Tarryn Feldman: When Your House Turns into a Doggie Nursing Home

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Speaker 1: You're listening to in the Vets Office with doctor Josie Horshak.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to in the Vets Office. I am your host, doctor Josie, and I am so excited for today because I have the best guest here. We have Miss Tarran Feldman in the Vets Office.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Josie.

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Speaker 2: Taran is first and foremost my friend, but secondly, she is the celebrity hair and makeup artist in Nashville. She's doing glam for pretty much everyone. But we're talking like Reese Witherspoon, Kelsey Vallerini, Trisha Yearwood, anyone that is in the A list, you name it, she's glammed them. She also has her own podcast called The Touch Up Podcast. And if you're not listening to this, you should because I'm pretty sure you could moonlight as a comedian. You're so nice, You're so funny. And then, last, not least, she is a dog mom. And she's a really good dog mom. And I know that firsthand because I am lucky enough to take care of her animals. Welcome, Karen, Hi, Hi, thanks for having me. You're so welcome. Last time I saw you, we were at a wedding and you were glamoring me.

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Speaker 1: We were in the Keys.

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Speaker 2: We were in the Keys.

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Speaker 1: We've been in Florida in the Keys, partying on the beach.

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Speaker 2: And now we are in Nashville. It's twenty degrees yeah, and fridge, concrete building and a concrete bolding shooting yeah. Speaking of the concrete building. For those watching this podcast, this is not cute. This is not our normal studio. We are in the mix of moving, so just be resuilding.

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Speaker 1: We are building twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Watch out when we come back in twenty eighty five. I'll best are off you bitches.

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Speaker 1: Wish yeah, are not ready? Wish you could never?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, before we dive into all things, yes, we're going to do our case of the week. This is where I talk about any kind of case. It can be interesting, funny that I have seen in the trenches, if you will. And this particular case it was not so much medical. I had a man I cannot remember his name, but he came to his four o'clock on a Friday appointment with his big dog name Thunder. I'm like, we're this is just gonna be a great visit.

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Speaker 1: You know, big dog's name Thunder, Big.

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Speaker 2: Dog names thunder. He walks in. You can tell he's like kind of in a bad mood. He like hands me the dog's leash. He sits down. I don't really see because he's got a big coat on. But all of a sudden, he pulls out a twelve pack of PBR Okay, sets them down next to him, pulls a coozy out of his pocket, takes a PBR out, pops it open, sticks in his koozy, and just chugs the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, maybe he's getting divorced.

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Speaker 2: Right in front of me.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, this profession's amazing because you don't go to your doctor's office and do that. You certainly don't go to your dentist and do that. But your vet, Like, why the hell not?

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Speaker 1: Sure? Sure, all bets are off, have a nice little cocktail at your vet's office.

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Speaker 2: I also have had another time where it was a euthanasia, so a little bit more sad of an appointment. And this wasn't mine, specifically, it was a friend's. It was doctor Isabella, who's on this podcast for those of you who listen, And she asked the mom, She said, was you like a water or can I get you anything, and she said, oh no, it's okay. I've had five white claws on my way over and then jiggled her Stanley like there's still some in here, okay, and she was.

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Speaker 1: Like, okay, thank you for sharing. That chucks out, thank you for sharing. It's that's definitely a moment that you need a drink.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I am just always reminded that this profession we see the highest of highs peoples and lives and the lowest of lows, and that it's a judge of free zone. You need a PBR on a Friday or a white claw before euthanasia and you do you boo.

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Speaker 1: We don't know. Thunder might be a lot to deal with exactly. You might need them PBRs.

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Speaker 2: With a name like Thunder, you were destined for greatness and probably a couple of PBRs on perc. Yes, so yeah, I just thought that was interesting. All Right, we are going to dive into our listener Q and Ace, Hi, doctor Josie.

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Speaker 3: My name's Belinda and I have to tuolow mixes. But they are both older, like nine years old or so, and is it too late to create train them? And if so, how do.

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Speaker 2: I do that. I really like this question because I think it applies to humans too, whether you're a dog or a human, no matter how old you are, you can learn new tricks.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's never too late.

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Speaker 2: It is never too late, okay, And in fact, I think so often old people and probably old dogs feel like I even think we're like, oh they're old, like we don't need to worry about it, but like they also want to learn new things. They want boundaries, and so I think it's important that yes, you can absolutely teach your old dog new tricks or create training or to sit, to stay, whatever it may be. Cute cute, and so create trading is fairly easy. It's a lot of repetition. You want to have your create out wherever you're most frequent in the house, usually like your living room. Leave the door open so that way your dog feels like it can go in and out as it pleases. Put some treats in there, feed them their food in there, their favorite toy, like, make it a place where they're so excited to go. And then slowly, with time they'll become more acclimated to it, and you can leave them in there for short periods of time. And then all the way to you know, at night if you want, or when you're leaving the house. But start slow. Lots of positive reinforcement. And just because they're old does not mean they can't learn how to do it.

