Conway The Machine on Griselda, Benny The Butcher, Jay-Z & NEW ALBUM on the way

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Speaker 1: This guy. He's very selectful with the artist to sit on the couch. He got a problem. He turns down guys this big and your name came up and in one second he was like, yo, one hundred percent, we need to This is Joeah Dawn on my Mafia ship. You know what it is, your boy, Jada, This is the Joe and Jada Show. Every show is exclusive, every show is iconic. Today we like to welcome our guests. My brother one third of Griselda, one hundred percent of drum work east side of Buffalo's own Conway. The machine makes some noise. What what up? What up? What up? Man? What up? Man? My brother was good life man, life is good man, no doubt appreciate it. I've seen you've been over the water crushing them crowds doing you know what I mean, getting them bags, doing what we do. I was that it was in some places I never even I thought I've been everywhere. When you're looking at something, shows like Damn Widdy congering Land for no question. Shit man, that shit is. That shit is unbelievable. Man. Like the way that the way that they love hip hop.

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Speaker 2: Man, they tapped into the culture over there is this, you know what I mean, It's overwhelming, man, the love I felt out there, like I was on out in Columbia, I was on an Argentina, I was out in fucking Georgia. I was everywhere like like you said, like I was touching I was touching Land. I I ain't never thought i'd be and I ain't. I ain't think they can they understand like when I when I'm bringing to the table with my lyrics.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so for for.

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Speaker 2: The motherfuckers to be able to barely speak English and wrapping my ship word for word, dog It's a different type of feeling.

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Speaker 1: You know, you do you do my cloth out cloth for music? So I follow you, I follow you griseled in a whole crew. I could tell you like stages, you like performing, Yeah, yeah, that's my favor element.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, watching like dog Man, watching DMX, watching Boston.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Definitely too on the top.

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Speaker 2: Of saying, you know, I could just tell like they put a lot of emphasis in the in the stage performance part of it more than just like the pend you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And I just.

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Speaker 2: Like to go out there and just have like an outer body experience just just leave it all on the stage world.

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Speaker 1: How for the people that don't know, how did Grisel? How y'all did did somebody meet in jail? Was it y'all grew up? How y'all? How did y'all even link up? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Ships, it says the beginning like since it says the beginning like niggas, So it's like, you know what I mean. It started with like me Wes Benny and machine Gun Black rest in peace, you know what I'm saying. Then my man cut her, my man cutter locked up right now. But he you know what I'm saying, he started rapping the shit with us. But this is well, when we was older, like you know what I'm saying, they.

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Speaker 1: Was a little younger than me. I was always like the rapping, like I've been battle rapping and fucking niggas up since, like I was twelve years old, thirteen years old in the city, just just going crazy on whoever was was that guy at the time. They had to see me, So that started with that.

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Speaker 2: And you know, them boys just seeing me watching me, you know what I'm saying, saying, how I get busy. It just turned into like yo, so crazy and Dan you know what I'm saying, Like Benny just started becoming a monster himself, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And shit, just you know, man, we grew like that. That shit grew like that. Well it ain't really like get good.

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Speaker 2: Ain't really take it to like the business side or really started trying to get sere it till like after I got shot, you know what I'm saying. Once I got shot, and like everybody was home, like because niggas will never really be home from jail at the same science too, so like sh ain't gonna be locked up, Benny'll be home, Benny would be locked up West locked up.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was we weren't really never all on the streets at the same time until after I got shot, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And then after I got shot, it was just like nah, bro, let's just you're going to be the one to take us there go crazy, just put everything and then get to get you stirdy, you know what I'm saying. The question I have is I've been to Buffalo. Yeah, you know, he's still got the Bronx crackheads in Buffalo. Wondered where the crackheads went in Buffalo. You know, it's just crazy Bronx crackheads is in Buffalo, right, and I've been there. Dang, it's so hard to get out of Buffalo. Ye, So to explain to everybody out there, you from upstate New York, that's like a six seven hour drive from the boroughs, Right, how did you have hope? Not only that, how did you really get on from Buffalo? And then the hope ko got on too? Like how did you think you can make it from Buffalo? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And no, like nobody think they gonna make it and nothing like foot niggas, nothing they gonna make it to the league. Niggas gonna be niggas. You know what I'm saying. Like it's cracked, and that's it. You feel me the streets, that's it.

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Speaker 1: You feel me in.

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Speaker 2: But I always had the mind state dog just the white people hear me, I'm out of here because I just.

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Speaker 1: Always feeling I ain't it ain't too many niggas like a fuck with me. And that was way back then, Like you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Ninety six, ninety seven, ninety nine, two thousand, you know what I'm saying, And I think it ain't happened for me, for us, I think that was a blessing in the sky though, you know what I'm saying, because we was blessed with the.

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Speaker 1: Journey. We was able to learn.

