All-Star Logan Webb & Infield coach Ron Washington @Giants Camp

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Speaker 1: We got the infield coach, Ron Washington, the legendary man himself, joining us right now here in Scottsdale Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having us.

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Speaker 3: I thank you guys for having me on.

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Speaker 4: It's so great to see Wash really appreciate the time as always.

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Speaker 5: So what do you got for us? I mean, what's this team like?

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Speaker 6: Tell us?

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Speaker 5: I mean there's a lot of uniqueness here with some of the personnel and then even the manager of course, who we'll have on the show later in Tony Bytello.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'll tell you what we were coming together. We've been working well and Tony's making certain that we pay attention to the details of the fundamentals, you know, especially trying to be better on the base pads, you know, trying to make certain that we know where we're supposed to be doing the fundamentals and what it's going to take to do it on a daily basis.

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Speaker 3: He's on top of everything.

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Speaker 7: So we've been having a lot of fun because the guy's been out there getting after it.

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Speaker 2: Wa Wash.

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Speaker 8: Do you think players now don't know the fundamentals as well as they should because we always went over fundamentals, But it was like spring training was like Oh yeah, I kind of. You know, you just got to like set that in so that you do all little things great for one hundred and sixty two games. But do you think kids just don't know it as well because of how travel ball and everything is coming into pro ball.

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Speaker 7: Yep, I think that has something to do with it. But I think even though we are the major league team, you still have to go over it every day as if you don't know it, you think about it. These guys have had two and a half three four months off, so we got to get back in the groove. So and the way you get back in the groove is to pound the fundamentals every single day because that's what you're going to rely on during the course of a season that'll take you through six months. So I love that Tony got us out there going through the fundamentals every single day.

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Speaker 3: And guess that's what he's right in the middle of everything.

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Speaker 2: Well, I love hearing that.

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Speaker 1: If anybody doesn't know, I don't even know if Wash remembers, but I got to experience playing a little bit with you in Atlanta in twenty twenty one. I wish I would have gotten to be under you earlier. In the sense of the fundamentals that you just spoke of. You really are out there every single morning with that knee down on a glove, firing those ground balls of people, and you're just making everybody better. How is that transition to you got Devers now kind of switching positions, going to first base, you finally get to be with him.

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Speaker 2: How's he looking so far?

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Speaker 7: Well, he's looking like you just described me. He's out there every morning on his knees doing the same thing you just described. And that's what it's about. You know, you can be as good as you can be when you a teacher, a mentor or something like that, but if your pupils don't follow the orders that you're putting out. And I'm not mean orders where you being strict to anything like that. I'm talking about the consistency of how you go about your business every so you can bring that consistency into the game. Well, they're doing that right now, and our job is to make sure that it's not just right now.

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Speaker 3: It's day in and day out.

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Speaker 7: And you just mentioned Atlanta in twenty one that's what we did. Yeah, I mean it was every day we didn't get off to the greatest of starts, but we never stopped trying to find out a game. And this is where you find you gain right here in spring training and then take it through the season and stay on top of it all year.

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Speaker 2: Loon.

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Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I think you made me a better infielder just by the last year of my career. And I would have wish I would have got you a little bit earlier in my career. The problem is, you made that Atlanta infield a little bit better too, And everybody's hamstrings and hands were ready for one hundred and sixty two game season, and I never got to get up to the big league team because they were too damn good, because you made them too damn good.

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Speaker 3: Well, they were already good.

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Speaker 7: They were already good, but they all I did is make sure that they got to work. And the beautiful thing about it all is I think that year the whole infield went at.

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Speaker 1: All Star Game thirty and one hundred. I think all of them, yes, I mean, but I guarantee you ask any of them, You're the first name they mentioned when they think of who got them right that year, who got them ready to play for that Well.