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Speaker 1: I love that good to know. Although I think Lucy, my sixteen year old, is she just is what she is. Lucy like absolutely, oh, she'd be like kindly, fuck, that's a no for me. It's like chain smoking at this point. I like, she's so funny.

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Speaker 2: Lucy's amazing. I want to talk. I also feel like she has like a little bit of dementia.

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Speaker 1: She is. There's a lot of like.

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Speaker 2: Hello, I walked in this room and I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: Who are you? What am I? Oh? Right, right, we were about to have lunch.

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Speaker 2: Right if people always ask me like do you think dogs can get dementia? And we don't have any scientific studies on it, but they absolutely have all the signs of it, Like there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: She'll like run away from me sometimes like who are you? And I'm like, what do you mean who?

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Speaker 2: Like I birth to you.

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Speaker 1: We've been together for sixteen years, Like I birthed you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And they pace a lot too, doesn't she kind of wander around the house.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, her and Laylah both the mad pacing.

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Speaker 2: It can be a lot of owners find that to be like exhausting because they are like I want to help you, but I don't know how, yeah, and you're so disoriented, Like it can be really taxing.

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Speaker 1: It is, And I think, what is it with old dogs? Why do they get the slippies and the slighties on the wood floor the pads?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think they there's like a number of reasons they can. It's kind of like your grandma, who's a hundred? She your grandma, who's a hundred? That was my ring doorbell? Sorry, everyone, the ups man is there. Hello, Just like your hundred ye old grandma. You know, she's got to use a walker to get around. Like they can have some like neurologic deficits that make it hard to walk. They're just old and crickety.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just interesting because like both of them, my older dogs, they would like do the splits, like I had to start feeding them on rugs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like around and a lot of my clients when I go to do house calls and they have older pets. Their house is just wood floors with runners everywhere, runners everywhere. Yeah, or you can put booties on them, which is very cute.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I tried the little nail caps but that didn't do anything. No, so don't buy those.

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Speaker 2: They are cute though.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we love a fashion nail, we.

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Speaker 1: Love a bright blue nail, but it does absolutely nothing. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the nail grippers do much. But the the booties, which you can really get any brand, those are pretty nicely.

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Speaker 1: That's cute.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's jump into question number two.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Hi, doctor Josie.

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Speaker 4: I'm calling regarding my dog. He is a wired hair terrier. He's a rescue but I've had him since seven weeks. He's three years old and recently, I mean it's been a couple of months now, but he was sleeping in bed.

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Speaker 1: With me, and then now he doesn't.

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Speaker 4: He sleeps in the closet floor. There's been no trauma or any changes, so I was just wondering what could be causing this behavior.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I like this question too because two things come to mind for me, one of which is, again, our animals are just like us, and their preferences can change as they get older, like for example, what you eat Like, I didn't like carrots seven years ago. No, I love karrot. Yeah, so he made just his preferences might be changing. Also, if the weather is changing and he's hot in the bed, he might want to be cooler in the closet. But there are with behavioral change. Is being a vet. One of the things I think about is they can have like metabolic disease or indocrine disease, these little like thyroid changes going on that we can't see with our naked eye. That can cause them to have behavioral changes. So if you're like, hey, this is unusual, I always say better safe than sorry. Yes, take them to your vet, get a blood panel done, just get some peace of mind that everything is nice and normal. And if all that comes back worm all, then it could just be a preference change. They are just like us.

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Speaker 1: Did she say how long it was going on for a couple of months? Oh yeah, that's that's long enough that I would go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is weird exactly if it's like once or twice, yeah, no big deal. But it's consistent. I think it's worth getting checked out. Yeah, cats too, especially for all my cat listeners.

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Speaker 1: Interesting dogs, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, nah, they can change things up a little bit more usually, like more than usual. But cats are like my routine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, creatures of habits.

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Speaker 2: Yes, if they're acting off a couple of days in a row, I'm like red flag.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't have cats.

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Speaker 2: As I say, have you ever had cats?

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Speaker 1: I have, I'm not much of a cat person. But also there was a time where I was like, I think Orville needs a cat friend because inner specie relationships.

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Speaker 2: Just yeah, it's the cutest thing ever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of that, I just saw a TikTok video of a horse walking around and it was wearing its little winter blanket and a cat was riding around on its.

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Speaker 1: Back, and then just like kills me every time bury me. Now, yeah, I like, I don't get it. What amazing, That's all I want.