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Speaker 2: We was able to watch errors, We was able to study film, watch y'all game tape.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, See how y'all doing it?

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Speaker 2: Like you said, Like I was saying, like I'm watching Bust the Rhymes perform, watching DMX go crazy from the fifty thousand. You know what I'm saying, I'm able to see that shit and learning able to take little elements from everything, and it sharpened my blade till it was time, you know, man. But it's definitely to answer your question, man, it's tough, you know what I mean. I don't really know how we did it, man, It's just I think it was just time, you know what I'm saying, Like he just got Like I said, we got all shit in the right people to the right people, man, and it's just like the bus they started just talking, you know what I mean. But we like we was getting so we was just on our bullshit, like we ain't want to even sign no days and none of that. We ain't want to fuck with nobody. We were just laying nobody coming to fuck with us. Fucking were doing our own shit. We ain't really signing, but we shit just start getting too crazy, like we the hoodies and shit flying off the table, the CDs. We can't sell the vinyls selling for like a thousand dollars, Like somebody will buy the vinyl for for fifty this shit it's on eBay or something for like twelve hundred. Were looking at this ship like we gained mirrors painting in Japan and and shit Paris. It's like this shit getting too crazy. We need we need management now, you know what I'm saying. At least gets management. And you know what I'm saying, that's how we met Paul and all that. But that's how we really got our introduction in the game, just hustling and making our ship boutique, like you know what I mean. It was like we was getting into this stream era. This was in the beginning of that. We like went against that, like fuck that, you gotta come see me.

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Speaker 1: We get that. Yeah, you can only get it.

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Speaker 2: It's only one hundred and eighty seven of these, you know, we having a one A seven on the back of the hoodies.

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Speaker 1: So the hoodies is getting marked up resale.

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Speaker 2: They light took this formula from like the sneaker game took that same formula.

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Speaker 1: That ship man we hear today. Man, you know what I'm saying. So went from a mission impossible to get signed to something like that in Buffalo. Once y'all got popping the whole Grisella, they was going out there trying to sign your cousins. Everybody they out there, they've been pulling up, they've been they've been pulling up because you know, I'm good friends with bone Thug. They from Cleveland. That's a little further to get on the Buffalo. And when they started popping, they signed every cousin in Cleveland they ever heard, they liked, didn't like. You know, this industry is the industry. They just pull up once they know, like Warren g he got snatched from under. He's doctor Dre's stepbrother. They went out there and Leo Cohen went to Compton. You know that's what they do. Well, came to the School street c X to the Jets. He wasn't scared, but you gotta get it popping. Though. One thing I love about you guys. First of all, you guys get it right. Everybody don't get it. And the one thing I loved about you guys is, you know, I come from digging in the crace. I come from the underground boom bat right. But what I love about yas y'all always invested in your fashion, in your fly. That was a big difference Merge too. They took merg to theeduct if they merged to a rocket ship and took that ship. But my thing is fashion, right, So I'm looking at y'all. Y'all sound beats and bombs, you know, that's where we come from, That's where we started. And then but you guys was like throwing that ship on and all that, And now I could go to an underground concert today. Not for nothing that you ain't wearing. They wearing whatever you gave him free death Jam coming out now or something. They don't give a fuck, right, And so but these guys got it. They were like, Okay, we're gonna be underground superstars. We're gonna throw that ship on it. Who really started that up? That's just what it was.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that was really the kind of the nature of it in a sense, like but I think that's why too, Like you know, our music and ship, like the young young boys and shit kind of fuck with us and and like tapped into our ship too, because we able to able to relate to us, you know what I'm saying, Like we we was outside doing that. We was the niggas who was having having the Apa rexs and ship on, giving them, you know what I'm saying, a little five dollars to go to the store signing fun me. So they looked up to us and stuff, and I think it just kind of translates worldwide, like like looking at them niggas, cause shit, I ain't I ain't that young. You fuel me so young niggas tap in and fuck with me and look at to me like yo, what up?

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Speaker 1: Big road type ship? What up?

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Speaker 2: So you know we'd be having that ship on and we be talking that ship too. That's well relevant, But over them them same type of I mean, I got conducted in the Cut, I got Darrener and the Cut Alchemists.

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Speaker 1: I needed darn too, man, I need a couple of darrenes man daring to get that man right, hell right, Diesel. So many influences. You work with a lot of legends. I mean that that's your show tested. How you get busy. You get a lot of calls from us for me, styles can dudes that really do music with substance. How you feel about that because you don't want to work with some of these garbage? Now, you know?

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Speaker 2: For me, that's to me, that's the fucking that's the award, you know what I mean, that's the to get get my flowers from the MC's and I respect looking at that.

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Speaker 1: Like at the end of the day, I look at myself. I'm an MC.