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Speaker 7: That's because we did it together, and that's what it's about. I demanded that they be tough and put in the time every single day, and they demanded from me that I be there and make sure that they do what they're supposed to do. And that's what teams that win does get the demanding out of each other. So it was wonderful and I'm hoping that we end up doing that right here because so far it's been wonderful. It really has the.

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Speaker 8: Right side of your infield. There's gonna be two guys that haven't played that position very much, Luis rise at second, Rafie Devers at first. However the alignment ends up working out. What do you see from these guys? One positive thing that you see from them and one thing that okay, like this is going to be the next step. If they can handle if they can do this, they can fix this, then they're going to be good at this position.

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Speaker 7: Well, one positive thing I got is their work ethic. They diligent in a way they come and go about their business. The next thing is they are trying to bring everyone around them along with them. So and that's what it's gonna take all of us together. And they're also doing that everything that they think of can add to what we're doing.

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Speaker 3: They're out front adding it, and.

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Speaker 7: Like I say, their work ethic is off the charts right now, and I'll be very impressed if we can keep that work ethic going throughout the year, because that's what keeps the team going.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about it, we said, we were making jokes earlier. I remember from Atlanta. Do we have a swear jar here for you at all?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 7: I you know, I've sort of got that a little bit under control.

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Speaker 6: If they miss a couple, well, and I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't expect that. That's only to be human nature right there. If they do miss a couple, as long as they don't miss them daily, they can miss them every now and then. That just let me know a human. But if they start to missing them daily, then they will have to have a swear jar.

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Speaker 8: What what makes you swear more when somebody's late for when somebody's late for their prat for early work, when you're out on the field hitting them balls.

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Speaker 7: Or know what what makes me get to that point is when they don't show up period. Yeah, that's what gets me to that point because I starts with my morning to be prepared for them, and then when they disappoint me, I'm totally disappointed because, I mean, I'm hitting the floor at four o'clock in the morning and getting everything I have to do together so I can be out on the field that early in the morning and be ready when they show up. And when they don't show up, it upsets me. And maybe I don't have any reason to be upset, but I get upset because I'm competitive, even though I'm not between the lines.

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Speaker 1: You don't disappoint this man, I'll say that from experience. You get your butt out there in the morning. You don't keep this man waiting.

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Speaker 8: All right, Well, then that brings me my next question. Did you miss getting out there for them or getting up at four in the morning being the manager not being able to get out in the field to hit a couple of fungos to the boys? Did you miss it? And are you glad you're back to the back out on the field in this capacity?

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Speaker 7: I never got away from it, even though I was managing. I mean, my expertise is infield play, and I wouldn't be doing my team any justice even though I had an infield guy. If I wasn't out there going through the stuff with him, and that's what I did. I was making sure my infield guy was doing the right thing, and so in a way I was working for him and I let it go down like that that I was his helper, but he knew what I was out there for to make sure that the things that needed to be done got done and there was no corner's turn, you know. Cut Everything was done the way it was supposed to be done, even though when I was managing, I was doing the same thing.

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Speaker 5: Hey was wash, How are you feeling?

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Speaker 4: Obviously you know you went through a heart surgery last year looking sound fantastic, but how difficult has the past year been for you? I mean big league manager, drib as. You know it is a huge to do and you had to step away for a little bit. Can you take us through how you're feeling and how that whole process was because you know, however, it ended with the Angels too and landed you here.

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Speaker 7: Well, the thing is, I was disappointed because just as my issue hit me last year in June, I had my team going in the right direction. I had the attitude good, they was committed to what we was trying to do and then that came down, and then I had to watch it on TV, and to watch it on TV, I had to watch them just fall apart, and it wasn't I wouldn't say they fell apart because I wasn't there, but we fell apart, and I just felt like we was ready to whip some people's butt before I went down, and I made a difference in that clubhouse, and I made a difference on that team. You know, I'm not patting myself on the back, but I did make a difference, and I can see the difference wasn't there when I wasn't there, if that makes any sense. So you know, I'm enjoying myself here with the Giants. They took a chance on me and my health, and I'm not gonna let them down. I've been doing everything I can every single day to make sure that I can post post for the Giants, post for the players, post for Tony, and mainly post for myself.

