2025-11-24- KSR - Hour 1

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Speaker 4: Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone on your Tucky Sports Radio. Monday, November the twenty fourth. I'm Matt Jones on a cloudy, kind of cool day. I'm in Louisville, Kentucky. Ryan and Drew are in Lexington. Shannon's over there in that little studio box. It is Thanksgiving weekend and I'm excited about it. Big weekend. We got basketball, got football, we got the Kentucky volleyball but it was it wasn't the best weekend of the past one. You can give a shout eight five to nine eighth twenty two eighty seven. That's the clarks Pubby shop phone line. A Vision Auto glass text machine is seven seven two seven four five two five four. This stition sponsored by TJ. Smith Lo office. You called Tj'll make them pay. I wonder what Diego Pavi's mom's doing right now, Shannon.

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Speaker 3: Pu probably down on Broadway in Nashville kit rocks bar.

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Speaker 1: You don't know, we.

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Speaker 5: Haven't seen much of hers.

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Speaker 1: I just want to start with it, Like, we could be all down and depressed today and we have to talk about the disaster that was the game. But I think there's some value Shannon in like and sort of laughing to start the day, right, Sure, So we have to talk for a second about Diego, About your quarterback's mother. Yeah, Diego Povey.

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Speaker 3: Paviy A's Mom's got it going on, Apparently, the cameraman thinks, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: No, exactly, no exaggeration. In the history of sports, has there ever been a parent that was shown more on a game broadcast than his mom was on that one?

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Speaker 3: No, she was shown six times on one score. They kept cutting away from the game to his mom, back to the game, back to Pafia's mom.

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Speaker 1: Ryan, you've been watching for a long time. You worked in TV for years. Can you ever remember anything like that?

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Speaker 5: You brought it up on the Postgame Show when Christian Latner's mom was in that neck brace. That's the only thing that comes anywhere close. And it still wasn't as many times as they showed Diego, Pobby.

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Speaker 1: Even Donna Smith, No, not even close.

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Speaker 4: She would get maybe one time.

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Speaker 6: Drew, do you can you think of a time, no, no, no, I thought forever my two were Donna Smith And if you remember when Blake Griffin was awesome at Oklahoma, they just had a camera on his parents all the time. I thought those two were gonna help hold the crown forever. But Poby's mom is a legend for how much they showed her on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: And we and listen. First of all, let's talk about the good. It's nice rhyding that she's like celebrating her son, right, that's good.

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Speaker 5: Everybody Every parent should be like that. Yes, celebrating what they're.

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Speaker 1: Sobriding their son. That's nice. There's a family get together, that's nice. But we do have to talk about the rest of us, which I want all of us to sit here and think of our mothers. For a second. All right, Drew, you think of your mom, Ryan, your mom shading your mom, I'll do my mom. What are the chances we would see our mothers in that outfit?

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Speaker 5: Zero zero?

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Speaker 1: I mean, for those of you that know my mom because she caring wearing that, just think about it's my senior day and my mom will showing up in thigh high boots.

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Speaker 3: Come on, sh is straight out of a Shaggy nineteen ninety five music video.

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Speaker 1: Shack me Like you know you're you saying she was missus boom basket.

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Speaker 4: Bostic, Yeah, like she was.

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Speaker 3: At what point she was like kissing some guy's hand, did you Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I saw that.

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Speaker 4: That was weird.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, who is this guy who's getting his hand kissed by Poppy's mom.

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Speaker 1: She walked out on the field first of all, his brother, as Drew pointed out on cover zero, was in a tuxedo. His brother and her did not look like they were dressed dressed for the same event, did they?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not sure. It was just the whole thing was as weird.

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Speaker 1: It was bizarre. But even with all that, I'm not sure they'll ever be a moment quite like Drew when she was saddled up to the rail.

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Speaker 6: Oh incredible, incredible, absolutely incredible, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: She was, she was riding that thing, genuine pony.

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Speaker 6: She was playing in my head as she was riding it, and I said to people with me, I was like, thank god, this game isn't close, because if it went to overtime, they would have to switch to HBO if they're going to continue.

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Speaker 1: To show her, because each time they showed her it got a a little more and more provocative, more and more saucy. As the game went on.

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Speaker 5: They obviously had one camera dedicated to her, and.

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Speaker 1: She imagined that guy's job. By the way, they're like John, mom cam.

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Speaker 5: A whole game. They stay on her.

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Speaker 4: There are gigs and sports.

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Speaker 1: And then like you're right, she got more and more provocative and at that moment and like, I don't feel bad talking about it, because she was like pointing at the camera. She clearly was like camera, find me now. Drew made a good point that after she saddled up to it and was pointing, they never showed her again.

