KSR Postgame UK FB vs Auburn 10/27/24

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Speaker 1: Well, Ryan Lemon here local teller leaders KSR postgame show. I am like each and every one of you listening right now. You may be driving home from the game, you may be stuck in traffic, you may be up at home and you can't go to sleep for what you just saw. And I am like each and every one of you, asking myself, what in the heck is going on? What in the world has happened to our football team? And if you just heard Mark Stoops, he's not sure either. If you just heard Dick Gabriel and Jeff Piccarl and Tom Leach, they're not sure either. Something has happened to our football team that I still believe is the most talent Mark Stoops has had since he's been here on one team. But how can you lose with his now seven straight SEC home games, seventh straight, oh and four this year SEC home games, and you are now in your last thirteen SEC home games two and eleven. I don't know, man, I don't know what has happened. I'm upset, I'm mad, I'm disappointed, I'm embarrassed. I'm I'm embarrassed that these this this three game stretch. Well, let's let's back it up a little more. You went down and you beat ole miss on the road and held them to half of their six hundred yard average. You held them to around three hundred yards of offense. Since then, you let Vandy man handle you. They punked you on your own field. You went down to Florida and you stunk it up against a struggling Florida team. And then here comes Auburn that's been struggling, one of the worst records in the SEC, and they ran all over you. Your first three possessions, you hold them. Defense held for three and out on the first possession, right then they got the interception by Waller and then turnover on downs on the third position. So Auburn's first three possessions defense looks awesome. Three and out, an interception, turnover on downs. After that they start handing the ball to the Hunter guy. You couldn't stop him. Your defense that everybody's been bragging on that I got fussed at today on the pregame show and I said, I don't know why we're patting his defense on the back here. Lately, they fell apart and could not stop runner jark Quz Hunter, who now has the most rushing yards against Kentucky in the history of CommonWell Stadium slash Croger Field. It's not herschel Walker, it's not Bo Jackson, it's not George Rogers, it's not Emmitt Smith. It's Jark Quas Hunter ran for two hundred and seventy eight yards most ever at Kroger Field and Auburn on I'm just go to some of the defense, just for a minute. Auburn major defense look horrible. I mean, I know we lost JJ Reaver, Derreck Jackson, Maxwell Harrison's not out there, doesn't matter. You got enough talent out there. You should not let Auburn run all over you that last there's last two drives. They went what eighty yards and ninety yards on back to back drives. I think something like that offense. I mean, I know our quarterback kind of struggled Brock did in the first half, but then you make the switch at halftime and give the ball to Gavin wimstt wimset and it's like, all of a sudden, there's no no And it's not Gavin Wimson's fault. I'm not want to say it's his fault, but there was no urgency there was no sense of urgency, there was no rhythm, there was no there was nothing. Three and out looked bad. And some of it's going on the play calling. I don't know why. I think it was Gimpson's second drive out there. Will Cox and Patterson didn't even touch the ball. You got two guys that are running the ball pretty well, didn't even touch the ball. They threw three, three long balls in that one possession. It was an awful possession. It was an awful game. It was an awful performance. And now Kentucky is probably not gonna go to a bowl game. One in five in the sec three and five overall, and the way they're playing, you think they're gonna go down and beat Tennessee and Knoxville. No, you think they go down and beat Texas and Texas. No, you think they can beat Louisville. Probably not. So the bow streak is going to end. And to be honest, they don't deserve to go to a bowl game. They have the talent where they should be going to a bowl game. They don't deserve it the way they've played. And I know, well, I'm at Chaos Bar and grill right now, and our bar is full of people that are in here because they're mad, they're upset. We love this team, we love Mark Stoops, but people are not happy. Now. I know we got a couple of Auburn fans in here and they're celebrating. But I'm just looking at these guys' faces in here, and we're all just like, we didn't just get punched in the punched in the stomach. We've been punched in the crotch. We've been kicked in the crotch tonight and it hurts and it's not a good feeling, especially after what we've experienced lately with our UK football program. So I, like I said, I say here and listen to the postgame show and listen to Jeff and Tom and Dick kind of break it down and nobody seems to know the answer how of how to fix it what's wrong? And I don't either. And then when I heard Mark Stoops come on, you know, he said some things I want my coach to say. You know, he sounds he sounds hurt. You know, he didn't make any excuses. He kind of owned up to everything. That's the right, that's the right way to handle it, because life is not good. But the UK football team. Our studio engineer Billy Rutledge is uh he joined us. Billy before we get some phone calls, what was your take on everything that transpired tonight over there at Kergerfield.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think you'd hit the nail on the head in the beginning when you talked about how much talent this roster has and how is it possible that they could be this bad this late in the year. It's a failure f A.

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Speaker 1: I l U R E.

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Speaker 2: Ryan, There's no other way to put it. And I do want to give some props to our guy Dame t though. If there was one bright spot today, it was your man who is going to be playing on Sundays one of these days.

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Speaker 3: Ryan.