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Speaker 8: Why do you feel like they didn't bring you back?

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Speaker 6: Wash?

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Speaker 7: You know, I think it was tough for them to trust my health. You know, nobody would say that, but I think it was tough for them to trust my health. And if I wouldn't have went down. I think I still be in Anaheim. But when I went down and I had a big option that they had to pick up, they didn't trust my health, and I have no problem with that.

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Speaker 3: They got right to feel that way.

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Speaker 5: M Hey, wash quick follow on that.

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Speaker 4: Because you've been in the game for a long time and you were just in that organization. Do you think it's fair after that that they gave Kurtzuzuki a one year deal? Like, if you were in that position as a manager, what could be the struggle there to make sure you're being your best self in front of players.

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Speaker 7: Well, the thing with Kurt, He's gonna always be hisself. That's who he is. I had him in Oakland, I had him a few places, and I like him. So you know, that's a tough situation to be in. But as you said, these managing jobs aren't that easy to get. And if you have to get it for a year to prove that he deserves it, I'll take it for a year.

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Speaker 3: And that's what he did.

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Speaker 7: I took on what I took on knowing the situation that was happening, and I felt like I could turn it around. And I'm more than certain Kurt think he can turn it around. The guys are a little older now, they're still young, but they're a little older.

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Speaker 3: They got a little bit more experience.

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Speaker 7: You can expect more out of them, you can demand more out of them, and you should get more out of them, even though you you.

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Speaker 3: Know they're still young.

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Speaker 7: So it's a good situation in the sense that he has a major league, big league managing job and it's nothing like it really isn't is nothing like.

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Speaker 8: Some of the best times in clubhouses are when you get to dress the rookies up. Now that you're the vet and you're I've never been in a coach's manager's office when it comes time to dress guys up. Will you be buying Tony Vattello some type of dress up or his rookie year as a manager.

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Speaker 7: No, that don't include the manager is the boss man. No, the manager is the boss man. You don't mess with him. You just do what he say, does what you do. That's what you do. You don't talk about dressing him up. No, no, never.

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Speaker 4: Plus, he's got the hangout spot. Wosh I heard he's got the hangout spot. He's got he's got the cool crib right.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 7: And I tell you he's a sharp guy and he'll he'll grow on you if you are around him. He really will. He knows a lot about the game of baseball. Even though he be a professional, he's still got a lot of knowledge and wisdom about the game of baseball.

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Speaker 4: Well, he's lucky to have you. He's a smart man to bring you in to help him with with year one.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 4: Wash, we really appreciate the time. It's good to see you in good health too. Thanks for joining us. Good luck this season.

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Speaker 7: Well, thank you, and I'm like I said, I will do everything i can to make sure I'm healthy through the whole one hundred and sixty two game season and what amount of games we play in the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: The game is better to have you here, So good luck.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Wash, thank you, Hey bye bye.

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Speaker 4: Logan web joining us right now from the Giants, Logan, great to have you on. Am I right on this one? This is just in the back of the head. Are you the last dude to hit a home run before the DHR started? Or am I totally off there?

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Speaker 6: If we don't count SHOWHOI, then yes.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we don't count sho.

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 6: That was it all, Dame.

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Speaker 2: That's a good tricky question.

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Speaker 6: No, I do it was no Bill Chris Mott with the PODCA that's it.

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Speaker 5: We're never going to see that again. We're not going back.

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Speaker 6: You know, you still have the ball.

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Speaker 9: Of course, it went right over you know, the little dog cut out left field?

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 1: Ten years never played in San Diego once, mean San Francisco, I think, said San Diego, you hit it?

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, no, san Diego.

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Speaker 1: Versano said okay, okay, yeah, Hey, first row or thirtieth row, they count all the same.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, So what do you got for us logan?

