40s and Free Agents: The NFC South's 5 Impact Additions and Rookies

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Speaker 1: Welcome to forties and free Agents. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I am with my friend Daniel Jeremiah, and we are talking about maybe my favorite division in all of football. I did a whole episode DJ about why we love the NFC South on NFL Daily, which is a great podcast, and I have a feeling people listen to both.

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Speaker 2: Do you love the NFC South?

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Speaker 3: I have to love the NFC South because Jason Lytill give me a hard time if I if I somehow disrespect the team or aren't aren't including them in some discussion. So the albody, they're always front of mine. Yeah, I've known Jason forever, so there was I don't even this happened, maybe like ten years ago or something, but I some list or one of these conversations and he gave me a hard time about it. So then now anytime a discussion comes up, I always still kind of think about the Bucks, like can I forget because you just kind of they're never that division's never really front of mine. They don't get a lot of buzz or a lot of attention, and then you kind of look up and a team like Tampa has been very consistently good for quite some time.

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Speaker 2: Now mine for me.

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Speaker 1: On top of that, I think there are Super Bowl contenders this year, so I'll start there. And if you're just joining us here on forties in free agent, what we're doing. We're doing two shows a week leading up to the NFL season. We're going through every single division and we're talking about the top five impact players added this offseason in terms of veterans, and then the top five rookies, and we'll apply what we've heard and seen so far in the offseason to that too, and then we're gonna have a couple of fun episodes previewing the season right before that as well. I'm going to start with the Bucks then, because Hassan Redick, to me, was the type of signing Daniel that like, that's the type of signing is maybe the cherry on top for a potential Super Bowl contender. I really believe the Bucks are that good. I think they have a lot of room for improvement from where they were a year ago on defense, they have the right coach for it.

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Speaker 2: And I think Reddick, who just had a.

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Speaker 1: Totally lost year with the Eagles, I mean with the Jets rather last years so forgettable you almost forget he was there.

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Speaker 2: I think he can give them what they need.

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Speaker 1: Which is a little more juice off the edge in terms of their pass rush.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that fit there too. You know, I steeing this team last year live. It was one of the most physical teams that I saw the whole season. And when you have Videvea who was just a dominant player, and then you got Kancy who can get up the field as an inside rusher, those are hard to find. And now you're able to compliment them with kind of a fastball with Hassan Reddick on the outside to go along with you know, Logan Hall Elijah Roberts who they drafted are more physical kind of base players. So and then Diabi's a freaking explosive another explosive player.

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Speaker 4: So they've they've got guys they can throw at you.

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Speaker 3: But to me, I think that we don't necessarily always talk about them as the physical teams. But when you have an offensive line like they have with Werfs and company, they move people on offense on their front and defensively they can reset the line of scrimmage. So I'm I'm a fan of how they approach the game there.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I know about Todd Bowles defense.

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Speaker 1: You know he's always going to bring the heat and that if they're coming off a bad year, he almost always rebounds. If you look at his history as a coordinator as a coach, and you look at the rankings in terms of his defenses, it's not perfect every single season, but if he has a bad year, he doesn't stay bad for long. And I think they got younger in the secondary, and then I think some of the additions they made, you know, in the draft and then free agency, and then I do think Redick is just a great candidate to bounce back because he was one of the most consistent pass rushers in the league for about three years before that last year with the Jets.

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Speaker 2: All right, give me a rookie.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'll stay with that squad, and I'll go to a Mecca Buka first round pick wide receiver red of Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: Who's just to me like ready made.

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Speaker 3: There's some prospects when you draft him, and so here's our development plan, and you're one's going to look different than year two and year three. He is ready made. This is a clear packaging. You know exactly what you're getting with him. And when I pull up my notes on him to me and everything out of train camp. You tell me what you've read and heard, but everything the feedback I've gotten is that he's been excellent in camp thus far. But he's almost a little under six to one two hundred pounds. He ran four four eight strong, mature, physical, Those are the first three words that I wrote down. He can work in traffic, He's tough, he tracks the ball well down the field. He's really good with just you know, with late hands. See guys put their hands up early and get themselves in trouble with pass breakups. He's really just instinctive and natural feel to it. And my comparison was his former teammate in Jackson Smith and Jigba same school. So I'm really excited about him. I think he's ready to go. Those two receivers have played at such a high level for so long. Can't do it forever, Greg, and I'm excited to see this next wave of guys they have, and he's going to be the leader of the class.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a single rookie in the entire NFL that has more uniformly that have praised preseason camp reports in him. And I think it starts with Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was on.

