Club 520 - Kevin Garnett tells Jeff Teague about talking trash to Michael Jordan, Vince Carter Team USA dunk

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Hennessy may for more. 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:41.040 Please enjoy Hennessy Responsibly twenty one and over only all right, 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:43.120 we back you know what it is Club five twenty 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.320 podcast Special Editions Shout out to Hennessy for the love 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:50.080 either in the world famous dres Las Vegas, Nevada Special 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:50.800 Special Guests. 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:51.480 We got a legends. 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:53.640 Into my left, we're gonna introduce my man's last. 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.040 But to my far left, we got my dog Bishop 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:58.320 be hearing out the perles, how you would nasty. 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:01.280 Cool and nasty. We love pee Yes, sir, we live 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.040 chill oud, pay we live. 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:06.400 Ticket. 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:08.520 I know you you know what I'm saying you shoe 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.000 a fishingado. Have you ever seen the black forces with 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:12.040 the white license before? 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:15.160 No, I ain't. I ain't seen that one. I ain't 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:19.280 seen that one just yet. I got them sixteen fifteen fifteen. Yeah, 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.800 I got you, Bro, Okay, say let's yeah, your your 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:26.679 Air Force one guy for sure? God sure, air Force one. Okay, Okay, 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.360 that's what sup and your style of play. This is 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:34.040 very fitting the demon in you, the barking in you, 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:38.440 the dog in you. Air Force one white license, she 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.560 she waters, Bro, she was a air Force one guy. 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.680 She water ones that came up here. Yeah, that's the 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.000 ankles and stuff, but it is still you can come 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:51.400 to Dres or go to Rutger in there. Okay, Rocky 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:55.360 about to say this looked like some ship. Yeah, I'm 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:57.560 just your head. Go ahead, I ain't gonna go ahead. 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.000 I see your show out, I see you ready, I'm 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:07.720 ready to though, right the referee joint song, go ahead. 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:10.000 Talk about right my dog young not your team. You 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.160 got you up, man. I'm chilling Bro and Dres having 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:13.960 a good time. We got a legend in the building, man, 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:15.000 I'm geeked, bro. 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:18.240 Man, legend, legend, legend to my left Man the ticket. 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.000 You know this is man, one of the best basketball 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.760 players of all time, fifteen time All Star and was 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.040 poorly All Star and dres ticket. 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:28.000 We appreciate you pluting the five twenty Big Doll. 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:32.320 Thank y'all for having me, Dugs, thank you being here. 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:32.480 Man. 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:33.560 I love y'all ship Man. 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:35.680 We appreciate it. Man, we just talk about the feast. 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:36.600 You know what I'm saying for me, You know what 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:38.400 I'm saying. I'm an OD ticket fan. I know your 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:40.160 rookie year. You came out in a concourse. You know 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.600 what I'm saying. Yeah, So I've been to it the past, Levis, 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.919 But you done have so many heat shoes. What's one 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:47.840 of your favorite signature shoes you ever had? 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.240 Well, to be honest, man, I had something to do 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.600 every time you seen my name on the shoe. I 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:57.800 had some input in that, and I thought that that 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.920 changed a lot of the the concept because if you 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:05.000 went Nike, your Adidas, they're coming there with a pre 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:08.600 concept already that they've having a line of so many 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.520 other things. And you know I was taught earlier, man, 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:13.799 that's something represent representing you. You want to be able 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.360 to have your your at least you're taken and what 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:20.600 comes from you. So yeah, I think probably my obviously 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:22.360 when you first get your shoe and then being with 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.200 Nike getting the shoe right. So Garnet warm is always 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.840 a special place just because that's my first take that 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.320 your shoe, and then to see it perform and then 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:34.280 get to Garnet three and have it be like one 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.000 of their best sellers and kids come, you know, running 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:40.720 up on me with you know, just showing their appreciation. 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:46.080 I got to tag some of my my my neighborhood 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:47.720 on it with OBF on the bottom. I was in 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:51.240 young State. It was going ninety seven, nine eight. Was 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:52.800 it a lot? You know, it was love. It was going. 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.200 You know, Jeff didn't think I was gonna make it. 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:56.640 Every talking about I was gonna be out the league 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.160 in two years. They were talking crazy. They were tripping. 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:01.360 I don't know what they drinking and taking. I don't know, 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:07.120 but but damn sure wasn't nah. But yeah, man, the 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.640 Flight Posites was was another shoe that I'm sticking out 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.440 the Nike shoes with some of the best shoes because 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:17.279 of just of the technology that not Nike goes doing. 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.800 Push you and Jeffy noticed. Man, they got so many 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.720 different comforts and cushions that they can pat and put 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.440 in your shoe. But then Adidas, you know I had, 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:27.440 I had a short run and one that was cool, 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:31.720 but Adidas had another level of technology that I can't 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:33.839 speak on my first My first thing to shoot with 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:37.760 them was through the roof and very comfortable shoe. But yeah, 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:39.520 those are shoes that just stand out right away to 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.480 just you know, that made that to me, made a difference. 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:44.240 And that's what so far about you. 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:45.719 Obviously, we know you were a champion, we know you 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:47.839 got crazy on the court, but to have such an 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.240 impact to the culture, like we were talking before the 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:53.280 Jamie Fox episode, you know what I'm saying, man, we 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:54.400 had the real crossover. 0:04:56.360 --> 0:05:02.440 Was trying to take Fancy from Fancy was choosing what 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:02.839 he said. 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:04.760 He couldn't find a KG jersey, so he had to 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:05.600 get the Wally. 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:14.320 Shout to Jake Fox. That was a fire cameo. Bro, 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.760 that was cool. That was cool. That was a cool joy. 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:18.640 That was a real cool joy you said. 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.120 You know what I'm saying, I had before we even 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.719 get you. Gotta talk about your interaction, man. I loved 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:24.120 the heacnpartments for but tell the. 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:27.119 People man, now, when I first came here, I told Joe, Yeah, nigga, 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:30.600 I did growl at you. Yeah, you know what it was. Absolutely. 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.400 We played them in the playoffs and I dunked on 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.640 ray allity in the preseason. I got a tech and 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.440 I was barking doing my thing and I had the 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.800 game win a shot and I ir bought it and 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:44.720 he followed me through the tunnel, was. 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:48.039 Like, don't funk with the basketball guys. You're not like that. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:49.200 Don't do that. 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.159 And for we played them in the playoffs and like 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:53.560 I had a good game game one. 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:54.520 He would not. 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.560 Say, like who I was because I don't know him. 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:02.200 Who you talking about? Damn? 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:01.360 You know? 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:03.520 We played up with the guard. 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:05.359 He came out, he slapped the floor, got on like 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.080 all flour and started growding. 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.560 Well you scared the traumatized. 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.160 I was like, this is my moment. I I ain't 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:16.000 gonna forget this. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:20.359 Cob had the hissing Cob hits at you. I was 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.240 on my DM next ship. I want the crowd. I 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:24.560 want to see where niggas was at. You know what 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:26.919 I'm saying he talking about. I just want to to 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:27.599 say my name. 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.080 I was like, man, I just want dollars me, bro, 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:33.280 but supposed to be like. 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.400 You weren't showing fans get money out here. He was 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.560 talking that ship. Young fella had confidence. I had watched 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.040 him and wake forwards. You know I had followed you 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.320 and you got right to it White when you got 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:46.799 in the league, you had a lot of confidence in yourself. 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:48.680 And when you punched it on Ray. The reason why 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.279 I was really upset was because anything to the basket 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.640 were supposed to put a nigga on his ass. Ray 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:55.880 went for the blocking. You know, young fella flustered. It 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:59.279 wasn't you know, it's basketball. So yeah, I was just 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:03.600 trying to smash is Pauls destroy his confidence. You know 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:05.800 what I'm saying. I was on some like nine well 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.440 the names on when you bought it, you know how 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.160 I mean. You know what I'm saying. He throw this 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.640 on his back, make sure he don't forget this. Then 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.480 I was just standing on him every time I see him. 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.400 I wasn't shaking his hand, get him like you. I mean. 