Blue Jays ONE win away, Nats hire Butera, Yesavage schools Dodgers

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Speaker 1: About territory is presented by Fox One. I'm being told that Eric Kratz has an important statement. Let's go to him now.

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Speaker 2: Shohittani is confirmed on a flight to to Toronto.

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Speaker 1: Confirmed. Okay, confirmed, let's start the show. We can officially start ft I just thought of this. My favorite tweet yesterday actually was from our friend Alden Gonzalez. You know he covers West Coast ball, a lot of Dodgers right free ESPN, one of you remind me next time he comes on to just spend five minutes on this topic. He goes. Questions being asked during this world series are making me physically ill, and I feel so heard. You guys didn't go through this, but it covered a lot of postseasons. And then people pop up and I don't want to All right, I'll do it. It's usually the local news and they show up and the questions are next level. You've probably gotten them a million times, have you gotten when you're in the playoffs and all of a sudden you start seeing people you've never seen there before, and you're like, oh, you don't know baseball?

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Speaker 3: All?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, of course, I mean that happens all the time. That happens as soon as.

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Speaker 5: The playoffs start, though, okay, from the from the wild card round to the World Chairs. It only gets worse is they get farther into it, because more people start showing up. But there are times when you look at someone you're like, you've never been to a game in your life, have you?

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Speaker 1: How are you with that? Because you're an interesting character? Did you just play along and answer there something depending on who questions? But did you ever like laugh or make fun of course?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, me, you know me, That's what I'm saying. Of course I would say. So there are times like I mean, when I was playing, you know, make a run and all of a sudden you see someone and you're like, okay, and you can always tell them too, because they look they don't know what to do or where to go or how to act. You know, they're just nervous wreck. And then they get there two minutes with you and they oh, guy, can we you know? And it's it's usually the person. So someone you know will say because the media access is so limited during the playoffs, so it usually happens on the field. Okay, So you'll see someone you know, a reporter you know, and they'll say, hey, can I get a couple of minutes with you? And then you'll see that person that's like a new person there, and I hate to say, they're usually a younger person and you know they've never been to a game before, and they and they and they like tag along and they're like, oh, we'll get in on this, right, Because there's that once one person grabs somebody, then a couple of people start gathering around and there's that one person that you know, and they're like and then they just ask you some questions.

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Speaker 4: You're just like, first game, huh. Yeah. You try not to make him feel bad, but you kind of.

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Speaker 5: Feel bad for him. It'd be like Michael Beer when he goes these games. Right, I know who Michael is, but there's a lot of people that don't Michael. Michael goes up to a player and he's like, so you like girl, Jesus no, So do you see them in your socks?

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Speaker 3: Like I do?

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Speaker 4: Hold on?

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Speaker 1: Hold on, get back here?

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Speaker 5: Do you set twelve alarms to get up at six am and they start at four am?

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Speaker 1: Those are actually better questions than here. I'll give you my example to Kratz. So there's the questions where you're like, Okay, that's not a question that makes sense for the game of baseball. There's also the people that are coming in who do like the last few minutes of the news and I don't know if this is a thing as much. I remember this more from like ten plus years ago, and I mean they would say like, oh, I just got to get a quote, so they would actually pretty aggressively get one of the first questions in. It's like there's beat writers covering the team all year and they're ready to ask real questions. In crats, there'll be that like one dude who's a hustler and he just shoulders his way in and goes, he how much pressure you feeling tonight? And every game in the series, when it's in their spots, they usually won't travel it's that question, and then they'll pull out run tape, roll it and I asked it Presentski today about the pressure he's feeling and they're serious.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 2: My favorite part of all that is watching the guys who have been with you the entire season their reaction. They're like, you know, they're sitting there, they're waiting for the first question, and that dude just pile drives to the front. He's like, so tell me about the pressure, and the other guys are like great. So when Alden, when Alden tweeted that, it made it made me laugh because I've been there. But if anybody doesn't know what we're talking about, just google the Saturday and Saturday Night Live Awkward Sports Interview and it's just like, so.

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Speaker 4: You got a hit literally what it is? It's in real life. Yeah, it's real life.

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Speaker 5: People just don't It's just if people aren't around it, they're just it happened there a job.

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Speaker 1: It is their job.

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Speaker 5: In fairness, it's their job. But they it's their job to get a quote and to be that person. But they haven't been around I don't know. It's it's if we're making fun of them, but it's not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they could try a little harder. And my example is like I I did some entertainment stuff in my past life and I didn't know everything, but guess what, I did homework And then I did and I'm talking about all the celebrities, like I watch every show. I don't, but I did homework and they were like, wow, you really know you watch all that. I'm like I watch watch any of that, So just throwing that out there. We'll get Alding Gonzales at some point and we can. I like all them a lot, so just if next time we have them on, everybody remember so we can spend five minutes on that. Now we can spend some time on the World Series. All right, here we go. Blue Jays have to win one game out of their next two. Dodgers have to win two in a row. Games are in Toronto. John Schneider after the big Game five win, said quote, I can't wait to at Rogers Center is going to look, feel and sound like it's different when a city hasn't experienced moments like this in a long time.

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Speaker 4: Right, one hundred percent after crowd, it's gonna be amazing. Listen. The one I say this all the time.

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Speaker 5: The wonder regret I have the year we won in two thousand and five is we won everything on the road. We won the Division on the road, who won the Division Series on the road, who won the LCS on the road, And we won the World Series on the road. So we never got that home field feeling like this is the clinching game to win something, to go to the next round.

