The Queen of Confidence Serena F*ing Kerrigan

Untraditionally Lala

The Queen of Confidence, Serena F’ing Kerrigan is the on the pod, and she’s dishing on how we can all be bad-ass, confident bitches! The creator of the “Let’s F*cking Date” card games shares all the details surrounding her Instagram Live dating show during COVID, the inspiration for her legendary games, and how to live your best life! Plus, the inaugural “Give Them Lala Tour” has wrapped, and Lala has all the feels about her first time on the road, along with some news about potential future dates!

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2022-05-18 49 min Transcript

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00:00:05
Speaker 1: Below my gorgeous people.

00:00:07
Speaker 2: It's Lala Kent welcome back to give them Lalla podcast. We are back in La We are finished with the tour.

00:00:15
Speaker 1: I kind of feel bummed about it.

00:00:17
Speaker 3: I know it's really now that we're like, because I feel like, towards the end of the tour, we're like, Okay, this has been it was amazing, but we're like, I mean, you were like, it's time to get back and see ocean. But now, like the day after I woke up and I was like, oh no, I know.

00:00:32
Speaker 1: It was weird. It was like bittersweet.

00:00:34
Speaker 2: I was excited to come home and be with my baby because I hadn't seen her.

00:00:38
Speaker 1: In almost two weeks.

00:00:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, which you know, selfishly I wanted her with me on tour, but it was way too many dates to like in different places to bounce her around, and even just that you know, to three hour time change was like messing with me.

00:00:57
Speaker 3: Well that would yeah, that would mess with her schedule and all of that. So we did nine shows in eleven days. Now that it's over, how do you feel about it?

00:01:07
Speaker 2: Now that I can look back on it. It was one of the most unbelievable experiences that I'll probably ever have. And it's because when you get to see people face to face that have supported you, it gets emotional. Yeah, Like there were people that would you know that we're in VIP that would come around, you know, the little what's that background, like the seven heat thing and sob and like share their stories with me. One woman and I will protect what she what she told me, but it was along the lines of your daughter saved my life. And then she told me the story and we both were sobbing. Yeah, and I just was like, how incredible that I get to do this and that these people have allowed me to do it for a really long time.

00:02:04
Speaker 1: And I always.

00:02:07
Speaker 2: Think about, and I talked about this at the live show, that I would think about, you know, when I was in Utah on the couch with hopes and dreams those intel like winning oscars, that God had a different plan and that I was happy and I am happy that God did have another plan for me because me sharing my stories, whether they're amazing or deep. Like one woman stood up and she was like, you got me out of a narcissistic relationship and I need to know how.

00:02:39
Speaker 1: To bounce back.

00:02:42
Speaker 2: I signed people's AA books. What the fuck that's what this life is about, you know who.

00:02:49
Speaker 4: Was really beautiful to watch.

00:02:50
Speaker 3: And you know, I remember before the tour when you know, we're like talking about it and planning it, and I kept saying like, well, what do you want out of this? And you always went back to like, no matter what, I want to connect with the people who've supported me.

00:03:04
Speaker 4: Like that's number one. Always keep that at number one.

00:03:06
Speaker 3: When we were talking about different segments, you always were like, okay, but like, you know, interaction and all this with the people who attend. And it was really cool to watch you stick with that because I think a lot of people I've gone to plenty of tours of people, I'm a fan of many of many people, and it's I think it was really special to watch you keep that number one, that interaction with the people who have supported you and like literally walk out and like talk to them and share stories and spend time getting to know those people.

00:03:42
Speaker 2: And I thought it was really nice, really beautiful. Well thank you, Yeah, was always the goal of the tour. We accomplished it above and beyond. I mean people were saying, I really can't believe you spent that much time with us in like people that paid for VIP, which and I told this, you know, you could have spent your money anywhere. You guys work really hard and you could have literally chosen to spend your money on anything. Yeah, and you chose to spend it to come and like hang out with me.

00:04:11
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:04:12
Speaker 2: The least I can do is like sit here and thank you for coming and ask you about your day and you know, what are you about?

00:04:19
Speaker 1: Like, that's what the tour was for.

00:04:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm not having you come on back to look at me, take a quick pick, sign my name on your book, and call it a day.

00:04:29
Speaker 1: This is the chance for us to like connect for real. And you did and it was really did the damn you did?

00:04:36
Speaker 3: And you know what too, It's like I thought I was prepared because I mean, there's always like a dud, I feel like in every group. So I was prepared to like, like, there's gonna be you know, maybe a Heckler or two in every city, there's gonna be a negative Nancy or some whatever, And there literally was not one in one city.

00:04:56
Speaker 2: No, even when we were in Austin, and the day that I that we were in Austin, that was a very that day, a lot of troubling shit was brought to my attention. Yeah, it was dark and disgusting, and I had to handle shit and still go and you know, do the show and be lalla so at the end because my mind was a little bit fogged towards the end just with everything that I was thinking about. You know, I was very in the moment during the show because I know how to compartmentalize. But at the end when I was like saying my goodbyes and thank you, I accidentally thanked Houston, Texas and we were in Austin, and I literally just like put the mic down.

00:05:46
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck? And I was like, you guys can boom me if you.

00:05:51
Speaker 3: Feel Yeah, you said that, and I was backstage, so I heard Lalla go. You guys can boom me if you want. And I'm like, what is going on out there? And I asked you after the show, I'm like, did.

00:06:00
Speaker 1: They boo you?

00:06:01
Speaker 4: And You're like no.

00:06:01
Speaker 1: They all laughed. They laughed and clapped and they were like we love you. And I was like, I'm so sorry.

00:06:06
Speaker 2: I do know where I am and I had just gotten done telling them I'm moving to Austin. Yeah, if I get the opportunity and the stars are aligned. I'm coming to Austin, Texas. Yeah, and they're all going crazy. And I was like, anyway, I love you guys so much, thank you for coming.

00:06:22
Speaker 1: I love you Houston.

00:06:26
Speaker 4: They were such they were so good about it though.

00:06:29
Speaker 1: They were amazing about that.

00:06:30
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:06:30
Speaker 4: I'm going to ask a.

00:06:33
Speaker 3: What's the word A whatever question? I don't know what the way I love whatever questions. Jes my brain is off right now.

00:06:41
Speaker 4: But do you have a favorite city on tour? What is it you do?

00:06:49
Speaker 5: Yeah?

00:06:49
Speaker 2: Spell, I loved I loved all the cities, okay, but my favorite. I loved the Texas to the Texas dates were great.

00:07:02
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:07:02
Speaker 2: I just love Texas because it reminds me. It gives me the happy medium, because you know, I come from Utah, Yeah, and then you moved to La way different and then you go to a place like Austin, Texas and you're like, oh my gosh, this is the happy medium.

