Mercedes Javid of Shahs Of Sunset Fame

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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, it's me. If you can hear in the background, I've got MJ. Mercedes Javid, is it javit or Javid Javid? Okay? Good? And she has taken a cute little interest in my brother Easton.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's so cute. I mean not just to like make you like a child cute, but like I can't get over it.

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Speaker 1: And I'm so do you think we look alike? No, but you because I'm injected though.

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Speaker 2: No freckles. It's gonna take a while. Like there's like sometimes you're the way that you look alike comes in different. Well, No, like you have like lash, you have the same eyes, you have the same structure. You should look.

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Speaker 1: Very twitter, but we don't.

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Speaker 2: No, you do have features that are similar. But like right now, he's got like curly hair with a beanie and I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know you've got yeah, thin straight hair right. No, you've got giant injected lips. He's the more shaved.

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Speaker 2: If he shaved his face like your mustache and your goate If that's what you is that what you call it?

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Speaker 3: If I look more like I'd look like I'm fifteen, and.

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Speaker 2: You have freckles. I mean I don't know. I think you look alike.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. I like it.

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Speaker 4: I'll take it.

00:01:22
Speaker 1: You the girl.

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Speaker 4: My injections are crazy.

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Speaker 2: On Easton, It's like I think, I mean makes sense.

00:01:29
Speaker 1: No, I tell them I have to run background checks on anybody that you invite.

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Speaker 2: Is it a subscription that you have to pay every time? That much?

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Speaker 1: My PI gives me a discount now, okay, because I run so many background checks, which is why I don't have many people in my life because they rarely pass them.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I have no shot at ever finding anyone with her.

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Speaker 4: In the picture.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't blame her, but you know, I've been wanting to set you up with somebody for a while.

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Speaker 1: I know. But the second you said he's a good guy, I was like, I can't bring my trauma into that.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know, like if this is the first topic that I want us to jump off on. But like what Easton is saying about, don't stay in that lane. Yeah, don't stay in the lane of like the compound can't allow men on it because your life has to be more about more than that.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, And just so you know, like my I know that a good man is out there and I'm going to find him. There's just certain things that are hard lines for me. Number One, I need to build an empire before I get involved with a man like I want to have all of this. I don't want to think about anybody else except for my little family and our wants and needs.

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Speaker 2: I totally agree, right, I want I use for myself as a married woman with the kid and everything. Like, I'm all about building right now.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. And you were fortunate enough to find someone like Tommy where you could build that together, whereas it kind of for me it didn't. It didn't go as planned, you know that was that was my mindset too. But what headspace were you in before you met Tommy.

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Speaker 2: I just want to sell a house and go to Coachella, Okay, And that was all I wanted in life. That put that on my tombstone until I met Tommy. Okay, put that on my tombstone and go to That was like the whole of MJ was that.

00:03:28
Speaker 1: Kids weren't in your mind. It was Wow, did you ever.

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Speaker 2: No get away from me with husbands and children?

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Speaker 1: Because that's the vibe I got in early Shaws days.

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Speaker 2: I would if you even a friend of mine got pregnant, I would detach from that friendship. It goes to so I felt, but I know what it is as you're explaining it with how you're building your empire and you're doing an amazing fucking job at it. We overhere just want your heart to be healed. And that's the space that we just don't want you to like go through your day feeling like a hole in your heart or feeling like a negative feeling, because like I think that we energetically feel each other, like when we care about each other and have those connections. So sometimes, like I just I just hope that as you're doing all those things that you're not feeling so much pain that like the pain of a negative relationship is taking up space in your heart.

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Speaker 1: For like the next guy, I'm loving everything you're saying, so can you're like my therapist right now. So this is where I'm at right now. Right. So everything happened a year and a half ago, and I had two things happening at once that could not coexist. The first one was dealing with the trauma that I had experienced and heartbreak. The second was I'm entering a custody battle because I am genuinely concerned for the well being of my daughter. It at that point was we have to pick what comes first. Obviously ocean safety comes f first, So that is what I leaned into. I was like, I will get to me and what I've experienced later. Now that I'm somewhat coming out of it and I see the light at the end of the tunnel, I feel like I'm now able to say, Okay, what are the reasonings behind why you're feeling a little cold hearted? Because I feel like the heartbreak has gone away. Now it's the just like the wound of it's more of a scar now that needs like a good steroid injection. Am I making sense right?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 2: Like you know the word metastasized?

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Speaker 1: No, what is that?

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Speaker 2: It's like when something that you do. I'm gonna completely make up my own definition of it, but it's like metastasizing, as if something scars in the scar gets bigger and like stays like that instead of what happened. What we're saying is if you get too comfortable in this way and people say like, oh, I'm forty years old, I can't live with anyone. I'm too set in my ways right, well, this way that you were being because out of like all of the stuff that you went through is pretty new in your defense, and no one should rush you. And everyone who is around you we love and see how you're like leveling up and thriving and all of that is amazing. But at the other end of it, it's like that little thing that says, don't let this thing with being so comfortable without that kind of intimacy metastasize like, don't let it like grow on top of Someone is going to come into the comment section and be like metastasize means yeah, like it's like a barnacle, Like it gets bigger and bigger, like it's just gonna like get more of a it's gonna wand and do not want barnacles. It is, though, but.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I have the ability to check myself before we go too far.