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Speaker 2: That was an incredible performance on him, and I give him a lot of credit for not only that, but doing the postgame interview with Jeff afterwards.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you saying that because obviously I think when I brag on him, they I think he gets misconscrewed sometimes. But he did miss great, played great. He's been playing great all season and I would hate to think where this football team would be without him because he is the only constant on offense. That this team has had all season.

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Speaker 2: You're right, I mean, take away a penalty. They had three yards in two drives in the third quarter. I mean when Auburn was going fourteen plays, seventy five yards, seven plus minutes, winning the middle eight. Yep, it was Kentucky that just laid down.

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Speaker 1: And they you know, they got they got a break right before halftime where they got the sack and Vandy couldn't get the field goal unit out there in time, so it went into halftime tied at ten. I thought that was huge. I remember I told Dante, I said, man, if they can just come out and get a stop, because Vanderbilt got the ball to start the second half, I said, if Kentucky can just get a stop, you know, they can maybe do some damage here. Well, like you said, they let Vandy go the length of the field pretty much and take seven minutes off the clock.

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Speaker 2: And not only that, it was on eight straight run plays to start that drive, they just ran right up the middle on us Ryan.

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Speaker 1: I would too. They our run defense was awful. I mean, this great defense we've bragged so much about was awful. Hunter. They couldn't stop him. Aupron did the right thing. They kept giving it to him because Kentucky sure wasn't gonna toss stop him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty three carries, two hundred and seventy eight yards, two touchdowns. You just you couldn't do anything to stop a guy. And again you can't score inside the five yard line. How bad is that?

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Speaker 1: That's the third time now that has happened. Three out of the last what four games? We've had it inside the five first and goal and can't puch can't get a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Kentucky got a lot of breaks in this game, like you said, the end of the first half, their kicker missed a field goal in the second half to keep Kentucky in the game, and they just didn't take advantage of any of it. And it feels like the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: It does, you know that. That's You're right, it does, And I think that's why I feel so dejected. This season's over. They are not going to a bowl game. Even if they beat Louisville. I'm still not gonna be happy with what has happened. This season started out great well. First of all, late arriving crowd, Billy, I mean, it was a very late arriving crowd, like the seats didn't get filled until they're lining up for the opening kickoff. There was no excitement in that stadium, no energy, no buzz at all until kickoff, and then everybody finally got there and there was a buzz. They hold, you know, they hold them to three and out get the ball, boom, you get a field goal. I think, well, maybe they Kentucky scored first, got the field goal, held them to three and out, got the ball back and scored a touchdown if ten to nothing, and the stadium's kind of a lie. But then the next seven possessions zero points zero.

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Speaker 2: It was awful, Yeah, it really was. And then you know, Brock through one of the worst interceptions I've seen this year.

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Speaker 1: Oh that was bad. Uh.

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Speaker 2: And then after that in the second half, they go to Gavin wims At and he really didn't do much, if at anything at all.

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Speaker 1: So the offense and again I'm not gonna say anything bad but against Gavin Wimson, but the offense stalled. There was no urgency. They're running the play clock down to the final seconds where they snapped the ball and there you know, you're down two touchdowns. I mean, I just don't understand some of the play calls and the way the offense is being.

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Speaker 2: Run against a bad Auburn team, Ryan against the team that had won a game in the conference. Now you're the worst team in the conference.

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Speaker 1: It's Kentucky and Mississippi State. They maybe they need to meet for the Egg Bowl, Cereal Bowl or whatever to see who's the worst in the SEC. Look, and I know, like we're gonna get a lot of bad calls. It's deserved, you know. We'll try to let everybody speak their piece. Eight five nine two eight two tweet said we'll take our break, come back with Lona up Billy Local Total deaders KSR postgame show. Kentucky loses tonight twenty four to ten. We'll be right back. Welcome back Local Total deaders KSR postgame show. Cats lose twenty four to ten to a bad band Auburn team almost said Vanderbilt. They've already lost to vander godlave Man seven straight SEC home losses. Just let that seek in. Come on, man, programs better in that, Teams better than that. How can how can this happen? So we're gonna get everybody on, but I'll try to read. We're getting a lot of text messages and things two and tweet stuff. I'll try to kind of mi mix them in as we go. I'm gonna read this one. It says, it's just incredibly disappointing how this season has crumbled over the last few weeks, and I can't imagine how fans mentally can recover from this. That sums it up, and that's that's how I feel. I feel like the season is over and I don't know what can make me. Well. Of course they go down to beat Tennessee, I'm going to be like, yeah, I'm back onboard, and at this moment, I'm not feeling it. So do you agree with that season? With that what they said, Billy, that fans mentally are going to have a hard time recovering from what we've just seen these last three weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I no doubt. But that's not out of line. I mean, you looked at this three game stretch and you licked your lips a little bit, you know what I mean. Vandy Florida amor And that's doable. You can set yourself up and have a big game at Tennessee or at Texas. But now you're looking at a game versus Murray State where there may not be a lot of people in the crowd.