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Speaker 4: I mean one of the popular topics here is the manager coming in from the college ranks, got a veteran crew that he's going to manage. Like we just spoke to Ron Washington live on the show. Does it feel different? Is he kind of figuring himself out or because he's got a lot of swag and confidence, it just feels like he's another big league manager.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it feels very similar.

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Speaker 9: Say's a little more energy than some of the ones that I've had before, But I think that's a good thing. Uh, you know, it's something that we probably needed a little bit, especially kind of at the end of the season. Last year just seemed like we were kind of in a role, and I think Tony's a guy who will kind of mitigate that and make sure that kind of never happens. So I'm excited. It's been a fun camp so far. There's a ton of good energy. Obviously, it's a long season.

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Speaker 6: We all know that.

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Speaker 9: I think you know as players, if there's anything we can help him with, it's that is knowing that it's a long season.

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Speaker 8: That's a long season. But you're the one guy in that rotation that's like, ah, whatever, I'm just gonna be here the whole time. I'm just gonna do my thing. What does that look?

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Speaker 6: What does that look?

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Speaker 8: How does that look different compared to when you first broke in the league, This preparation for the season. I'm not even talking about WBC yet because that's new, but what does that look like for you differently because you're just a constant dude in the end of the year conversation for Cy Young Award.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think every off season is different. I mean, you guys know that you go into it, you're working on new stuff, this year that wasn't necessarily last year is kind of the cutter and the forced scene this year. For me, it's just kind of refining some things. But I think the more you throw, the more innings you throw, the more pitches you throw, the more you know your body, the more you know how to get prepared for a season. And I think in that too, you kind of learned different things to stay prepared. Maybe, uh, you know, I was with Verlander last year. He's been doing it for a was it twenty twenty first year, and that guy knows knows what he needs to do to be ready to throw throw in a season and to to throw each game. And I picked my I picked his brain as much as I could, so hopefully I can, you know, be a guy that that throws as long as he does. And he was wonderful to me, and like I said, you just I think my biggest thing with young guys is try to learn from the older guys as much as you can. See what they do position player wise. For us, like Chapman's a freaking stud. Go watch what he does every day, Go follow it his routine. Everyone's different. You're not gonna everyone's not gonna be the same. But I think those are good things to follow, and that for me, that's I've had so many good older guys that I've just like taken bits and pieces of throughout the years and it's helped me to this day, like figure out the routine that I need to to be ready to throw every fifth day.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna say, no matter how long you play, you always kind of can approach the game still as a rookie where you're never never done learning this game's never really done teaching. I think you've led the most inning since twenty twenty one. You led the league in strikeouts last year for the the NL, so you gotta feel confident going into this year.

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Speaker 2: But here comes the WBC.

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Speaker 1: What changes have you made kind of in prep going for the season not be pulled back certain bullpens or are you pushing forward to make sure you're ready for that?

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Speaker 9: To be honest, I feel like I haven't changed. I haven't changed anything, Honestly. I feel like I've kind of toned it back a little bit. You know, I was for some reason. There's there's like two bullpens in January every year where I throw harder than I will all season and exactly, and and I I made it a point to not do that this year, just knowing because I'm gonna have a little bit more adrenaline in in March than I'm used to. But at the same time, I I know it's not the same, But I get nervous for every start I make. You know, I pitching in these spring training games. Uh there's there's not many people in the in the stands. I get nervous for that. I get a ton of adrenaline for that. So I know it's gonna be different. I'm you know, I'm expecting it. I'm excited about it. In reality, it's three weeks before I throw something like that anyways, And and it's it's not as many pitches, it's not as you know, many innings. And you know, I got Dave Greschner there. He's gonna be our head trainer, absolute stud. So I think I'll have my routine kind of dialed into to know I can.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We're about to see those two seams at ninety eight miles an hour here for TUSA, the only two starts he's ever.

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Speaker 2: Going to hit that that Bilo, and it's.