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Speaker 4: It was always on the road, so.

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Speaker 5: I always wanted that, and I've clinched divisions and we played a game one sixty three a couple years later and it was a home and it was incredible. But to feel that feeling of especially the World Series, like you're going home and you feel that feeling of win, We're gonna win. We have a chance to win in front of our home crowd in a place Toronto has it once since ninety three. It's gonna be the best that these people are gonna be fired of. These Canucks are gonna be fired up.

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Speaker 1: You know. The Dodgers, I think out of there. Whatever World Series titles they have, it's been mentioned a couple times, have only clinched a World Series title once at home, and it was a long time ago and decades ago. So anything they've done recently, I'm not talking about postseason other series, but I'm talking about World Series. For the Toronto Blue Jays, crats, they have a chance to party at home if they pull off one more up.

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Speaker 2: This quote right here tells me all I need to know about the Jays. Would this quote have been the exact same if they were down three to two?

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Speaker 4: Can't wait to hear what the crowd looks like.

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Speaker 2: To me, I think they feed off of this stuff. I don't think there's like home field advantage. I just think there's the excitement of going back home. If they were down three two, they still would expect Roger Center to be popping. Like I just I think this is the kind of stuff that they're like hopefully enjoying and not just like nose to the grindstone, not like not seeing anything else, because Rogers Center is going to be a spectacle.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be great. I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: What is it that makes players able to seize the moment? It sounds like a local news question, But the reason I ask it is these are the biggest games of their lives. Most of the Blue Jays have never been in moments like this before. We can look at They've been around this kind of craziness their whole life and their dads. But I mean, Ernie Clement just suddenly. But here's four hundred and fifty hitters.

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Speaker 5: But no, But here's what they do. Certain people and you see probably have a dog here, right, one of my dogs.

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 5: Eve, Yeah, I just flew off one of my dog care sorry dogs for a long walk, Eve, a little pompsky.

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Speaker 2: Eve.

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Speaker 5: Tell you can always tell by the if it's curly it's Eve. It as straight it's Noah. But everybody deals with things in different ways, especially pressure. Okay, and the Blue Jays have done a really good job. And it's a credit and we're gonna talk about you, Savage later, but it's credit to their scouts, credit to their developments, credit to their coaches, it's credit to the people that they have in this organization and the players.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: First of all, they feed off Vlad. Lads always smile and blad. It never seems like anything bothers them, right, But it seems like nothing really bothers this team, and they're just kind of the same right now. It's easier said than done to do that because I've been on both sides and I've seen guys crumble. We've seen guys crumble under the pressure.

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Speaker 4: Right. Alex Rodriguez for years couldn't hit in the postseason, and they were like, oh, what's wrong with this guy?

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Speaker 5: Right, there's certain players that just can't do And then you look at Manny Ramirez and David Ortisza.

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Speaker 4: Seem like every time they come up they got to hit. Right.

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Speaker 5: You have to understand, and I always tell people to do that, and I think rats will agree with me. You give me nine guys in my lineup most of the time that can aren't afraid to get a hit in that moment first of all, to fail because you're gonna not get a hit every time, but you want to be up in those moments and that can get hits off a closer in the ninth inning with two outs in a runer on second base, and I'll beat you.

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Speaker 4: I'll beat you more times than you beat me.

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Speaker 5: Give me nine of those guys. Give me nine of those guys that don't shrink away from the moment.

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Speaker 4: Give me nine of them.

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Speaker 5: Because I played with guys that didn't want to be up with the game on the line, Krats, I know you did too. Like there was guys you just knew, oh gosh, this game's over. He didn't want to be up, And you guys have vocalize that.

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Speaker 4: Man, I don't gosh. I you're like, oh boy, please don't let him get up.

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Speaker 5: But it's just the thing, man, Like I personally, I love being up in that situation.

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Speaker 4: Did I make a lot of outs in that situation?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I was like, Okay, screw it, I've I tried, But I wasn't afraid to fail, right, That's I think what MJ say. Michael Jordan said, you know, you know, I wanted the ball because I could handle the failure, Like can you handle the failure? Lebron James passes it right, Like, not a knock on Lebron James. He's a great player, but he usually passes that shot. Michael wanted that ball most of the time, right, You got to have And it feels like the blue Jays, not that the Dodgers don't, but it feels like the blue Jays just have ten to twelve of those guys that just want to be up in those situations and then they're not afraid of the moment.

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Speaker 4: One of the aspects you said, Scott, like, what what does it mean?

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Speaker 2: How do teams come up big in the clutch or whatever your exact question was. I forget, but a lot of it is what Aj said, but he kind of glazed over the one thing. It's okay to have veteran older guys in your lineup. George Springer struggled up until this year. If you don't think like conversations he's had the last three years, even though he's only been super successful this season, the conversations he's had about experiences with Houston, experiences for himself playing in the playoffs, maybe didn't just happen. He doesn't sit down before Game one of the World Series said, guys, so in game one, you're gonna feel this. No, He's had these conversations for a long time. There's young guys on this team like Ernie Clement. There's guys that have squalored for a long time in the minor leagues like Nathan Lucas, and there's a there's superstars like Vladdie and Bo.

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Speaker 4: These conversations don't.

