Blue Jays-Yankees Game 3 preview, LA wheel play, dominate Brewers

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Speaker 1: I don't even know why I'm hosting. I forgot to ask you this the other day, but I'm not gonna forget twice this student called a postseason game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for about forty five seconds, you did check it off the list.

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Speaker 3: I'm there.

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Speaker 2: I got a lot of a lot of good feedback from ESPN and then the boys there and uh, the only thing I did wrong I forgot who was hitting. That's you know it it's hard.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: When I got there, They're like, all right, well he's not back, go ahead, and I said, all right, here we go. And I'm not mentally, you know, I just started rambling some shit off excuse me stuff and the way it went, man, it was a lot of fun. It's something you know, to think about. I think that'd be pretty cool to try. And you know, call be the play by play guy and it's it's a it's I tell you what. It's a lot more work. Don't get me wrong, I do all my homework. I do a lot. But I understand if you're the top dog like Scott has been, you know, his whole career, it's it's a different ballgame. So it was fun for the forty five seconds to a minute, I had it, but I was relieved when Sean got back in there for.

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Speaker 1: Sure what happened? Are you allowed to share?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think the door when he left to go get something real quick, locked behind him. That's what he told us. And no, he was banging on the door. I guess the crowd was too loud you couldn't hear him. And finally, I guess the security guy that was there had something to open the door up.

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Speaker 1: But we have a code red national broadcaster for ESPN for this game. Cannot get into the broadcast with code red.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I guess rule thumb don't ever lock the door any or don't ever shut the door, just in case. So security was tight there, which is good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we like that. We like that. But Todd father was a play by play guy for game one. Yeah, towards the beginning of Game one. Ye, So there you go. If you want to look back, I'm sure you can find it somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Later today we are going to do a postgame show on the Mariners and the Tigers. We are crossing fingers that will start on time. That'd be cool. I know that it's a little wet out in Detroit. Hopefully not too Cray, but Mariners Tiger's Game three series is tied at one. We've been doing postgame shows. We had one late on Monday night. We did the Cubs Brewers follow up, and then we also broke down the Phillies and Dodgers. We'll talk more about those series throughout the show here, but just letting you know that we did do live shows and post videos in case you missed them for postgame thoughts. Now, let's charge charge, all right, Todd father, we haven't had Yawn since the Blue Jays smacked the Yankees. I know you like to virtually smack Aeric Kratz. This was in person here two games tons of offense from Toronto. Yankee showed some fight in game two, but overall for a team that you've covered all year, really you've seen both the Yankees and the Blue Jays quite frequently. Your thoughts on these two so far.

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Speaker 3: Well, not very good if you want.

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Speaker 1: The truth, Well, not very good for the Yankees.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's what I'm meant. If people know me, they understand where I'm coming from. To give up that many runs. I remember I was watching I was at my sister and lost her little birthday party. I'm sitting there watching the game, and you know, we're all rooting for the Yankees. Bases loaded, and you got Aaron Judge up with nobody out here. We go the time to come and he swung at ball four. It was just you could feel it. After that, it's like, oh yeah, you got the run in from Bellinger and then it was just you get one run with bases loaded and you're still down two to one, and the wheels fell off. I I you know, I don't know if Toronto just has their number this year, and it's it's kind of amazing, you know. I think it's I'm not saying Blue Jays aren't a good team, but it just seems like it shouldn't be this far of a disconnect of run scored and everything else goes to show you that Toronto is one of the best places to play in, one of the toughest places to win in. In a playoff atmosphere, Vlad Guerrero, I mean, holy cow, Junior, he's taking off, you know, no, Bobashett and guy says, you know what, I got this, I'll take the reins, give me, give me the reins.

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Speaker 3: I got it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you look at his numbers, absolutely silly right now and he MVP right now status for him. And the pitching has been absolutely phenomenal. Kevin Gosman. I mean, we knew how good of a pitcher he was. He's just stepping up that.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: It's a split change that he throws is absolutely filthy. Looks like a fastball falls off the planet Earth. I mean, got to swing at it because it looks so tasty. But yeah, I mean there's so much more you can say about this team. They are just getting pushed in. They are just getting absolutely crushing. That's the Yankees and they got to figure it out. Been a part of both of them. Been with the Yankees when we're down, oh two against the Guardians and now you're gonna have to step up and win two at home.

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Speaker 1: You guys won that serious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, we came back in one three in a row. And I've been on the other end two you know, we beat We were up against the Giants in two thousand and fourteen, thirteen maybe and.

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Speaker 1: Twelve or fourteen, yeah, one twelve, excuse me.

