Rich Paul on LeBron-Jordan, Jay-Z vs. Terror Squad Rucker Blackout Game & Adele

Joe and Jada

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by CEO of Klutch Sports Rich Paul. Right out the gate, Jada instigates an argument about LeBron James' future with the Los Angeles Lakers, which then quickly evolves into a heated debate over whether King James or Chicago Bulls legend Michael Jordan is the true greatest NBA player of all time. They also discuss Paul's relationship with superstar musician Adele, his new 'Game Over' podcast with former ESPN analyst Max Kellerman at The Ringer, his signature shoe with New Balance, and the infamous cancelled 2003 Rucker Park basketball game between Jay-Z's Team S. Carter and Joe's Team Terror Squad which would have featured NBA stars like LeBron, Denver Nuggets forward Carmelo Anthony, Philadelphia 76ers guard Allen Iverson, and Los Angeles Lakers center Shaquille O'Neal.

3:30 - New 'Game Over' podcast with Max Kellerman

6:00 - Relationship with Adele

8:00 - Paul explains to Joe why Lakers WON'T trade LeBron

11:30 - LeBron vs. Jordan NBA G.O.A.T. debate

16:30 - Shoe deal with New Balance

21:00 - Paul's role & specialties with Klutch Sports clients

33:00 - Why you should work HARDER once you make it

46:00 - Why Paul stays out of his clients' personal lives

53:00 - Cancelled Jay-Z vs. Terror Squad Rucker game

1:04:00 - Importance of giving back

1:10:00 - Joe's got the Kenny Smith leg

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2026-01-06 64 min Transcript

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00:00:00
Speaker 1: Listen, by the way, just so you know, I was there Blackout.

00:00:05
Speaker 2: We flew in fifty on your team.

00:00:11
Speaker 3: Fifty. We had talked about it. Yo, what up, Yard, This is your boy, the motherfucking dodge Joe Crack in the building.

00:00:32
Speaker 4: You know what it is, your boy Jada?

00:00:34
Speaker 2: You know what it is?

00:00:35
Speaker 4: Did Joe and Jada show every show legendary, every show iconic and we got our foot on these throat right.

00:00:43
Speaker 2: Now, right, I mean the next guest.

00:00:46
Speaker 4: When you think of hard working, grinding, coming from the bottom, you know what I mean, making something out of nothing. One of the best sports agents in the world really never loses. He does a lot of wining, you know what I mean. Great businessman, great INDI visual ladies and gentlemen.

00:01:09
Speaker 2: Make some noise for rich Paul.

00:01:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you coming in our space now, you the new rookie in the block. You and Max Killerman coming in that part. Well you said it's an audio visual spick. Yes, explain what you mean by that when you coming in that space.

00:01:32
Speaker 2: Something I've been working on about eighteen months.

00:01:34
Speaker 1: Max and I you know, when he first situation happened with him, I called him. He thought I was trying to represent him like, nah, we should do something together. He called me back, he was like, oh, that's kind of interesting. So we worked it, worked, it worked it, and yeah, we're.

00:01:50
Speaker 2: Excited about it. It's gonna be dope, though.

00:01:52
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's gonna be in LA in New York, La La. But you know, it's well situations where it's like The Ringers out of five Netflix, hard to turn that down. It's Max who's a professional, and then it's me who don't exist in that world.

00:02:11
Speaker 2: And we've been working too, Like it's not like a game.

00:02:13
Speaker 1: It's not like coming in like when I focus on something like that, like I really put the time in to rehearse and want to do it.

00:02:20
Speaker 2: The right way. And you can't play with the business like that. So I could tell by your lineup and ship my barber flew in.

00:02:30
Speaker 3: The world that ship the fibers Fiber. It ain't got the Jalen Brown right now, Fibers Joe, we've been knowing for like a week. I'm shot today. I'm just letting you know. I'm fucking shocked. But but the third video, Nigga, I'm on on points.

00:02:49
Speaker 2: You're not gonna do right.

00:02:52
Speaker 1: You and I still have a little You forgot, No, I forgot. Let me know, I wanted U, man, I mean I used to record. I never got nothing. I never got nothing from what from Family Ties?

00:03:05
Speaker 3: I got nothing.

00:03:06
Speaker 1: One of the best songs on the on the whole album, you Forgot, I forgot.

00:03:11
Speaker 2: You me to play No, Okay, what happened on family Time? I don't know.

00:03:15
Speaker 3: I didn't get nothing nothing.

00:03:19
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, that's not your style, that's not you, that's not you.

00:03:24
Speaker 4: I mean the artist he pulled the he went executive evening.

00:03:28
Speaker 1: Don't send me to don't send me to the TS study things.

00:03:34
Speaker 3: I need. You know. Your response always the little guys, right, because coming from fact, Joe, you're a little guy, right, and so when hey, when I go, yeah, that was yes, that.

00:03:57
Speaker 2: Was a flag. I was. You're sharp, though, Joe. I'm with it.

00:04:08
Speaker 3: I caught myself right now. It's a little bit better like I was not caught it. Oh but you know your girlfriend wife.

00:04:18
Speaker 2: What you're talking about, you're talking about that. Yes. Oh.

00:04:22
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is always little little guys like you, man, Like I said here, I'm looking at fuck with Jermaine Dupre. Jermaine Dupre had Janet Jackson. What gives you guys the courage to walk into a fucking ion Judy queen and be like, yeah, big, what's up? I want to fuck with a real one. I'm looking at you this man, you guys yo, Well it's crazy. Yeah, I'm looking at us, at Jermaine Dupri. You're about five to two and ship. Some change, that's yeah, some change. The man went at yo, want your Maine dupret. The confidence has got to be at an all time Uh huh, well you do. We all really do the choosing. You get chosen. Oh, good ship. So that's that ship. That's I like that. Yeah, sometimes we get chosen by the room ones. Uh dick, you do the you got Josh machine.

00:05:35
Speaker 2: Well you get chose, you have a choice.

00:05:38
Speaker 3: I got a friend, he's breaking up right now. His wife is on that fucking Instagram. She dropping the forty eight laws of being the fucked up man. His ship he on date twelve. He's still got he's still got thirty more days and the ship. I'm like, I go in the fucking Italian bakery. They're like, hey, you see what the Italians, the real Italians that we are. Whatever the like Yo, your friend nah his wife on fire on INSTAGRAMN like, yo, let me get our sandwich.

00:06:12
Speaker 2: Tack.

00:06:12
Speaker 3: Critic said something wrong, right, I said.

00:06:14
Speaker 2: Yo, you know I listen.

00:06:16
Speaker 4: I don't want to get you do get chose though, you know before we go any further, so we never had to have this discussion again.

00:06:26
Speaker 5: Can you please tell him King James can never be treated unless I saw that, Joe, I wonder where you going with that?

00:06:38
Speaker 3: Do you do you what you said?

00:06:40
Speaker 2: You followed something?

00:06:41
Speaker 3: I got that. No, you can just follow nothing you said.

00:06:45
Speaker 2: You see all somebody say something and I don't your stuf. King.