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Speaker 6: Do you think that was a call from the network like Okay, things are getting we got we gotta slow down. Mickey Mouse called in he broke the record, he got his his moment where he walked off the field with the backup came in. He was a big part of the final minutes, and they did not show her again show during Now she was all over that rail.

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Speaker 1: I mean the rail video. I'm kind of shock, Shannon that wasn't a bigger internet thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's good for ratings.

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Speaker 3: That tells me that she was probably doing something that they just could not show like that, Like whatever happened next was something that could not be shown on You need.

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Speaker 1: To go watch the video of her on the rail and look behind her. Okay, if you haven't seen it yet, look at the man who I believe is a Vandy security guard. That guy, Okay, you need to look at that guy and look at his face. He has a look of like I have the best job in sports. It was, you know, I was so bummed about the game itself, but I just couldn't get over how much they were showing her. And then there's Shannon, the theo Von part, like he's he's at senior day, like he's on the field.

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Speaker 3: He's about to be Pavia's step dad, no doubt, because he's got a thing for Pavia's mom.

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Speaker 1: See, I kind of always thought that was like kind of a joke. I don't think I don't think it's you think you think it's legit.

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Speaker 4: I think it is. Yeah, you wanted that date with it, with this mom.

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Speaker 1: I just have to say, and again I'm not hating do your thing, Diego, Pavi is mom. I mean this is his like last moment in the spotlight, right, do your thing. But the all I could sit there and think about was like the difference in what my senior day would have been with like mom and Larry and them walking on the field versus Diego Pavi's senior day with thigh high boots, cut off shorts, a tuxedo on his brother and theo Vonne Drew. It's just it's an unbelievable thing. Like it just shows you how different humanity can be. Yeah, that's the Pave experience. I mean, you know a year ago or two years ago that got the lanyard there, That stadium's under construction, there's no fans there. They have a locker room that's a tent. And then fast forward they flipped a pavy a switch and he's got He's sitting next to a parent grinding on a rail for a sold out stadium as they're whooping to I mean, just one the world for Vandy. That will be one for the books right there.

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Speaker 5: It's must see TV, which makes me think he's gonna be invited to the Heisman ceremony because they want that.

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Speaker 1: I think you might. He might. Yeah, I mean it's it's unbelievable. Now, as far as the game, that was bad, he is terrible. Everything went poorly everything. The offense couldn't move the ball, defense we could not stop. I mean, we couldn't do anything. It was forty five to three at one point. If they had wanted to, I think it could have been in like sixty five to three. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: They took Pavey out in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they took him out. It was I thought I thought we could lose. Actually picked us to win, which seems ridiculous now. I thought we could lose, but I just I did not think Ryan it would be like that. I thought after the last few weeks that was kind of out of our system. But it clearly was.

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Speaker 5: You guys are right. The final score forty five seventeen. It was much worse than that. It felt like seventy to three. It was so bad. What their first twelve plays they had eighteen yards of offense. I mean, they came out of the gate just awful and never recovered from it.

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Speaker 1: Drew. What do you blame that? Like they're I mean, they're better than us, clearly, and they played well. But that's the kind of beatdown that should not happen at this stage of a program ever. I mean just I mean, we've lost these other games. Even South Carolina beat us pretty badly. But it wasn't that. That was like old school embarrassment level. Yes, it absolutely was.

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Speaker 6: It was only the third time under Mark Stoops they've given up six hundred yards. The other two were many years ago to Georgia in Alabama. Pavias said a Vandy record, I know your defense is beat up and wounded, but that doesn't explain getting whooped like that. I mean, sure, I didn't think we'd win, and I knew they'd have trouble stopping that offense, but he was just picking them apart. Even early in the game, he made a couple of third down throws. The guys were just wide open in the middle of the field. You could tell in the first series that it was over before we even got minutes into the game, because that offense was just doing whatever they want.

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Speaker 1: Whatever they wanted. I mean, we had no chance of covering them. You know. It was it was. It was embarrassing. It was embarrassing.

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Speaker 6: And the deep balls, I want to add, you know, because I mentioned the injuries, the guy gotten burned was quarterback one on the deep balls, so that wasn't even injury.

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Speaker 1: Thing that was your start was a great throw. Like if that was the one thing that happened, you'd go, well, okay, I mean actually oddly, even though he got burned, I was oddly like, well, that was a great throw, great whatever. But then it just continued to get worse. You know, I guess you would say, well, they didn't quit, but the who cares I mean, were getting beat by so much. This was the one thing Ryan that couldn't happen. You know, if you were if you were trying to kind of win back fans that you had lost weeks ago, the one thing you couldn't do is get blown out. And then they did. I think all the negativity that had circled for weeks came back doublefold, and it put us into we are now in purgatory, and we're gonna definitely be in purgatory if we lose to Louisville. But this was the one thing if your Mark Stoops, you could not have happened. And Ryan then it did.