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Speaker 2: And we go to San France and we want two in a row and we're flying home fielding really good, and then you know an error in the in the top of the ninth. They won three two, and you see it. It's that one game. It's that momentum shift. If you can win game three in best out of five, it just turns it just a little bit more to be like, oh the other like Toronto. If the Yankees win today, all of a sudden, Toronto's gonna be on their heels. The Yankees got nothing to lose. They got to go out and dominate. Toronto's like, all right, we still have two games, but we'd like to win here. So it's that psyche and that mentality of we don't want to get it to a game five.

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Speaker 3: So game three is very very important.

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Speaker 4: Todd, we played the Indians in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: And.

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Speaker 1: Big thing.

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Speaker 4: I remember a grand Slam kind of broke our back in that in that game, kind of like a grand Slam broke the Yankees back by by Vladdie. Kind of wasn't even that close when we were in Cleveland, and I remember sitting in a bullpen like really like these guys are beating us. And then and then we went back home, took game three, and then you had the Andrew Miller Greg Bird game. When you go back home, you have the exact same ability to dominate the team that you dominated at home during the regular season. I think the Blue Jays correct me if I'm wrong, are one in eight in their last nine games at Yankee Stadium, So to me, I think it kind of shifts to the Yankees a little bit. But the Yankees got to come out and they got to get on top here because you can't keep playing from behind, especially from behind two or three runs.

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Speaker 2: And he's not afraid of the moment. And I think that's the biggest thing. You see him stepping up in these moments. There's not much more you can say about the guy. He's absolutely phenomenal. You know, you say, oh, he had a bad year. You know, I remember two years ago he didn't hit a home run at home until halfway during the season. Something like that. The dude can freaking flat out play and that's the issue. There's not one pitch you can get by him. You get O two, don't make a mistake. He's looking for that pitch and he's been absolutely filthy with it. And you know, I always talk about riding that wavescooter and next thing, you know, it's like, God, how can the Yankees do this? But they can. They do have the firepower. They have to find a win to win this one. In Game four, we don't know if it's a bullpen game for the for the Blue Jays or not, but if it is with Cam Schlitzler, who's riding really high right now, we could see this calling back to Toronto. But again, this is the most important game. Win the day and move forward. Stop worrying about where you're at in the in placement.

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Speaker 1: Mm hm, Hey, I thought the Blue Jays made a brilliant trade and pick up with the Shane Bieber acquisition at the deadline, and this is his time to shine. Biaber's been around for a while. I know he hasn't had a ton of starts yet since coming back from the surgery, but he's not going to be phased at Yankee Stadium.

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Speaker 3: At all, not at all.

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Speaker 1: Reddan's good, But to me, this matchup is kind of a wash. I mean, I feel like they're both number two ish yeah starters.

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Speaker 2: Shane b reminds me of that Dylan see is kind of attitude, just like, give we go a grippet of repidies my best pitches. You can hit it, go ahead, but most of the time you're really not gonna hit it. What do you think, go ahead?

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Speaker 3: No, You're fine?

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Speaker 1: No, No. About the pitching matchup, Kratz, I mean, do you think there's an edge?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think Rodan's had a little bit of trouble against the Blue Jays because he's been walking guys and obviously they're not going to strike out a ton, So that's where I see the issue there. But I think Bieber has the edge if and I'm going back to twenty twenty and I said this to Bieber when he was on the show here he was tipping in twenty twenty in Cleveland, they were the home team because COVID you had to go the first round to the home team, and we went in there and I think that was Cy Young Shae Shane Bieber, and it was basically a separation between his glove coming up and his leg coming up. There was more separation, less separation somewhere in there, and they had him g went to write center off of them, I think maybe twice. But so if he can eliminate that, if he can avoid that, this is his first start against them this season. To me, I think the advantage is with the Jays pitching matchup if they don't have something else on them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, if Aaron Judge doesn't have a big home run in Game three and the Yankees fall, how do you look at this postseason and his postseason legacy so far. I know he has to win a World Series to solidify things as a legend in New York. He hasn't done that yet. He's getting knocks. He doesn't look as lost as he did last year, but you do have to deliver in the big moments and Also, he doesn't look like the same guy. I mean, the expectations are sky high. They should be. He's the best hitter in our generation, but he's not the same hitter in the postseason. And it's not like we're getting a game or two here or there. I mean, he's locked some pretty serious postseason time.

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Speaker 2: Listen, when you talk about legend, he's gonna be a legend either way in my book, whether he wins a World Series or not. He's just gonna go down as a person that hasn't won a World Series for the Yankees.

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Speaker 3: And that's it. There's been a bunch of them.