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Speaker 1: I forget which podcast it was. I think it was Busting the Boys, and they know it was. It was New Heights and yeah, they asked him about camp and like, unprompted, he just said, Buka is such a dog.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited to play with him.

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Speaker 1: He's so smart, he's so physical, and it was just an open ended question about anything that stood out to me, and he was just like, I can't believe we got to add this guy to what is already a really good room, which by the way, has a nice young player and Jalen McMillan who played really well late last year's touchdowns. When Godwin gets healthy, he's the four. Like that, that's what you want. You have a good tight end. Kate Atton too, like they they're they're cooking with gas. To me, I think they are right there behind the Eagles as as like in the Lions are in that group too, with as the favorites in the NFC.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just he's a really good player. And if you look at receivers are going to make an impact right away. It's the guys who are smart, like you start first there. If you can't learn it, you're not going to be able to either be able to swallow all the information to get on the field, or when you're on the field, you're not going to play fast because you're trying to process and think through all this stuff. The smart guys tend to have an immediate impact because they can they can play at full speed.

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Speaker 4: So that's that's a BUKA.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why these types of guys tend to fall in the draft. It's like the receiver that just you know, does everything well but isn't like quite as exciting, and there's so much uncertainty in the NFL draft that and I know even these players sometimes don't work out, but he just seemed like worst case scenario, he's going to help a lot.

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: And the com you know, for him, other than Jackson Smith and JIGGBA, could be Chris Godwin and that's going to be my second guy mentioned. So we're going really bucks heavy here. But I just thought it was worthwhile to point out that he had options to leave, and so to me, he was a free agency signing because we heard the offers that he was getting. The Patriots were reportedly willing to go much higher on Chris Godwin, and there were other teams I think that were going to give more. Tampa Bay came up. They're paying him twenty two million dollars a year. It was a great story of a team really earning a player's trust and vice versa. Because he's coming off a really serious injury for the second time in his career, he's a little older, and I think with ag Buka, to kind of connect the two, they can be a little more conservative with his recovery now DJ because he doesn't have to go into the lineup right away and it does not sound like he's going to be ready for the start of the season.

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Speaker 3: To me, no, he's playoff. I mean to me, his value is let's just let's get to the meaningful games at the end of the year. Let's get him to the postseason. I don't think they necessarily need him, which is a nice luxury to have. But all the different guys you mentioned, including an underrated tight end in Aught and so to me, take your time, absolutely no rush whatsoever to get him back out there right.

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Speaker 1: And the reason I went Bucks heavy was just all right, prove me wrong. Rest of NFC South. When I'm thinking of impact players, I'm thinking it was going to really matter in some big primetime games late in the season, in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I think the Bucks are going to be in those games.

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Speaker 1: And so that's why to me, Reddick and Godwin really stuck out. But maybe maybe the Falcons, maybe the Saints, maybe the Panthers will prove us wrong and they'll they'll be in that mix too. Like that, I'll just throw one thing at you, like, which which of those three teams you know, do you think has the best chance to make the playoffs other.

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Speaker 2: Than the Bucks.

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Speaker 3: That's too early for Carolina. I would say, you know, Atlanta is there's a lot of talent there. I would probably I'm probably going to lead towards Atlanta on that one.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's feel the enthusiasm Falcons fans.

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Speaker 4: I mean inspired up.

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Speaker 3: No, I you know, I don't think they'll do anything when they get there, but I could see them pushing forward. And every time I talk about that, didn't they sweep the Bucks last year? Did Atlanta beat them twice?