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:20.960 But but the whole time I'm watching how you react 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.440 to it, because it's pissing him off. The more. He 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.440 getting pissed off, he coming spinning and then he and 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.520 that's what I want. I want to his best and 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:30.040 I wanted to make him angry and I wanted to 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.320 play against that. And then later on in his career, 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.920 man walk boom shop boy. Gee you good boy, I'm 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.960 good boom And that's the respect of it that was earned. 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:39.240 So you know what I'm saying. 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:41.840 My brother was like nah, tickets said, you're good bro. 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.520 You I like, nah, took care of your little brother. 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.200 That just because of the respect to have for you. 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:51.000 Real shit, I appreciate that, sure, young And I said, 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:51.840 what up, it's my dog. 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:53.440 I got you real for sure. 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:53.720 Man. 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.640 Listen, man, you you have so many fire moments. Yo. 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:57.559 U lusa's career. 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.640 But we all from Indianapolis, Indiana, and my high school 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:01.760 basketball is. 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.000 One player that we have a very high regard for. 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.040 You have a famous slip for it, my man aj 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.320 Air Gordon dog that clip for him visiting that shot, 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:13.200 he said, hell no, trash, It's one of my favorite 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:14.320 clips of all time. 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.840 Man, I'm gonna keep it one hundred. Man. You know 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.200 I'm a savant and you know I know my ship. 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.040 So when I get out here, I'm watching. I know players, 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.200 I know what they can and can't do. So you know, 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.040 he Gardon went through a rough little patch when he 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.160 was playing great with the Clippers. You know what I'm saying. 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:29.840 I think when he got to New Orleans he was 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.200 having injuries and shit. So I was just root for 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.839 him to get back. And what y'all don't know. Before 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:36.920 that clip, he had came down on some groovesh you 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.880 know how he five trail three bows, so we can't 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.120 he was putting motherfuckers in the mixing. Now. You know, 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.280 we had a bunch of young guys, Zach Levine, a 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.600 younger Andrew Wiggers, a young carth in town, and he 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:49.880 was just he was dogging on. He was beastem So 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.520 I was like, hey, man, look, you know, compete, man, 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:54.080 don't don't let the moffuorer come down here and just 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.560 you know, compete. So when he came down, he did 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:59.200 some ship and then he spun it. Then he stepped 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.480 out like they don't know. Nigga, ain't what you do, 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:07.880 trans nigga, ain't he ain't nigga, Hey, nigga, get back 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.000 to what you nigga Like, you know what I'm saying, 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.560 and it wasn't even it was for him. But the 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:17.520 move is what made me react. I was like, what, yeah, 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:19.680 go back and look at the move though. The move 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:21.760 I'm talking about he was trying. There was a transh move, 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:25.280 so I was I was basically calling what I was saying, yeah, 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.480 shouting going man, you know you know what I'm saying, 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.760 real ship. I'm glad to see him still going you 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.200 know what I'm saying, helping teams and ship. Yeah, shot 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:34.800 to him. 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:38.280 And man, listen, so many moments I'm a fan because listen, 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:40.800 I look at the Olympics, and every time I think 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.040 about the Olympics, I think about that the best dump 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:46.120 we've ever seen. Card been in that moment? How was 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.440 it that? How was it to witness that moment live? 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:50.840 Listen? Man, shit happened so fast I couldn't even I 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.240 thought he got an end one. And when I when 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.800 I started, they call then an one, I was like, 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.240 oh sh he cleared that mother? Fuck? Did he just 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:03.080 clear the mother and he dunked it And when he 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.080 came down, if you see me, I really wanted to 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:08.320 go full like Nigga, but we had one two like damn, okay, 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:10.080 get back and leap. It was like kind of like that. 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.040 I had played with a guy with high school named 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:16.640 Ronnie Fields. People hit the air, and I seen him 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:18.840 do some most some of the most craziest shit. But 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.840 then Vince Carter is the class of ninety five and 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:23.720 were not been to camps together, so I'm not seeing 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.880 him do some of the crazy shit. But yeah, Bro, 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.559 him jumping over a whole seven six seven five guy 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:33.480 was like a whole nother Like I swear Tom stopped dog. 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:35.200 If y'all look at all of us, all of us 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:38.520 been behind me Gary, We all like like in a 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.079 like a frozen moment to where I thought that nigga 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.960 froze he felt us for like two seconds. But yeah, man, 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:45.840 shot to Vince Carter, Man, that's probably one of the 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:49.280 most electric electric moments I've ever been in. You know 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.400 what I'm saying. We couldn't really just get into it. 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:53.840 We had okay and then it was over. But yeah, 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:55.400 that was one of the more crowning moments in the 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.640 Olympic history. Bro. Speaking of Ronnie Fields, Bro, I don't 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.719 think he get enough credit notoriety. How was it like 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:03.760 playing with him? Man? How did y'all even link up 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:07.679 at Fergate. So I was coming from South Carolina and 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.760 my mother was moving me. I was in a very 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:16.560 very hectic and traumatic recruiting I don't even want to 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:20.959 debacle like colleges, was coming doing crazy shit. This is 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:25.080 my first interacting with money, big bags of bread like yeah, 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.400 it was just getting crazy. So y'all got in some 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.679 trouble in high school and my mom moved me. And 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.280 the one coach I had at Nike Man was with 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.960 Nelson and he had coach Ronnie in high school up 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.880 in Chicago. So him and now he stayed in contact, 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.280 just like hey, working on you, you know, because he 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.160 would always take me off to the sideware, spending like 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.920 a whole hour just throwing working and stuff. So I 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:48.360 fucked with his development. Man, And you know how to go, 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:50.920 Jeff Man, when you got a coach destiny, you know, 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.160 like pouring into it. Just just just dialed in with you. 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.040 You know what I'm saying, He with you. You know, 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.280 you go through some frustrating moments. He right there and 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:01.000 then I ain't evenly have no pops. I ain't ain't 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:02.600 you know what I'm saying, had no man in my life. 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.600 My mom was enough man for everybody in this motherfucker room. 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.560 So you know, now, I grew up a certain type 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.959 of temperature. I was. I was. I was used to 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:14.000 a certain type of environment. I one tripping over the jungle. 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:17.920 I was raised in it. So to have a male 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.240 in my life that was giving me some guidance and 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.120 someone I could pick the phone up even though he 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.800 was a thousand miles away, was confident for me. So 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:26.240 when I had the chance to be able to go 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.800 up and play with him, I didn't even think about 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:30.400 the city. I didn't think about nothing. I was thinking 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.120 about Damn. I got a coach that believe me. Man, 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.240 let's get it. So Man, I got up there and 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:37.000 we was rocking day one. And then that's when it 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.400 hit you, like, oh shit, you in Chicago. These are 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:40.880 the rules, and this what you gotta you know what 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.400 I'm saying. So it wasn't even a basketball problem I had. 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:45.559 It's more of a just adjusting to the big city. 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:47.000 Absolutely, man. 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:51.439 And another wonderful moment Olympic You going crazy in the ones, 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:56.400 running everybody else down, Hey Man, lit like iconic moment. 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:56.800 I was. 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:58.000 He was cleaning boys up. 0:12:58.120 --> 0:12:59.400 He was talking crazy too. 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:04.520 Man, it is what it is now, Jeff. Jeff noticed 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.640 man like during the times where we played. Man, I'm 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:08.640 not speaking on some of this younger stuff, but let's 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:10.280 go back like ten fifteen years ago. 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:10.520 Man. 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.880 Uh, it was a billion it was a bullion league. 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:13.880 Ye. 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.040 And you had to be a demon and play in it, 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:19.560 I'm sir, and not not just half confidence, but you 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:23.280 had to be a demon. And I mean t you 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.240 know what I'm saying, And I don't want to elaborate 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:26.720 on it, but you had to be like a different, 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.240 a different You had to have a different mindset. So 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:31.840 we're in the Olympics working out and one of the 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:33.679 things j Kid does to get back in shape is 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:37.000 play four court one on ones. Yeah, and we had 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.040 practice and it was a tech. It was the one 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:42.000 to practice where it was touchy, it was edgy and shit. 