NFL Cover Zero: Top 5 teams, Tailgate Weddings and Week 2 Previews!

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Speaker 1: NFL Covers Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcast all Right. Episode four of the NFL Cover Zero Podcast Matt Jones and Drew Franklin. I hope everyone out there is doing well on this Wednesday. We are getting ready for another exciting weekend of action after what was a I think a fun Week one. You know, the NFL started doing this thing where they pair all the good teams together, and I think that works. Week one got everybody excited. There were record TV ratings, or at least I can't keep up with the TV ratings every week now because it seems like they're always records. But Drew has me ready for the second week, and you know, the second week of doing an NFL podcast with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if it'sitting, and like last week, we're in for a fun time. I mean last week you started with Thursday Cowboys Eagles through that wild Sunday night finish and you couldn't ask for a better first week. So let's keep that moment. I'm going.

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Speaker 1: And then my Bears stuck it stuck it up on Monday. I have to tell you, I don't know why I get my hopes up, you know that Monday. It started with such excitement. Caleb Williams drives right down the field. Then they get a quick three and out stock actually got two three and out stops come down, look like they might score again, end up with a field goal. But I was like, oh, it's good ten nothing, no problem. And then they didn't score again until the middle of the fourth quarter. The Bears are cursed. But JJ McCarthy look nice in that fourth quarter. I was watching the Manning cast and Randy Moss was. I mean, he wasn't doing like collins Worth in my collins Worth impressions, but he was close. He was so excited watching McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw he was named NFC Offensive Player of the Week. In that highly end.

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Speaker 1: You see really debut yet not.

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Speaker 2: A great look for you all there in the fourth quarter giving up what was it like three straight touchdowns or something. Just an absolute meltdown there on prog time for Week one. But as a Bears fan Titans fan, We're coming you soon. Yeah, we've seen those movies a couple times.

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Speaker 1: I'm used to it. I was expecting it to happen. I knew that the moment I knew they were gonna lose was when they I think they went for it at some point when they were on like the fifteen on fourth and three and they didn't get it, and I said, they're gonna lose. It's just it's happening. It's just a matter of when. And then it occurred. I was it was cool to see the eighty five Bears back. You know, that was my childhood, my childhood team. It was weird to see them be in their sixties and seventies. That was definitely a moment where I realized I was older than I sometimes appreciate when I look up and they're like, oh my, that's what jim McMahon looks like. Now, okay, So but I still prefer to think of them as the Super Bowl Shuffle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, watching them in eighty five when you're a kid, they're these superheroes that are bigger than life, the reunions that are reminder that life comes for everyone.

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Speaker 1: So, uh, Jimmy mahon looks like Jimmy mahon looks like baby Billy but without the wig like he I was. I realized I had not seen him in a long time, and so unfortunately didn't didn't work out for the Bears. They've got a big game that we'll talk about to going this week. Also, something important happened, Drew, which is for the first time in my life, I'm going on a radio program as an NFL expert. So I get you know, I get asked to go on program sometimes to talk about this or that, but I've never been asked to go on to talk about the NFL. And genuine generally I don't do a lot of interviews. But this guy rowe me. He's from Edmonton, Alberta in Canada, and he's like, listen to podcasts, think it's awesome, would like to have you on to talk to the NFL this week And I'm in. So after we finished taping this, Edmonton, here we come. NFL Expertise headed your way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you can't turn down interview opportunities. We're a new podcast. We got to get it out there.

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Speaker 1: However, we can gotta get out there.

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Speaker 2: I didn't expect you to say you'd be in Canada for your first one, but you know, good Good can't turn him down.

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Speaker 1: May you talk a little sit? Yeah, well it's for Connor McDavid. That's why I'm doing it for all the Edmonton Oilers past and present. I owe it to my people. I've been to Edmonton. It was really really cold. When I went. I nearly got detained at the border. I've been nearly detained at the Canadian border three times for a range of offenses, including farting. So you never and that's not an that's not a lie. So I'm looking forward to continuing my peace negotiations.

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Speaker 2: And we'll save that story for a rainy day. But I can confirm that that didn't infect.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the as we get into week two, I thought we'd go over some stuff that Billy's gonna have some news items to update you on the week. But overall week one, I think the biggest surprise to me after Week one was how well the Packers play, just the absolute dismantling of the Lions, seeing how well Michael Parsons fits in immediately in week one, and then the biggest sort of disappointment for me on the other side would be the play of the Miami Dolphins. We'll do our rankings here in a minute of the top five in the bottom three, but the Dolphins were an absolute disaster. Does Daniel make it out of say Week.

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Speaker 2: Six, it's not looking good. I mean, I don't even think that's a good Colts team that they went in there and almost got shut out by his comments This week have not been pleasant. So it was a miserable experience. And if there's one positive takeaway, it's that it couldn't be any worse that they're at rock bottom. I just don't see a lot of hope in them climbing out of that rock bottom for a while. Hopefully they can do better than eight points, but you've got drama with Tyreek to his turnover, and we know what his body's been through. There's just not a lot of optimism in Miami right now.

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Speaker 1: I like when he said it couldn't be worse, I think it could. I mean, they still have It's still one game, and you can say, because there's always a weird Week one result, so maybe you convince yourself we're the weird Week one result this year. But it could be worse. And we talked about on our season preview that it feels like they that maybe the act is wearing thin with Mike McDaniel, and so I think it's gonna happen sooner rather than later. I'll be interested to see what the reception of the Miami fans are when they're at home next week. What about the Packers, I mean, even in hindsight, I went back and looked at some of the I did something I never do, which is watching NFL game twice. I went back and watched some of it, because, yeah, I did. I did a little film study last night. They were dominant. Jordan loves kind of doing whatever he wants. Is he an MVP candidate? He looks good.

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Speaker 2: I know there were concerns about how they looked the season after a good year last year and then the little thumbish issue. But man, they hit on several explosive plays. I mean, they were doing really about everything they wanted. It got to the point they didn't even have to do much in the fourth quarter of the defense had done all the work. They were able to just sit on the ball and run out the clock. But that looks I mean, we all know what the Eagles are on the NFC, but the Packers look like they're knocking on that door too. They look like a serious contender. Well, I thought it would.

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Speaker 1: Be good after Week one to sort of rank our team's top five in bottom three because this will change over the course of the year, and so for me right now at the top five, I think, as long until they lose, since they're coming off the Super Bowl, you have to take the Eagles number one. I know the game with the Cowboys wasn't perfect, but they get the victory. So I'm gonna to me, you held on the number one until you lose. I think the Bills after you beat the Ravens have to be number two, but then I think it's up in the air. I'm going to take the Packers third at this point because of how good they looked laying against the Lions team that was so good last year. I'm gonna go ahead and take the Ravens number four. I know they lost, but still even with the loss, I think they should have won that game. They were the better team throughout most of the game. And then number five, I think you can go a lot of different ways with I'm guessing I'm going to give it to the Chiefs based on reputation, but with a worrysome if they lose to the Eagles this week, you might they will drop out of the top five for me, but I'll keep the same basically four of the five teams I would have had going in, but since the Packers beat the lines, they replace them for me. How about you.

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Speaker 2: Looking at about the same teams but with some different order. I'll start at the top and agree with you. With the Eagles super Bowl champs until they're knocked off. I can't put anyone ahead of them. Thursday Cowboys, you know, scoring on them early and have a little bit of shootout in that first half. That was unexpected. But I don't think that says much about the Eagles, uh, change anything. There's still one of one for me in the NFL. But I got a surprise at number two, even though they lost. I'm putting Baltimore Titans. The watchability are you putting at? But number two? No, even though they lost, I'm going Baltimore. Derrick Henry does not really Derek Henry does not fumble that ball ever. Again, they're in Buffalo. I know that's all.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna pick the tighter the Ravens over the team they beat.

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Speaker 2: I am, but I know that, sir. That's because Derek can't do that. It's because Derek cam only fumbles once and he just did it. He doesn't do it again.

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Speaker 1: You're not allowed to do that. That's not you're You're not allowed to do that. I'm I'm throwing the challenge flag. You cannot have one game one team beats the other one and you put in my head of him, you can't.