00:07:18
Speaker 1: Holy shit. I love it here.

00:07:20
Speaker 4: It's great.

00:07:21
Speaker 2: Every city was amazing though, and every city had the best people.

00:07:26
Speaker 1: I think, so nice.

00:07:28
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:07:28
Speaker 4: I can say this because it's me, not you.

00:07:30
Speaker 3: I think, in my opinion, I think Clearwater's audience was lit.

00:07:36
Speaker 2: Clearwater's audience was lit, and that was one of the funniest shows Clearwater.

00:07:41
Speaker 3: And then Dallas was like to me, Dallas' audience was unbeatable.

00:07:46
Speaker 4: Like, you guys came out.

00:07:47
Speaker 3: I think you all knew it was the last show, and you're like, we are going to give her or we're gonna like make it the time of everyone's lives. And you guys were wild.

00:07:57
Speaker 1: They were wild.

00:07:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, But in Austin, Austin was we saw titties, We saw titties. Three to one girl stood up and showed me her boom and I was like.

00:08:11
Speaker 1: Oh damn, she's showing boobies.

00:08:13
Speaker 2: And then another girl felt like she needed to compete, so she pulled out both her boobs and I just ran around the stage because I felt like a superstar.

00:08:22
Speaker 1: I was like, holy, I'm a rock star.

00:08:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, only rock stars have hot women flashing their tits.

00:08:29
Speaker 1: Yep. By the way, every city too had like gorgeous people.

00:08:34
Speaker 4: You guys looked amazing, Daming.

00:08:36
Speaker 1: It all looked so amazing.

00:08:37
Speaker 2: I almost felt like, why the fuck didn't you pull it together a little more lot, But then my excuse was like gotta hawk this March.

00:08:46
Speaker 1: We have to, that's true.

00:08:48
Speaker 4: No, but everyone looked so good. You guys are all drunk.

00:08:50
Speaker 3: I was like noting outfits in my head to copy same.

00:08:55
Speaker 1: I did that.

00:08:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, okay, noting.

00:08:57
Speaker 3: But also I feel like Clearwater audience didn't know this, or maybe you said it you Clearwater was the first show you didn't have a guest, right, you were a little nervous about that.

00:09:07
Speaker 1: I was about to vomit.

00:09:08
Speaker 3: Yes, So then when you came out and not only were they like I remember when you announced not having a guest, they were like.

00:09:15
Speaker 2: We don't care.

00:09:19
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, I love you guys.

00:09:20
Speaker 3: It was just like I think it was just really unexpectedly, like beyond what we expected, you know.

00:09:27
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, and I thought the dates that we had guests for we're gonna be the better dates. I almost feel like the ones we didn't have guests for were equal, if not better, because I got to interact with the audience more. Yes, Yes, which is what I wanted, you know, even though like it was my show, I kind of felt like it was our show, like we're here kicking it and having a good time.

00:09:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like that's how a lot of people felt and you spilled tea Like. There were times where I was like, oh my god, I can't believe she just said. Oh.

00:09:58
Speaker 1: There's so many times where I'm like fuck. And you know in the meet and greets of the like VIP.

00:10:02
Speaker 2: Of twenty where there were only like twenty five at most and they weren't allowed to have their phones. Yeah, and I just shared my whole life story.

00:10:13
Speaker 3: Do you think you I think it was great? Do you think you will do it again?

00:10:17
Speaker 5: Yes?

00:10:17
Speaker 2: I want to do it again. Yeah, yes, I want to do it again. I now know the drill, I now know what to pack.

00:10:23
Speaker 1: Yeh.

00:10:23
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

00:10:24
Speaker 3: I literally ran out of clothes within six days.

00:10:28
Speaker 2: I can't even talk about it because I like the only sweatsuit I wore was I've taken up reading books. Yeah, thank god it was cute because and I always felt cute. I washed it twice. The first time, thank god we had a washer and dryer in the room. The second time I called downstairs and was like, can you wash this and get it back to me by like stop?

00:10:51
Speaker 5: Yeah?

00:10:51
Speaker 1: And they did it. No, they did it. And I can't remember where we were. The first wash win near water. The first wash was clear. Water. Remember what the room looked like. I couldn't tell you the city.

00:11:03
Speaker 4: It was probably Texas.

00:11:05
Speaker 1: It was after New Orleans was Oh, was Madison there?

00:11:09
Speaker 4: It was probably Texas because it went to Nashville.

00:11:12
Speaker 1: No Graduate, Graduate, it was Nashville.

00:11:16
Speaker 3: Oh that's so great. Oh and we had two days there, so that would make sense.

00:11:20
Speaker 1: Yes, that's where it was.

00:11:22
Speaker 3: Well, shout out to the graduate for washing La Las No too, I know that's amazing. Wait, in the last episode you were recording from the graduate. Yes, that's hilarious.

00:11:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, they washed it for me, so it did get two good washes, and then luckily matt our tour manager, gave me a second second set.

00:11:43
Speaker 1: So I just like alternated between the two.

00:11:46
Speaker 4: That's so funny. So you would do it again?

00:11:48
Speaker 1: I would do it again.

00:11:48
Speaker 3: Would you change anything? I mean, obviously it would be different, but like.

00:11:52
Speaker 1: I would change.

00:11:53
Speaker 2: I would want my baby with me and my mom okay, and then I would just venture into different cities and I would talk differently. And I would also would take a different hairbrush because the brush I had with me fucked my.

00:12:02
Speaker 4: Hair up, it did you guys? She showed me the brush she was using, and I was like, what you throw it away, Throw it away.

00:12:09
Speaker 3: And we do see your comments about coming to like the East Coast and New York and Boston and like we talk about it a lot.

00:12:16
Speaker 1: So that's all been noted already.

00:12:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, these these are the places that people are requesting, yeah, the most, and this is where we're going.

00:12:24
Speaker 1: So that's what we're doing.

00:12:24
Speaker 3: Oh and another thing that's so exciting while we were gone that we haven't talked about is vander Pump Rules is getting picked up again.

00:12:33
Speaker 2: My gosh, I had forgotten because I found a cube boy in Dallas and that's been consuming my time, but I forgotten that. Uh, season ten of Vanner Pump Rules has been picked up. Congrats to allow you.

00:12:47
Speaker 3: How do you feel about it and how do you feel like the season is gonna be filming and all of it.

00:12:54
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing is like, even though the show's been picked up, we as a cast, we don't know our fate, you know.

00:13:00
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's.