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Speaker 2: Don Maddingly the name one who isn't absolutely phenomenal who he was an absolutely phenomenal baseball player and manager. You shouldn't think of this guy any different. He's an absolute stud. He's hitting the ball. It's a totally different Aaron Judge. Yeah, he hasn't pop one out, and eventually that will come with more games if it happens. But there's no doubt in my mind he's one of the most prolific hitters we're ever going to see in our time. And there's no other way you should think about him like that. Everybody talks about the playoffs. I remember when we were in there in seventeen Cratzy, how good was he? He was absolutely filthy. So you know it's hit or miss. But this year he's doing just fine. The power numbers just aren't there.

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Speaker 4: What are you going to do if he hits eight hundred for the rest of the postseason, he hits five more dingers and they lose in Game seven of the World Series, it won't matter. It won't matter if you want. If he wants to be legend status like is Don Mattingly legend status like the guys who won all those championship I would say he's probably a tier below if he wants that legend status. I don't think he wants that legend status. I think he just wants the World Series ring. But if he wants that does not matter what he does. It only matters what the team does.

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Speaker 1: You're talking Jeter Posada, Mo, anybody was Babe, we're.

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Speaker 4: Talking Yankee history. We're not talking baseball history. Baseball history. He's going to go down as an unbelievable hitter. I'm talking Yankee history. How he's going to be remembered.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this question, if you had to pick a right fielder the most Yankees from when they first started to now, who's going.

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Speaker 3: To be your right fielder?

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Speaker 4: You mean best ones?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're going with the all time Yankee lineup, is Aaron Judge in that lineup?

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Speaker 3: How about that? Sorry? Yeah, okay, that's a legend of me.

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Speaker 4: Though, No, okay, he's done first base.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking back to all the first basemen. I can't I can't think. I think it would have to be no who else.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to simplify it here for me, Like, here's the thing. He's in one thousand o ps guy, and in the playoffs in the last several years, he's more like a seven to fifty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, sure that power numbers have dropped ye in the playoffs. Of course, you know nobody's denying that. But the team is.

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Speaker 1: Built for him to look like he did in the regular season, and if he doesn't, the team is not the same. Last year they had the gian Carlos stan Is on another planet card this year not yet. So if you don't get that, they're waiting for Judge bases loaded that opportunity. You watch Judge all year, you're like walk minimum, maybe double or a Grand Slam, and he doesn't come through. And I know it's just one ab, but my point is, overall Kratz, if he doesn't look like a beast as he does in the regular season, it does cost the Yankees. They're built for him to be a one thousand oh ps guy playoffs regular season. I know it's tougher pitching in the playoffs, but still I would say when you look at his abs, they're nice abs. It's just not what we usually see from him exactly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but we can't meld like the conversations into like does it matter to the Yankees. Yeah, it matters, like it definitely matters, But we're talking about his legacy. To me, I think it's a little different and one at bat. One at bat doesn't change people's minds because Emmanuel Clausse would say Judge had a pretty decent at bat against him last year, kind of a big spot went apo rocket down the right field line, Like there's it's not one at bat. To me, it's not the results. It's about does he get a ring or does he not get a ring? If we're talking about legacy, does the team need him to do well for them to get a ring. Yes, but I think they're two different arguments or discussions, and.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to keep going at you, which we don't.

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Speaker 3: I'm just from my opinion.

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Speaker 2: I think his legacy is always going to be there, no matter if he wins a World Series with that help, of course, but he's got sixty two home runs, you know, besides Barry Bonds, he's the only one to ever reach that plateau. So he's the home run leader in a single season. He's a guy that has feared all over the land. We might never see a guy of this stature, you know. Show Hao Tani. I feel like he's in a different world because he pitches. But for me, he's my number one pick overall after Show Hao Tani, pretty much everybody so and last thing, I had a brain fart.

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Speaker 3: Lou Garrick was a first baseman. I just had a brain fart there.

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Speaker 2: He would be my pick at first base, Scott.

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Speaker 1: It's a good pick, all right. Pinstripe Territory will go over this. I think Derek's been, you know, a little bit critical because he's like Judge has to show up in those spots. That's how this team's built. I'm sure trying to bring the message over from Derek. You can listen more to Derek. He's posting pregame shows. He's got postgame shows like he does all season long, and he'll have one after the Yankees and the Blue Jays. Reminder, we're doing hours after that first game, the Tigers and the Mariners, a Philly special. That's NBC Philly reporter John Clark, who's a who. I'd been around him plenty of times. He's always got his phone on with video. But he did capture the Duran entrance and we talked about this a little little bit last night with Kratz. They were booing, not Duran, they were booing life. They lost both.

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Speaker 3: Games at home.

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Speaker 1: They've lost a lot of playoff games at home lately.

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Speaker 3: What was the score of that thing? They were down right when he came.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were down by a few.