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Speaker 2: I never put a like interspecies relationships. I love that, Tarren. I never thought about it like that. I mean, I know that's fine.

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Speaker 1: A frog and a duck a like a cat and a rhino. Give it like whatever it is, a donkey and a chicken, a donkey and of chicken, whatever it is, and then make it up like a baby, see it.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh you denial interspecies relationships like.

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Speaker 1: Marry me peace. We are here to celebrate Tarn and Josie. They have died from Yeah, oh.

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Speaker 2: My god, I know. Okay, we have to get you a cat. Let's do it. It's cool, like, you know, it's a good time of year to bunk it down and have a lot of kitten.

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Speaker 1: You know, But I might I might just get another dog.

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Speaker 2: Well that's also a great option. Tell me about Orville. I haven't really spent damage time because he's fairly new.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he's he's he's like a year and a couple of months old. He's the best boy in the world.

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Speaker 2: He's a funny looking boy. He's a like in the best way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a cute He's so cute. He doesn't look real like what is he? He's a docs and beagle cha uh mix. He's like five things. I forgot what all of them are.

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Speaker 2: He's a box and box and there's nothing better than a little super mutt to me where they kind of almost look like forest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he's just a fuzzy little low boy. He's so cute. He's such a good boy. He's a little bit of a bad boy, but he's like, he's just so sweet.

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Speaker 2: You've only all your three other three dogs I've met, they're all girls. So how is it having a boy dog.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just like, dude, you're just waving your fuzzy little penis on everything. Oh annoy it is. But there's like a it's such a special bond different all of my dogs. I think he loves me the most. Like Lucy, I've always been like she could go home with anybody. Yeah, Layla was my ride or die, but she wouldn't like lay on me or like she would like sleep above my head or like on my legs. But she was never like very affectionate.

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Speaker 2: With me, very catless.

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Speaker 1: And yeah. But and Twila, I mean Twila just always though everybody. He was like mad at her. So she's just like a little nervous girls a little standoffish. But he just is my best friend.

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Speaker 2: They are I tell you, I don't hire a lot.

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Speaker 1: It is the best friend, like he was genuinely are best friend.

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Speaker 2: That's how I feel. I had girl dogs before I had Biggie. Who's my little guy. He's actually a Chihuaha beagle something or another mix. I know, maybe we should have them meets. Oh my god, yes, And I have never had a love like that. Yeah, it's like they I think little boy dogs just like love their moms. Yeah, kind of like we probably sound absolutely insane, but I don't care either. But it's like baby boys like you boys with their moms. Like I think there's just something to be said about it. Yeah, getting a really good dog, a good girl dog. They are special and they're smart and they're like zeroed in on you. But a boy dog's just like do whatever and I love you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I've definitely had like a very special bond with all of my.

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Speaker 2: Children, of course, all of my children.

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Speaker 1: And Orville like is obsessed to with aj so as Lucy.

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Speaker 2: So Karen him boyfriend. Yeah, your boyfriend boyfriend. How was it introducing him being young to Lucy and Layla at the time, who were seniors very well into years.

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Speaker 1: He was super stoked. They could care less, okay, Like, but I will say this, after I lost Twila, I didn't hear Layla or Lucy bark for like four months, and that was the deciding factor of I'm going to get another dog to like bring life back into this crew. And they definitely because they would, even though they were both pretty much almost deaf, they would hear him bark or move and then they'd go, oh, something's happening, and then they would like get up and be like, I'm still a dog. So then I like started hearing chaos again. And so it was nice. But he just wanted to play. And there's I mean, Lucy's still like bro huh, like back off? Yeah, yeah, you like fight all the time.

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Speaker 2: I think there's something to be said about that, where when you have an older dog to show your younger dog the ropes or kind of like put them in their place. I think that's like a nice it's a nice balance. Actually, yeah, you feel aboud. You're like, I'm sorry that I've brought this younger dog into your life older dog. But it's good for like the younger dog to be to have some boundaries like that from another dog in the house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And I also thought it was good for them too, to just keep them on their little toes.

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Speaker 2: Keep some young as they scamper around. Okay, you talked about Twyla and that's you have a tattoo of her.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm the cutest tattoo.

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Speaker 2: It's really cute.

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Speaker 1: It's the cutest.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to post it so people can see because I love it.

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Speaker 1: I'll send you the real the photos. She was like a pit boxer maybe Okay, well.