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Speaker 6: Gonna be insane. You're talking about the wrong guy. You're talking about scenes right, Nope.

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Speaker 2: Talking about you hit Bilow in those two those two bullpens. I want those with the USA jersey on.

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Speaker 8: A lot of a lot's been made about the fact that school was going to make one start. Confirm you are making two starts, correct?

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Speaker 6: I am?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, And I feel like I got slacked for that too. But there's only seven games, right.

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Speaker 2: Riot slacks is only starting.

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Speaker 9: To Yeah, well that it came out and said we were throwing me and schemes were thrown two and there's my dad's a big like the wright.

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Speaker 1: Out leader of the NL and Paul Skins going multiple starts of a seven game series.

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Speaker 2: Let's just what kind of flack did you get? People?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what was the problem?

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Speaker 3: What for?

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Speaker 9: I don't I don't think they understand that it's only seven games. At the end of the day, it's only seven games. If I throw to Paul throws two and Scooble throws one, there's I could throw the other two.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and there's studs throwing those other games.

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Speaker 9: It's not like Lord, So it's uh yeah, I mean I'm gonna see it through. I don't know if I'll let Mark DeRosa kind of tell people what I'm throwing, but I know what I'm throwing.

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Speaker 6: I know I'll be starting both of them.

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Speaker 1: So now I want to get into a little of just what you were throwing, because I know I looked at one of the adjustments you made was kind of saving that that change up a little bit more right. Is that something you developed on your own as a philosophy or like kind of I'm gonna hide this and save this till two strikes?

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Speaker 2: Are you just reading hitter swings? Are you reading?

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Speaker 1: And is this your something else might come up where I might be a cutter inside on the hands or something to just kind of go as the season.

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Speaker 9: Goes, I you know, I the game nowadays there's so much information where I feel like I was getting to points of the season where, uh, you know, I go up there and face the lefty and it might now be a great matchup for me.

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Speaker 6: So I throw five straight changeups, and I.

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Speaker 9: Might throw a couple of good ones, and then that third one or fourth one, whatever it was, is the one I don't click or it doesn't click, and you know I'm giving up a base hit. So it was just kind of saving it for just having confidence in the other other stuff. I think Justin was a big helped me with that a lot last year.

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Speaker 2: If I face you and.

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Speaker 1: You threw five change ups in a row after I'm done running out my ground ball the first base, I would be.

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Speaker 2: Letting you hear it.

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Speaker 8: Gratcy what you got Logan All right now, you didn't tell us when you're gonna pitch. But you have to answer this question because I say it on the show all the time. I think you're one of the top five pitchers in the game. Where do you rank yourself in the top ten? If you if you, if you want to be humble, humble Larry today, where do you rank yourself of the top five starting rope pitch starting pitchers in the game?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I you know, I that's that's a hard question. I there's so many good pictures in baseball right now that that, you know, kind of go under the radar. I don't know if I would. I'm not going to be the one to rank myself.

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Speaker 2: Who do you think? Okay, let me fellow up on that.

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Speaker 1: Who do you think is one of one of a couple of the underrated pitchers who are just nasty that maybe don't get the public love or don't have the stats yet that back up how good they are.

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Speaker 9: I'll go with my probably my favorite one, with Brian Wu I do.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a stud. Yeah, I mean there's a ton of guys. I mean, I feel like I could keep.

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Speaker 9: I feel like Christopher Sanchez is a guy who I know he finished second and sy Young, but I feel like he kind of flies on the radar, like that's a six foot six lefty thrown ninety seven mile power sinkers happy to be on the couch. I don't think, Yeah, I don't think any hitter is excited to face that guy. I mean, I could go on Joe Ryan's one of my one of my guys. A ton of guys that I would all rank ahead of me.

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Speaker 1: Well, not anybody else would, But that's how good you've been.

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Speaker 8: What do you think is gonna happen? First, you challenging an ABS strike zone or a strike or ball call, or Patrick Bailey getting thrown out of a game because he didn't have any more challenges left.

