2026-05-19 KSR - Hour 1

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Speaker 2: Now here's Matt Jones. Welcome everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio, Tuesday, May the nineteenth. I'm Matt Jones here in Lexington, Kentucky. You can give a Seam mcclark's pumping Shop phone line. You got a celebrity in here today, so you're going to talk up to AM eight five nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven Avis an Auto Glass text machine seven seven two seven seven four five two five four In this edition sponsored by the T. J. Smith Loves called Tji'll make them pay. Peter Burns of the ESPN, the SEC network and sitting in his hat are sitting in his house with a backwards hat, which you know you're breaking my rule, Peter, But nevertheless, I very much appreciate you joining us.

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Speaker 4: What's the rule that I did not know?

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Speaker 2: I just I'll gotta be honest with you.

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Speaker 4: Of all the shows that I think would not have a dress code, call would be a it's not a dress it would be a left tackle one to one pick. I would imagine it.

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Speaker 2: Was No, it's just the backwards hat. I'm you know, I wonder about what is the final age of backward hat. We've had this debate over the years, but you rocket you look good in it, Like Dale Arnheart Junior, I think sometimes when guys my age do it, they can't do it. I think you can.

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Speaker 4: I think as a mary guy versus a single guy thing and as a single guy like and just got back from the gym too, and I'm like, this is the easiest way to do the whole headphone situation.

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Speaker 3: So got you?

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Speaker 2: I got a story? You are you are you? You're a single guy?

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Speaker 4: Right, single guy? Yes?

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Speaker 2: That's good? All right, Well, it's nice to have you in our ranks. Like everyone everyone on the show except except Drew. So Peter was very gracious to fill in. Peter, You've hosted this show before, but never with me, so I'm not forward to it today.

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Speaker 4: Well, and I freaked out too, because about two minutes before we go on air, I'm like, I look, I go and check my text message because it says, hey, you know, Peter Burn's gonna be hosting, and I'm like, and I think Matt said I'm gonna be hosting.

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Speaker 2: You're with me. You're with me, not that you don't have to do show prep.

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Speaker 4: This is always one of my favorite shows to do, and I did it a couple of years ago because it was like when I would do Levttard show, like you have a general idea of a rundown and then within two minutes you're just like.

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Speaker 2: It's off, And that's what this will be too. Wait, mean, do you so you I didn't know you hosted Levatard sometimes? Do you do that?

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Speaker 4: I did Levettard, Will Caine Show back when he was doing it, did Steven A. Smith's show. I did Greeney when when Greenberg did that deal where he would like like he had hours and did it like twice out of two years. So did that did fine? Bomb? So basically like I'm the I'm the guy that comes in the sixth man.

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Speaker 2: That's that's that's what can you do the show before me on Sunday mornings? Right? You you do with with With with Courtney Cronin, you do seven to ten. I'm always impressed. You know, you work during the week for the SEC network and you get up and do that seven am show on Sunday. That's got to be brutal. Ten am is brutal for me after a late Saturday night of UK football or basketball. How do you do seven am?

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Speaker 4: Meth basically? I mean I just just just a sprinkle of it, just just just dab it, just a trip.

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Speaker 2: It's fine, just a frip.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean the reason why I was, I mean, this is gosh. Now it's the second longest actually, it's the longest tenured now radio show on ESPN Radio.

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Speaker 2: That's I started at around eight. It's not my show is longer than your.

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Speaker 4: No, I didn't much show before you did.

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Speaker 2: Your ship, but you had to you had a different co host.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. It was always called the.

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Speaker 2: What's the longest what's the longest running show? A show that has the same two people or Peter with a different cod.

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Speaker 4: What was it the same name that the same name?

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Speaker 2: If it was the best.

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Speaker 4: Ever with Peter Burns, now I have gone. I had Katie, George, I had Marcus Spears, Booger, McFarland was with me.

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Speaker 2: A little sounds like you can't keep a co host where Byron and I stay together.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the part of mediocrity, y'all keep the whole boat together, rotating, rotating, me.

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Speaker 2: And I say that she's a pretty powerful group. By the way, you had Hayden, George, Booger, McFarland, and Marcus Spears.

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Speaker 4: So and think about this. This is the brilliance of why I was the what the last original anchor to be hired by the SEC network. And so that's great because I have staying power. But what I've realized is working with Booger, working with Marcus Ailey, Hartung Lor Rutledge, all of these people, is the fact that my mediocrity, you say, so like, I stay right there, that I'm basically Scott Skiles for Hardaway and Shack and so I make other people shine.

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Speaker 2: So you're gonna have a great show today. You work with you work with people, they become stars, correct, but then you stay.