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Speaker 2: I'm true to this hip hop, this MCing element of it. Everything else, Like I don't really you know what I'm saying. I'm MC first for me, So it's like for me to just you know, get that, get that love, get that embraced.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: For niggas like Buster from the Chef, you know what I mean, Starks and them niggas, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: From y'all what it is.

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Speaker 2: I remember we had our first show ever. We ain't never sell a record or nothing. We did our first first show.

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Speaker 1: He was on tour.

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Speaker 2: We did it that on I think Webster All. First stop was in New York City and wester Hall. Man I came to the show with Prodigy, like Prodigy was with us hanging all day.

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Speaker 1: Ship y'all pulled up, you know what I'm saying. Ray pulled up and performed like hell is done. That ship was wal l It was like a real hell. I don't think it was crazy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's been no show like that in New York City that that feel was tight and intimate. Since that s Obs got me that that on wester All ship, I've been to a lot of ship's just the love like it was graffiti and it on the wall. I know it was all type of little box cutters and pocket rockers in there. It was well twelve pocket rockers in there, you know what I mean, A couple of butter Knice.

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Speaker 1: A lot of MC's that were the greatest in the game. Didn't know how to pick beats. You guys know how to pick beasts. I won't say their names because the living legends you're not gonna say, don't do that already know that ain't go. But there's some legendary artists. When people ask me, you don't watch such and such a blow. Homeboy was the nicest this and this and that. But when you heard they beat selection, you know, just now we was just vibing to your ship. You play like five in the row. All them beats feel like they shooting heir on on the street. You know, the back room usual going down all of them. I don't know the sixties.

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Speaker 2: Now I feel like that ship come from like you know what I mean, having access sometimes when you might have got no access to no fire. You know what I mean, You're making the best of what you what you what you got in front of you.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It's like I don't been in it in the city in times like that where the beast was, you know what I mean? Yeah, damn. And we got darrenjer You know what I'm saying. He was in house like I'm sleeping on a nigga couch, you feel me, And I'm getting asked that he making these ships on the spot.

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Speaker 1: Now we got out, We.

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Speaker 2: Got conductors and you know what I mean, different different niggas, Like it's just the access.

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Speaker 1: We got the resource.

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Speaker 2: Now, you know what I'm saying, Can I can ahead, Swiss, I can ahead different niggas and get I got the resource.

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Speaker 1: Now you know what I'm saying, but as far as like you know, that's what I put it.

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Speaker 2: As to, like you know what you said, my legends is said you might not have you know what I'm meaning to reach to get no nothing crazy And then you want to you need the money or you're trying to push something out so bad, like fuck it. I'm just going I'm gonna picture saying how this ship that I got right here?

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Speaker 1: Fuck it? You know what I mean? The twelve these twelve? What's your creative process? I know you need some zob yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just smoking me one you feel me? You know a lot of a lot of a lot of reposodo.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, some type of some type of sports, you know what I mean, presentation on the screen and on mute and share some beats crazy and why myself like I just me and the engineer maybe like one of my mans like that shit, I don't really I don't need a party, yeah, and they probably I take everybody to work with me to day.

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Speaker 1: I do what I see. I got a sweep first yeah that yeah, same ship like you, but I gotta sweep at the sweep sweet Actually sweep. No, it's this. It's just like a like a full here. I gotta sweep it ain't even dirty, it's not even nothing on the floor. But you gotta sweet first before you go as the last team. Yeah, I gotta sweep. Mm hmm, I'm sweeping it. I'm sweeping something negativity. You right, you right at home or you right right at the studio, every both like a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of us that ship don't even I don't even be hitting no pad. A lot of that ship off the top. I mean, I ain't really free styling stick it up.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking of it.

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Speaker 2: I'm giving a thought smoked me one or two, and then I'm like, all right, I might taking me in nap, saying wake up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I am ready low me up, and then I just go like that. So a lot of that ship on that album I hadn't even wrote.

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Speaker 2: I ain't write that, write that down. I'm writing the lyrics down now because you know, I like, yo, I need the lyrics. I need the lyrics.

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Speaker 1: So I gotta go back and listen and ship like damn, what the fuck I said? You know, man, is there a difference from being high writing lyrics or being sober for me. Nah, for me, now, you know what I'm saying. How people say they gotta be hot to write, do you think it's a difference, just puts me into better comfortable I mean sometimes you don't need for me, it's really the beat. Yes, if the beat is super is fucking incredible. I don't need nothing, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, because I used to write, and then, you know, towards my latest stage in my career, it's more like, let me go in the studio, throw that beat on. I don't even want to hear it. Before that, then it's just yeah, I'm just flowing this ship. Like you know. They asked me one time, and this guy was incredible. I was overseas on one of them tours as some journalists from some fucking country out there. He said, man, what's the process of writing? And I explained to him debt. Once they put a fire beat on, it's like remember when we was in kindergarten and all that, and they would make them books that the fucking trees pop out and all that. Yeah, the rhymes just pop out. He was looking at me like I was crazy, but I realized I was sounded crazy, but I was explaining it to him. But that's how I really worked. When they throw the beat on, you know, to me to be telling me what to say, whether good or bad, happy, sad, party, whatever, the beat always tell me what to say. That's how it is for me. For me too, I need that beat and they need to be in a gud space. That beat.