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.920 So gods wanted to compete. So about six or seven 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:46.800 us to say, hey, man, let's get some cardio in 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.800 niggas didn't want to run the customary seventeens. You know 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.000 how that shit goes, you know, because back then you 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.760 had time seventeens and then back then you had two 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:56.800 a days for the whole training cap So if you 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:58.720 had training cap thirty days. You had to you feel 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:00.840 what I'm saying. So yeah, it was just different on 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.160 how you got ready. So we jumped in it. And 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.600 now you know how I go, I want to one 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:09.680 on ones. Man, you know how it got a wicked yeah. Man, 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:11.560 you know, usually one of the ones go like you know, 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.480 you go, I go, I stop you, you stop me? 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:18.160 But man, when you get in a row and then 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.920 I don't know the cameraman in the cut, that's what 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:22.920 didn't nobody know. Bro, you know, the camera come out 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.880 of everybody, the element of embarrassment goes to like, you know, 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.400 a million right. So it was already testy, you know. 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:33.320 Me and Reef was already testy. Uh you know, a 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.720 couple of people's in there, testy Ray and Gary was 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.960 testy Timmy. It was just testy, you know. And yeah, 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:41.360 and I got the going so yeah, fuck it, I'm 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.200 king of the hell. Let's get it. So I was 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.760 talking my ship and then if somebody had wanted to 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.200 do something, we could play another. So we played three games, 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.080 but didn't nobody know the guy and the cut over 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.360 there getting it all. It's two more games that they 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.680 ain't show and I'm glad they didn't else. I won 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:58.920 the second one. I won first one, and then I 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.240 want the last one. The second one, two three, The 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.160 second one and the third was so physical that yeah, 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.320 we probably did We probably didn't want that one out. 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:08.760 But it was all a good shout to the you 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.800 know two thousand, you know team Man, we did that. Man. 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:14.120 I want to talk about how you and Palm man 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:19.240 Man on that k Swiss and Uta. Well, Paul, had 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.080 you come all the way out there of the county, Man, 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:24.080 I was ship, same ship out the truth. So I'm 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.760 from South Carolina, Jeff, you know what the South like. Man, 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.400 You're not playing in North Carolina. You know what I'm saying. 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.240 He ain't really a bunch of ain't nothing down there. 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.800 So it was it was very little recruitment. A lot 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.640 of a lot of football recruitment, but very little recruitment. Yeah, 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:42.840 and very little sponsorship. So you know, South Carolina, you 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:44.920 had to go to either Georgia to Atlanta, or you 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:46.400 had to go to Charlotte to go to one of 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.080 the bigger camps. So I ended up going to a 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:53.720 camp in Atlanta and a guy down there, Yeah, he 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:57.000 he was just like a sponsorship for any of anybody 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:00.160 else like Nike Adas. He he had k Swiss want 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.000 nobody really recruiting or none of that. But he was like, Yo, 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:03.240 you want to go to West Coast. You know what 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.440 I'm saying. You're playing the West Coast Like shit, this 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:08.160 that's what I need. He said. Cool. He wanted to 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.160 really want nothing, but it's about to experience. You know 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:11.880 what I'm saying. I never been to Cali that before 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.560 we pull up, Man, we get right to Inglewood, come 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:16.680 out to join n Inglewood. I don't know why I'm met. 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:20.080 Come up to some little raggedy gym. You know what 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.640 I'm saying. You can tell you it in the polished neighborhood, 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:24.440 you know what I'm saying. Come in here and I 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.040 see three guys playing. I see this little tall ass, 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:30.120 little fat kid. Dog. Nigga had like the little Stefan 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.240 Marlberry curly kid on. I told you he had a 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.440 whole s curl when I seen it, like Ice c 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.640 You goddamn shit was shaky. Ain't man, you had a 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:39.440 whole curl when I saw you, Nigga. You know what 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:41.880 I'm saying. But man, Jemmy was a little fat little, you 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.080 know what I'm saying. I was like, man, okay, and 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.440 then I saw him go up and boom that moll fire, 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.400 like damn, a little fat motherfucker got some house man. 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:51.880 Oh yeah, that's Paul Pierce. I was like, were and 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.960 he looked like a younger version of what you see now, 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.360 probably saying way more wild than shit, you know what 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:01.320 I'm saying. But uh yeah, people met at like sixteen 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.520 and before. I didn't know that in his in l 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:09.399 A Toby Bailey, Ricky Price, a bunch of these older 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.879 j R. Henderson. These are guys that were running LA 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.200 at the time, you know what I'm saying. And he 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.440 he looked up to them. So I don't know none 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:17.920 of this. And I don't know none of these guys, 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:19.040 you know what I'm saying. But then you got the 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.919 Collins Twins, you got Jolannie Mccaordy, you got Shane Cotton, 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.080 all these West coaches I ain't never heard of, you 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:25.680 know what I'm saying. So I was eager to play, 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:27.960 you know what I'm saying. See what see what you 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:29.679 know a lot of these guys have to offer, and 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:35.000 I didn't have that. I didn't have that and not 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.919 seen you play factors, so I didn't. I'm coming in 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.400 here like I don't know who Jelani is. Oh, Johlanna. 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.760 He block everybody shot, so I was like, oh, I mean, 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.120 how big is Jolana. It's like, well he's seven foot. 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:49.080 He bought your side and I was like, so I 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:51.520 was on, I don't know who this is. So I 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.800 go right in the beach mood like you from bund Lions. 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.080 You know what I'm saying, specially yo. But the La 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.719 niggas had me running through the casinos hitting ship and 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.080 they jumping out of cabs and just doing l a ship. 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.520 So we got in the game. Bro. We all connected 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.000 term all the all the little because he played with 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.040 a bunch of hood guys that are from Inglewood that 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.920 went to Inglewood High. The j Crow, the one you 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.240 see him on two Flown Switch, that was his point guard. 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.680 Shout out to Demani. He's a rapper. He used to 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.800 play show a couple of those guys, just you know guys, 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.960 and but they played hard, and man, we end up 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.600 winning that little ship. Man, we want that little vegashit. 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:28.800 We weren't supposed to win nothing. That's how he was 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:33.359 though a bunch of his friends. Same ship. When you 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.960 get your first, when you get your first, you look Vegas. 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.840 I went to ABCD camp. Oh okay, yeah, I went 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:40.840 to the ab CD camp. I had like one offer 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.520 going there, end up killing that and getting like seventy off. 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:45.040 Why wait, Forest, Bro. 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.679 I was a fan of Chris Paul. I grew up 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:50.680 watching Chris and I was like, damn, they let him 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:51.440 do whatever. 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:52.800 Up there for sure? 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.080 Yeah, all right, right, I don't need to follow it 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:56.560 the four steps and that's how it happened. 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:58.959 World. That's what's up. I Georgia time up there, Bro. 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:02.280 I'm from ACCNT, so you know, uh, you know, I 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:04.240 was a huge Tarhee fan and all that other ship. 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:06.440 But Bro used to used to get your money. 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:07.159 I appreciate that. 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:08.720 I was gonna ask you, what school was you gonna 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.640 go to if you didn't go straight to the league. 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:18.320 Uh, Michigan, Okay, Michigan I went to I went to Michigan. 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:22.439 Uh two years before so tenth grade. I had a 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:24.359 chance to go up and watch him play Michigan State, 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:26.879 and I got to meet Webb, and I got to 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:31.040 meet j Juwan, I got to meet Jimmy. Everybody jialing everybody, 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:33.680 and they were super cool and not at the time 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:35.480 to where you could take people around. They just took 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:37.960 me and we we kind of disappeared and where it was. 