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Speaker 4: Right where you are and I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. Dan Orlovsky did this show with me the first year and then he became a star and he was just gone.

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Speaker 4: So and guess who gave Orlowsky his first radio interview ever in media or as far as like for coming on the first Okay, no, no, not me. So this is a quick, funny story. So I get, I get the show. ESPN calls me and they say, hey, you're gonna get your own weekend show. What do you want to call it? Blah blah blah. We go through the thing, and so I get a producer and he's like, all right, who do you want to have? You know, hey, come out of the gates swinging. Who do you Nick, Saban Shack, whoever you want? Okay, you can have it. And I got Dan Orlovsky only because not because of where he's at right now. No, it was a friend of mine who he worked for a private jet company, and I wanted to use the private jet so I feel I felt like, hey, if I.

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Speaker 2: I might be out of the.

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Speaker 4: Jet company, so I I book or Loosky and the producers like, I like, what are you doing? Like this is the guy that ran out of the end zone for the Detroit that guy like I doesn't even do media, Like what the hell? And I'm like, buddy, I just need you to do me a solid here. So we have Orlosky on and when I tell you, Matt, it arguably was one of the worst interviews in the history of radio. Like he just didn't seem like interested wanted to be there, Like it just wasn't great. It was you know, how you get into the No he was, Peter, I let me stop you a second.

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Speaker 2: Dan is a perfect example about we have a kid in here, sitting here Jack Wagner who's watching for the week. He's shadowing this and it's a good example for people who start. Dan and I would and he knows this. He was terrible when he started. He really was like he was he was not good. But through the course of that first year, where I watched him get better every week to the point at the end, I was like, this guy's going somewhere big. But when he first started, he was not good at all. And he worked. He worked so hard that he made himself good, which is a good lesson, I think.

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Speaker 4: And I'm glad you put it that way because I sat there and I do the interview and I just look over the studio at my producer to be like, this is the guy. This is like your your first show in ESPN Radio three hundred cities and you booked that guy like that? What were you doing? I'm like, buddy, you need he salt and then sure enough.

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Speaker 2: And then he got well, let's speak of other people you run in high circles with. I am very disappointed and impressed because you got to spend a day with will Stein, the UK football coach, but you chose to do it playing pickleball. So on the one hand, strike it was amazing. So you dropped the private jet. But I think it's great. Oh you're going to spend a day with will Stein. That's very cool. But then you're playing maybe the lamest sport that's ever existed, pickleball. Explain yourself.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So the idea was me and uh, Chris Doring. By the way, his birthday today, we're gonna get him on.

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Speaker 2: The compy birthday.

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Speaker 4: Chris, we had to give during some old man trust me, he's got the old man hat. Going on too. So last year we did a show with Steve Spurrier to really well, we sat down, we went to Spurrier's house and he just told stories for two hours. Not a new idea, but it was. It was awesome. So we decided, hey, you know what, let's do this. And we're looking for ideas of what to do, and we're like, let's I don't know a lot of these coaches. I don't know Silverfield at Arkansas, I sure as hell didn't really know will Stein taken over Kentucky. I read about him. So I pitched the ideas like, let's go to every single one of these coaches. We go to their homes, not the football facility. I'm not doing that, like because they get all buttoned up and they just say the same exact crap. And I said, you got to do something that's distinctly unique to you. If we're going to do this, where we get you know the coach well, so he first chose golf. We were going to do golf that day, and it was his idea. You know, I'm a huge golfer. I played college golf. I still love playing. But he was like, hey, let's go. Mic is up for nine holes. We'll play and then we'll have a sit down. I'm like, great, well the weather was blowing in that day and the day before. He's like, you know what, screw it, let's go indoors.

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Speaker 2: We'll do pick a ball. Now.

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Speaker 4: I had never played before, Matt, and I look like you think I could just We're we're states apart, and I can feel the.

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Speaker 2: Distain I have pickleball. I think pickleball that is the worst thing that's ever existed. And that's Shannon. That's the first strike against will Stein.

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Speaker 4: And when you played it, why did you hate it? Before you get to that, when you played it, why did you hate it? I never have played it exactly, Okay, your honor. I rest my case because I was the same way. I was the same way. I'm like, now you love it. This is some beta stuff Like I'm like, I've played tennis before, but I'm not. Pickleball is for some sixty five year old girl named Ruth, and it's for athletes that can't get around right. And then I'm like, I see more and more people play it, and then now I've gotten I missed the like the peak of it, and now I'm just like anti pickleball, Like if you weren't going to be in when it was kind of cool, then I feel like I'm a late adopter. I don't want to do it, but I'm like, you know what, screw it, I'm going to try it. And Buddy, when I tell you everything, I was Matt Jones on pickleball before I actually played pickleball.

