaker 4: Who helped you with the style choice?

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Speaker 1: Nobody? Oh, nobody, Amazon, Amazon.

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Speaker 3: Did you literally type in Harry Potter glasses?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 5: I just typed in glasses and the first ones I got are these tiny little spectacles that I put on the end of my nose, like Ben Franklin and she's like, please, please, don't, please, don't do that. And so I ordered the next ones and through.

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Speaker 3: These Okay, this this exact same thing is happening to Shiloh and he's freaking out the exact same way. And we found these like cheap little kid glass like duct tape to them and like a little loop around them at our house. We're like, who's are these? They're like, must have been one of Indy's friends. We're like, but Indie, you know, we know which friends wear glasses. No one wears glasses like this. I was like, these look like a prop from like an eighties venture movie, like the geeky kid glasses from Goodness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly it.

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Speaker 3: It's basically it's it's Corey Feller, but it's like glasses, but like with this little duct tape like rope attached to him. But whose are And then Shiloh comes over and he's like, oh you found my glasses?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that makes sense. Okay, you can pull the loop.

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Speaker 1: You need the loops so they don't pull off when you're playing canasta.

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Speaker 3: It's very do you.

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Speaker 2: Guys, Do you guys remember franchise from from Girl meets World of course. Okay, So Frank wore glasses that I clocked immediately and was like, when I need glasses, this is what I'm getting. They they want a magnet in the middle, and so you could put them on and then you just take them apart and put them around your It's so cool.

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Speaker 4: I also, though, do want by the goals?

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Speaker 2: I want that then I have to lower down.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I like writing and then I'll look up at the TV reading or writing.

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Speaker 3: But the way you're acting prop it's a good business.

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Speaker 4: You should I do that.

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Speaker 5: Well, I've noticed myself doing this when I'm thinking, I'll be like this, it's good.

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Speaker 4: What else you can do it?

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Speaker 2: You can start massaging this part of Yeah, I've been wearing the glasses all day.

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Speaker 1: It hurts Daniel.

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Speaker 5: You were you were saying some things as if you don't appreciate the style that I've chosen for myself, almost as if this isn't the look for me.

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong in that assessment that you've just come up with.

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Speaker 3: I'm on, I think you should go to shopping within y'all for glasses that.

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Speaker 5: We should know holy because then I'm going to have zero point seventy five readers that cost me eleven hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: I bought fourteen pairs for nine bucks.

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Speaker 3: That's the difference.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, looks like it. I can read. It's like if John Lennon were a librarian exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's right when me started us.

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Speaker 2: I think, I think Sue is a great partner to also go shopping with you.

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Speaker 1: You know, you don't, I don't know. Sue again goes to the doctor at Costco, So I.

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Speaker 4: Think there's no way you got these at You.

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Speaker 3: Can go online and hold your phone up and'll put the on your face.

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Speaker 1: You can do crazy.

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Speaker 3: I've done that. You can do some virtual trials that actually do with furniture now too. Have you seen that?

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Speaker 5: Like you buy a couch and you go to your in the room and it like puts the couch in.

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Speaker 2: Your I sure have on Wayfair Absolutely there you best thing ever.

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Speaker 3: There's an amazing video you guys should both watch. It was a It was a New York Times article I want to say, like three or four years ago, all about Meryl Street, who is just you know, living actor of all time. But she she this essay broke down how often she uses acting and it's so crazy you're like, wow, I never noticed this. Once you've noticed it, you can never see it. But it's really good. She actually does it really well. I'm like, a kudos to Turgs. I never noticed until this essay, but you should go check it out because.

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Speaker 2: I remember reading that and thinking, wow, that's so cool. It's like Brad Pitt with his easy eating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in this scene.

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Speaker 1: I just read something about that.

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Speaker 5: In the scene where Brad Pitt is in it's I think it's Oceans twelve or thirteen where he's got to eat. No, it's the first one where he's eating the shrimp cocktail. He refused to stop and ended up eating something like forty shrimp and got horribly ill for the rest of the day. So yeah, i'd be able to see it perfectly now, though, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: We can't see her eyes at all, though I know I never come off.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's okay, we just won't tell when he's sleeping exactly.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to Pod meets World. I'm Daniel Fischl, I'm Righter Strong, and I'm wilfredell.

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Speaker 2: So jumping into our recap today, we are recapping season five, episode fifteen, First Girlfriend's Club. It originally aired February thirteenth, nineteen ninety eight, so it was the day before Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 1: Rose Valentine's Day, yep ye the synopsis.

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Speaker 2: On Valentine's Day, a trio of ex girlfriends kidnapped Sean to keep him from hurting Angela. Meanwhile, Corey must face the music when Tapanga reads Lauren's letter. It was directed by Alan Myerson, The story is by Mark Blutman and Howard Buskang, and the teleplay was by Patricia Carr and Laura Ruynolds.

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Speaker 3: Laura writing, like a ton of this season.

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Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely want to talk about our overall thoughts before I jump into our fantastic trio of major returns.

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Speaker 3: It's a strange episode.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I thought about this episode.

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Speaker 5: I'll be honest. I honestly I even said that I watched it twice. I woke up this morning and I said to Sushik, you can do and you run.

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, Sid, what do you think? I was like, I honestly don't know. No, Trino was great.

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Speaker 5: This was Trina's best episode so far. I agree, she was really good. It was just weird.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know what to think about it.

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Speaker 1: I don't either.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I literally feel exactly the same way. I can't believe that we're all like on a fence writing feeling about this episode. I really loved, like you said, I thought Trina was spectacular, and I loved that it actually really felt like Trina and Tapega, So Angela and to Pinga actually had a friendship and that truthfully, Angela's personality came alive with Tapega.

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Speaker 3: She had a character. Yes, yes, yeah, it was like the complete they wrote a finally like a character. You know. Yes, I think it was a little at odds with the Sean and angel Like the Angela we had already kind of established, like I actually we hadn't established much, and that's kind of point. But you know, she was like in those in that first episode where we actually got together, you know, and I Trina talked about this, she was kind of soft spoken and like kind of sweet and like the idea that she's into Vivaldi and like, you know, poetry, whereas like this Angela is much more like kind of she's tough. She if she makes she takes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like and I was like, oh.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well this feels more right, like this is a character you know, but agreed, but otherwise, yeah, this episode.

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Speaker 2: I also am now at a point with the Sean and Angela storyline where I'm like, pick A Lane, do you want to be Corey in Topanga or do you not want to be Corey in Topanga?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Why do we have to keep going back and forth?

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand, like.

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Speaker 2: That is bothering me now, Like, on the one hand, you're like, you know, in the last episode when Tapega says a falcon because you always come home to me, Angela looks at Sean and says, you know, kill me if I ever get like that, and you say, oh, I'd have to. And then in this episode you're like, I've never wanted anything else but to have a love like Corey and Topanga, and so I want to be friends with you in order to replicate what they have.

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Speaker 4: It's just weird.

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Speaker 5: And then.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I don't.

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Speaker 1: It's an episode.

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Speaker 3: It's an episode that operates on this like kind of esoteric realm of ideas, you know, and it's just and I feel like Boy Meets World is slipping more and more into that, which I don't love because it's all very abstract. It's characters talking about their feelings and these like abstract, idealized way. Like it's just very esoteric. I just don't like it's hard to wrap your head. And then like, what's interesting about that is that it's actually a very like externalized plot, Like I mean, it's kidnapped, and you.

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Speaker 2: Care in what realm would this ever happen?

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Speaker 5: Right, But it's also there's there's a there we are now officially to the point of and we've we had inklings of it before, but now it's every character where all love has to be true love, and if you do anything that's not true love, you're somehow going against love itself. Right at fifteen, how dare you only date and kiss someone for two weeks?

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Speaker 1: I really liked you, Sean. We're supposed to have been together forever, he said.

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Speaker 2: It was like we dated and then we were no longer dating.

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Speaker 1: Yes, oh exactly. We had some sort of relationship in it.

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Speaker 2: And then it's.

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Speaker 3: It's this uneasy like relationship between On one hand, these girls are supposed to be psychopaths, right, Like that's kind of the point of the story, but then they also end up having a good point that everybody like takes and it's like, well, can we talk about the psychopathic behavior? Like It's like, you can't have both, you know what I mean. It's like, yeah, either this is a story about three crazy ex'es doing something crazy, or it's a story about Sean needing this good lesson that he learned from his three psychopathic ays.

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Speaker 2: Like it's just hard, which really you ended up learning from Corey into Panga because Corey makes the point that if you've if you've been together with somebody long enough, at some point you're going to disappoint them, which is why you don't have to be perfect to be in a relationship, but you have to be able to forgive because we're all going to at some point disappoint another person, even if we try our hardest to be the best possible us we can be, someone will eventually feel disappointed by something you do, and then in order to make it work, you have to be able to forgive and move on. So you really ultimately ended up learning that from Corey into Penga.

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Speaker 1: But but did you the.

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Speaker 2: Only person I think has any leg to stand on with a pov in this is Dana Pruet Larissa Olainek, because you guys actually established kind of a real girlfriend boyfriend relationship, right and you promise and then it just fizzled out and disappeared and we don't know what happened with that. The other girl you made out with once at a party where already attacked you and set you up for that, and the other one having that out broken up with you and didn't want to be with you because of Corey.