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Speaker 2: You do believe that you do? Yes, I likely.

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Speaker 1: Believe that I when when we're at a crossroads, I can say something's not working and how are we going to fix this so that we don't end up where we don't want to be, like we're so deep in it that there's no coming back and I have like a very I have an open mind because there have been men that have come into the picture where I'm like so open and I'm like real, I'm aware and I'm leary, but I feel like that's just being smart. But they just haven't been the greatest of men, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, Like the pictures, there's one that's been my age, there's one that's been a few years older, and like it's a very pretty picture until you kind of get up closed and you really start looking at it and you go, Okay, this just wouldn't we wouldn't be compatible.

00:07:48
Speaker 1: No judgment for the way you live your life, but it's just not in alignment with my life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, I mean two guys is not gonna They're not. It's too few.

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Speaker 1: But don't you think that two guys is a lot?

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Speaker 2: I mean it depends on how like they walked in. Like the way that I met Tommy wasn't really like the odds were in our favor right.

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Speaker 4: An app I've never had a dating app.

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Speaker 1: Was the app was your intention to just like have a quick hit like school trying to get a nut or okay, are you looking for something?

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Speaker 2: No, what happened was that my girlfriend had just caught her husband on the nanny cam having sex with the girl that like she was, and my girlfriend was on a business trip providing for the family, and so her way of like getting back on the saddle was to download this brand new app that no one had ever really fucked with. And I was there for moral support. So I was like, I can't do this. This is crazy. I will never do this. And I've never had like I've never been really single, so it was like I had only broken up with somebody like tooth prior to like downloading the app, and I was like deleted it, and I was like, no, I can't do this. So then she's like, let's get drunk and do it. So then we got drunk and then we did it, like sitting on the couch downloading it. So that's how that was. I was just doing it for moral support.

00:09:16
Speaker 1: WHOA, Why did I never know this? My brain is shook.

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Speaker 2: She does sleep with men. She likes what she's doing for.

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Speaker 1: Her Okay, so she is the squirrel trying to get a nut. Yeah, I respect it. She would be great for the compound.

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Speaker 2: She actually she would be perfect.

00:09:34
Speaker 1: Right. We're not anti men here, No, we're very clear. I love the good man, so I just don't want him to live with me.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I think you have babies.

00:09:43
Speaker 1: With him, marry them to the guy. I just want to pick a peck, wait, pecker.

00:09:52
Speaker 2: You know it's a nursery rhyme, right, I think Paul picked a peck of pickle.

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Speaker 4: I guess I picked.

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Speaker 2: Paul picked a peck of pickled pick.

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Speaker 3: Piper picked, Yeah, Piper shit, Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers.

00:10:07
Speaker 1: They use that a lot in acting class to get your mouth warm.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you got to say it backwards. That's why I gave it.

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Speaker 1: It's a mouthful, you know, which is I'm open to having a mouthful. Just don't want you living with me. All right, So when was the.

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Speaker 2: Last time that you, oh my god, jam sure.

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Speaker 1: Or received twenty eighteen, oh twenty eighteen giving.

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Speaker 2: But and your brother is okay with this conversation. I really appreciate it.

00:10:30
Speaker 1: Very weird.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it happens outside of the podcast, which is just even better.

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Speaker 2: This is the way it should be. You shouldn't get rided oft. Yeah, you shouldn't get rided I had a brother, we weren't related by blood and this was the vibe, and they eat like everything about it, and he is like beautiful at all of the things that you guys are. Thank you, and we could talk about things like dating and dick and sex and whatever. Yeah, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's probably weird to some people, but like weird, this is it. We're like best friend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't censor, you can't sensor. Oh, I wanted to talk about a blowjob from twenty eighteen. I can't say it in front of Easton. Forget about it.

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Speaker 1: Forget about it. And this is it's the one place where there's unconditional love no matter what I that comes out of my mouth.

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Speaker 2: And they make and he's like a focus group, like a twenty four hour build in, Like so yeah, the male point of view. Yeah wait, backup question, backup comment. Actually, Okay, you and I then will agree the guy that you're not ready to meet. I just want to set you guys up as friends, so that hill like, just can we just talk about the will before I leave today. I'll do that, yeah, because I'm to do it via text. I wanted to do it when I see you face to face, and this is going.

00:11:48
Speaker 5: To be it.

00:11:48
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, we can talk about these.

00:11:50
Speaker 2: And if you guys don't meet for a year or ten years or ever, you don't like each other. At least I feel like I've crossed my t's and dotted the.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I like the way you say.

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Speaker 2: So can you tell me what you woke up at? Four am? Five am?

00:12:04
Speaker 1: I woke up very early because I had to do what I had to pick up my daughter. So I'm literally in my pajamas right now.

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Speaker 2: I want to see. Okay, your pajamas are amazing. They are when I get dressed every day. Yes, I love every time.

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Speaker 1: I'm in a Tupac T shirt. I was a little I offended myself this morning though, because I couldn't find my LA snap back flat brim hat so it's a New York snap bag. It really is an insult to Tupac. But I asked for forgiveness, but it was I was very conflicted this morning with this hat and this T shirt.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I have Adidas shoes and only clean Nike socks, and I'm like, fuck, I can't wear socks today. Obviously.