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Speaker 2: Peter, You're not going to convince me on pickleball. But but Shannon, what I'm really upset about is that Will Stein plays. Yeah, that I Will Stein was bat in a thousand. Oh.

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Speaker 4: It was good because then we picked teams and then of course you know Dorian was gonna pick Darby. You know Will's wife, who's fantastic and she's a former athlete as well too.

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Speaker 2: She's so she's like really really good.

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Speaker 4: She's she's good, yeah, I think former lacrosse player, but like super competitive. And so we get in and I'm like, all right, you know what, I'm like, I'm gonna probably tear something like Achilles, like old man stuff. I'm gonna do it. And when I tell you, like, the lights came on and it was Blood's versus Crip, Kentucky versus Louisville.

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Speaker 2: Like it was like, okay, I need some details. Held on a second, Peter's got it. Peter's doing the monologues here, we got I gotta get to answer these questions. He's really competitive, unbelievably competitive. Is she competitive?

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Speaker 4: Like maybe two times more competitive to him? Like there was a there was there was a point early where when I'm telling you that he overhand smashed it directly right into her grill. And I'm telling you, as soon as will Stein did this to Darby, it was not oh, sweety, are you okay? He was like three to one, you're served now Like his wife absolutely, And let me tell you, she can talked incredible trash back. So that's why I was like, oh, this is gonna be kind of fun. We'll do it for the cameras. And I quickly learned within the first what.

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Speaker 2: Is your takeaway on Will just in general, like is your takeaway after spending that time with him, because you now know him probably better than any of us do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just a different fresh mindset on everything, like I mean again, top to bottom, and and it was the competitiveness, but also like a dude now remember, And that's what I found in the he's doing these things is that when we think of coaches, whether it's Pope or whether you think it's Saban, whether whoever it is, we put them on such pedestals. We don't remember for a lot of us that they're just dudes or girls that have all of a sudden got to this upper echelon. And so for him, I'm sitting there playing, I'm like, this is just a young guy who's competitive as hell, who happens to be the head coach in the SEC. And I was I was blowing.

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Speaker 2: He seems very smart. Did you get the sense? Very smart guy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think it was calculated. And I'll vividly remember and hell, don't see if we come on later, I don't know if that's a loud or anything. I don't know. I don't I don't know the whole Uh, the turf management here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's difficult. It's difficult. It's always okay.

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Speaker 4: But I remember sitting there after we got done with pick a ball, and I'm talking about like, hey, man, like on a real note, like what are the changes? This is off camera and I'm like, what are the changes for you? And he's like, you know, hey, there was a concert here that we got invited to, and I could get access here to Kentucky Derby. You know, I got a booster that wants to take me to this, this and this, and I was like, man, that's I mean, I would say yes to all of that. And what I found was he's a much better human than me because he's like, dude, the main thing is not doing this, like I'll have time to do this. But he's like, I only got one time to start as a head coach at Kentucky. And I'm like, okay, I like keeping the main thing. The main thing is basically what I what I took away from him, because can you imagine, dude, like being young, you're making I don't even know what's the salary whatever it is, right, God, No, it's changing money, life changing money. And then everybody comes out of the woodwork and go what restaurant can we get you in?

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Speaker 2: What hotel?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 2: Well, and he's also from here, and so he's already got like a huge network of people in Kentucky. So well, we'll talk more about Will and Chris. Eight five night, Chris, Chris Doran's going to join us here in a second eight five nine twenty two eighty seven UK football or basketball questions. The text machine is seven seven to two seven seven four five two five four plus we have to talk about what was a crazy night in sports. I got to brush up on my French, Shannon. I'm headed to Montreal after last night. Wreat City, Canada. Get ready? Who up? We'll take a break right back, SCASR. Welcome back, Tuckie Sports Radio. Peter Burns sitting in with me now joined on the phone. First of all, Happy birthday from the SEC network. Former Florida Gator and also a UK football general fan, Chris Dorn Chris, Happy birthday from all of us.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Maddie. I appreciate it, man, and you're right. I am have been a convert for a while, and even more so now after TV and I spent a couple of days there in Lexington. Man. The hospitality in the Bluegrass State is amazing, man. So we appreciate you guys very much.

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Speaker 4: What's your record in pickleball against me and Coach Stein?

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Speaker 3: It would be one win for the good guys and two for the bad guys. So it was embarrassing. But I guarantee you, Matt, You're not in studio actually sitting next to TV.

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Speaker 2: Are you no, we're over over video? Although Peter just put on a UK sweatshirt.

