Dave Dombrowski: Harper WON’T be traded, Orion convo, Wheeler update

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Speaker 1: Bill's president of baseball operations, Dave Dombrowski, joining the show right now.

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Speaker 2: Dave, good to see you.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, I'm doing fine. How about yourselves?

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Speaker 2: Very good?

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Speaker 4: Finally finally we got it. Gosh, I've been chasing this dude for years. Finally got a fellow Pollock to come on the show.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if he was ever unfortunate because that means we got knocked out of the playoffs, So that's the unfortunate part of it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I didn't want that. I wouldn't want that, but yes, I'm proud to be final. So thank you for because I've had to go into other booths to try to find this guy. I've had to chase down Brian Barber, I've had to chase down Sam Fold, I've had to chase down Hora.

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Speaker 5: What's your name? Hora? Uh Na? Yeah, I had to chase through him.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, can we just get to talk to Dave around He's day guy. Dave. Did you ever try and acquire a J.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, I did not do that. Well, now you're stuck with I wasn't too many times when he was with the White Sox, so you beat me too.

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Speaker 5: Often I wasn't good enough.

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Speaker 4: You know, he had Victor Martinez and Alex Avila and all those all star guys.

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Speaker 5: It just had meat on there, just schlepping away.

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Speaker 1: Aaron all start to well, So let's get into it. I mean, first of all, what do you think of the World Series matchup? Obviously the team that's representing the National League knocked out your team, So what do you think you've seen from them?

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Speaker 3: Well, I hope it's a great series. Have been, of course, been watching the other league too, with Seattle and Toronto. I'm watching them play throughout. But the Dodgers are really good and I think any club that plays them at this point has has their work cut out for him. And for me, it's primarily their starting pitching. And their starting pitching is is top of the level right now, so if you're scoring runs off of them, you're doing a pretty good job. The biggest question for me is with Toronto, Wilso has a very good club. When you take this one week layoff that the Dodgers are going to take, that sometimes it does affect your hitters and will your pitchers hold them down enough to not give them any runs? Basically, but if you're going to beat the Dodgers, defending champs, You're going to really play well.

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Speaker 6: Do you look at that series that when you guys playing against them, and do you look back and go, man, because they had a higher payroll, or because of a move I didn't make, that's why they won, or do you watch the games and go we were in the right spot. Our lineup had more hits pitch. Our starting pitching out pitched their starting pitching, which has gotten all these flowers the rest of the postseason. You had them in three of the four categories of baseball except for the wins and losses.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I look at it more. And it's a great question because you can look at it so many different ways, and basically, when you lose, they all break your heart. But I really looked at that. We went toe to toe with a really, really good club and we're in a position where you look at the first game, you know, a bad pitch, three run homer, and all of a sudden we lose five to three. The second game, very unfortunate as far as you know, a bunt that we put on that didn't work at that particular time, time run on second base with nobody out in the ninth inning. Third game, of course we won, and look what happened in the fourth game. We saw that. As far as it's so, the way I look at it is and even in that second game I've talked about it in the case that they scored four runs in one inning, Well, perkerm came in, busted, the bat broke, the bat turner comes in, makes a good play, throws it to the plate. The ball goes to the first base side of the plate rather than the third base side, very understandably, he's rushed. The ball's on the third base side. They don't score any runs at anything. So it's just that close. And I look at the difference between us as being very very small, but yet they beat us. And that's all accounts. So you got to look at trying to get better this year and do it any way you possibly can, because they're not going away, Dave.

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Speaker 4: I saw John Middleton last week or so, and it was talking to him and I said to him, I was like, you know you're going to get one. First of all, I said, you're going to get one. Just just say the course, and he you know, it gives you that look like I hope so right, But then he brought up the strike three with Sanchez, the one that was called the ball in the abs and all that, and I've heard your.

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Speaker 5: Comments on that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if that ball, if that strike three goes the other way, then you don't have the inning with the whole thing where they tie the game, and then the kirkering thing doesn't probably happen. Do you feel that, I know you've said it, but do you really feel that way that if the umpire calls that ball in strike three, then that changes?

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Speaker 5: It's two two.