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:42.200 I took a liking to web Web's gang. But then 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.439 when I met Web where Web cuffed me like a 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:47.520 like a like a little brother man, and and and that, 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:49.600 and that stuck with me so much that when I 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:53.119 watched him play, I saw myself and then I just 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:56.320 start piecing off the style. Obviously I wanted to Web 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:58.719 size or none of that, but the way he played 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:00.439 through and that, and you know how you is when 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:03.080 you're seeing your favorite player, right, So yeah, I want 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.320 to follow in those footsteps. But you and Cee was 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:08.200 great on development, and one of the things I wanted 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:09.960 to really do was develop as a player. I didn't 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:11.879 want to, you know, I didn't want you to look 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:13.920 at a nineteen ninety five tape and then look ninety 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:15.840 seven and I'm looking the same. So you A and 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:18.920 c was known for developing one thing. I will say, 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:23.000 they developed big men in a certain way. And if 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:25.840 you saw how my style was, I didn't want to 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:28.520 be your traditional big well, you know, I didn't have 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:31.200 the body mask to go down in and Kevin m 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:32.919 kel will be showing me this move where you had 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.040 to have big shoulders to get it up. You know 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:36.960 exactly what I'm talking about, bro. You know you're trying 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:39.439 to figure that out so early on. I struggled with that, 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:41.840 but I figured it out. But I wanted to go 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:44.000 to UNC for the development. I had a cousin. I 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:46.639 got a real cousin in life, Shaman Williams, who actually 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:50.000 start and play. Yeah. Yeah, Shaman's my older cousin. My 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.840 real father in life is his uncle. His mother is 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:56.119 my real aunt. Oh okay, badly know my Popstow. So 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:58.240 you know that whole shit was kind of you know 0:20:58.280 --> 0:20:59.680 what I mean. But when we saw each other, it's 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.359 always love. If I see him today, it's always loved, 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:06.240 same old, same old. But yeah, those two those those 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:11.240 two two schools really made an impact on them. You'd 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:14.159 have been ra Michigan now. I remember. I remember I 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:15.960 wanted to go to Georgia Tech with Steph Man and 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:18.080 Bobby Krimins told me they had a kid by the 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:20.760 name of Eddie Elisma and they didn't need no more 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:24.760 big about listen. For about ten years I was looking 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.679 for Eddie Elisha. I just wanted him to be on 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:31.160 somebody's team. I just wanted to show Bobby, Bobby Krimins, 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:33.080 what what what's the difference? You know what I'm saying. 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.119 Yeah, but where you get that mindset from? Because I 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:38.440 follow your story, Brahma, huge fan. I remember you doing 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:40.639 your draft workouts and you're talking about pat Riley. 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:46.320 Yeah, man, yeah, the pat Riley Great. Yeah. My mama, 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:49.040 my mom. Man, my mom's a kind of a shot 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:52.159 to my mom Sheryl, you know, but yeah, my mom's 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:54.960 a she's a hard worker. Man. My mom used to 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.199 work the graveyard ships. You know, the graveyard ships are 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.800 on twelve to twelve six, you know what I'm saying. So, 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:04.119 so yeah, my mom worked at so you know, I 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:07.680 grew up very responsible, being able to cook early, being 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:09.919 able to clean the house early. I grew up in 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:12.920 the South, so I was outside. I'm from slap box. 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:15.720 I'm from all the guys fighting. I'm from I'm from 0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:18.760 all that wrestling for the belt, getting beat for the belt, 0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:21.160 going home, cutting out carpet, making a new belt, coming 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:23.760 outside with the you know, I'm from that real nigga 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:27.200 on the bike. I'm in neighborhoods my neighborhood fighting your neighborhood. 0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:29.800 I'm from all that, you know what I'm saying. So 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:34.359 outside outside and I'm from the black Top. I'm I'm 0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:36.240 I'm out here. I'm gonna go to every park and 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:38.879 see who out here and try to kill it. And 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:40.760 you start to get a rep you know what I'm saying, 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:43.080 that's big fella. You know that's uh yeah, they them, 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:45.680 Mallen them, the Marten Boys. You know what I'm saying, 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:50.240 Shit like this, But yeah, man, my mom gave me 0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:55.120 this kind of a yeah, no, no, no nonsense kind 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:59.360 of attitude that the goett ship and why not you? 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.240 My mom used to play all those little riddles with me. 0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:04.720 She said, Kevin, you know, if you ever come into 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:07.320 your room and look for the leader, said, why what 0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:09.000 you talking about? Well, if you can't find a leader 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:10.840 in the room, guess who's the leader? She say, She 0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:13.200 lived this a little shit like that, and then dog, 0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:15.080 I started taking shit personal. You know what I'm saying, 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:17.280 light skinned niggas and dollars staying. You know what I'm saying. 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:22.719 So I'm super competitive. So a lot of times though, 0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:25.320 when when I would take things personal, I would put 0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:27.480 it in the competitive form because I didn't want to 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:30.639 be rowdy. Uh you know, we got ass whoop in 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:33.680 my house, so I'm from I got manners, open doors 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:35.840 for women. I watched dishes, I know how to clean 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:38.239 the whole house up, you know what I'm saying. So 0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:41.320 putting all those into play couldn't get in trouble in 0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:43.280 school or you got killed, you know what I'm saying. 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:46.200 So I had to learn and control those emotions and 0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:49.560 then challenge towards something. So when basketball started coming into 0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:51.240 my life, I started really putting a lot of time 0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:56.640 in it, and then I found this untapped energy, if 0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.399 you will. Then when it came to competitiveness, when I 0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:05.720 heard I heard sea Biscuit had a complex that the 0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:10.080 writer he would kind of easing back to let the 0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:11.919 other horse go back, and when the horse got in 0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:14.840 front of him the horse, Sea Biscuit would go ape 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:18.000 shit and just smoke the hor When I heard that analogy, 0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:22.359 I connected with that, like to play somebody better than 0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:25.080 you actually gets you to play better, and it makes 0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:29.560 you a more tentative, more locked you ever hear about 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:31.760 when you take a sense, the other sense gets heightened. 0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:33.760 I swear when I would play people that were bigger 0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:35.800 than me, or better than me, or I consider better 0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:40.960 than me. It activated that. And then I got into 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:44.880 the league and the league was a bully league, and yeah, man, 0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:47.879 coming from Chicago, everybody pulling up on you wanting the 0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:50.480 hoop and the crate in the alley and this gym 0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.520 and on this whatever. So you instill that in it 0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:55.399 put me in the league, and then say that I 0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:57.639 can't do something. So I was like, man, I'm going 0:24:57.720 --> 0:24:59.520 to prove all y'all wrong, y'all for the you know 0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:01.879 what I'm saying. I told everybody the draft when she 0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:05.240 and Stack was cracking jokes on me, man in front 0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:07.239 of about like fifty niggas, They're like, nigga, should take 0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:09.880 your ass to college. Man, I say, nigga, I'm finna 0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:15.399 be better than all y'all niggas. Niggas live. I'm the 0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:18.480 only one that left me and Scotty Thurman. Scotty Thurton, 0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:20.919 I don't know if you notice, kid from Arkansas used 0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:23.040 to shoot the long ball. He was like, hey, they 0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:24.879 fucking with your cat there. Now, young fall he was 0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:28.280 country man. They now young felt. But yeah, I've always 0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:31.360 been super competitive and my mindset. Man, it's gotta be 0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:33.600 always saying one of the ones is me or you. 0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:36.480 It's got to be you can't be me, you know 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:37.040 what I'm saying. 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:39.560 Yeah, I heard you did that to Scottie Pipping too. 0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:42.960 Yeah, we got two. I was young though, I was 0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:46.960 junking wild. Oh. When I got Chicago, I moved in 0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:51.960 a certain certain area off the west side called k Town. Yeah. 0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.720 K Town got all these different streets in these different 0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:58.520 areas and uh yeah, they wrapped different places. You know 0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:01.800 what I'm saying. Gd's over here, Vice Stoy's over here, Uh, 0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:03.840 Kobra's over here, and you got to know how to 0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:06.520 Latin King's over here. You gotta know how to go 0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:09.320 through that, right. And then once I figured that out, Bro, 0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:12.320 you you know you're moving, and you know a lot 0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:16.199 of the guys you move with you moved. How you moving? Yeah? Yeah, man, 0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:18.560 Scotti Pippy got some ship and I don't know what 0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:24.960 he thought, yeah, but yeah, I quick, quickly, you know, 0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:28.880 got him to understand where he was. But that wasn't 0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.600 a good moment for me because I felt like, you know, 0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:33.400 when you come into an NBA said, and you don't 0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:36.120 want to be rowdy. Grover, let us come in there, 0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.359 and who as soon as we got into that, Grover 0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:40.600 tried to kick us out. Guys, you want to kicked 0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.520 out into a whole nother thing. I knew the guys 0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:45.480 Carl Harris is and if Carl Harris went in there, 0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:47.520 who's the street guy from the South Side. If Carl 0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:49.240 Harris won in there would have been all bad. But 0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:51.640 I'm glad he was in there. And then it's even 0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:54.840 more crazy to that Jeff Isaiah Thomas in the corner 0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.280 watching all this, And that's that's where I got the 0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.760 jewels from. I seen Zeke z He pulled me to 0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:02.280 the U because I ain't no. Zeke's from the West Side, 0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:04.359 like he was. You know what I'm saying, He's super 0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:07.520 You know what I'm saying, He's man, Zeke super tact 0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:10.360 plugged into the West Side. So the shit there talk 0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:12.199 to him. I talked to him about three hours, and 0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:14.240 after that three hours, I knew exactly what I was doing. 