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Speaker 3: Well ask him to pull up his pant leg appropriately and see that pickleball Mark I left on his thie Man with the overhead smash. It was one of the most gratifying feelings in my life.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I can see why that would be why that would be fun. Let me ask you a question, Chris. You've always been a huge UK football supporter in the Stoops era. Now it's the Stein era. Are you if you were giving a message to UK fans, how excited should they be about their new coach?

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Speaker 3: I think they should be tremendously excited. And I think that's one of the things about this coaching cycle that we just went through in the SEC man, I think there's a lot of very appropriate fitting coaches at each of the places that hire new coaches. And I think, you know, what Kentucky needed was a change up. Even Coach Stoops mentioned it was time for something new, and so what do they do? They go kind of the opposite, which is, you know, it's kind of the trend and coach hires is you know, whatever you have before, you're going to go something different. They want with a young, energetic, offensive minded head coach, a guy from the state of Kentucky that you know, grew up in that stadium. And I think that's one of the things that I'm most excited about is this is not some hired gun. I know, the guy played at Louisville, but you know, born and bred in that stadium. Telling us about the different games that he watched from the stands there, it really reminded me a lot of you know, kind of my upbringing and then playing for coach Spurrier, who was a Gator through and through. And I just think the not only the the the excitement that he's created by selling the vision for his program to recruits and boosters and everybody else is a reason to be excited, but I think the brand of football they're gonna play. Go back and watch what he did at Oregon, Watch what he's he's done, you know, throughout his coaching career. This is a guy that say, if there were very fourward thinking offensive mind, and it's gonna be an exciting brand of football that they play offensively.

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Speaker 4: There CD Matt was asking me about how competitive is will Stein, and I was trying to tell the story about how the overhead smash to straight into his wife Darby and him talking trash afterwards, Like, how do you describe his that that competitive trait I.

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Speaker 3: Love, I love first and foremost. I love couples that are competitive with one another. They were certainly, I mean, she's an athlete. I guarantee those kids are going to grow up to be athletes. Uh but yeah, man, I think that's just genuinely who he is is a guy that's extremely competitive. Maybe more importantly than that, too, is or coupled with that, as a guy that believes in himself that that bets on himself. I mean, look at his his coaching career, look at his playing career. I mean walking on originally and and getting a chance to earn a scholarship and earn time as a as a starter, you know, disappointed at points with Teddy Bridgewater kind of taking his job, but doing everything he could to be the best supporter and be ready for when his opportunity came again inevitably after you know, Teddy was injured and then trying to figure out what he's going to do gets an opportunity as a GA with coach Strong and goes along with him to Texas. Uh decides that he wants to be a play caller, so he goes back to high school to learn that that trait and become you know, one of the more again offensive minded coaches out there that that is Uh, you know, doing some things that are exciting and creative. And so I I just look at a guy that kind of everywhere he's been, has bet on himself and now comes back and takes a job that a lot of people's minds is tough to win at. But I think he understands the state of Kentucky and and how you know, football fits in with with basketball and the love for for that sport there in the state. But I've never really bought into this idea that Kentucky doesn't want to be a football school. Even when I was playing, we'd go to Commonwealth Stadium and the fans showed up there. Wasn't always the best product on the field, wasn't always the most competitive games, but the fans are knowledgeable, they're excited, they're passionate, and I think this gives them a reason to believe that they can, you know, kind of break through that glass ceiling that's existed for so long in Lexington.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna read you, guys real quick, both of you, the schedule, and I want you to tell me how many wins Kentucky's gonna get, because this, in my opinion, is the hardest schedule Kentucky's ever had in my lifetime. In a season, Youngstown stayed at home. Actually, you just guys, quickly, win or loss. Youngstown stayed at home. Peter, go ahead, dub yeah, all right.

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Speaker 3: Alabama at home, I'm gonna say loss reluctantly.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say win. You are gonna eat it at A and M lost, Peter, South Alabama home. I'm sure you're gonna say win. At South Carolina.

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Speaker 3: I'll go win.

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Speaker 4: I'll go win, all right.

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Speaker 2: I like that LSU at home.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I want to win so bad right there. I'm cheer for a win, but I'm not sure they get it there. But yeah, I'm win.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say win, all right, I'll say, I'll say l.

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Speaker 2: I'll say, I'll say all right, Oklahoma.

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Speaker 3: Al on the road, I'm gonna say lost there.

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Speaker 4: Give me the shaker right there, right, you're gonna take us on the road against let's go Oklahoma, you know, so listen, think about that, guys, Oklahoma L s U, Alabama, A and M four of will Stein's first seven games.