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Speaker 2: Just happen in game two of the World's you know, right after they win the NLCS. They're conversations that have happened for the last three four years while they've played. Some of them have played together and throughout this season too, and it's like you lean on that and you're like, I get it.

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Speaker 4: I get what he's saying.

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Speaker 2: Now, I get this feeling that I have is adrenaline times ten, and it's okay to harness it or whatever whatever Springer said. And that wealth of experience is invaluable. And George's contract paid for itself if he ever had even one conversation with any of these guys that made him feel more comfortable to be who they are in the World Series.

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Speaker 1: I agree with everything you said and it's super informative. I want to finish this conversation by saying something that we might see in the comments. George Springer actually has had some decent moments with the Blue Jays. It just feels like a long time ago. The last two years before.

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Speaker 4: This last year were bad, worse sub par.

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Speaker 1: YEA, He's a six year, one hundred fifty million dollar contract at the time, largest in Toronto Blue Jays franchise history. Nowadays, we look at a deal like that in baseball and you're like, oh, that's that's fine, and yeah, this year's been insane for him. Actually, Like in twenty twenty two he was a four win player OPS plus one thirty two, whicharge Springer's fine. He's actually had plenty of success in Toronto. It's just that the had the playoffs for years, looked like he was declining, and then they're like, oh, you only got like a year and a half because he was hurt the one year a year and a half out of him, and then two in decline and they're like, oh wait, now he's like a top five MVP. So just wanted to clear that part up so he doesn't catch, you know, Freddy frieven Stras during the Dobrawski comments, dude still had a overall.

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Speaker 5: But I want to say, I want to come in real quick and we have to go. But here's the one thing I want to say about with crowd said, though I've played for a long time and I was in the playoffs and in and out of the playoffs, I never had a conversation with about how you would feel. You can't tell someone how to feel. I can't tell someone how they're going to react. And you can't tell now people. If someone comes up to he goes, what's it like doing this? You can give him how you feel. But you can't tell anyone. You can't tell anyone how much pain tolerance you have. You can't tell anyone how they're gonna feel until you've experienced. And that's one of the things we start digging in these new managers. They don't know like a manager is supposed to be a leader, and but he can't tell me the Buttera in Washington. He can't tell me what it's like to be in the World Series and hit against Roger Clemens Royo's wall down three and you need to get a hit.

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Speaker 3: He can't.

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Speaker 1: He can't tell me nothing for you there.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, Like, you can't. You can't tell anybody. But that doesn't always make you a good or a bad manager, or a good or a bad leader.

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Speaker 4: But you can't. You can't.

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Speaker 5: You can't tell anybody. I can't tell you how you're gonna feel. I can't tell Michael Bier why he sleeps and sucks, right. I can't tell Claudia why she yells at me because I'm late with my picks all the time.

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Speaker 4: Right now.

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Speaker 5: I can't tell him. People how to act or how to feel. You have to experience and then you can figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's fired left and right.

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Speaker 2: You can tell them, you can tell them how you felt, and then they connect that in their mind with how they're feeling in the moment. That's to me, that's where the veteran leadership just ooses.

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Speaker 5: Just last night, Dodger fans are gonna say, look, he was point three one one runs for Toronto. That's why they wont know they won because Trey Savage has disgusting stuff.

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Speaker 1: There were some pitches down in the zone where he nailed it to Max who can be a home plate dump if you wanted thought he had ball four, he did it. You saw that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But I just want to clap it up for Alan Porter.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, great job. He was great in the division. He did the fifteen in a game I did. He was really good in that game too.

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Speaker 1: If every MP was Alan Porter, people would be happier.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they all try to be.

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Speaker 1: At corner and in breaking news right before the show, there were so many manager openings and they're filling up fast, especially on a World Series off day, Jeff Passon reporting the Nats finalizing a deal to hire Blake but Terra as manager. He's thirty three years old. He will be the youngest manager in Major League Baseball in more than fifty years. Four seasons as a minor league manager in the Rays organization. His teams he had a two fifty eight and one forty four record. His first season as manager in that organization, he was twenty five years old, Just a kid, prodigy who's now up to the show. And then he updates the managerial carousel so far and says how there are a few positions left, including Atlanta, San Diego and Colorado. Oh, and also have two of the six that have been filled so far have major league manning experience.

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Speaker 5: Four do not no, I don't even I mean Chross maybe you know, maybe, But I love that they are like his managerial record in the minor league was this.

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Speaker 4: Who cares that A has nothing to do with B. But this is my thing.

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Speaker 5: The new GM in Washington wanted somebody he probably knows. He wanted somebody he could get for barely cheap, and he wanted somebody he could have conversations with about control and.

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Speaker 4: How to do things. Boom boom boom.

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Speaker 5: And the third thing, they wanted somebody from the race, because every organization wants to be the race.

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Speaker 4: So this guy, oh, we've worked for the race for two years. Let's hire them. But are they okay?

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Speaker 5: So then my next question is, we just said Aaron Gleman on talking about Derek Shelton, why they hired him the Nationals. Are they going to try and compete or are they going back to we're going to rebuild, because most teams that are trying to compete one a veteran experience manager, right, And teams that are trying to rebuild hire the younger guy to try to build and learn with the team, and then if they get they're there long enough and they get good. We've seen it, We've seen it all over the place. They fire the young guy and bring in the veteran guy to try to get.

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Speaker 4: Him over the hull.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you what's going on.

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Speaker 4: Okay, tell me.