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Speaker 5: A Falcony, Yeah, yeah they did. They had that Curry. I'm just not yards I can't. I'm just not enthusiastic about them, and I can't fake it. So they you know, they always come out, hey we swept them. We're right there. Okay, all right, well you did. I can't. I can't refute that. I just don't share quite as much of the optimistic view there. So, and the Saints are Saints are not gonna be good. So, but again, Falcons are the best of that group. To me, I was just looking this up. I didn't have a chance to pull this final number. But the I'm putting these two guys together, the two first round edge rushers for the Atlanta Falcons and Walker and Pierce, So I think both these guys are really, really talented. Last year, the Falcons had thirty one sacks. I was curious to see. I don't think Walker and Pierce get to that thirty one, but they came close to putting a den in that with what they did in college last year, just compared to what they've had. And we've been begging them to take a pass rusher forever. Every year we think they're going to do it, and they never do.

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Speaker 3: And this year they actually did it, and then they came back and got another one, so they paid a steep price to do it. But I'm fascinated to see these guys who had a lot of speed and athleticism to go along with guys that know how to rush.

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Speaker 4: So they'll be there'll be guys.

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Speaker 3: I'm definitely keeping an eye on this year to see how quickly they get integrated in how they use them.

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Speaker 1: So far, the reports are there's been ups, there's been downs. I don't think anything is stuck out. Like Jalen Walker sounds like a guy he's got a show that he can play on the base downs and maybe maybe he'll be ahead there, but he has more to learn in terms of the pass rush, whereas Pierce has got that juice and you could see it in the preseason them kind of setting him up where they got three guys on one side trying to create havoc and Walker is one of them, and then Pierce is all one on one on the other side. It's almost like they're setting up Pierce to make that draft pick look good.

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Speaker 2: It's got to look good DJ and they gave up a first round I know.

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Speaker 3: I know that's again add that into the intrigue here of what that looks like for this team, but I can't. I can't blame them on I thought they got tremendous value on Walker and everybody's been begging them to do something and they hammered it. They doubled down on it. So this is an important year for them. That pick is a top five pick, and that goes down as an awful trade, so they need to have a good year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean even top ten is questionable. Now, I Pierce is a great player, then no one's gonna complain. But it kind of reminds me of Marcus Davenport in New Orleans. Yeah, we always got trade stuck with that. We paid two first for Marcus Davenport and he got hurt a lot. But if he hadn't been hurt as much, big if like, he was actually a totally solid first round player, but people thought of him as two firsts because that's what they gave up for him.

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Speaker 2: It's not really his fault. And James Pearce is going to be that player for the Falcons.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to pick my enthusiasm up right now. I just feel myself I got to get more excited about this this NFC self.

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Speaker 4: So it's a challenge to myself. Youve got to coach yourself up sometimes. So are you up? Now? Are you up next?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I thought you were firing yourself up.

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Speaker 4: Maybe just going to coffee. You just get a little more coffee here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I will not go with a falcon by by the way, I guess since since we're here, I'll just bring this up. You're not on this show for me. You didn't make any moves. What are you gonna You know, it's a little weird. Actually it's actually a rebinder to make a real point about it. This regime has been there for a minute. They made a lot of moves last year, like they got it. This is kind of a go time year. They're they're saying they like this roster, at least in terms of adding veterans like Leonard Floyd or or Kirk took all the money. That's part of it too. So I got no falcons. I do have a couple of panthers, and I'll give you one here. Trevon Morigg is a Mike Mayak special. You know we love mentioning Mike Mayak on this show. Drafted back with the Raiders the Number one Guy DJ, where I send out a rough draft of my top one hundred and one free agents to a few people in the league or smart smart writers analysts. I should do it to you, but I just figure like, you're kind of busy, you don't need you don't need any more extra work. Morigg, who I had pretty low on my initial rough draft, I got back more than any other person, like, oh, you got to move him up.

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Speaker 2: He's a good player. He's got to get more than you think.

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Speaker 1: He's maybe the best safety that's available in this class.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, Okay, I'm gonna listen to you all.

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Speaker 1: And they made me look smart because he got a lot of money and he's going to try to upgrade this Carolina secondary.