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Speaker 2: They'll wake me up on my sleep. I don't care what fuck, what kind of states something is that be crazy. I'm gonna stop with my try. Like I did a song going on my last shit, I was leaving the stoody. It was like six thirty in the morning. I've been in, out and out of the day like four ships.

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Speaker 1: I'm drunk. I'm all, I'm on my way, I'm ready to go to sleep. I'm leaving.

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Speaker 2: So the producer came in. I ain't never worked with this producer or nothing. He just plugging his shit up while he cleaning the jointy. That's take a place, and I'm like, I stopped at the door, like, yo, what's that?

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Speaker 1: No? I had that and ended again on my album was crazy. Was crazy. That's how it works with music, And you know, they give us the least credit they know for it being on art form. But it's it's art. When you hear something that measurement rises you, you gotta have it, you know what I mean? I tell you all the time, this is how we do. It's Friday night and I'm doing the fun. You go to a party, you throw that ship? Are you rocking? I just told Test the last time you play that all the time, man, I mean I just told Test movie go DJ in my house for my birthday. I said, Yo, bro strictly hallm. I want to feel like I want to thank you. I want I do not play. I need that vibe because for some reason, I'm telling Chris today, right, I say how they was killing dudes in that time, right, like when you if you think about when they been the music I'm just talking about you know, you know, wait your time young man or mama used to and you and the club and the beautiful woman that death they dancing. I'm not talking about hip hop. How do they get the clapping sas own money? Dudes was clapping over their girls this this like if you think about that time, right, that's it.

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Speaker 3: Then then then you're like, how the hell these guys shoot the place up?

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Speaker 1: Like what I heard? Yeah, they need they old money that somebody fuck with somebody girl, somebody, you know, and so they got the clapping. But you know that ship make me happy? You know what makes you happy? Brother? Maybe fucking with my dog man go down.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Fucking with my little bulldog, my little French bulldog man.

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Speaker 2: Other than that, being left alone, Yeah, no phone or phone. All he's telling I find my happiness doing that. Show me playing a little two k or something or in the studio. What's an adulte beat makes me happy?

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Speaker 1: That's the right fact. What's going on with drum work? Were getting to it? Man? I got you know Skis? Why Jay Skis? We put him out. We started him in like twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, but he just did another He dropped like two ships this year. He tour, He did a tour this year. I got a sk or Man Kendricks, I got a couple of shooters, Mandy. You know that's beautiful. We're doing news. We got this album of compilation like an arm with all of us, don't you know what I'm saying. Put that shit out this ship too broadly. You know it's beautiful that people don't understand. Is like when God give you the opportunity to be the first to get on and live your dream about and then you go back and say, all right, I'm ship with you. Yep, you know what I'm saying. There's nothing like that putting somebody on, helping them see their vision go through it. And uh, that's very commendable because you could just be thinking about yourself. You know, I could think of phenomenal artists that we love to death that never put nobody on, meaning rack wise, you know. So when you go out your way to do that, you know, we all get what shortcomings or we all try to help certain people that went bad, you know what I'm saying. But for the most part, that's a beautiful thing to ship your journey and your dream with some up and coming artists. It is that is you know what I mean, Especially for me, like because I was always a type of person I don't really like I don't mesh well with everybody, Like I don't really hang around a lot of people. I don't keep a lot of I keep a small circle. So you know what I mean for me, even you know what I mean, just open up pause like that, like feel me and let people just come come fuck with me, you know what I mean, Jump in the back seat.

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Speaker 2: Man, let's let's ride up there together. It is actually inspiring for.

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Speaker 1: Me, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's actually doing more for me than them. You know what i mean, because I'm getting out of my my, my old self, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Man, just a short, temperate, uh hot headed type dude. I'm just more patient with things now and I know how to calm myself down. I'll get upset and stuff. So that's why I like to be alone, like the isolation, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: What you got going any more? Touring? What's going on? You got you going back out?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm at the tour. I'm at the tour of the States starting in November. I'm thinking at the show at the end of October, though.

00:24:22
Speaker 1: Out here I'm not sure. But yeah, I'm going back on that road. You know. I stay on that road, no doubt. Touching the people. Yeah, I like to man, I like to be on that stage.

00:24:31
Speaker 2: And that's you know, fucking with my fans, man, you know, taking them pictures and signing thirty vinyls.

00:24:39
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Wait, niggas with the vinyls thing. Got apple tags on niggas. That's a fact. You know, where are you at them?