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Speaker 1: Do you go by that rule when it comes to your designer brands too, Like if you're wearing like, let's just say a Gucci handbag, but you have a Louis Vuitton. Like Louis Vuitton shoes.

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Speaker 2: I won't mix logo.

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Speaker 1: I might. I don't love it either. In fact, I feel like Dereite has conquered the art of just looking like one brand threw up all over her. Yeah. I don't want to do that much.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think it's too much. I mean not doing Derete, but I like too. This is what I'll do if I want to wear a pair of white sunglasses and a white purse like today, I have a Louis vuiton bag.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I have that same bag in hot pink.

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Speaker 2: It's very good, thank you. But then I'll have like ten dollars sunglasses.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about this because you and I are on the same page when it comes to Easton. You'll dig this because I have to do with fashion. Eastans into fashion. I like to take a look that is not very expensive and then upgrade it with I spend money on my shoes. I will spend money on my handbags. I will spend money on my I wear too.

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Speaker 2: Sure. Absolutely, I have probably the most expensive sunglasses that anyone are they ever bad A thousands, maybe six hundred like Celine or something, right. But I think a harder flex is wearing non designer clothes and being proud of that.

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Speaker 4: I love that even more because I don't usually wear anything design.

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Speaker 1: It, no, I think unless it's a piece that I have to have where it's like I have this Gucci trench coat that's absolutely amazing, and I was like, this is a stable piece that I feel like I'll have.

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Speaker 2: Forever, forever, forever.

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Speaker 1: But just to go and spend mad money on some like little white t shirt with the Gucci across it, it's like number one. I think it's tacky.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're supposed to wear the trench coat and then everything else Gucci.

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Speaker 1: No very amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the most tacky thing to me is like the dudes in like the Gucci to track suits that is just like the blue with the red stripe down it symbol.

00:14:47
Speaker 1: It gets a little shoes.

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Speaker 3: It's like, dude, just wear the pants of White Tea and then just a pair of Adidas.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 4: You gotta do.

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Speaker 2: It's like somebody.

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Speaker 3: A piece or two that are you know, branded, but then everything else just like an old style T shirt you can throw on right on.

00:15:07
Speaker 2: Sorry, no, no, I was just saying I'm trying not to cut you off. I was going to say, like the lady at the store got you.

00:15:14
Speaker 1: Yes, she's stuck all over you. Yes, yeah, even the socks.

00:15:22
Speaker 2: She is going to take the rest of the week off because you want everything exactly.

00:15:27
Speaker 3: With Jessica, like Jessica's.

00:15:31
Speaker 2: We're circling, We're saying, is she the lady sold the head to toe logo mania and then was able to take off the rest of the month.

00:15:43
Speaker 1: Sharks has been off the air for.

00:15:47
Speaker 2: Two years, I think, so, I really think August October August a year and a half, two a year and a half, two years.

00:15:54
Speaker 1: Okay, what is the best part about not having your life documented and the part that you the most?

00:16:01
Speaker 2: So season one through seven felt real to me. Season eight and nine felt like garbage trash. Okay, So I don't miss it because I think that was the direction that it was going to keep going in. I know that your experience might be, you know, different or similar in different ways than I want to know, But like, I don't want to like make a show and then watch it and have a completely different experience from what I did and participated in than to what I see air and have my friends that know me and know what happened sit there and say, MJ, why did this, Like why did the producers do that? Or why did the edit come out that way? Or why did these people say this when you weren't around and like pushing a story and maybe cutting out things that are your life that would have made all the difference to me. That's really the only thing I can see right now. I don't really see anything that I miss.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, because you're still very much relevant. Thanks, You're still, like, I think, one of the most interesting people that I've ever encountered or watched on TV. Like, I'm interested in your life.

00:17:15
Speaker 2: Thank you.

00:17:16
Speaker 1: I can't because I'm still in it really share my experience. My hope for this season is that they show what my life is like. I don't know if that will happen. There's a lot of big decisions that I'm making in my world that maybe will fit in, maybe won't fit in, And I guess we'll just see.

00:17:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, show us both sides, show us how smart we are, show us how you know, complicated and layered our life is don't just show.

00:17:43
Speaker 1: The like and I'm not even allowed to have Ocean on camera, you know the other side that made it. That's true, And you know, I'm actually okay with that. I feel like I'm depriving the world of like Ocean being so magical because she's so much fun and so sweet and I just feel like it's cute to watch. But maybe that's just because I'm her mom. But I also feel and you'll get this, our lives are so out there and me being a mom is like the one thing that's just mine. Like I've seen what people say just based off of a picture I post imagine if they had actual footage of me being a mom, what they would grasp onto to drag me. It's like, being a mom is the one piece of my life that you guys can't fucking touch. I love that just mine.

00:18:28
Speaker 2: I think that is amazing, And I just think for me, for the Shaws thing, it was a lot like one of the things I did which got cut out was my real estate and that was why I was just a show.

00:18:43
Speaker 1: I think people just now think that you like got started in real estate.

00:18:47
Speaker 2: Right, I've had my license for twenty years. I've never not had my license.

00:18:51
Speaker 1: Wow.