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Speaker 6: Probably Patrick Bailey. I'm gonna keep.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna so our I think our first game, we had two pitchers challenge and they were ugly, like not even close. And so I think the next day we're like, all right, catchers are the only ones who can challenge here, you guys.

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Speaker 6: Yes we lost, all right, but I was gonna let him do that anyways.

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Speaker 9: You know, I think pictures, you're throwing the pitch, you're emotional, right three to two, you want the pitch, you know.

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Speaker 6: I think every pitcher's.

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Speaker 9: Has done this before, where you think it's a strike and then you go back and watch the video and it's like three balls out or three balls up, and yeah, So I think the best thing to do is kind of leave it to Patrick. I think he's I know I might be biased, but he probably knows his own better than any catcher in baseball.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean the number, the numbers would say it for sure. What is what do you think is going to be the toughest pitch? Because we have abs now for umpires and Patrick to call when you're throwing the sweeper, when you're running that ball left to right or right to left, because you throw both pitches that move in both directions.

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Speaker 9: I think for me, uh, I think in general, I think the fastball up is gonna be hard probably for me too, Like sometimes I'll throw the sinker up, you know, sometimes I think sometimes umpire gets maybe you know, I'm throwing it down most of the time, that throwing up, and I think that one will be hard just in general.

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Speaker 1: But I think you see the most fluctuation at the top of the zone because umpires haven't had to be that, because that pitchers haven't gone up there for so much as much as they are down on the zone and crassy. I think I'm gonna answer a little bit of that question with it depends which side of the catcher the umpire sets up on. I think kind of the opposite side that he sets up on might be the one that is harder for him to get right or to control, and that's gonna be challenged a little bit more, would you agree, I know.

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Speaker 8: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: As far as if they're way in with the lefty their way in with a righty, that slider will look different than the sinker down in a way to the lefty.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 8: So it's all up to Patrick. It's not up to you Logan.

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Speaker 6: No, Yeah, I'm gonna leave it up to him.

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Speaker 8: Every time I see you seem like, you're the same guy, you got the same grin on You're like always in the seventh eighth inning. What is your temperament after you don't have a good start, Is it a tough five days? Do you grind on it? Or are you like, oh, you know what, I'm freaking good, So I don't need to grind on this one too much longer.

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Speaker 3: I try to.

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Speaker 6: I try to get it out that night. Right. It's the old saying.

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Speaker 9: Right, you go in the shower, get it all out of you, and then you gotta get into the next day and just prepare for the next one.

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Speaker 6: But it depends sometimes, you know.

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Speaker 9: There's I think last year I had a seven e r A and the month of July, so uh, there's a lot of.

00:25:22
Speaker 6: Five days where you're not very happy with yourself.

00:25:25
Speaker 2: And I've had months like that.

00:25:27
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think.

00:25:29
Speaker 3: I think as as.

00:25:31
Speaker 9: Much as you can get over it, as fast as you can, I think, the better off you'll be. It's like the old saying, Like, you know, I think a lot of the best pictures I try to tell pictures this, A lot of the best pictures can switch it to the next pitch instead of the next that bat or the next inning, they.

00:25:46
Speaker 6: Kind of wash it off and ready for the next one.

00:25:52
Speaker 4: Logan last one for you. Do you hate the Dodgers? Respect the Dodgers, Like, what's your take? You know, as their division rabbit, you guys had or the Giants organization had a dynasty in the twenty first century, Dodgers have their own thing going on right now.

00:26:07
Speaker 5: What's your take on what you're seeing over there?

00:26:10
Speaker 4: Is you guys get to face them a lot, and you just saw them add on a few more big names this offseason.