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Speaker 1: So the ownership group definitely wants to sell the team. They haven't gotten the price they want. They're doing the same thing.

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Speaker 4: So it was just like the twins, are we talking? Twins are net?

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Speaker 1: It's basically the same thing. Are they competing? No, they're not going to be big spenders in the offseason, which is a surprise to many. But last year was the year and everyone was like, oh wait, no, so they're not for real. They're for sale. They are definitely for sale right now. If you gave them the price they wanted, they would sell the team tonight. But they're not going to get it until after the CBA and that's when franchise values will change. So in the meantime, they're not rebuilding. They're definitely not competing during the offseason, they're still building. I would call this team crats still building because they have some nice pieces that they would like to work on developing. That's why they bring a player development guy in and then they will continue to try and build, get high draft picks and trade guys away when they get close to free agency, maybe lock up one or two of the players that they have as part of their core where you can get cost control, because that's still good when you're selling a team and you can say, hey, I have these two stars, they don't cost much. But that is the Nats in thirty seconds.

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Speaker 2: All right, There's nothing I can guarantee more than I can guarantee this. A manager in the big leagues has zero percent to do with the fact that the Gnats cannot produce outside of their number one picks big league players. Yes, people are going to clap back, I mean and say rendo't and Trey Turner and Bryce Harper and Steven Strausber I'm talking produce him. And if and if the Gnats are hiring him for whatever the reasons, you know, it's easy this way, you know, after the CBA sales all that stuff. If they're hiring him because of his player development stuff, hire him in a player development role, not necessarily to be the manager, because I don't know how he's gonna be as manager. Maybe he's a great dude, maybe he is really able to connect with the players. And the Gnats continue to be third, fourth, fifth in the National League East, but to me, don't hire him because you're gonna You're gonna enhance the player development. He's gonna have maybe three meetings at the beginning of before the season starts about player development. Player development is a day to day thing that has to be done, all boots on the ground type of thing. In that role as a big league manager, you have z zero control over player development. You were getting them in the big leagues and you're helping them develop once they're in there to be good based big league baseball players. But they are two separate entities, the manager and player development.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is the thing. Right now, things get sexy, right I'm gonna bring the college coach in.

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Speaker 4: This is what it is. That's what I said.

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Speaker 1: Well do you think that?

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Speaker 5: Also, by the way, the record, like when people are like, oh, you had this record in the minor leagues, you know this crafts. In the minor leagues, you're told what bullpen guy to bring in, when you're told who to pitch, who has to play, who sits.

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Speaker 4: In the big leagues, most.

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Speaker 5: Teams don't do that. You have to make those decisions on the fly. Now, do they have a script, yes, But in the minor leagues. It's literally, Hey, this guy has to get an inning today, no matter what.

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Speaker 4: This guy has to do this. This guy has to do this.

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Speaker 5: In the big leagues, you're trying to win every You're supposed to be trying to win every game, now, do you that's a.

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Speaker 4: Question you can argue at that point. But in the big leagues, we have no idea what kind of he could be the best manager of all that? We have no idea.

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Speaker 1: I have a question. Guys get called up sooner than ever now, right? Do you think this is a response to that, Hey, we're getting players up to the show that need to continue to develop more than they would.

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Speaker 5: You rather have them learn from a guy? This is always my argument, and this is this is not a knocking in both ways. I see it from both ways. Would you rather have a guy a manager that's been around and he's been through situations and can actually talk guys through situations, Or would you have a guy that, Hey, I can develop you and get you ready for the big leagues, but I've never been there.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: This is why the Vitello hiring and this why this tiring are so intriguing to me, because who they bring along with them who their coaching staff is, because they're gonna need people that have been there and done that to talk to some of these players about what it's actually like. We had this conversation about the playoffs the Blue James. Until you've lived it, you can't explain it to somebody. Till you've done it, you can't explain it. So it's these these This manager cycle has been fascinating because there's all these guys that haven't really done it and they've never been managers or coach is at the big league level.

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Speaker 4: So we wish them all up. We'll see how it goes. But for the most part, this guy doesn't work out right, this is work. I can't try it, or did and I don't I and I am not. Believe me.

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Speaker 2: You've heard all my conspiracies. I love thinking outside the box. I love well, why why is this going to work? What does he do that's going to bring a NAT's team to the brink of the playoffs to you know, enhance their season by ten wins? What is an example? Previously, because if you go too far outside the box, you're not even participating in what's going on in the box that everyone else is in. I need an example of why this will work or like where it has worked before, and people will say, well, theo Epstein was the youngest general manager ever and look what he's done. You're right, absolutely, I'm not talking about the youth. I'm talking about the overall package of inexperience and the youth and just the respect level of what he's jumping into.

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Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw. This is David Assay writing about this Kershaw. I made the walk from bullpen to dugout after the last out. This is the last game for Klayton at the Dodgers Stadium in his career. He was on the field after the game, playing catch with his son, waving to his fam. This is it.

00:26:30
Speaker 4: That's it.

00:26:31
Speaker 5: Never beyond Dodger Stadium again as a player, maybe as a coach, maybe he was throwing out the first batch the World Series. Yeah, but not as a player. And he made this decision, and good for him. He made a decision. He feels his way from his family, so take it all in. It sucks they lost for him, I mean not for the Blue Jays, but it sucks that they lost. It would have imagine if they would have won, and this would have been his way out have been really awesome, but they didn't. He still might win, no, I know, but I mean at Dodger Stadium, right right, that would have been the ultimate way a while.