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Speaker 2: Mutt she That's how Tarann and I met Abby Smiers, who is the husband of Dan Smiers from Dan and Shay Yeah, texted me and said, Hey, I have a friend who who's got some stuff going on with her dog. Can I connect to you? I said, sure, no problem. So I get on the phone with Terian, like there was not just some stuff going on, like she was yeah, very sick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she had a cancerous tumor and one of her lung lobes and I had it immediately taken out, just the whole lobe. Think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were on the phone and you were like, I don't I think this is before surgery. You were like, I don't know. And I always tell owners this, there's such a spectrum of care, right, like, Yeah, some people choose to do nothing at all, which is not wrong, and some people choose to like go the distance. And so we kind of like were weighing the pros and cons of each end you went the distance.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I remember you saying something to me too that will always stick is you were like, there's two kinds of parents, like pet parents. There's the ones that will like go to the depths of the world, you figure it out, or there's the like logic, not that it's not logical to go to the depths of the planet, but like or there's the Okay, it's time. And I didn't know which par and I was because those were the only I hadn't lost a dog before. Twilo was my first one, so it was an easy decision because she was only eleven and everything was perfect with her except for that, So it was an easy decision for me to go, Okay, let's just get this taken out. But I didn't. And I will say, you're a great vet, but I feel like it's really difficult advocating for your sick dog because they were like, well, we can get her in to get a scan in like a month from now. I'm like, a fucking month from now. No, you're getting her in now. There's only two rady, like two people are cancer centers in town that can deal with my dog in a month. Who knows what's gonna happen in a month like there, the like time span is so much less for dogs than it is animals or people. So I was difficult, but I got her, like she was in surgery within two weeks that thing was out. Yeah, But then I didn't realize the kind of cancer that she had or how dogs, how cancer lives in dogs is like it's still in the blood kind of. So I thought I would have her a lot longer, but I just did it.

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Speaker 2: We had came back three we have three months.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, her tumor was taken out the end of July and she died the end of September. Okay, so not really.

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Speaker 2: Like two months. It's interesting you say, like, I do think there's a huge portion to having to advocate for your own pet and honestly and human medicine too. You have to advocate for yourself. Yeah, and it's because it is at the end of the day, like you're working with these massive hospital systems and people that don't know your animals like you do. And so I think, I'm sorry you had that experience, but I do understand like having to advocate for your own animals, and I hope that some of the time that you got with her and like doing that surgery, Like she would not have had those two months if you hadn't done it, so hopefully.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean you got more time either way. I got a little bit more time that I really didn't know. I thought they were like, you could She'll probably last till December, which was around my birthday, which was my fortieth birthday. So I was gonna go to BALI, I was gonna do all this stuff, and I just put everything on hold, which is not a big deal. I could care less. But and then I just lost her like so much sooner. I was like, oh, yeah, you're like damn, yeah, I know, but you just don't know. And I would have done it the same way again. Yeah, Like the end of her life was like so peaceful and so like what a great like you you only hope that you can like have your pet die in your arms or I do at least, Yeah, like I don't. Some people can't handle or they think they can't, but they can. Yeah. But that's like my hope is that, like all my dogs just die in my office.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, with the person they love the most. Yeah, are kind of ushering them out of this world. Yeah, because ultimately they're the most comfortable in your arms.

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Speaker 1: Right, so far I've had that's happened with Leila and Twila. Yes, so yes, I'm so grateful so Layla. Gosh, we're going from one sad story to another. I know. So Twila died September twenty fourth, and then Layla died September thirtieth.

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Speaker 2: Really I didn't know that, Yeah one year almost, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Oh and then Lucy's probably uh quick dog hack. Don't get multiple dogs the same age. Just don't do it.

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Speaker 2: Stagger, Why would you do that? Stagger?

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Speaker 1: The ages I did that was so dumb. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're having a little bit of a domino effect right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, Layla was another one where you called me and you're like, I think it might be time. And I really this really resonated with me because we got on the phone and again, I have two different kinds of owners that are like I maybe not even two different kinds, but I like what you said. You were just like I need you to come look at this dog and be objective and tell me is this the right decision or is it not the right decision. I think we as veterinarians kind of forget that that is our job is to help guide you and like we and I don't want the owners to ever have to like feel like they're the judge and jury with their dogs passing, you know, like that's on me, Like I should help you make that decision, right, And so I totally got that, and I hope that if there's any veterinarians listening out there, like we remember that, like we should be the ones throwing youth in asia on the table and saying like it's okay, and like this is the right decision to be making for this petah, because it's really heard. Even myself as a vet when it's my own dog, I had to have my husband be like it's time. Yeah, you lose all when it's your own pet, you lose all objectiveness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's weird. I mean, I definitely think Twila prepped me for Leila, But you don't you like you think you're like, my life's gonna be over when this dog dies, Hell will freeze over, like I'll die. But there's something that kicks in and I think it's just your love for them, yes, that you just you love them so much that you're just like, I'm not putting you through another ounce. You can't spare a second to see themselves of like pain. And I think that's like just ultimately what it was so like easy and easy, even though it's not an easy decision, but it made it easier. Just you just know she's in pain. Yeah, that's it, It's done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And and and if you have an old dog, how wonderful is that? The luckiest Laila was sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Twila was eleven or twelve. I'll never know, but I think she was like eleven or twelve. She may have been thirteen. And Lucy's sixteen and a half.