00:13:02
Speaker 2: Like the show's been picked up. We don't know if y'all will be a part of it. But Vanner Pump Roules is back. I mean, I have a hard time believing that, but I'm the type of person where I don't count my chickens before they hatch. Right, So I need someone to call me personally and say, we would like you back.

00:13:17
Speaker 1: On vander Pump Rules for season ten. Right, I get that. I think, do you what do you think?

00:13:22
Speaker 5: Well?

00:13:22
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, I think this season is going to be iconic. I think it's I mean, you have let's just I mean, we all know, we all know. There's been breakups, there's been drama, there's been this, there's been that. I think it's gonna be a wild season.

00:13:36
Speaker 1: I mean, Brock and Sheen are getting married.

00:13:38
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

00:13:39
Speaker 1: There's so much to talk.

00:13:41
Speaker 2: About, you know, and vander Pump Rules is a safe place for me to open up and share what my life is now like, right, you know, and diving back into I don't want to say diving back into my independence because that was never lost. It was heightened after everything. But it'll just be like a completely I haven't been single on vander Pump Rules since season four, my very first season. Yeah wow, you know, and now I'm going to be navigating like the dating world as a thirty one year old single mother of a you know, almost two year old. Yeah, well not almost if we start filming this summer should be like a year and a half.

00:14:24
Speaker 4: Year and a half.

00:14:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

00:14:26
Speaker 4: Does that make you nervous?

00:14:27
Speaker 3: Do you think you'll go or is it mostly excited and like cause to me, I think about that and I would be like, no, absolutely, are you joking?

00:14:35
Speaker 4: Cameras are going to be around while I'm.

00:14:36
Speaker 3: Like navigating dating and I haven't dated since the first season I was.

00:14:41
Speaker 1: On Ah, I see the stress in your face.

00:14:46
Speaker 4: Just oh my god.

00:14:47
Speaker 2: No, I don't think about it because I kind of forget that cameras are there. It's just like this is my I forget cameras are there when I'm over sharing, but I remember they're there when I found my angle, you know, like, can we get that camera to come in from the right side?

00:15:02
Speaker 1: I get that jaw line?

00:15:03
Speaker 2: Yep, my nose tilts real cute on that side.

00:15:07
Speaker 1: Yes, No, it's gonna be.

00:15:10
Speaker 2: I mean I should be, because who knows how they're gonna edit it together.

00:15:13
Speaker 1: But as long as they make a great TV show, then fuck it. I don't really care. Then you're good. But no, I'm excited. Yeah, I'm super excited.

00:15:20
Speaker 2: I just can I tell you I feel like I'll be back at it the second I find one dude who I go out with and we have fun, and I'm like, I feel like I'll be back to myself because you have to remember, like I don't really know if you put a dude in front of me to argue with, oh, I'd have no problem.

00:15:38
Speaker 1: I could do that. Yeah, nobody's business.

00:15:41
Speaker 5: Right.

00:15:41
Speaker 1: Have you heard that before? He does this like nobody's business? Yes?

00:15:44
Speaker 2: Okay, sure, yeah?

00:15:48
Speaker 4: Oh wait, really quick on that.

00:15:50
Speaker 3: I think I don't know if we kept it in, but the one thing was up in the night that Lala and her mom said, and the other thing was that I was trying to think of. They say Johnny on the Spot, so they'll be like he was like Johnny on the Spot. With that, I don't know a good example, but just to put that in there.

00:16:04
Speaker 1: It's a great example.

00:16:05
Speaker 3: Yess, he was Johnny on the Spot, like whatever, he was Johnny on the Spot to pick up that paycheck?

00:16:13
Speaker 1: Yes he was. Yes.

00:16:17
Speaker 4: Back to back to what you were saying.

00:16:20
Speaker 2: No, once I find that person where, oh, back to like I know how to argue with h yeah dude, yeah, I can do that, Like let's get it pop in yea.

00:16:28
Speaker 1: How to do that. I've been doing it for six years.

00:16:31
Speaker 2: But to be like emotionally connected and like express through like touch or communication, that's going to be different.

00:16:46
Speaker 1: I haven't done that in a while.

00:16:47
Speaker 2: But I feel like once I find that dude, even if it's just a guy that I'm hanging out with, you need to be serious, just a guy, I'll be back on the horse and I'll be back to being my Yeah, I'm excited.

00:17:02
Speaker 4: I'm excited. I think this season is going to be iconic. And I said that, but I really do.

00:17:08
Speaker 1: I found a cute boy in Dallas. By the way, the men in Dallas are fine, Oh my.

00:17:12
Speaker 3: The men in Texas, I've got to say, or at least the cities. We were in Houston, Dallas, Austin.

00:17:18
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I was like, what I want them all?

00:17:23
Speaker 4: And I saw this man and he is a cute guy.

00:17:28
Speaker 1: He was cute. He was like chilling.

00:17:31
Speaker 2: Said something to me right before I was going to go on stage, and I just, you know, was like, how old are you?

00:17:35
Speaker 1: He told me how old he was. I was like, you're really cute, and it was just like, let's talk, let's talk.

00:17:43
Speaker 3: No, he said what he did, and the listeners will appreciate that because the listeners brought you this man or the audience.

00:17:50
Speaker 2: No, it was literally right before I went on stage at House of Blues.

00:17:53
Speaker 3: His opening line, Talala was like, hey, is this your show? Because you're the audience members are awesome?

00:18:00
Speaker 4: Badass.

00:18:01
Speaker 1: He did say that.

00:18:02
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that.

00:18:03
Speaker 4: Was like his opening.

00:18:04
Speaker 3: So, whoever was there at the Dallas show, good for you for bringing Lalla this man.

00:18:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where it happened.

00:18:10
Speaker 4: He like popped in the back door. It was right when Laala was about to go on to say that.

00:18:15
Speaker 3: He must have like run into some of you or you all were just like being having a lot of fun out front before in line before you came in.

00:18:22
Speaker 4: But he popped in the back to say that to Lala.

00:18:24
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he was so cute.

00:18:27
Speaker 4: He was cute.

00:18:28
Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's that.

00:18:30
Speaker 4: So we'll see, maybe we'll have an update, maybe not.

00:18:32
Speaker 2: What a great way to close the tour, an epic audience, the best show and a fine man.

00:18:39
Speaker 4: Yeah right, yes.

00:18:42
Speaker 1: The best way.

00:18:43
Speaker 2: If that is the recipe for an epic finale show.

00:18:49
Speaker 4: That I agree, it's great. It was great.

00:18:53
Speaker 2: I'm excited for today's podcast guest. Her name is Serena Kerrigan. If you do not follow her on Instagram, it is a must right now because I thought that I was the Mother Teresa of spreading confidence.