00:26:56
Speaker 4: But it didn't work out. But he got to enjoy it.

00:26:59
Speaker 5: And there's videos of with his kids and taking pictures of the ground screwing all that.

00:27:02
Speaker 4: Good for you, Clayton.

00:27:03
Speaker 1: They won the game he pitched in.

00:27:04
Speaker 4: Good for you Clayton.

00:27:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a moment.

00:27:07
Speaker 4: Very few, like they.

00:27:08
Speaker 2: Said, very few guys are able to go out and knowing like this is the last time they step on the field.

00:27:13
Speaker 4: So good for him.

00:27:15
Speaker 2: I went out in the COVID season and I remember walking across the field pet COO. We just lost to the Rays at Petco. They were celebrating on the field and there was no fans in the stands except for my kids and my wife. So I understand what he feels because you know, that's the last time you're going to be on the field. And I hope it looks like from the pictures he's happy. That's all you can ask of anybody when they're done playing.

00:27:42
Speaker 1: Hey, Katie was doing great reporting on the Cardinals changes under hein Bloom they're making staff changes throughout the Oregon addition expanding the pro scouting department. They will add a director of Hitting and an international Scouting director along with multiple support roles, kind of filling up some spots that they didn't have because they had to make I don't.

00:28:03
Speaker 4: Know that Mozilla didn't want to have this. No, he wasn't allowed, That's what I'm saying. So now because the loser, the Duitz are now allowing him.

00:28:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're trying to say, right, fine, uncle, this didn't work the last few years, let's bring it back. She said. Expect a big emphasis on adding to the player acquisition departments this winter. They plan to add multiple positions and increase funding pro and international scouting. This won't impact the titles of their current assistant gms, but it will give them more support. Example A in this case, Trey Savage. I heard the scout that was like basically living down in Carolina. I mean he does, just attending all his starts, getting to know him and constantly telling his org.

00:28:44
Speaker 4: This the guy.

00:28:44
Speaker 1: We probably won't get him because we're twentieth and we're going to talk about this later, but this is the guy.

00:28:48
Speaker 4: But remember Cardinals didn't have as much two things on this one.

00:28:51
Speaker 5: Their organizations remember the moneyball, Like, we don't even need scouts. We just watched them on TV and do the analytics. If you don't have a local scout, they're grinding and knows the kid and knows this makeup.

00:29:02
Speaker 4: You don't. You don't stand up for this guy.

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00:30:18
Speaker 4: My head isn't fascinating. He's okay, because.

00:30:21
Speaker 1: We're gonna work on it.

00:30:22
Speaker 4: It's my head doesn't fit right.

00:30:24
Speaker 1: It's Halloween. Anything goes so ken.

00:30:27
Speaker 5: I should have been the sexy nom then. Anyways, back to Ken Ken.

00:30:30
Speaker 1: Right as the Dodgers face elimination, their deficiency seas are showing up everywhere. He said, think about it. Taking some parts of the article, I talk a lot every day, he said, think about it. If not for historic performances by Yamamoto in Game two and Otani in Game three, the Dodgers might not have a win in this series. And he talks about how the position player group is aging. They enter this postseason with four aces health the how often does that happen where they're all clicking and healthy at the same time. Is this the best chance we'll see you.

00:31:07
Speaker 4: But this was the greatest team ever assembled. Remember the beginning of the year everyone, but we can say that. I'm gonna say this.

00:31:14
Speaker 5: Their starting pitching has been really good the whole year and when they're healthy and the postseason, right no Copek, no grad Ll, no Scott, no Tanner Scott, no Vessia. Right now, I mean their bullpen is not what they envisioned it being. And the biggest thing, though, is their offense has gone away and it wasn't great. We had Joe Davis. It's been gone like this for months. It's not just in the postseason now the Reds. They hammered the Reds, but other than that, there's been no offense. And Mookie Betts, I love dude. I love Mooki Betts. When he said he's like, I've been terrible.

00:31:48
Speaker 4: He owned it. You know what.

00:31:50
Speaker 5: I respect you, Mooki for saying that. I played with Mooki when he first came up and he was great. But I respect the hell out of someone to stand in front of the cameras in a city like Los Angeles in the World Series and say I've been terrible. I need to figure it out quick. Good for you, Mookie, but their offense has been terrible, terrible. It's Chuck charles Burg who's a terrible.

00:32:07
Speaker 1: Terrible And there are a lot of guys with veteran, experienced crats who are getting up there in aage.

00:32:13
Speaker 4: They are.

00:32:16
Speaker 2: Probably a little too soon to say the age thing, just because we're not.

00:32:22
Speaker 4: Like, let's let's pump the brakes.

00:32:23
Speaker 2: Maybe once they lose, maybe once they struggle, you know, halfway through the year next year, but this stuff's not going to happen like they these guys put together at bats consistently as a team. Right now, they're up against it. Every team, every team goes through these struggles. And last year during this World Series, we wondered, are the Dodgers going to be the team that finally gets everybody, you know, gets over the hump in the playoffs, because even Jeter was joking about it when he talked to Mookie. Well, it's only really half a World Series win. But now they're supposed to be this dynasty. This is how baseball just ebbs and flows, and their team is built as a solid foundation team.

00:33:09
Speaker 4: I don't think they're too old.

00:33:12
Speaker 2: Their starters are going to all come back because they're not gonna get over work during the regular season and they'll be.