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Speaker 2: Amazing, she's strucking yeah doing it.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like she's got like another six months left inner.

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Speaker 2: I love that really longer. It is funny at the end, I feel like we cling on to like, oh, but I don't want to live without them. I don't want like I can't bear this pain of losing them. But ultimately, like just like you said, like, but I love them more than I love myself. Yeah, so, and I could can't keep them alive just to make me less sad for a few more days.

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Speaker 1: Well, and with Laila, Twila didn't she wasn't that old that her. She was still Twila. Laila wasn't Layla anymore, and Layla hadn't been Laila in a really long time. When after she died, I was going through like old video, those old photos, and I'm just like, oh, I didn't realize. I've just gotten so used to taking care like of these geriatric dogs.

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Speaker 2: They're runing a nursing home.

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Speaker 1: They're just not even themselves anymore. They're so different, you know, which just gave me a little bit more piece of.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever feel like they are something called caregiver like compassion overload? Did you ever feel that where you're like this is like tough on me, or you're just like, no, I love them so much that I don't even think about it.

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Speaker 1: No, the last like year and a half two years have been really hard.

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Speaker 2: I bet, I bet.

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Speaker 1: It's extremely hard taking care of old dogs and then having them die back to back. Yeah, and just all I do is take worry about them, take care of them, fork out money.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a crazy fun of listeners that are going to resonate with that, because.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but what like what the fuck ouse. That's what my job is though, and I take it's serious, but it gets I mean, I'm all I do is clean up piss and shit or puke or like somebody's sick. Oh my god, we all had uh the norovirus together. Oh boy, I had it, and then they had it.

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Speaker 2: What a time to be alive?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And then and then a couple of years ago, like four years ago, they all decided to uh do a group suicide mission and ate a bottle of carprofen, the strongest fucking car Profen. They all shared it and they stayed in the er for like six days.

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Speaker 2: That's a group suicide. I'm gackling. I was like, there's.

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Speaker 1: Just try to cult group suicide themselves. You're like, I was coming home from the Bahamas and I got a phone call and I was like, they gotta go to they gotta go to an emergency. Yeah, we don't. I can guess who probably ate the most. I know who got the bottle open, but they probably all they were the car Profen. That's another hack. Never have the treat carprofen ever, great hack. They will eat all of it and then die and just shove a pill down their throat. Never get medicine in a treat form. Yeah, this shouldn't even be offered.

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Speaker 2: Or if you do, keep it up in the lock. Oh yeah, because I have seen that so many times.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was terrible. I was so stressed out.

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Speaker 2: I cannot imagine. So all of them went to the yar.

00:26:30
Speaker 1: All of them had it in their system. We just didn't know, like you know, because they're all different sizes, and I was just like, well flush them all, I don't know, like pump everyone's stomach. Like it's like, what's the bill? And then I got a dog insurance so that yes, yeah.

00:26:49
Speaker 2: After that's another thing. I need to do a whole episode on insurance for our pets, which I will get to that, but it's if you can get it, especially before have any issues wrong with them. I highly recomon.

00:27:00
Speaker 1: I had it for Twila and everything was probably forty grand I maybe paid nine.

00:27:07
Speaker 2: Okay, so there's that there you go, well that yeah, say less, yeah okay.

00:27:12
Speaker 1: And then after she died, they were so awful to deal with. I had to keep calling back and reminding them to take her off the thing, and they wouldn't. And I was like, if I have to tell you this story one more time, I'm gonna lose my mind. Yeah. So, and they tried to like up my premium like one hundred more dollars even though I only had two pets now instead of three. Yeah, so I just canceled it. They were great for a minute in met Life.

00:27:36
Speaker 2: At least they covered we won't be getting sponsored by them.

00:27:40
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:27:40
Speaker 2: Sorry, Oh it's okay. I mean, hey, it is your experience.

00:27:44
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

00:27:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would say, like especially when they're young, because they will do things like eat carprofen and all the random things that dogs do.

00:27:52
Speaker 1: So, yeah, it's time, what it's time?

00:27:58
Speaker 4: Hilarious?

00:28:00
Speaker 2: Was that Twyla, Lucy and Layla.

00:28:02
Speaker 1: Yeah they all fucking did it?