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Speaker 3: So if you go back to that draft, they took Alex Leatherwood with the seventeenth pick and Married with the forty third pick. And I remember on draft nights saying, because there was a lot of criticism about the Leatherwood pick, but I said, if they would have just flipped those Married to me was a first round player who fell, and Leatherwood was a second round player or a third round player, one of the two who got pushed up. So to me, it's kind of where you were picked. But I thought he should have been picked as a first round player. And if he just had that background of as a first round pick, the way he's played, especially as of late, we would be talking about him a lot more as one of the better better not just young states, one of the better safeties played really well.

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Speaker 2: It's a good point on attention.

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Speaker 1: Like guys who get taken later, not only do they tend to suffer in terms of contract renegotiations. Although more got all the way to free agency and then he got paid well, like he really did get top safety.

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Speaker 4: It kills him in awards, it kills him in Pro Bowls and all prices and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and partly it's because, Yeah, it's hard for the national media out here. I do my best, but to follow all thirty two teams. I mean sometimes you see some of these all pro votes. I was doing some research on Justin Fields earlier this week and I learned, I don't know if you're aware of this, TEJ that Justin Field's got a fifth place MVP vote a few years back when the Bears and I had to go check. I was like, was that the year he had all the Russian years. Yeah, yeah, okay, they went three and fourteen that year. Someone who should have their vote taken away voted him fifth for MVP. So not everyone is covering the league really completely, or people are just homers.

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Speaker 3: I just know we going to all this, you know, all the stats and analytics and all this formula. We've got all this stuff. I think you're you're gonna end up losing your vote.

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Speaker 4: Greg. This thing's gonna end up being computerized.

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Speaker 2: I want it. I've been pushing. I deserve a vote.

00:15:09
Speaker 1: Todd Brady and Teddy Bruski voting for Joe Toney Offensive Player of the Year last year because it was his teammates take.

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Speaker 3: There, So do you you do not have a vote then no, No, for some reason, I thought you did him a vote.

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Speaker 2: I'm not allowed.

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Speaker 1: I believe as anflo that's right. You're right, and maybe that's Hall of Fame. They wouldn't they wouldn't give it to me. To make one last point on the Panthers and more. Actually, I'll come bind my next one. Tashaun Warton is a defensive tackle that they signed, and I can talk about him a little if you want, DJ, but my overall point is this Panthers defense needs to get a lot better. There's a lot of believers in the league. I know you know this that a Giro Everro is a good coach, but they were not a good defense a year ago, and Panthers fans will say, look, if we can just improve the average on defense, this team.

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Speaker 2: Could be pretty frisky in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: I remember talking to somebody there in that building before the season and it was like, we got a great corner and a great defensive tackle, and then he's just like outside of that, like we're we're trying to piece this thing together at this point in time. So yeah, a lot of moves were made there, and we'll see how that defense comes together. They are gonna be fun offensively. Can that get me to my next one here?

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Speaker 1: No, I want to say one nice thing about Tashaun Wharton because I think the average fan is like, who is just to Shawn Warton? He got paid a lot of money. First of all, he was kind of the backup plant to Milton Williams. But he reminds me he thought they were.

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Speaker 4: Getting Milton Williams. They thought that was done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they did, and that's that's disappointing for them, but Warton is a guy, and I gotta admit I watched more of the like the playoff film, because you have more time, there's less games. Warren popped throughout all last year's playoffs, kind of like Milton Williams, like he is a big boy who can move people around. And they have some big guys there upfront. Derek Brown, who you alluded to their defensive tackle is outstanding, and then they brought in Patrick Jones from Minnesota, Bobby Brown from a Shawn Robinson. These aren't household names, but just a lot of big defensive lineman that if nothing else, can help them stop the run, which.

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Speaker 2: Was disastrous a year ago. So Warren just keep an eye on him. If this defense gets good, they could be a very frisky team this year.

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Speaker 3: We'll see how they do. I go to the other side of the ball with them for my next one because their first round pick and Tetoa does not like tet I've been told numerous times, So Tetoro, McMillan, T mac He's okay with t Max, So you can go that route. But you've already seen early in the preseason. Bryce likes throwing in the ball. He gives them some catch radius in room for air down the field, so you're gonna be able to just put some balls up and trust that he can go up there and get them. I still have some concerns just with press, like how he's going to do against physical press coverage. I'm sure he's going to see a lot of that early on to prove he can handle that. Not going to wow you with separation down the field, but someone who can who can win and tight aras and with Bryce, he's someone who's comfortable in his accuracy, in his touch and saying I'll give you a chance, man, go go make a play for me.