00:24:47
Speaker 2: Niggas are like thirty hours, so they're like, Noah, I got the mall machine, h man. But yeah, I'm going back on roll, going back over overseas and shit, I got some couple of shows.

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Speaker 1: On the green. You know what I'm saying. Fire, I'm about Mongolia. You ever been to Mongolia? That's when you know crack trying to get the bag. Well, he go to Mongolia. I had a dude in jail with me, a white boy. You know, it's real ratio in jail, but I put him down with our cool Nobody wanted them, but I seen it. I seen the strength of him. I used to call him Hong Kong's Mongolia Man. So one day he comes up to me. A month later, he says, hey, boss, I said, what's up? He said, I just realized Hong Kong and Mongolia is two different places. I said, I don't give a fuck. We lucky. I gave you a nickname, all the fuck, Hong Kong's Monolian. I'm going to Mongolia. That ship. That's a trip on that show. Who's on there with her bag is on the show? Who are you going there with? Superior? If you hear fat Joe, you know I hate the flyp you'll be firing Mongolia. Is this sh ship like eight hours after China or something? Wow, ship, it's a mission. I gotta go to Dubai. From Dubai to China, then Monk Golden stop in Dubai. Do I pick up a couple of you know, bags? And then you know what's up? Man? You know what's going on. You know what I'm saying. But you know that's that goalie man that ship far as fuck. We're gonna see what it is. Where you've been at where the fans was the craziest about y'all? Everywhere niggash Man. Probably the way you didn't probably probably in Greece probably, Uh, South America. South America is Daisy, It was crazy, bro.

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Speaker 2: South America is it's a whole It's electricity, man, it's a whole different type of energy.

00:26:51
Speaker 3: Sh sh insane. All the shoulders shows. The line was around two blocks. I got promoter. Your promoter was.

00:27:03
Speaker 1: I didn't do so good. Yeah, I'm gonna keep it rid. That's one of the only places I ain't do good. Look, I sell my ship out all the time. Boy, I went to South America. That ship was light work. But I've seen Wu Tang go out there and that'sh it wasmonios.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, damn, I must have went with a whack promoter. No, that was crazy when promoter, Yeah, we need that guy. That was insanity out there and do wow whoa shot? The video out there and bo Guitar ship man were just out there. That's ex videos in bol Guitar. You're doing ship well.

00:27:44
Speaker 1: The danger element was was definitely profound though in and out her you got that shot. Let's get out of there and go go.

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Speaker 4: Contels over there abducting people in all type bol guitar. His name in Deecay, in Glee Kate, you know in gaygate Gon.

00:28:07
Speaker 1: Do you want me to tell a story? Do you want me to tell a story? I got one to hear me. So they paid me wow money to go to Columbia, like wow money, right, and they did like stadiums and they were empty. They had a little five hundred thousand people. Shit supposed to have ten fifteen thousand people. I walk in after the second show in the hotel and fly hotels. This guy flew the bag and I see his workers just looking like man nervous and shit, you know, people who are being nice to me and all that. And he was over there talking to him like this. I walked over, send my wife upstairs. I wanted my wife. I was like, Yo, what's up, buppy? He said, what's up? I would like to take at a bet with nails in it and put it in your ass, turn it inside, said far the rock. So I'm like, take a back with nails and turn it in your ass. I want to hang you upside down? And did he start talking all this in Colombia? Right, So I get it. He lost a super bad with just what he paid me. Then he had to rent stadiums. He thought Fat Joe was gonna be paying pneumonium and ship was light work, right, So he talking crazy Tony Montana shit. But I tell him when he finished, I say, yo, you know what, man, you missed your calling. You should be in Hollywood writing them scripts because the ship you saying, no, I'm not gonna lie shit phenomena like you got that ship, you know, But me, I don't give a fuck. I'm not really scared of you, ma man. So it is what it is. You should stop all getting with your think. I go upstairs. The next day we go to medi Ying. My daughter grew up with a little girl since they was in kindergarten. Her father comes to school and all events I know in Columbian. Man dressed nice, nice, most decent guy. This this that he invited us to his house and meda Ying. So we got four cops our security. We get to the block to the hill because it's up on a mountain, and there was like, big mistake, You're not going to I said, yeah, I'm going up there. He was like, no way, no way. I'm like senor such and such as my friend. He said, he's your friend, is my friend? We go up there. Bro. They made I don't know if you know what sun culture is. They made a pot of sun culture suit. This ship was like a human could fit in there. They was like this. Then they had a living room, a living room with a glass opens you you was you wasn't with us ass and the horses was doing fossa finos doing the horses you see with the tricks and this and this and that. It was in the living man they had a swimming pool of horses. They were swimming and shit in the living room. So imagine how we watched NFL. They got the horses topping doing this and this and that. Right, I never seen no ship like this. I've never been a part of this. I get back to the hotel. The promoter dude just told me he wants to shove a bat and my ass flipped me himself for you, why didn't you tell me? You know, mister moll, I said, I didn't even know he was that dude. He's in Miami, undercovered, nicest guy, and he looked like ghosts, like ghosts. He's the Colombian ghosts. When I go over there, he was say, why you don't sell me? You know, mister life. I say, my guys, my hurry for everything I said the day before, I'm so sorry. I said, nah, not so good. Brother sow love and I happened to know the god by mistake. That's my Columbia story that I was a girl. I was a girl. What else you got going on outside of music? Now? You like the advest I know you like it. You got the label, you do, the merch, you do ship, you got any cannabis.