00:18:52
Speaker 2: Yes, So the reason why I think my phone rang to do a show was because of the person I was right house party, no husband, no nothing. And then when those scenes started to get cut out, I had a really hard time with that because it was such a big part of who I am. If you want to show me like chugging from a bottle of dom, also show me closing deals with a neuroscientist as a client who is putting his biggest asset in my hands to negotiate, sell and everything. So that is what I was. And if my show that I do can't support that, then I'm definitely not going to want to dedicate my life now that I have a kid, because then I'm not really securing my future right, And I want best for him and I don't want him to at drop off to have his parents think like, oh, that bitch just like was shoving a tampon her girlfriend's asset in Mexico two days ago, right, you know?

00:19:50
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes, those are things that I think every mom who decides to sign up for reality TV or is on reality TV and has a kid is like, it's your biggest fear?

00:20:02
Speaker 2: Did we just title the episode shove a tampon up a girlfriend's ass.

00:20:06
Speaker 1: It'll probably be in the bio one percent. It'll be whats to come on this episode. So you're now with the agency, Yes, that's where you've hung your license.

00:20:18
Speaker 2: Yes, as of December.

00:20:19
Speaker 1: As of December, everything that's going on with Kyle, who's obviously in the public eye, Mauricio, I mean, do you have any thoughts about it?

00:20:31
Speaker 2: My thoughts are that being married is really hard. I'm happily married. Well, let's put happily married in a quotation, because it's Tommy and I are struggling in having balance, okay, and twenty seven years of marriage. Very hard, right, I mean, I from what we all see with Kyle, she's always been highly anxious. She's going to North Carolina to do Friday the thirteenth, and she's missing whatever her husband is doing. And Kyle has built excuse me, Maricio, is like opening another agency in a foreign country. So just knowing the facts of their life is obviously going to be hard for anyone who has a marriage. You're going to know the rumors that like they've cheated, whichever one the rumors, those can even be hurtful, even if they were not true, but they've been swirling around forever. So what I think about it is that if I were Kyle and I wanted to keep the marriage together just for the fact that I don't want to fail, I could understand. Because she's got four children, she doesn't want to let people down. She doesn't want to let the bad guys win, the haters win. So like that's my thing, that's what I can see from here.

00:21:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, well, I mean, the cheating stories have been happening since. I mean, Brandy Glanville was a part of it with I mean, I think it was Yolanda Hadid right, Like, this has always been a thing and for me, where there is smoke, there is fire. Just with my own situation, you know, things that were being said and it was like I was like, there's no way people are making this up. People don't just make things up. There's a little bit of truth to every single thing. I believe that comes out right. Yes, So you see Kyle, and she's always been an incredible She shows up one hundred and ten percent with everything. Who wouldn't be anxious, I would be losing my mind totally. She shows up for her husband, She's there for her children, she has her own career, she's putting her life out there for however many years. What. I don't even know what season they're on.

00:22:45
Speaker 2: It's neither.

00:22:46
Speaker 1: I don't like, I really don't know.

00:22:48
Speaker 2: Or so Kyle is like sixteen or seventeen or so.

00:22:52
Speaker 1: I can understand if one day you hear all these things, maybe there's some truth to your husband doing whatever. I don't know. I'm just I'm just talking on a podcast. I have no idea. If she says, you know what, I didn't really get to experience much because I've known you and I've been with you for a really long freaking time. All I've ever known is marriage and babies since nineteen. I'm gonna go eat a cookie or two because I fucking deserve it. And I'd be like, yes, you do, because that shit kind of hits when you're.

00:23:22
Speaker 2: Drunk, and every girl like if you're not alone.

00:23:26
Speaker 1: Like if you if you don't know you're like, I've only been with men, and you're feeling like I want to experiment, have a couple tequilas and.

00:23:32
Speaker 2: Just try it out, or even like another guy.

00:23:35
Speaker 1: I think that we will see things play out, obviously, because I think they're in production right now.

00:23:40
Speaker 2: They're not.

00:23:40
Speaker 1: Oh they're done. Did cameras picked back up? So to cover this?

00:23:45
Speaker 2: Look at me? This is this is Andy Cohen here on the Give Them Lolla podcast. I also heard, and this is way more reliable, okay, is that the season will include this part of their lives. So I think they're doing a camera pickup and then the season will start.

00:24:03
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean Bravo was loving they were picking cameras back up. Everyone's life is just really shifting when.

00:24:09
Speaker 2: The cameras go down, right, yes, yeah.

00:24:13
Speaker 1: I want to know what your thoughts are. You texted me last night and you said that Kardashians just aren't hitting for you right now? What about it is not hitting? Because I have never watched Keeping Up with the Kardashians, never watched an episode of the Kardashians on Hulu until this season, which is season three. I've watched all of them.

00:24:31
Speaker 2: I thought you were like me and watched everything.

00:24:35
Speaker 1: No, only Bravo.

00:24:36
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'll give it to you in one shot, okay. Chloe and Courtney used to hug in a way that Courtney would jump and wrap her legs around Chloe. Yeah, and this season Kim ran up and wrapped her legs around Chloe instead, So I felt like it was like a fuck you to doing the thing that Chloe and Courtney had m So, I just don't like a third man out. I don't like the bickering over Dulce and Gabana. I don't like seeing her where all of them were Balenciaga. I don't like the greed over money, and I think it's just pushing to a higher level. And I don't like it.