00:06:50
Speaker 3: What I said is this league historically has been about rebuilding. And when they got a bunch of young kids balling the way they balling, got a bunch of white boys too at that, balling over there, dropping thirty five forty points a game, right, going crazy over there. The King took a little bit off of the Sciatica. I'm wondering if he's going he might have fucked up, because I don't think he asked, hiatica, if you really want me to tell you what I really want to say? No, I think he said, yo, let me just see these guys. What they could do on it, and they're just around as.

00:07:27
Speaker 2: This is why I have a shell give them. Okay, come on, because if you want through real, yeah he has.

00:07:35
Speaker 3: Are you full of shit too? You made me some promises that ain't never had.

00:07:40
Speaker 2: You're a liar.

00:07:41
Speaker 3: How you told me guys were coming to the nixt I thing you represented. The motherfuckers went to Afghanistan. Ain't come on.

00:07:48
Speaker 1: They gave them more money that the Knicks probably had the money.

00:07:53
Speaker 3: I came here bragging so hard. You told me one time somebody was coming in. I was so gassed. I was ready to bet. I would have went to funk.

00:08:01
Speaker 1: I was probably trolling you, was showing me you definitely joker.

00:08:06
Speaker 3: The motherfucker ain't coming nowhere.

00:08:07
Speaker 1: Did like y'all, but listen, you don't play with Sciatica first of all, so but again now you can't be traded, has no trade clause show and even if you even if you wanted to trade, it's just people just say the craziest thing. I saw all of that though, I was just like, yes, this is why I'm doing a show, because you got to get the real that's not really.

00:08:29
Speaker 2: It's great clickbait, but.

00:08:31
Speaker 1: It's not like the real the reality of it is make fifty four million dollars at that age that said truck slow too.

00:08:42
Speaker 3: I'm on point today. That's why I'm trying to tell you this. So hello.

00:08:49
Speaker 1: So it's what Jada's saying, is right. He can't be traded unless he wants to be traded. But even with that being said, it takes two to tangle in the trade. So we hear all these people, Oh, you gotta take a back seat, you gotta fit in, you gotta do this. If you want to break it down, you can take all four positions and name your top five. He's in one of the top five and all four positions outside of the center.

00:09:15
Speaker 2: So where is the fitting in at?

00:09:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you say that now, I said, for the last twenty three years.

00:09:23
Speaker 2: For the last twenty three nars.

00:09:25
Speaker 3: Let's say, let's cut the ship. Let's cut the ship. Get to the bure mj Lebron James.

00:09:31
Speaker 2: Who's to go? Here? We go?

00:09:33
Speaker 3: I'm so tired. No, no, just saying the tired here you salloween.

00:09:41
Speaker 2: Fucking get here, Joe, you win?

00:09:44
Speaker 3: No, how suck did you win?

00:09:45
Speaker 2: Him?

00:09:46
Speaker 3: He lined you on?

00:09:47
Speaker 2: Man, No, I'm here.

00:09:49
Speaker 3: You don't have to say this crazy ship and we're not even gonna say this ship. Who's to go? Rich Boy, you're here?

00:09:55
Speaker 2: Who needs to go? To mistake?

00:09:58
Speaker 3: He don't believe me. I'm outside. Maybe I'm talking to some other guys. They when when we get to the Jordan talk, Yo, they used to call fouls.

00:10:08
Speaker 2: Yo.

00:10:08
Speaker 3: He used to play against guys.

00:10:10
Speaker 2: This religious.

00:10:14
Speaker 3: A white guy tossing everybody's ass right now. So what I'm trying to say is who's to go? That's all I'm saying. Can I get you on record? Is Lebron James? Cause you said for the last twenty three years he could be number one in everything? Are you gonna say he's better than Michael Jordan?

00:10:34
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say I always said that.

00:10:36
Speaker 3: I would say rich Play is the best coach in the universe.

00:10:39
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that for my show. But this is what I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you your show. I'm gonna tell you your show. You judge guys by what the rooms that you're in, right, who come in the rooms that Joe's in? You don't let anybody in the rooms that you go in, that super fact.

00:10:57
Speaker 2: But Lebron James let me ask you this question.

00:11:01
Speaker 1: Let me ask this question, Joe, since you already you ain't painting my publisher, I got nothing whatever, but the long story.

00:11:08
Speaker 2: Listen to this. What room can might go in that Lebron camp?

00:11:14
Speaker 3: Listen I'm saying. And by the way, I don't think you want to answer that.

00:11:18
Speaker 2: I want to answer. Yo. That's something jay Man. This is a different time.

00:11:22
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying, you're asking you see until we get to saying that, I'm not saying that. And I said that respectfully though that's not that's not a respectfully Russian question.

00:11:34
Speaker 3: Who's had sneak is selling for thirty years?

00:11:36
Speaker 2: Listen, man, I.

00:11:38
Speaker 3: Keep jumping for.

00:11:44
Speaker 5: Some of them.

00:11:45
Speaker 2: He's talking to.

00:11:47
Speaker 3: You're not answering the question was the baby when Jordan's came up, you can't get that's space chare man, which number two is just one?

00:11:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can't not sneak is.

00:11:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you talking about?

00:12:00
Speaker 2: Kid?

00:12:01
Speaker 3: It's not fair to even say that you think Lebron is better than Michael Jordan. Hes talking it on our show. We're on our show. You think Lebron is better than Michael Jordan. That's crazy you No, he just said it. I just I think you you think that Lebron James is better than Michael Jordyan.

00:12:29
Speaker 4: With room if you so many that he can't go.

00:12:33
Speaker 1: If you're on the Basketball Greatness elevati, you get on and just key accident.

00:12:39
Speaker 3: Lebron is there what he started, He's going to and my category and my my category opens up. Michael Jordan goes in. Then it actually goes up one flight before Lebron's and Kobe walks in. And then it goes up one flight and Lebron walks it.

00:13:00
Speaker 2: That's how I do it. There's nothing wrong with that.

00:13:02
Speaker 3: You mean, like I'm this, I know that's bread and butter.

00:13:09
Speaker 1: You gotta whatever, Let me do it another way. No, it's not my bread and butter. I built the real business, real business.

00:13:16
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no no no no no.

00:13:19
Speaker 3: So the elevator don't stop for you the same way it stops me in the goat. You said, if you're getting the goat. You know what I was going to say, elevate.

00:13:28
Speaker 1: What I'm gonna say to you is I'm talking about to the top floor. There's a key that takes you all the way to the top floor.

00:13:35
Speaker 2: Kobe's go there.

00:13:35
Speaker 1: Lebrons go there, Mike, they both they all go to that Floria.

00:13:39
Speaker 2: You now don't get access denied your risk.

00:13:42
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something Max Kellerman. I tried to sign him to the rewind He said, y'all, I don't really paint my ship like that. I'm saying, I'm sorry, good luck sounds like a good idea, but I don't do it. He was the first person I tried to get on a Rewinded box. He said, he he's a good sponsor show man. We ain't got nobody sponsored no show. We just sponsored in this show right now. You know what I'm saying, We just taking the ass call. You know, we're building the business.

00:14:10
Speaker 4: You know what means you go with New Balance is stead of the Nike with all of the fuck you.

00:14:17
Speaker 3: I think I do want to sponsor the show, but again, continue like, let's.