00:19:07
Speaker 1: No, this bitch has me beat.

00:19:09
Speaker 2: I don't know if she labeled herself this or if other people did, but she is the Queen of confidence and I've been following her. I want to deep dive into like how she how she realized that you can bust through glass ceilings. I'm inspired by people like that who don't take no for an answer. Me too, and then find random shit and they're like, I think I'm going to do that and make money off of it, and then they do it and you're like, this is brilliant.

00:19:35
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:19:36
Speaker 2: She was like this card game that I really need her to tell me, Like, I just I've never met anyone in our age group that's like card game.

00:19:44
Speaker 1: She made a card game, Yes, like a dating card game.

00:19:47
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's so cool. Yeah, so I want to know about it, Yeah, because I may need them. They need these dating card games, you know. Yeah, me and I need a little guidance.

00:19:59
Speaker 1: So that's who's on the podcast.

00:20:01
Speaker 2: I just want to say thank you again to every single person who came out to any of the tour dates.

00:20:06
Speaker 1: You guys really do rock my world.

00:20:08
Speaker 2: I know, I get cheesy, I know I say it all the time, but you provided me with a life that I literally used to dream about, and without you, it would not be this way.

00:20:19
Speaker 1: So thank you for listening to my podcast. We will be right back with Serena Fucking Carigan.

00:20:30
Speaker 2: We're back my loves and I have the amazing Serena Karragan and I have to hi Babe for survive.

00:20:38
Speaker 1: Hi, thanks for coming on to give them Lalla podcast.

00:20:41
Speaker 2: I have to say, I'm like very intrigued by you.

00:20:45
Speaker 1: You're like NonStop.

00:20:47
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:20:47
Speaker 6: I just almost like cried in the middle of the meeting, So yeah.

00:20:51
Speaker 1: Did you really?

00:20:51
Speaker 5: Yes?

00:20:53
Speaker 1: What are you? Overwhelmed?

00:20:54
Speaker 6: Extremely well?

00:20:55
Speaker 2: I feel like with you, there's like no ceiling, like you're like ready to just take it all on.

00:21:01
Speaker 1: You don't say no.

00:21:02
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't and that can come with its own set.

00:21:05
Speaker 6: Of challenges, I know.

00:21:07
Speaker 2: And I first of all, so you're you're like the AKA Queen of confidence. Does that just come naturally to you or how did you label yourself that or did other people label you that?

00:21:20
Speaker 5: Oh? No, I think that like any label that I have is because I just created it for myself.

00:21:25
Speaker 1: So I love it.

00:21:26
Speaker 5: Anything that you want to be you can, you literally just have to decide, and you just say it was so much conviction that people eventually just start to believe you. I was someone who wasn't confident. I struggled a lot with my confidence growing up, and then I changed my meland to fucking and I said, it was so much conviction people believe me. And then I became really confident because I just kind of kept, you know, going back to that character or persona that I kept tapping into, and then I was like, you know what, fuck it, I'm going to be the Queen of confidence and I'm going to help other women and people, you know, feel confident about themselves. And so yeah, that's kind of how we got there.

00:22:01
Speaker 2: I love that because there are many times that people ask me how they can display the confidence I have, and I always say, you fake that shit until you actually wake up and feel it, and that's exactly what you did as well.

00:22:17
Speaker 5: Yes, and no, I don't really believe it's fake because I believe that we actually are born with confidence.

00:22:22
Speaker 1: I think you do.

00:22:24
Speaker 5: Yes, We're all born with confidence. I mean, think about when you were like four years old on a playground and someone pushed to you and kind of just got back up, and you like didn't think much about it. Like, I think that over time, as we become older, we've become kind of like infected by society and ideologies and beliefs of who we should be, what we should look like. And then that's why we begin to start to dislike ourselves because we don't feel like we measure up to certain beliefs or maybe if someone made a comment about us, or you know, we don't look like you know, characters on television.

00:22:56
Speaker 6: But we were born with confidence. We're not faking it.

00:22:59
Speaker 5: We're just kind of most reassessed, like we're uncovering it. It's like it was like infected and we're like kind of healing the wound and going back to who.

00:23:06
Speaker 6: We truly are, which is loving ourselves. I mean, that's what confidence is.

00:23:10
Speaker 5: It's loving yourself and nurturing yourself like you're your own best friend, believing in yourself. So it's kind of like unlearning and relearning, which in a way, like it's just it is in some ways like as okay, yes, was it fake? It till you make it. I don't really love the fake part because then it's.

00:23:26
Speaker 1: Like, right, I get that, But was.

00:23:28
Speaker 5: I channeling you know, a persona or someone that I didn't feel, Yes, was truly me? Sure, But I did it enough, and I did enough until I became that person, So I totally know what you mean. I just get careful over the word because when I tell people my number one piece of advice is you have to go to the mirror.

00:23:45
Speaker 6: I know when people talk to them themselves in the mirror, and I know when they don't, Like it's so obvious to maybe.

00:23:49
Speaker 2: Wait, tell me, tell me, tell me how you know someone who does and who doesn't?

00:23:53
Speaker 1: Like what are they till me?

00:23:54
Speaker 5: Someone who's insecure in whom someone who's not anyone who gets in the habit of literally like acknowledged loving, hyping themselves up, especially to a mirror. Right, Like it's like you have to look at yourself in the eyes you just have, like you access a different level of confidence that like I don't think you realize existed, because but it makes sense, right, Like what do we do with anyone in our lives that we love, whether it's a colleague, a friend, a podcast, host, an influencer, a parent, a spouse, a loved one.

00:24:26
Speaker 6: We love them like we but how do we do that? We verbalize it to them.

00:24:29
Speaker 5: We say, like, you're amazing, you look great, You're going to fucking kill that job interview.

00:24:34
Speaker 6: I love listening to on that podcast. It's constant verbal affirmations. But we never do that to ourselves ever. We weren't talked to because we were taught that it was narcissistic.

00:24:44
Speaker 5: We thought that it was arrogant, conceded, Oh, you think so highly of yourself, Like but like if you think about it, well, why is it with.

00:24:52
Speaker 6: Every other relationship on our lives?

00:24:54
Speaker 5: We're so quick that guy goes to do fuck him, like you're so much better than him, like he doesn't even write. But when it's like a guy goes to me because I'm I'm the worst, Like I like I don't believe, Like I'm not going to be loved, No one loved me.

00:25:04
Speaker 6: I'm not worthy. We're so critical.

00:25:08
Speaker 5: So when you start to look in the mirror and you see that person, it's helpful with the mirror because it's almost kind of like that person isn't you, So you can look at them and you can hype them up the same way you would have a conversation with anyone else in your life. And if you can do that every day, even if it's just like a wink, like, it's like a little like acknowledging your present them, you your goal.