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Speaker 2: I just did it. It's pretty cool. I just did it. And then I'll go Bill style like it. Bill Bills are my Super Bowl pick. I just know that the Ravens were kicking their tail until I got a little fluky at the end and some magic happened in the Bill Stadium. I think, if if that's a series, the Ravens win the series. So I've moved the Ravens ahead of them. And then Bill's three four. I think you also had this. I like the Packers here or no, you had Packers three. But regardless, Packers big climb for me. I didn't have them top five, probably not even top seven or eight honestly until that game against the Lions, who I did think holly of so Packers four, and then I'll agree with you on the Chiefs. That loss in Brazil. I don't know if that says more about them or Herbert and the Chargers or a real threat in that division. Now, I'll give them that one loss. I still think the Chiefs are a top five team.

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Speaker 1: Well it's a little fluky too. You know, Xavier Worthy gets hurt and that leads into Travis Kelcey. Well, actually, i'll tell you what. What it leads into is our news. I don't want to leave our men Billy out because he went scouring the ap wires. I don't even know if that exists anymore. You know, they literally used to have wires where they would actually I don't know if they were wires. I guess it would come over a wire. I don't think it was actual wires, but it would come over a wire and they would say, here are the news reports. So Billy has been scouring those. He still uses those. He doesn't use the Internet, which I think he needs to update, and he's going to have our news for the week. Billy, what are the news items?

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Speaker 3: Well, we can start with Travis Kelcey. On his New Heights podcast, he took the blame for injuring his teammate Xavier Worthy in Brazil in Week one. He said, quote, he wasn't ready for that first drive. He was supposed to be running his route for depth for Worthy, and he's got to be better. Worthy suffered a dislocated shoulder during that first game versus the Charger.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't know if he's going to play this week. I thought it was interesting. Kelsey's been the league thirteen years. He completely took responsibility. Its basically said this was on me. I was supposed to be out of the way. I ran into him. I hurt him. I have to be better. You got to give him like points for honesty there, don't you Maybe, I mean might be maybe he's distracted by the wedding plans, but nevertheless, you can't be running into your teammates like that.

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Speaker 2: No, and he's he's clear, he feels terrible. I mean, he's the veteran of that locker room. Captain even said at third teen years, I can't make that mistake. You've got a young receiver with all the potential in the world. He's a big part of your offense, and moments into the game you'd literally run into him because if your mistake and he's out maybe a week, who knows, we'll find out, but you can tell that one's eating him up. And I think that's part of the reason the Chargers were able to pull that off. Worthy is a big thing, big part of what the Chiefs are going to do, and they lost that part of the offense. There's probably a lot of it scripted going through him, he.

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Speaker 1: Said, I think, yeah, I think Kelsey said that he was a major part of the game plan, almost insinuating that going to save your Worthy was going to be essentially a huge part of how they ended up going against the Chargers. So, you know, I love a guy who takes responsibility for his actions. There's also a report, lots of reports now that Taylor Swift is the likely pick for the Super Bowl. So I did some in depth research on this all right, So you know, besides Roger Goodell going with Hoda in saying it, I was wondering what was making everybody say this. So I'm gonna give you some facts I learned. Number one, the you know, she has a deal with Coke and Pepsi has been the official sponsor of the NFL Super Bowl show for like fifteen years, but they will not be and so some people think she was waiting for Pepsi to no longer be involved in order to do the Super Bowl halftime show. Now, I am someone who much prefers coke to pepsi and diet coke and diet pepsi is basically the difference between you know, gold and rust to me, So I do every time I go to a restaurant, somebody will say I'll get a dit coke, and they'll go, is diet pepsi okay? And you just have to say, I guess.

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Speaker 4: I like.

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Speaker 1: However, Taylor Swift has such a big difference about it. She won't even do the halftime show if she thinks you're going to be using diet pepsy.

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Speaker 2: It's a big twist. I didn't know this in considering our halftime options with Taylor. I've always thought of I prefer the taste of coke, but it's always like the dated brand for me, a picture like the old Santa Claus and like the old ads where pepsi's the cool that he'd go with a halftime show for a while. So I don't know if coke has the swag that Pepsi did in that spot, but I agree with you it is the better, the better beverage.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think Michael Jackson that was I think it started with Michael Jackson with it with Pepsi being the choice of a new generation and now I guess the generation has finally ended and it's time for for Coke and Taylor Swift to take over.

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Speaker 2: We know that Swifties will pay anything for a ticket. What is if she were to be the halftime show, and let's say Travis is on the sideline, like, do Swifties pump up the super Bowl ticket market? That's already it's outrageous. But you know, if, if, especially if Travis is there, you know the Swifties are going to want to get in.

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Speaker 1: They didn't even think about that. You think you think the Swifties are such big fans that they would actually buy Super Bowl take it's.

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Speaker 2: Just to see it's a Taylor Swift concert in the United States. Of course they're going to try to be there. There are people leaving the country going to random places internationally just to get a look at her in a consert.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even think. I didn't even think about that as an option that that is actually crazy to me. But you you know, maybe you're right. Okay. The second thing that people said, this is super Bowl sixty this year, which I don't I don't know that I'd made that realization. But at Super Bowl sixty at the on the Travis Kelcey Jason Kelcey New Heights podcast, Taylor Swift said, of course that she makes sour not We talked about that on a previous episode if you're keeping you know, track with the news on here. But apparently she said in it that she makes it about sixty percent of her time.

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Speaker 2: Who notices that?

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, but I saw on this.

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Speaker 5: I saw on the Taylor Swift Super Bowl rabbit Hole that she makes it sixty percent of the time, which they think was a hint that she was going to do super Bowl six?

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Speaker 1: Do you buy that?

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Speaker 2: If this for anyone else, I'd say this is stupid. But she's big on numbrology what does she call it? Numerology, and loves these little Easter eggs. She's always leaving little clues anywhere. So the fact that it's Taylor Swift, even though I think it's outrageous, someone noticed that she said sixty percent of the time, I kind of believe she's dropping another hint there.

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Speaker 1: Maybe so to me now I'm officially on By the way, every year it is about this time of year, apparently right around week two where they announced the Super Bowl halftime performer. So just keep it, keep it tuned right here on NFL cover zero for the latest news. We'll have it before anybody else. I'm sure what's next? Bill?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 2: Also, she has a new album coming out this month, So super Bowl announcement, new album, it's really lining.

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Speaker 1: Up sixty of her time, supers hour, dough and all is starting a lot exactly all right? What's next?

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Speaker 3: The Bills fan who pushed Lamar Jackson and DeAndre Hopkins from the crowd the other night is banned indefinitely, not from just all Bills games from but from all NFL games. He was ejected shortly after the shove, but now he will not be back. So it's indefinitely or is it ever indefinitely? So how does he reapply? No, I'm serious, Like when I hear when when I when I hear that, I you know, I'm a logistics person. I mean, I think it's clear he needs to be banned for some amount of time. But my logistics question is number one, how do they make sure he doesn't get in?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 1: What is the way they're gonna make sure he doesn't get in? What if he has a fake mustache.

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Speaker 2: I'm that I'm wondered that I have a friend that's banned from Toronto Blue Jay games like I do too.

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Speaker 1: You might be on this, might be on this podcast. Actually friend me, I same.

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Speaker 2: Thing, But like, how would they know if I slash my friend went to Toronto Blue Jay they wouldn't know. How do you how do you pull this off?

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Speaker 1: I think you should. I think you gotta go to the Toronto Blue Jays game just to see I. It would be hilarious to me because that's been fifteen years, twelve years whatever since you've done it. If the moment we walked in, they just came and took you right out, that would be pretty amazing.

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Speaker 2: I'm like ten yards away walking up getting my ticket out and they're like, nope, out of here, Drew, we told you.

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Speaker 1: And for people wonder why it's cousin Drew Smack John Allard.

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Speaker 2: He was talking, he was talking bad about everybody.

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Speaker 1: He was walking around. Dave Steve came out and my man, Drew just gave him a sucker punch. He wasn't allowed it. The same thing is, let's say he wants to come back. Let's say in ten years he feels like he served his time. Does he have to call the NFL and say, man, I please come to a game? Again? What is what does he have to do?