00:28:03
Speaker 2: Okay, God, yeah they all did it? Great?

00:28:04
Speaker 1: Great? Great? Yep?

00:28:07
Speaker 2: Did they all the three of them get along having the big pity mix with two littles?

00:28:11
Speaker 1: Well, I mean Twyla had like small dog syndrome. She literally thought she didn't like she just I think it's like a boxer thing. They're just like always think somebody's mad at them. Yeah, so she would just try and make herself so small. Yeah. But I've I had Lucy and Layla since they were babies like I found Leila Griffith Park. I got Lucy off Craigslist, like I've had them since I was twenty four.

00:28:37
Speaker 2: What was it like picking up a dog off Craigslist?

00:28:41
Speaker 1: I saw her photo and I was like, that's my dog.

00:28:44
Speaker 2: And then did you feel like you're gonna get taken at any point? Or was it a seamless without transis? It was twenty years ago, okay, so it was safe.

00:28:50
Speaker 1: Then it was safe. I drove Orange County and got her.

00:28:52
Speaker 2: Okay, Just for all listeners out there, I do not recommend. Oh no, don't do that doing it anymore?

00:28:57
Speaker 1: No, no, no, don't do that. Go to years wags and walks.

00:28:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah yeah, do a rescue at wax Yeah, do a rescue, do your local shelter, do anything else but that? Which is where Orvill's from right.

00:29:08
Speaker 1: Orbs from wagon walks. I saw him and I was like, give me that dude.

00:29:13
Speaker 2: What's his name? Orville? When you adopted him?

00:29:14
Speaker 1: No, it Wasbata. You're lying, And I said no, I actually tried to take two, did you? Yeah? I sure did.

00:29:25
Speaker 2: On sour dough.

00:29:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like they're the litter. They told me that I couldn't because puppies bond and then they won't yond with anybody else.

00:29:35
Speaker 2: This is a big thing littermates. We don't remammend adopting litter mates. They're either going to be like, like you said, super bonded and it doesn't end very well for anyone in the home, or they fight like thoge into like vicious fights. Yeah, so I'm glad you only had Chibata.

00:29:51
Speaker 1: Yeah what a name, what a time? Or what a sandwich?

00:29:58
Speaker 2: And now he's our little popcorn boy.

00:30:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, he's just Orville and he's such an Orville he is.

00:30:03
Speaker 2: One hundred Yeah. Okay, of all the celebrities that you've glammed, who would you say? I mean, I feel like they're all pretty big animal lovers. Are there anywhere you're like, ooh, this is a big animal lover.

00:30:16
Speaker 1: I mean Trisha or Wood's a huge animal lover. She has three dogs, dog rescue. She's just super into.

00:30:23
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, great that I didn't know this because I'm not from Nashville, and I'm like, wasn't really in the country music scene. But that is Garth Brooks's wife. Correct, Okay, got it, Big dog.

00:30:32
Speaker 1: Lady Chenowith has a dog named Thunder. She's like always has a dog.

00:30:37
Speaker 2: Yes, another dog named Thunder.

00:30:39
Speaker 1: Another Thunder.

00:30:40
Speaker 2: I wonder if Kristen drinks pbr at her visits.

00:30:43
Speaker 1: She's not, She's not a maybe some moove. Yeah, I was gonna say a little champagne. Yeah. Chelsea Handler has always had dogs. She lost two dogs, and now she has a guy named Doug. I haven't met him though yet.

00:30:59
Speaker 2: She's a dog named Yeah, he's a fluffy chow amazing.

00:31:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, he seems like a cool guy.

00:31:05
Speaker 2: Does she live in La?

00:31:06
Speaker 1: She lives in La Okay? Yeah?

00:31:07
Speaker 2: Cool.

00:31:08
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:31:10
Speaker 2: I feel like takes care of Chelsey her dot Kelsey Ballerini a lot.

00:31:16
Speaker 1: Yeah. Who else? I mean, my friend Kelly Bannon has two pugs, Like they're just everybody's got. They're a little guy. Yeah.

00:31:27
Speaker 2: I feel like pretty much all the people we surround ourselves with like animals for the most part.

00:31:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you don't like animals, I just I know a couple of people something they don't like animals, and I'm like, that's probably why you're kind of shitty. Sorry, I mean, oh sorry.

00:31:45
Speaker 2: That's so funny. I mean, hey, she said it.

00:31:47
Speaker 1: I will say it. I'll put it. I'll make merch merch dropping soon.

00:31:51
Speaker 2: You don't like animals, you're shitty.

00:31:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're kind of shitty. There's something shitty about you. Yeah.