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Speaker 3: Yes, uh so it used to be about, you know, it's not only who you play, but it's when you play them and the order that they fall in. It used to be everybody's SEC schedule was defined by a three game stretch. Now with the ninth conference game, I think it's there's a lot of these situations that are four game runs that are gonna be really challenging for teams in this league.

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Speaker 2: All right, real quick, because we just got a minute home Vandy. When when at Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Hmm, tough place for tell you play, I'll say lost, I'll say lost.

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Speaker 2: Home Florida, Oh definitely win, easy one. Oh shut up. Chris. At Missouri.

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Speaker 3: I'll say, I'll say win.

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Speaker 2: I'll say lost. And then Louisville at home.

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Speaker 3: Got to be a win there, we gotta have.

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Speaker 2: I mean so, but both of you now have five wins. So that's just to say, that's kind of how hard the schedule is. Is that kind of where you think the team is Chris?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think if they could find a way to get to a bowl game. You get that six win in will Stein's first season with that schedule, I think it'd be a great year one for them for sure.

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Speaker 4: Last thing, because I know we've got to go, Matt. Is this the last human that it still owns a home phone?

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Speaker 2: Is this a landline? You have a landline? Matt.

00:22:42
Speaker 3: This is how committed I am to doing clear segments that sound good when I do radio hits because I land Grandma.

00:22:50
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Chris Doring and happy birthday. Thank you for spending it with us.

00:22:55
Speaker 3: Appreciate y'all, see ya, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break. Come back, Peter Burns KSR. TJ Smith personal injury attorney. Call TJ. He'll make them pay.

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Speaker 3: Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.

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Speaker 2: Here's Matt Joe. Welcome back Tucky Sports Radio. Eight five nine eight twenty two eighty seven. Text machine is seven seven two seven seven four five two five four. You said Chris was on the landline, Peter, how how old are you? You're you're my forty seven, exact same age. I am. Okay, what what year was the first year you got a cell phone. How old were you.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say it was probably junior going into my senior year of high school, so probably ninety six or so. And that was when like you got the first minute free, remember, like you have a cell phone, was like, yeah, they calls, you would be good. And if you had an outgoing call, as long as you did it and in less than a minute, then it didn't count towards your plan.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you got so many minutes right a month and then you I forgot about that. If you got an incoming call, you didn't have to pay, You're golden.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, that's when I had a whole campaign to be like we had a baby, it's a boy, gotta go like that was like quick.

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Speaker 2: And then at nine o'clock, right you could it was free, so everybody would wait and make all their calls at nine o'clock at night.

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Speaker 4: I think obviously the flip phone. Then I think I had the Palm Trio at one time. That was about you actually had the keyboard, and then it's been iPhone all the way. Now, one person, you strike me as an android guy, like a green green y.

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Speaker 2: No, that's right, Shannon and I are very anti android people we are if you haven't android, Ryan has one and we're still angry at him. One Furst writes. Matt asked Peter the question that Andy called in with Shannon this is good. We'll see what his answer is. We had a caller call in last week and he said, if someone broke into your house and all they they didn't take anything, all they did was for five minutes, hold you down and tickle you and then leave. Would you report it to the police. You know, it's a heat, it's a heat. You didn't you did not see it's a heat. They hold you down and tickle you. But if you report it to the police, it's gonna be on all the news stories. Peter Burns had his house broken in and was tickled, uh, tickled with it. Otherwise, though, if you don't report it, they just get it, get away with it. Are you reporting it? Yeah? You are?

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Speaker 4: Listen, there's also things bad presody longer look at politics. Just get your name out there as much as possible, and then if there's a serial tickler out there, maybe that means.

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Speaker 2: Everywhere you go people are gonna be like saying, that's the guy that got I just want to see that headline Peter Burns tickled. I mean, that's the headline. Now you're having second thoughts, aren't you got.

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Speaker 4: Tell listen, I almost had a headline that said Peter Burns choked to death before a Missouri Boston College football game. So like the fact that that could have been.

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Speaker 2: A headline, Why were you almost choked to death?

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Speaker 4: We didn't hear this, Like, I don't know if you knew this story, but I'm literally it's me, Taylor's Arzer, Matt Stinchcombe, the whole crew. I was doing a road show two years ago. Missouri and Boston College were playing. The night before, we go out to dinner and Commissioner Sanki is there and we're having this great dinner.

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Speaker 2: The owner brings all this.

00:26:31
Speaker 4: Food and about you know, the last bite I take, Buddy can't breathe.

00:26:36
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I thought you meant someone choked you.