00:14:20
Speaker 2: Talk about it.

00:14:21
Speaker 3: No, no, no, talk about it. So just put us in the lower paper tier.

00:14:28
Speaker 2: What's that? What's that?

00:14:29
Speaker 3: Tier three? Not a tier three? I'll be picked number three.

00:14:37
Speaker 1: Maybe go with newh In twenty nineteen, I did a man do an internship with kid Darius Basic that kind of expedity in il setting him going to college.

00:14:49
Speaker 2: I sent him to work at New Balance, and he.

00:14:53
Speaker 1: Learned an actual business that was directly aligned to where he was going. He can't play basketball without shoot, But what I really wanted him to learn was everything that goes into it, you know, the marketing of it, how company choose an athlete, the making of it, you know, cutting, so all the different silhouettes of the shoes and all that. But I knew that because he wasn't going to college, that the NBA teams would have to cause somebody to see how he performed, you know, what his habits was like, they can call the college coach. So he went to Boston, lived in Boston, trained before work.

00:15:33
Speaker 2: Went to work, and trained afterwork.

00:15:35
Speaker 1: And because of that, he still ended up going to the first round, signed a deal with New Balance, and then that started our relationship.

00:15:43
Speaker 2: And it's a family owned business, so there's not a lot.

00:15:45
Speaker 1: Of bureaucracy, so I can get right to the decision makers, just build a relationship. And then came up with the idea everyone else could have a shoe, I can CEO have.

00:15:55
Speaker 2: A ship, right, And then they liked that idea.

00:15:59
Speaker 1: Firstman did really well, second one did really well, and now we're on this third one.

00:16:04
Speaker 3: Let's see put it up on the on the on the joint because I ain't really how about I ain't looking.

00:16:08
Speaker 1: How About I do for you what you didn't do for me, Joe, I'm just gonna give your own pair.

00:16:12
Speaker 2: How about let me give.

00:16:13
Speaker 3: You Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll tell you. I tell you small man. Well, I'm a twelve brother. They know my size and the shoot game, they know what it is.

00:16:31
Speaker 2: So but when you think about it, I was just thinking about the joint.

00:16:35
Speaker 3: I love that.

00:16:37
Speaker 1: Comfortable, very comfortable fire, and the creative came for me.

00:16:42
Speaker 2: That's why this it's all around being unbothered. Mhm.

00:16:46
Speaker 1: And so if you were unbothered, it's more so just like that, I'm focused.

00:16:51
Speaker 2: See the box. Yeah, I'm locked in.

00:16:53
Speaker 1: And the Colorway came from just this idea of like when you're a kid, you go to school, come home, just want your juice box. Everybody leave me along at least for ten minutes. When you're adult, you got to work, come home, just want your glass wine. So that started the foundation of Colorway then kind of built on that.

00:17:12
Speaker 2: That's kind of like unbothered by.

00:17:13
Speaker 1: What pretty much every critics opinions they sayers people that stay talking but never really did anything, you know, all that type. And so it's actually this is the colorway going to retail. It is the friends of their family color with that lighter color were is on the box.

00:17:31
Speaker 2: So y'all get both ya Mike a little close weather, Come on, bro, because you're so spoken. Gentlemen, that's a flat. Let me test the flat.

00:17:40
Speaker 3: Kill the mic closer. You got that ship long distance over now? Yeah, I thought you was sharp today I'm super sharp.

00:17:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he and when I fuck up, I win. That's true. That's the point.

00:18:03
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:18:05
Speaker 1: So, and New Balance has just been great, been great partners every step of the way from Clutch Athletics being with New Balance signing guys like Maxie and Garland and Laden and you know John Tay.

00:18:18
Speaker 3: Who do you represent? Could you give us a list? By the way, everybody, if y'all don't know who Rich Paul is, because I guess you're guilty by association.

00:18:26
Speaker 2: Even me.

00:18:27
Speaker 3: All I think about is Lebron. But you represent a bunch of superstar athletes. Can you just give us somebody? But here's the thing.

00:18:34
Speaker 1: I think people don't understand how important it is for you to be given an opportunity, right, So I gotta be thankful for Lebron because at the end of the day, I've got to this place from a perception of people thought you were extra and today I'm an executive at the highest level. Right, So that road travel it has to start somewhere. That starts with the opportunity that I tell everybody around talent, whether you artists, whether you athletes, these guys don't owe you anything.

00:19:10
Speaker 2: They really don't.

00:19:12
Speaker 1: And you don't have to know everything either, But what you need to know is what you're actually capable of doing so you can.

00:19:20
Speaker 2: Be a value add in the room.

00:19:23
Speaker 1: The problem is, the idea of living like Joe and Jada is not really a good idea. The idea of living like me and how I live in terms of when you next to the athlete and stay in that space, it's what the focus should be because then they'll allow you to skip steps. A lot of people get to the point of skip steps. So I'm thankful for the opportunity that Lebron gave, but my ultimate respect for the opportunity gave and for him. What's the position I stand in now because I'm no longer dependent up him. And that's the most important important thing you can do. It's become independent of the person that actually gave you that opportunity because they didn't have to give it to you. So that's a blessing. My thought process was to go and build and build something. And when you asked me a question earlier, like about the bags, it's not saying I say how.

00:20:19
Speaker 3: Many bags you done caught to the point of where you was just like got another one.

00:20:25
Speaker 1: I never The thing about it is I never focused on the bag. You got to focus on the disruption of an industry that's going to bring all the bags, you know, and bags come in different.

00:20:36
Speaker 2: Shapes and sizes. But also it's not so much.

00:20:39
Speaker 1: As currency is more so a positioning because that's the actual bag.

00:20:43
Speaker 2: The bag ain't the money. The bag is the position.

00:20:46
Speaker 3: When it comes to this audio visual me and you reposition real right, be on the top tier.

00:20:56
Speaker 2: Now. But but but it's true.

00:20:57
Speaker 1: But to ask you a question, we represent over six hundred clients today. You know, shit, yeah, clap it off for that, So what TENN is whole type of shit? So a couple of years ago, we acquired my partners at UTA a company called roof, which is like one hundred and seventy europaying football is which is great.

00:21:23
Speaker 2: Then we grew to football business.

00:21:24
Speaker 1: Obviously the basketball business grew a little bit of baseball. But then we have a commercial side of business that's really grown at a rapid pace, and we're doing unbelievable work. And you know this stuff, you don't do it by yourself. Got an unbelievable team of people, and I think when you start at one place and obviously started a company.

00:21:46
Speaker 2: I started a company because I.

00:21:47
Speaker 1: Felt like players was only being viewed as transactions and I knew them as people coming from that side, working at shoe companies, working I played every role, though people don't.

00:21:58
Speaker 2: I don't know if people really understand. I played literally every row.

00:22:01
Speaker 3: Break that down on us, man, that's important for the people.

00:22:03
Speaker 1: I play every role from stylists to I decided the jury to watch, how to do put the lay together, all the way to being in commercials, writing on commercials, all the way to picking up you know, we did a commercial walk in my shoes and Calla was actually calling me on this crazy back then. They wanted to use this Curtis may feel sample and I was like, let's do something different from LJ because it was you know, he's so connected to the culture. Long story short, end up getting with Mike Will through my man Chubby made recipes earlier.