0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:17.439 Straight up. You got a story like that with ja 0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:19.520 A right too, right when y'all play the bulls and 0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:22.800 he was talking to Jordan and Joe Jay all had 0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:25.879 to tell you that Hey, Okay, chill out, bro, you 0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:28.440 fit the turny up man, Jeff. You know this, man, 0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:30.679 when you play a guy dog or you play somebody 0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:34.960 that you you look up to and you're not watching 0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:37.879 enough film to know that this guy is better than you, 0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:39.920 but you still have confidence in yourself. It was kind 0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.480 of like that Mike them, what this bullying niggas man 0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:46.240 pressing up ninety four feet zig zaggy? They getting it, 0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:49.080 then they hand checking it. Refs ain't calling it so 0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:52.200 on a young guy like t here grad Te Hill, 0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:54.960 Jeff really got to know how to handle it because 0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.639 you're really dealing with forcing right right right. If the 0:27:57.680 --> 0:27:59.840 ref ain't calling it, Bro, you gotta you gotta deal 0:27:59.880 --> 0:28:05.160 with yourself. I mean that's crazy, that's crazy, that's crazy. 0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.120 You say that because that's what the bulls was doing. Nothing. 0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.600 So we we learned that and then start to implement 0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:11.800 on the young guys. No ship, real ship, But yeah, 0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:14.119 that was that was the same way. But just like 0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:17.560 how you you learn that makes you better that that 0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:19.720 that that kind of headache that you got to deal 0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:21.560 with you like holy ship. The first time I'm happy 0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:23.800 you in you and you in big eyes right second 0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:27.159 time you go ship third time. Now you ain't tripping, 0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.320 you know what I'm saying. So that's for sure, You're 0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:32.200 just But yeah, me and Jyard was in there and 0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.520 and and Mike then was just on some bully ship 0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.240 and I was having a decent ass game. I'm just 0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:39.480 seeing my friend. He had just gotten too a car accident. 0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:41.640 I didn't really get much sleep. We was on the 0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:43.840 back to back. When I landed, I went straight to 0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:47.880 the hospital. I sat there all night winning and uh man, 0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:49.360 it was just hard to see Feels in there with 0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:51.960 the dame with the halo on his neck. Yeah, and 0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.120 I was like, damn. And then I was really effective 0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:57.680 and I came back to the hotel. I had to 0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:00.760 go right to the to the the ring and ship, 0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.080 you know, first bus and all that shit. So I 0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:05.160 was over there super early, so I was super inspired, 0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:07.120 but I was running off fumes. I didn't have no 0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.720 sleep that night. Had the whole west side on the 0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:13.280 whole left side of that motherfucker. So I felt, yeah, 0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:14.840 I was in I had a great night, but yeah, 0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:19.560 just just just man. As soon as I started feeling good, man, 0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:23.080 I fucked that up. I fucked that up. It's a 0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:24.640 lot of ship. I didn't fuck up. I fucked that 0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:26.520 up because we had a chance to win that game, 0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:28.800 and I woke the beasts up. Dog and I ain't 0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:30.840 think that ship was real. So you see it like, 0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:37.360 oh shit, really really really really scared shit and he 0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:41.560 went look no bullshit, came down simple to all three 0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:46.040 five and once shot two free through like it was 0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:49.000 looked up. The nigga had like forty and life like 0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:51.680 twelve minutes. I was like, damn we sitting on the bench, 0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:56.360 was like, dare we nineteen? Then I looked at you 0:29:56.400 --> 0:30:00.840 know how you look at everybody, and everybody I told 0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:04.280 that nigga to shut up, Joe. That's how Jay y'all, 0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:06.520 y'all was like my dog to you know, it's okay, 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:08.440 we're gonna get through it. At the end the bench, 0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:11.200 he was taking shoes off. I was like, my fuck man, 0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:18.480 it's all shut your heads, real mess. I see. I 0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:20.680 never shaid ship to join after that dog, real ship. 0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:22.880 I ain't say nothing. I remember that story, black cat, 0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.120 you're good, You're good, Okay, cool ball here and keep 0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:26.400 it moving straight up. 0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:29.560 Hey, you know it's funny. 0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:29.760 Uh. 0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:33.080 Jeff always spoke very very very highly of that Celtics 0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.120 backcourt defense and you just talking about every Bradley reaching 0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:37.440 about how you know what I'm saying, he had to 0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.280 go down to the g le d to wake up. 0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:41.800 I love the fact that we're giving people honor like 0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:43.840 that because I feel like guys like Drew Holiday now 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:45.800 that they getting their praise that they deserve. You talk 0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:47.440 about the real defense, like you said, would be a 0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:49.320 nightmare matchup for you were dough and then you talk 0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:51.000 about a b It was just interesting to hear you 0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:52.520 say that his hot praise for him? 0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:53.480 Nah man them too. 0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.840 They had ticket that got up on screens and then. 0:30:57.720 --> 0:30:59.920 They had perk. He didn't get all the way up. 0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:00.920 He was physical. 0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.440 You had them two dudes, bro, they are ninety four 0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:07.840 feet you and then Aby Bradley took everything personal. I 0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.760 remember one game we played him. It was my second year. 0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:13.440 Rondo was out and he started at point guard. I 0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:16.160 think it's his first start, and I kind of embarrassed 0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.000 him a little bit. I went by dunk dunk and 0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.240 stole the ball from a bunch of times. And the 0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:22.080 next time he played me, he was like, yeah, what's up? 0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:23.640 And I was like what. 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.560 I was like, he's sad, you know all kill him, bro, 0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:29.440 he was guarding me for turning. 0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:35.240 I pass the Kurt messing with him real now, for real, 0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:36.040 he was serious. 0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:40.000 Aby Bradley's feet it was probably similar to like ushers 0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.640 and Michael Jackson's, like he had the quickest feet. He 0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:46.040 was normally when you get hit, if you and Jeff 0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:48.240 t right now was in the pick and roll, and 0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:50.800 Broke came up and said, a pick on you. If 0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:53.800 he hit any part of your of your leg, You're 0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:56.960 you're gonna turn. You're just gonna turn out. That's just 0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:00.200 what it is. Aby Bradley was the only guy that 0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.760 I knew that got his shoulder right over yours, got 0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:04.840 his feet over there, he would and he would like 0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:09.200 them chili sauce. Bro, he got highlights on your sue 0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:13.600 doing that. Listen, listen, hell it did he It wasn't 0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:16.360 he poking. And you know when the guard bringing it up, 0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:20.200 you know, motherfucker bringing up he ain't really thinking about 0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.360 the poking all that, because you're calling the plate trying 0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:25.360 to see where that motherfucker's in your in your cavity. 0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:28.760 You gotta you got to either chicken wing or man. Imagine. 0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:30.960 So when you when I heard you say that. When 0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:33.200 I saw that clip, I was like, yeah, that's right 0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.680 on to what they was on. They was on harassment 0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:38.720 and really trying to break the point guard down, like man, 0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:40.600 run him in the ground. So they got to bring 0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:42.680 the backup and then we're gonna run him in the ground. 0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:45.040 And that was our whole Our whole plan was to 0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.760 outwork you as a team. That was a physician position. 0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.840 I was tripling above playing one on him and it's 0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:53.120 a time out, you know, TV Gord and getting so. 0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:56.240 Loud y'all stop. He's still right there in your face. 0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.720 I'm still trying to beaty looking you know here. 0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:02.520 The whistle them to just them too, like ya ya go. 0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:04.760 They playing one. 0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:10.320 Over here, ship like I can't keep sucking saying nothing 0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:11.600 else to him now. 0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:12.880 He was serious, Who you. 0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:14.240 Lik in the league against guards? Right now? 0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:15.040 Man? 0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:17.040 You got a favorite? You got favorite guards? You like? 0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:20.920 Favorite point guard probably is uh Jaylen Bronson right now, 0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:23.280 big body code. 0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:26.760 Don't come up when he's a little kid, bro his development. 0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:27.920 Yeah, and to see him get to who he was 0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:30.000 like being at Villanova, I never thought he would be 0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:30.560 this player. 