00:32:31
Speaker 3: You got some cannabis. We got some we got some drawn work exotics. You know what I'm saying.

00:32:36
Speaker 1: We got I'm writing a little short film fire about the about the dibble in the podcast space. No doubt. I got some bad I got like some fool ship like fool review ship to another another little space like that, and just getting We're getting more artists. It's still a foodie. Yeah, only certain ship that anything or certain turning away. Yeah, you know. I went to uh Thimeland. We did uh Rolling Loud. We did Rolling Loud and Thiland High that one. I wanted to do that, all right, but listen, it is. It's a little bit of a culture shock or whatever. But the point is he I stood in the hotel. I was scared. I'm gonna keeping like them. You don't know. If I was in the fanciest record the hotel, you could be it. Man. This ship was incredible. But I was scared to eat, like if it wasn't like eggs and turkey. Bit I was not eating this ship. Sure enough, I go on Instagram and little Uzzi is eating like a fucking fucking rot roach or some ship. That ship went v I said, I am not leaving this fucking room. I'm sitting here watching see it the regulars ship breakfast, the fucking listen. The hotel was at a control fly. You know, I'm sitting my sweetest head, CARDI B's head, little WOZI like everybody with somebody. So the ship was too fly. But I was scared, with no disrespect. I was scared to like try ship like going the street.

00:34:17
Speaker 5: And that's how you still got your festival. Yeah, I stuck got the festal shy. I mean that ship, that ship was Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, yeah, that's old festival. Yeah, drum work fast.

00:34:31
Speaker 1: We did it for a couple of years and show we're gonna rebooth that I mean, probably bring it back twenty six, twenty six, you know I did it two three weeks from now, and yeah, saying that buffalo's God coming throat. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, hip hop and no your chest you got God coming man, shout out to my ball and should have went the heck. You know, my ship's symmetric, my ship. You can look at this ship through deep from every you see what I gotta deal with. I should have went the heck. His wedding is that same day, and I can't make it because I got that show with it was the time, but shout out should have went the heck and his wife to be. How do you meet Alchems just on Twitter? Like he heards once? I know you could spit. He'll reach out the exactly why and like he he t a guy like people was tagging me. He didn't even know my Twitter handle. I ain't evenly have that many followers or nothing. I had just started the page and he was he's seen a free styles saying I was on YouTube like yo, you created old d m me the number, like yo, let's late next time you come to l A come through. And we did that and the rest was rest was history. Love Alchemists, Bro. I'm glad everybody you know he always was that dude, but I'm glad they're acknowledging it now when they see in his greatness, you know, you know, guy like al comit quiet real hip hop and how he's doing Erikabadu album. I listened to the Freddie Gibbs album. I listened to, you know, pretty much anything he got to do with. I tuned in on Alchemist. What was the big moments for you, like who did you meet? What was the time that someone came up to you and just said, like you guys, oh man probably probably oh, probably hope. He was doing that show on LA and he pulled up. Yeah, he just pulled up like there was at a game or some shit. Sohoon. We crossed the straight at the stables and Nigga just pulled up. Watch the show like I'm performing on Go for a time. Look He's standing there on the stage. Just watch it. I'm like, Yo, my bugging now you even though it happened, don't do I mean I invited him to thirty six birthday part. He ain't never put out. Yeah, KD. You know what I'm saying. I Nigga pulled on to a show I was tapped in, just like knowing the music easy money, Sniper, he loves he love hip hop, hip hop. We got some dope beats too. Yeah, KD produced. I ain't know that KD k KD one of them dudes that if I big him up a certain he'll dis me on Twitter. You know. I keep telling you certain guys that when I big them up, they're this me for the culture. They'll be like, yo, crack for this. I don't really know about that. This like I got a selective list now that I could big up. You can't even big motherfuckers. Oct. Twenty t Waite Big up JD. Man, that's my boy trying to tell you I big them up. Yo. I never seen a better dude at the rock of this this that you cat crack that they did. I'm like, yo, this god like I can't. I don't know. Man. We in the media space now, so we ain't in the rapping space. You got the hoodie yon still chilling. We out here talking to dude. Sometimes our big dudes up and they come at me like, fuck that, that's not how And I'm man, I big you up though, I'm like, what the fuck? So KD. I remember that jay Z You know what I mean? Yeah, that went viral. Hold pull up your man, west Side gun Man. I love this guy, man. He I remember going down Tom Squared and he had the whole the big billboy, but he had the balenci Like that motherfucker he want to dress right like I love that ship, like he got that fucking BALESSI yaga three carters shit on this with the back. I'm like, I had to step out the car because you know that ship hip hop, But that's that ship right there. You know what I'm saying, So shout out your man west Side Gunner, Benny. You guys, you know pretty much. You guys just restored the feeling right a void that was really really missing. And even guys who felt like you, who are nice like you, they chose the other route, trying to be the gimmick or the new or the this or the that. Microwaves shit, Michael waves shit, and y'all just said, you know what we're going, beats and rhymes, and and then you caught everybody like a whole that loves real hip hop, the essence, the purity because it's very rare with the youth to see somebody because that is the harder route to beat some rhymes, correct, because the overnight success is the gimmick shit. You understand what I'm saying, but you know not to say some of them ain nice, Oh my god, some of them. You know, I'm overnight. It's not it's not too many overnights, you know, but that's what we feel like like pain. There was a huge void there, you know what I mean. And guys who were doing. What you were doing never really took off. And so when y'all start taking off and y'all start creating your own ship, we loving that legacy. Where do you see yourself drum work for Zelda in the next five years? Rich? Like y'all rich, I count everybody pocketing you come in with a yash, come in with a staff for five count everybody he.