00:22:46
Speaker 2: Ruby.

00:22:48
Speaker 1: I was just happy to be talking to Chubby. Well there on the phone. He was asking me what I was working on. I was like, man, I'm trying to figure this.

00:22:53
Speaker 3: Chubby, No, chubby baby, No, Yesterday's price is not today's price. He threw the battery in my back that day after the battle. He was talking to so much shit. I went through the ig on and explaining the fucking verses. That's how I came up with yesterday's price is not to chuck the baby through the battery in my back.

00:23:12
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:23:13
Speaker 1: That led me to get on the phone with Mike Will. It was like, we need a hook for this, because I'm gonna call this kid called Sam Hook. Sam Hook wrote the hook, sent it to me.

00:23:24
Speaker 2: Listen to it.

00:23:25
Speaker 1: Who you hear on this and by us being from Ohio and John Legend being from Ohio, you went and got John Legend. So like going from the clothes the jewelry to this, That's what I'm saying. People don't underreally understand. Like the journey, and.

00:23:41
Speaker 2: By the way, we were still around.

00:23:45
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been around y'all for twenty plus years. But it's just one of those things where you it's okay to wait your turn and be observant while waiting your turn, not being what I would say, eager to be entitled, because there's an eagerness to entitlement when you're around talent.

00:24:09
Speaker 2: And it works even worse when you actually blood what you're.

00:24:13
Speaker 1: Going to do, fire your brother at the end, my mom, you know, so it gets a little it gets a little tricky.

00:24:21
Speaker 2: So I'm glad I was not not actual blood.

00:24:24
Speaker 1: But but I've always had this this mentality to build and to want to learn more and not know know at all sort of speak, and that kind of just led to other things, not really being complacent as you have more success.

00:24:39
Speaker 2: I've never really celebrated anything.

00:24:41
Speaker 1: That I've been able to do up to this point though, to be honest with you, I never popped a bio or champagne or had to drink.

00:24:50
Speaker 3: That's the biggest selex ever, never celebrating one. That's the only way to be celeb.

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00:26:43
Speaker 2: I can tell you two biggest.

00:26:44
Speaker 3: Mistakes this business. Back in the day, Say Rock him one of the greatest artists in the world.

00:26:50
Speaker 2: He would wait every four years to drop out.

00:26:54
Speaker 3: Somehow. When we first started rappers, even if they were ready to make an album, they were all shit for two three years and then drop a novel. That's just the way it was. The Little Wayne and them started dropping, and DMX started dropping albums every six months two and one year. That's when people knew, oh shit, we could drop. But before then it was like hurry up and wait. It was like you know, and.

00:27:18
Speaker 2: So you're sitting in your successes when you do that.

00:27:22
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you can't do that, because when you do that, it becomes settlement.

00:27:27
Speaker 3: What I'm saying to you is same thing with bags. Back in the days, I get a million dollars, two million dollars. I live in Miami. I'm like, yo, I'm not going out. I'm not going to work. I'm gonna hit the clubs, pop bottles, pop champagne.

00:27:41
Speaker 2: To the ship.

00:27:42
Speaker 3: Look like it's running out. Then I go out there and get the bag again. Big mistake, mistake.

00:27:47
Speaker 2: That bag has to be the opposite way.

00:27:50
Speaker 3: Actually, you actually gotta work more, right, So now it's like the horse. Let that go. The horse taxes investment that the course. Just be like, Yo, we gotta keep working, we gotta keep going. I wasn't like that, but nobody was.

00:28:06
Speaker 2: But you also didn't have the examples. Got to think.

00:28:10
Speaker 1: We come from a totally different environment. You come from a flip environment, not a compounding environment. See we only thought about the flip. They think about the compounding of it all. It's a totally different mentality.

00:28:23
Speaker 3: So break down the difference between flip real quick flipping compounding. I have ten this's a learning show. I have ten dollars. I want to make twenty. That's flipping compounding?

00:28:34
Speaker 1: Is I have ten dollars I'm putting that ten dollars away, don't I don't. I'm not touching it for the next ten years, and that ten dollars becomes, let's just say, first sake, one hundred grand. So if you go ten to twenty, twenty to forty forty to eighty eighty one sixty versus ten work, that's one hundred. Now you compound that hundred.

00:28:57
Speaker 3: How do you do when you got an athlete, then you represent that has six babies in one year, and what do you do?

00:29:05
Speaker 2: You have a real conversation with them on you.

00:29:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a justification for having that real conversation because I lived it, right, I don't you know growing.

00:29:14
Speaker 2: Up, that's what you lived it.

00:29:17
Speaker 1: So that was one of the things that I felt like the industry was missing.

00:29:22
Speaker 3: These guys.

00:29:23
Speaker 1: They can't you're not unrelatable, You can't relate and you really don't care. See that's the thing that goes over the head of most. But when you have all talent has an ego. We all do right talent, especially high level. So if you're feeding that ego with sweets while everything is going good, you miss out on a lot per se. But the vegetables and the nourishment don't sound good at the time where I'm at a high level, it only sounds great in need. You missed that conversation when it don't matter. I got twenty cars, I got.

00:30:07
Speaker 3: This that there.

00:30:08
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to hear that that's talent today, but you it should be the other way around. A lot of talent don't value expertise, especially in the sports business, because everyone thinks they can do your job.

00:30:22
Speaker 2: We work the hardest. It don't matter. I can't write like Jay I can't write like Joe, I can't perform it.

00:30:28
Speaker 1: But in sports, because you grow up so close to the player, I'm taking into practice of doing this, doing that. Everyone thinks that they can do the job because the talent it's shown, and the talent is actually the word.

00:30:44
Speaker 3: I have one of the biggest problems in the world with a good friend of mine. He was a good friend of mine, but his thing was, you know, he thought he could manage me. He would tell me, Yo, can I have meetings with jay z Ken. This is a street dude that ain't never have a nine to five in his life. He dead ass was asking me that, Yo, let me be jay Z. I got some ideas, Yo, I should manage you. Anybody that wants to work, and my crew has a job. Anybody I employed, maybe one hundred people, maybe even more. Any one of my friends that I grew up with that once a job, able to work, bring something to the table, they have a job. You see them everywhere in the stores, this and that. Now if I know, this guy don't want to work, never had a nine to five in his life, never did nothing successful but just float around the hood, hustle to hustle to hustle. He didn't understand, Yo, bro, you're not qualified to be my manager and run my career. You just can't do it. And he had a problem with it. He kept telling everybody tell her. At the end, it was like, you know, we have to fall out, fall out, fall out, cause he had to know, like, yo, my man, you never had a nana five Like.

00:32:01
Speaker 2: But see, I never really had nine to five either.

00:32:04
Speaker 3: No, I get that. But but we know who's qualified or who's gonna work, who's gonna put in that work.

00:32:10
Speaker 2: But here's the thing I always tell people.

00:32:12
Speaker 1: With your friend, right, if I would have talked to him, I would have said, no, you don't need to meet with jay Z.