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Speaker 4: And I think he'll give him those opportunities.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of that wide receiver room in general? I know you you weren't low on McMillan. I got twenty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he just wasn't all the way up there. And that was there was some urgency concerns with me, Like I just didn't think he always dialed it up, and I thought there was some some loafs. And I didn't think he necessarily played to his size, like he is a big guy, and I don't think he necessarily played quite as physical as that. He's just got unbelievable body control and the ability to make contested catches. But to me at the line of scrimmage was a concern and some of the urgents and stuff. Yeah, he was concerned.

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Speaker 1: You had him behind Golden, But then again, you had him in the top twenty receivers I mean twenty players Flowers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, in a draft that's kind of that's totally normal to have guys in that range go where he went.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a weird room. So it's him, It's Get, It's Adam Thielen, who still can play. It's Hunter ren for who looks pretty good. Jalen Cooker is a young guy who made some place one thing with McMillan. They drafted Terrace Marshall pretty high. I know this wasn't the same regime they drafted Lagette pretty high.

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Speaker 2: Those guys.

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Speaker 1: Didn't show up right away and practice in preseason and camp and everything and kind of just stamp themselves out like, hey, I'm a starter.

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Speaker 2: We're counting on you everything.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not perfect, but we we like what we see like right away, and it seems like McMillan has like they are counting on him a lot.

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Speaker 4: I think he's, guys, just a better football player than those guys.

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Speaker 3: Those guys were, you know, in Lagett's case, a little bit tight, but height, weight, speed, a little bit raw. Marshall just you know, wasn't a featured player there in the group. He was at at LSU. So you know, this is a more accomplished player. It's the better, better football player who I think will have an impact.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So that is that is our Panthers section of the Showdy Saints fan, It's well, we'll talk about you after the break. We are back on forties and free agents, and it's Daniel Jeremiah's favorite division, the NFC.

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Speaker 2: Sath you are up, my friend for an impact rookie.

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Speaker 3: Well, you got a chance to see this guy live week one, I guess right, not the I did Hall of Fame game, so yeah, the second game for me, but week one of the preseason. Tyler Shuck, quarterback for the New Orleans Saints, played well in the game we were at. Greg had a pick six in that you don't want to see that, but I thought he bounced back well screen game.

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Speaker 4: He was comfortable with that.

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Speaker 3: Callum Moor did a good job of kind of giving him some controllable plays, got him on the move a little bit. He's big, he can move around, he's got a live arm. There's gonna be to me. I think it's a it's kind of funny because he's a more athletic version to me of Jamis. But there's like, there's there's a chance he could be a strong double agent. He could run up both sides of the scoreboards. I think he's, uh, that's the type of player he could be.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting because you know, when Jamis was coming out and even young in his career, he got a lot of credit for being able to see the field really well, being able to anticipate, being able to read defenses. Now he couldn't help himself being too aggressive, but you know, he got a lot of credit for, you know, having the whole picture. Peyton Manning would talk up Jameis Winston and his you know, intellectual skills. Do you see Tyler shuck like that in terms of being able to kind of go through his progressions and see the field like that.

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Speaker 3: I think he's highly highly intelligent. I think I got to see more at the NFL level in terms of asking him to read the full field and do all that stuff. But I mean, I'm just pull up my notes on him. He's he's uh, he's got four degrees greg, he's twenty five years old. He's big and sturdy and strong. He can drive the ball. He does get to number three. I've got that my notes. So I have seen him get the number three in progressions, which is good, make some big off balance throws. There's times where I think pocket feel and awareness is a little bit of an issue at times. So we'll see how he does there. But gosh, the guy's in some almost sixty five two and twenty pounds. He ran four to sixty three like he's he is a big athletic guy who can make some big time throws. It's just I think there's gonna be there's gonna be some to really use a current reference. There's gonna be some big bucks and there's gonna be some whammies.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

00:22:32
Speaker 4: I like to keep my references a good thirty five years old, Like do I like to that?