00:25:23
Speaker 1: Like there's no realness anymore. It's like we're taking everything for not even the family. It's like I'm taking everything for myself.

00:25:31
Speaker 2: On Kim's part, well, have you seen the the exercising people that make fun of them working out? Have you seen that? It's like a.

00:25:38
Speaker 1: Viral trend TikTok.

00:25:39
Speaker 2: They're like they're like doing the repetitions okay, and it's like they're pretending to work out, but they're totally not even doing the I'll send it too as soon as I find it. So like that's very very fake. Kylie's not around that much, Kendle's not around that much. It's very fake. It's forced. I just I am a Kardashian day oner and I'm just not seeing anything good.

00:25:59
Speaker 1: You're not seeing anything good.

00:26:00
Speaker 2: No, it's like hate watching. I'm now hate watching, Yes.

00:26:05
Speaker 1: Where you're watching just to like pick it apart hate which is a lot of people will do that. I mean it's not great, but like I think everybody does it, really everybody does it. But I've noticed the same thing. And I also can't decide if they're on ozembic again just just they are, or if they have perfected their bbls.

00:26:28
Speaker 2: No, they are on ozembic. And that's not Alleged's hands.

00:26:32
Speaker 4: She could get me on one on one in basketball, I swear.

00:26:36
Speaker 1: I mean, can I tell you, I feel like Chloe's my most favorite. I love that she's talking about I don't watch anything the disconnect for her with surrogacy, and I think it's hitting for me. Not that I've ventured into getting a surrogate, but I have been looking at, you know, the route of a sperm donor, and those thoughts of just open conversations run through my mind all the time. And this is something I could talk to Gigi about Goldness up because she had a sperm donor. But I wonder because I did you know with the conception of ocean. There was a lot that went into it. It was a conversation. We had a game plan on my end, a lot of love and respect for my partner and wanting to create that family, and then the feeling of like having his baby, just the whole thing, you know, you experienced it Is it going to be different when I'm just picking someone off of a computer screen? You know? And it could it could not be. I think it just depends on who you are. I think it depends on the person. Kim had no issue that she's talked about with having a surrogate, but Chloe really struggled and I like really admired her for opening up about that. Well.

00:27:46
Speaker 2: Kim couldn't carry for sure, she had such complications, right, So there's such a big difference. And then with Chloe, I think that she had just gotten like her tummy tuck and all of her weight loss and she didn't want to like stop her life for that. And with you though, girl, like you're gonna find love and you're going to have a baby naturally, and you're not gonna need to go that route.

00:28:11
Speaker 1: Because that's a hard line for me.

00:28:13
Speaker 2: I'm jay, I know, but I don't. And you know, this is so weird, like this is such an important thing that I don't want what I'm saying to influence you in a way that's gonna be like tomorrow when you go spirm, like when we when if you start the process, I don't want you to feel uncomfortable to share that with me because okay, because I just I think you should talk to a lot of people. Yeah that maybe because you are only in the beginning of your thirties, okay, And maybe the people that go that route are not like maybe they're older and they're running out of time or their options are you know different, Okay, because the father, like there's no father in their life, right, And I think that role is really great if they can have that. And I'm sure that Easton can be a great father figure, you know, men, strong men in your life, right, be great father figures in Ocean's life. But I just I feel like the interest in getting the information is important for you to go and do all of that research and talk to all of our friends in our community, but also don't give up on love.

00:29:31
Speaker 1: But I think that I can do two things at once. I think I can say that there's two hard lines for me when it comes to a relationship, no cheating and no drug use. And there I like things when it comes to my child. I like things that are one hundred percent. I don't want to put me being able to be with my child one hundred percent of the time on someone else and their decisions. So I want to have another and I want to know that that baby is mine. Whether you fuck up or not doesn't matter, because you can never take this baby from me. But like I would love to create a very modern family with you. Now, I know that I wasn't expecting. I wasn't expecting my life to be this way. Things could obviously change. There could be a version where I have three baby daddies, and I'm totally fine with that.

00:30:23
Speaker 2: Same would I would be I just chance for everybody, because I know that if I was in your shoes, I would want to do exactly the same thing. I would want to make sure that I have control. I don't want to fuck with custody. I mean, even like our friend Jeff who cannot go trick or treating ever with you know, his daughter because the other guy won't share you know, holidays, I totally get it.

00:30:47
Speaker 1: It's a lot. I know it's a lot. So for me, it's like hardline. I just want my own baby, but I am so open to finding a partner. I just don't want to risk having to share my kid because those chances are high, because I cannot get over cheating and I certainly have no tolerance for drug use, you know, speaking of like the cheating and things you're caught up on oc right, Yes, okay, because people, a lot of people slid in. I just got caught up last night, A lot of people slid into the DMS talking about Gina being so invested in Jen's whole, like process i'll call it with getting with her new guy Ryan.

00:31:30
Speaker 2: Yes, shout out Gina. We love Gina.

00:31:33
Speaker 1: I love Gina, and I thought it was fucking hysterical when she talked about like you got this one who's never been in a movie ever and he's acting like she's been in one hundred and this one who's acting like you stole her oscars from her? What it's happening? The truth teller, I mess with Gina. She's a New Yorker.