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Speaker 4: You guys come back to Philly and anything happen because man, Christopher Sanchez pitched awesome that night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you never know how it's going to go. I mean, it might make a difference. At a particular time, I was thinking back and this was you guys don't remember this, but in two thousand and nine, I was with the Tigers and we played the Minnesota Twins in Game one sixty three.

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Speaker 2: We tied.

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Speaker 3: We played in Minnesota, we lost the game. We lost it in an extra innings and there was a pitch that hit Brandon Inge that would have given us a two run lead, and the home played umpire at that time. Randy Marsh tremendous umpire, good umpire. We didn't have replay at that time, saw the replay afterwards and was heartbroken because he missed the call would have given us. It had been a different game at that point, we would have gone into potentially at that point of everything else would have follow a pattern. We'd have gone on and played in the alcs at that time. So our alds at that time. So you never know what's going to happen from there, but it gives you a better chance, of course, because it keeps you alive at that particular time.

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Speaker 6: Have you had a personal conversation with Kirkering? Have you? And do you guys have something with the organization in place to check in with them, because I think there's a lot of people Dodgers and Phillies fans and baseball fans who are heartbroken for the kid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel terrible for him, and he's a quality kid and he's a good pitcher. Yes, I spoke to him after the game. I spoke to him and got back here. We do have the type of support system that will stay in contact with them throughout the winter time. I think you need to have him a little time to breathe, but for sure we will definitely do that because I'm sure he's heartbroken too. Again, tough kid, but we need they have the type of support system and we do within the organization, from the mental end of it, from the poaching end of it, from the front office end of it, that we'll all stay in contact with him and make sure that he's doing as well as he possibly can't.

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Speaker 4: Dave, by the way, that I hate to bring up bad memories at two thousand and nine game once, that was an awesome game. I know, the guys lost. That was extra innings. I mean, that was an awesome game.

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Speaker 5: And and the.

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Speaker 4: Umpires they hated y'all before replay Between that and the Andres Galaraga Perfect Game that, I mean, man, you'll had y'all had.

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Speaker 5: Some terrible calls.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, no, yes, I mean then you had the date.

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Speaker 5: Oh you had the David Artis.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just thinking about because obviously I know all these because I was in the I was in the central for AWL, like they had the David Ortiz Grand Slam or Tory Hunter almost killed. I mean, there was like, gosh, dang, I look back and and the thing for me about what I know you're with the Phillies now, but when I look back on the Tigers, how close you guys were a year and in year out, like to just finally getting over the eighty four, right, I mean twelve you lost to the Giants thirteen obvious see the Red Sox.

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Speaker 5: I mean, oh, I'm just like, gosh, if I was, I'm like, you get so close and you just oh.

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Speaker 3: You're as you know, the game breaks your heart, right is what it does more than that's what makes winning, so you know, feel so great. And I'll go back in my own and you look at the Braves when they won the one World championship. She just telling the guys here, we're looking at eleven in the last fourteen years I've been with the club that's been the postseason right one time we want well, I mean ten other time you went home with your heart broken. Sometimes you think you have a club that should win it. Sometimes you always feel you can win it, but you also know that sometimes you're facing somebody that is just a better team, and you do your best to win it, but so many heartbreaks, and that's just you have to bounce back. You have to come back the next year. You have to regroup and try to get yourself better. But it doesn't do you any good to just keep on crying over them, because we'd be crying a lot. So you have to move forward.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 6: We buttered you up with the easy ones. Now I'm going to ask you the hard one. From the player's point of view, your comments about Bryce do you feel like they were misconstrued? Because we talked about it on here and I was kind of like, I don't know, maybe it's a little motivation. Which do you feel like your comments about him, you know, not being elite right now or if he'll ever get back to being elite because you are honest and we appreciate honesty in baseball. That is like the greatest trait besides hitting homers.