00:25:30
Speaker 2: Thene like truly, wow, you like really are the queen of fucking confidence.

00:25:34
Speaker 5: I mean I can't just come on and be like I'm looking at but it's not like I gotta know.

00:25:37
Speaker 1: But like, you should be a self help coach.

00:25:40
Speaker 6: I was during the pandemic.

00:25:41
Speaker 5: I did.

00:25:42
Speaker 6: I did confidence coaching on Zoom. I started that.

00:25:44
Speaker 2: So you did do that because I know that you started doing like Instagram Lives that like turned into a series which you have to know you're talking to someone who is technologically challenged. Instagram is not my friend. I'm like, it's so hard to even.

00:26:00
Speaker 1: Get into this.

00:26:01
Speaker 2: How what was like the format of your Instagram Live series and was that intimidating?

00:26:09
Speaker 5: Well, okay, so the format was like every Friday during the pandemic, I went on Instagram Live and I dated men blindly.

00:26:16
Speaker 2: And you would take you would take the viewers on Instagram Live on the date with.

00:26:21
Speaker 6: You, right right, they were watching and I would like, literally like I had a producer, and she was like yeah, at first it was a friend.

00:26:26
Speaker 5: And then I was like, oh wait, this is gonna this is poping off, Like I need to hire someone, hire a producer. She'd be like, I've edit a bunch of guys submitted by your friends and family, and you know Randos, you're gonna like, let use your name Paul let In. And I was like, okay, So I let him into the live and we can go on a date for thirty minutes.

00:26:42
Speaker 2: Because it was during the pandemic, you couldn't go to you couldn't go out, and about.

00:26:46
Speaker 5: You were both in our living room. I had my ring light and glass of wine and you just go on that date.

00:26:51
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I would be so nervous.

00:26:55
Speaker 5: It was so fun. It was so fun.

00:26:57
Speaker 1: It was fun. Did you did you like any of the guys?

00:26:59
Speaker 5: Yeah? I did. There was definitely a lot of drama. It was like a real show. Like it was like there was a villain, There was like tea, there was feelings, there was tears, like there was a whole thing.

00:27:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so I'm so into this right now, Like I'm so into what everything you're saying, okay, so tell me this. Would the guys come back if you like enjoyed your time?

00:27:19
Speaker 1: Was it the same? It was like a cast, So.

00:27:22
Speaker 5: Basically like if the guy, if I liked him, I would have him come back for a second date and that would be a full hour and we'd do like an activity like a live. Yeah.

00:27:32
Speaker 6: And then the third season. I did three seasons at the show.

00:27:34
Speaker 5: I did fifty guys like in a year, so like I did like I did a lot. And in the third season, we changed up the format so the audience would vote for their favorite and that was like had brackets and that was like more fun, like guys would go ahead to head with each other. And then the very last episode of the season finale, the guy ended up flying to New York to see me, and like he surprised me during the live, so I thought we were just going to do our typical thing, you know, doing talking, and he ended up being like at my doorstep.

00:28:03
Speaker 1: And are we still dating him?

00:28:05
Speaker 5: Oh my god.

00:28:06
Speaker 2: No.

00:28:06
Speaker 6: That lasted, like we get fizzled after a month.

00:28:08
Speaker 5: But it was interesting, Like I thought I liked him a lot more than I did because the audience was so like just down, you know, they voted for him. They thought that we were so cute, you know, And it's really interesting when like how an audience and public perception can really like impact your idea of someone.

00:28:26
Speaker 6: Not that there was anything wrong with him, We just weren't the right match, but.

00:28:29
Speaker 5: I was willing to overlook so many things because like he we were perfect together. But it's like we didn't even know each other. Our audience doesn't it us, you know that well, so that was kind of why that kind of fizzled out. It just like wasn't the right match. But it was so interesting, like how much I felt a responsibility to almost like have feelings for him because you know, my audience like was so down and like hyped up that.

00:28:53
Speaker 1: They were right or die for him, which is.

00:28:54
Speaker 5: Fair, like they they want me to be happy, but like I think that they also realized that, like I've never to settle.

00:29:00
Speaker 2: So you know, Okay, so he shows up to New York. You had no idea he was coming, and what did you guys go and do?

00:29:08
Speaker 5: We sat on the couch because we had an entire live audience watching us. So we like played by card game and I have a card game called let's fucking date and it's planned dates to play anywhere really like you can live okay, like you can play with groups of friends if you're a couple, and like it's in four bases, so it goes first base, second base, third base, home run. So as the questions, like the higher the base, the hotter the questions, so they get hotter and hotter and hotter. I it was definitely like I just remembered like he didn't really like want to be touching with me on camera and like I'm like, you just flew to fucking New York, like.

00:29:45
Speaker 6: We right, but afterwards we went to go get a drink.

00:29:49
Speaker 5: But it was definitely again it was weird, like it was weird, like this is someone like I was like dating virtually, but like you know, I did actually end up like you also do know each other already because it's like ultimately, like that show shows you that like the foundation of any great relationship is conversation rights able to talk.

00:30:08
Speaker 6: So we already did that for a couple of hours in front of an audience.

00:30:11
Speaker 5: It was interesting to kind of like be in private and like get to know each other like intimality like that.

00:30:16
Speaker 2: I mean, I love that you have this card game. Do you feel like it would I'm new back into the dating scene, and like I always wonder like how you break the ice that's so like this is how you break it is the card game. Yes.

00:30:32
Speaker 5: So people are literally like wait, like how do I even bring it up on the date? And I'm like literally like who have you ever met in your life that like you're like, hey, I want to play a game. They're like no, man, Like then you shouldn't date that.

00:30:44
Speaker 1: You shouldn't fade on.

00:30:45
Speaker 5: No, it's so fun, Like I've heard stories of people like bring them on a date then like you know, like the waiter, like the server ends of playing and other people play like it's really it's like a good icebreaker game because it's not like the questions like are on corny, like they're fun.

00:30:57
Speaker 1: So I have to ask you what made you want to come up with card game?

00:31:00
Speaker 2: Because it's super super random, Like I have yet to meet anybody who just says like, and your your resume is huge, like there's nothing that you really haven't done, so of course you would have that you have a card game on your resume, but like, what made you think that this is what you wanted to do.

00:31:19
Speaker 5: You're so sweet?

00:31:20
Speaker 6: No, I mean honestly, like it was because of the dating show.

00:31:24
Speaker 5: I had to every week go on a new date and like, you know, it was it was a TV show that I created, but like it was a TV show, so it couldn't be like the typical like.