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Speaker 5: That game we all saw our social media, the Stoops detractors came out in full force, back at it, rallying the troop. After the three game win streak, they're back in full force. And now this game is, as Drew predict, it all comes down to the Louisville game. The whole perception of the off season is going to depend on how they play in that game. Coming out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you think, though, is there any chance it was so bad that what happens in the our assumption going into the game that Mark Stoops was back regardless. Is there anything that happened Saturday that changes that?

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Speaker 5: Not in my mind, but I know in a lot of fans' minds that share his Jane.

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Speaker 6: What do you think, I'm only watching a voluntarily stoop step away. I don't see Barnhart doing it, just with his comments and just the nature of Mitch Barnhart. I think still at this point, Winter lose Saturday. For it to change, you would have to be Stoops looking around and saying I don't want to keep going forward with this.

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Speaker 1: Is there a world though where that was a consideration before and Saturday made it more likely?

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Speaker 5: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Well, I asked you because Shannon, I didn't want to. Well, I gave my opinions on Saturday, and I'm going to talk about that a little later because I was kind of shocked at some of the reactions Saturday. Not the negativity. I knew that would be there, but it.

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Speaker 5: Just came out, and like you said, they kind of doubled down on everything, like it came out in full force.

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Speaker 1: Threefold, threefold.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that Mitch Barnehart has got it in them to fire Stoops.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think he has it any He also doesn't have the money. But there's also a sense of a fan base. You know, you can get to a point where a fan base has had it so much that it makes it toxic. And I didn't think that was gonna happen, but I think the way we lost brought that back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you lose forty five to seventeen against Louisville again.

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Speaker 1: If you get blown out by Louisville, then I think you almost have like you can't take two of those, especially since Louisville stinks now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they're terrible.

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Speaker 1: Little stinks right now. If they were to blow us out, then that's a whole nother thing.

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Speaker 5: A team that's kind of lumping into this game then game.

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Speaker 1: I mean they got blown out last week. Yeah, they got blown out thirty eight to seven.

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Speaker 5: If it was a bad week when the Michigan State basketball game ends up with them putting their walk ons walk ons in and then Vandy put their walk on a.

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Speaker 1: Week with two more embarrassing losses, we've had two laws is it probably hurt more? But I can't think of two more embarrassing in one week. My mom wants it to be clear she would not be in those boots.

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Speaker 5: I don't anybody thought she would caroenl look good in those boots though.

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Speaker 1: All right, Ryan, you know you you're it's a good thing you're there.

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Speaker 4: Stay away from my mom too, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, Ryan, you go hang out with theovon. Remember what did you do my mom in my wedding run.

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Speaker 5: Drew's mom was pinching my butto.

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Speaker 1: No, Ryan, I did say Shannon on cover zero that theo Von being in that picture would be like if it was my senior day and you saw the picture and it was me, Mom and Larry and Dana Carvey. That's what it would be like, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it kind of would. It's just the hot somebody, somebody make that happen. Yeah, do your thing.

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Speaker 1: Me, Mom, Larry and Dana Carvey at the Middlesborough High School Senior Day Ay five nine two A, you know, twenty twenty seven. We'll talk more about this. We will take your calls, get out into here. I'd like to hear your opinion. Unlike what people think. We don't sit to the calls. Shannon on the Morning Show. Shannon just gets to decide by whether he likes you or not. We'll take a break and be right back this Cass, I knew you were gonna play this. This is the part that I like. I know, Shannon, you and I were different people, but we have the same brain mailed when it comes to music. I knew you were gonna play this, and I like it. It's the right choice, all right. Parents shown in games Steph Curry's mom. They did show her a lot, Yeah, they did. I don't think as much as this, not even close. Greg Marshall's wife, Oh well, yeah, that's true. Did show a lot, Yeah, they did. Drew knows something about her. Who's a edition because of Greg Marshall's wife.

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Speaker 6: I was an international story that day because Lonzo Ball's dad.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: That's probably close to be honest, Ryan h. A. J. Mccerrn's girlfriend and mom.

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Speaker 5: Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 1: How about the Reed Shepherd family.

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Speaker 5: Well, for the local broadcast, yes, they did show a lot.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's not just Shannon that they showed her. It's the it's just the behavior.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean it was a party the entire game, and kept more and more provocative as the night went on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a party. It is. Well, listen, do your thing. I'm not girl, I'm not I'm not hating hobby people.