0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:33.040 And then to see where he is now, knowing his dad, 0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:33.920 it's like. 0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:36.560 Damn when I saw it, when I saw a couple 0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:40.720 of times in Dallas, he would take over games and 0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:42.480 then kind of come off it, you know, because you 0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:46.320 couldn't he wouldn't go fourth throttle. But you saw the glimpses. Yeah, 0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:48.240 because for a long time they was trying to get 0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:50.400 rid of the mid range, women, the mid range, and 0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:54.080 just diagnostics at least in data. That's not a good one. 0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:56.240 Shoot at the end of day. Make it that, you know. 0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:58.440 And then I think Houston fucked that whole thing up 0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:02.600 when they came Dan Moorey came in to really run. Yeah. Yeah, 0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:05.320 so I say that. I say that to set up that. 0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:08.600 I felt like, man, he you start to see it 0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:11.040 with the mid ranger and then he just accepted that, Yeah, 0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:12.799 I'm just gonna go mid range. I don't want to 0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:15.160 if I got to stand still three cool And then 0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:18.800 to put all that together, bro, you know, the most 0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:23.000 I wanna say disrespected, but it's probably the most underrated 0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:26.879 thing in our league. Development Nah for sure. Man, don't 0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.480 nobody developing young boys no more? Man? And if so, 0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:33.680 you got one trainer training a tall guy, training a center, 0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:36.799 a forward and a guard the same fucking way, Bro. 0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:40.239 That's because they eliminated all the old hiss Bro. 0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:43.000 The moves looked the same. Bro. Like, right now, I 0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.719 already know a young boy gonna get me an in 0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:47.360 and out and he's gonna cross it. If he crossed, 0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:49.359 he probably gonna step back left because you're already over. 0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:51.400 If he ain't doing that, he's doing the heads and 0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.319 all this. It's like I'm watching the mood patterns be 0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:56.880 so similar that I don't see nothing coming out of that. 0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.520 I don't see nothing. So then I jumped in and 0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.120 I was like, Oh, I'm gonna go see who Check 0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.000 invited me to come see and work out. One day. 0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:06.040 I went to go see check workout. I see his 0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:08.719 whole workout where he was working out on. Tatum was 0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:12.719 working on Kawhi was working on for brunts and work 0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:15.799 and I was just like, nah, man, you gotta you 0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:19.000 gotta customize on package. You got a customize on bag. 0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:21.520 You know what I'm saying. It's too it's man, the 0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:23.600 bag looks similar throughout all of it, you know what 0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:24.080 I'm saying. 0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:25.080 And that's real. 0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:26.920 Like you said, you can look at people with that game, 0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:28.359 It's like, oh, I know who he trying to win 0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:28.960 the off season. 0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:31.239 I hate to say that, even though I don't know 0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:34.160 the trainer. Yeah, I'll see it look similar, you know 0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:36.520 what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. And then that 0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:38.640 would bring you back to oh yeah, yeah, yeah they 0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:41.280 do got the same one. Oh yeah they do. Uh 0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:42.439 that type of thing. 0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:44.680 So you talk about the mid range, you talk about 0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:47.040 the guards in the league, you talk about SGA going 0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.439 crazy with the vision, and then you gotta talk about 0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:51.640 looks Man, the house you built, the young guy in 0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:52.839 there reviving it. 0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:55.040 Ae Man, nasty? 0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:56.719 How was that man for you to be the best 0:35:56.719 --> 0:35:58.800 player at Tiple with history, to see the researchers with 0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.320 young AE with a similar mindset. 0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:02.719 With it like a work like? How was that to 0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:03.560 like enjoy? 0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:06.520 I love ants gold Man, like his I like his 0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:10.640 yesterdyear demeanor. Man, you know, I thought, I don't mind 0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:13.719 order all the being cool because you know, like you said, 0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:15.960 you know, you know, Gordon, you got guys from Thattown 0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:18.840 that you fuck. We're right, y'all see each other's cool, right, Bro, 0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:20.640 It ain't cool to the point where going gonna let 0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:23.160 you scoring him now, or you're gonna let That's what 0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:25.600 I'm saying the ship started to look buddy buddy at 0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:28.160 one point. That's that's why it just didn't look like 0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:30.360 it was competitive well what I was used to seeing. So, 0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:32.600 you know what, I had to get off that this 0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:34.359 is a new generation and this is what the game 0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:37.280 looks like now. So I start to go in that direction. 0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:44.479 But man, I gotta I gotta say, bro, like, yeah, 0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:49.640 I enjoy competitiveness. I ain't enjoying guys or you know yeah, 0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:51.880 And I think that's a big part of it. Gaming 0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.680 ship is another big part of it. You know, I 0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:57.200 have never pulled up to a park and never seen 0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:00.759 anybody you pull up to the parking those too. You 0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:05.880 know what I'm saying straight push your ass and asking 0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.960 what I'll bust your ass for the first stretch I 0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.239 was trying. I'm the first stretch for I don't give 0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:13.720 a fuck what you did that? Fred I got you 0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:19.120 you coming in the post, my nigga, slow down. I 0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:23.000 can't even like right and grabow having nothing. I'm having 0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:25.880 them Isaac Lander didn't have no joke. I'm having a 0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:30.239 grandma like who bust? Who asks nigga? What we've gotta? Women? 0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:35.719 Drais got a women drais, Hey, they got the women here, dog, 0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:37.239 we go right to you know what I'm saying, right 0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:41.000 show down dog first like nothing, I don't I don't 0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.400 know you, ain't I ain't know you. 0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:47.040 Nigga, don't get to know you. Right, funk out of here. 0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:52.440 That's who asks nigga right turns my whole you asked 0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:56.440 you got all the shows? Bro, I bust your knees 0:37:56.560 --> 0:38:01.160 right here there. That is the specialized, the whole specials 0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:06.000 Like here you still, I'm gonna tell you what I do. 0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:09.880 I don't hoop, but I work out money through Friday. 0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.040 Just for if I got a little more fucker mouthing off, 0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:14.440 I could go up here. I can you know what 0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:16.759 I'm saying. I keep the dusk off just enough, but 0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:19.160 I'll be honest. I want to ashoot us to see 0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:23.240 if you're having the same issue. Bro. I don't really 0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:26.120 go and hoop and turn it up turn it up, 0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:29.000 because I already know that's gonna send me right. You 0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:31.520 don't have no place to put the hope many No, 0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:33.600 that's how I am. Like, how do you how do 0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:35.759 you turn off? To have you turned it off? Yeah? 0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:38.040 I turned it off on a gym back in Indy 0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:39.640 and we got a men's league. 0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:41.920 But I never play serious. 0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:43.840 Like you got playing fucking around. 0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.520 I just be trying to get stay in shape. And 0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:48.279 then like I played in the Big Three the other 0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:51.440 day and that moment happened that dude scored him. I 0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:53.279 was just chilling. He scored on me a couple of times. 0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:55.680 He's having a good day, and all of a sudden 0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:59.239 it flipped. I throwing the ball at him, and I 0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:02.279 was like, saving me. I'm a podcast. Now what am 0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:02.600 I doing? 0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.680 I gotta old nigga, you're a demon. Remember how you 0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:09.560 got the podcast, I'm saying, And embrace that bro, real ship, 0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:12.520 real ship. They be trying him at the gym. Hey listen, 0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:15.400 that's why you're going there. You're supposed to bust that 0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:17.840 much whoever the fuck that is. You bust his ass 0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:22.320 and kill his confidence right there. See, when we play, 0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:25.040 I won't ever have this problem out The small fucker 0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:27.719 want nobody. And when I see him, he gonna come with, 0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:31.800 oh man, I take it or it's gonna be regardless. Okay, cool, 0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:34.640 But it's different after you play a nigga and then 0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:36.399 you go in the mirror look at yourself, like damn 0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:38.600 I couldn't get a bucket on that motherfucker. And you're 0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:40.880 gonna look at them shoes like, man, these shoes are 0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:42.920 gonna start. And that's what I That's what I was 0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.799 going for. I'm here to destroy your inner confidence. But 0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:49.239 you ever say no ship like that? You real rod up? 0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:51.200 See how you looking at now? You down what you said? 0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:55.200 You got doubting? I'm ready, don't look ready, I'm ready 0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:59.080 on your voice is ready? What that means, I'm gonna 0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:00.920 kill you with them pulling? What that means? You got 0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:04.160 a referee? Shoot, get the quart ups, set the quarter up? 0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:08.000 What we doing, tennessee sept the court up? Hennessy all, 0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:11.399 we got right do a shot before we got them 0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:14.759 played too, nigga. Oh, that's that's I said, before we play. 0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:17.760 I'm ready right now. I'm ready right now too, nigga, 0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:18.880 he said, Now. 0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:22.120 Before we get out of here. 0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:22.279 Man. 0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:23.839 I would to talk about one of the best foint 0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:26.120 guards that does not get enough credit. And I think 0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:28.080 in this era he would have got as much love 0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:30.960 as he should deserve. Steph Mall Barry Man. I feel 0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.239 like he was in this era, dog, we would give 0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:35.080 him way more praise, like he's one of the ones 0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:37.160 from me always has been. But I fight in this 0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:39.120 league now, the way they let the guards go crazy 0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:41.080 they do. Man, he would go so crazy right now, 0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:42.560 y'all had one of the best one to tattles we 0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:43.080 ever seen. 0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:43.319 Man. 0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:45.600 Yeah, playing with Steph was dope. Man. Steph was a 0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:48.520 real friend too, yeah real Yeah. Yeah. I was friend 0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:51.759 with his brothers, you know. Shout to Dawn, Eric, Zach, 0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:57.879 all those guys, uh, Sebastian Fox, five thirty, all those guys. Yeah. 0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:01.399 I spen Corney Island earlier at seventeen team. Yeah. Uh 0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:03.640 so when we got together in Minnesota, it felt like 0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:05.880 this is what we wanted to do, and uh it 0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:07.880 made the game easy. You know, you're not playing with 0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:09.520 the guy that you fuck with, you know what I'm saying. 