00:31:33
Speaker 6: Oh like do you oh, where do you go to school?

00:31:35
Speaker 2: Oh?

00:31:35
Speaker 5: Do you know this person? Like it had to be entertaining for the audience as well, and I had to get to know I had to get in fast, Like I couldn't be like what do you do for fun?

00:31:45
Speaker 6: Like it had to get right to the good stuff.

00:31:47
Speaker 5: So you know, like one of the questions is like what is something you wanted to say to me but you haven't yet? Like that's a great question, like that like right, not quite, that's a sexy question. So what I started doing was just writing now fun questions and then the list kind of before every episode because I had to come up with new stuff, and it literally compiled, and I remember after a couple of episodes, girls were like, hey, like do you mind sending me those questions? Like they were really good? And I was like, what if I created something that no one would ever feel like nervous on a date because they even if they don't even use the card game, it's there. And I can't tell you how many people like men, women are like thank god for your card game. It got me out of a mind.

00:32:28
Speaker 6: Or like it taught me that the person wasn't for me.

00:32:31
Speaker 5: There are a lot of questions on there, and I have three, by the way, and Let's Fucking Date that I made, one called Let's Fucking Fuck, and.

00:32:37
Speaker 6: I also have another one called Let's Fucking Play. So they're all like, you know, they're all essentially you could mix them together. They're all the same format, but like you know, I think Let's Fucking Fuck is obviously, you know, a little sexier, yeah, and Let's Play is like.

00:32:49
Speaker 5: A little more intimate vibes, like a little like you know, just goes a little deeper. So I think the thing about these games is like what I've noticed that people had the best exit of their life from them, Like literally people have broken beds from it.

00:33:01
Speaker 1: I'm like, where are you buying all of them? I'm buying all of them now.

00:33:04
Speaker 5: I'm sitting in jip, like where are you getting your furniture if you're breaking your back I've never broken by that, but really it happens often.

00:33:11
Speaker 1: Your card game is making it happen.

00:33:13
Speaker 5: Literally that and like the next generation of children because a lot of pregnancies are occurring, and just be careful, you know what I mean.

00:33:18
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll be careful, honey. I'm in a new stage of life. I'm going to start with it. Let's fucking dates. Let's we'll stay in the safe zone.

00:33:27
Speaker 5: You know.

00:33:27
Speaker 1: We can save the fucking for later, you know.

00:33:30
Speaker 2: But I am I'm getting all three of them because I'm in the zone of like you know, they're I'm my safe zone is like communication over like phone calls or FaceTime text messages. There's not a lot of in person with the people I'm choosing to speak to right now, and that is a great way to like, you know, not have it fizzle out and not be stale.

00:33:52
Speaker 6: They're also really fun to play with FaceTime too. But I think it's interesting that you say that about.

00:33:56
Speaker 5: In person versus virtual because that's something I noticed like postpan I mean, you know, post pandemic, we're not technically completely out of it, but in this like you know, moving out of it and getting back into the real worlds like I've noticed that no one approaches you RL. Like I feel like everyone's like on the apps. Everyone it's so virtual and it's like it's so text heavy, and like you know, you call them, it's like weird. It's like why, like I find so much gets like lost over text. You know, I don't know how you feel about it, but I just feel like it's like kind of like frustrating.

00:34:31
Speaker 2: No, I am the worst text in the world right now on my phone, I have like five hundred and sixty seven on read text messages and for a virgo, you know, you would think I'd be panicking, but I'm into phone calls.

00:34:42
Speaker 1: I'm into FaceTime.

00:34:43
Speaker 2: Like even though, like you said, the pandemic really made everybody kind of sink into a hole and get really nervous about inner like we're having to relearn how to interact with people in real life.

00:34:55
Speaker 1: Fully, you're a smart bitch. Graduated.

00:35:00
Speaker 2: I read that you graduated from Duke Okay as someone who went to community college.

00:35:06
Speaker 1: That is inspiring as fuck.

00:35:09
Speaker 6: It's fine, Like, I mean it's fine.

00:35:12
Speaker 5: No, I mean it is inspiring. But you know what, Like I think that there's a lot of emphasis placed on these elitist schools, and.

00:35:20
Speaker 6: Like, yes, did I love Duke?

00:35:21
Speaker 5: Was It's so fun?

00:35:22
Speaker 6: I'm so fucking literally I loved it.

00:35:23
Speaker 5: But like what I've noticed over time as being older, it's like it literally doesn't fucking matter where you went to school. It, Matt, it's your drive and it's like your passion, and it's like being social, being a nice person, you know, right, So I just like, yes, I am proud, but like.

00:35:40
Speaker 2: So are you saying that you didn't graduate from from Duke with a PhD In being the queen of fucking confidence.

00:35:49
Speaker 6: You know what I did? So like, thank you so fucking much for acknowledging that.

00:35:55
Speaker 2: But I sometimes feel the same way like my a lot of my friends, because I just always knew I didn't want to go to school like college. It just wasn't my thing, and everyone else was like going to these incredible schools and then they didn't use their degree for anything, Like what did you get your degree?

00:36:12
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. I got it in drinking, And I'm just kidding, I got it in I think what it really is is a network, Like I think that that's ultimately like what I got out of it.

00:36:22
Speaker 6: If we really want to like you know, and I don't know if that was worth the tuition.

00:36:27
Speaker 5: I don't know. I think like that's really what you get out of that shit, and I just wanted to go speak at DUPE.

00:36:33
Speaker 6: They invited me back, which was kind of.

00:36:34
Speaker 1: Fucking sick, and that's really fucking Students.

00:36:37
Speaker 5: Asked me like what it like, what were your takeaways? And I was like, it's really interesting. It's like I was like, I wish I did a lot more on campus, Like I wish I drore more clubs, and I was more like, you know, I was really impressed. So many students came to see me talk, and I was like I didn't go that many talks, like I was just like fucking around because like you're you're basically like nineteen twenty, like you're like whatever, Like so I said that, but I also I said, just like the people that you meet, you know what I mean. But then again like if you don't have that, like you mean people outside schools, so but agree, no one goes like anyone who has meet unless you're like a doctor, like it doesn't.

00:37:08
Speaker 2: Matter, no, and if you're like us, I mean, I just I just didn't feel like I needed to go to the University of Utah to like do what I needed to do.

00:37:17
Speaker 6: And it's good that you had that gun instinct and you listen to yourself.

00:37:20
Speaker 2: Yes, because I'm one of very few that's like celebrating that they paid off their student loans there, Like I have so many friends that are like, I just paid it off.

00:37:28
Speaker 1: I'm like, holy fuck, we're grown and you just paid it off.

00:37:32
Speaker 6: Literally.