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Speaker 3: You think it'll be watching Vandy Tennessee just for Papia's mom this weekend.

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Speaker 1: If you if it was your mom, would you be embarrassed?

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Speaker 4: Probably?

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Speaker 5: Yes, I don't think we all would of our mothers.

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Speaker 1: Definitely. Okay, so yes, But do you think he was or do you like this is great.

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Speaker 6: She was probably at the table at are still in Nashville with him until three in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Do you but like, is there is there something good about that relationship where like he's hanging out with his mom or is it odd?

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Speaker 6: Yes, it's better than an absent mom. They seem to hang out and I would just be like, Mom, it's my senior day. Maybe some pants and then you're good. The boots what burst, rights, Matt, I'm sixty two years old. Those boots are fashionable now I wear them. Yes, she's on a different level, but don't absolutely crush thigh high boots sixty two Shannon and wearing.

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Speaker 1: Them for you.

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Speaker 4: There's no age lemon on boots, I guess, or booty shorts.

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Speaker 5: I mean, let's let's.

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Speaker 1: It is senior day. It's not like she was just going out with.

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Speaker 5: Her friends and there is a white elephant in the room.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm worried. I'm worried too. Run it by Drew. Drew, Okay, whisper it to Drew and Shannon will let Drew decide if he gets to say it? Okay, all right, because I trust drews I understand I'm back. Can he say it?

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's not as bad as I thought it would be. So I'm asking you can he say it?

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Speaker 1: Sure? All right? Go ahead.

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Speaker 5: The white elf in the room is she's a hottie. That's why she was being shown as often as she was.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't great, but I expected worse. Yeah I did.

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Speaker 4: Of course.

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Speaker 1: That's not even white all. I mean, I think everybody knows.

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Speaker 5: That, but we didn't mention, haven't mentioned it yet.

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Speaker 1: Because we are grown ups and we imply things. We don't need to say explicitly what people know. We don't need to Okay, Okay, I would you Drew, you knew this is what you knew? That Mario you too? Yeah, that's on if Mario's in there and let that happen, that's on him too, all right, Adam, go ahead, Adam.

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Speaker 7: I feel like joke m parents.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's a good one from the past. Good call, Adham.

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Speaker 7: At the game aside, which was terrible, we all know that.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 7: I actually found myself liking Diego Pavia and I know he is at the end of the draft boards. I hope he makes his in the NFL and maybe his bomb can quitter job but they's a boo oh.

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Speaker 1: Stop, that's rude. He's not gonna make the draft. I don't think, Shannon, I've not seen him. I mean, it's probably like a t bow situation where like his talents are perfectly served at the college level.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that he will, but I mean I don't you never know. I mean there there could be a team out there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, at least somebody who brings him into camp. I guess, and they'll see I mean, how tall is he?

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Speaker 4: Sure he's like a little Doug Flutie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly That's a great way to put it. He is he is. He is a Doug Flutie.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, if worked for Flutie, maybe it could have worked for him. But I just don't see it happening. But I could be wrong.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't see any value in in like going over the game, we stun Let's let's talk for just a second about where this fan base is. It is. We had four weeks ago where we did the little raise your hand. Ninety seven percent of the audience at Whiskey Thief wanted a new coach right right then. We did it last week and how many of the audience wanted a new coach. It was like three right, totally flipped, totally flipped. Now where do we think they are? I think we're right back where we were.

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Speaker 5: I think it's that bad.

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Speaker 1: You think it's back to whiskey thief? Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 6: I mean the three game win streak was fun, and I'll never diminish to win over Florida or at Auburn, but I think he still needs more than that to really win people over.

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Speaker 1: So does that say fans are in some ways fickle? Okay? You could flip back and forth that quickly.

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Speaker 5: Sure, I was thinking it was more closer to maybe seventy thirty.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Ryan, if you were to go online, it's almost universal we need to change. Correct. Do you deal with people, because I think you probably more than anybody on this show. Do do you deal with people who are like, we should still give him another year?

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Speaker 5: I do, But then again, most people I deal with they're closer to my age. I think maybe the older generation.

00:21:14
Speaker 1: Some one of those people say, because I think those people are probably not on message boards, they're not on social media. What is it that they say?

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Speaker 5: This is what I think you know? We've gone through these horrible UK football seasons of the nineties where we finished one in ten and two and nine, when there's eleven game seasons. It was had the nation's longest losing streak, all those losing games to Tennessee, to Florida. Just the fact that we're back to this level is such a turnaround. They could give credit all the stoops. So I think they're willing to throw him a little life jacket, a life preserver.