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Speaker 2: See, I think all closers, if you're not up in the game, they shouldn't have the lights in it. They could have the music. You don't want the pumping cert don't. I don't want that, especially when you're down, when you could play your favorite song, you know, for Edwin, go ahead, but you don't have to the lights and everything else. In my opinion, if it's the fans for okay, you want to do it for the fans. But when you're losing coming in a game, play the music, try and get everything going and work from there.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 4: I like that. I think this is why Philly fans booed Santa Claus because when they're mad, that's what they do.

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Speaker 1: They boo about Josh Naylor having a kid. Oh man, that's a baseball fan.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: But he's back, so we don't need to talk about any bs with the with the kid at this time. And is he going to miss the game? He's back, you need to make the trip initially. He's in the starting lineup for Game three. And if he wasn't then missed the game. He's having a kid.

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Speaker 2: Listen, life comes me for anything else. I don't care what you say. You cannot plan of the time. There's stuff you could do to plan things. Have children.

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Speaker 3: Some can't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to bring you want to bring beautiful children into the world.

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Speaker 3: Any day, anytime. Game seven. I don't really care children.

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Speaker 1: First, Yep, you don't miss.

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Speaker 4: You don't miss the birth of your child unless something, unless you can't get there for some reason, like he had the chance to be there. It's awesome in the off day, like, yeah, you missed the game. Sorry, sorry fans may Daby fan should look at it too and be like it's okay. It's okay.

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Speaker 2: Unless you're a Kratz and you have five kids a fifth one you can miss.

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Speaker 1: Right right eventually, Yeah, tell one of them.

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Speaker 2: We got a girl, we got a boy. Just let me know, make sure, just call me, send me a picture.

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Speaker 3: So man, I was riding high.

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Speaker 1: What did you expect? And then what did you see?

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Speaker 3: I expected them to not give up that many runs in.

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Speaker 2: The first inning of the first game, and I expected them I expect to be a low scoring game. I said, yeah, I did, just because of what I saw before against the Padres, a nasty, nasty team meaning good. I expected a love scoring game. I expected the cub to find a way to win one of those games you go three to nothing. I was watching like, oh my god, Suzuki just had an absolute missile, and then mister ol' vaughn said time out.

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna pop fly to left.

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Speaker 2: My wait, oh my god, it's gone three run Jimmy jacket. Next thing you know, I'm like, this game's over. That's it. You can't give up the three run homer in the first and then another three run home in the bottom of the first and think like you're in You're the Cubs. You're like, god, we just gave him our best punch and they just went bang bang bang.

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Speaker 3: That It is this.

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Speaker 1: Shutdown in your mind. You know, when you hit that three run homer, even though it's in the first inning, if you get past that bottom one, does that mean anything? It does, dude. Yeah, the reaction right after the next at.

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Speaker 3: Least a momentum, at least of momentum.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's game over, but that's that's like, okay, all right, we're here, all right, let's go.

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Speaker 3: So sorry Cratzy jumped.

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Speaker 4: I don't know the whole the whole shutdown anything. I'm kind of it's kind of like home field advantage. Is there a momentum thing, yes, but the shutdown inning if you need, if you need to be like, oh, I gotta get up as a pitcher, I gotta get up for this inning. The boys need me.

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Speaker 3: To shut it down.

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Speaker 1: You're cooked.

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Speaker 4: You're cooked. It's not gonna happen. Like you better. You better be going out there to shut every one of them dudes down, every single pit you're throwing. So is it big for the hitters? Yeah, it's big for the hitters. If you go one, two, three, boys are like, man, I just took my batting gloves off. I'm ready to get my second at bat already here it's like seven minutes ago we were just hitting that. That's helpful.

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Speaker 1: I think having the Maze throwing enough strikes, he's going to be helpful for Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: That was nasty and where there we all talked about his second half. I mean, his fastball was electric, it was just absolutely by you. And then a slider at ninety five.

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Speaker 3: What is that? Why does anybody want to play anymore? When it's got a ninety five mile hour slider. It's not a slider, it's just a cut fastball. That's filthy.

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Speaker 2: God, ninety five, that's five mile an hour difference, and it will get you out in front. How How are you out in front of a ninety five mile an hour cut slide? Yankee, doodle dandy, don't. I don't know. I'm just he was nasty, and you know he drew upwards of forty something pitches, but god, two walks, four strikeouts, I don't care. You go walk the whole side. You're still not getting anybody. Then that was really good showing by him.

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Speaker 1: He's got to throw enough strikes though, That is the key, right, I mean, he threw just enough. There were times you're looking and you're like, okay, is he gonna find the zone enough? And I don't remember if it was like second or third av maybe he's facing someone. He falls behind three to zero and I'm like, oh, are we just gonna get a string of misses here? But he corralled it.