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Speaker 3: Well, and it's of course got a life of its own. I said so many things in a one hour press conference, and this is the one thing that gets out there. First of all, I mean, to me, Bryce Harper is one of the best players in the game of baseball. And when I say he didn't have it, they asked me what type of year did you think he had? And I said, he had a very good year. I don't think he had an elite year. And when I say that, when I think of Bryce Harper, it's a compliment because the reality is, there are I don't know eight ten players in the game of baseball every year when they're not, let's say, in the MVP consideration for whatever reason. Sometimes it can be an injury factor. Sometimes they just have a bad year, but whatever it's it's not an elite year for them. So the reality is is that he's a great player, He's a future Hall of Famer. This thing's got a life of its own.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: I've been reading that all the Phillies made trade Bryce Harper. That couldn't be further from the truth. We love him. I think he's a great player. He's a very important part of our team. I've seen him have better years. I look for him to have better years, but I think what ends up happening, This is not meant for him. And I was reading an article yesterday. It wasn't about Bryce, was actually about Kyle Schwarber that Mike Schmidt talked about, and I thought it was so good, And I was looking back at my Miguel Cabrera days, probably the best as good a player that I've been around year in year out, and he got to thirty three and he had won the Triple Crown. He had been the MVP two years a gow and he wasn't quite the same player. Well, Mike Schmid's comments because I asked him about Kyle, said, you're getting into your middle thirties, moving a little bit into your late thirties. If you can stay healthy, continue a really really strong workout program in the off season, your flexibility has to be there. Your batspeed opoly obviously, has to stay up. Your eyes have to stay You've got to be able to see have a twenty twenty vision when I played, and it's more important to get good insight eyesight as you go along, there's a lot of non mechanical baseball swing issues. They have to stay right. So basically that's what happens with every player. I mean the reality now, I'll take my chances with Bryce more than most because Bryce is an elite talent, and he's a very very talented individual and he's driven. So I think that it's a shame where this has gone because it wasn't meant to be a criticism. It was just he didn't have a to me. And when you talk about Bryce, and again it's a few other guys when they aren't in the MVP considerations, well it's probably not as good a your as that they've had other times.

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Speaker 4: Right, So does that mean you're signing him to an extension? Because remember when the last we we wanted an extension. So I mean, just just keep signing them.

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Speaker 5: I mean, why not, it's not your money, just kind of way.

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Speaker 3: Fortunately, he's already got a long contract with us, so I'm pretty good.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, that's fair, that's fair.

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Speaker 4: But you know he's looking for those you know, to play at least fifties, so he wants, you know, ten more years or whatever.

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Speaker 5: He was out there. I hope it happens.

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Speaker 3: I hope it happens for him.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, you just don't want to be the guy to sign him in case it does happen, because then you know, it could be it could be your neck on the line.

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Speaker 3: But I get it.

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Speaker 2: I know you.

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Speaker 3: My neck's been on the line before, so it wouldn't be the first time.

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Speaker 4: And listen, we're both in the Polish Sports Hall of Fame, Okay, so we see each other. Okay, we get that's right, that's right, right, all right? What about the other guys that are free agents. Schwarber obviously is the big name, but Ranger Swaz has been great for your real muto is there. Do you know your payroll yet, as mister Middleton come to you and said, hey, Dave, this is what you're going to have and this is what we have to work around.

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Speaker 5: Or does that happen later in the offseason.

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Speaker 3: Well, every owner is different. With whom I worked, John and I stay in close contact with that. We know it's a really big winter time for us. So we've been talking about this for weeks and I propose something to him. He's given me an approval on it. So I know where my payroll is and it's still a very hefty payroll. But I still think it's a challenge. It's going to be hard to sign all of our players just because there's so many of them, and we're also challenged with some younger players that finally in our system are ready to step in and play for us. After a couple whiles, a guy like Justin Crawford Andrew Pater we feel will be ready to play with us.

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Speaker 5: This year.

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Speaker 3: We've got a young kid by named Aidan Miller. That was a number one pick. That's been very, very talented individuals. So we're going to have it's gonna be a tough winner. We're gonna have to do a lot of balancing. I think we have a chance to still really have a good club because I think we'll bring some of the guys back, We'll have financial wherewithal and I think anytime you can have a system, Wheeler should be back. Anytime you can throw Wheeler, you can throw Sanchez, you can throws Blizardo, you can throw Nola as your top four. No matter what happens with sures, you're in pretty good shape to move forward.

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Speaker 6: Do you have an update on Wheeler where he's at with his rehab but also as far as where he's at if this blood clot situation was completely taken care of and won't reoccur after they took the rib out in the thoracic.