00:26:15
Speaker 9: I I mean, I think it's it's great for I think it's great for baseball. I think, you know, I think I'm kind of supposed to hate them, right. Uh, you know, I play for the Giants. You know it's a great rivalry. But the stuff they're doing, I think they want to win, right, And I think that's if you're in any organization, I think that's the biggest thing, is you want them to want to win as well. And they've shown that they want their players to win, they want the organization to win. So I think it's you know, I think it's a good thing. You always want a villain, right, I think I think they've they've they've gotten that title, not in a not in a bad way either. I like, I enjoyed, you know, the competition. I like facing them. Sometimes I don't like facing them if they score six of me, which is again after the seventh, But I really enjoy you know, you want to compete against the best, and and uh, you know, I think that's like I said, I think it's good for baseball. You know, it's it's cool seeing you know, friends get paid. I know it's you kind of text me like, hey, why'd you sign there? Dude, But you're at the end of the day, you're you're excited for them. It's uh, you know, it's life changing. And you can never folto a guy for wanting to win.

00:27:24
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, hey, I'm with you. I mean, they've got something special going on right now. And yeah, we'll see, we'll see if you guys can give them a little run this year. I'm looking forward to seeing what this team's got to offer. And dude, it have a great time at the WBC. Everybody on on the U S side obviously rooting for you, so good luck. Appreciate the time, great to catch.

00:27:45
Speaker 3: Up with you.

00:27:46
Speaker 6: I appreciate you guys. Thanks for having me.

00:27:56
Speaker 4: Ron Washington's the best awesome to have him on live on FT. All right, let's get to bed MGM futures for the World Baseball Classic, which begins next week and.

00:28:05
Speaker 5: Will go over picks. So we did ticket yesterday, Kratz. Now let's move to handle and I did the one oh one or the four to one one for anyone that needed a little bit of help on what the difference is. This is where the big money's going USA.

00:28:17
Speaker 4: Thirty nine percent of the money being placed on the World Baseball Classic winner is on USA, and they're minus money.

00:28:25
Speaker 5: They're like one tennis. It's moved around a little bit something like that.

00:28:30
Speaker 4: Okay, dr is getting twenty four percent of the pie and then Venezuela at seventeen percent. You get much better odds with those two. Anything you can learn from the trendsier I.

00:28:41
Speaker 8: Mean the trends. I just feel like I feel like maybe people are taking it, and the number will show that people are taking it as all well, America, they gotta have the best team that you know, there's just so much going into this. When you get into the semi finals, it's one game elimination. You might not have the best It's not like they're gonna say, all right, one game elimination. We aren't know Scooba's only throwing one game. Maybe it doesn't line up that this person's gonna pitch to this lineup and you catch a game. That's what's so great about this and that's why it's so tough for me to go with the favorite in the US. If I'm putting money down, I'm with some of the public here where the Venezuela, the dr even Japan. I think we're getting plus three hundred earlier in the week. I didn't see it today, but to me where that's where the money is in this just because it is such a tough, tough tournament to win, and that's what we're picking here who wins.

00:29:39
Speaker 4: I think the key, also, Kip, is that the quote playoffs for the WBC start just about instantly, right. You have pool play for five seconds and then it's such a quick tournament and it's single elimination. We get enough variants in the postseason sometimes that if you now turn this into a winner take all, you know in the quarters, the semis and the finals, it's just really really putting you in a position to see an upset. And that's why for me, as much as the USA team looks really good, if I'm throwing money down on a winner, I'm not going there.

00:30:18
Speaker 1: It's especially I mean with these guys because a lot of times the veterans who are playing on Team USA are playing on all these teams. You build up to it, you build up to the major league season, and so you might be building up to that six seven innings to a full game right before the season starts. So you kind of want to get started a little sooner. You want to be on your game a little bit sooner, because like you guys are saying that, it's like if one team comes in is just offered, didn't get enough at bats, or isn't ready fully yet, they are very prone to an upset and that can happen very easily.

00:30:48
Speaker 2: So it is a little bit of a crapshoot. You hope the.

00:30:53
Speaker 1: Cream rises to the top fast, but there is no guarantee, especially in this format that the WBC has.

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