00:31:49
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So first of all, the new girl Jen had, she's very messy, it's her first season. She doesn't know how to be on a show where she has a full on affair. But then it's not a physical affair. It was just we were just in the closet texting each other. And so now her boyfriend, the same guy that she left her husband for, right, is a cheater all over oc right?

00:32:17
Speaker 1: Correct, So tried to sleep with Tamra.

00:32:20
Speaker 2: Right and Tama's friend. And I mean, so what's the question.

00:32:25
Speaker 1: The question is do you feel like Gina's too invested in Jen's like mess? Like why is she? Like people are asking this, why is she taking it to heart? And I'm like, well as somebody who has experienced things like that, and just like overall deceit. I feel like if someone stepped in and did that, I would be like, pump the brakes. I don't know that you and I are in alignment.

00:32:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, And Gina was a woman with three kids under the age of five mm hm, and her dirty ass husband was driving to his job and cheating on her. So she is now triggered to be around a cheating topic. So she is totally allowed to have her feelings in her opinion about this.

00:33:07
Speaker 1: I fully agree. Yeah, And Jen said when they were like at the Dude Ranch or whatever. She goes, it's not my job to make you feel okay about it, and that's absolutely true. But it's not Gina's job to accept you as a human being. She's fully capable and able and actually should look at you as like kind of a bottom feeder. Bro.

00:33:28
Speaker 2: Jana is so deep in it right now. She doesn't even know what's happening to her. She's shooting a show, she's still new in the relationship. She's not sure if he's cheating or not, and she's not sure how to get her story straight or keep it straight. You mean Jen, Jen, Jen.

00:33:42
Speaker 1: Not Gina. I was like, wait, Gina's man, hold up, no, no, no, Jen, a rescue mission on Gin. I'm not with this, Like she seemed like a good dude, Jen.

00:33:52
Speaker 2: Jen doesn't know what is happening to her. It's her first season on a TV show. While she is figuring out how to reveal this story, and every time she tells the story it changes a little bit and people are calling her out on it.

00:34:07
Speaker 1: Do you think that TAM's coming into hot No?

00:34:10
Speaker 2: I think Tama is doing what Tamara should do.

00:34:12
Speaker 1: You know what's really interesting, and you'll get this is all of the people who watch shows shows like ours, and they always throw so much hate on the person who's making the season watchable. They're like, she's coming into hot. It's like, well, if she was not, you'd get pissed that no one's calling this gen girl out and you turn your TV.

00:34:35
Speaker 2: Off totally, and you would have ten episodes in a reason exactly.

00:34:39
Speaker 1: So, I don't think TAM's coming into hot, and I'm like thinking I stuck with OC even through the rough patch of like no Gun Wilson and no Tama Judge, right.

00:34:49
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the thing with having Heather Dubrow, who I'm not really naturally attracted to as a fan, having her come back last season, it didn't quite hit as hard and now as having Tamra and her and like all the og like the girls like Emily and Gina are becoming og ish and Shannon, you know, I.

00:35:11
Speaker 1: So agree with you because for so long I was like, Emily and Gina have been on for so long and why do they feel like their brand new faces on my TV? And I love them, like I have always messled with them, but I've just never gotten the feeling of like a familiar face on my TV. I'm invested.

00:35:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, totally agree.

00:35:29
Speaker 1: Every season that they appear, it's always almost like a reboot of like, Okay, we're getting reinvested.

00:35:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a good cast.

00:35:36
Speaker 1: Now now we're like back to normal.

00:35:38
Speaker 2: We're back. And if they bring Vicki back, that'll be probably really good too. I mean, I don't know she's coming this.

00:35:44
Speaker 1: She makes like an I think she like pops in and then I think we're gonna see her a lot, like mid season. Yeah, so I'm just getting Easton into Bravo. I told her to see I'm.

00:35:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, he already said he's never seen a Kardashian upisode and men just watch Bravo when they're like trying to get with the girl in the beginning.

00:36:05
Speaker 4: I've seen the rage. The rage that's about all the kardash Oh my.

00:36:11
Speaker 2: God, no, he's sting.

00:36:13
Speaker 1: You're a savage and I love you. Okay, I do this at the end of the show. Okay, what is your ache of the week and what is your relief of the week.

00:36:24
Speaker 2: The relief is always going to be Shams, right, because.

00:36:28
Speaker 1: Shams is her little boy. How old is he?

00:36:30
Speaker 2: Now he just turned for it.

00:36:31
Speaker 4: He just turned for it.

00:36:32
Speaker 1: And he's so handsome. Oh my gosh, he's gorgeous. There is no he's so steinking cute, cut, he's got a full head of hair.

00:36:45
Speaker 4: I know, he's gorgeous.

00:36:48
Speaker 1: And Shams was her dad's name, sham so shamps.

00:36:53
Speaker 2: My my son is named after my dad and my husband's mother. Okay, and yes, it's a Persian name, Shampsha.

00:37:03
Speaker 1: Wait is it s h A M s? Yes?

00:37:05
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you? How did you even pull that one out?

00:37:08
Speaker 1: I mean, that's well, I thought you were saying shamps for a sec.

00:37:11
Speaker 2: Is it pronounced That's how it's It sounds like the Champagne, but that's the Persian way of pronouncing it.