00:37:33
Speaker 2: Okay, so you you have a plethora of things you've done, including you've done like advertising things for listen to me, I like, your world is so foreign to me, but I'm impressed. Okay, you worked with Nike Absolute Plan B one step like what they just reached out to you and they were like, we need an epic marketing plan for a campaign, Like can you help us?

00:37:56
Speaker 5: You know they hire me, Like you know, they hire a lot of influencers make content.

00:38:01
Speaker 2: But I think that like they hire and me, babe, Nike a reagion out to me to create content, So teach me the ways.

00:38:08
Speaker 5: Not yet, not yet, Okay, It's gonna happen soon if that's what you want. I think, Like, really, it was like I don't see what I make branded videos, Like I don't see it as like, oh, like you're like, I'm gonna tell you this water bottle. I'm like, how can this water bottle fit into the narrative that is SFK, this character that I created. So it's like, s Okay is just like busy, fucking busy making money.

00:38:31
Speaker 6: She's thirsty. She's thirsty for some dick. That's like, how I do it?

00:38:34
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

00:38:35
Speaker 5: Like I just came up out it out of my ass, but that's essentially what I think about with the product. Maybe not as sexual always.

00:38:41
Speaker 1: I really fucking love you and SFK.

00:38:44
Speaker 6: Is fringa fucking care again, yes.

00:38:46
Speaker 2: Bitch, Okay, So you like really create a narrative for the brand and they're like, okay, we have to have this because again I told you I suck social media.

00:38:57
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm ninety five, okay, okay, so this is.

00:39:00
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna stop your right here. You don't speak badly about yourself ever. Ever you're saying you can say I'm still learning the ropes.

00:39:08
Speaker 1: I'm still learning the ropes.

00:39:09
Speaker 6: But you're saying you suck, great and you suck. It's not going to change as for as long as you think that.

00:39:13
Speaker 1: No, you're absolutely right, teach me more ways.

00:39:15
Speaker 5: Hey Maggie's not reaching out, well now they will be like Nike, you will one day. You know. That's the That's that switch of the way you speak about yourself is what will get you anything that you want. It's truly believing it and always like turning into a positive. But like listen, Like I could take up a camera when I was fifteen years old and I was like, I want to be I want to make movies, Like that's what I want to do.

00:39:37
Speaker 6: Wow, And that's what I will do because you know how I am.

00:39:41
Speaker 5: I get to say you just to say it. If you keep saying it, it eventually just happens like bibdy bopdy boot bitch. Like literally that's like my mentality. So but I still picked up a camera and I was like, I want to be a filmmaker. And so while I'm not there yet, I use these little branded moments to just like make a little movie for these brands, you know, Like I did like one for Plan B and it was kind of like inspired by Gossip Girls.

00:40:04
Speaker 6: So I shot it like the met on the Steps and it was like so fun.

00:40:07
Speaker 5: But I was like this is like a little movie.

00:40:08
Speaker 6: Like that's how I treat it.

00:40:09
Speaker 5: And I think that that it's fun because my audience isn't like, oh shit, she's trying to sell us Plan B Like no, like I'm actually trying to sell you a story, Like I want you to watch a story and then if you like the products associated story, great.

00:40:23
Speaker 2: So how long does it take you to like get your little mini movies made made?

00:40:29
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say it takes like so this is the thing too, because you know, fucking is very much ingrained in my brand.

00:40:36
Speaker 6: It's like I now, I'm like lucky enough where I've like really proved myself.

00:40:40
Speaker 5: So you know, they're brands that like don't care that I use that word, but sometimes there is some maneuvering that it has to happen. But you know, like I would say, like it takes like two weeks to make something.

00:40:55
Speaker 6: To ide eate it, shoot it, edit it, send it to the brand.

00:40:59
Speaker 2: Maybe it's revisions, but I am so impressed by you.

00:41:04
Speaker 6: You're so speed love.

00:41:06
Speaker 2: Just a real quick side note, do you think people that say the fuck word a lot are intelligent than most people?

00:41:12
Speaker 1: More intelligent?

00:41:13
Speaker 5: Way?

00:41:13
Speaker 6: I read that somewhere and I was like, well, I'm.

00:41:16
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, yeah honestly, because if it's true, I'm a fucking genius.

00:41:20
Speaker 5: Well you literally we knew that already. Honey.

00:41:22
Speaker 1: Okay, right, okay, oh my god, I love you. Okay.

00:41:30
Speaker 2: My other question is do you have a calendar that you like, I may be just stealing everything you're doing, Like, Okay, Serena fucking Karrigan does it this way, so this is how we're fucking doing it everybody. Do you have like a calendar that you set out and you're like, okay for the next However, many days this is dedicated to plan B one step video.

00:41:52
Speaker 5: No, I don't get that. Many days it's like I got an idea, great, let's shoot to the brand. I'm gonna shoot it. I'm gonna google cow like I think if you blocks hour blocks and maybe dateloks, like if it's a shoot, like I'll probably walk the day off because I'm, you know, producing it and I'm in it, and it's like I have a director, I have camera, Like I treat it like a high level production. When I first started doing this shit, my managers were like, you're literally spending all your money on making the video, Like all the money you're getting for the brand on the video.

00:42:20
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, no, I know, and they're like like what do you need? Like are you okay? And I was like, it's going to pay off.

00:42:25
Speaker 5: Watch And I think it's true because it's like I delivered them just like a piece of content that could literally be on.

00:42:30
Speaker 6: Your TV like a commercial.

00:42:32
Speaker 5: And then it's just like you get to, you know, work with bigger brands, get bigger budgets, whatever.

00:42:37
Speaker 6: And by the way, one day we'll have a fucking ad on the super Bowl.

00:42:40
Speaker 2: Obviously duh, it's in the atmosphere. You just manifested that shit.

00:42:44
Speaker 5: But I think it's like, really my vice for someone who wants to do a lot of things challenging discovery, it's like just literally get really specific.

00:42:51
Speaker 6: On what you want in life, Like what do you want?

00:42:53
Speaker 5: Like ask yourself that. Don't be afraid to say it. You know. It's like you even said, like I don't really want to go to college, like I wanted to do something else, and you said that was so much confidence while everyone your other friends were going to other schools, but you stuck to that. I think that like having that same confidence about anything else is what ultimately like it's going to get you what you want. It's also thinking like asking, like what do you want in life? Like I'll tell you right now, I just wrote a TV show. I want to get it made, like I want to like act in it. I want to get it done. I want it to be on a streamer. I want to come back to your podcast. We're going to talk about it.

00:43:23
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you.

00:43:24
Speaker 2: I want to shrink you down and keep you in my pocket for real. I would be living like I live the dream as it is, but I would be living the fucking dream if I could just have you with me at all times.