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Speaker 2: I think it's it's like you got to prove your good behavior. I don't know how he doesn't do.

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Speaker 1: I know he just you just call the toll free number at the NFL and say, may I please come back?

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Speaker 2: If I'm him, I get a buddy and I go outside and a pick up trash outside Bill's games, And I'm like, look at me, look at me doing service for the NFL in the Bills that I made a mistake. Look, I'm helping people cross the streets get into the game, and I'm just trying to be the best person.

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Speaker 1: If no one noticed, I mean, what if they didn't realize it was the same guy. It was just that was phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: Well, at least you're being a good person after your mistake. But I don't know how it's in Definitely, I don't know what changes. I don't know if they send out a memo in three years or they've lifted the ban. But it's not surprising there was a punishment for that guy.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it was the right call. But I'm skeptical on the you can't come in the stadium bands for people that are not well known. I feel like there would be a way he could just grow a beard and he likely would be able to get in. But maybe somebody out there knows how they actually enforced these bands. I'm very curious. Sorry, what's next?

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Speaker 3: Well we do another news No, here, we can, let's do two from why That's.

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Speaker 1: Why I went to you was what's next? The news notes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, here I am and Liam Cohen said Wednesday that Travis Hunter will get more snaps on defense. In Week two versus Cincinnati, he had six receptions for thirty three yards and eight targets on offense and only six snaps on defense, including one tackle that trails. The news yesterday that the Jaguars are sending Tank Bigsby to the Philadelphia Eagles for a twenty twenty six fifth and sixth round pick.

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Speaker 1: So it's crazy to me they're going to play more. I guess you know, he had a decent game, but he only played eight snaps on defense. I mean, how many how many snaps do you think that he could actually get in on defense? And it's clear they want to use him full time as a wide receiver. Okay, what's what's the max eight, twelve fifteen? Where do you top it off?

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Speaker 2: Well, we played like forty two of sixty four snaps on offense. If he's doing that again and he really is a feature receiver, I just don't know how you can play him much more on defense. I think you'd have to pull the offense down a little bit to give him defense. Toime, I'll say, maybe they get him up to ten, but it's already a big workload. We've never seen this done. Also, the one clip I saw of him, he kind of got beat a little bit of one of his first plays on defense. Maybe he'll get his feet under him. I givehi Attle a few more snaps, but it just seems like he needs to be an offensive guy. And they'll brought this out a little bit for the pr.

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Speaker 1: We did have an NFL Cover zero listener in West Virginia text me and say that he did not think it was that impressive. Why everybody's acting like it's crazy. Travis Hunter can do it. That he played for his high school and played every play on both sides, and he said, quote Matt, while I was tired. I still was able to do it. Travis Hunter can too. Now. I don't know if West Virginia high school football and an NFL game are exactly the same, but Travis Hunter has done it so far, so I mean why not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, good for the West Virginia guy. There's a little difference this week. Travis Hunter will be trying to guard Let's see their names are Jamar Chase t Higgins, Joe Brow will be throwing at him. I just think that's a little bit different than the comparison. But good for that guy going both ways and being a good player. You don't know where in West Virginia he was from. There were really fast people in that part of West Virginia. You just you're so you've always been so biased against people from the mountains. All right, what's your next piece of news, Billy? All Right?

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Speaker 3: Is this comes from Tennessee Titans coach Brian Callahan. A misinterpreting what the NFL rule is for a catch is I believe the third quarter he did not challenge a play in what it looked like a Titans receiver got an elbow down. Afterwards, after the game, he told reporters that NFL players need an elbow and a foot down for it to be a catch. He then later corrected himself and said he misinterpreted the rule, but many believe that was a missed opportunity for the Titans in a close game versus the Denver Bronco.

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Speaker 1: Really bad look, Brian Coe to not know the rule. I mean, it's a really bad look. Like I mean, to be honest with you, I don't I knew the rule. And this goes back to my every football team needs a director of common sense on the sideline elbow in all, at least in college in the NFL has always been a catch down. It's crazy to me Drew that he would not have known that that was the rule.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's my team. Not only did it hurt him in a big point in the game, it was a first and twenty late in the third quarter. It would have been a first down. But like when he gave his explanation afterwards, we all just we were kind of embarrassed. Like already there's questions about Callahan's play calling. He had a bad clock management spot in that game, and now he the fact that he actually explained the rule wrong. It's not that he didn't challenge. He actually tried to say no, no, no, no, no, I know the rule. This is the rule. And when he said it, that wasn't the rule. And he had to come back Monday and basically confess, yeah, guys, I got that one wrong.

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Speaker 1: But don't you just have to lie at that point.

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Speaker 2: But it's also just to go.

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Speaker 1: It was my strategy. You have to be like that woman who voted in the AP vote that put South Florida didn't rank South Florida but raise Florida two spots and they asked her why and she goes, well, it's a system, it's a whole formula. I can't really get into it, which I thought was one of the great lie answers of all time. I feel like this would have been a good thing for him to do. Just go. I mean I thought his I thought his elbow wasn't down. You got to lie. You can't say you don't know the rule.

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Speaker 2: And he was so direct, he was like, no, you have to get a foot in bounds with an elbow. And it's like I'm at home, like I don't think that's the case, Brian. But it's not just him. You have a whole booth and a whole staff that tells you when to challenge not to challenge. How did no one in a tight with a Titans headset on go, hey, guys, wait a minute, that's absolutely a catch. We should challenge, not a whisper of that. And that's the most embarrassing part.

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Speaker 1: I think Brian Callahan might be an awful coach. And I hate to say that about someone, but just you know, when you watched him last year, there was a lot of signs and then you could go, well it was because of Will Levis or whatever. As I sit here with my UK hat on, but I think I think there might be. I think that might be another sort of leader in the coach fired this year. One margin, Billy, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Got one more of you'd like. The NFL is finding Eagles defensive tackle Jalen Carter over fifty seven thousand dollars for spending on Dak Prescott in Week one. The league is also saying that the game he was ejected for will serve as his one game suspension, so he will be ready to go to play the Kansas City Chiefs in Week two.

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Speaker 1: It feels about right to me. I mean, got a whole game. It happened right at the beginning, so he really didn't even get to play. So I feel like one game is fair. You know, I do an ESPN show with Herm Edwards. Herman Edwards was like, I'd make him in game two not play and stand next to me on the sideline and look at his teammates. And I was like, that's such an old school, great Herm Edwards thing to say. But I feel like one game's probably about the ride mile time drew.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a game. He's just walking off to start the game, first game of the entire NFL season, prime time. Everyone's watching. He learned his lesson, he got his embarrassment. What I'm confused about is like, when they have these meetings about the finds, is there a book that's like spit fifty seven thousand, Like, how do we calculate what that wat of spit cost that he should be.

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Speaker 1: This is a very specific number, fifty seven thousand, Like it's a very this is gonna be the exact the exact amount each piece of spittle is wearing sixteen three hundred dollars and we're going to get to fifty You had three and a half spittles.

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Speaker 2: So is that just a rule? So if someone were to spit you know, this weekend's game bits seven thousand sixty dollars, that's the policy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense to me. I think I think it's perfectly, perfectly understandable. Let's go for a couple other things. First of all, two different players got cut for bad performance in Week one. J Moody, the kicker for the forty nine Ers, a third round draft pick just two years ago as a kicker, he gets cut. I feel like every time somebody picks a quarterback in the first three rounds, they end up being terrible. Lesson is probably don't ever pick a quarterback until the third day. And then Xavier Gibson, the putt returner for the Jets who made the big fumble that led Pittsburgh to being able to win, he too was cut. Both were kind of cut because of one major mistake. Forty Niners still won the game, they still cut him. Do you think one mistake should be enough to make you go home? Do you think you like cut somebody in game one to show we're not we're not dealing with people shenanigans.