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Speaker 3: Out, Yes, I do, because I saw him the other day was actually down I think it was Tuesday, was down in the clubhouse. So he's going to be in Philadelphia all wintertime. Our head athletic trainer, Paul Bukite was working with him at that particular day, so I chatted with him. He showed me his scars. He feels no pain, he said, he feels great. They're now getting to the point where they need some more flexibility with them, and they should. This should have cleared it up. They're not anticipating any setbacks, not expecting this to crow once again. So he's in a solid position now. The timing will be, it was given to us from six to eight months that he will be ready again. He's a gift gifted athlete. He's elite and his talent his jeans just like Bryce is in their regard. So we're hopeful it'll be on the front end, which would even get him ready for opening Day. But right now he's doing very good and he's going to stay here all winter, committed to getting ready as soon as he possibly can.

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Speaker 6: That's great to hear somebody coming back from something like that. You had mentioned late in the game kind of somewhat killed you earlier in the season in the playoffs. Late in the game, kind of killed you guys a little bit there. Earlier earlier in the season, Jose Alvarado tested positive for PD and can you tell me your reaction to that? In a sense of anger, sadness, you know, the fact that we're you know, you're, you're you as a team are building kind of around him. Also to be a big piece of that late inning and then the season ends where you guys lose kind of late in the game. It would have been nice to have a Jose Alvarado you have an option. Do you feel the drug test, the positive drug test will will come into the decision of resigning him picking up his option or not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think when you talk about the emotions at the time, I think I would describe as all of them. You know, you're upset because here you go, you're top reliever at that time, is getting suspended. You're angry. I'm also then have a good relationship with Jose and between he and then Jorge val Andy we came in. I got the whole story from his perspective. There was a part of me that felt sad for him because I don't think he was trying to do anything that. I mean, when you look at Jose Alvarado, the last thing he needs to do is get stronger. He's trying to lose weight on it because he's as strong as an ox. So I felt bad for Himnett and I knew when he came back it was very tough to get ready than and pitched. So I don't think that the testing perspective will affect us what goes into the wintertime decision. We have to decide what we want to do with that. But I'll be surprised if he's not back with us, And yoh, it breaks your heart. I mean, but it's one of those the other the other part with it for a while. Like with us, we got Duran at the trading deadline. He did a fantastic job for us, and we signed David Robertson, who pitched well for us, and then maybe a little bit less later in the year. But we had felt that one of our left handed relievers would be able to go into the bullpen for us and help us in the postseason because we had Wheeler, we had Sworas, we had Lizarda, we had Sanchez. We all of a sudden, when Wheeler went down, that also eliminated that possibility. So there's just so much that goes into the overall aspect of how you put your club together. But I think of all of a sudden, we had one of those guys coming out of the bullpen too. You never know how again things would take place, but we didn't.

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Speaker 4: Dave, How don't you can't you come up with your philosophy because I love it. I mean you you will go to win every year? Right, You're like prospects, You're like Aj Preller Jan Diego. Now you keep you keep them around a little bit more maybe than Preller does. But you're like, I'm going for it. Listen, we have to trade our fourth and third and second best prospect, and we might keep paying, we might keep Miller, but we're going to trade everyone else and go get the guys we need. I love that as a former player. How come more gms aren't like that? And they always want to say, well, ten years from now, you know our seventeenth best prospect.

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Speaker 5: First of all, no team has seventeen prospects, but our.

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Speaker 4: Seventeenth best prospect might be a bench guy for us in ten years.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: I was lucky when I first started in baseball, and I started with the White Sox. Roland Heima was the general manager, and he was my mentor, great baseball man, and he basically it puts into your mind you don't have a chance to win all the time, so within reason, if you have a chance to win, you go for it. And that's really been my philosophy. Now when I say that, within reason you want to keep some prospects, I remember way back when we had Justin Verlander and people were offered me pretty good big league players for him. I said, well, I don't think we're going to trade Verlander. So you do that, but you don't want that web to be too large because you're in a position where the reality is a lot of them don't make it. Just be quality big league players. They may make it to the big leagues. So just juggling that act all the time. And then of course you have to have ownership support, so you work closely with ownership if you're with the club. I'm way back when I was with in the beginning, when I was with the Florida Marlins back at that time, we were looking to build at that particular time because we're starting from scratch, so you're looking with a different philosophy. But when you have a chance to win and you can go for it within reason, and I think you also a lot of people forget if you're going to get quality, you have to give quality. And so a lot of times people want to get somebody that's really good, but they don't want to give anybody up. And that's tough to do. If you can, you know, bless you and make that type of deal, but it doesn't happen very often.