0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:12.440 You know your speed? And then Steph won them. He 0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:14.480 was an IQ guy. You know, I had. I had 0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.040 really good hands and he used to always be like, care, 0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:19.960 you better have your hands ready. You know what I'm saying, 0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:22.680 Just knowing that he was on orthodox with his passes 0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:27.160 and his timing. But bro Bro trained differently, you know 0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:29.760 what I'm saying. He saw the world and the game differently, 0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:33.479 and when he played. I thought he did a great 0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:37.439 job of show showcasing that. You know, Steph. Steph had 0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:40.760 pieces from all the guards that we loved, the Rod Stricklands, 0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:43.600 the Kenny Anderson's, the Pearl Washington's right, he had all 0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:45.759 those pieces when you look at all guard played right, 0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:49.560 But then think about team intelligence. Yeah, a lot people 0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:52.520 don't tap in intelligence. A lot of people don't understand timing, 0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:55.719 what plays to call, what his whole variety of who 0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:58.719 here playing with and what what's the spread she for them? Like, 0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:01.560 you know, you could probably tap into this a little bit. 0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:03.960 But when guards, when you go through the guard play 0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:07.080 and you analyze what it takes to be a polished 0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:09.560 guard and not just polished on on the on the 0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:11.360 black top, but I'm talking about polished guard in the 0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:14.040 league and lead the team. Steph was one of those 0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:17.120 you know what I'm saying. He looked up to Ai him. 0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:19.520 Ai had a bunch of you know, back and forth. 0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:21.680 I think Steve Fanzy jumped in there later on. So 0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:24.759 I should love to watch that. But Steph grew to 0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:27.520 on his own. I think once we got to Minnesota. 0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:30.440 You know, I think that you know, within himself, if 0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:33.120 you know anything about Steph has a really big personality, 0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:36.080 super New York, super CI. You know, he Coney Island, 0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:40.319 Brooklyn until he died. So when he came up and 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:42.399 was on something like, yeah, I want to I'm finna 0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:44.120 go back there. I'm finna go back home. I'm finna, 0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:45.879 I'm finna go back home and try to do it ill. 0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:50.760 I was mad because I was being selfish and wanting 0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:53.160 us to go and rock and see what we can be. 0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:55.400 But then when I thought about it, I was like, 0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:57.719 I can't even be mad because you only get one 0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:00.480 chance at this ship and for you to be able 0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:02.560 to go to a franchise and you beat ahead of 0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:04.600 it and you run it and get the have say 0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:07.799 and put the pieces in there that you won't Ah, bro, 0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:09.759 I can't even be mad at you. Then he was 0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:12.359 talking like he had some vision and where he wanted 0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:14.040 to go, and we ended up sending him to Jersey, 0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.920 which was you know, not New York, but it was Jersey, 0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:19.240 and for him to go back there, he looked happier. 0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:21.520 He was around his family and he was in his setting. 0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:23.720 And then I kind of came off of like, Okay, 0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.320 he doing him, and then I didn't take it so personal, 0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:28.200 you know what I'm saying. It was just when he 0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:31.200 was on something like, oh I want to be in Minnesota, like, nah, nigga, 0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:33.200 you want to go do your own ship, which I 0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:36.560 can respect, and yeah, shout the stuff. Man. It was 0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:39.200 a good time when it was good. Hate then when 0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:40.880 you get to tap into that potential to see what 0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:43.319 we could have been. But yeah, shout the stuff for 0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:46.200 that man. Underrated twenty eight for sure. Yeah, man, just 0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:47.080 spoken enough. 0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:47.880 Bro. 0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.120 Yeah you know what too, man? You know the league, man, 0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:54.760 what's your story and how you come through and things 0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:59.480 that follow you. Yeah, man, they put all that on 0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:01.280 you. You know what I'm saying, if you got in trouble 0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:05.000 abn C or you you know, I say he did 0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.040 anything to fuck the game off or whatever, But I 0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:11.000 know his situations in the Knicks and that whole tobacco 0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.080 in high that whole played out, and then him having 0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:14.799 to go to China and ship like Steph should have 0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:16.799 never had to go to China, you know what I'm saying. 0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:20.440 Stefan Marlborough had to go to China's crazy, but showing 0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:23.279 to his true brilliance, Man, he goes over there, he 0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:26.439 takes over the fucking league. He becomes what we all 0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:28.840 know him to be, the great spirit that he is, 0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:30.920 you know what I'm saying. And he went over there 0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:34.319 and made the China League popular to where players go 0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:36.440 over there and play. Now, I don't know if they're 0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:38.600 gonna go play after seeing the young boys sleeping in 0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:39.800 the fucking lobby. 0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:42.440 That was that crazy. 0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:45.400 Listen, we talk about the NBA and these different leagues. 0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:50.120 The league is I say this, it's professional. You never 0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:53.200 have a guy in none of those aspects. And then too, 0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:56.799 I'm thinking, one, where's your agent and where's your teammates? 0:44:57.600 --> 0:44:59.160 That's the first thing I thought. If you sleeping in 0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:01.759 the lobby, where the where's your other teammate? You know 0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:04.160 what I'm saying? And who's not speaking of you? Whole 0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:08.800 another conversation, I say, But yeah, shout shout to shout 0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:10.520 to Steph doing that. Man, No, no, no, I say, the 0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:12.120 young fella doing that. But I was just going back 0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:15.000 to Steph and being able to making China popular and 0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:18.280 all that ship. But yeah, Steph was one of them. 0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:20.680 Question Marshall, what what could have been? You know what 0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:21.120 I'm saying. 0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:23.319 Before we get out of here, man, last fan question 0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:25.200 for me man, one of my favorite pictures. One of 0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:27.920 the favorite passes oops of all time at an All 0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:30.800 Star joint. You A cole Man, one of my favorite 0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:32.319 things I've seen on the basketball court. 0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:32.600 Man. 0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:40.520 Yeah, shout to Bean. Yeah. When I when we when 0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:43.960 we was, when we was coming up, when I first 0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:48.800 met that crazy motherfucker being was super intense, super intense 0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.440 as a young kid. And then when we got to 0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:54.000 the All Star Game. It was in New York and 0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:57.239 they caught the East Oup first and We're sitting in 0:45:57.280 --> 0:46:02.560 the back and I'm boo, I am so, I am own, 0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:06.680 I'm ready to get out here. Man, fuck them, you know, 0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:09.160 like it was just I was ready, and it was 0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:14.440 the first time I saw him like nervous, and nobody 0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:16.120 else was paying attention to shit. You know, we the 0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:19.000 youngest here. It's it's a it's a it's a it's 0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:21.640 actually a clip. They don't play the whole clip, but 0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:23.799 they play a piece of like, yeah, motherfucker, were at 0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:26.319 the Old Star Game. Nigga were at the Old Star Game. 0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:28.560 Nigga not dappy, you see. And I'm in the back 0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:30.680 like this a nigga, you ready, Nigga, We ain here. 0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:34.560 We ain't here now now death and he like, yeah, yeah, 0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:38.280 we at the hoosh, like, nigga, get your gas up. Hey, nigga, 0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:40.600 we going at this nigga because they was already puffing 0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:42.640 him and Mike nigga fuck him. We get out here. 0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:45.080 I'm looking for you. Be ready, he said, all right, cool, 0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:47.239 and I'll be Damn. I'm talking about the second player 0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:49.000 in the game, third play Boo boom. I came out 0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:50.440 to it on the left side and I looked up. 0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:52.400 I just put it right in the middle of the 0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:54.440 realm and where he was coming for that time. That 0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:58.600 perfectly well, this nigga jumps so motherfucking high. And when 0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:01.360 I talk about that, Vince Carter moment bought cob asses. 