00:37:17
Speaker 1: Wow, I just learned something new. So it's pronounced shamps. Oh, I'm so sorry. I've been saying shams for so long.

00:37:23
Speaker 2: Also been saying it right. It's like my name. It's like I'm MJ, I'm Mersed, I'm Mercedes.

00:37:29
Speaker 1: It's like three, what's your ache of the week?

00:37:36
Speaker 2: So you know, yeah, I you know, I texted you just having a bad day last week, So I'm gonna say that's still this week.

00:37:48
Speaker 1: In a way, what happened exactly.

00:37:51
Speaker 2: This is the thing. I had opened scrow and stayed in town and worked through the Fourth of July extravaganza that was like Fourth of July was on a Wednesday, but people started leaving Toalm five days before on Friday and very weird. Yeah, and I was like, no, I have an appointment on Saturday and Tuesday, and dah da da. Like I stayed but much like I have seen, like I've seen you and Sheena when I met home on a Sunday night, scrolling through my phone and I'll see like, oh my god, look Shina and Lala were in Palm Springs with the babies. Like I could have gone, and I could have taken shams and hung out, you know, with you guys and like partaken in something that's healthy for a working mom. But that is the gist of this story. I had made the conscious choice, as I have been, to be focused on my career and being a mother. Okay, okay, I don't have a lot of balance in any other area of my life. That is why I will try to communicate with someone like if I reach out to you, it is to connect with something either I see you doing to like give love, acknowledge, connect, say hi. And when I went on Jeff's show, it was the day after the fourth of July. Okay, that morning, I it's so, it's the fifth of July, and he starts talking about partying on the yacht in Newport and was a Pelican resort, and then we went to to like Kelly Dodds and then we went to whatever, and they were like talking about it, and I was like, I am bursting with jealousy or I was like, I'm saying it with a smile, but I was like, I'm I'm so mad that I missed out on this stuff. But it was a fucking joke, Like I was just saying it for like to if anything, like to embellish, like I am so mad at you Easton. I cannot believe you didn't pick me up on your way to La Las this weekend. Right, yeah right, yeah right, yes, so the way I then I did an after show, so it was two hours of live radio, and they the Karens came out and so many that I had, like people that I don't normally hear from reaching out to me saying like I heard like the radio and you sounded great. Like you, I don't know what's happening. I hope you're okay, Like you're always invited, Da da da. And I was like, I know, I'm always invited, and I have no problem inviting myself. But it was like the equivalent of a stand up comedian being told that they're not funny because I went out, I did my thing on the radio, and then I got dragged and told you should be happy to be at home with your kid and your husband, like you should learn to like love that life.

00:40:42
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you should shame more sham Like you should just be grateful. Yeah, you got to stay home with It's like, how about I can sit here and be like, you know what, loved being with my man and my kid, but kind of sucked not being invited on the freaking yacht with my man and my kid. Kind of sucked not being in Palms Springs when I could have been with my friends and their kids. You are totally allowed to say that, And it bothers me that people shame women when they're like, you know what, I wasn't that happy just doing that, right, So it wasn't that I wasn't happy. It's like people shaming working moms that you but you should want to be home with your kid? What do you mean? And it's like it's I want to be a I'm not fulfilled. Just what if you're fulfilled staying at home and being with your kid all the time, that is amazing for you. I would never knock you for doing that, So please don't knock me if my path and like what fulfills me looks a little bit different, especially when all I'm talking about was I wanted to be out of the fucking house on the fourth of July.

00:41:39
Speaker 2: Bro, I am exactly like I, if anything, have been so focused that I am not making enough choices for myself. And it was just so like such a sucker punch. It was so weird, and I was like, Okay, what is the reason for this to happen and find like what it is, but like, yeah, not me down. And I reached out to you and it was like one of it all, yeah you fucking did okay, And then like.

00:42:08
Speaker 1: I just think I didn't know the depths of it. You just said that it was like a bad, bad time.

00:42:13
Speaker 2: I don't even know why I reached out to you, but I think I just felt like she's a good one to reach out to. Yeah, Like, I mean I always have every intention to like stay in touch with your sister on the regular and we and I think we do a pretty decent job of it. It's just like you said, when my life is very multifaceted, Like I feel like I am if I decided that I was gonna I was getting ready today and I was like, oh my god, I'm gonna see Laala. This is the first time I haven't done a top knot in four weeks straight, Like I've been doing a top knot for everything, like pulling it up and rush. Then it's like you pull up your top knot and you're like, when was the last time I even just wore my hair down? And like how things like that can feel good? Like it's right, it's like all these things, so the women should not be coming for each other like that. It should have been like a it's crazy.

00:43:05
Speaker 1: I feel you, it's crazy. I look at my comments and I'm like, wow, it's all women like just slamming me. I cannot imagine like getting onto a woman's page and just ripping her anyone totally right.