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Speaker 4: Agreed agreed, so you brought it up. I was going to wait till the end. But since you brought him up the White Sox, Okay, I know rolling him and he I I've known him forever.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 4: But the question I want to know is, there's two things to usa. Was fired by Hawk, You were let go by Hawk, Okay, how come Jerry didn't bring you back like he did with Tony to g be the GM president of Baseball ops. And then, second of all, I don't know this, and I've done Hawk since I was in high school, so I've done Hawk for thirty five years.

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Speaker 5: Are you and him talk? Are you guys friends? Because I don't know. I don't know the answer to this question.

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess Jerry thought Tony was better than me. That's probably why. So that's probably why I did that at that particular time. And I have a good relationship with Jerry, so he's been very good to me throughout my career and been very very nice. In Hawk's case, there really was a long time in which I did not speak with him. You know, I would say hi to him because we passed each other. He is a broadcaster with the White Sox and me with the other organizations with primarily with Detroit during that time period. But there was a when I went to Boston. I remember he called me about something to congratulate me, and we talked for a while. And so I'm not you know, like Tony Larus and I are very good friends. Jimmy Leelan and I are very good friends. We talk on the phone all the time. I'm not like that with Hawk, but if Hawk was here, I would have very civil conversation with them and respect what he accomplished in the game.

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Speaker 6: I got one question for you with Topper. You guys, we hear all the time about oh, they got changed something up. You know, this team wins in the regular season, they don't win in the postseason. I would disagree with that because there has been wins. It's just been close games. Do you guys ever talk with Topper about changing the lineup up for the playoffs or if that was the case, you change the lineup for the regular season and then you just go into the playoffs and hope you win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we talk about that. We talk about a lot of different things a lot of times, and I basically say we talk about everything. I always leave who I look at I leave the manager's decisions to make the lineup up my responsibility to supply the players for him. But I'm in a position where we were very closely together. We give them all the information he wants. We do talk a lot of times it's the matchup of the team. For example, this year, we talked about as we went on, should we split the two left handed hitters Harper and Schwarber because it makes us somewhat susceptible to left handed pitching when you do that. Talked about it, but the reality after we looked into it, there are two of our better hitters against left hand pitching, and they hit left hand pitching very well. So you talk about those type of things all the time, and you look at the other club's bullpen, you look how they shape up what they might match up against you late in the game. And Topper is on top of all of those type things. So he's really got a good feel of that, and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, as we know, and I've been around some great managers that make decisions that don't work at a particular time, but doesn't take away about how good that they do their job.

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Speaker 4: Dave, as we get to the World Series, would you play Boba shit? And how do you judge if you can play a guy or not? Because it's kind of one of the major topics going to the World Series. You had Trey Turner had the hamstring, came back for the playoffs. Boba Shit's been out since I think September sixth thish fifth sixth this so it's been almost six weeks now. How do you judge if a player is ready to play, especially a position like shortstop where you need movement?

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Speaker 3: Right, I can't speak for both because of course don't know enough about his particular situation. But like for us with Trey, what we do is you want to make sure can he play hard, is he healthy? Can he give you what you need? So, for example, part of Trey's equation was the speed that he brings to the game, So over the time period, wanted to make sure that we worked with him to make sure that he could run, and then we brought pictures in to actually face him. He used the machines and all that, but we brought some pictures from the minor leagues that were pretty good, so he could see live pitching at that time. So really the evaluation is can he play up to the level where he's not going to hurt him You never want a guy to hurt themselves, but can you play up to a level that will contribute to us without hurting himself? And then you really I mean we watched him run. He ran very well. He got better and better as time went on, and his swing got better and better as time went on the time he got better, So I think it's an evaluation. Then you then, of course, if you play a guy and depending what the injury is, will you hurt yourself worse? If you think the guy's going to hurt himself a lot worse, you're probably going to stay away from that too. But when you start talking about people like Turner and Bashett, they're tremendous players. So sometimes seventy five or eighty percent of them might be better than somebody else that's one hundred percent. So those are all the type of things that you go and play. And I rely a great deal on our medical staff. Our medical staff's outstanding and they know what it takes. So they've been around for a long time, and so between them, our doctors, they give you a pulse of hey, I feel comfortable to go ahead and play this guy. It's not a problem. He'll be okay or hey, I'd be careful because I don't I think if he runs full boor he's going to be in a position where he blows it out.