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Speaker 4: No, No, like nearly choke to death. And four different people do the Heimlake. I was out for two minutes and broke four ribs, but yes, and then I'm like, I had to live not only for my kids, in just a waning of life as well. I mean that's important, but I'm like if you die before a Boston College Missouri game, that's horror. Wait to go, Like that's a that's a brutal that's a brutal way, Like there's is a brutal to blaze of glory. You can't sell what happened, Like, yeah, it is a Boston College Missouri game. And the worst part, it wasn't even a night game. It was a noon kickoff. You cannot die before Boston College Missouri nuon kickoff game.

00:27:19
Speaker 2: No, you can't. That would be a terrible way to get shit. JP Pilot, Jefferson Pilot Times. Yeah, the Dave, Dave and Dave game. Shannon, did you watch Wimby last night? Oh my god?

00:27:29
Speaker 4: He pulled up from what forty feet out?

00:27:30
Speaker 2: He was amazing last night. I cannot believe the shot by Wimby. I mean, I first of all, it was time left right, there was twenty six seconds now they were down three. I guess the thought was, but I just can't believe the audacity to shoot it from there. You got he was you have to make it. If you're gonna take it, you're also he's I mean he's seven foot five and he's pulling up from thirty five feet. If Steph does it, that's one thing. But if it's Wimby, I think everybody obviously knew Wimby was good. He came in second in the MVP race. But Peter there was definitely watching that game because a lot of people kind of only tune in at this time of year, sort of casual people. This is on NBC. Usually play the finals are only the only thing on network TV. Now you're getting the Western Conference Finals on network TV. I think for a lot of America, the Wimby era started last night.

00:28:28
Speaker 4: You know what I mean that Like, Okay, this isn't about a future, stand about it. But they never consumed it. Like there was a point where I had I had heard about Kaitlyn Clark for the longest time. I'm like, come on, really, like is it gonna be that good? And I watched Caitlin against i think the semi final, then the game against Lsu. I'm like, okay, now I kind of get it. Yes, I was in Vegas because I lived in San Antonio for fifteen years. I covered the Spurs where they won the ninety nine oh three, oh five oh seven championships. So I was there with Duncan and Robinson and saw all of that, and the city just embraces it like hell. But like I was in Vegas whenever Winby came out for his first game, and I'm like, this is this is not a human.

00:29:07
Speaker 2: Talent.

00:29:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, Lebron was that way the first time you saw him play, You're like, this looks different. Wimby's just like Mike. Mike Finger of the San Antonio Express had a great line earlier today that says, imagine waking up and knowing there's eight billion people in the world and not a single one of them could stop you if you're on your game, and that's that might be Wimby last night. I I was.

00:29:32
Speaker 2: It was a I've seen him many times, but that was one of those because you know, we're I have mixed emotions because Shae and Wallace are playing for Oklahoma City Case and Wallace hits a big three and in overtime that kind of cuts it to a one point game. Shaye does not play well, probably one of the worst game Shay's had this year, but there was about a three minute period in that overtime when he comes down and he hits the three, then he blocks the Shy, he grabs the rebound. Poor Chet Holmgren Shannon. That guy now has to quit, right, doesn't he have to quit? He's got to quit? Because Mario made this point online. Peter chet holgrim Is is also seven foot three, and they weren't having him guard Wimby. They had Alex Caruso, who's your height, guarding Wimby. So just the mere fact that they would not put him on Wimby says he has to retire, doesn't he.

00:30:29
Speaker 4: My favorite is the memes that are going around that have che in his stat line and it's the face of mclovin on it from Super Guy.

00:30:38
Speaker 2: Get It, and it's so quit he has to quit. That you when Alex Caruso Shannon, who's a foot and a half shorter than him, yeah, is trying to guard him and Wimby and and Chet is standing in the corner. That's the saddest thing I've ever seen. They put both of those guys on last night.

00:30:58
Speaker 4: What was the last athlete before that moment that you just looked at Matt and you go that that's just different like that that that I mean, like I go back.

00:31:08
Speaker 2: Into Lamar Lamar Jack Lord, when you would watch him play at Louisville and granted, but not from a physical standpoint, just when he played. I remember being on the field once for a Lamar Louisville I think the Kentucky game, and it was just like, I've never seen anyone move like this at that position. But just as a physical freak standpoint, I don't know, Peter, I can't think of one that's wimbs, can you.

00:31:35
Speaker 4: I go back, I mean a little bit because one of my things that I love is going back and watching like high school film of like dominant running backs in the sec you just see them destroy some fourteen year old pimple kid had like the t I.

00:31:51
Speaker 2: Eighty two that those Derrick Henry.