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Speaker 2: Was Xavier Gibson that was Aaron Glenn sending a message. He called him out after the game said I'm only gonna have people here that are here to win. I mean. He followed through with his words and cut him as soon as he could. Gibson's also a guy that you know friends beat out another player for a spot. So if you're gonna fumble right away, I mean, I guess you're gonna get what's coming for you. With Moody, you know, he's been there a couple of years. As you said, a big draft pick a kicker. I might have given him another opportunity to prove it was a bad day, but now forty nine ers weren't having it. He missed two field goals and that was enough in a game they still won. As you said, so I was more surprised by the kicker change than the fumbled kick return with the Jets.

00:28:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a little surprised by the kicker change, but I don't think outside of about five kickers, I feel like the NFL just recycles kickers, but they cut them, keep them, cut them, keep them. I've always believed that kickers are so much more important than NFL teams act like you know, they'll they'll do it for a handful of right, they'll do it for the you know, justin Tucker for many years, and there were there are a few, but then in general a lot of them just they come, they go, they come, they go, and it's such an important position, and it is interesting. I used to advocate, why won't people pick kickers higher because they win or lose you a couple games every year, And this is why you don't, because then you pick them in the third round and two years later they're gone and you end up just they just sign people off the street. That's another thing about kicking, is they just signed people off the street now. We asked on last week's show, why is the kicking so much better now? And what I was told by a number of people who would know is kickers are now allowed to use their own balls. Did you know this? And so they don't just when it's time to kick, they take one ball off and they bring a kicking ball on. And each kicker is allowed to massage and deep rub his balls before the game, and his rubbing of his balls can make them a certain type of happiness so that they will be more successful in their in their performance, and so these kickers have learned over the years how to manipulate and rub their balls in such a way that they will fly farther in the air. And that is why, according to folks I talked to, that they go that more made.

00:30:21
Speaker 2: The ballcare is very important, and I'm glad that people are allowed to take care of their own. Now, a good example of what you're saying about picking kickers and signing them. Just last week we're talking about a third round draft pick who's maybe twenty four years old is getting cut, where the story of the weekend was a forty one year old who was coaching his son and hops on a plane a red eye and goes and wins the biggest game of the weekend.

00:30:43
Speaker 1: Well so, but that's why the added ten or fifteen yards is. I guess this rule of self bald massage growth in it recently has made it to where these kickers are much more successful, and that's why the kicks go farther. So thank you to our listeners who actually gave us an answer to these very very difficult questions. Now we also it is now time to preview Week two. It's coming up starts tomorrow night. We're not gonna go over all the games, but I thought i'd go over the ones that were maybe the most interesting or biggest storylines. But before we do that, you and I wanted to have a guest, right. We've talked about for a while that we we want to have guests on this show. We don't want to be the only ones talking. But rather than start with a football expert, we saw love occur last Sunday. We saw two people, bounded by the holy spirit of Cleveland Brown's football, join their lives together. You may have seen the video of Brown Spider and First Lady saying their vows in a Cleveland Brown's tailgate parking lot. And so I said to Billy, Billy, you are going to go get us First Lady in brown Spider. And if you're a listen, last week Billy said, I don't have access to DM people on Twitter because I don't I'm not verified. Billy. Nevertheless, you were able to make it happen. How did you do that?

00:32:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just sent out a normal tweet asking brown Spider in the First Lady to follow me back so that I could DM them and set things up. And now I'm just waiting on my Tate Ratledge jersey.

00:32:31
Speaker 2: That's right.

00:32:32
Speaker 1: Do you want me to follow through with that?

00:32:34
Speaker 2: Oh?

00:32:35
Speaker 3: I mean if you're a man of your word.

00:32:37
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I will go to the NFL store and look up and see if you can even purchase a Tate Ratleige jersey. But if they, if I can, when I come back from South Africa, you Billy are Sports will have a tape Ratledge the Tate line jersey. Well good, I'm glad that's what you want. But anyway, without further ado, let's talk. This was we taped this earlier our interview with our two famous Cleveland Browns Faith Okay, Drew, it's that time. Is now time to bring on our first ever live guest to open up and kick off our guests here on NFL cover zero. And I think we have the right one, don't you.

00:33:29
Speaker 2: Exactly. I can't think of a better first guest, two first guests than the two we have today.

00:33:33
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. So we're seeing we saw a lot of you saw a video from week one of two people who got married in a parking lot for the Bengals Browns game. It was Brown Spider and First Lady, two famous Cleveland Browns fans and they have now joined us here on NFL Cover zero. Congrats to the new couple.

00:33:55
Speaker 7: Thank you, thanks for having us, Thank you so much.

00:33:58
Speaker 1: Of course. So let's just start with the story. You guys met.

00:34:03
Speaker 8: I think I heard you met a few years ago at a Kansas City Chiefs Brown's game and Brown Spider tell me you didn't notice each other then, But what made you start to noticing first lady when you were ready to make your moves?

00:34:17
Speaker 7: Oh? Well, you know so we didn't meet in Kansas City. In January twenty twenty one, twenty twenty season, after the Browns lost to the Chiefs, we all went to the Browns Beckers Establishment and then a few of us said, hey, let's go out to a club you've drove in and you know, I say, yeah, we can ride in my car, and the first lady was one of the people in the car. We spent several hours together as a group of people, but I don't remember didn't remember her in particular. He didn't remember me in particular. But my car is a little weird, so he remember that later when seeing each other on social media.

00:34:59
Speaker 1: It's not just weird. What does he have in his car for lady. I think people need to know.

00:35:06
Speaker 6: It is first office car. Itself is spider Man blue, and there are blue Spider Man hubcats. There were a bunch of Spider Man and random stuffing for anybody with grandchildren. In the back window, there was a Spider Man hanging from the rear view mirror. So when I've seen him on social media recording a video in his car, I immediately remembered the car and said, oh, this is that.

00:35:38
Speaker 7: This is that strange.

00:35:39
Speaker 6: Guy that dropped us. So we all went to the club together after the Kansas City game and sent him a friend request. And if you go back through both of our timelines, you'll see a couple of Twitter kind of beefs back and forth between the two of us on youth that we had that didn't quite line up.

00:35:59
Speaker 1: But well you start, you started beefing. What were you beefing about?

00:36:06
Speaker 6: Oh, not the things. You know how Twitter is and people are strong in their beliefs, and we both were walking a path of self discovery after relationships and family changes, and we both had very strong opinions.

00:36:23
Speaker 7: About things that we believe.

00:36:25
Speaker 6: And I could just recall a couple of times I've made some posts from a female perspective, and he had a male perspective that was a little different than mine. And we had a little back and forth, and I won't say what I thought about him at the time, but it all worked out.

00:36:45
Speaker 2: We're glad it worked out. But before we learn more about this relationship, I need even know about the spider obsession. I thought it was just a nickname. But you're telling me stuffed animals in the car, the cars decorated like it, Brown Spider, How did you even get this spider obsession you have?

00:37:02
Speaker 7: Well, I'm an old guy. So when I was a kid, I'd come home every day and watch Spider Man from the you know, Spider Man, Spider Man does whatever a spider candet, that old cartoon that's from nineteen sixty seven. And I've been kind of obsessed since. You know, I have dreamed sometimes of being Spider Man and doing Spider Man things.

00:37:25
Speaker 1: And so.

00:37:27
Speaker 7: Back in twenty sixteen, you know, first Lady talked about self discovery stuff. I had gone through a significant separation. All my kids had grown up, and so I didn't have anyone to sort of run behind and be a caretaker for, and I had forgotten who I was, And one of the things that came back into my life was I ended up having a bunch of Spider Man T shirts that I collected and I wore them to work all the time. Because I'm a psychiatric nerd, they encourage you to wear regular clothing. So all the patients called me Spider Man, and you know that's kind of you know, the long and short of that.

00:38:09
Speaker 1: So you got what So you became a spoder Man obsessed person and then you ended up meeting your first lady. So you guys, you fail for each other. Now you're both Cleveland brown Fans. Is that like it feels like it's a tough distance, is it?