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Speaker 3: It's like, so, but she's actually the only one that is justified in being this psychopathic And I think that is a funny plot idea. But yes, the idea to make all three girls sort of in cahoots for this storyline is a little weird and like it doesn't make it just needed more time. It needed like an another rewrite, and I don't know like something first of all, that they're how.

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Speaker 5: From a writing standpoint, you come off the episode we just had and Corey and Topanga and what they're going through are not the A story is ridiculous. That's the story you want to see. So if the B story is then this one crazy girl. Christianna Logan's character hijacks you and maybe some of the ex girlfriends get together to help rescue you because hey, Sean and Sean, he did a bad thing. And then they well, wait a minute, you're right, Sean, you did that to me too, So it's not the three of them kidnapped you.

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Speaker 1: One of them did.

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Speaker 5: And then it leads to an interesting conversation, but that should be a B story next to what we want to see, which is Tapanga has the damn letter.

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Speaker 1: That's where I mean.

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Speaker 5: And then they open with that, so I was like, okay, great, we're really going to get into this and this, and then it was like, oh, that just kind of pushed to the side. And then Tipanga comes in as a special guest at the end to say, I don't it was weird.

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Speaker 3: It was weird.

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Speaker 1: It was a weird story.

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Speaker 5: But hey, it did end with Sean and Jack dating high school girls, So all right, girl, so there.

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Speaker 1: You go, there you go.

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Speaker 6: At least we have that, at least we have that redeeming quality quality going of them dating girls in high school.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: Guest starring Christianna Logan.

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Speaker 2: Is back as Jennifer Bassett, her second appearance, both a child star and a terminator, and then we have Larissa Olenex. She returns as Dana Pruett. Larissa, a childhood friend of writers, as you all know, is the coolest and I loved her in this episode. I thought she was so great, especially the ending, that little joke at the end where she says she isn't having friends great and she gets shot down by Christana Logan.

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Speaker 1: Again, they were all good. It was just weird.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Larissa was hung out to dry. I feel like and apprude. It's just like, who are you? What are you know? I mean like Laris is a great actress, but I feel like she was uncomfortable. She's like, what am I doing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I can totally see how she could be uncomfortable here and uncomfortable with the storyline. But I did think she was good with what I mean, you know, having to accept this whole premise.

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Speaker 4: She was great and I loved that.

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Speaker 2: I loved her little joke at the end where she seemed like she had just been bitten, had her head bitten off by a terminator, which she did. And then Lindsey McKee in his back as Libby Harper. But please don't ask her anything about boy meets World. It will not end well.

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Speaker 7: But if you like Stevie Nicks, then she she's your gal.

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Speaker 4: Then ask her about boy mets World.

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Speaker 2: Now, writer, dude, what do you remember specifically about the three of them coming back?

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Speaker 3: Not much, honestly, do you remember.

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Speaker 4: Any conversation with Larissa about this being awkward or weird?

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Speaker 3: No, you know, if anything, I you know, I got along with all of them, and so I I didn't remember the details of this episode at all, Like I remember thinking probably even at the time that it was it was strange, you know, And so no, if anything, I have positive memories of all three of them, So it was probably just fun to hang out with them. But watching it back, I was like, what is going on? And like I feel a little lost, like I, you know, and I guess I kind of can be Sean's just kind of reacting to what's happening around him for so much of this episode, but also like I kind of missed, like there was this moment when when I got handcuffed to the thing where I was like wanted it to be like the Witch episode, where like maybe Sean's like, whoo cool, let's have a part, you know, Like I was like where's that Sean, you know, like why am I so serious suddenly? And like I don't know it?

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Speaker 1: Just yeah, what year was this? Was this ninety eight?

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Speaker 3: Ninety eight?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so First Wives Club was really big and that was ninety six. First Wives Club was the Goldie Hawn movie about the all the three first wives getting revenge on their ex husband's gotcha moved on with second one?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so this is yes, that would be my guest.

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Speaker 1: But it's like a year and a half later, so right, right.

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Speaker 2: Well it's only February of ninety eight, so this would have been a shooting at the end of ninety seven.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so like a year a year lady all right with development and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: That and all those boy bees world fans who loved First Wives Club.

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Speaker 1: To go to the First Wives Club.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well if you were if you were fifteen, Goldie.

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Speaker 4: Was even a better favorite.

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Speaker 1: Diane Keaton.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if you're a fourteen year old girl, you're like, I'm a Diane Keaton fan.

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Speaker 2: So jumping into our recap, we are in John Adams High The school is decked out in Valentine's Day decor.

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Speaker 4: We have got quite a budget for school holidays.

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Speaker 2: Angela and Topanga walk out of Phoene's class together and Angela asks, what's with you? Phoenie asked twenty questions and you only answered twelve to Pega pulls out the letter that fell out of Corey's bag at the ski lodge. She thinks it's from Lauren. Angela's in shock Talk all night, Lauren, that girl should have a radio show.

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Speaker 4: What more could she have to say?

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Speaker 2: And this is right off the bat where I was like, I love this Angela.

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Speaker 1: She's a person.

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Speaker 4: She's a person, she's funny.

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Speaker 2: She Panga.

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Speaker 3: The actual dialogue is written different. It's differently, you know, like it's written for her voice, and it's like, oh, okay, this is a character now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really good. Topanga hasn't read it.

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Speaker 2: Angela snatches it from her and doesn't believe her, but it's true. Topanga didn't read it. She thought it wouldn't be right. Angela wonders, and stealing your boyfriend is? Topanga reminds her all they did was talk and I am continuing this season to be very impressed with Topanga's level headedness.

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Speaker 4: Like all this in In.

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Speaker 2: Response to this teenage Danielle would have ripped that letter open immediately, yeah, up out of the fake snow and finger in let her out, would have read it.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I ever would have.

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Speaker 2: I would have been like, what is this girly riding on the front. So the fact that Topanga continues, at least in this season, we've certainly seen her have her moments of irrational behavior, But in this season so far, I feel like she's so adult, so an adult in a relationship, and I'm impressed.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, and it's very common.

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Speaker 2: I will I will say that I don't know how realistic it is, but it's impressive. Angela is an utter disbelief. She calls Topanga the saint of the deep deep denial to Panga insists it's trust. Angela takes matters into her own hands and rips open the envelope, pretending it was an accident. Tapanga tries to stop her. She doesn't want anything to change her relationship with Corey. Angela is too focused on reading the letter to care. Tapanga tells her she wants to burn it, and Angela admits, you don't have to burn it. This thing's already smoking. To Panga is now jumping for the letter, desperately trying to reach it, and I thought, of you will when we were talking about me doing more physical comedy. Yeah, like a couple episodes later, they were like, let's have Danielle jump.

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Speaker 1: Around and because you're good at it, so yeah, right to it.

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Speaker 2: Angela successfully avoids her attempts. I'm trying to protect you, you short little white girl, which got a real laugh for me. Very cute to Panga size. You're right, I don't want to read that letter. But right when Angela puts her guard down to Pega snatches the letter. And this is where I noticed the school's vending machine, which appears to be from nineteen seventy three.

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Speaker 1: Just zag nuts and bottle caps.

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Speaker 2: Just the oldest vending machine. It's like maybe the first vending machine that's ever.

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Speaker 1: It was, and they still actually use cocaine.

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Speaker 7: It looks like it has cigarettes in it, exactly.

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Speaker 1: I just want some pall malls and some zag nuts.

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Speaker 3: Great as what.

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Speaker 5: Is zagnat zag nutt is a it's a candy bar from like the seventies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that nut?

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Speaker 1: Also, why open the letter like a raccoon? Like, why not at least make it to her. If you want to seal it up again, you can.

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Speaker 3: It was like no going back at the top, and then.

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Speaker 1: No going back after that.

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Speaker 3: It's like shredded into She's done it.

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Speaker 2: Oh man y Tavenga sits down on the couch to read. She's only a few seconds in when she met hers. Oh no, right then Sewn and Corey come waltzing through the hall. Sean says he always feels depressed around Valentine's Day, but Corey doesn't understand.

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Speaker 4: He has a girlfriend. Now it'll be fun.

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Speaker 2: Sewan explains, this isn't like Christmas, where he has the whole month to remember. It sneaks up on him out of nowhere. Last year, the mail man just gave him a Valentine. Corey asks who it was from, and Sean says it was from the mailman, and of course he didn't get him anything in return, and he can't even tell him it's in the mail.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 1: It's so good, just so.

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Speaker 3: Fun, I love Sean. Yeah, yeah, it's so much responsibility.

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Speaker 2: Sean admits it's the first Valentine's Day that ever that has ever meant anything to him, and he's afraid he's going to screw it up.

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Speaker 4: Corey says he'll help him.

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Speaker 2: Here comes Corey with the theme we've seen before, bad advice on how to treat your lady for your long term relationship. He's a Valentine's Day veteran. He even marches in the parade. Sean asks him what he and to Panga were doing the perfect romantic evening. Corey proudly nods, yes, we have dinner at Chubby's every Valentine's Day. Me and to Panga try to recreate our first date so we remember how much we love each other.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what we just did this episode, we know four episodes ago. I can't understand.

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Speaker 2: So Sean wouldn't know that they do that every year. If that's what they had done, and our first date was now with Chubbys.