00:32:18
Speaker 2: Go and find a guy with the qualifications that Joe would see to meet with jay Z. You still get in the credit. If I bring the guy to you with the qualification and the capabilities, you're gonna be like, oh shit, now I'm building a little equity in that bank of your trust. From a business perspective, you're my friend. I trust you from that perspective. But from a business perspective, it's different. Now you make.

00:32:44
Speaker 3: Only had one friend. I have a trusted blindage right, rest in peace, my brother Raoul. When I signed my big deal and no negotiated, they I had a deal, right, Young big Punk comes out, he's selling like crazy. Every record label was like fat Joe, we need the next Spanish guys. So we sit down and they wouldn't let me go. I was in one of them negotiations where they were like, Yo, you can't leave. We're gonna work this thing. We're gonna this deal. Kaiser did that to me? You know fine, that's who did that?

00:33:22
Speaker 2: Did that?

00:33:22
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't cause it was all Craig coming. But the crash safe. The point I'm saying is we close the deal, we jump up and down, y'all while.

00:33:33
Speaker 2: We made it. We kids.

00:33:35
Speaker 3: We came from street street street to get a legit check like that. We felt like we robbed the planet Earth. We walk out, y'all part of my management team. I got a beat in the marrow. One o'clock, see tomorrow, one o'clock, one o'clock, come to a clock, Come three o'clock, Come four o'clock, Come five o'clock, comes six a seventh.

00:33:59
Speaker 2: I get it.

00:34:00
Speaker 3: Call yourself god, you're huh. We had a meet and one o'clock I got three bitches here, nigga.

00:34:07
Speaker 2: I was in all.

00:34:08
Speaker 3: I said, Okay, not for you, It's not for you. This is one of my most trusted guys. I love to death in my life. I had to tell them more frip, like Yo, this ain't for you.

00:34:20
Speaker 2: You you ain't on point with the ky that's what kyp. What's that?

00:34:26
Speaker 3: Know your person person, know your personality. Yeah, I mean I know every rule. I've been doing business for so long. I know every rule. I ain't got to read the forty eight laws. I ain't got a KYP. I've been through every scenario and you could fuck in the dress. Oh that's this, that's that.

00:34:44
Speaker 2: I don't go.

00:34:45
Speaker 3: I've been through all that ship, you know what I'm saying, And I gave opportunities even when I knew that certain people ain't need opportunities. I say it is to guess part is that survivors were more when you try to bring everybody with you.

00:35:01
Speaker 1: I went through that, you know what. I'm sorry, but that thing is it's hard. I'm blessed because I don't. I don't really have that.

00:35:10
Speaker 2: You don't see many friends like that that you grew up with, Like I.

00:35:13
Speaker 1: Have a tother friends as I grew up with, but we all was together. We just have a it's a strange dynamic that I have my friends. They was positioned with me, so we have a different perspective on it, right, and then there's a pride that comes with it. Obviously understand that. But I tell them right away I'm not I'm not obligating to do nothing for you, especially now.

00:35:35
Speaker 2: You wouldn't know.

00:35:36
Speaker 3: What's crazy is I've been through so much in my life. Somebody told me the other day, I'm looking at some shit. Somebody I know knows the person, and he turned around and say, y'all, dude, to bump be you in a bump immediately, like a fucking flower blooming. I said, I understood because I met some bums in my life. Bums don't want to work, want to do the falla shit to get it to this. This a bum is about, I know, women, bums. I'm talking about bums. You know what a bum is? A bum is if you gave him the most money in the world, they would have holes in they wall in the mansion. They'll be sliding down the stairs. They will fuck your shit up. They don't give a fuck. They are going to be bums where any they can hit the lottery, and they're gonna be bums no matter what the fuck they do. It's sad that I've been dealing with so many different type of people that the minute someone told me somebody I trust to yo on me he's a bum, I said, Okay, I got it. I know what this is. I don't gotta deal with him or none. I'm watching social media. It was like, nah, that's a bum. He's a bum when you know him, he's a I'm like, okay, so he's about to cross somebody about the ship.

00:37:05
Speaker 2: On everything, this, this, this?

00:37:07
Speaker 3: You know these guys are you know I met people like that that there's nothing you could do to change them. You give them anything, they could polish you. You could take an up and coming wrapper, polish them, throw the gear on them, the jury that this this, this, this, this a bum is a bum.

00:37:25
Speaker 2: We're not gonna throw the flag what I'm doing.

00:37:28
Speaker 3: Now, take an up and coming wrapper and do what up and coming wrapper. Throw the jury on him thing, you know, get him an image to everything, and may that coffee is like it the minute.

00:37:41
Speaker 2: I used to hustle.

00:37:43
Speaker 3: Not all I do is relax and when and then I was a fan of the Jackson five.

00:37:47
Speaker 2: But listen, I used to hustle.

00:37:51
Speaker 3: And I was second in command without going in further right, and I did good. And I used to hear these guys in my face all the time. I thank you for not killing me for my slot. That's one thing I learned later. I said, man, you was something else, but they ain't kill you in the fucking staircase. It should have killed me a couple of times because I was in the way right. But I would hear them say all the time, Yo, fuck Joe. You know why is Joe running the show?

00:38:21
Speaker 2: This? This? This? We all equal.

00:38:22
Speaker 3: We all grew up together as kids like Cinderella, I leave the drug game alone. But we was making tons of money be to rap. Did Apollo get a deal? I'm gone. We had a run.

00:38:35
Speaker 2: You hear me.

00:38:36
Speaker 3: Everybody bends out, beam out this and that. They took over less than three to six months. They was bums back on the block, bums like they had a gold mine. All you gotta do is open the shop and you and you and you caked up. They found the way to bum it out. And all these years I'm working with these guys, I keep hearing the saying, Yo, why Joe's second?

00:39:01
Speaker 2: Why Joe this? This? This?

00:39:03
Speaker 3: They couldn't do nothing with it, you know. So it's certain people. You know, it's like the horse. You need him the water and the motherfucker. You know, if they're not gonna drink, it's over.

00:39:14
Speaker 2: Shoot him in the head.

00:39:16
Speaker 3: How do you deal with life? You know, it's a very hard job, Like how do you deal when you know, uh, yo, bro, I don't dealt with affluws. I don't dealt with athletes that you know. You know, your mom's just getting take advantage of if you see how they are with the young dude and you caked up, and your mom's like.

00:39:39
Speaker 2: I don't do it, Yeah, but you still gotta deal. Like, what do you do, man?

00:39:45
Speaker 3: What do you do when you tell a god like do you tell a guy like yo.

00:39:49
Speaker 2: Tell your muster get rid of a boyfriend? No?

00:39:52
Speaker 3: Do they know he can't?

00:39:54
Speaker 2: That's not my place. I don't. I don't really get get into that.

00:39:57
Speaker 1: But I thought you was gonna ask me a different question what I was gonna ask. I thought you're gonna ask me what do you do when a guy gets to like the NBA but don't really take advantage of it or not really you know they're satisfied.

00:40:11
Speaker 2: I was not talking about that.

00:40:12
Speaker 3: I was talking about what you see one of your your athletes just getting taken advantage of what it depends.