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Speaker 1: Just what if there's people who would say the life preserver was we brought you back after you were four and eight last year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a bad year last year. But I think, just as me again, if I talked to the fact he's kind of turned it around here in the middle of the season, even despite the game yesterday Saturday.

00:22:05
Speaker 1: Let's say there was no Louisville game and you were the ad also knowing you have to pay a thirty seven million dollar bio, are you letting him go? Ryan?

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Speaker 5: I'm not. I'm bringing him back because I want to bring Cutter Bully back, and I want to bring Bush Hammdon back, and we're gonna build on this what we started here this year.

00:22:25
Speaker 6: I gotta find that money because next year is not gonna be fun. People aren't gonna buy tickets.

00:22:30
Speaker 1: And when you are letting him go, people.

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Speaker 6: Are gonna make a statement next year. Yeah, unless they find a way to market cutter Bowli and find a way to bring some life into the stadium. I mean, the people bragging about how fun a Vanderbilt game was is my biggest takeaway of all of it. Forget the loss. The fact that Vanderbilt has an atmosphere that people want to be a part of is a bigger problem.

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Speaker 1: By the way, white elephant doesn't mean what Ryan said it to. No, that's like a christ Christmas game. That's change guests.

00:22:56
Speaker 5: The elephant in the.

00:22:57
Speaker 1: Room, the elephant in the room, not the white elephant. All of us skipped over that. By the way, Shannon and I will give our verdicts after the break. TJ. Smith, personal injury attorney, called TJ. He'll make them pay now.

00:23:09
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00:23:13
Speaker 1: Who's listening to him, cackling in the background, just going on, why are you you are? We all need to have this self confidence Ryan does in himself. He like he cackles like a hyena about things, and it's there's only it's the jokes he makes Shannon, which usually are involving Flatulen's yeah, or it's an attractive older woman. Those are the two things that make him laugh the most. Am I right about that?

00:23:44
Speaker 4: Those are his weakness?

00:23:46
Speaker 1: Those are the like like he would be the easiest person to do comedy for.

00:23:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody wants him in the front.

00:23:52
Speaker 1: Everybody wants him in the front row. And there are two kinds of jokes and he'll just laugh.

00:23:57
Speaker 4: That's Ryan.

00:23:58
Speaker 1: That's by the way. And I just somebody sent out a picture and I just retweeted it of the mother with the security guard behind her and the look on his face. You need to go to Twitter and look at it. Have you seen it?

00:24:14
Speaker 8: Oh?

00:24:14
Speaker 1: Yeah? First of all, is she wearing a crown? U? Is that like a princess? Crowd?

00:24:22
Speaker 5: She had one on at some point.

00:24:24
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that, I think she is. Why does she have a football?

00:24:28
Speaker 6: Probably probably one of the thirty touchdowns he threw he gave to her. Every one in the crowd probably had a football from that game.

00:24:35
Speaker 1: All right, So we didn't we didn't do ours Shannon, what would you.

00:24:40
Speaker 4: Do if there's no Lobo game and that was the end.

00:24:43
Speaker 1: Of the season, just ended today.

00:24:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would bring them back. I would bring him back for one more season. But if it's if we have the season again next year, that's it.

00:24:53
Speaker 1: Does the does the for you too? Does the thirty seven million dollars change it? Like, let's say there was no buy then you if there was no buy out, would you both let him go?

00:25:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, if there's no buyo, that makes things a lot easier. But I mean the thirty seven million dollars complicates every yew.

00:25:08
Speaker 1: But so let's just live in a world where there's no buyo. Are you both doing it? Are you both letting him go?

00:25:14
Speaker 5: I'm I'm still not letting him go because I think they're five wins and this season, the way it started out, I think it's a good turnaround. I think it's a good coach and you got them again, take forgot to forget what happened.

00:25:25
Speaker 1: So you're on the no matter what, you'd bring him.

00:25:27
Speaker 5: Back unless they get blown out again Saturday, then I'm.

00:25:30
Speaker 1: Drew's on even with the thirty seven million. So let me ask you, Drew the question. I asked the caller, where are you getting the money? You gotta find it, because at some point saying I tell you I can't get it, I don't. There's just there's nobody who'll give it. So what am I doing?

00:25:48
Speaker 9: Well?

00:25:48
Speaker 6: At that point, I think we look at the ad and say, how did we get in this situation? Fair Enough, at some point you have to look at the money you're gonna lose. It is crazy that they could not sell out one single football game with all men Tennessee, Texas and Florida on the schedule. That's embarrassing in itself. So if you run it back, you're not gonna sell it again next year. So at some point you're just losing money and running fans off.