00:31:54
Speaker 4: Was like, I mean literally he was like apologizing for what he was about to do to kids as he was, you know, getting his eighth touch town in the third quarter of games. And I like, so it's a physical freak, but then that skill set and I mean I go back and look, I remember the first time I saw it cover in the Spurs, and it was it was Dirk. Seeing Dirk moved the way that he did. Durant was a similar way where they just changed their game and then you start thinking about guys that that that hell went over there and played at Kentucky that had that range, that length, but also they were fluid.

00:32:27
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what you need to do during the break. Look up Peter Lynn Bowden in high school where he's he's he's the punter and he runs a fake punt. No, I'm serious. Watch watch that. Have you had that video? If you haven't seen it at home, just go go Look up Lin Bowden is the punter for his high school and he decides to run a fake punt and all eleven guys on the field get their hand on him at some point and no one tackles him.

00:32:57
Speaker 4: I mean the Belk Bowl that he played here in Oh that was real. When people ask me, like, what are the one of the greatest performances that doesn't get enough love, I go when Lynn Bowden played quarterback and I don't even remember who they beat that year, but single Jinia Tech, it was unbelievable.

00:33:12
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00:33:33
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00:34:08
Speaker 4: All of them? I mean again, it is like when Trump was asked about his whole Bible verse. Del It's like I celebrate them all equally at.

00:34:16
Speaker 2: I have to tell you that's exactly what I thought of when you had your your favorite Bible verse.

00:34:21
Speaker 4: I mean, like the whole thing is like whenever you go like old Forrester and like it just like burns your tongue and stuff like that. I mean, I got a story on the other side, I'll tell you about John Summerroll and his deal. I mean, you gotta go Pappy fifteen. It's probably the I mean.

00:34:33
Speaker 2: That's how often?

00:34:34
Speaker 4: How often do you have it?

00:34:35
Speaker 3: Right?

00:34:35
Speaker 2: Yeah? Never, We'll take a break, be right back, KSR. Welcome back. Take you sports radio. Do you ever sing this Shannon in your concert? No, we don't do any bon Jovi. This would be a tough one to get. Can you think your voice could get this one? Probably not. I mean, but well, I don't do a lot of eighties stuff.

00:34:54
Speaker 4: Everybody in the eighties saying like they were I don't know, like squeezing their.

00:35:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be tough that, I mean bon Jovi and then Axel though some of those would be hard to uh hard to get.

00:35:09
Speaker 4: Text machine Young Guns still hold up because that was what this Young Guns the movie. This is the one with like em right. Yeah, I don't know it came from the soundtrack.

00:35:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was either Young Guns or Young Guns too, which you know, I haven't seen those in years. I'm not sure. I'm curious Peter Burns here with this, Peter, let me ask you a question about the SEC. Somebody wrote in and said, ask Peter how much he thinks a roster to compete in the SEC costs now? And how much does Kentucky have? But you would have better idea of the sort of balance around the conference.

00:35:50
Speaker 4: I think to compete for a college football playoff spot, you probably have to have about thirty million dollars on the roster. I think if you go back and look at average of the twelve teams, not counting like a group of sixteen that gets in. But if you ask what what's the medium the you know, the average of it, it's going to be around probably thirty million dollars. And you get you'll get the outliers like Ohio State or LSU this year that they're all in on lane, that they'll throw in forty six fifty million dollars, or Texas Tech at some point. Well, I think that I think that'll be the number.

00:36:23
Speaker 2: Wow. So what do you think Kentucky has? If thirty million dollars is what you need, what do you think Kentucky's at right now? With that? I I have no clue.

00:36:33
Speaker 4: I mean, okay, and that's the idea.

00:36:35
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

00:36:36
Speaker 4: I couldn't even I couldn't even tell you. I would imagine it's probably what a lot of teams are at, which is probably twenty million back. That's a complete guestimate right there.

00:36:46
Speaker 3: It Do you.

00:36:48
Speaker 2: When you talk to Will when you were there, do you get the sense that he thinks he has the resources needed to build something here.

00:36:57
Speaker 4: I think he looks at this as a gym that's like waiting to be like found. Is how I got it? I mean I had just told him that I had just gotten back from like a huge booster event with LSU. We took a couple of private planes down to a golf course with a bunch of their guys and it was a great event. And he was like and he was enthralled with it. He go, what whoa, whoa, what did you guys do? I said this, this is this and he's like, oh, show me pictures. And then you know, we talked about it for a couple of moments, and then later the next day he's like, hey, can you send me all those pictures? Like you wanted to know?

00:37:30
Speaker 2: It's so he wanted to see how see I like that I love the idea that you're rather than just sort of being rigid and this is what I do. You're taking the view of what's working everywhere else and how can we emulate.