00:38:27
Speaker 7: Well, you learned to just just like I was driving down the street the other day and I saw a doll with three legs and he was barking at everything, so he wasn't worried about not having four legs. So you get used to it being a Browns fan. You get used to the ups and downs, and you learn to embrace the community and the community of suffering, but broader than that, the community of the tailgates and the away games and running into the same people and you know, getting to know people and that's kind of how that's how we met. You know, since twenty nineteen, we every year was three four or five different games that we were at at the same time, not knowing each other until we really got to know each other at twenty twenty three.

00:39:16
Speaker 2: So let's talk about this.

00:39:17
Speaker 7: You know, it's.

00:39:19
Speaker 6: It's easy to be a fan of a team, a fan of a person when everything is going right. Being a Brown fan you build a lot of resiliency. You learn how to sign the silver lining and things that aren't quite always perfect. You learn how to take the blows and life as life deals them out to you. So it's helped build a character that's made us a perfect couple.

00:39:49
Speaker 2: Let's talk about this. Tell Gay, we all saw the one last Sunday. I believe they said it was in the Muni lot. Were you all todd to not first lady, I'll ask you. Was it just an automatic decision we're doing it before a Browns game, or did you consider other venues, maybe doing it at a church, or did you all just oh, this was the place you had to do it outside the stadium.

00:40:10
Speaker 6: Well, the Brown Spider proposed on Father's Day, So between Father's Day and the opening game is eighty six days, and we probably waited about thirty days before we made our very first plan. And when we went back and watched the proposal video because one of our family members recorded it, he actually said after he proposed, hah, we're going to get married in the movie lot and in this kind of snowball from there, you know, we both every day girl.

00:40:44
Speaker 5: Wants first lady, Isn't that what every girl wants is to get married in the movie line?

00:40:50
Speaker 6: It should be what every girl wants that she doesn't. If a man is willing to marry you, you get married where he says, you're getting married and he says, that's right up my alley.

00:41:07
Speaker 1: So I watched the wedding. People are all in Brown's gear. You guys, did you just invite any one that was at a tailgate that wanted to come?

00:41:19
Speaker 7: Well, the way the Communi lot is set up, it's iconic, is huge, and so we had to do some planning. Its first come, first served. So long story short, I had to buy fourteen parking spaces and I had gone down there a few times to pre plan how this was going to go. So we basically had about one hundred pairs set up for audience and velvet rope around that. We had a stage that was eight by twenty four and two feet high so that we were lifted up so that people who are standing around watching could actually see us as well. We had the backdrop there. So thinking, like you said, it's snowballed and once you get an idea, well we need to do is and we need to do that. But so that's not how that went.

00:42:10
Speaker 6: Yeah, we had two different versions of the even Evite, and one version was for VIP access and we provided leander for everybody that was in the one hundred seats and separate from that, everybody in the Mooney Lot was invited if you could get down to that side of the Mooney Lot to stand around. That's why Charles played for the stage to lift us up. But we've provided one hundred seats for our very special family friends Twitter folks that season ticket members that had never been to the Mooney Lot were able to come down and.

00:42:49
Speaker 7: To watch them.

00:42:49
Speaker 6: We wanted everybody that's the Browns fan that was in the Mooney Lot, die hard fans, we wanted them all to be able to be a part of our special day because they're a part of our everyday lives from September through January.

00:43:04
Speaker 2: Did you do a first dance? And what was the first dance song?

00:43:09
Speaker 7: Well, so it rained.

00:43:12
Speaker 4: The weather man said it was going to be clear, and it rained.

00:43:17
Speaker 7: Well, we went into the lot at five.

00:43:18
Speaker 4: Am and it started raining five thirty and it rained up until and a little behind the time we were supposed to start at nine thirty.

00:43:29
Speaker 7: So we weren't able to get the sounds set up because you know, electronics and all that, and we were running around doing that, So we didn't do a first dance. We actually didn't have music. I sung and rapped and sort of hyped the crowd from the microphone. I wasn't able to get the microphone set up.

00:43:47
Speaker 1: Okay, well wait, hang on, hang on, hey on, brown Spider, you sung and you rapped? What did you sing and rap? I need to know?

00:43:56
Speaker 7: Oh it was, Well, let's see, I don't know what you heard about me?

00:44:01
Speaker 2: And then.

00:44:03
Speaker 7: Yes, I like it the dollar out of me. That's something I just off the top of my head. Two years ago, a friend of mine asked me to say some mc rhyme. Now, I asked the crowd, did anyone know the words to here? Comes the ride when it was her time to come out. I mean I just had to add left because we didn't have the music.

00:44:27
Speaker 1: Well, let me do we just got a second. Let me ask you this. Give me both of you. Give me your favorite Browns player in history.

00:44:34
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm gonna go with Bernie Man. Bernie co Star represents everything it means to be a Brown f fan. He chose us, he manipulated the supplemental draft of play in Cleveland, and uh he fell short so many times, the three losses an AFC Championship game, and he's still a local hero. He's battling some health issues right now and he cannot be more positive in his outlooks. So we just love Bernie co Star death here in Cleveland. You know, there are so so many brown players that we love over the years, but Bernie's got to be number one in a hard type of thing.

00:45:17
Speaker 6: First, Lady, I would second that this is always a hard question for me because I have a uh, depending on the decade, right, I'm going to go with a little a new school player. Miles Garrett has always been one of my absolute favorite players. He's just such a humble guy, my guy loving, dinosaur loving spider Man. I love that he loves dinosaurs. He's just a down to earth person. I have had a chance to meet him in person one time, and I was I'm not a starstruck person, but I was absolutely star struck by Miles Sarett what he has been able to.

00:45:59
Speaker 1: Do with his fact.

00:46:00
Speaker 6: He had a great We didn't win on Sunday, but he had a great game. He got after Joe Burrow. I can't wait to see the Joe Burrow's tombstone in Miles Garrett's front yard when Halloween rolls around. So I'm gonna go with Miles Garrett for this one.

00:46:18
Speaker 1: Well, I hope you guys have a very successful marriage. Where's the honeymoon? London?

00:46:24
Speaker 7: The Brown's playing London October? Ill, guess I think it is. So we're going to London. We're flying out October first, and we're gonna kick it around London and be some weird food.

00:46:37
Speaker 1: And it's not that weird different there. You'll love it. It's not yet different Brown Spider. First, lady, very cool. You ended up on ESPN. Now you're on the NFL Covers zero podcast. We appreciate your time.

00:46:51
Speaker 7: Thank you so much.

00:46:53
Speaker 6: We appreciate you having us. Thank you anytime you want us to come back us appearance.

00:46:59
Speaker 4: Thank you.

00:47:13
Speaker 1: Well, that's a beautiful story, I have to say. It really is a beautiful story of love finding its way in the Cleveland Browns parking lot. What do you think about the Spider Man car. I kind of liked his explanation of it. He goes, you know what, things work great in my life at the time I turned to Spider Man.

00:47:30
Speaker 2: You know, first upon a car full of spider stuff that's different. But then his explanation of I kind of found my inner child. And he mentioned being a nurse when they encourage him to dress up like that. So I love that he's all in on the Spider gig and has made it a bit of his persona.

00:47:45
Speaker 1: If you were to take a superhero and turn your car into an homage of one of them, which one do you think you would do?

00:47:55
Speaker 2: My favorite superhero are ninja turtles superheroes because I was a big ninja turtle guy growing up. Maybe I could have some kind of pizza car I had like a pizza shooter. If I could get some kind of Ninja turtle pizza setup, I would really be killing it.

00:48:11
Speaker 1: I like that question. Are Ninja turtles superheroes?

00:48:15
Speaker 6: They are?

00:48:15
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say yes, where not the Marvel Verse that's taken over the world, but that's what I grew up on.

00:48:22
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I've gone to the tape. I'm gonna say that teenage mutant Ninja turtles are superheroes. And I think if there's one thing women would like, it is someone who drives around in a teenage mutant Ninja turtle car.

00:48:35
Speaker 2: Calabunga, dude. I might even do this anyway this in the podcast a bit. I might dress up my Toyota Hoglander to be the Ninja turtle car.