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Speaker 4: He did. Carrell. If you watched Contraras just stayed in the middle of the plate. He would back up some sliders, he would throw the fastball up above his zone. By accident, he just stayed in the middle of the plate. And it was like, let's just let's just throw heaters, which is a which is also like, that's scary to do. You had a one run lead after the Contrera's home run, and you're like, all right, I guess you know he's you know, we can't give up a run here. We don't want him to tie the ball game up. They were like, I think our stuff plays the whole zone. He hung a he hung an indoor curveball. He hung a curveball inside for strike three to Dansby Swanson. That was eighty nine. But Todd, You're going, oh my gosh, this guy's nasty. This guy's so nasty. You're looking at the numbers. My thing is, I don't see the swings coinciding with the numbers. Maybe I'm wrong, and it was a great outing. I don't know how much confidence Pat Murphy has going forward. I wonder if he's like, all right, did it, got it. It's out of the way. I'm wondering what I'm wondering, what's gonna be what his next outing will look like.

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Speaker 1: H Okay, I mean he might not have one. I'm they in this series pretty quickly, but yeah, going forward, say, if he's taken on the Dodgers will be interesting. It's a pretty patient team too, all right, So Bridge ROLLI just put out this big manager carousel update. A few of the notable notes. Former Big League catchered Nick Hunley the favorite for the opening with the Giants. You spoke about that the other day. Albert is the favorite for the Angels gig, but Tory Hunter and Kurt Suzuki are also in the mix. She said. Rocoball Deli, Brandon Hyde, and Davey Martinez want to manage again. Colorado's waiting to hire their front office leader first, then they'll figure out manager. Lots of other notes on here, anything stick out so far to you guys in terms of the openings.

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Speaker 4: Not the openings, but the guys who are free agents. I love that for Rockoball Deli, I love that he got out of there because the ORG wasn't behind him, especially like what I've heard from his players about him, what I've heard from people have talked to him about it. Like to me, I think he can slide into one of the few jobs that they need a winner right away, and people in misso it'll be like, oh, he's not a winner. He created a bad environment for them to lose. No to me, I think I don't know if he has those connections with alex Anthopolis, but going down to Atlanta, somebody with experience like that knows how to deal with a team, but also knows, Hey, you know what, We're just gonna kind of go and put those boys out there, let him play.

00:27:15
Speaker 1: And a chip on your shoulder manager, I think is a thing too. Obviously he's gonna do what he does. But does Rocco Balldli want to win? And I know he can't control the game, right but if he goes to the Braves, for example Kratz, I mean, he could have a very good team from the jump. I don't know if that's going to happen, but I like the call. Derek Falvey, who's the head of the front office for the Twins, said something along the lines of this is on me, and I'm like, you're a nice guy, but it's not on you. You just put it on Roco. It's not at all. If it was on you, you wouldn't have.

00:27:48
Speaker 3: You put it on rock All baby, it's.

00:27:50
Speaker 1: On me, but we fired him. That's not how it works.

00:27:54
Speaker 2: Listen, there's two names right here. I'm a little biased because I really like these two guys. I want my boy lash Ryan Flaherty to get a managerial job. I've come up with the ranks with him. We had the same agency together, we actually roomed together. He's a clown, but he's a smart human being and he really knows the game of baseball.

00:28:13
Speaker 3: He's been coaching for a long time now. He knows ins and outs.

00:28:16
Speaker 2: He's a computer whiz now, maybe not back in the day, but he knows his stuff. And George Lombard, man, this guy is a truly remarkable dude. His wife went the Rutgers, so I got to give him the upper hand too. Just putting it out there. Yeah, I'd love to see those two guys get a shot a big stut Flarity Rockies my call, Oh that would be lobbly.

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00:30:03
Speaker 2: This is going to be maybe maybe one time out of the whole year that you get that opportunity and do it right.

00:30:10
Speaker 3: Cratzy.

00:30:11
Speaker 2: It's got to be put on either by the bench coach or a player. You talk about it, you go over this in spring training and you I don't know about you, Kratzy, but you barely do it during the year. And if you do, you do it half assed. You're going through the motions. You just want to get it over with. They ran it to perfection. Maximuntsey crashes, Mookie Betts breaks late, Castianos doesn't get off the bag more. He needed to get off more there. I thought his momentum was stuck at second. It was a perfect throw. Freddie Freeman get in the second base so Stott couldn't get to second.

00:30:48
Speaker 3: Everything was perfect. Once he threw the third I'm like, oh my god, it's not a force. What is he doing?