00:33:17
Speaker 4: Back again here next year. But they didn't lose yet.

00:33:20
Speaker 2: They still have the best pitcher in the playoffs going in Yamamoto, And when you push it to a game seven, it's a coin flip.

00:33:28
Speaker 1: Just but this is the chance. This is the team that can finally figure out winning back to back titles.

00:33:41
Speaker 5: And they were supposed to not lose a game the whole year. Yeah, they're ruining baseball. They're the worst team in the world for like my hats like the know ye, but yeah, we're the worst team ever. We we you know, sting in baseball history. Because the Dodgers are going to win back to back titles. Well, the Blue Jays are saying.

00:34:00
Speaker 4: Not so fast people, as the course used to say, not so fast, my friend. And yes, Yamamoto could go out and deal. But Yamamoto could go out.

00:34:07
Speaker 6: And get whacked. He got hit against the Phillies. It's possible. In the first five games, the starters, I know, I know that the Blue Jays are leading three to two in the first five. Don't they look like the better, more complete team, the Blue Jays?

00:34:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. There again.

00:34:23
Speaker 5: We said a last time in the post game, the Blue Jays are literally one swing away from this series being over for to one.

00:34:28
Speaker 4: They're celebrating in La last night. Freddy freemans, if they could have figured out a way to score a run, the series was over it.

00:34:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, they might have the best starter and the best obviously player overall, but in terms of complete team, oh, contact, even pop, defense, bullpen, everything, they've got most categories, the Dodgers kind of look.

00:34:55
Speaker 4: Like the twenty four Yankees a little bit.

00:34:57
Speaker 1: That quite the fundamental issues, That's what I'm saying.

00:35:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've made some mistakes and.

00:35:01
Speaker 1: They don't run the basis like drunks.

00:35:03
Speaker 4: Well, no, that's true.

00:35:05
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. That was John Sterling. Yeah somebody, Yeah, John Sterling, I think right. Last year was his last year.

00:35:12
Speaker 4: M Faus came over.

00:35:15
Speaker 1: Running the bases like drunks. So I don't think it's like that. But I'll give credit to Dodger fans as a whole. You know, we have our Dodger's Territory show. I tune in a lot. They've been critical of this team, and you can say some of it's jaded, but they have pointed out flaws. Joe Davis has pointed that out too. He's calling a lot of Dodger games during the year. He's like, there was a two and a half month stretch where this team couldn't hit a lick and everybody knows about their bullpen issues towards the end of the season that have carried into the postseason. This is, by no means a perfect team. This is probably a depressing clip because we clip stuff like this off for ten minutes and put it on the YouTube channel. Dodger friends are gonna big grass a big we suck. We're terrible. You're not terrible. It's a super talented team. It just doesn't look like the best team in baseball, and it certainly doesn't look like one of the best teams of all time. I think we should wipe that part away. One of the best teams ever. We saw that from quite a few media members throwing that out there on Twitter and articles. This might be the best team ever? Why because they swept the Brewers. That's it best team ever? Because they swept the Brewers.

00:36:29
Speaker 4: Not for me.

00:36:30
Speaker 1: Do you think they're should be even in the same centen No.

00:36:33
Speaker 4: They wouldn't be in my top five, Top five.

00:36:35
Speaker 1: Otani is the best player ever. I think we can make a case for that. But best team.

00:36:40
Speaker 4: They didn't win. They didn't even get a buye.

00:36:42
Speaker 1: There's auto Auts right now in the lineup too that they've been trying to.

00:36:45
Speaker 5: Figure out of them, and well there's six and whoever Krats picks to get is be as locked.

00:36:49
Speaker 4: Those are the.

00:36:52
Speaker 5: If Krafts picked Otani even go for five Freddy, oh, Krats pick me up?

00:36:59
Speaker 1: Screwed?

00:37:00
Speaker 2: Well, I already I already locked in my lock for tomorrow, so already locked it in.

00:37:07
Speaker 5: Hopefully it's whoever it is whatever on Halloween, whatever hit or you pick tomorrow.

00:37:11
Speaker 4: They're like, no, there's a block cat No please.

00:37:14
Speaker 1: Though, don't do any picks picked the umpire, Yes, pick porter? How many correct balls and strikes? I have one final comment and then we got to get to our next guest. This clip is going to be watched by thousands, but half the comments are just going to be about the fact that you guys wear backwards hats.

00:37:33
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:37:33
Speaker 5: I know, well, I'm trying to be like, there are some people but if I put my what if I here? Now, do I look like the troll or the no.

00:37:40
Speaker 1: Oh, that's good.

00:37:42
Speaker 4: That's that's perfect.

00:37:44
Speaker 1: That's good. You should wear that more often.

00:37:46
Speaker 4: I don't have the plant because Scott moved the plant on us, but I didn't.

00:37:49
Speaker 1: I can't get it or I'll get disconnected. But for those of you out there that are obsessed with telling AJ and krats their hats are worn back.

00:37:59
Speaker 5: You know you look, you want to know my hats backwards because look at this hair. I don't have time like Scott to quaffit daily.

00:38:04
Speaker 4: I think it looks good like that, but look, it's not quaft.

00:38:10
Speaker 1: Mine's certainly not quafts.

00:38:13
Speaker 4: Where my hat forwards? Does that make people feel like me better?