00:48:43
Speaker 1: There was a time that the only four artists in history I could name were Leonardo, michel Angelo, Rafael, and Donna Tello. And I actually think Rafael was the big winner there, because I think if not for the Mutant Ninja Turtles, I don't think anybody would remember the art of Raffael. You know, Leonardo da Vinci, he had his own people know him, Michael Angelo, you know, even Donna Tello. People might Persachi sort of took his name later, but I think Raffael owes a lot of his current When I go to Europe and I see a Rafael painting, I'm like, cow obuma, dude, there you go. So I think he owes a lot of thanks to the turtles.

00:49:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was also a time when I can only name four artists because of the turtles, and it's right now currently there's still the only four I can name.

00:49:31
Speaker 1: You can't wait a minute, Come on, you can't name any other famous artist. Let's see, can you get can you give me? Can you give me three?

00:49:40
Speaker 7: Give me?

00:49:40
Speaker 1: Give me three more famous Drew Franklin endorsed artist.

00:49:44
Speaker 2: The fifth Ninja Turtle would have been Pablo or Picasso, because he's an artist, right, that's true.

00:49:49
Speaker 1: Picasso should have been well, Pablo would have been.

00:49:51
Speaker 2: A good name, been a great turtle. Maybe they can He wasn't.

00:49:54
Speaker 1: He wasn't from the Renaissance. They probably left him out for that reason. But who else? Can you do? Two more? Uh?

00:50:00
Speaker 2: Banksy Banks? He count big Banks fan anto turtle. He was younger than the turtles, though unfortunately he.

00:50:12
Speaker 1: Does live in the sewer.

00:50:13
Speaker 2: Though yeah, I'm onto something here.

00:50:16
Speaker 1: Well, actually I don't know if he lives in the sewer. He paints in the sewer. That's be rude to say he lives there anyone else I'm giving you You've got six. That's the guy that does the tomato can.

00:50:26
Speaker 2: Do you know that's that's Warhol, Andy Warhol.

00:50:30
Speaker 1: I am look at that.

00:50:32
Speaker 2: Dona Tello is still the best, still the best.

00:50:35
Speaker 1: Very prasive. Saw the door, Dolly. That would be the next one you could have put in. He did a lot of thing.

00:50:41
Speaker 2: Bob Ross, Yes, I count.

00:50:47
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take I'll take Bob Ross. All right, let's talk about some games this week. We'll start Thursday night. Commanders and Packers, uh By.

00:50:56
Speaker 2: Definitely, especially uh Packers with all their news recently and how good they looked last week. Commanders looked good last week. I I know they played the Giants, but outside of the Eagles, these are two teams to watch the NFC. We're gonna be in Week two standalone game on prime time. I'm really looking forward to it.

00:51:12
Speaker 1: Who you like? Well, first of all, who would you rather have? Long term? I say, tomorrow you get to start a franchise. I will give you either Jaden Daniels or Jordan.

00:51:23
Speaker 2: Love Who you take it today? Jadon Daniels because last season was so awesome, but as this year goes on Jordan Love could pass him. But right now that rookie season Jayden Daniels had was pretty amazing. And then last week again the Giants, but he look good doing it again. So I lean Daniels, but I am very high on Jordan Love too. These are these guys in the future.

00:51:46
Speaker 1: Your upside is with Jaden Daniels because he looks like he could be amazing. But there's still a possibility that you could have a regression like c. J. Stroud. I mean, his game last week wasn't you know, it wasn't like crazy. I tend to say, don't put too much stock in week one. Going into the season, I would have said Jade and Daniels. So I'm still gonna say Jade and Daniels. But Jordan Love, I mean, if he gets if he's ninety percent of what he was last Sunday, I think you could make the argument that he is. Plus you still have Jaden Daniels on a rookie deal, and I think that makes a big impact. However, this week, where is the game? Said Lambo, Yeah, then I got to take I think I'm about to take Jordan Love at home short week. That's a big thing to me. When you the home team on Thursday Night has a huge advantage. So I'm going to take Jordan Love and the Packers.

00:52:39
Speaker 2: I like the Packers here too. Heck, I might have even taken him if the Commanders were home. Even though I'm high on the Commanders, I still think the Packers are going to be elite this season. Probably get a little more Michael Parson. I noticed you mentioned he knows about eighty percent of the playbook and he's still trying to play the new guy role. But Michael Parson is still Michael Parson. I think they're gonna win Thursday.

00:53:01
Speaker 1: Night Eagles Chiefs. I'm surprised this game Sunday four thirty. That's like when I was a kid, didn't they You know, eight o'clock has been getting kind of the best games for a while. Now you get a Sunday four to thirty Super Bowl rematch in Kansas City. I think the environment's going to be unbelievable. Game's also important though for Kansas City after losing in Week one. Historically, when you have a Super Bowl rematch, I think the last seven or eight times the team that lost in the Super Bowl has won like five of the last seven. So do you like the Chiefs at home to beat the Eagles juggernaut?

00:53:39
Speaker 2: Even though the Eagles were my number one power ring team just earlier in this show. I think the Chiefs get them at home. We're gonna get a laser focused Travis Kelce because of his big goof last week. Chiefs can't go oh to two. They don't even know what that means in Kansas City, so it's a kind of a must win game for them. Already getting back to Arrowhead for the first game of the year, I still think they're lost in Brazil says more about the Chargers being good than it does the Chiefs go in the other direction. So I will say the Chiefs in a very close one, get the Eagles back in this game.

00:54:09
Speaker 1: The history of teams that go oh and too making the playoffs is not good. I mean it's I don't know what the number is, but I feel like we say it every year on ESPN. It's a very small number of teams that go oh to two and end up making the playoffs. I think the Chiefs are gonna be one of them, though I think they're gonna lose this week. I think there's gonna be a come to Jesus moment. The probably is you're probably not gonna have Xavior Worthy. You're not gonna have a sheet Rice for six weeks. So they still I mean, they're kind of now back to where they were last year without having a receiver. I think by the end of the year that won't be as big of an issue, but it is an issue right now. So I'm going to take the Eagles to win. I would love to go to that game, though, I think it'll be I mean that app we've been to Chiefs games. That atmosphere will be amazing. I'm sure they're gonna they're gonna want revenge, but I think the Eagles take the victory. My Bears go to Detroit to play the Lions in a game where the loser is oh win two and probably two games back in the division. Dan Campbell says this is a must win. We cannot lose this game. Will they find a way to pull it out?

00:55:14
Speaker 2: I think so. Kind of like the Chiefs, this is one they really need to win. Your Bears. I hate to say it with you looking at me on this screen, but I don't know if the Caleb Williams experiment. It's going to be what you all want it to be.

00:55:28
Speaker 1: So I, oh, you're you're already out on Caleb Williams.

00:55:31
Speaker 2: I was never really all the way in. I was still like, okay, we'll give him some time. I'll give him a little more time. But with the way the Lions lost last week and how dialed in, they will be like the Chiefs and I go down. I want to I like Detroit here, I'm not out.

00:55:46
Speaker 1: But he's got to make those throws right like I mean when you when you go back and look, he had throws that if he makes them, the Bears win the game. There was a third down where he had a guy open over the middle, just overshot him. If he makes it, the Bears probably get a field at least a field goal. That was I think the play right before the guy missed the field goal to go up I guess to go up fourteen. So I think the lines win. I thought that was a really poor effort from Detroit with the new coordinators, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt until week two. But the Bears win this game, then I do think you have to go look at Dan Campbell and say, wait a minute. Was it you or was it Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn?

00:56:29
Speaker 2: No doubt they looked so bad last week. That was one of the best offenses a year ago. Couldn't get anything done. If they can't beat the Bears, you're at home. I think it's a horrible look for Dan Campbell and the team that does lose. This talk about going down oh and two, you're oh and two in your division in this game. The teams opened up last week playing division opponents.

00:56:49
Speaker 1: The AFCs has two games against each other. The Buffalo Bills are at the Jets. New England is at Miami. All right, ohen one, that's both teams in these games in division. Let's start with New England and Miami. Is this a loser is out in week two?

00:57:09
Speaker 2: Oh yeah?

00:57:09
Speaker 7: Yeah?