00:40:18
Speaker 2: I don't family stuck, you don't get involved. Nah, it's not my place, man.

00:40:23
Speaker 3: I've seen that shit so much where I was just like, but you know me, I'm dumb like that.

00:40:27
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, if I.

00:40:28
Speaker 3: Got an artist and I really love you and all that, I'm gonna sit you down and tell you yo, and I'm discovering a lot of artists. Could I could break that down to you and I would tell them.

00:40:39
Speaker 2: Like, yo, you fucking up. But you just this, that's different. What's you out of here? Those that's three different things. Okay, okay. There's a difference.

00:40:48
Speaker 1: Between keeping it very authentic and honest with someone you represent and getting in the middle of something that has to do with them and their wife or you whatever, that those are separate.

00:41:04
Speaker 2: He can't do that.

00:41:05
Speaker 3: I lost severy time we're telling me, you never try to tell my friend. Yeah, yeah, you can't. Every time. Let me tell you, guys, if you want your friend and you see his wife doing something you don't really like, unfortunately, you gotta stay out of that area because they gonna make you and now you're the back. It happened to me legendary. At first, I thought it was keeping it real. I bring the dude to his wife, like, yo, look what's going on this next thing? I know I'm not his man. No more like that, he back with his wife. I give up on that.

00:41:44
Speaker 1: I did learn though, the ten days I spent in college, I learned that one of the ten days I had to college, I saw my friend.

00:41:52
Speaker 2: He was playing bar in a junior at JUCO. I got to flip joint. I'm in the student center. I didn't give them the whole.

00:42:04
Speaker 1: But I'm just like, you might need to check home, man, just you know the next day I'm back in the student I get the egg mcmuffet joint.

00:42:12
Speaker 2: Every morning. Here they come. Yeah, I'm like, oh, are you so far man? Yeah? Yeah, ye, I like.

00:42:19
Speaker 1: So I so from there. But also you learn I learned that from my uncles and aunts.

00:42:23
Speaker 2: You just learned so much. I just don't stay. Yeah, that stuff you can't.

00:42:28
Speaker 3: I'm but I was in trouble because I used to really leave with my heart. Yeah that I would sit down and tell somebody y'all, you should watch this and this and that, and they would take it wrong or mayby like I'm too strong or whatever. But I'm like, you know the way I look at it. But you're dealing with a different Yeah, you're dealing with athletes. They know when they're ten years old, they're going to the league if they stay straight. Were dealing with dysfunction, new motherfucker rappers, all type of shit. They ain't got no father their whole life, and I, Joseph Carter Gina give them the opportunity. It's my choice if I like to time a fella or not to make him a rapper, use all my juice to give him the beats, to produce this, to ask Jada Kiss to rap on his record, to this and this and that to now they're millionaires. Right, you gave him that like that that that was the opportunity they was looking for, you know. And then so sometimes you want to give him some advice when you see him headed straight for a crash, you be like, yo, you know you're gonna fuck this up. You know, That's how I deal with it on on another level. But you know something most people ain't never really understand what I was trying to tell him till years later where I had conversations with them. It was like, y'all, wish I shouldn't listen to you. A lot of people I wish I would have listened to it.

00:43:53
Speaker 2: And you said it.

00:43:54
Speaker 3: Earlier, you know, you young right, well, you want to know what's up with rap today, standing today. But what I'm trying to tell you is about somebody telling me, yo, why you don't talk to them young boys? Joe, you the old g TE in the list, and when they hit you got a young boy that the survival rate, fucker survival rate, the getting on rate and rapping being successful. It's a lot of guys. Every time I see somebody die on the news that they say rapper, corpola papete. We never heard of this person them't they? What makes of a rapp up? Qualify some Jada. I'm looking at the news. She's an aspiring rapper. Bitch ain't got a demo, So I'm keeping it a buck, right, So I turned around, let alone a survival rate. I've been telling people this all the time, and this is why people they get mad at me sometimes because I gotta tell you the truth. You think, cause you black or brown, you gotta evil hoop or you gotta rap, and that's it. It's in your mind. You're doing one or the other, right. And so they come and they go, yo, you know, I'm a rapper, but just somebody coming to you. It's three people coming to your show. Is anybody downloading your raps? It's anybody? So you're not really this is not really a professional a professionist figure, is you gain't one of the news this same man? Yeah, well you got one percent if they sit and wrap.

00:45:27
Speaker 2: I understand that our business is a lot different.

00:45:30
Speaker 1: What's similar to that is there's times like rankings in our business.

00:45:35
Speaker 2: So you could be ranked number one, but I wasn't.

00:45:37
Speaker 3: Let's let me let me finish this work because I'm going to forget. You know, I get the old Simon's and all that. Listen what I'm saying. How can I talk to a young kid that I know is the exception. He's beyond the one percent, he's less than the one percent and he became successful. How can I sit and tell that nineteen year old kid that made twenty million dollars and got his whole crew around him and all that, Yo, this ain't there. You gotta get focused this. He don't want to hear that ship from me. No, he's straight up like, you can't. I don't know the answer that you can't tell him anything. Today you got and you got a lot of dumb athletes too. It's a lot of dumb athletes switched now. I'm telling you the truth. These motherfucker's is dumb. I used to coach at the Wucker Bro God God listen.

00:46:25
Speaker 1: By the way, just so you know, I was there Blackout. We flew in to drop fifty on your team.

00:46:35
Speaker 3: Fifty. We had alan.

00:46:37
Speaker 2: I talked about it.

00:46:38
Speaker 3: We talked about Alan Iverson, We had Melo Anthony, We had Stephano, Maull Burry, we had everybody, so they all would have been dropping fifty were kicking. If you asked your kill O'Neil, you win. If you just got Lebron straight out of high school, you're not winning that game.

00:46:56
Speaker 2: Bro.

00:46:57
Speaker 3: We had the biggest in the game there too. We had Carmelo right after the championship. We had Stephan Marlbury, highest paid player in the league at that time. We had Alan Arbson, We have Mike Bibby. How more you want? You want Zach Randolph, you want your Maine O'Neil, you want, like, who the fuck? We didn't have Listen? Oh no, brother, brother, you didn't have listen. That was young Braun. That was a prince. He wasn't the king yet. So that black By the way, I flicked school with that blackout hit Joe. There was nobody on the planet matter than I was. I wouldn't even think about the blackout. I wanted to be in that that atmosphere game that never happened.

00:47:39
Speaker 2: I was also in the radio station.

00:47:42
Speaker 3: Talk about it. People forget that.

00:47:45
Speaker 1: That was It was great, great. I loved every bit of it. I loved every bit of it.

00:47:50
Speaker 3: Oh, what's that story you told was in the in the air going to Paris? By the way, No, he wasn't. He was there for the blackout.

00:47:57
Speaker 2: He was in the rest.

00:48:00
Speaker 3: Left that pulled up, All right, listen, Cooling Dre pulled up and they saw jay Z in the back. He was out there. It was the blackout. He left when they were scheduled two days later. That's when I believe you guys were in here the day of the game to make up game. I did not see no players coming out of the over. They left the next day. All of that hype, it was old.

00:48:24
Speaker 2: We left the next day. Hype of the first game with the black guy was never gonna be left.