00:30:54
Speaker 2: Boom got him. It was a monster play. It was gutsy. It was ballsy and it worked perfect. The bunt was great. You can't blame him for bunting a third base. That's what you're taught to do. You want the third basement a crash because nobody's ever at third base unless it's a tie game first and second and you're trying to get the out of third. Phenomenal job. And this is why this is a World Series caliber team. They've done it before and they took a chance. Guess what what happens? They don't get the guy out a third Oh boy, they could tie the game and then you go to extra innings. Whatever phenomenal play. As a third baseman, I get goosebumps. I get fired up for because it never works, and that worked and it wasn't even a forced play.

00:31:36
Speaker 4: And they have to in this situation. We know that Mookie called it. He's got to know his personnel. Because the best bunt play with a runner on second, whether the first or second or runner on second, it's the bunt play that we use all the time when I coach high school is I want the pitcher to crash the third baseline. The picture has to be athletic, The pitcher has to be trustworthy, but he has to crash the third baseline hard Brian Butterfield came up with this. Third baseman stays home shortstop, I mean the shortstop cover second. Second baseman goes to first. First basement basically covers the mound, and you're leaving first base vacant. Because of what Todd said, you bunt the ball to third. If the first baseman's crashing the mound and the pitcher's crashing the third baseline, you're making the pitcher pick that up. They ran it opposite where Vessia really wasn't even going to be in this play. Taking the ball out of the pitcher's hand is genius. I think what's overshadowed here because MOOKI called to play. Mookie did a great job at disguising it and making up two steps on Castianos who didn't have a jump, is how hard that play is for Max Munsey to come running in plant and turn and fire it. Todd knows there's plenty of times when you run this drill and that ball's bunted where stop bunted it. I'm waiting. I'm waiting until Edmund or whoever was playing second at that time, gets the first and I just get the out at first. We're good, nothing hurt. We're just gonna stay away from a sack fly with a run on a third.

00:33:12
Speaker 1: We have Max Munty talking about this, so I think it's worth the thirty seconds here. It is.

00:33:18
Speaker 5: You know, wheel play is not something with that we traditionally do. But as soon as as soon as we got in that situation, me move and Tommy immediately started talking about, hey, we gotta we gotta try something different here. We can't just play standard bump play. And when when that came out made the pitching change, we talked to him about it and he was all on on board, and you know, I'm gonna credit Mook.

00:33:35
Speaker 3: It was it was his idea.

00:33:36
Speaker 1: We got to go.

00:33:36
Speaker 5: You know, he's saying, we gotta go wheel player. We got to wheelay, And so we talked about how we were gonna do it, and uh, you know, we we get executed it to perfection.

00:33:42
Speaker 2: How big could you feel the momentum change getting that out at third base?

00:33:46
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's huge. You know, you get that, you get that guy off second base, you get it out there, and you know it's just that that changes everything in that ning.

00:33:56
Speaker 1: That took me back to like, I don't know when you're when you're playing whatever sport you're playing, and there's that one guy who's like, oh, we got to do something different. We gotta do the wheel play. Guys, we gotta do the wheel play. And you're like, I don't know, man, a little dicey. It's just like, damn, he hasn't been a shortstop for very long either. He's been doing this his whole white athlete. Yeah, freaking athlete. That's cool. That's why you bring on winning players. I mean, obviously the Dodgers have a lot of money and resources, but so do many other teams, and they seem to be in these spots over and over again.

00:34:29
Speaker 2: Before you call, tell me I'm wrong. Here was did it seem like it was home field advantage there?

00:34:35
Speaker 3: Man?

00:34:35
Speaker 2: I felt like just by looking at some of the bats swarbur and and Harper, it just seemed like they're swinging. They were trying to hit a you know, eight run homer instead of just trying to drive the ball. The opposite way. To me, I felt like if they weren't going, the crowd wasn't in it as much.

00:34:51
Speaker 4: I mean, if they weren't going, no, no, You're right. If they weren't going the crowd wasn't in it. Philly Philly fans are definitely They're not fair weather because they love their team. But if it ain't going well, they're not going to be like everybody, here's the turner, the Trey Turner, like standing ovation, no, no, no, no, like this is postseason. The fans are panicked. Is it the Philly? Are the Phillies panicked? I don't think they're panicked. I think they're trying to do the same thing that they've done all year. I think they've run into some brutal pitching. And I agree with bunting there. And I want to know if Topper called it because they brought Invader to pinch hit. So if you're bringing invader to pinch hit, is he a home run guy? Is he driving the ball with a runner on second to be able to score a guy? I don't know. I agree with the bunt. You are giving yourself so many more chances of scoring a runner from third than you are from second. You have to get a hit. How many hits did they have at that point, especially coming off the bench. It's to me, it's to me, it's a no brainer.

00:35:56
Speaker 2: On the bunt, I think so you had the right person doing it. He didn't do anything wrong. He bunted at the perfect time. Maybe if you saw him crashing a little bit more, you come back and slash. But at the same token, it's the playoffs. Everything's gonna be blown up more. They just made better execution. You tip your cap and you're like, shoot, what could have done different?