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Speaker 5: When you were three or however hell old you were at this point, at least we have some continuity with your own story.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 1: It's like, my god, do you think is there a part of the right?

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Speaker 5: This is how I go And I'm hoping because if it's true, it's a beautifully crafted joke, which is that it's the joke is that it changes every time.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think that's what it is.

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Speaker 3: No, because they did that joke, you know, when he's like, this is a she when Tepeg was like, I don't even remember what this is the anniversary of. Right, it's the universary the first time we went to that restaurant or whatever. Right, it would be funny if, yes, in this episode, if Tepeg had been like, I don't even know which which first date were celebrated, that's all I would have taken. And then he's like, this is the first Valentine's Day there, and he has a whole set of rituals that are complicated and full of expectations that would be hysterical. But they didn't lean into that joke. They didn't do anything.

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Speaker 1: So they just say this as if this is.

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Speaker 3: The given, and I'm like, I'm so confused. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Sean compares it to renewing their vows. Corey agrees, which is especially important to do in your teen years.

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Speaker 4: So at least they may.

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Speaker 1: Joe right, right, you're an old married people.

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Speaker 2: I was so happy to see them at least acknowledge that these storylines lay better if you are an adult marriage.

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Speaker 5: Exactly right, write it just write two fifty year olds in a marriage and make them high school students.

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Speaker 1: That's funny. But then stick with that.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I know it's Yeah, it's weird. They begin to walk and talk. If you want a perfect relationship, just do what Topanga and I do. On cue, Topanga cross checks him into a locker. Good, I want to Yeah, I want to talk to you. And then there's a lot of very fun background after reactions here, including our Scream episode.

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Speaker 4: Sean, who is.

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Speaker 5: Very well feature bracketed in feature during this episode, you saw him several times.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Sean remembers Corey said to follow his lead, and he then slams Angela against the lockers. I want to talk to you.

00:23:53
Speaker 3: Okay, So I thought this happened in the Starry Night episode, Oh because because I remember me slamming Trina up against a wall being like a tricky thing because she was pregnant.

00:24:05
Speaker 1: She's pregnant, right, But I.

00:24:06
Speaker 3: Did it in this episode too.

00:24:08
Speaker 2: You know how many times do you possibly slam this pregnant woman against a wall?

00:24:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's a it's a choice. No, it's written to the script like that's the thing. But I remember it being like a oh, like he was during the Starry Night episode. It's like the tag is like me throwing her up against a wall in the museum or whatever. And I remember the whole crew being.

00:24:27
Speaker 1: Like, oh my god.

00:24:28
Speaker 3: And Trina was fine, but like she and I were like, is this okay? It was like a constant and then we had already done it here.

00:24:35
Speaker 5: It's a It's a decent sized slam too. I mean it's I mean it.

00:24:38
Speaker 2: Makes a lot of noise because so it just requires a tiny bit of impact for.

00:24:46
Speaker 1: Her hands a little more, but still, I.

00:24:49
Speaker 2: Mean your I will say that what you do to Angela is soft compared to the full body check I give Corey, yeah, like, yeah.

00:24:59
Speaker 1: You put your shoulder.

00:25:00
Speaker 2: I was laid. Oh yeah, yeah for sure, yeah, efinitely.

00:25:05
Speaker 5: Yep.

00:25:06
Speaker 1: We're in the eye formation and Corey's up against the locker.

00:25:09
Speaker 2: So nearby, Topanga is holding the letter from Lauren. How long was he going to wait to tell her about it? Corey stutters, uh, and now I was going to tell you about it now to Panga, serious, I have never had to wonder if you were telling me the truth. You kissed her, and you lied to me about it. I don't know how We're going to work that out, Corey. She gives the letter to Corey and walks away with Angela. Corey begins to read the letter and mutters oh no, with sad music, taking us into a tense commercial break. And I was very in that moment. I was very much reminded of the the time we first met Libby Harper where Corey is kissed by Missy Robinson.

00:25:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I because I.

00:25:48
Speaker 2: Of course, was like, well you have he has cheated on you before, so I was trying to find a flaw with the logic there. But really in that episode, he did exactly what he should have done in this episode told me he had the opportunity in the Missy Robinson episode which Penga runs into him and Chubby's and he's getting her the ice cream, he has the opportunity where Tapega would never have known it happened, and he makes the choice to tell her, and then I say something like okay, well thanks for telling me the truth, and then I soorcel him with a kiss to get him sick.

00:26:22
Speaker 4: But like that is then I kind of think about what.

00:26:24
Speaker 2: I said in the last episode where I was like, I think if he told her the truth that he had kissed her to Penga would have broken up with them. And I think the only difference between when we saw this with the Missy Robinson episode and we saw it here is that, well, for one thing, he lied, and the other thing that Topanga wouldn't have necessarily known, although she could infer it from the fact that he lied, was that the Missy Robinson he was not emotionally connected to her. He felt trapped and she wanted to make out, and he was like thirteen. They were thirteen, but they were in a committed relationship, and the boy was world, you were married. They were in a very committed relationship. He had asked permission to go to the party. She was sick at home. He felt bad, he knew he shouldn't really go. He went anyway. The only real difference two things. He lied in this one, and he lied because he was emotionally invested in Lauren and he was not in the first one.

00:27:21
Speaker 3: It doesn't it seem like being in a relationship, by the logic of Boyby's world, means being miserable, Like yes, is there any joy in like do Qureyan Tapanga or even Sean and Angela ever have just joy together that we see. I mean, I know it's hard because the point of story is that it's contact, but it does seem like the cumulative effect of all these episodes is that you get into a relationship because it makes you morally superior, and you stick to it despite all the whole joy. If you were not in this relationship, you could be so much sex and making out with so many people if you just gave in and stop trying to. But it's a bet you're a better person to stick with love no matter what. And that's just like it's intense, and it's like I just I just I feel this, Like why why is Sean so tortured? Why is Core and why is everybody so tortured? Just don't be in a relationship.

00:28:17
Speaker 1: But that's the thing is there doesn't in this world.

00:28:20
Speaker 5: There's no differentiation between love and a relationship. There's plenty of people madly in love that should not be together. Right It just Hey, I love you, This is toxic. It doesn't work. So I think here they it's like, well, we're in love, so we're going to suffer together. However makes us work? And that's just obviously not the way it goes. I have another question from from a legal standpoint, okay, okay, calling yes. So in the in the Boy Meets World World and the relationship they're in, how much of Corey lying to Topanga is mitigated by the fact that it was Sean's idea to do it and talked him into doing it.

00:29:03
Speaker 3: MM is responsibility exactly, horrible advice all the time, of course, but.

00:29:11
Speaker 5: In the real world, of course, in The Boy Meets World World, how much of Sean.

00:29:16
Speaker 1: Told me to do it I wanted to tell you the truth right away?

00:29:18
Speaker 5: And how much of that mitigates Corey's responsibility.

00:29:23
Speaker 2: Don't I don't think it any in this I don't think he would share it. You know. It was Sean's idea, and I should never have gone with it.

00:29:30
Speaker 4: I think that's like, but no, I would.

00:29:33
Speaker 3: Have opened up a whole can of worms. WHI Chipanga would turn on Sean, you know, and instead but.

00:29:37
Speaker 5: She but Sean tells openly Angela, Oh, it was the best I could come up with at the time.

00:29:42
Speaker 1: And she's like, would you lie to me?

00:29:43
Speaker 5: And You're like no, and she's like, you answered that fast, then walks away and it's never addressed again. Right, and it was kind of like, that's weird not to bring that up again. It's like the start of kind of an important conversation in your relationship. Yeah, so yeah, that was kind of I was just curious, how as I agree it's it's completely on Corey, but in the Boy meets World world they're an entity, and one of them said, don't do this, don't do this, don't do now.

00:30:07
Speaker 3: If we're going to talk legally, legally, uh, these three girls need to be charged with if we're talking about a legal response, Yes, this is crazy. Lord a guy to a boat house and tied him or handcuffed him, that.

00:30:25
Speaker 4: They impersonated another person.

00:30:30
Speaker 3: No responsibility at this point, you just say, get call the police, arrest these three girls, and Sean go, dude, like, this is a problem and the parents need to be notified because this is like many many that happen. Even if Sewan decides not to bring charges, like, they need to know the severity of the Yeah, this is this is not reflecting love, just breaking and entering.

00:30:54
Speaker 1: Guessing none of them owned the boathouse to be there any places.

00:30:58
Speaker 2: Just have a boat house that everyone knows where it is.

00:31:02
Speaker 5: In all fairs, it was just the wilderness store with the stuff tipped on the side. It's just the empty wilderness.

00:31:12
Speaker 3: It was.

00:31:14
Speaker 2: So then we're in John Adams High continuing. Corey is slumped on the floor in the hallway while Sean reads the letter. How could you let to Penga read this? Cory sarcastically says he let her read it on the bus ride home because he was bored and wanted to destroy the relationship. But actually he thought he lost it. Sean reminds him, Hey, don't jump on me. I'm not the one who kissed you, Corey bark's back. No, but you are the one who told me to lie about the kiss in the first place.

00:31:36
Speaker 4: Sean says it was the best he could think of at that time.

00:31:38
Speaker 2: I don't see where lying is the issue, and tell the gym coach I have malaria, Corey. Here's a group of girls, all former flings of Sean from past seasons, talking about the letter. I heard Corey Matthews met some mountain girl on the senior ski trip and to Pega found out. Corey stops dead iness tracks and addresses Jennifer Akaa the very tall Christana Logan.