00:57:10
Speaker 2: Especially if it's Miami. You're at home. If it looks anything like the game did last week at Indy, If you're not scoring points with two in that offense, I think it's into the road, certainly for the Miami in this year. And the McDaniel conversation is that seat as hot as it can get if you can't play better at home against the Patriots after they didn't look too great last week.

00:57:32
Speaker 1: I thought Drake May, though looked bad last week. I mean Drake May had a lot of opportunities for place he couldn't make. There were people who were saying poor man's Josh Allen, I mean, really poor mate, like being a different way, different tax bracket for him. I think the Patriots win. But this to me is a whoever loses this game, I'm scratching out of the playoff hun This is really the only one. But because they both looked so inapt last week in games that they I think they should have won. If you lose again, especially if you lose an AFT, I'm scratching you off.

00:58:09
Speaker 3: Now.

00:58:10
Speaker 1: Buffalo is at the Jets. I thought the Jets looked as good in defeat as you could. To be honest with you, any chance they can pull off the upset at home against Buffalo, a team I think they've only beaten once in like the last six years.

00:58:22
Speaker 2: I don't have the upset, but I have them covering the touchdown spread and making this a game. I think you're gonna get a little bit of a Bills hangover, a little bit of it's the Jets. And then the Jets got that little taste of success last week and got it ripped away. That was one of the best offenses all weekend. They just couldn't get a win out of it. I think the Jets are going to be better than people expect and that this one will come down to the wire. The Bills will still win, but I think we finally have a competitive Jets Bills game for the first time in a while.

00:58:48
Speaker 1: Okay, see, I couldn't disagree with you more on what it's going to be. What's the spread because.

00:58:52
Speaker 2: My seven and a half and then where you look the touchdown.

00:58:56
Speaker 1: I'm definitely teasing it, but I probably will load up on the Bills. I think they destroy it. I think this is one of those where the Jets had a great game, but people now feel too good about it. I've been part of the Justin Fields experience, right.

00:59:14
Speaker 2: Even though I'm calling for a close game here, I know I'm kind of bought into the field type in week one, and I fully acknowledge that I will not be surprised if on Sunday's episode we're talking about the Bills winning forty two to six. But I'm gonna give the Jets a week.

00:59:30
Speaker 1: By the way Sunday's episode. I will be in Johannesburg, South Africa, which is really good for NFL games. They have a really good package down there. I'm being able to watch. But for people who don't know, maybe new to this podcast or US, I am going to South Africa for two and a half weeks. I've talked with folks around the NFL. They say I can watch the games down there. They gave me like this whole code and system. But we'll see. I'm gonna go to sports bars throughout Johannesburg. If I can't find them, I will watch them here on my ped.

01:00:06
Speaker 2: Well, we'll be ready to on the end here in the studio on Lexington, we'll be ready to figure this out. However it's gonna run, We'll get through it.

01:00:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited. You know how many how many podcasts do you think have ever been done from South Africa about the NFL? Ever before you think any?

01:00:23
Speaker 2: If they have, they didn't make it to my radar, certainly not. I don't think it's through on the sports charts. Yes, and by the way, thank you to folks. We got all the way up to number two. Stupid Pablo Torre had to break a big story and stay number one. But we got all the way up to number two on the charts, and that's because of.

01:00:41
Speaker 1: All you all and our first our last episode was in the top one hundred on episodes, which I think is a really good sign. So please tell your friends about it, and tell and rate and subscribe.

01:00:51
Speaker 2: Now, if Billy could have broken that Kawhi Leonard scoop, we would have been number one. You could have done it.

01:00:55
Speaker 1: Billy Billy had it, But Billy Billy had Billy's scoop was about Tate Ratleedge, and we didn't want to make you mad, so we didn't do it. Three games with teams that are one and oh, the winner will go to two and oh and probably be a little bit of a surprise. You just quickly tell me which one's gonna win. Broncos Colts, who goes to two and oh? Broncos.

01:01:17
Speaker 2: The Colts had a lot of fun last week, But I just can't believe in Daniel Jones until I've seen it a few more times.

01:01:23
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the game is in Indianapolis, though I'm gonna say Colts. I'm gonna say Danny Dimes goes to two and oh. They're a train and you need to get on at Jaguars are at Cincy Cincinnati Bengals home opener. What you got.

01:01:39
Speaker 2: Bengals might have been my disappointment of the week last week that I want. They have like one hundred and forty yards total offense. One hundred and eighty something. Crazy for that offense. They have to bounce back this week. I think it'll be a big Burrough Chase game. Bengals.

01:01:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me the bounce back. Jaguars look too good, Cincinnati looked too bad. The Bengals get the win, and unlike most years where they go in two, in my opinion, they go to and Oh and then the Chargers and the Raiders a crazy game for first place in the a FC West. The Raiders looked really good. For the Chargers, they won't have had a home game yet, I don't think it matters. Sometimes it's worse for them at home. So who you got? This one's tough for me. It's almost a coin flip.

01:02:18
Speaker 2: I bet against the Raiders last week in New England. They proved me wrong real quick. But I'm pretty high on the Chargers, and not just because of that game in Brazil. I thought ailly of them for the season began. Then Herbert proved proved to be great in that game when he have like three hundred yards three touchdowns against the Chiefs. I'll go Chargers here, but tip of the cap for the Raiders. They're gonna be better than I expected.

01:02:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go Chargers as well. Do you think justin Herbert, do you think that if he walked down the street in New York City anyone would stop him?

01:02:55
Speaker 2: Unlikely? I saw, I saw he's got a new model girlfriend. Is she walking with him?

01:03:00
Speaker 1: Maybe?

01:03:01
Speaker 2: Maybe if she's there, but Herbert alone?

01:03:02
Speaker 1: The model? Who's the model girlfriend?

01:03:05
Speaker 2: Massive beer?

01:03:06
Speaker 1: Her Who's that?

01:03:08
Speaker 2: I don't know? But the internet model.

01:03:12
Speaker 1: I feel like I've heard her.

01:03:13
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, she's I think she sings her singing at one point, has a song, maybe in a.

01:03:18
Speaker 1: Movie as a career, or like you've heard her singing at her church. I believe she broke in as a singer. But then you know she's everything now regardless she's not ugly, she's everything. I've never heard of her. How can she be everything? Heard brtil this week and then I saw her everything or she's nothing?

01:03:39
Speaker 2: I just know how the Internet reacted to Herbert taking her out to eat after he beat the Chiefs. So it seems like the new it couple in La after he took down my homes?

01:03:48
Speaker 1: How can they be think? I don't know who she is? What does she told me what she does?

01:03:52
Speaker 2: No, I'm telling you I don't know either. But it's a big deal we need to learn. This is the new it couple in the NFL, behind.

01:03:58
Speaker 1: That Taylor and I'm going to look her up. Billy. By the way, this is who you have to get as our guest next week.

01:04:04
Speaker 2: Is the alternate sate Ratley if you get hur for this.

01:04:08
Speaker 1: Madison Beer is a singer. There you go. She's an American singer. It says she used to she got covers with Justin Bieber posted a link to one of her songs. That's her second sentence on her Wikipedia is that Justin Bieber posted her song? So you're right. She's a singer. And she also has appeared on Ruth Paul's Drag Race.

01:04:32
Speaker 2: And now with Justin Herbert on the streets at La.

01:04:36
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, well, there you go. Well, congrats to her, and congrats to Justin not Justin Bieber, Justin Herbert. Maybe she has a thing for Justin. Just Here Trudeau could be a good year for Justin. Justin Trudeau will be next, all right, Finally, most people won't care, but you will. The Rams play at the Titans, a rematch of the Super Bowl that haunts your world? Are you going to be in Nashville to watch it?

01:05:02
Speaker 7: No?

01:05:04
Speaker 2: Just Titans, Rams in the same s. It haunts me. It takes me back to two thousand. We all know the one yard stop on the Super Bowl, lowest moment of my sports fandom. I don't love that they're on the schedule this year. It's in Nashville. One of my best friends as a Rams fan, I actually skipped his Super Bowl party in high school during that game. He wants me to meet him in Nashville, Skylar, I love you not doing it, staying away from it.