00:38:17
Speaker 2: Does this make guys? Does this make you guys respect me more? I want guys wearing their hats the correct way, and you guys are gonna run sprints every time I see one of y'all not doing it the right way, because this is how we play baseball.

00:38:31
Speaker 4: The small things. It's the small things. They're gonna make us win, make us better men, and make us a better team. That's what I'm doing. Let's go in Minnesota Twins.

00:38:42
Speaker 1: Next up, the new trend might be hiring military sergeants to be.

00:38:47
Speaker 4: Made they tried to banister.

00:38:51
Speaker 1: They tried it, Pirates tried to do military drills. MLB's most interesting man is rookie Trey Is Savage. Absolutely dominated the Dodgers to give the Blue Jays a three to two series edge. Don't forget how he dominated the Yankees in the Alds. This dude has barely touched the big leagues, but he is playing postseason ball as well as any rookie pitcher in Major League history. And there's more to the story. There's actually a lot more to the story.

00:39:30
Speaker 3: Why.

00:39:31
Speaker 1: Because he didn't think he was going to be doing this right now. So we're learning a lot about Trey number one taking classes at the moment, taking classes, how many four four?

00:39:46
Speaker 4: Trying to go into classes.

00:39:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he thought October was going to be kind of chill. This yeah they do, but not when they expect.

00:39:56
Speaker 4: You know, as Maggie Johnson said, this is a big game. Whoever wins this takes control of the series.

00:40:00
Speaker 1: Trey knew it.

00:40:01
Speaker 4: Trey Is Savage was to saw that tweet.

00:40:03
Speaker 1: He did you know why? Because he was he was locked in crats. There was a pain on him to show off how locked in he was And did you hear the quote that he said, Oh you didn't hear about this?

00:40:12
Speaker 4: No, but okay, go ahead because then I have another question about this.

00:40:15
Speaker 1: Okay, because you're really going to enjoy this. So there's there's this picture of him in the clubhouse. Here it is because we have the best production team in the pass and they says Trey Savage is locked in, and they show the name plate and him with the headphones on. But what you don't see, well you can kind of see that he's on his phone. He goes, quote, I saw something on Instagram that someone took a video of me on my phone saying I was locked in, but I was just doom scrolling on TikTok and Instagram reels.

00:40:44
Speaker 4: I mean, it's such a screen ager, such a screen ager. It's awesome.

00:40:47
Speaker 5: And he said college last year, this kid, But it's awesome, but I'm still in college.

00:40:53
Speaker 4: He is still in college, right, he's got yeah. True.

00:40:56
Speaker 5: But when they showed his parents, why his parents, We can't get his parents blue hats. They just have group their waste management MLB. Look, we can't get a We can't get.

00:41:05
Speaker 1: Them like some Blue Jays gear Like MLB got to them first.

00:41:09
Speaker 5: Scott can you or Cras, Can you call the Blue Jays? Who's the home guy in Toronto? Now, the clubhouse guy? Can we call him and get some can we get can we get some gear?

00:41:20
Speaker 4: I mean I got some extra hats here, like if we want just do you want some hats? Me?

00:41:23
Speaker 2: Tell me what the savage I'll drive them, I'll drive them up there. He only lives twenty minutes from my house. So Boyertown, Pennsylvania, kid, that's what That's what they do.

00:41:32
Speaker 4: Though.

00:41:32
Speaker 2: When you're built in the fire, the cauldron of Pennsylvania, you know what you show up in big moments.

00:41:40
Speaker 4: Florida guys, they kind of like flake Off m right.

00:41:45
Speaker 1: One of his four online classes that he's taking right now, media criticism.

00:41:50
Speaker 4: Nice.

00:41:50
Speaker 5: That sounds like a fun clause. Just so that's why he's on Instagram. He's just commenting on everything.

00:41:55
Speaker 1: He goes through our clips.

00:41:56
Speaker 5: He just comments, Like all the people that are all on Twitter, Instagram, the comments, you know, they just they learned media criticism.

00:42:03
Speaker 1: That's good. Here's another one to make him the most interesting man we've touched on this. But I want to make sure that we emphasize that.

00:42:11
Speaker 4: He can build a barn with his bare hands like craps.

00:42:13
Speaker 1: He's the most interesting man, horse and buggy, even when he's home. But wait, there's more. But wait, there's more. He has to check out when he leaves, put his stuff in his car like a storage unit, and then get back in town, get all of his stuff and recheck in and react.

00:42:32
Speaker 5: We had this, I had this conversation about the postseason process.

00:42:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, we used to check in and check out all the time.

00:42:38
Speaker 1: But I have a question.

00:42:38
Speaker 5: We used to do this because your lease is up and you don't want to pay. If you're on the road for a week, you don't want to pay for that week, especially when you're not making a ton of money. So the hotel lets you check out. Now, when I was a triple A, we used to in Salt Lake. We used to stay had this Candlewood sweets and it was like ten or fifteen dollars a day and we check out and they just let us store our luggae while we're on the road trips in the closet and then we come back and they have our rooms ready. It was great because they had the back then Canada with sweets. We're like, oh my gosh, four seasons Peninsula, whatever I'm on whatever, you know, but this is.

00:43:09
Speaker 4: Not you're making this a thing. This is not a thing.

00:43:12
Speaker 5: When I was in the World Series two thousand and five, I'd go, I stayed in the hotel, I'd check out and we went on the road and I'd come back and they were like, your room's ready.

00:43:21
Speaker 1: Can't you just stay?