00:22:36
Speaker 2: Is? That is a reference. It took me a second to register. But press my luck? Is it?

00:22:41
Speaker 4: Press your very well done? Something like that?

00:22:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, you don't know Gremlin, the Little Grimlin on there Boo boo boo, boo poop.

00:22:48
Speaker 1: I once had a job which I think you would have appreciated. I worked for a show called Most Outrageous Game Show Moments four and.

00:22:57
Speaker 2: Five, I believe.

00:22:59
Speaker 1: And my job was to just watch old game shows all day long, looking for outrageous moments, ten hours a day DJ for weeks at a time.

00:23:12
Speaker 2: People think that's a great job. It gets old pretty fast.

00:23:16
Speaker 4: What was what was the most likely show to deliver good content?

00:23:21
Speaker 1: The best show by far, and the most likely show was the Ices match Game Game Match Game.

00:23:27
Speaker 2: They were drunk. It was fun. I'll ride for match game.

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Speaker 4: There was a lot of scrabble, a lot of was it Brian Billock on Match Game?

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Speaker 2: I believe?

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Speaker 1: So we would have some old celebrities. But this is this is what I did right out of college. Yeah, you mentioned Chuck four degrees? Do you know what the degrees are in? That's insane my head. He went to college for eleven, fifteen, seventeen years. The progress, by the way, for him is exactly what you want out of a rookie quarterback that starts slow like it reportedly was not good that there actually was quite a bit of separation between him and Spencer Ratler, just in terms of being able to run the offense. And every week, every practice you saw it in the preseason, you hear that I.

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Speaker 2: Was Chuck's best practice. That was chuckspecks precice.

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Speaker 1: And it's getting better and better and he's getting more and more comfortable. So we'll see he's the guy you would think they want to win that job. I have Justin Reid for the Saints as a good pickup. We know he's got the job. He had the job even before Honey Badger retired. If you remember, Honey Badger retired right at the start of training camp and then they brought in Julian Blackman. This team, it's a weird build. They are definitely a veteran team for the most part. On defense, you know you have Cam Jordan Granderson and to Mario Davis and Pete Warner and you talk to people there and Brandon Staley. With Justin Reid, I think the entire team is already looking at him as a leader and a guy who in that defense is going to help get that secondary set. And if this team has any pass to be competitive this year, it is through that defense, and I've always thought he's an underrated player one a couple of Super Bowl, has been to another and has helped every team that he's been on, and at the excitement level for him, I know inside that building among the players and the coaches is very high. They are very happy with who they have and justin read the safety.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look to me, he's a dependable, reliable player. When I look at this defense on a hole though, I just you know, age wise, up front and impact wise, what are you going to get? Percie's is a good player. I just when I when I look at their group at this point in time or where these guys are in their careers, you know, with Chase Young again solid, but I don't see anybody and Cam was that guy forever. But I don't see kool Aid.

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Speaker 2: Kool Aid's getting a lot of pop. No, kool Aid's done.

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Speaker 4: Well in the second. But I'm just talking about the front.

00:25:54
Speaker 3: And I used to have to work on the advanced scouting reports when you're playing a team and we would kind of just highlight the guy. He's like, Hey, you don't want this guy to beat you? Like this guy that is going to demand extra attention. Who is that guy on that? On that front, I don't know that they have one.

00:26:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd probably be Brissie if he took a big jump, that would be your best hope.

00:26:15
Speaker 2: But you're you're right, it solid player.

00:26:17
Speaker 4: I just don't think you have to game plan around anybody on that.

00:26:19
Speaker 2: On that front, it's it's yeah, but it's Brandon Staley, your old guy's revenge.

00:26:23
Speaker 3: You know, he's I think he's going to try and not give up big plays and just you know, try and try and have a slow bleed there.

00:26:31
Speaker 1: I do want to point out you said I got to see Schuck in person, and that was through your largess. You know, he gives me all this grief here on the show. And then when he hears that I'm going to a Charger Saints game with my son, He's a good human.

00:26:46
Speaker 2: Dan. The first thing he does, he's like, oh, you can have my tickets.

00:26:50
Speaker 1: You can take my Chargers and employee tickets, Sit nice and comfortable and enjoy some preseason action.