00:31:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I hear you're really a guy. She hovers over it.

00:32:00
Speaker 2: And asks in a deep voice, So, which was funny?

00:32:04
Speaker 1: Another ahead of its time joke?

00:32:06
Speaker 4: Yeap it is? He scurries away.

00:32:08
Speaker 2: That's what I thought. We stay with the past girlfriends, and Libby says, Corey into Panga our history. I told you that wasn't going to work out. Dana adds, you said that twelve years ago. And here comes Angela down the hall. Dana decides to ask her why did Corey lie about the kiss and the letter? Angela is shocked. How do you possibly know about this? The girl reveals the school newspaper. The front page reads Corey into Panga split with a cute little picture of us two.

00:32:32
Speaker 4: Jennifer breaks in.

00:32:34
Speaker 1: Is this supposed to be later than when they just had the fight and she found the letter? I mean, I'm just curious, aready?

00:32:42
Speaker 4: I think it's a little late. Okay, next period they went broke exactly?

00:32:49
Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha, gotcha.

00:32:51
Speaker 2: Jennifer breaks the news. All men are dogs. Angela is offended. Not all men, what she's a Not all men? Come on, it's nice, it's nice. It feels like that feels more like Corey, not Azela. But so Libby laughs, Oh, come on, you got Kujo. Angela insists that Sean's not a dog, he's a nice guy. Dana Pipe's in Yeah, I thought so too. He made a picnic for me in the snow and told me how special I was. We even made plans for this Valentine's Day. Wait a minute from season three? Season three, or are we supposed to infer that there were dates we didn't see leading up to you getting into the relationship with Angela?

00:33:37
Speaker 1: I think so, Well, for years, So you've been with Dana for two years.

00:33:41
Speaker 4: Off and on, off and on while he was having his two week rule.

00:33:44
Speaker 2: Maybe Dana got another two weeks, because otherwise it makes no sense that it's a.

00:33:50
Speaker 1: Lot of this, a lot of that. The timing in this episode was a little suspect.

00:33:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to say there were occasional dates with all three of these women in the time, eating up to Angela, because probably.

00:34:02
Speaker 5: Not Christiana Logan. I think they set that up where she's still Yeah.

00:34:05
Speaker 3: But it's all a sign of the fact that, like, you know, the the tail not shown problem, which is that we were always told that Sean is like the ladies man date, but we've actually only seen him date, really date three characters, and one of them is Libby, who what like, but that's the thing we didn't have, Like the Jennifer is really the only Jennifer and Larissa really had, you know, arcs or moments on the show. But but but we're implying that, yes, Sehn is Kujo, he's a dog, and it's like, but we actually haven't seen that. And he's pretty straightforward. But he just wants to make out with a lot of girls, and he's honest with all of them, so like, yeah, they all knew.

00:34:47
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like they go in and going it's the two week rule. I mean, there was a name for it. So yeah, he's not lying to them.

00:34:54
Speaker 5: I mean, and it's probably not the best behavior in the world, but he's not certainly not lying to them about it.

00:35:00
Speaker 2: No, And I don't know why it had to be that you made plans with all three of these women for this Valentine's Day as opposed to just the Valentine's Day when you were dating. Oh yeah, he told me the same thing about Valentine's Day. Are Valentine's Day?

00:35:14
Speaker 4: He did this?

00:35:15
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well my Valentine's Day, like Why does it have to be for this one?

00:35:19
Speaker 1: Just yeah, that's what it should have been about.

00:35:21
Speaker 5: Is Valentine's Day represents a real relationship to Sean, and it's when he bails. Yeah, and so you know, the fact that he really wants to go through it with Angela shows how committed he is to her.

00:35:31
Speaker 3: It's super easy to do.

00:35:32
Speaker 1: I don't know they made it all for.

00:35:34
Speaker 2: This Valentine's Day. I don't know.

00:35:36
Speaker 4: Libby joins in, he made plans with you this Valentine's Day. He made plans with.

00:35:40
Speaker 2: Me and he said I was his girlfriend, which lasted about a week. Jennifer puts the cherry on top. Oh, I got two weeks, but he gave me a cold. They ask Angela. Sean told her the same things. Angela shrugs them off. We're going to dinner in a movie, nothing fancy, no big deal. They tell her he's going to back out. Oh, of course twice. The van damage knows how important the day is and it's just too much for him. He doesn't know how to be a boyfriend. Jennifer thinks he should pay then to Pang. The storms down the hallway, followed closely by two students with notepads and a camera.

00:36:10
Speaker 4: I said, no comment, you little Jimmy Olsen freak. She grabs the camera.

00:36:14
Speaker 3: Remember that the female extra? Who's who's the reporter chasing me down?

00:36:19
Speaker 1: She was in I forget all the time. She used to always tell me.

00:36:23
Speaker 5: She's like, people mistake me for your girlfriend because everyone thought she looked like love love right, totally, Yes, she would know. She was very sweet. She was so soft all the time.

00:36:30
Speaker 3: I can't remember her name. Yeah, the second I saw her face, I was like, oh, it filled me with such warmth. I was like, I remember her. She track her down.

00:36:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good idea. No pictures. The ex girlfriends feel bad for her. Dana mentions that whenever she's ready, her brother's face is really clearing up.

00:36:46
Speaker 5: Danielle, did you when you shot the scene this would be a this would be a hard but long pull memory.

00:36:51
Speaker 1: But did you know who Jimmy Olsen was?

00:36:53
Speaker 2: As you were saying, I don't know who Jimmy Olsen is?

00:36:56
Speaker 3: Now, wow, do you really not know? Jimmy Olsen is?

00:36:58
Speaker 2: Not a clue.

00:36:59
Speaker 5: Jimmy Olsen is the photographer and reporter that is Clark Kent's right hand man.

00:37:03
Speaker 3: Superman Oh no, I did not know this is a cub reporter.

00:37:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I didn't know it then. I don't know it now, well you.

00:37:13
Speaker 1: Do know it now.

00:37:15
Speaker 3: Superman is a hero, is a superhero? Another planet is.

00:37:19
Speaker 4: A technical and what is like will.

00:37:23
Speaker 5: Because he does well Clark pretend to be a human, Yes, exactly what what what's his his super what's his his Kryptonian name?

00:37:32
Speaker 3: Writer?

00:37:35
Speaker 1: Kel El daniel whoa you are also from crypton? Your dan Danielle Danel? Yeah you got Kelda.

00:37:46
Speaker 3: That's the father. Okay, Yeah, what's justice for Jimmy?

00:37:49
Speaker 1: Oh god?

00:37:50
Speaker 5: Who is his mom?

00:37:51
Speaker 3: Oh?

00:37:51
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna people kill me?

00:37:53
Speaker 3: I don't remember I'm Superman too, and they had to like adjust it. So it's his mom giving him all the advice to remember. Remember it was like, yeah, I'll do the movie and if you give me another two million dollars zero.

00:38:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, how do you know? You know kal l but you don't know Jimmy Olsen. That's something strange. Okay.

00:38:15
Speaker 2: Angela calls the girls vultures and Topanga tells them what's going on between me and Corey?

00:38:19
Speaker 4: Is going on between me and Corey? Okay?

00:38:21
Speaker 2: The student with the notepad vigorously writes this down to Banga Yel's that's not a quote, Ira. She walks off, and the two journalists continue to follow her worth noting. Ira is played by Buzz McIntyre, an uncredited background actor who has very little credits but was a background voice in two thousand and eight's Metal Gear Solid four.

00:38:40
Speaker 3: Really what yes is some deep cuts?

00:38:43
Speaker 2: Yeah?

00:38:44
Speaker 3: Jensen research and love.

00:38:46
Speaker 4: Jensen loves nothing more than to stay up till two in the.

00:38:48
Speaker 6: Morning and research stuff background actors.

00:38:51
Speaker 3: I might have.

00:38:53
Speaker 1: Been in that.

00:38:55
Speaker 3: Wow, I think I did.

00:38:56
Speaker 5: A Metal Gear I can I don't know, I think I did anyway.

00:39:01
Speaker 2: Angela tells the group of girls that she appreciates their concern, but she knows Sean better than all of them, and she trusts him. She walks off, and Jennifer mutters under her breath she thinks she knows him. Huh. Nearby, Angela walks up to Sean, who is making a coffee like they're in an insurance office. He admits he can't believe what's going on between Corey and Tapanga. Angela agrees, whose idea was it to lie to her?

00:39:23
Speaker 3: I literally said, like just a couple weeks ago. We need vending machines and a coffee machine in that Eric, how they put a bunch of stuff. Now you've got things to do. Get coffee in your lucky stripes, because you know that they must have felt the same thing.

00:39:39
Speaker 4: We have something.

00:39:40
Speaker 3: Why are we all just hanging out of this couch in this hallway right.