01:05:25
Speaker 1: You're not going to go? No, that's brutal.

01:05:27
Speaker 2: If there's any any sports trauma that I carry with me, it's Kentucky basketball with Wisconsin, and it's the Rams Titan Super Bowl. Those two still hurt me where Jesus lives, and I'm just not ready to walk into a stadium where both of those teams are on the field, hurts you where Jesus lives, right right in the heart, the same it hurts you where Jesus lives. It's been twenty five years since that game. I still can't even look at the Rams and the Titans. Jersey's hanging up on a shelf next to each other.

01:06:00
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was the same. I'm gonna have to start saying that hurts you where Jesus lives, right, Okay, Well, I'm gonna take the Rams as well. I think they're good. That Texans game was really boring. I think this game will be boring too. But I think the Rams win in Nashville.

01:06:17
Speaker 2: Got over his back problems too.

01:06:19
Speaker 1: That's good. That's good they had. Yeah, I told you, just one shot and they'll be He'll be ready. Go. It'll hurt. It hurt the rest of the week, I'm sure. But for that, for that part of the game, uh, it did not. Now we're doing a Survivor league here on on NFL Cover zero. All three of our teams won. I had the Broncos. They were able to win in a close game against the Titans. Commanders beat the Giants, and then Billy kind of went off the grid a little bit and took the Jaguars and ended up getting it. So let's I picked first last time, Drew, you get to pick first this time? Which team would you like? You cannot pick the Commanders. Yeah, I have one.

01:07:00
Speaker 2: I think I'm about to say out loud, and it's going to be one where when we leave and I get in my car, I'm going to go, that was so dumb, but I'm gonna do it. I'm taking the Cowboys versus the Giants.

01:07:11
Speaker 1: Really, you're picking the Cowboys versus the Giants.

01:07:15
Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with the Cowboys. I think the Giants suck and they're going with Russell worked again. So I'm putting my faith in the Giants sucking more than the Cowboys doing well.

01:07:25
Speaker 1: It's a shocking pick to me this early in the year.

01:07:29
Speaker 2: I'm aware. That's why when I get in my car, I'm probably gonna go that was a bad idea of believing in the Cowboys on anything. But I think the Giants are a mess right now, and before they switch to Jackson Dart, I'm gonna expect a loss.

01:07:44
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Billy, you're next. You cannot pick the Jaguars. Tell who you got that.

01:07:49
Speaker 3: Was on my list, so I thought that was a good picture. I am gonna go off the beaten path as well. I'm taking the Cardinals at home versus the Panthers. Picking swift Cardinals.

01:08:01
Speaker 1: Panthers is like that is a game that is made.

01:08:05
Speaker 8: For They it over to Met Sarkesian and the Panthers are up six with two mans to go, and Kyler Murray's driving, like you're really gonna do that?

01:08:13
Speaker 3: Giving a little Kyler Murray the chance to prove us wrong. He hasn't been playing video games. He's been studying his playbook. If you're looking at if you look at the point spreads, that one's a lot better man. That's a touchdown and a half. Mine's only three points.

01:08:25
Speaker 1: Those are both shocking to me, Like there is not a world I would have picked either one of those. Well, okay, so if i'd picked first, I was gonna pick this one. You all left it for me, which I cannot believe. I thought it would be gone. I mean, give me the Ravens at home against Cleveland. If you're gonna see.

01:08:41
Speaker 2: I don't want to waste the Ravens. I gotta save the Ravens.

01:08:44
Speaker 1: Immate, You're gonna be gone before you have a chance to waste them. I mean, like you're gonna be out.

01:08:48
Speaker 3: That's a divisional matchup.

01:08:49
Speaker 2: Mat those games canna be close.

01:08:51
Speaker 1: What's the spread on it?

01:08:53
Speaker 2: Ten on Brown's Ravens. Yeah, let's look, I don't have that one in front of me.

01:08:59
Speaker 1: It's gotta be a big number.

01:09:00
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean it won't be. Oh yeah, that's a big number. Twelve and a half.

01:09:08
Speaker 1: Twelve and a half. Come on, that's easy. I mean, yes, there is an argument to save teams, but saving for what I mean, you want to get them in a circumstance where you feel comfortable they're gonna win. Is there an easier game on the schedule this year for the Ravens than Browns at home? I mean, I don't think there is.

01:09:24
Speaker 2: So I don't like picking the most obvious for that realon, I like, if I'm gonna win, I'm gonna need a good team at the end of the survivor if I'm gonna lose by not losing week two, you know you got gamble early, save the good time because it's fun.

01:09:34
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, there's only three of us, so it doesn't take long to survive. Yeh, who do you think you're going against? Rue? I mean three, I'm just sitting there.

01:09:46
Speaker 2: Well I know, but I mean in case we get to that point, I'd rather have the Ravens, the Bills, the Chiefs available lighter in the year.

01:09:52
Speaker 1: I think there is a twenty seven percent chance I win this week and it's over in week two. Okay, Now we do our anybody score touchdown time, you get to pick. Remember we divide him into quarterback, wide receiver, slash tidy and running back. So Billy or so Drew went first. Last week he picked in Djoku. He cannot picking Joco again the rest of the season. Billy, you picked McCaffrey as a running back. You can still pick another running back, but you go first. He can pick any position you want. What do you got?

01:10:28
Speaker 2: Okay?

01:10:29
Speaker 3: I am going to go with the Colts Jonathan Taylor to score against the Denver Broncos. I really like what Daniel Jones and the Colts did. Jonathan Taylor is the workhorse. Give me a touchdown for JT.

01:10:42
Speaker 2: Billy. Right here in my notes, I wrote down one player for my pick.

01:10:45
Speaker 9: There's Jonathan Tylor. You took the one I wrote down there. Yeah, said, I didn't see that beforehand. No, so thank you for taking my one. Thank you interesting Jonathan Taylor.

01:10:56
Speaker 2: He didn't score like night.

01:10:57
Speaker 1: So you so you pick. So you've picked a running back. So now I either have to pick a quarterback or wide receiver. And whatever I don't pick is what Drew will have to pick. So I used Jalen Hurts last week. It worked. That's why I have a one nothing lead on everyone. So I'm gonna have to go a different direction. I'm sitting here looking you know again. If if you're gonna leave it for me and I get to pick him, I might as well go all in on the Ravens and I'll go ahead and use Lamar. At this point, uh to score against the against the Browns. So give me Lamar to try to get another win. I'll take another quarterback. That means Drew, for the second straight week, you're gonna have to pick a wide receiver or a tight end. What do you got?

01:11:42
Speaker 2: I considered Harold Finn and Junior from Bowling Green, But then.

01:11:44
Speaker 1: I looked at the odds.

01:11:46
Speaker 2: I looked at the odd No, and Joe CU's the favorite. I'm not doing that again. So Brown's I eliminated. I am gonna go with the player I just mentioned that did nothing last week. There's no way Jamar Chase is going to be that quiet in week two. He had two catches last week in Cleveland. Burrow and Chase are having a big game. I'll have to take him as my wide receivers. Get a touchdown, all right.

01:12:05
Speaker 1: So Joe so Drew uses Jamar Chase for his one time this year, Billy uses Jonathan Taylor, and I will use Lamar Jackson. So I get on a plane Friday. It is a fifteen hour and forty minute flight to Johannesburg, South Africa, and then I will be joining you all on Sunday for Week two after the after the afternoon games.

01:12:32
Speaker 2: Guys, I look forward to it. Looking forward to it too. I'm sure we'll won't have any technical difficulties at all. None, sure, none. I'm hoping there's like elephants walking around behind you on the screen while we're talking to you.

01:12:43
Speaker 1: Also, yeah, well I'm going to be I think I'm gonna be in the city that day, so I don't expect to say I mean, there'll be real problems if I see elephants that day, but when we go out into the reserve in a couple of weeks, it should be that there's a possibility of that. Thank you again, everybody. Thanks to First Lady and Brown Spider. You can follow them brown Spider Clee on Twitter. Please subscribe, live rate the podcast. Keep telling your friends we'll see you later at the c NFL Cover zero. NFL Covers Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcast. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.