00:26:56
Speaker 2: So I think I thank you for that.

00:26:57
Speaker 4: DJ.

00:26:58
Speaker 2: We got a new favorite player.

00:27:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, Marlo Axe, Baby, let's go the Uh there's two options. How you look at that whole situation.

00:27:08
Speaker 4: Greg.

00:27:08
Speaker 3: Number one, I'm an underrated good friend to you and looking out for you and wanted you and your son to have a wonderful evening. Number two, Trying to convince anybody in my family that it's worth driving from San Diego to Sofar to watch the Saints quarterback competition unfold wasn't an easy sell.

00:27:29
Speaker 2: That's why partly we wanted to go.

00:27:31
Speaker 1: You know, my son loves ball and they wanted to see some relevant action, whereas like the Rams and the Chargers, they're just throwing out backups. But the Chargers are more interesting. They got they got Trey Lance. I would marl parents out there. Yes that first of all, preseason's underrated because it's just a little more chill.

00:27:47
Speaker 2: It's like good for kids, you know, the regular season.

00:27:49
Speaker 4: Get the get them a pretzel and everyone's drunk.

00:27:52
Speaker 1: If you want to leave early, you don't feel bad about it, and then you can find underrated gems. And I know we're in the the NFC South and we're way off track here, but what was his.

00:28:02
Speaker 4: Name, Marlow Wax. Yes, he was so good in that game.

00:28:05
Speaker 1: We left that game saying Marlo Wax, my son without me saying a word is my new favorite player, number fifty eight.

00:28:12
Speaker 2: So watch out for Wax for the Chargers. There's a tip the wild card time. Sure, go for it.

00:28:19
Speaker 3: I'm going to go to the same team and I'm going to go Princely Uman me Yellen and I probably messed that up.

00:28:24
Speaker 2: I think that's very slow and uncomfortable, but yeah, you're right.

00:28:29
Speaker 4: The best is at the Senior Bowl.

00:28:31
Speaker 3: He they were doing it after practice, like one on ones where they would highlight a couple of guys, and he goes. Coach goes there, we have him miked up. So he goes over to Princely and he's like, hey, what's your last name? He goes Uman Meellen, and he goes what he says it again, he goes all right in this one on one, uh, Prince and he is not even not even going to take a swing of that thing.

00:28:54
Speaker 1: That's what you guys let as broadcasters to. He's gotten a little pop in the in the preseason reports.

00:28:59
Speaker 3: I think he's wearing is he were in thirty three? I watched I watched his playtime and took a peek at him. I have to go back and double check, but I think he was the one that I was watching that. Yeah, he was, Yeah, Larry Bird, Larry Ledge.

00:29:11
Speaker 4: I kind of like that.

00:29:12
Speaker 3: He's long and lean and that thirty three actually kind of look kind of cool on him coming off the edge.

00:29:18
Speaker 1: But I guess someone, yeah, numbers meetings anymore? Did don't we want numbers to have meetings?

00:29:23
Speaker 2: It's confusing.

00:29:24
Speaker 3: No, he looks like Kareem abdul Jabbar coming off the edge. Dude, I absolutely am a fan of that. But long athletic, he can win high side, so he wins at the top of rushes. He's got a good feel for like risk control. You'll see him just latch onto guys get their hands off him. He can really close and cover ground. I'm telling you, if you just watched he's not a real power guy. That's kind of the knock on him. But if you if I put together twenty five play highlights on everybody in the draft and you just watch like his twenty five best plays, you'd like that guy might be a top ten pick. Like he's got some freaky stuff to him. So we'll see how that all comes together. But again, I think with him and Scorton, I'm those two young guys to watch the all.

00:30:01
Speaker 1: Right, I think we're a little higher on the Panthers defense. Maybe with all these additions, then I expect the kind.

00:30:06
Speaker 4: Of talking myself and the thinking the Panthers might be decent on defense right now.

00:30:10
Speaker 2: I think so.

00:30:10
Speaker 1: In Canal says that Pete Carroll vibe of like getting everyone on the same page and certainly turned them around by the end of last year in the offense. I'm excited. I'm also excited that my guy, Teddy Bridgewater is back in the league. That's my wild card.