00:39:43
Speaker 2: At this dead end? So Sean reveals, well, it was the best idea I could think of at the time. Angela's rightfully taken aback and Sean insists he was only trying to protect Corey. She asks if Sean would ever lie to her, and he immediately says no. She's suspicious he said that a little fast. Shawna sures her he would never lie to her. Angela asks if they're still on for tonight. Sean enthusiastically responds, yeah. In fact, I'm going to take you someplace nice and I'm going to surprise you with candy and flowers. She explains she doesn't care about the candy and flowers as much as just them being together. Sean leans in and they give each other a passionate kiss. The ex girlfriends watch that all go down. She's buying it. Dana wishes there was a way to show Angela what Shawn's really like before she gets hurt. Jennifer has an idea. I think Sean Hunter is finally going to keep a date for Valentine's.

00:40:40
Speaker 5: If we tie them to the train tracks before the locomotive comes.

00:40:47
Speaker 3: Exactly.

00:40:49
Speaker 2: And then we're in the guy's apartment. Jack's complaining about Valentine's Day to Eric. It's a big scam greeting card company's candy stores. They're all ripping off the innocent customer. Eric asks, no dat, huh. Jack whimpers, I'm so only. Eric encourages him. You rejoice in your solitude and kiss it on the lips. Jack doesn't understand. Eric continues having a date on Valentine's Day is like having an IOU for the rest of your life. Jack agrees, women take this day too seriously. Eric adds, today is the one day women turn their men into love puppets. Just then, Sean walks out of his room with a big smile on his face, holding a heart box of chocolates. Jack sneers, got a hot date there, Pinocchio. Sean gives a nerve a shrug, I got her candy. Eric disapproves, give her instead. She'll appreciate the cash and maybe she'll buy you something nice. He breaks open the box and eats a chocolate.

00:41:36
Speaker 4: Is this new good?

00:41:39
Speaker 3: That's good?

00:41:40
Speaker 1: Back the.

00:41:42
Speaker 5: Eat some business, do some business as.

00:41:47
Speaker 1: Time, any kind of zesty drink tap the not doing.

00:41:53
Speaker 3: It's horrible, so good.

00:41:56
Speaker 2: But Jack is impressed. So my little brother likes somebody enough to go on a Valentine's Day date. Huh, Sean admits, usually I find a reason not to show up, but I think I'm going to make it to this one. Just then there's a knock at the door. Eric Yell's love. We got love, And I was like, is he looking for love? Hughe?

00:42:12
Speaker 5: Who?

00:42:12
Speaker 1: I'm clear again? Now the necklace is on full display.

00:42:16
Speaker 4: What are you carrying a vial of her blood?

00:42:17
Speaker 1: Or oh no, it's even worse. It's it looks like a little coke spoon.

00:42:21
Speaker 4: Oh oh right, she wore.

00:42:23
Speaker 5: One and I wore one, And so it was like, oh, okay, I'm fully and my hair is going out.

00:42:27
Speaker 4: There, my hair, your hair's going very long quickly.

00:42:31
Speaker 3: It was like we took a break in between shooting.

00:42:33
Speaker 1: Because you weren't in the last week.

00:42:35
Speaker 4: In that week, your hair yeah, your hair grew three inches that week?

00:42:39
Speaker 3: Neutraful. Yeah.

00:42:41
Speaker 2: When Love comes on in the screen episode, do we also see Love's spoon?

00:42:45
Speaker 1: I'm guessing, I mean, I get.

00:42:47
Speaker 3: I'm probably Yeah. Do your spoons make out with each other?

00:42:51
Speaker 1: Yes?

00:42:51
Speaker 5: They would connect magnetically, Yes, incorrigibility.

00:43:06
Speaker 3: It worked well.

00:43:09
Speaker 2: Jack asks Sean does she feel the same way about you? But before he can answer, they see that no one is at the door. Sean looks down and sees a bouquet of flowers. Jack answers his own question, Yeah, I guess she does. Sean reads the note attached, I can't stop thinking about you. Here's to our night of romance. Meet me at the boathouse, Love Angela.

00:43:32
Speaker 5: That's a youthful mism for a vanouse.

00:43:38
Speaker 2: He turns to the boys, excuse me, but I have a date that I want to keep, And as he.

00:43:43
Speaker 3: Leaves, don't you think Sean should be slightly responsible?

00:43:48
Speaker 1: Like he's such an innocent victim.

00:43:50
Speaker 3: He gets a love rendezvous note and goes and then still learns a lesson like he is literally like a completely innocent victim of like, oh doing this plot by three x's And yet at the end of the episode, he's learning something and like having this revelation. I know, I feel like it should be a little bit like, you know, this note is from somebody else, or like just just a hint of like Sean saying, I'll meet Angela later, but I need to go do this other thing, or maybe he's tempted in some way, because as it is, Sean's completely innocent, Like there's no reason Sean should feel bad about anything. Nope, at this point now, like the whole epit and yet I have this big like breakdown by the end where I'm like, you know, passionately telling Angela what I want and how I'm going to change, And it's like, but but Sean, you're doing everything right, Like.

00:44:40
Speaker 1: I don't know you also did change.

00:44:42
Speaker 2: We've done this already, you say throughout the episode in the boat House, I wasn't lying to you at the time. I did feel for you, Dana Pruitt. I liked you.

00:44:53
Speaker 8: You are a little scary, but you all say'd be one thing if you were like you At the end, I kissed you like I loved you to Libby Harper, which did you though?

00:45:06
Speaker 3: I mean, at this part, what.

00:45:09
Speaker 2: If that were the case that you said these women are never going to let me make out with them unless I lie and say I'm gonna lie to get what I want. If that had been the case, then I could totally see even though their psycho and a kidnapping plot, you saying you're right, I lied to you. I have been a sham my entire life, and I promise Angela, I'm not doing that now.

00:45:39
Speaker 4: I'm different, but you're different.

00:45:42
Speaker 5: They even have Dana say, you said to me you you really loved me, but you didn't love me that way. So they had a conversation where he broke up with her and said, look, I just don't feel it.

00:45:53
Speaker 2: I like you, but I don't love you like you.

00:45:56
Speaker 1: I mean, my god.

00:45:57
Speaker 5: It's like he literally talks to her about howationship isn't going anywhere. So, yeah, I don't see how they they made Sean a dog at all. They made him somebody who likes girls, who makes out with a lot of women. Okay, sure, but if he's honest with all of them about it.

00:46:10
Speaker 3: Then what the hell is the problem?

00:46:11
Speaker 6: Yeah?

00:46:11
Speaker 3: Exactly, And they're forcing a situation for him to hurt Angela to then learn from her, and it's like, hold on, I didn't hurt Angela like I'm in a situation, so it's it's yeah, it's like they're trying to have their cake and eat it too. As far as Shawn's character, and it's very common make Shawn a dog like, just make him, make him almost cheat on her or lie to her in this moment, and then there's some responsibility there.

00:46:35
Speaker 5: But he could have lied to Angela right off the bat about something, even something as small as why why would he lied to to Panga?

00:46:42
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know that idea.

00:46:45
Speaker 1: Something like that. That would have been easy.

00:46:47
Speaker 3: And then it's like she finds out no sho and then she goes to Corey, and Corey says, Shan's the one who told me to not tell her about the kiss. And then she could be like, Sean did lie to me, that's weird, and then yes, super easer.

00:46:57
Speaker 1: But no, he was instantly like, yeah, I'm not one to told him to do.

00:47:00
Speaker 3: I mean, he's been honest with everybody.

00:47:03
Speaker 2: So as Sean leaves, Jack asks next Valentine's Day, Eric nods dates. Definitely dates, and then we're at the boat house new set alert or perhaps it's the wilderness.

00:47:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love too.

00:47:28
Speaker 5: How they have to do things to make it seem like It's like, A why does the boat house need a dartboard? And B why is the dart board seventeen feet off the ground and there's a.

00:47:37
Speaker 1: Dark board up by the ceiling, Like what? Why? Who's doing this? It was very strangely decorated this place.

00:47:43
Speaker 2: It's it's a giant's boathouse.

00:47:47
Speaker 3: Who comes to you?

00:47:48
Speaker 1: My god?

00:47:49
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:47:50
Speaker 2: So then Sean bursts through the door, Angela, you're Valentine's here. There's no response, so he hangs his coat and looks around. Women can't be on time for their own romantic rondevoue. Women probably doing her makeup.

00:48:04
Speaker 1: I'm at the boathouse zone time.

00:48:07
Speaker 4: But Jennifer appears.

00:48:10
Speaker 2: Men don't know a trap set by their ex girlfriends when they walk right and do it.

00:48:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would Why that.

00:48:18
Speaker 1: Wasn't on This was not on my bingo guard. You're right, this took me by surprise.

00:48:24
Speaker 2: Yes, Seawan is shocked. Jennifer, What are you doing here? She smiles, Just keeping our dates for Valentine's Day? Remember? Then Dana pops up and proceeds to handcuff Shan to a poll Shawn's impressed. Wow, your tastes have changed since our last date when we went skating, which.

00:48:43
Speaker 3: Can I wish we'd done a little bit more of this this is Sean had been like, what do we doing?

00:48:47
Speaker 6: Game?

00:48:49
Speaker 3: That actually makes more sense for this character?

00:48:52
Speaker 4: Yes, totally.

00:48:53
Speaker 2: Dana admits a lot of things have changed, but not you, even though Angela thinks you have. Finally, Libby reveals herself with some duct tape. Maybe how you doing? What's the tape for? I wonder? She explains, this is the one time you're sweet talking isn't going to get you out of anything. They're not going to let him hurt Angela. Sean asks, why would I hurt Angela?