00:36:19
Speaker 3: Nothing.

00:36:20
Speaker 2: They made an executional play and they did it to perfection.

00:36:23
Speaker 1: Do you think the Phillies have a chance, I mean they No.

00:36:26
Speaker 3: I don't think they do. I don't.

00:36:29
Speaker 2: I think the Dodgers are just playing out of their minds right now. And it's playoff baseball, which they've been doing, so I shouldn't say they don't have a chance.

00:36:38
Speaker 3: But it's not. It's not going to be.

00:36:40
Speaker 2: It's going to be very hard for them to come back to Philly and get another win.

00:36:45
Speaker 4: I would say the Phillies have a chance because of how we thought they were gonna win the series anyway. They have really good pitching. Their pitching isn't gonna decline. The Dodgers have only scored in one inning, the seventh inning in Game one. Everything in Game two so they've done a good job of keeping them off the basis, but it's not going to happen at all for Philly if it doesn't come from postseason legends like Kyle Schwarber, Bryce Harper, guys who have had those big moments and can carry their team. If you can't keep those two guys off the bases, the Dodgers will not win if they continue to do what they're doing. Game three is going to be a cinch for him.

00:37:29
Speaker 1: Kratz last thought here looking back, is there anything that you would have done differently as far as deploying your pitching staff Rangers. Suarez is going to piggyback Aaron Nolan game three. He's been a big game pitcher for them, and then also Durand pitching late in this game when they were already trailing by quite a bit. Would you be super ballsy and try and pitch them to just keep the score the way it is, like, give me anything that you would have done, And I know it's easy to look back that maybe is a little bit less traditional than what was going on here.

00:38:00
Speaker 4: Change you mean changing what they've already done or what they're going forward and going to do going forward? If you think Aaron, Nola and Ranger Suarez combined have to give you six innings. I love starting Nola because you can't go Ranger and an elimination game. You get any kind of traffic and go poop. No, nope, we're done, We're done. We're done. Nola's gonna pick up the rest of the innings. Nola's the wild card.

00:38:27
Speaker 5: To me.

00:38:28
Speaker 4: Nola comes out, he gets one or two guys on Bang, you might go right to You might go right to Kirkering, you might go right to Strom in that first inning, and it will be something that Nola could give you four. But Nola's biggest problem has been he's had one blow up inning. Is that inn't going to be the first inning and then the Phillies are down three to nothing. That's the risk that you take. But to me, I think you take Nola first and then you go Ranger and Duran. He's gonna give innings. It might be the seventh and eighth because he might have to face his pocket during that time, and then they're gonna get another inning and they're gonna figure out who's gonna close it out. It might not be somebody, it might not be somebody you think that's gonna close the game out if the Phillies are winning.

00:39:16
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Craig Breslow. At his exit press conference, he said, quote, We've talked a lot about how this window of contention is upon us. Other quotes, every team gets better if you can bring in a starter or develop a starting pitcher. He can pitch at Crochet's level. Talking about wanting to get another start of this offseason, They're going to be as aggressive as they can to try to chase that down.

00:39:39
Speaker 3: And you can say it, spit all you want, great, We.

00:39:43
Speaker 1: Just want to know about the throttle.

00:39:46
Speaker 4: We just want to do the best we can because we have a team that can win. If I'm the Red Sox and I just or if I'm a Red Sox fan and I just got Craig breslo in after having clearly hein Bloom has done what he's done and he's kind of built this team, I want to hear Craig Brusli go, We're gonna bring a winning team to this city World Series or bust for me. I'm willing to put my name on the line, and I hope everybody in the organization front off or front office players. Everything gets in line. Because I'm the one that leads this charge. I have backing from ownership. They're gonna make me spend They're gonna get me to spend money. We're gonna do this. The World Series is ours.

00:40:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for GM crats, for GM fratz. I'm coming with you too.

00:40:38
Speaker 3: Let's go.

00:40:39
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean no, listen, Steve.

00:40:41
Speaker 3: Cohen did it and failed.

00:40:43
Speaker 1: That's true.

00:40:43
Speaker 3: That's a guy that put it to all the chips in and failed.

00:40:46
Speaker 2: He's gonna be the talk for years to come until they get back into playoffs and do some sort of dam.

00:40:52
Speaker 1: But they also have a weird approach on starting pitchers right now with free agency. Right you're a big money team, and then you're like, I want to dance around starters because I don't believe in the big boys. Problem. That is a problem. That's that's that's a foundational issue issue that they have right now. Right that's coming from their president of Baseball Operations. And you might have to change that.