00:30:25
Speaker 4: I just hope that's Coach Bridgewater to you.

00:30:28
Speaker 2: Hey, he goes, he.

00:30:30
Speaker 1: Wins a state championship for his high school, and then he comes back into the NFL. I mean he was back in it at the end of last year too with the Detroit Lions. And I'm saying this with a tongue in cheek because I think he's, you know, an underrated always a good you know.

00:30:46
Speaker 2: Story and good player. But hey, if Baker.

00:30:50
Speaker 1: Mayfield misses a game or two, this is a team that I've said I think can compete for the Super Bowl. So can Teddy Bridgewater keep them competitive for a few games while Theaker Mayfield is out? So you know, if it's not like a long term injury. I'm assuming he gets the backup job over Kyle Trask. Give me some Teddy Bridgewater back in my life in twenty twenty five.

00:31:09
Speaker 3: So we always talk about comps, right, and you you know they always like us. You know, I don't get any pressure to this, but it's always with scouts. We always challenge ourselves to do the cross racial line comps. Yeah, that you don't just compare every white slot receiver to Edelman or whatever. So I was thinking of who I would want to play Teddy Bridgewater in the Teddy Bridgewater movie. I'm gonna go Dennis Quaid. I'm gonna go Dennis Quaid because he was in some baseball movie where he was like a thirty five year old who then ended up going and making his way into the major leagues. Like had a whole separate life. Teddy was done with football, had a whole separate life when I won a championship as a coach, and now he's coming back. So I'm gonna have We're gonnat dennisque might be a little old to play this, but that's my that's my pick to play Teddy Bridgewater in a Bridgewater movie.

00:31:55
Speaker 1: I think that's a little confusing, maybe problematic. I'm not sure, but I like the idea of that that was who played.

00:32:06
Speaker 2: Actors.

00:32:06
Speaker 1: Is maybe Teddy of quarterbacks underrated, like a higher success rate than you realize. He shows up, You're happy to see him there. Uh, and so that's where you have a.

00:32:17
Speaker 3: Weird does I don't know if Teddy Bridgewater has a brother who went off the reservation moved to Canada.

00:32:22
Speaker 1: But uh, I mean, there's always you this you really you know, I make a joke about the dad jokes, but we're the same age, and yet your references are always way old.

00:32:33
Speaker 3: I'm the youngest of four. I'm the youngest of four. So like I love like, you know, eighties and early nineties music. I was class of ninety six, but I still like a lot because I was the guy who my brother's seven years older than me. I was riding around his Ford Ranger truck. Uh, you know, as a kid. So that was the stuff that I that I dug.

00:32:51
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's why you're super into Randy Quaid and shot.

00:32:56
Speaker 4: Big Big the Pop, Big little, big little House on the Prairie.

00:32:59
Speaker 1: Guy.

00:33:00
Speaker 4: I mean, who doesn't love Perry Mason.

00:33:03
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, we're one year apart. I'm watching, you know, MTV a little at least said somewhat.

00:33:10
Speaker 3: By the way, By the way, Tyler Schuck to rewind criminal science and polysci from Oregon at Texas Tech Masters and interdisciplinary Studies at Louisville.

00:33:21
Speaker 4: We're still efforting to get that information. But he did collect a degree there.

00:33:24
Speaker 1: So interdisciplinary studies that this is not an a little vague. I feel like, hey, you just need to go to school and you got to do something.

00:33:32
Speaker 4: But what did you major?

00:33:34
Speaker 1: I was a political science major. Tu Lane didn't offer communications. I really did want to go into broadcasting, but they didn't have it, but they gave me a little scholarship, so I went there anyways, and so I took poly Sci.

00:33:46
Speaker 4: I regretted it.

00:33:48
Speaker 3: All right, Well, criminal science and in polyscience. I mean, Shuck's got one of your degrees, so he's already got that one in the back pony.

00:33:57
Speaker 1: And so as we wrapped this up, I don't even need to ask what DJ major did. App state it was just just football. That's what DJ major did. And we'll be back next week.

00:34:06
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00:34:25
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00:34:42
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