00:43:38
Speaker 5: Well, we could be friends and I can hit you up one hundred percent and remind you. But that's recentally like that kind of vintality and like all this is like what I try to share, Like I'm not like a gatekeeper. I'm not like oh, like I'm killing it and like I bet you would want to know how. It's more just like I'm just honest, and I think it's everyone's capable. I think people think, you know, things aren't within their reach, but that's because they're insecure a little bit. I think everything's within your reach truly. It's just hearing people think too.

00:44:07
Speaker 2: I love what you said at the very beginning of the podcast, and I've been sitting on this because I agree. I don't like the I don't like the word fake either, And for me, I wasn't. I was not a confident child. I wasn't confident until I was probably late twenties. And I love that you said that you feel that we're born confident, and we just it gets muddied up just by being alive and growing and people saying certain things.

00:44:39
Speaker 1: It's like getting back to the root of who you are.

00:44:42
Speaker 5: That's what it is.

00:44:43
Speaker 1: That's what it is, and that's the thing.

00:44:45
Speaker 6: It's like the fakeness.

00:44:47
Speaker 5: Ah, it's just saying that it's like, well, then it's not really real, and then if it's not really real, then it can leave at any time. Right, is who you are When you were a little baby, you weren't insecure.

00:44:58
Speaker 2: No, I love you said that that was for It sounds so simple, but it's so fucking complex because we are in this world right now, Like I feel so badly for young kids who you know. I think I was at the tail end of like flip phones and like no internet on phones, there was no social media. Right, you were too, and I'm so grateful for that because these kids, now, no, they're fucked, they're fucked, and it makes me so sad for them. And just to hear you say something like that, like that shit needs to be taught in fucking school, I know, right, that's why.

00:45:37
Speaker 5: We're trying to get this message out. Baby.

00:45:39
Speaker 1: No, I'm really, I'm really.

00:45:41
Speaker 2: I was excited to have you on the podcast, but like, you're a deep motherfucker and I really appreciate you being so open. So I also want to know you always say do it for the plot. Yeah, instead I do it for the gram.

00:45:54
Speaker 1: It's do it for the plot.

00:45:56
Speaker 6: Everyone does it for the gram anyway, So let's do it for the fucking plot.

00:45:59
Speaker 2: Now.

00:45:59
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, can you like elaborate please?

00:46:01
Speaker 5: So do over the plot literally means like nothing matters, because everything in your life matters, like every heartbreak, rejection, celebration, milestone, friendship, every like, you know, time that you were like, oh my god, why the fuck is this happening to me? And then four months later you're like, that's why it happened to me, because everything is like for the story of your life. And I started saying you know, before it like blew up all over the internet. Was like I was like I'm a new character, Like that's just like who I am, and like everything is for the plot of my life, and so you know this. The point isn't to like jump out the window for the plot. No, obviously do it, like be safe and you know, take calculated risks, but also like stop.

00:46:42
Speaker 6: Letting fear get in the way of you living your life.

00:46:45
Speaker 5: You're having your heart broken or fear of like going after a job and maybe not getting it, or moving to a new place and having trouble making friends, because that struggle is the point and it's part of your journey ultimately, and then you're gonna like realize you're like, oh, that's why, Like now I know that, Like, you know, quitting my job two weeks before the pandemic, I did that. I didn't do it for the plot at the time. I'm like, that was for my plot because then I built this whole brand and TV show and card game and I'm sitting next to you, across from you, like if I hadn't quit my job, then I would I be here in right.

00:47:17
Speaker 1: Now, And that's terrifying.

00:47:19
Speaker 2: I mean, to quit your job and just kind of throw it into the universe's hands. And you know, you're basically saying, I pray to God something catches me, because I'm taking a huge risk right now.

00:47:31
Speaker 6: See, But I didn't see it as something catches me.

00:47:32
Speaker 5: It's like I will catch something.

00:47:35
Speaker 1: Girl.

00:47:36
Speaker 2: You need to write a book and it needs to be like eight hundred pages.

00:47:40
Speaker 1: Can you please do that?

00:47:41
Speaker 6: Who's going to read an eight hundred beach book?

00:47:43
Speaker 1: Fucking everybody? You're a genius.

00:47:46
Speaker 5: You're so sweet. Okay, I will set the book for sure.

00:47:49
Speaker 1: I need everything you're doing. I need the games.

00:47:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, the game's done on a resne Wait, I also have that cop by way, is it the vibrator one.

00:47:58
Speaker 1: I'm drinking out of a Yes? It says it's a vibe with the hand doing like a rock on.

00:48:03
Speaker 2: But she has a vibrator and so you really of course, idio, that's the less a vibrators.

00:48:10
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00:48:11
Speaker 1: I know I dig them. Shout out to them.

00:48:13
Speaker 2: Feel free to the podcast, Feel free to sponsor the podcast. Oh my god, I had the fucking best time with you.

00:48:19
Speaker 1: You have no idea.

00:48:20
Speaker 5: Literally, you're the best.

00:48:21
Speaker 6: I can't wait to meet you in real life.

00:48:23
Speaker 2: I can't wait either. Will you slide in my DM with your phone number? And if I'm ever in New York or you're on my side, we can get together. Thousand yes, okay, Where can people find you? And what should we be looking out for? Because I'm literally whatever you're fucking selling, I'm buying.

00:48:38
Speaker 6: You are the queen I am found.

00:48:41
Speaker 5: Find me on Serena Kerrigan, TikTok, Instagram, Twitter. I just leave my Facebook so you don't look there.

00:48:49
Speaker 6: I was like, these photos are me from high school?

00:48:51
Speaker 5: And no, like middle school. They don't. We don't look like the TikTokers. Now let me tell you that much.

00:48:57
Speaker 1: No, we do not like that.

00:49:00
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00:49:04
Speaker 6: I have a lot of things going on.

00:49:05
Speaker 5: Just be on the fucking look app. But most of all, every single person's listening. Go to your mirror right now. I don't care if you fucking think it's awkward. If it's awkward, it's working. If you you've done way harder shit. Go to your mirror and tell that person, Hey, I love you, I got you. That's it. You can do it. Do it and and DM me let me let me know how full they will change your life.

00:49:28
Speaker 1: No, it will change your life. You are a queen. I'm so grateful you did the podcast.

00:49:32
Speaker 2: You really are, Like, I'm leaving this podcast feeling fantastic.

00:49:37
Speaker 5: I'm so glad.

00:49:38
Speaker 6: That makes me so happy, and I'm so lovely to meet and.

00:49:40
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I know I can't wait. Thank you. Vabe me on

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