00:41:13
Speaker 3: You're going to have to because you're.

00:41:15
Speaker 1: Gonna spend on everything else. And then you're like, you're gonna take lottery ticket risks right with our pitchers and hopefully that works out.

00:41:22
Speaker 3: You know, and Peter Lions is not coming back anytime soon.

00:41:25
Speaker 1: So look at the Yankees. So they got Max Freed. The Yanks got Max Freed, and someone came out recently and said the next option for them was Griffin Canning. I mean, Gryffin Canning had a nice month and change and got hurt with the Mets. Look at the difference there, huge. Where are the Yankees without Max Freed this year?

00:41:43
Speaker 3: It's trouble.

00:41:55
Speaker 1: Hey, we've got a postgame show. It's the Mariners and Tigers facing off for Games three. We'll see you after that one and we'll talk about what happened. And then after the Yankees match up with the Blue Jays. Derek Lewandowski's Pinstripe Territory is the spot. Even if you're a Blue Jays fan and you're watching right now, I mean, you clearly don't like the Yankees. Are you gonna be on that one? Why are you pointing out your sol?

00:42:18
Speaker 4: Yeah?

00:42:19
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I didn't know that. Eric Kratton Pinstripe Territory tonight to either pump up Yankee fans after a big Game three win to vault themselves back into the series or to put them to bed for the twenty twenty five season and Blue Jays fens will be tuning in at that point. It's part of the FT Network. Go check it out. Krats hats, What are you wearing today?

00:42:43
Speaker 4: I mean, I've been wearing it for days and honestly it's hard to see, but it's the Uh it's a players Weekend hat. You see the different logo that they use for Players Weekend. They used to do fun stuff for Players Weekend. What is my Brewers hat to me? I don't think there's a hotter team blue Jays right now, and I didn't pull the Blue Jays hat out.

00:43:03
Speaker 2: So will you get a ring if one of those teams win? For what you're just you're just in love with them, and I just think you should get a ring.

00:43:15
Speaker 4: Eight of the ten eight of the ten teams that were in the playoffs, or ten of the twelve teams I played for. So I really have a lot of homerism.

00:43:25
Speaker 3: Either every game you have a homerism.

00:43:30
Speaker 4: Except for the Dodgers Dodgers Reds, I didn't have a I didn't have a dog in the fight, but everybody knew who was going to win that game. That series was over before it started. Oh sorry, sorry, Tom.

00:43:41
Speaker 1: I mean there was one inning per night where it felt a little tight and that was it.

00:43:47
Speaker 4: That was when they brought their bullpen in. That was that was when the Dodgers brought their bullpen.

00:43:50
Speaker 1: In and kind of treated it like spring training where they were trying were like, nope, still can't throw, Nope, can't throw strikes. Yeah, we're gonna go with our crazy plan.

00:43:59
Speaker 3: That actually was for them.

00:44:00
Speaker 2: It was yeah, learning really think about it, learning curve of who's got the coon is the pitching big game.

00:44:07
Speaker 1: You don't want to do the Wildcard series because you could get bounced. But if you do an you're the Dodgers. They did kind of figure some things out and say, yup, out of the circle of trust. You're out of the circle of trust. Okay, Roki Sazaki's our new closer. Things did change a little bit there.

00:44:23
Speaker 4: Just just a little rehab. They rehabbed against the Reds.

00:44:28
Speaker 1: We have, Hey, it happens. We have Dan Wilson on the chess match with aj Hinch and the aldsh the first full season for Wilson managing the Mariners, he said, quote, I don't know how to play chess. So I don't know how to use that as a metaphor, but he's right there on every move. There's an experience different tier ajsment managing for a minute now, Dan's new to the party. He's a longtime big league catcher and he's been in organizations for a while. They love him out there, but there is a difference in experience, in postseason experience between these two.

00:45:04
Speaker 3: No doubt.

00:45:05
Speaker 2: He might he might not be playing chess, but he knows his team and understands their capabilities. He knows his pitching staff, and that doesn't mean he has to be a wizard of putting the right guy in at the right time. Just be a manager and be yourself.

00:45:17
Speaker 3: That's it.

00:45:18
Speaker 1: There's less for him to do. To the Tigers roster.

00:45:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, build the structured.

00:45:22
Speaker 1: By Scott Harris, the president of Baseball opposite GM whatever he is, Kratz to have all of these subs, like, there's just a lot more going on with the entire organizational strategy. The Mariners have a lot more. Hey, this is our guy. He's playing every day.

00:45:35
Speaker 4: Dan Wilson's like Col Roley, JP Crawford, Julio Rodriguez. Hey, HENNYO. Suarez, JP Crawford, You're gonna hit nine, Go play short stop, Let's go boys.

00:45:44
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