00:31:55
Speaker 2: Sure, have you ever or would you ever date it guy that didn't like your dogs? No, but you never have.

00:32:04
Speaker 1: Uh. Yeah, my ex wasn't really as like involved as I would have loved.

00:32:13
Speaker 2: But that's why he's an ex.

00:32:15
Speaker 1: That's why he's an ex.

00:32:16
Speaker 2: Okay.

00:32:18
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was always on my like bucket list of like, marry a guy that will let you have all the animals and then lo and behold here I am, here's Aj, Here's Aj and Aj. The older the dog, the better, more disabled, the better. Like he just take it. Yeah, he just is Like I was like, oh, I kind of want to get another dog, like because you know, Lucy could care less about Orville and she just wants to like sleep in bed next to me and just take naps. And Orville's just like chomping at the bits. Just I feel like he needs a little guy, like a little friend. And he's like, well, let's go to the shelter. Let's go. Yeah, And I'm like, oh, you dude, you you're my guy.

00:33:00
Speaker 2: You should propose. You should propose, No, you should propose me.

00:33:06
Speaker 1: He tells me all the time he's gonna marry me.

00:33:08
Speaker 2: Oh, I love that.

00:33:09
Speaker 1: It's a timing thing.

00:33:11
Speaker 2: This is a side note, but Taran was doing my glam for my podcast cover and you had I kind of forgot about that started talking to AJ and You're like, I don't know if he likes me, and then you showed me his messages and I'm like, Taren, I'm pretty sure he likes you. And now you're together.

00:33:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now we're together. Well, you know, guys are dumb.

00:33:28
Speaker 2: He's a comedian, isn't he.

00:33:30
Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:33:30
Speaker 2: Do you guys joke make funny jokes at home, but like on your walls?

00:33:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, he's he's a funny guy. He's much more like quiet and reserved I mean you've met.

00:33:41
Speaker 2: Him, yeah, than when he's on stage.

00:33:43
Speaker 1: Yeah. But when he's on stage is like where he thrives and shines, where like I am like miss his personality. I'm just so loud and outgoing in real life, but if you caught me on stage, I would just like freeze up, freeze up.

00:33:57
Speaker 2: You're a good yin to each other's yang. Yeah, totally do you guys do anything funny with the animals, like singed them, took them in a certain way, like anything, like any weird routines.

00:34:09
Speaker 1: I mean, we like laugh at Orville a lot because he's so funny, and we'll be like, oh my god, babe, look how cute. Oh my god, look how cute? And there's like so many photos.

00:34:18
Speaker 2: Do you narrate them? Do they have voices?

00:34:21
Speaker 1: A little bit? Orville a little bit because he's just such a crackhead. Yeah, And Lucy's just like I can't, I just, oh my god, let me know when this guy goes to jail, like she's.

00:34:32
Speaker 2: She's like one hundred year old New Yorker that's chain smokes.

00:34:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Yeah, she just wants to play gin rummy.

00:34:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe a little majong like Love's Party.

00:34:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like sniffing lines of coke. He's just such a fucking crackheat.

00:34:47
Speaker 2: I love him so much, hilarious.

00:34:49
Speaker 1: I know he's so sweet.

00:34:51
Speaker 2: All Right, Well, we're gonna thank you. That was amazing. I love all your animals and you. We're gonna take a quick break and then we're gonna come back and we're gonna I've into pawn Order. All right, we're back for our paw and Order, and usually we play the intro music, but today we have the vocal recordings of tarn Feldman.

00:35:23
Speaker 1: Hit it dum dum boom boom d.

00:35:40
Speaker 2: We nailed it, nailed it. You think this is a veterinary podcast, isn't. We are multi talented. Alright, So number one on the list this week, I would not feed my dog or cat a raw diet.

00:35:54
Speaker 1: People.

00:35:55
Speaker 2: I cannot tell you how many listeners I have had contact me about this. They want to feed them raw meat. And I cannot say this loud enough. You should not do that because a your pets. I have seen so many pets get sick from this. There's a lot of bacteria and raw meat. And I've also had owners get sick from feeding raw food.

00:36:13
Speaker 1: Ew, cook it. Why can't you just cook it? Yeah?

00:36:16
Speaker 2: Cook it, totally, give.

00:36:17
Speaker 1: Them everything, gizzards, duck liver, cook it though.

00:36:22
Speaker 2: Dude, Yeah, you got to cook it. You've got to cook it. Raw meat is really disgusting. Yeah, it's for yeah, for wolves. Yeah, and I'm sure they're like my little chill wahwahs. Ancestors at some point may have eaten a piece of raw meat. But if I was to give him something raw, it would not be cute.

00:36:37
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sure my dogs would get they're too domestic.