0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:05.120 I watched it from my perspective. I threw it, so 0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:11.839 I watched him just we dunked that motherfuckers already came out. 0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:14.960 I was like, yeah, I was. I was on some 0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:18.440 nigga ship. He was on some like let's be professional, man, 0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:21.560 fuck that man, fuck, let's let's get it. So that 0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:27.080 energy coming out playing. Yeah, that was a magical game 0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:29.239 because MJ was looking for it too, and he wanted 0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:32.839 all smoke, throwing his hand licking his fingers and ship. 0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:35.560 It was on him, him, him, the demon came out 0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:38.680 of He was in massive square, you know he you know, 0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:41.840 he really activate when in there right oh man, it 0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:45.600 was no bigger stage than center stage at MSG and 0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:50.080 watching that going back and forth, MJ solidified himself, you 0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:53.120 know what I'm saying. But Cole establishing himself right there, 0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:55.320 you know as kamement. 0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:57.879 Man, what better way in his ticket? 0:47:58.719 --> 0:47:59.720 Go ahead, go ahead? 0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:02.960 Yeah, that's an MVP right there. Yeah, so you want 0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:06.560 the MVP top seventy five. You did them the everything 0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:09.960 you could do in basketball, Bro, to trans like, you know, 0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:13.040 transition to doing podcasts and being more open, like because 0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:16.040 me knowing you when you play, you was the best teammate. 0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:18.120 My brother told me you the ultimate teammate. Everybody in 0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:20.720 Minnesota told me you was the ultimate teammate, the best 0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:24.360 bet you can have. But you never talked about players 0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:26.520 or nobody like that. To see you show love to 0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:30.400 young guys now, it's different, bro, Like most of the 0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:31.920 old heads that we used to say, Like with old 0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:33.520 heads when I used to watch, they would talk crazy 0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:34.560 about the young guys are. 0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:35.239 They getting this money? 0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:35.960 They don't play? 0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:38.240 And then you come in you like, yeah, I love. 0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:42.839 A yeah to put a lot of light on him. Yeah, 0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:51.000 well think about this, guys, real shit when you play Man. Man, 0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:55.000 At least for me, I couldn't playing that gray area. Yeah, 0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:56.600 you know what I'm saying, Even though I mean Chouncey 0:48:56.640 --> 0:48:59.520 Billups Toronto, lou Shee Wallace, these are my personal friends, 0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:03.480 and I understood what it was when we all played. 0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:08.520 So you know, when I played Man, I locked into 0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:10.799 who was rolling with me? And if you notice, I 0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:14.439 never really fragnized with it the other side. I dapt 0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:16.040 you say, what up? But it was never like a 0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:18.359 you know what I'm saying, unless I really really never 0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:20.400 That was probably maybe one or two a handful of 0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:23.600 guys I count on one hand, right, So when it 0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:27.840 came to make a jump to poadcasting and stuff, I 0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:30.680 thought those experiences of being able to share some of 0:49:30.680 --> 0:49:33.440 those stories and you know the fact that I have 0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:36.160 never sat back and had a real conversation with you 0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:39.680 before we got in here to let you know my 0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:42.040 respects towards you, and when I was a fan of 0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:44.600 yours and your body of work, and the reason why 0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:46.719 I was growling it, I ain't growled at everybody ain't 0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:48.640 no manin no, ain't no nigga ever gonna come back 0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:50.239 up and like man Kevin and im growded than me. 0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:52.400 I'm only doing that the niggas that I got, you 0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:54.759 understand what I'm saying. So I had a certain level 0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:57.200 of respect for you, so to come on here just 0:49:57.280 --> 0:49:58.839 feel me. You know, I'm saying. Let them know that man, 0:49:59.200 --> 0:50:00.799 not only that fuck with you, but you know your 0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:02.560 little brother when he came in Brooklyn and cuffed them 0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:05.759 like that was That's what this is. That's what to me, 0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:09.040 that's what the podcast brain is laying. It's for It's 0:50:09.080 --> 0:50:10.640 for me to be able to I took all this 0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:13.520 experience and let me just throw out these experiences. Hey man, 0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:15.279 this happened to me over here, This happened, and that's 0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:17.160 all it is for me to be able to make 0:50:19.320 --> 0:50:22.319 reference to things that I've been through to what these 0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:24.160 young guys are going through, to let them show that 0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:26.959 the parody is very similar. Bro. But you're thinking it's hard, 0:50:26.960 --> 0:50:30.560 bro shit, y'all ain't practicing, bro. Imagine having a practice. 0:50:30.600 --> 0:50:32.719 Matter of fact, imagine doing two days for thirty days. 0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:35.239 Y'all ain't so when I share some of this experiences 0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:38.279 only to bring it back to today's game, because I 0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:40.480 think today's game, the young boys think it a certain way. 0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:44.040 But man, Bro, but ten years ago it's a whole 0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:46.279 nother way and a whole nother way of style. So 0:50:47.480 --> 0:50:50.960 taking that greatness too, Bro, remember this about yourself. You know, 0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:53.040 when you went to wait for its, you became great there. 0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:55.560 You can't to lead. You established a greatness about yourself 0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:58.400 so much that you gotta brand now to where you 0:50:58.440 --> 0:51:00.839 got a podcast. You coming up here speaking on not 0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:04.400 just in the NBA experience, but IQ and articulating for 0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:07.759 your audience. Right, that's a greatness. It was no way 0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:08.960 I think, y'all, I was gonna come in here and 0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:12.040 see you two sixty five or overweight, looking like a bum. 0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:14.160 Note you know what I'm saying, as Bro, Because you 0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:16.880 got a greatness about you, so I would expect that 0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:19.279 when you walk off the court to have the same thing. Bro. 0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:22.319 I tried to dominate every point that I was on 0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:25.040 the court. Who's to say you put that up when 0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:26.640 you step off of it. You know, I just took 0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:28.960 that same image. I put it into something else. If 0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:32.319 you ask my partners at Contact Cartel, my partners they'll 0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:34.319 tell you how hard I go at that shit when 0:51:34.360 --> 0:51:36.960 we put out when when we put our shows together, 0:51:37.840 --> 0:51:39.840 I'm up all night. I don't use no cards, just 0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:42.160 all off my dome. I ripped and this is my 0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:44.239 This is my vision for the world and what I 0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:46.239 want to give them for. When we shoot I shoot 0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:48.920 it with p who's my real best friend in real life, 0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:52.680 and he's as crazy as they come. So y'all get 0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:55.120 to see the two guys who real best friends talk 0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:57.759 basketball in front of y'all, and so we you know, 0:51:57.840 --> 0:51:59.480 we clean it up as much as we can, but 0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:01.200 we like to be y'all selves. We dress how we 0:52:01.239 --> 0:52:03.480 fucking dress were coming here. You know what I'm saying, 0:52:03.480 --> 0:52:05.520 Like like all this, put a nigga in the box 0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:07.319 and have them talk like this and wind them up 0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:10.200 and then any when that dude that ship out of here. 0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:13.839 Fuck that niggas ain't doing that ship no more. Fire man, bro, 0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:16.360 you know what is from us, And that's why I 0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:19.080 love about y'all show y'all show fire because it's from y'all. 0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:20.719 You know what I'm saying. I love how you came 0:52:20.760 --> 0:52:22.759 on here talking your ship. You know what I'm saying. 0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:25.160 I keep going, nah, thank you, Bro, I didn't want 0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:27.240 It's all good, Lord, And then you're gonna be careful 0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:30.040 on how you got up. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Man, 0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:35.120 I ain't no bus driving my nigga. I'n some real 0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:37.839 ship for real. I wore twenty one because of you all. 0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:42.400 This real ship, Bro, that'st respect, that's respects. That's before 0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:44.279 you even probably start watching our probab when we first 0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:46.640 start talking. And they used to jone on me for 0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:49.920 being like the first five team power four And that's 0:52:49.960 --> 0:52:53.200 my favorite power for it, bros. The first face of 0:52:53.280 --> 0:52:56.240 what you saying, first face up four bro at five 0:52:56.600 --> 0:52:59.239 then bro like that. I called it the praying Manton Yeah, 0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:02.000 and I was built like this. So you've been this 0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:04.759 whole just side, your whole body, your whole life. Shout 0:53:04.800 --> 0:53:12.080 out to my grandma's side. No, you got sixteen and 0:53:12.160 --> 0:53:15.719 ten K sixteen ten? What's that mean? That was my 0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:19.200 status whole word sure in Indianapolis And I played with 0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:24.160 George too. Yeah, yeah, Well what the fuck is George 0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:25.120 Hill at these days? 0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:28.000 Antonio? You're on the far on. 0:53:29.040 --> 0:53:31.680 I saw that nigga got John thought he was that's George. 0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:35.200 That the Dreads, George Hill like skin, George Hell Yeah, yeah, 0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:37.360 my bad bad he ain't got no George Hill Arizona, 0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:41.920 George George here Yeah, George bad mother. Fuck George Hill, 0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:45.759 bad motherfuck too by Yeah talk ship Yeah, a little 0:53:45.800 --> 0:53:49.520 light skinned ass nigga Yeah, go fuck with g oh people. Man, 0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:51.399 we appreciate you for coming on though. 0:53:51.440 --> 0:53:55.000 Man, this is you know what I'm saying, one time 0:53:55.040 --> 0:53:55.640 for the one time. 0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:57.480 That's what's up man, The. 0:53:57.440 --> 0:54:04.440 Ticket, anything, it's possible, It's possible, all right, man, this 0:54:04.520 --> 0:54:05.040 is a blessing. 0:54:05.080 --> 0:54:05.239 Man. 0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:07.080 We had the legend blessings with his presence. 0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:09.960 Man, my man's our concert going crazy, human pee, keep 0:54:09.960 --> 0:54:12.319 it entertained and keep it authentic, you know what it is. 0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:14.680 Club five twenty Hennessy were about to go to dres 0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:16.880 and had a real fun. We appreciate you rocking with us, 0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:18.759 Hennessey Arid. It's been a hell of a time. We're 0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:20.000 gonna catch you on the next time. 0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:24.560 Well, y'all Yeah, five twenty