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Speaker 2: It's great insight, Dave, thanks so much for joining us. Hope you enjoyed it. Look at the smile on AJS.

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Speaker 4: Anytime we can get fellow Polish Hall of famers on the show, we need more of them, so I'm happy to talk to those people.

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Speaker 3: Thanks. I'm glow. We can make it. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you were great.

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Speaker 5: And give Brian barbera raised for me. Okay, and tell him I said that.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell them. He'll appreciate that, so I'll see perfect. All right. Thanks for having me a good one.

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Speaker 2: That was great.

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Speaker 1: We got to get more GMS on now. That gets me cranking again, thinking like we need to get more GMS on. Some are so methodical, and then there's guys like Dave who just talk like a normal person and he's great. It's probably out of thirty, how many do you think are like Dave these days?

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Speaker 2: And thoughtless?

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Speaker 1: We don't have to go through all the names, but those kind of guys where when you talk to them, you feel like you're talking to a person, and it's not a calculated job interview where they use all the bezzwords. You think ten so ten that really have the chops, and then twenty that.

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Speaker 2: Are like.

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Speaker 6: Maybe fifteen maybe maybe fifteen because without even without even thinking about it, that I can think definitely have the personalities. And I think the personality of a GM. I know it's player of Baseball Operations, president of baseball operations, but the GM it's the same, it's the same job. But they used to be like very arrogant, very like stand off fish. They never were in the clubhouse. Now that role has completely changed, even even since I started playing, which I don't feel like has been that long ago.

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Speaker 1: My thing is there is a psychology component that keeps getting amplified with anyone in management in baseball, would you agree more psychology now than.

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Speaker 4: They And nobody wants to give anything away, and nobody wants to tell you anything.

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Speaker 2: It's like weird, it's calculated.

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Speaker 4: Everything is everyone has to speaking and Dave is real dude, like he's just telling us it's great.

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Speaker 5: I think we've had a couple.

00:27:00
Speaker 4: Uh the guy in Cincinnati, uh Cral Yeah, he was awesome.

00:27:04
Speaker 5: JJ Pickelo we've had him on.

00:27:06
Speaker 6: Yeah, great, Arnold's great, yep Drop is great, and Anthopolis is great.

00:27:14
Speaker 5: Dave obviously, I tell you who we need to get on. Scott Harris. Scott Harris, the Tigers guy. Yeah Brown, Yeah, oh.

00:27:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dana Brown's good. Yeah, we gotta get Scott Harris. We gotta get Brian Cashman.

00:27:28
Speaker 4: I can I can maybe get a hold of uh, I mean, I can maybe try and get Scott Harris, but uh yeah.

00:27:33
Speaker 5: Friedman was great. You know else was great.

00:27:35
Speaker 4: Neander when we had him in spring training with his bucket had ar. These guys are good if you can get him.

00:27:42
Speaker 3: David.

00:27:42
Speaker 4: David turns every time I see him. I kind of laugh because I'm like, will you give me an answer? You're going to give me a GM talk.

00:27:47
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:27:48
Speaker 5: He's like, well, you know how it is, And I'm like, no, come on, he's.

00:27:51
Speaker 2: Got a long term I'm saying he should be more comfortable.

00:27:54
Speaker 5: Brandon Bones was awesome when he came on.

00:27:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brandon, those sometimes will be very with stuff. We got, you guys got him going a little bit. Sometimes he can be fuck to crack on.

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Speaker 5: Infot relievers are easy to correct.

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Speaker 2: Especial way he's played against him m HM