00:26:11
Speaker 1: Well, you people say that, I'm not sure that's true. I mean, for instance, last year was our high season ticket sales of any year besides COVID, and I believe we were twelve hundred down this year. Now that's a decent amount of money, but it's not thirty seven million dollars next year. I would expect it would be down some But like we had a caller say, twenty thousand, Ryan, that's not it wouldn't.

00:26:35
Speaker 5: Be down that much, I wouldn't think no.

00:26:38
Speaker 1: I mean that would be one out of every two season ticket holders saying no.

00:26:45
Speaker 6: If they do another spring where they don't even speak, Now, that's it could happen, right, So for me.

00:26:50
Speaker 1: I'm making you all do it. I'll answer to there needs to be a change in terms of it's just better for everybody if there's a different coach next year. But I do think if I'm trying to like figure out the financial responsibilities here, I don't think you can just pay a thirty seven million dollar lump sum in sixty days. I just don't think the University of Kentucky can do that. Now, if I had a magic tech like tech billionaire who came to me and said, Madam will write you the check, then honestly, I'd probably do it because I think it's necessary because I think the FAM morale is so low. But if you don't have that, then I'm with you, Shannon, I don't think you can do it, yeah, because I don't know where you that money does not grow on trees. You have to remember that from every other fan base that did this, they had a deal where they could pay it over time. Jimbo Fisher is the only one that had a lump some payment. Interestingly enough, Drew the same agent Mark Stoops had who Nego sheiated it and two Texas A and m Alums came and said we'll pay for it, and that's why they did it.

00:28:08
Speaker 5: We don't have that, And it seems like Kentucky's biggest people that possibly could pay that are very close with Mark Stoops.

00:28:16
Speaker 1: Now. I think four or five weeks ago, some of those people agreed there was a change needed. I'm not sure if that's what they think now. I'm not trying to speak for him, but I'm not sure if that's what they think now. Now, maybe Shannon, if you lose by fifty to Louisville, we'll think something different.

00:28:32
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, And it really does all come down to this game. I think that the narrative for Stoops that we're going to have when the offseason all comes down to what happens on Saturday.

00:28:40
Speaker 1: Right, last question, Let's say you beat Louisville and made a Bowl for Drew. For you, you still make the change. If you're six and six and you make a.

00:28:51
Speaker 6: Bowl, I still have very little faith in next season, but I'll admit it is much harder to fire him if he made it to a bowl game and pay that.

00:29:02
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean that's where we are, and you say that was zero faith moving forward. I don't let me just say I don't have a lot of faith. But I also know coming up with that money, they don't have it unless it magically appears. They don't have it because this athletic department is at this point. This will change in five or six years when the business of Nile becomes more clear, But right now, our basketball and football roster were dependent on the generosity of a handful of people, and I don't think those people feel the way a lot of this fan base does, at least to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's kind of the sense I get.

00:29:52
Speaker 5: And next year's schedule is where you've got four home games in the SEC, five road games in the SEC.

00:29:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nick Rause is sending me so season tickets last year we're down about twenty five hundred. So that's a decent amount. But what's what? What is? What does season tickets cost? Twenty five hundred is times?

00:30:13
Speaker 9: What?

00:30:14
Speaker 1: Right? Twenty five hundred times? What's a season ticket cost? Twelve hundred dollars something? Like that average. Yeah, it's so widespread with Yeah, it's all, But what would the average be you think, let's just say fifteen hundred dollars, let's just say that. That's it's probably high, but let's just say it. Twenty five hundred times fifteen hundred is what Shanton put that into the thing.

00:30:35
Speaker 3: Twenty five hundred times fifteen hundred would be three point seven million.

00:30:40
Speaker 1: Three point seven million. That's conveniently a decimal place from thirty seventy million. So that means to make up that that thirty seven million, you would need twenty five thousand people to stop their season tickets.

00:30:58
Speaker 5: I don't know if that'll happen.

00:30:59
Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen. So I'm just I'm just doing the math. I'm not making judgments. That's just the math. Mark go ahead, and Mark, guys go ahead.

00:31:12
Speaker 8: Hello. Yeah, you were on the right track that I thought he was. On Saturday, you kept asking everybody where the money's come from. You have thirty eight thousand season ticket holders for football. You charge each one two hundred dollars more. That comes up to seven point six million dollars. You pay the new coach six million dollars you've got three million dollars less over. If you can't get the thirties, you can't get a loan, so you don't have to do the sixty days. Okay, then there's I.

00:31:39
Speaker 1: Mean to get a loan. Your your math. You're paying for the new coach, but you're still not paying for the old coach.