00:48:28
Speaker 3: The chance they were acting like they were here. They went to the radio, they were no, we was here the next game. They scheduling. When I come was okay. By the way, I walk in with my players. They've seen them out there. There's pictures of all my players out there. These guys never came. We was back. We was back. They were gone. Everybody was back in camp and all that everybody I was there off, nobody came. What do you want me to do you got Shaquille O'Neil, you win, you don't. It was a game. I'm talking about Ai, I'm talking about Mike Bibby when he's an All Star at that time, I'm talking about Stephan Moireberry, Sebastian Telfair.

00:49:11
Speaker 2: We already know he wasn't gonna he ain't had nothing for Steph on Yo, you crazy man. This was a good game. It was gonna be a good game.

00:49:19
Speaker 3: Thank god it didn't that because I wouldn't be sitting in Rock Nation getting money with these people. That thing was a disaster waiting to happen. That was one step Kaboom Junior Mafia clears the room. That shit was. That was a terrible thing. After that radio that shit happed me.

00:49:36
Speaker 4: Man.

00:49:37
Speaker 3: It went from Fat Joe to the basketball to fat Joe Army fatigue.

00:49:41
Speaker 2: Like it was like, oh no, the got talking crazy.

00:49:44
Speaker 3: You know one time people you know now comments and all that one time people were very selective with how they talked.

00:49:51
Speaker 2: About Fat Joe out there.

00:49:54
Speaker 3: Very it was a different time. Can we do toast for the Sneaker and Rich Paul just lessing us the new show what's it called?

00:50:13
Speaker 2: Game Over? Game Over? You know what that means.

00:50:16
Speaker 3: I like Max, one of the best game over.

00:50:21
Speaker 2: I'll give you one more thing, can Coon two thousand and four. Talk to your ship, it's Paul. Tell him who was there? Just paint the picture.

00:50:32
Speaker 1: Listen what S and S did for lean back. You never seen how many times the man played that ship out there one hundred times in a row. Being meth was out there one hundred times in a row. Everybody who mad it was out there, and that can Coon. It was a party of Memorial weekend.

00:50:52
Speaker 2: In both from city to daddy Os City.

00:50:56
Speaker 1: There's only two clubs, so we're going across the street. But S and S, by the way, was best.

00:51:03
Speaker 2: It was.

00:51:04
Speaker 3: He's one of the greatest here. You know we still employ yes, and that's we still give them shows all the time. Anybody kept the lawyer with us. Anybody who didn't take the bag at that blackout time, they still my brothers and we still take care of them now nobody. Yeah, they had a lot of bags out there. They tried to hire. They took my man John Strict. That's my play about Strict. Was Strict. They took Straty flipped the Strict was that dude?

00:51:32
Speaker 2: They lived them.

00:51:33
Speaker 3: They tried to flip Kareem Kareem. They left them a bag and read Kareem Reid. Yeah, and he was my main if we know, no, no Kareem read, I have no championship.

00:51:44
Speaker 2: Speaking of the trolling, where's my well?

00:51:46
Speaker 1: I can't even I don't even want him now. But twenty years ago, I got you rich On, Joe. I need those joints we had them on. I got you rich never never.

00:51:56
Speaker 2: You gotta remind me no sneakers, no he hos graze, then don't send me the plastic ts joint? Did you get to the the kids? Let me tell you something. Thank you for the sneakers. Thank you for the sneakers you gave us in the new show Game over.

00:52:14
Speaker 3: We know it's gonna be highly successful. You know what I'm saying. We know it's gonna be holly Yo. You a funny dude. You know I'm with you in the champions all right, let's take the sip.

00:52:24
Speaker 2: Dude. Let me tell you about rich Sport.

00:52:26
Speaker 3: We in the champion we in the Knicks is in the championship game one of your players lost who they was playing for Boston or something like that. Last year for the year before sixes. That was so the he go Maxiere. So I'm on the court, which Baul comes on, Yo, crack, what's up this this dad?

00:52:47
Speaker 2: He said, Yo, my player, I said, them guys got packed up. They gotta go. Like next morning, I fly to la.

00:52:53
Speaker 3: I got a meeting at the Polo Lounge and I'm up in there. I'm talking about nine in the morning. I'm eating at the Polo Laws and I look to the right, Rich Fauls in the next stable age, Joe, how you like, Yo?

00:53:08
Speaker 2: He hit your rich Paul that day you learn fat jokes.

00:53:12
Speaker 3: He's everywhere. That guy crossed the country.

00:53:16
Speaker 2: He knew that. I knew that already. Ah Man.

00:53:18
Speaker 3: I looked to the side. I said, God, damn, this guy out here nine in the morning. Like what we was on the same flight as some shit that shit crazy run from acting you from Cleveland from Cleveland?

00:53:29
Speaker 2: Yeah. How important is it to give back? Two ways?

00:53:32
Speaker 1: To give back in ways that's helpful, in ways that's impactful, passing out turkeys and things like that, that's helpful. The impactfulness is being able to create things that provide opportunities. You also give back through education too. I think when people say give back. It's like, oh, you didn't get me nothing to go in my pome.

00:53:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, education is incredible. Well did out there with that school is amazing.

00:53:58
Speaker 1: So for me, my give back is I get back in a number of ways. And I don't I don't want nothing. I do a lot of things that I don't want to know pub from it. Sometimes I do things and people don't even know I've done things. People don't even know it. But it's very important though, because I was one of those kids that the community raids, and I was one of those kids that.

00:54:22
Speaker 2: Y'all came to the strip club, the strip clo.

00:54:28
Speaker 3: Like y'all Yeahmunity strip Club.

00:54:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a show. I was there. It was on Cleveland States. I forgot where it was.

00:54:37
Speaker 3: But anyway, I'll tell you one thing, right, I tell you my father from Cuba rest in peace. No, my father never gave me a compliment in my life. Okay, he never said great song, even though he was Cuban, thank you for buying me my home twenty years ago. Whatever, it's nothing they bills for thirty years. The only time he ever gave me a compliment was when he see me in the middle of the street giving out turkeys and feeding the people. He said, that makes me proud, proud of you, son, for looking out for the people. And so there's many ways. You you're correct, there's many ways. There's ways inspired. You know, we got stores, our stores, stores, huh that with your dad. Yeah, we got two stores where single parent moms are the managers. One of them just bought a first home. Ever, there's so many different ways of giving back and impacting the community. You just gotta do it. And the problem I got is the people that don't give back, complaining about somebody giving back. So it's never enough, it's never how you do it. So you got he got, we got a best friend, grumpy Jim Jones. Right, but now Jim Jones gives back. Okay, Jim Jones don't give back, because right there I see him give back all the time in the community, whether it's clothes, whether it's coats, whether it's turkeys, whether it's this, He's front line with the giving back. I don't know what happened, but I could tell that lady skipped the line three times. I'm out there. I'm outside like I'm there, I'm on the line.

00:56:22
Speaker 2: I see the six family members, I know them more.

00:56:24
Speaker 3: They all waiting for the turkey with the grocery, the six the daughter, the son that this. At some point you could say, yo, you know young, you know some people you got one of you took six turkeys and the voucher for the food. I know, I just choose to mind my business.