00:43:23
Speaker 4: You gotta pay for it.

00:43:25
Speaker 1: I know. But for Trey, for example.

00:43:27
Speaker 4: He's not making that. He's not making that now.

00:43:28
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna get a nice playoff share as he talked about, yes.

00:43:31
Speaker 4: But right now he might not have. I mean, he was a first round pick, he.

00:43:34
Speaker 1: Made four million dollars signing bonus. Yeah, but still yeah, I'm just saying.

00:43:39
Speaker 5: He's probably got one bag of clothes that he's because again, this kid was started an able. She's probably got one bag of clothes, right, great cratzy that he's lived with his whole life. He's probably got like one suit if they still even wear suits anymore, which most teams don't. Right, So he's just got this one bag.

00:43:52
Speaker 4: He just whatever. He throws in his car and does his laundry washing fold.

00:43:57
Speaker 5: If you don't know what a washing fold is, off you drop it off, you pay like a certain amount per pound, and you pick it up and smells all nice and it's all folded and you hand just they just hand it to you and it's all fold and you don't have to worry.

00:44:09
Speaker 4: About It's awesome.

00:44:10
Speaker 1: Can you pay the club he used to do it or that's.

00:44:12
Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys don't really do that. I mean, some guys used to do that, but.

00:44:16
Speaker 1: Guys, yeah, it's easier.

00:44:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll double down on this. Two thousand and fourteen, we're in the World Series. We went residence in for the entire month of October because I got traded to the Royals in July. I was, you know, in and out of hotels, you check out, and then my family came to the postseason, so we were doing all this and then checking into the hotel in San Francisco or when we went to Baltimore. So you're checking in and out, and if you find a hotel like AJ said, that keeps your stuff, the other issue is like, that's huge. The other issue is your other teammates are there, and some some times your teammates are in the hotel and they don't have to play the next day. You know, a pitcher that just pitched. Hotels can get loud, you don't get sleep during the playoffs. So there's other things that are It's not just a tray you savage life.

00:45:16
Speaker 1: The old card experience was a slow burned, long grind. Right, find the box, find the pack you want, open the pack. Most of the cards?

00:45:30
Speaker 2: Nah?

00:45:31
Speaker 1: Right, you got one that's worth something, Now send it in for grading. I mean, the list goes on and are you want to sell it? Now?

00:45:38
Speaker 3: You got to put it up.

00:45:39
Speaker 1: Then you got to ship it out. There's one solution for that, and it's called.

00:45:43
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00:46:05
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00:46:15
Speaker 3: It's like butter baby.

00:46:28
Speaker 1: All right, let's slap about two minutes to go. First off, apologies, Krats. We've been so busy lately that I recognize that I've been missing some Kratz hat stays.

00:46:39
Speaker 4: That's okay.

00:46:40
Speaker 2: I was wearing a white SOPs hat for like three days straight and nobody noticed. I mean, why not? And they get their new manager. Why not everybody gets a hat. Maybe that's why Derek Shelton became the manager.

00:46:52
Speaker 4: There is that the Marlins Marlin is it the Marlins? Nope?

00:46:57
Speaker 2: Nope, Washington, No, No, Minnesota.

00:47:03
Speaker 4: At the North Star.

00:47:04
Speaker 1: That's versatile. Like, if you're a Twins fan right now, you're embarrassed. Instead of buying a paper back.

00:47:08
Speaker 5: Go like Rally Cabin and be like, look, I'm actually a Nationals fan. Yah, I got a new manager too.

00:47:13
Speaker 1: And then you're embarrassed about the Nats. And then you're like, wait, but the Marlins are a little less embarrassing right now. Actually had kind of a decent season. Yeah, and then when they trade Sandy al Contre, you can be like and then they just buy a new hat.

00:47:31
Speaker 5: I'm a I'm a fan. I'm a fan of I love it. I actually really do like Minnesota. It was a great place to come up and as a as young player, yeah, they were a really good organization to come up under. You learned a lot. They forced you to learn a lot about the game because they weren't just gonna with Tom Kelly there. They weren't just going to call you up and say go get them. You had to know how to do a lot of stuff.

00:47:52
Speaker 1: I wasn't trolling earlier. I'm serious. Derek Shelton is going to feel like he's on a first class flight now I feel that way.

00:48:02
Speaker 4: Congrats to Shelter. I love Shelty, and congrats w Terra two.

00:48:07
Speaker 1: The Twins organization has done it better than the Pirates organization in the past a lot of years.

00:48:14
Speaker 4: The Pirates have won one more series in the playoffs in the last.

00:48:17
Speaker 1: Well, the Twins cards.

00:48:19
Speaker 5: Twenty some years and the Pirates have the Twins Are the Pirates Twins?

00:48:23
Speaker 1: Yeah? The Twins app right, they won one more.

00:48:26
Speaker 2: Won Wait till the salary in guys, you're gonna be eating your words sad.

00:48:31
Speaker 4: Do you watch app? Did you watch the was the guy's name?

00:48:34
Speaker 5: We had on more yesterday it said how much money the Dodgs are making if there was a cap. Trust me, owners, they want a cap because they make way more money.

00:48:41
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, way more money.

00:48:44
Speaker 2: No, it's because the Pirates and the Twins. They're gonna be able to win now because they've been held down.

00:48:50
Speaker 4: That's what it is. That's what it is.

00:48:53
Speaker 3: M hm.