00:43:19
Speaker 2: And if you needed like because you are like right now. You're all work right, but you have these beautiful blessings around you, Jessica Easton, your mom, and let's say whoever else. But for me, I don't have a lot of that I have. I don't have like a lot of community. I'm not saying that I don't have any because I'm sure I'm gonna leave here and I'm gonna be feeling really badly about my friends and family who are around me on a regular basis. So I'm not trying to like not appreciate that, but like, listen to the ladies that are listening. If you feel like somebody needs a little something, pick up the phone and say, hey, do you want to come with us? Or you're busting your ass. You're working so hard, You're doing such a great job because I barely drink alcohol. I'm always on a diet. I've kept thirty pounds off naturally without any ozempics. I'm thank you forty five every morning at six o'clock. Then I'm showing houses and I'm coming home and I'm seeing the kid, and I'm like, so, it's like the last thing that you want to hear is someone trying to find fault when in fact, it should be the opposite, Like, bitch, you need to get out more. The part of your life that's not balanced is getting drunk, right, Like you actually need to get drunk, you know what I mean?

00:44:43
Speaker 1: Like that when we go. Honestly, Sheen and I, we're the only crazy ones that were like one hundred and fifteen degree weather. Let's head to the desert. I will absolutely invite you. You can come, you can decide to pass, take a rain check. I got you.

00:44:57
Speaker 2: Totally love that and yeah, so that was on the podcast. You have to come now, thank you. I'm going to you. Guys are gonna shams is going to be flirting with your daughters.

00:45:10
Speaker 1: Good. I'm trying to marry around. I'm just kidding.

00:45:13
Speaker 2: We'll do a little down.

00:45:15
Speaker 1: I'm like, good men are hard to come by. We got to start looking now. It's like preschool, like you start when they're in the womb. Yes, getting into preschools, right, I guess, oh it does.

00:45:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, is ocean in any kind.

00:45:28
Speaker 1: Of Not yet. I'm going to wait another year with right now.

00:45:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep.

00:45:33
Speaker 1: And we have like a pretty free, easy day and we're going to go swim and just like do whatever. I guess I don't know, t T. What was your your ache and relief of the week.

00:45:43
Speaker 3: My ache of the week was it wasn't the night, wasn't an ache, but my ears of Emo night.

00:45:50
Speaker 4: Oh there wasn't a quiet room.

00:45:53
Speaker 1: No, my ears definitely worth bleeding, I think, yeah.

00:45:56
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm gonna go into the room, this room and hopefully it's quiet. And then there was just another DJ just banging something in there.

00:46:02
Speaker 4: I was like, good God, but that was the eight because they're still bleeding.

00:46:06
Speaker 3: But the relief of the week was I don't know if you know, but I sat on a couch and wrecked my tailbone.

00:46:13
Speaker 2: I did hear that.

00:46:14
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I was walking.

00:46:16
Speaker 3: Outside playing with Ocean, playing with Ocean because she was watering plants, and I slipped and I did the splits and it was a good hurt, but like it was a good, good hurt, and so I almost fell.

00:46:29
Speaker 4: And now the relief is my my ass.

00:46:32
Speaker 1: Is good, and he was like, oh wait anymore.

00:46:42
Speaker 4: It was one of just needed a good stretch.

00:46:44
Speaker 1: A good stretch. My ache and relief are one and the same threads, and and elon possibly taking it away from this. I'm very upset. It is such a positive, happy based on threads that I wish that there was like an entering process where it's like, have you ever trolled anyone in your life, specifically Lola Kent. If the answer is yes, you cannot come on too threads because everyone is so happy. Like today I posted it's Monday, Guess I'm gonna go be dope as shit again, and everyone was like, you go go, I.

00:47:20
Speaker 2: Fucking love that.

00:47:22
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tweet it.

00:47:24
Speaker 2: I know no, because that's where the cos that's where they comes.

00:47:29
Speaker 1: That's why I got rid of Twitter and got Instagram. Only can Elon and Zuckerberg just put their dicks away. Let's not measure, Let's just create a positive space and like everyone, you guys can go along, keep being billionaires, just like let us be happy on threads.

00:47:44
Speaker 2: He's gonna he's gonna take it away.

00:47:47
Speaker 1: He filed a lawsuit saying that a season desist a seasoned assist, basically saying that everyone who was let go from Twitter when he purchased it, Zuckerberg then took on and like stole their data or something. Oh, which I probably would be filing the same sort of thing. I'd be like, no, no, no, I see you, Like, I just want to be happy on threads for a while, just like, let it last a little longer.

00:48:11
Speaker 4: I mean the data.

00:48:12
Speaker 3: Now, if it gets taken away, they'll rename it and open something up without the data.

00:48:15
Speaker 4: But now they have the data.

00:48:17
Speaker 1: Okay, great, love it.

00:48:18
Speaker 2: But he took it.

00:48:20
Speaker 4: So when he took the.

00:48:22
Speaker 2: Check marks away from Twitter that that was really douchey.

00:48:25
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, no one has check marks anymore.

00:48:27
Speaker 2: Right, you have to pay for it now.

00:48:30
Speaker 4: For anything.

00:48:31
Speaker 2: Imagine you Yeah, but imagine you had a blue check mark on Twitter and now they take it and they want you to pay for it to keep it every month.

00:48:39
Speaker 1: I'm on that is a joke, all right, enough already, So there we go. I had the best time with you, MJ. This was like lit as Easton. Always a pleasure see at the car.

00:48:50
Speaker 4: Fun I always see in the car.

00:48:54
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening to another episode of the Give Them Lalla podcast, and I will catch you next week.