00:49:12
Speaker 4: I love her.

00:49:13
Speaker 2: You guys are hurting Angela by not.

00:49:16
Speaker 4: Letting me go.

00:49:18
Speaker 2: Why are you doing this?

00:49:21
Speaker 3: And what is the plan? Exactly?

00:49:24
Speaker 2: This is exactly. This is where first of all, it gets very serious. And what happens if no one shows up?

00:49:32
Speaker 3: I don't know. Were they just going to leave Sean here all night? And then like you, well, it's this trial, right, that's what we're putting you on trial for.

00:49:39
Speaker 1: Your relationship is guilty, right?

00:49:43
Speaker 4: If you learn your lesson what happens you have to break up with Angela.

00:49:46
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe the whole point is you're going to realize you're a jerk and you're a liar and you don't actually care about her, and and we're going to force you to come clean and then we're gonna throw your body in the river.

00:50:00
Speaker 3: Is like, wait, what?

00:50:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, I.

00:50:03
Speaker 2: I don't really know. I don't know either. So Jennifer smirks, Oh, you'll have your time to speak. Sean Libby places some tape on his mouth, apparently apparently barely tape. It's already been.

00:50:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, there's this.

00:50:16
Speaker 5: This is easy tape to live you liquid, and it's gone TV show tape.

00:50:20
Speaker 1: This is a TV show tape.

00:50:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jennifer smirks, Oh, I heard a mine that. Now you're in our court. Let the Trial of Sean Hunter begin. Dana smiles and eats a chocolate from Angela's gift Happy Valentine's Day. Sean stands helplessly in the middle of the room. And this is basically the movie saw. So yeah, yeah, just see what happens now.

00:50:41
Speaker 5: Could it have been better if they say, let the Trial of Seawan Hunter begins begin. The front door opens and another ten girls walk in right, you know, and it's like then you cut to them giving testimony of what Sewan has done while he's taped.

00:50:56
Speaker 3: There, or if there's a there's they're recording it for Angela or inviting Angela in just for her.

00:51:02
Speaker 1: To see, because they didn't even invite Angela. Now what the hell is the point?

00:51:06
Speaker 3: They're going to have this trial for Sean to see, right, and then for Sean to learn his lesson to then be able to swee talk his way out of it, which is exactly what happens. So it's like, I don't Yeah.

00:51:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, they also don't want that many witnesses when they murder you and send your body to post, Yeah.

00:51:24
Speaker 1: It's did they leave you for Feenie.

00:51:26
Speaker 3: That's what it's going to be.

00:51:27
Speaker 2: Exactly you're going to be. And Feenie was never going to tell I think.

00:51:30
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of this could have just been easily fixed if it was like, you know, Dana and Libby were like, what are we doing next? And Jennifer is like the ringleader and she's actually a psychopath, and she's like, we're going to you know, and then they're kind of like questioning it along the way, but instead they unify them all yeah, unfairly like it's not yeah.

00:51:48
Speaker 2: So then we are back at the guy's apartment. Jack calls a girl named Melissa to wish her a happy Valentine's Day. He tells her, I know you probably don't remember me. Oh you do, And we get our first facting from and it's not bad long. It's not bad long antenna. Yeah, I missed.

00:52:05
Speaker 1: The long, I missed the nineties antenna.

00:52:07
Speaker 2: Yeah. He turns to Eric. She was the hottest girl and third grade man. He returns to Melissa and asks if she has a date tonight. After she responds, he's surprised, Oh that's sister Melissa. Now are you still hot?

00:52:20
Speaker 1: His turn was so Lawrence brothers? Yeah, yeah, are you still like? It was such such like? It was such a Laurence Brother's turn.

00:52:30
Speaker 3: He's got the face, you're still hot?

00:52:31
Speaker 1: It was Lawrence Brother.

00:52:35
Speaker 4: Jack hangs up.

00:52:36
Speaker 2: We even hear a beep and Eric tells him he gave up too easy. Matt bushes down the antenna.

00:52:42
Speaker 3: For no reason.

00:52:43
Speaker 2: Right, some real phone, it's over. Then there's a knock at the door. It's Angela. She's there to meet Sean for their Valentine's date. They're confused. Angela is too. He isn't here, is he. The guys look at each other for a nervous uh, and.

00:52:58
Speaker 5: Matt starts laughing, Oh really, yeah, Oh that's.

00:53:01
Speaker 2: Funny, And then we're back at the horror movie that's going on in the boat house. Sean is still being held captive, and Libby interrogates him. You said you were gonna call, and you never did. One night of kissing and you were out the door. Do you think that didn't mean anything to me? Sean tries to talk, but he's muffled by the duct tape. Libby rips it off of him. Oh, the girls all smile at his pain. Sean defends himself.

00:53:23
Speaker 4: It was kissing.

00:53:24
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't know it was supposed to mean anything.

00:53:28
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

00:53:28
Speaker 1: If Sean's supposed to defend himself, why tape his mouth?

00:53:32
Speaker 2: No, No, it doesn't make any sense.

00:53:34
Speaker 3: You're sure a good button. At the end of the.

00:53:35
Speaker 2: Kings, Libby suggests they move right to the penalty phase. Sean jumps in, wait, can I say something? Dana informs the other girls. We should let him talk. Sean let's out a sigh of relief. Thank you, Dana, you were always the reasonable one. Jennifer stands up and asks, what was I sewn is terrified you were the Yeah. Shawn assures them they don't need to protect Angela because he really cares about her. Dane asks, so you really didn't care about me? Sean shrugs, Yeah, I did at the time. Libby asks, and what about me? Sean's eye again, Yeah I did. Jennifer smirks, and what about me? Sean cowers yeah, And we see Eric and Jack peeking into the boathouse window. Eric whispers, look at that Sean broke his date with Angela it to be with three girls. Jack points out that he's handcuffed and Eric giggles a little devil. Jack rolls's eyes. I don't think he's enjoying it. Eric says, then that's his problem, and I love that. Now you too are the Corey and Sean, right, you know, you too are the Krey and Sean. Now that Corey and Seawann are preoccupied with lady issues, you two have taken that on and it is really rad.

00:54:42
Speaker 3: Well, it is crazy that we've moved away from the letter and the Lauren story. So it was like literally a cliffhanger episode, huge story point where god, nothing not nothing, I.

00:54:55
Speaker 2: Know, And why didn't Angela go with the guys? Why didn't Angela go with you two?

00:55:02
Speaker 3: Oh, you're right, it would have said, like he went to the boathouse to meet you, let's go.

00:55:07
Speaker 4: Let's go.

00:55:08
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:55:09
Speaker 2: Why does she then show up at Corey? What do they How do you guys lie? And why do you lie?

00:55:15
Speaker 3: There's no reason, I guess there're they're they're assuming that maybe I lied to Angela, so they're protecting me in some sort of guy code. You got the letter and the flowers, and you're like meeting Angela at the boat hat Like it was like, so, no, there.

00:55:31
Speaker 1: Is no reason that Angela wasn't there unless yeah.

00:55:36
Speaker 2: Why didn't they say you sent him flowers to meet at the boat house. He went to go meet you at the boat house. What I didn't ask, you know, Like, I don't.

00:55:44
Speaker 1: I just don't know, Angela.

00:55:45
Speaker 3: This isn't the boat house, you know what?

00:55:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, anything, you're in our apartment, you know, I don't. I'm a little confused. So then we're in the Matthew's kitchen. Morgan comes walking in with two giant boxes, of chocolate. Amy notes, that's an awful lot of chocolate for somebody who's already so sweet, one.

00:56:00
Speaker 5: Who's eight years old still in dressed like a princess and somebody dressirl is not one thing we know about her character.

00:56:08
Speaker 3: Morgan is not sweet. She was the most bitter, cynical little kid. That's the joke of her character.

00:56:17
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly exactly. And why is she not wearing like black? They should have this girl in dress Wednesday?

00:56:25
Speaker 2: Yes? Why? I mean, come on, Morgan explains. One box is from Henry and one box is from Jimmy. I haven't decided which one is my boyfriend yet. Alan whispers to Amy, ooh, we're raising a very fickle woman, because I mean, you've got two choices, pick one, honey, yes exactly.

00:56:44
Speaker 5: Or someday she's gonna end up tied up in a boat house because she has more than one day exactly crazy.

00:56:50
Speaker 2: Amy frowns, Well, at least someone got candy. Allan explains, I was going to get you a box, but I know you're watching your weight. Alan quickly realizes his mistake, and nervous, he tries to cover it up. Gee, he isn't that an interesting thing? I just said the wait thing and the uh and the uh. Eric said that maybe you'd prefer cash. He starts handing her bill after bill, pleasing Amy. So here I happen to have some cash on me. As they leave the room, we see Corey on the phone and Ben is facting on a courted home phone.

00:57:20
Speaker 1: Now he's also I'm sorry on Valentine's.

00:57:24
Speaker 2: Day night ordering ordering a dozen roses to miss the pang Lawrence.

00:57:30
Speaker 5: Please, there is not a florist in the world up to and including the national one eight hundred flowers that could fill that order, but on Valentine's dice couldn't.

00:57:40
Speaker 2: Even get those flowers to you in time.

00:57:43
Speaker 5: No.

00:57:44
Speaker 2: Also, this order is twenty thousand dollars.