00:36:40
Speaker 2: No, yeah, they wouldn't like it.

00:36:42
Speaker 1: Carprofen only we're on a strict drug deck. I mean, they're a little drug addictes. I don't even know what to say. It's embarrassing, hilarious.

00:36:51
Speaker 2: Okay, number two, I wouldn't leave my chewing gum unattended. A lot of dogs love to get into chewing gum. In the words of Aran, they might be doing a suicide mission.

00:37:04
Speaker 1: Always gum. Really, I mean I would think so.

00:37:06
Speaker 2: But uh oh, gum has xylotol in it, which is an artificial sweetener, and it makes their blood pressure drop like very dangerously. They have hospitalize. It's a whole thing. Yes, guys, I know, watch your gum, hide your gun.

00:37:19
Speaker 1: Watch your SIGs, watch your drugs, watch your gum, watch your pertription drugs, all the thing. Get it together. What are you doing the gun?

00:37:26
Speaker 2: Are you doing the gum, the chewing gum? I don't know why. This is no science. This is just my experience. Golden retrievers love chewing gum. It's almost always a Golden Retriever for me. That's so funny, isn't that funny?

00:37:40
Speaker 1: Those little shits? Yeah, what do you what do you trying to do right now?

00:37:43
Speaker 2: They want fresh breath, They want fresh breath.

00:37:46
Speaker 1: Just give them a little puppy Mine have puppy man, Yeah exactly. But grow up, be an adult and get a drug drawer like everybody else. God, lock it up, yez ass all right.

00:37:57
Speaker 2: Number three, we're really sticking on the drug here.

00:38:00
Speaker 1: Because I never give my dogs cocaine.

00:38:05
Speaker 2: That's number four for today. No Number three. I would not smoke in front of my pets. I am any anything really, cigarettes mainly cigarettes, fape. I think it's fine, it's mainly Yeah, I have seen it. I am an animal doctor. I do not care if you smoke SIGs like you do you boo, But animals. I have had dogs and cats develop asthma.

00:38:30
Speaker 1: Oh my god, second hands pool, what are you doing? Yeah?

00:38:37
Speaker 2: I know this is like really turning into us lecturing listeners.

00:38:41
Speaker 1: Well, at some point, just grow up. Yeah.

00:38:43
Speaker 2: So, if you're gonna smoke, smoke outside and don't smoke. I have seen there's also videos going around if people are smoking weed and then blowing it in their pets faces, trying to get them high. Yeah, that's not I do not like that. Yeah, I don't think my listeners are doing that. But you know, if you've seen people.

00:38:58
Speaker 1: I can't. Oh my god. People are so like, why would you do that? Yeah, dogs don't understand there. They would probably be so scared to be that high.

00:39:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And it's not.

00:39:09
Speaker 1: Funny, No, it's not. I wish we could take animals away from people like that.

00:39:13
Speaker 2: It's not funny, it's not cute.

00:39:14
Speaker 1: No. I get riled up. I know we're I know I get riled up. I want to beat people. I want to evaporate them.

00:39:22
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Well, if you're not scared now after saying this, you should be, because Tarran will find you.

00:39:29
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll find you.

00:39:30
Speaker 2: Yes, they're innocent little creatures. I mean they if they don't get to make the decision, it's our job to protect them and advocate for them. So at the end of the day, that's what we have to do. People are dumb, Taran. This has been the best that though in my life I have laughed, I have sweated, I might have beeted a little bit, I had so much fun. Thank you for coming away.

00:39:52
Speaker 1: Having me, doctor Josie, You're so welcome.

00:39:55
Speaker 2: And then if you guys don't follow Terran you should is it at Tarrean Feldman.

00:39:58
Speaker 1: At Taran Feldman. And then please go to my silly little podcast.

00:40:04
Speaker 2: You are guaranteed to laugh.

00:40:05
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's fun. It's a beauty podcast, but we talk about all kinds of stuff and it's a giggly good time.

00:40:12
Speaker 2: I can only imagine it.

00:40:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of fun.

00:40:14
Speaker 2: And then, as always, you can find me at doctor Josie Vett on Instagram. Send me your questions. Click the link in my bio to record any questions that you want to come on the podcast. And then last and not least, rate review, subscribe, give us five stars. Do you say that on your podcast? Rate review, subscribe? Oh no, I don't. I never remember, and they're always like say these wee things.

00:40:33
Speaker 1: You know what. Now I'm going to have to go subscribe to our.

00:40:36
Speaker 2: YouTube, go subscribe and rate and review and if it's not five stars, don't give us any at all.

00:40:40
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:40:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll see you next week. Guys.

00:40:43
Speaker 1: Bye, tell your dog, I said Hid