00:56:41
Speaker 2: You know.

00:56:42
Speaker 3: Jim out there, he got a little man and lady skipped three times. I make him look like, yeah, it's all over social media, but and make him look like he a bad guy because he los his patience. But anybody who from the hood hood know they trying to skip the line, you know. And so I look at the comments and everybody we posts, they talk bad about somebody, But you ain't giving that.

00:57:06
Speaker 1: You ain't changed some people that's got the mill on say go in fact, it being unbothered, Joe.

00:57:11
Speaker 2: You can't worry about what somebody talking about own social media showing no hoodie show them. That's what you know. I can't worry about that. Yeah I do that, and I want to smoke whatever, but you can't.

00:57:24
Speaker 3: I want every I know we're putting our foot in your ass even when we don't.

00:57:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's what I tell you legendary ship right now.

00:57:32
Speaker 3: Let me tell you better study this podcast because we are changing the whole DNA. This is entertainment. This is like coming home to watch Martin a fucking Cosme show. It's just just it ain't done. No, sure, we ain't look one time. So mister Paul, when you graduated high school? This that ship dinosaur.

00:57:52
Speaker 1: By the way, I told my team they gave me this thing in the car.

00:57:57
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, you know, here's the talking points.

00:58:00
Speaker 1: Was like, these guys aren't following that.

00:58:03
Speaker 2: I can guarantee you that I doing that.

00:58:05
Speaker 3: We're shooting this ship from there.

00:58:09
Speaker 4: I told you about life about this.

00:58:13
Speaker 1: But you know my team is they alto prepared, which I'm thankful for.

00:58:18
Speaker 2: But I thought about it. I'm like Joe and Jason is not smiling.

00:58:22
Speaker 3: They don't look like our guys.

00:58:25
Speaker 2: Them. What is just look like? Our guys look like they know what the bubonic chronic this this?

00:58:33
Speaker 4: Nah?

00:58:34
Speaker 2: Let me tell you them with that joke.

00:58:36
Speaker 3: Your guys they all got listen. Our staff is great. Let me tell you something. We have a great staff. Ain't none of them got the lines like him? You see them ship like he rose with that ship Mike he got this ship. Two women here with me.

00:58:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, on the point.

00:58:57
Speaker 3: Listen, let me tell you something. Your risk for war uses both god, man, let me tell you but this is not dinosaur, not lately, because I'm in the game. Every now and then I lurk and I look at a little sumthing and I said, damn everything we know. I'm just keeping it a buck. I want everybody to get a dollar. But dang't us we entertaining? We get we dropped close closest you think, like closest to us.

00:59:27
Speaker 2: Don't get No, he's about to tell you something crazy.

00:59:30
Speaker 3: Don't look. You know they're not us. You want to know why, because we're Chuck and Shock. We got the chips Kenny. He got the Kenny leg.

00:59:39
Speaker 2: I got the Kenny leg.

00:59:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got the Kenny spirit. I'm more like Kenny.

00:59:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, we chucky there.

00:59:49
Speaker 3: You know what you're here. You're training here, Yo, you might have showed me how to straighten the leg out. Man, I can't take this man's new It's there a way off, hold on, hold on, it's there way. Your man trades nothing else.

01:00:05
Speaker 2: Don't care. He can't give him anything, giant balltender.

01:00:08
Speaker 3: It's there a way for me to straighten out my leg like legally or is it like an operation calisthenic. Oh, you don't know about fucking boy he knows the human body. He don't know about away from me all fucked up for a lot.

01:00:27
Speaker 2: He can't fix your leg.

01:00:30
Speaker 3: He can fix your jesty shoulders, you know, but donna give me the list off your leg is strike right. There's a way to do it right, Joe my Son seventy six ship of operation for my leg. He got them fucked up out there they think of my leg.

01:00:46
Speaker 2: Here lords in London.

01:00:50
Speaker 3: Up and y see we got these These are snow ships. This is like having a heater all this is. He's a snow Those are fire on my sea.

01:00:59
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

01:01:00
Speaker 3: For there, that's the timely way you get the right shoot. They I gotta go stores up tail the Bronx haul in Washington Knights.

01:01:08
Speaker 2: They gave him a twelve and ten and a half Timbo.

01:01:12
Speaker 3: He came up and he was like, yeah, you know, cells dropped after that, yo, yo, yo, yo, kiss your word is gold in the hood. Our cells dropped after that. Little ladies and gentlemen.

01:01:25
Speaker 2: I went back.

01:01:26
Speaker 3: They took care of me they had. They had a Krispy box for me, and they gave me the right. Make sure you shot up.

01:01:32
Speaker 2: Man, your word is golden. Let me ask you she's hit him with that?

01:01:36
Speaker 3: Let me ask your bounty when you hit hit bound, kiss his dressing, his age, and to me, he's flying, you know. Now, A lot of they call us tween ages and ship like that.

01:01:49
Speaker 2: They call you.

01:01:50
Speaker 3: They talking about if you got a quarter zipper or something. You are old man on day a quarter zippers. I just capped the four quarter zip for sure. Quarter ships. No, no, the quarter four thousand dollars lord reading it now? The quarter quarters trying to fucking disrespect Air Force one. They say, his granddad's shoes.

01:02:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't. That can't be.

01:02:21
Speaker 3: Are you with new balance?

01:02:23
Speaker 2: Yeah?

01:02:24
Speaker 3: You you like a don Jesus, you're like a don king. Don king come in the ring with a Mexican and Puerto Rican fly whoever won.

01:02:31
Speaker 2: That's the ship he walking on the way when you put her.

01:02:34
Speaker 3: Motherfucker like that. He came with the wedding, he left with them with him. That's the cody. Le's the cody. Now that's gonna be like the coda. No, No, that's not gonna happen just when you put these on. Oh, I know it's your risk for you, bucker.

01:02:51
Speaker 2: Wat should you yo Joe? When you when you when you put the.

01:02:54
Speaker 3: Layout put them joints up there? Oh no, we want to do it.

01:02:58
Speaker 1: By the way, use I had to get a whole new got coming everything.

01:03:03
Speaker 2: I brought a class.

01:03:04
Speaker 3: Don't do that. I brought a classic out.

01:03:06
Speaker 2: Now that you do that, wait for him.

01:03:12
Speaker 3: Christmas.

01:03:13
Speaker 2: No, believe my business.

01:03:14
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm not business. Fay give me a day tune of Christmas.

01:03:19
Speaker 2: I got a gift for you, by the way, I got a gift coming for you by you get a Daytona in the the mins for Chris.

01:03:25
Speaker 3: I never said nothing about no day timing. I don't know what niggas from you. It might be a fucking Lettuce rap because he's sold vegetarian is rap. That ship might be nobody. I got a gift for you, though, that's that's no bullshit. I got a nice, thoughtful gift for you that you're gonna truly enjoy.

01:03:45
Speaker 2: Brother, what's a watch? Who wants the next to what? But your risk?

01:03:49
Speaker 3: Ball? This ain't that, that, ain't this crack ain't just gotta get the noise for Rick

01:04:00
Speaker 4: The Thirsty

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