00:57:47
Speaker 5: You want the same thing, it's a forty thousand dollars order that I need a half an hour on Valentine's Day.

00:57:54
Speaker 2: To the address of course known as missed a Bengo.

00:57:57
Speaker 1: Thanks Lauren, you know who I'm talking about.

00:58:00
Speaker 2: Click.

00:58:02
Speaker 1: I was like, what the I was literally at this point looking around my room, like this is a joke, right, what's happening? What's going on? The hell is happening right now?

00:58:10
Speaker 7: So smiley and happy as if nothing bad is going on in the really.

00:58:13
Speaker 2: Hello ten.

00:58:16
Speaker 5: Please instantly delivered to TL five one thousand.

00:58:21
Speaker 1: It's like, what the hell is happening?

00:58:24
Speaker 2: Just then, Angela knocks frantically on the back door. Corey rushes to open it, and an out of breath, Angela asks if Sean is there. Corey gives a nervous uh. She interrupts him. Stop it. He's standing me up, isn't he? Cory says no, but Angela doesn't care. I guess Jennifer was right. He's just not ready for a serious relationship. Corey tries to reason with her. You're doubting your whole relationship over one misdate. When you're in a relationship, you don't doubt first, You trust first.

00:58:50
Speaker 1: Wait, Janielle, I'm sorry. I never do this. Can you go back and one more time? Read what the letter.

00:58:58
Speaker 5: That the girls the fake letter the girls put to get him to the boat house?

00:59:04
Speaker 1: Yes, what did that say?

00:59:06
Speaker 4: It says?

00:59:08
Speaker 2: Let me see? Okay? Yeah, I guess she does. Sean reads the note attached. I can't stop thinking about you. Here's to our night of romance. Meet me at the boat house, love Angela?

00:59:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't they?

00:59:24
Speaker 2: I don't know it's very convenient confusion.

00:59:30
Speaker 3: It's convenient confusion to keep the plot going.

00:59:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, and to act as though even though they it was directly in their face that Angela left him Roses and told them to meet him at the boat house.

00:59:43
Speaker 4: That all men will assume.

00:59:47
Speaker 2: That they need to protect their friend friend, right, that they must be being shady for a reason, and bro code is protect them at all costs.

00:59:56
Speaker 5: Yes, but he was so excited to go see Angela and they were criticizing him for that.

01:00:03
Speaker 2: Well, no, I wouldn't say they were criticizing, but they were actually saying, Okay, he's doing it well, and they want They didn't call him a love puppet. They said women turn men into love puppets. Then they said, wow, Sean feels strongly enough about a girl, Well, does she feel the same about you? Oh, I guess she does. And then the button to that was next year, we need dates doing it right. He's doing it right. He's in a relationship with someone. They love each other equally. That's the way to do it.

01:00:30
Speaker 5: Yeah, this really makes no sense, makes no sense. Wow, Okay, yeah, geez okay.

01:00:36
Speaker 2: So and then when Corey says, you don't doubt first you trust first, which is exactly what Tapega did. I would like to point out she did trust him and then he lied, So I don't know why he is in any position to be making this sort of push to Angela. But okay, Angela realizes, interesting, you say that considering your current situation, or he tells her his current situation is only his current situation, and then the phone rings and Corey runs to answer it to Panga, Nope, it's Eric. Corey fully facting, says aloud, Sean did what And a little bit of a rare occurrence for Boy Meets World, we can hear what's on the other Angela's draw jaw drops, Corey answers the caller, Yeah, Angela's right here, and then we hear all the boys say in unison, uh, which again is like, how do we lie to protect Sean in this situation?

01:01:29
Speaker 4: And Sean has done nothing.

01:01:32
Speaker 3: Nothing wrong, and they knew where he was going.

01:01:34
Speaker 1: He was going to see the house, he was meeting you, So.

01:01:38
Speaker 3: All of the you know what, I bet you this was a rewrite. I bet you there was a version of this exact scenario where Sean did get a note from a mysterious other and decided to go and decided to go, or it was just vague enough that it could have been like, oh, maybe you know, maybe I can do this before I meet Angela or whatever, because then it would make sense that all the guys are paralyzed from Defender.

01:02:00
Speaker 4: And wanting to protect him.

01:02:01
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, they do, like, and I know what you did last summer thing. You get a note saying I know, and if you don't meet me at the boat house, I'm telling you something like that.

01:02:09
Speaker 3: But I think in a rewrite they were like, well, we can't have Sean be that much of a scumbag, so therefore they just Yeah, it's.

01:02:17
Speaker 5: Literally this is one writing wise where it's like what happened in one scene made no sense to the next scene, and this doesn't make sense with that, and it's like, wow, that's that's it's we We will have some story issues with a lot of episodes of Boy, but it's very rare that it's this blatantly like, wait a minute, this just doesn't make sense.

01:02:35
Speaker 4: A major problem.

01:02:35
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well, back at the boat house slash the possible murder scene, Sean is still handcuffed and Dana is telling her story. Then he said he wanted to be my boyfriend and only go out with me, and I believed him. And you said that you liked me, but you just didn't love me like me, which is forever a reasonable and a very polite thing to say to someone. Yes, Jennifer asks what Dana thought about that. She admits, I didn't understand him. Actually, then when he stopped calling, I understood that. Okay, So he was going to stop calling, and then he did, and then then he got it.

01:03:30
Speaker 4: Okay.

01:03:31
Speaker 2: Jennifer thanks Dana, then calls Libby Harper to the stand. Libby says, Sean came over to her house and they made out for like three hours. She really liked him, and she thought that he really liked her. Sean earnestly tells her he did, which gets a weird laugh from the audience, but he says people grow apart. And I had another date that night, which gets a normal laugh. I did think that was kind of funny. Jennifer stands up. Yeah, the date was with me, She smiles. Sorry, lib it's fine. The only person Sewan Hunter is capable of really liking a Sean Hunter. Jennifer ads, and that little curly haired guy, which funny joke coming from her. The door bursts open and Jack declares, how about a witness for the defense. Sewn is so relieved to see his older brother and Eric. Jack asks the girls what they're doing, and Eric wants to know why Sean's getting all the attention. Jennifer says they're friends of Angela. Shawn's on trial for sins against womanhood. Eric immediately tells them I gotta go and tries to jet out, but.

01:04:29
Speaker 4: Is stopped by Jennifer.

01:04:31
Speaker 2: Yeow. They smile at each other.

01:04:34
Speaker 1: I walked in. I thought how I walked in was funny where it's like Eric saw.

01:04:40
Speaker 2: I also thought they were trying to set it up to or maybe it was like an inside joke between you two, but where writer was like, oh thank god my brother Jack.

01:04:50
Speaker 1: And Eric and Eric, Yeah that was great.

01:04:53
Speaker 2: There was like a little bit and then you're like, so I feel like that was a joke between you two, that there was something going on. They smile at each other. Jack steps in to defend his brother. He's a good guy and any girl would be lucky to have him. Jennifer is now tickling Eric's neck. He's completely unsourceld. She asks him and what about you. Sean tries to wake him up. Eric, you know me, tell her what kind of guy I am so I can get out of here. Eric looks lovingly into Jennifer's eyes. You're pretty. He's a bad, bad man. Sean tells his brother he was supposed to meet Angela over an hour ago.

01:05:26
Speaker 4: He needs help. Jack has a plan, yeels out. I object.

01:05:30
Speaker 2: When asked on what grounds, he says he doesn't know any better. He's a man, a no good, lousy man, just like the rest of us. And I see Will shaking his head. Will hates this storyline.

01:05:42
Speaker 3: I do.

01:05:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate You're a man. So you're bad.

01:05:46
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's like, especially when they've set it up to her so far, Sean hasn't done you wrong. No, so I mean my god.

01:05:57
Speaker 2: Yep, he asks Libby, Oh God, why was I born with this curse? And he leans his head on her shoulder and smiles. Eric checks the handcuffs while Sean begs please, it's Valentine's Day. I made a promise to Angela.

01:06:09
Speaker 5: Now that was something I don't know if you noticed, but that was something righter. You and I obviously had some kind of inside something or because when I go over to check the handcuffs, I'm like looking at him, and then I look up at you and you look at me, and we both look away quick because we're both about to lose it. So there is something with the cuffs. It was something where it was like, don't look, don't look, because we are about to laugh.

01:06:36
Speaker 2: Yep, so Dana reminds him he made the same promise to her. Sean realizes she's right, but that was six months ago. So unless season three or was six months ago.

01:06:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, they did date more recently.

01:06:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, so okay, no one makes a promise that far in advance that they expect to keep. Jennifer asks, how far in advance can you make a promise? A week a day? Libby asks how long it will take until he hurts Angela just like the rest of them, Jennifer asks a week a day. Sean doesn't know, and right then Angela and Corey come rushing in. What do you three witches think you're doing? Shawn is so happy to see her. Jennifer tells Angela they're doing her a favor. She just doesn't know it yet. Angela says she knows one thing Sean would have been there for our date if it wasn't for you, guys valid and then.

01:07:29
Speaker 4: She unlocks Sean's handcuffs. How did she have the keys?

01:07:37
Speaker 3: That had?

01:07:37
Speaker 5: And it was the key with the little if you noticed it had like that hine foot on. I mean it was like, yeah, she had the key.