00:31:45
Speaker 8: Well, the old coach that we have a budget. You have a budget next year. If he is he's still here, you have a budget of.

00:31:51
Speaker 1: Not our budgets in the road, by our budgets. No no, no, no, no. The nine million dollars. They have to pay it in sixty days.

00:32:00
Speaker 8: Okay, you get alone.

00:32:02
Speaker 1: The problem is thought, here's a problem with here's a problem. I bet they could get alone. I bet they probably could. Here's the problem. For the first time, hang on. For the first time in twenty years, the athletic department is in the red now because of nil. They used to be in the black. We used to give money back to the school. We are now in the red and we actually had to take a loan from the school. It's first time we've ever had to do that, by my understanding, in a long long time. So this is probably the worst financial position the athletics department has been in in twenty years.

00:32:42
Speaker 8: Have you looked at that schedule next year?

00:32:45
Speaker 1: Oh, it's terrible, it's gonna be terrible. Whoever they goes.

00:32:47
Speaker 8: I mean, here, we're going to we're going to relive. We're going to relive what we did this year.

00:32:54
Speaker 1: I agree again, but but that still doesn't make the money. But that still doesn't make the money appear.

00:32:59
Speaker 8: I mean, I thirty eight thirty eight thousand season ticket holders pay two hundred dollars more.

00:33:06
Speaker 1: Thirty eight thousand, But that could be, but you're still thirty million short.

00:33:12
Speaker 8: No, well, you do whatever. You have to get a loan. If you do that, thirty eight thousand times two hundred dollars gets you seven point six million dollars.

00:33:19
Speaker 1: Per year, and you still have thirty four million.

00:33:22
Speaker 8: Huh, then you have then you that's seven point six per year. You get a loan, but.

00:33:27
Speaker 1: They have to pay it in sixty days. They have to pay it in sixty days, So you.

00:33:30
Speaker 8: Have to you have to get a loan to pay the forty five million dollars.

00:33:34
Speaker 5: Just get a loan.

00:33:35
Speaker 1: Match we're just keeping loans. We have a loan to put Wi Fi in the stadium, I mean, and there's also the fact that they're trying to do this entertainment district, which I don't know it will work, but my guess is they have a huge budget for that. So again, I'm just giving you realities. I'm not the one making the decision. Drew would let him go now, money be damned, Shannon and Ryan would keep him. I'm leaning towards getting rid of him, but I also somebody's gonna have to show me where my money comes from, because I don't know.

00:34:08
Speaker 6: We keep focusing on Stoops and Bowley in the schedule. It's a money issue. Where's Mitch's accountability? He handcuffed both programs. I think it's a completely fair no. No one's saying his name and all this cloud.

00:34:20
Speaker 1: Well it should because you're right that contract was a disaster.

00:34:24
Speaker 6: So yes, Stoops could be better. But we're in this situation because a Mitch not Stoops. Stoops just signed of paper that was beneficial for him, which anyone with a sign.

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00:35:39
Speaker 5: Well, I can read you a text message I got if you want me to go? That's trying to be funny.

00:35:44
Speaker 1: Well he gets mad, Yes he does. I love you for that. You like you? Ride all laugh at it if somebody writes him on the table level. But Ride does not like strangers giving him a hard time. I know you guys can do it.

00:35:55
Speaker 5: They can. Okay, here's the text I got. You're talking about this currently? I think Stoops needs another year. His mentality is perfect for us. He had a terrible schedule the last two years. If Bowie is this good and they can improve offense, I'm good with it.

00:36:07
Speaker 1: See. I wish we could do Drew a pole of the fan base because I continue to believe it's hard to get a representative sample, you know what I mean, Like it's hard to know. If you go on Twitter, everyone wants to fire. If you go on CHS board, virtually everyone wants to fire. If you come to our shows, you see how it fluctuates week to week. Yeah, right, I don't know what it's like if you're if you were to take a poll of the season ticket holders. I don't know. I feel like I say this a lot. I feel like we interact with more different types of fans than anyone, and it's still hard to read because every group is different. I had a lady on Friday at the Remote Shannon at Parlor Pizza get mad at me and say you're way too mean to stop, and I was like me, yeah, there are people who think I'm too nice to him. So I don't know, Drew, how you could get a representative sample, and I wish I could, Like if I said to you texting the text machine, do you want to keep him or not? I think the notts would definitely win because the keeping people are going to be like, well, I don't want to, so I think we're Drew. It's like we're all almost guessing, you know, yeah, and I'm with you.

00:37:25
Speaker 6: I'll get I'll get two messages in two minutes, and one of them will say you're being too mean. Stop being frank Franklin, this is unbecoming, You're not a fan, this is bad for the university, and the other person is like, you're not being mean enough, and they will be back to back in my messages a minute apart.