00:40:51
Speaker 3: Got the fuck that had the bucket low like fuck it, dope, he got some money this guy.

00:40:56
Speaker 1: How important is it to give back? You know what I mean? Showing that the younger, the what they call these guys, the hyans in Buffalo, that you know you can make it. It's some hope, there's some sense of encouragement. It's extremely important, man, because especially coming from Buffalo or we ain't ad that, we ain't had nobody to give us, no no advice, no encouraging words, or even show us a blueprint. How to you know what I'm saying, make it in that space. So it's important, you know what I mean, That's what it's all about. You know what I mean? You uh, you can't take none of this ship with you, man, but you're gonna leave it here. You can leave a liar get back. So I don't want it. I don't want it to end. You know what I'm saying. What we was able to accomplish for the city of Buffalo and the whole upstate. You know what I'm saying. I don't want it to end with just us.

00:41:53
Speaker 3: So we gotta we gotta you know what I'm saying, Gonna have pour it back in, put it back in the part feel me.

00:42:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I said, I seen Wanda, I've seen Tyrone, I've seen Juneba. All the crack AADs from eighty eight in that Buffalo went up there. They shipped them up. I'm telling you. I was outside in Buffalo. I said, God damn, got the fucking Bronx crackeads up here. So let me let me ask you something in the streets perspective, right, could you said one of y'all was always in jail? I never heard that perspective. So, being from Buffalo enough state jails. Yeah, but all the jails are up there, right, and so like when you go Bigger crew, I wonder if they send them down did they send us up there? This is the question, do you go to jail upstate with everybody you grew up with is all, y'all, Like deeper, it would be a lot of buffalo niggas in state pens and even the cops like here, we can't relate to them. Right. So if you and RK as Island, you got some black Spanish cops stay talking to you like black and Spanish cops. Then you go up north and that's that's what you're dealing with, the baby. But you're already dealing with them, y'all living So, y'all, y'all know Uncle Tom, Yeah, Scott, No, that's a fan. I never know. Every time I went upstate to visit somebody, I always thought of like, it's there like a Buffalo crew? Are Upstate crew? That they're right there there there across the street. Now, I don't want to go there. Don't do that to me. I'm not good with the cold. I'm a sunshine motherfucker that blows up. My brother did time up state, man, motherfucker. I don't give a fuck what clothes you sent them. That motherfucker was cold. He'd be like, yo, Joe, I ain't going outside this ship cold. A couple of artists, you ain't gotta say top five, but a couple of artists to pave the way for you that you that you know, you consider living legend. You know you really fuck what they work. It's plenty of It's plenty, you know what I mean. It was just like recent like i'ma say, I'm gonna say, like, let's say my nigga Mars Rock Marcy, Yeah, shout out to rock Musky. I'm gonna say my nigga Sauce Walker likes. Walker's nice to you. Hey, Jada, why you always act like I'm I'm just saying, that's a great I like him. I like him, I like I like I like I like her, I like g Herbal he is my nigga. Can't lotty. You just had a show with Vegas. When I walked off stage, they played the record and I had to ask, like four or five, who's that? Who's that? Who that? And then it was like, yo, that's gee, Herbal. I was no Herb like that. Herb was nice, verb nice. That record kind of like touched the third rap, saying every now and then the record, you hear a song and that ship touched the third rap. This ship crazy. That's your guys. Yeah, right now, that's what That's what I'm listening to on fucking right now. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, listen to our clips. You know you know you know ship that's out right now. You already know that. Go to that show, James. You call me by everything else. You ain't telling me the clips was here too. I was sitting on the couch, I was doing apps. You text all these shows and then tell us that the clips. Bro, you think we wasn't fucking pulling up. You gotta be out of fuck it like this ship. I wanted to be in attendance. I don't want vi P. I would have been writing the crowd loving this show, real hip hop shit. James. You see when I say they be trying to do ship to me like I'm trying to go to the I'm going with the family to the Bad Bunny concert. And I got the call. I ain't really want today even though it's nothing but love, But I got the call, Yo, we don't want you to see people. We're gonna take you through the house where you get the free drinks with the I thought we was gonna be in the crowd, like you know, eipe