01:07:44
Speaker 2: Oh where were these? Okay? And he assures her I tried. I wanted to be with you more than anything tonight. He gives her a big hug. Jennifer claims Sean is trying to use his charm on the witness, and Dana says they're not leaving until Sean admits he's not boyfriend Ceial. Corey tells the girls to give him a break. Shawn's made mistakes, but he's learning from them. Jennifer points out, I guess you would know a thing about making mistakes. Corey Matthews, you made the biggest one of all when you lied to Tapanga the girls. Oh, Cory asks Jennifer, I never liked you, did I?

01:08:17
Speaker 4: She whispers no.

01:08:18
Speaker 2: Then she states her case about Corey Matthews exhibit a nice guy. If he can't be trusted, can any man be trusted? Corey defends himself. We all make mistakes and that's all right, because love doesn't require you to be perfect, but it does require you to forgive. And then Jennifer surprises everyone with a surprise witness. She turns to reveal Topanga Sean, Eric and Jack I'll gasp and do the dramatic Topanga whisper. Corey asks what she's doing here, and Tapega explains, they wanted to know if I could ever trust you after what you've done.

01:08:48
Speaker 4: I heard what you said.

01:08:49
Speaker 3: And it was a call Topanga.

01:08:52
Speaker 2: Right, so somehow it's going to be here, but not Angela and not Corey. But Corey was so Yeah, they called Topanga but not Cory, and Corey came.

01:09:06
Speaker 1: As a surprise witness.

01:09:08
Speaker 5: I think to prove that even nice, No, because then you'd have to call Corey.

01:09:13
Speaker 3: No, it just doesn't make any sense.

01:09:14
Speaker 2: No, Corey is so glad she's there. I'm so sorry about this whole thing. Let's just pretend it never happened.

01:09:21
Speaker 6: What a great suggestion from a person who's just screwed up.

01:09:27
Speaker 7: I have an idea. What if what if hear me out we just written I didn't do that?

01:09:34
Speaker 5: Yeah, what if and then take your feelings? You put him in a little box and down inside yourself. Yeah, and you think.

01:09:41
Speaker 2: You never if it comes up, you go no, no, no is wrong to Pega winces, I wish it never happened to Corey smiles. Good. Then let's go to Chubby's. We'll start all over to Panga tells him, I don't want to have to start all over, but I'm just so disappointed in you, and she walks away without saying another word. Angela tries to follow Topanga, but Sean stops her. He wants to talk. Angela just insists she doesn't care what these girls think. Sean argues, but they're right.

01:10:13
Speaker 3: Are they are?

01:10:14
Speaker 2: They have we that what we've learned here was established.

01:10:18
Speaker 3: In single and I've never done anybody.

01:10:21
Speaker 4: You were honest this whole time about it. I did feel for you.

01:10:25
Speaker 2: It's not even like as the trial was going on you were getting light bulbs.

01:10:29
Speaker 4: You were actually but I did and I didn't. But that was six months ago, and.

01:10:32
Speaker 2: I no, I have always wanted to feel for somebody what Corey feels for Tapanga, he continues to the exes. So I made promises I couldn't keep, and I said things that I wanted to feel and I kissed you like I loved you. I'm sorry if I hurt any of you. I didn't mean to. They all nod, seeming to accept his apology. Sean turns back to Angela. But I care about you too much to do that to you. I want to change our relationship because I think you have to be friends before you can fall in love.

01:11:06
Speaker 3: This made no sense to me.

01:11:09
Speaker 1: It does a friendship.

01:11:13
Speaker 3: Problem. Is not that he's not a good friend.

01:11:16
Speaker 1: He's a great friend.

01:11:17
Speaker 3: The problem is a bad lover like he.

01:11:20
Speaker 4: Is friends with Angela.

01:11:21
Speaker 1: Yes, they were friends.

01:11:23
Speaker 2: They were friends, they went out for two weeks, they broke up, they maintained a friendship, right, Yeah, And so is he trying to say, let's just not make out anymore. I don't.

01:11:38
Speaker 5: I don't know the lesson. I don't know the lesson other than man bad. Yeah, I mean, cheating need to be forgiven exactly.

01:11:46
Speaker 3: I mean basically it's like you, you know, like I said, the logic is the most evolved male thing to do is to be tortured in a relationship, like to be committed to somebody. Despite all the desires to not be in a.

01:12:03
Speaker 2: Relationship, Angela says, you want to be my friend. Sean nods, that's where I want to start. She asks, and where do you want to end up? Which feels like a weird thing for Angela to ask. Yeah, he admits, I don't want to end up saying things that I don't mean, and I don't want to end up making a promise that I can't keep.

01:12:24
Speaker 4: Not to you, She asks, why.

01:12:26
Speaker 2: Not to me?

01:12:27
Speaker 3: Sean, I know make any promise that he was killing his promises, yet I knowing else it literally makes no sense this entire I think that is in reference to six months out from now or going back to the very beginning of the episode, which I did think was really if there had been any sort of callback to it.

01:12:47
Speaker 2: You made the promise. Sean made the promise to Angela. I will never disappoint you or I will never let you down.

01:12:54
Speaker 4: It's one of those two right.

01:12:57
Speaker 8: Days.

01:12:57
Speaker 2: That too, He says, that too, right, and then he says, I will never disappoint you. I wouldn't because I because I will never disappoint you. That is a thing that you can say, I would never knowingly disappoint you. But like you could never promise I'm never going to do something living my life that you're not going to feel strongly about and feel let down by. So I guess like that him saying that at the beginning, because I did notice that is if you're if you're planning on being in a long term relationship with somebody and you say, I promise you will be.

01:13:31
Speaker 4: Thrilled with me one hundred percent of the time.

01:13:34
Speaker 3: I think the entire episode should should be built around Sean telling Corey to lie. Yes, and then this could just be you know what I've learned my lesson. I shouldn't have told Corey to lie. I will always be honest with you, yep, simple, clear, Yeah, And she could say thank you, But instead it's like friendship and let's take a step back, and then I won't Just it's like it's all this abstract stuff that doesn't but that relationship.

01:14:00
Speaker 5: To this Situaly point out that Sean didn't lie to the girls, and then if they all came in and said, here's how he lied to me. He told me he was going to be at such and such a place, and then it found out he was with another girl and then told me that was his cousin, but it turned out to be her.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's like if they went something bit, but they didn't do any of that.

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Speaker 1: He told me he liked me, but he wasn't in love with me.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, he broke up with me after making out with me.

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Speaker 5: Okay, after we dated for a while and we were fifteen. He was honest and broke up with me, and it hurt my feelings.

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Speaker 2: So Angela asks why not to me? Sean doesn't want to say. She tries to guess, because you care about me. But now suddenly Sean insists he's not talking, even though saying that yes, he cares about her would not be a lie. She asks what he's doing tonight and he says nothing. She asks, you want to hang out? He smiles and puts his arm around her to leave. He tells Corey he shouldn't be alone and invites him to come along. Corey siys, no, you guys, go ahead. I'm going to go to Chubby's. Sean's confused. Why would you go there? Corey says, was certainty because the Pang is going to be there. I know her. She'll be there, at least I hope she's there. After the three of them leave, Dana gets emotional. It was just so sweet. Isn't it the best to have friends? Jennifer snaps, oh, shut up, Valentine's say blows. Eric casually interjects, it really doesn't have to What do you guys think about a nice romantic dinner. He plops himself down in Jennifer's lap. Jack puts one arm around Libby and the other one around Dana. No lies, no false promises. Apparently they're setting up a threutle. Eric adds, just a lovely evening with two well intentioned guys. Jennifer asks if there's really such a thing, and Eric scoffs, Oh, You've got to learn to be more trusting. As the girls and Jack and Eric all file out of the boat house, Eric takes a quick stop to grab the pair of handcuffs.

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Speaker 1: Because of course I'm hanging out with high school chicks yep, and.

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Speaker 2: And I'm assuming showing us that no, you can not ever trust a man. You just said too well intentioned, and you run.

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Speaker 3: Out with hagus so that the shades of Eric.

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Speaker 2: We're in the tag. Remember our last episode didn't have a tag tag list. This one has a tag. Silence Or is sitting at a booth all by himself with a bouquet of roses set on the table, looking at his watch. The Chubbies workers are starting to clean up for the night, leaving only him, Sean, and Angela waiting at a table close by. Eventually they get up from their table and join Corey in his booth. Sean puts his arm around his best friend for comfort and we fade out.

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Speaker 3: So we all did go to chub come with us, and he said, no, I'm going there. So then we just went and said of a different table.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, him himself at Chubbies and empty Chubbies as they're cleaning up.

01:16:45
Speaker 1: What the hell is the point of having I.

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Speaker 4: Think that there's just to show that they're good friends.

01:16:49
Speaker 1: Oh that he already invited I know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we didn't love it, I think when it started, and then by the end we were like, I think, actually I'm on the side of I don't love it.

01:17:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just the story made no sense. Ull afterhole after hole in this one.

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Speaker 2: Well, join us for our next episode recap, which will be season five, episode sixteen, Torn between two lovers Feeling like a Fool, which originally aired February twenty seventh, nineteen ninety eight. Thank you all for joining us for this episode of Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on Instagram pod meets World Show. You can send us your emails pod meets World Show at gmail dot com, and we have merch.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm on the fence. That's my on the fence.

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