00:37:40
Speaker 1: And the other thing is we all tend in life hang out with people that are like us, Shannon, right, So we end up we end up with hearing the opinions of people who have the same opinions we are. It's exactly what happened to my party in twenty sixteen. Democrats only hung out with each other and then we couldn't believe Trump won.

00:37:55
Speaker 3: Yep, if you did that poll this past friday, you'd have a completely different result than you would And you.

00:38:00
Speaker 1: Even Drew, who's the one who most thinks there should be a change, acknowledges if we beat Louisville, maybe it flips, and so like, that's why this is all so much in flux. It seems like even week to week. One person writes Matt, I don't understand how boosters could want him back. Did they not care about the university or do they just care about their friendship? Well, that's easy for you to say because it's not your money. So let's let's just put our money where our mouth is. How much would you be willing to give to pay marks? How much money would you be willing to write on a check that goes directly into Mark Stoop's pocket.

00:38:43
Speaker 6: Me zero dollars because I didn't put him in this spotcatire Matt.

00:38:47
Speaker 1: Now, Drew is the one who most wants a change, and he's willing to put up zero dollars.

00:38:54
Speaker 6: Because I'm not backing up the situation that someone put them in there.

00:38:57
Speaker 1: And that's a reasonable position.

00:38:59
Speaker 6: Yes it is, and there are normal circumstances I would but I'm not letting someone out.

00:39:03
Speaker 1: Okay, but think about that. We want these people to pay money, and a lot of them may have Drew's view of well, I'm not the one that did it. I ain't paying and so then where are you getting the money? It's not going to magically appear somewhere because I Drew's position is completely reasonable, Shannon, that would be the position you would have. Of course, I ain't paying it. You did this, Do.

00:39:26
Speaker 4: Whatever you want with the money as long as it's not mine. I don't care what you do.

00:39:29
Speaker 6: And I think that would be just another bailout for him and a couple of boosters. So fans want a bailout, and there are a couple and a lot some of the boosters may be like.

00:39:38
Speaker 1: Well, I ain't coming from me. So Mark, Anthony, what's up? Who's next?

00:39:44
Speaker 7: Good morning? Oh y'all go ahead listen fellas uh Diego's mom. The first shot I saw over shit or propped up on it railings right, I wasn't the I had boots. It was the area between the top of them boots and them all right, all right.

00:39:58
Speaker 1: Mark, that's that's a right there. Just everybody just turn it down a little bit.

00:40:05
Speaker 7: Okay, there was there was little boys watching the football game. Fell in love with you. It was mine and didn't really know why. I understand as far as next week's game. When you have a horse, you run him in a race and he finishes, dfl uh, your next move is to go down in class. And I really think, I really think next week's game we're going down in class.

00:40:29
Speaker 1: We are.

00:40:29
Speaker 7: That gives us a chance.

00:40:32
Speaker 1: And this is a race next week.

00:40:36
Speaker 7: So if people are still wanting to get rid of Stoopsy after next year, even if the next month, next week, even if he wins, who you're going to get to replace him? And is that person going to be able to recruit enough talent?

00:40:50
Speaker 8: Well?

00:40:51
Speaker 1: I disagree. That would be one place I would disagree with you. There are people I appreciate the call you could get. This job is now much more attractive than it was fifteen years ago. In Mimi, Dennis and Richmond. Go ahead, Dennis.

00:41:06
Speaker 10: It all comes down Saturday, and you know Steps wins this game and as a good off season that camro Bowley, there's gonna be season tickets. I'm a season ticket older, and you know I'm gonna renew my It all comes down to Saturday.

00:41:24
Speaker 1: Okay, So is that right, Dennis? You your renewal will will depend on whether we beat Louisville.

00:41:30
Speaker 9: Well, well, I don't want It's gonna come down to a lot of things. But I've been a Sea ticket older since ninety eight, so I'm not one of these people that want to I'm not irrational to give up my season tickets because of one football game. But I had become a frustrated the last few years, the last couple of years, especially because we got drug three times this year in the SEC we did three times we got drugs, and there's at this one. Don't get me wrong, I'm a speech guy, but at some point this has got an end now to me, Like I said, it all comes down Saturday and what we do Saturday Day.

00:42:10
Speaker 7: I think there's a.

00:42:10
Speaker 1: Lot of Denis. I gotta cut you off because we gotta go to break. I think there's a lot of fans like Dennis, Yeah, more than you think, who are like their view can change. Came to game, and Saturday will be big for those people. We're gonna take a break, We'll come back. I renumber two. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.