either they don't want to if we starts to pull off at this clip. See humans, Nah, they ain't let me see humans. You think I'll be joking about that ship? They just gave me the call urge you coming. No human was gonna no humans gonna slip you in backstage, put you through the I'm like, I thought I was gonna really act up. You know what I'm saying. But yeah, the clips Clips album is he's uh, man, I hope, I hope what they did just Beats and Rhymes continues to do the numbers they did. Now everybody want to make up hoax and this and that. Some boys did numbers, you know what I'm saying for not commercial lies like you guys, you'll ever do it? Something with like Selena Goldmez and ship like that. I would love. So I can't wait. So are you ready? Yeah? Yeah, I've hung out for a couple of times. I definitely threw that on the table with my man. Cloth is like, yeah, man, we gotta we gotta get in that studio together. You know what I'm saying. I see it, I see you know me, I'm you know, you know I started Underground Brother and my dream was to be a big artist in the Superstar and the minute, and I got the opportunity. I did it. You know what I'm saying, And you know I get it. I see what you're saying. I'm fuck with that. Everybody don't fuck with that. Just everybody don't. The gods did not get the fuck out of here. So you got a new album and this stroke deal with rock Nation. Told us about that bag delicious. You can't kill God with bullets? Uh about to drop that? Ship Man? It was like, I said, what don't kill God with bullets? These titles? It was important for me to you know, dow this a part of my chapter to be with rock Nation and you know what I'm saying, and bring my album, bring my business over here with them. You know what I'm saying. Ship Let now should let you know what I mean? Bettc Man belt the Kolo Seasons put giving belt Man, be not surprised. I ain't think of that one right pull Poppy, We're gonna whip your ass. How is your relationship with God? The most High? Or God is the greatest Man? That was the greatest say of the guys in the back, God is the greatest man. There for the back of the congregation. You know that's how I feel right. So if God forbid, I got shot right now and I got five seconds, I'm praying to God. That's that's how much belief and faith I having God, or some guys don't want to pray to it. It's what I'm trying to tell you is I've seen the God preaching in the UK and a man took his time to stop and argue with him. That's fake. This you preaching faith? You this this is you know, It's good to see because I've never seen that before. I never seen somebody, you know, have that energy and that perspective against God. But some guy was they were just arguing with the guy in the UK, was like, hey, God told me to tell you he loves you. This is that we don't care we about you know what. This is the opposite side of that. So you know to know that God is the greatest you know, it's the greatest key to have. I mean for me, you know what I'm saying that you know, artist everything to me, But for real, what's all it's a great duties. This guy crazy with Jada crazy, y'all think I'm crazy? He witty like a man. Now I know why you top five because you be shooting me every episode like this. Never shoot from the sun. Hey Joe, what about the wags? What I'm looking at this? This guy other, you will destroying me other than a leg deal? Whether get you a deal? Then you go? This is did what hundred million for the cave? Now? This guy's insane? But brother man, we like to thank you for taking the time off pulling Gil God wait will it's check it out? Look forwardy down with rock Nation, dish Bro drum work is coming with Elders already here. You know what we're doing. Fuck, he's BTC felt the cooler. I got to tell you we sit down and thank god, a whole bunch of artists want to sit on the blue couch. And my business partner, I gotta say, y'all think we're doing good and fat Jo crazy. But this guy, he's very selectful with the artist to sit on the couch. He got a problem. He turns down guys just big and your name came up and in one second he was like, yo, one hundred percent, we need to do that, you know me? For a guy like me, I look up, I don't even say nothing. I ain't even because I don't think that ever happened when someone that's mentioned and he's like, I just look up, Okay, stay down.

00:51:55
Speaker 3: I guess we got a show because it got on coach who he's a hard one to catch. Sometimes everybody come up the same thing with it. But you want to Jo, don't say nobody's damn yo yo kiss. He ain't ship man.

00:52:12
Speaker 1: Let me tell you I think he's a nice guy. He's got diabolical boy he got I just be like, you don't. I don't listen, bro. We just want you to know we love you. Know you should to the game. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise to Conway the machine right,