00:37:43
Speaker 4: Well, you're not. I mean again the idea. And I remember, I can't remember what coach told me this, but when you say coaches that have been here forever or whatnot, and how many years of experience, you're dealing with a new world of college athletics starting basically in twenty twenty two, I think twenty twenty three. So everybody has basically learned over the last three years a new version of college football. Saban had to do it, and he's like boom, I'm out. Kirby's learning it right now, and Signetti has kind of mastered it. So it's almost like a brand new like a crash at a NASCAR event and or like, all right, we're starting right now twenty twenty three. This is football on and going, and I think that's why it's a breadth of fresh air. Not that I love Stoops, I mean Stoops was. I got along well with them.

00:38:26
Speaker 2: I've always got along well with Mitch.

00:38:27
Speaker 4: But I think at some point, no matter what industry it's time for something new and fresh and outside of ideas, and that is you feel like kduck me more than any of the competitiveness, was how he's like, Ooh, I think we could do this. We could do this, we could do this, Like the brand was already churning about how he could do that for Kentucky football.

00:38:46
Speaker 2: Did you feel like with Mitch Barnhardt that it was time for just to re I mean, I what did you think it was time for a change in the athletic department too?

00:38:57
Speaker 4: I again, I see both sides of it, because the institutional, just the collegiate knowledge that Mitch had is so incredibly valuable. But I don't know how much it plays into college athletics in twenty twenty six.

00:39:15
Speaker 2: And I see that.

00:39:16
Speaker 4: I think the basketball world, Matt, that you deal in such a good job. But of the Roy Williams, the coach, K's those guys, that institutional knowledge, I don't know if it fit this world that we live in now. And some guys are like, I'm out. Some guys are like, I'll try to figure it out, but then they're gonna drag their heels, and some people are just gonna be like screw it. I'm all in. You got to jump on it. And I think that's probably the best case scenario of a new part of blood. From a head coaching standpoint and even from a leadership stamps.

00:39:48
Speaker 2: You have to adapt. If you don't, you adapt or die.

00:39:50
Speaker 4: And I think these and that was not fair to Mitch either, right, because all of it kind of change underneath his ground. The question is where you're going to adapt or the question it's like, no, I'm going to hold down my principals.

00:40:02
Speaker 2: And this, Yeah, you can't do that. Now, you just can't. Braxton, Go ahead, Braxton, Braxton.

00:40:18
Speaker 3: What's your favorite Kentucky player on football and basketball?

00:40:24
Speaker 2: Are you talking about on the current team or or in the past all time favorites? All right, I appreciate the call. Well, my my all time favorite basketball player is Jamal mcglure. But if you're talking about guys who were top level, was probably John Wall football, I gotta go back to Tim Couch because I grew up same age, same part of the state. Peter, what about you, as an outsider your favorite Kentucky football and basketball play?

00:40:57
Speaker 4: I can tell you easily the person that I hated the most has been a doubt Diehard LSU basketball fans Rex Chapman, I mean, like really, oh my god, because every time, I mean, remember, you know, I'm growing up. We're the same age, so you know, late eighties, I'm watching Chris Jackson and Shaq and Stanley Roberts and all those guys, and I just remember growing up and whether it was a Marty Marty Girl miracle or whatnot, it was Kentucky would always have your number. And so it always seemed like Rex Chapman would hit a shot and it would piss me off. And so that that's the one that like resonates with me the entire time.

00:41:29
Speaker 2: So what was it like watching us come back after being down? I mean we were down. You were down thirty one in the second half, and you blew it. Peter. That's terrible.

00:41:39
Speaker 4: Again, it's one of those sports scars, like how many you remember your memories, But it's the sports scars that hurt the worst.

00:41:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, Baily, Remember we had just moved into We're getting ready to move into a new house.

00:41:50
Speaker 4: We had moved everything out of the house, and like we were living in this apartment and my dad set together like a little television we plugged in the wall and watched that game and we almost turned it off, and you're like, well, I mean, Kentucky's get a little bit closer. Oh, Dale Brown just got a tech uh oh, And I remember just my dad turning it off and just we didn't.

00:42:07
Speaker 2: Say you got us back in football though, with the with the with the Bluegrass miracle.

00:42:12
Speaker 4: Will Stein talked about he was there in the building when that happened.

00:42:16
Speaker 2: Yes, that was Uh. We'd already poured the gatorade over our coaches head and ended up taking lass. So we kind of cancel each other out of miracle departure. We're gonna talk a little bit. UK baseball has a massive, massive game today, almost like a playoff game, uh today in the SEC tournament. And we'll take your calls eight five nine, twenty two eighty sevens KSI