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Speaker 1: Man, after the Ole Miss win, we were talking possibly going get a chance to get in the playoffs nine and three because they were gonna win these next three games, Vanderbilt, Florida and Auburn. That seems ridiculous. Now that's how things change, and nobody seems to know what is the reason why. All right, it's go to the phone lines. Billy, who's our first caller? Stub, Stub, go ahead, Stub.

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Speaker 4: Hey guys, Hey, Stubb, you know what you know what Bill Parcels used to say, you are what your record says you are. They just don't have the players.

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Speaker 5: They've got some talent, They've got good skill, uh players, but the offensive line is not very good. It comes down to Demmies and Joe's. They don't have a good offensive line and they're just not very good. Also, what do you think will be the over under on the attendance of the Murray State game? Twenty five thousand?

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Speaker 4: Over or under?

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the phone call, Stub, I mean it'll probably be over twenty five thousand. It's you know, they should be able to get that. But Billy, after that last uh interception in the fourth quarter on the goal line. On the goal line, the interception it uh, it emptied out really really really fast. And they were definitely less than twenty five thousand people there by the end of the game. Oh.

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Speaker 2: What was What was maddening for me was you were down two possessions and every time you were snapping the ball, there was one second left on the play clockency I mean Tom and Jeff screaming into the MIC's like, let's go, let's get this offense rolling.

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Speaker 1: I am with you. I don't understand how they could. You're down two touchdowns. You got to be playing a little more up tempo, and you're what you're taking the clock down of the final second before he snapped the ball.

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Speaker 2: I was surprised they benched Brock like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean he, I mean he didn't he didn't play well in the first half. He you know, he had a bad half. He threw a really bad long ball to the burryon that he threw one to Dane. It was about three feet from behind. Dame was cutting across the middle and threw it like three feet behind him. He made a really bad interception, and I think, well, here's what I know. That's why I picked Gavin Wibson as my MVP, because he was supposed to come in like the third series, not just for a play for a series, and I just felt like, you know, maybe he was gonna run the ball a lot. Well, they must they must have changed their mind. They scored, you know, they're just scored in their first two possessions. So he didn't come in and just periodically until the second half, they thought they gave him the keys over, so okay, we're gonna run a series with you kept him in there. That's second series that he was in when will Cox and Patterson didn't even touch the ball and they threw like three deep balls. They weren't even close. I mean, I don't know, man, I just wonder where some heads are at. Okay, who's next phone call? Ethan, Ethan, go ahead, Ethan.

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Speaker 6: Hey, so we're at the point where the fan base is like, we'd be happy with making the great value Torkilla chip bowl, and that's just it's just so embarrassing. And I get this, maybe putting you on the spot, so it might be a better question almost for Billy, but like, if you're a parent of one of these players that might be playing on Sundays one day. What are you saying to your kid whenever that transfer portal opens up? Like, I don't see, because I mean, it's it's just pitiful being on this team anymore. It's like you're not helping yourself in any way. Like this game here in a couple of weeks is gonna look like a Thursday night JV's football game.

00:17:56
Speaker 4: I've got season tickets.

00:17:57
Speaker 6: No part of me wants to drive two hours to go watch this team play. It's beautiful.

00:18:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, appreciate the phone call. You know it, this this passed offseason before the season started. You don't think Dion Walker, dayne Key, Barryon Brown, Maxwell Harrison. They had other schools courting them. They those four guys are gonna play in the NFL. They all could have left, They all could have transferred, played somewhere else. They all chose to stay here. They believed in what was going on here, the culture here. But something has happened, something has changed, and I honestly believe nobody knows what the answer is to this problem.

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Speaker 2: Well, it works the other way too, because I don't think Dion Walker's earning the Bukuo nil dollars that Kentucky gave him. Right, he's not the word Brock Vandergriff, He's not. I mean it goes both ways. But if I'm talking to my son or daughter that could be potentially making a million dollars elsewhere if the transfer portals open, I'd say, you have to do what's best for you, right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think you know, we've got some good young talent on this team that'll probably be hearing from some other schools and using now against us. Like man, you don't want to play for them, you know. They just they lost to Vandy, Auburn, and Florida, three teams that maybe have losing records in the SEC when the season is all said and done. Although Vandy looked good again today.

00:19:32
Speaker 2: It's like Iowa football, Ryan, except you're not winning any games.

00:19:36
Speaker 1: Who's the next phone call, Matt? Matt?

00:19:38
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Matt, Hey, Ryan, how's it going?

00:19:43
Speaker 1: Not well? Matt? How are you doing?

00:19:46
Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 7: Down here in Nashville, Tennessee, we're holding it down as much as we can.

00:19:51
Speaker 4: But you know, with all these.

00:19:52
Speaker 8: Tennessee fans, these Vandy fans.

00:19:55
Speaker 7: It's not going pretty good.

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Speaker 9: You know, I wish we would have done a whole lot better against Vanderbilt than.

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Speaker 10: We actually did.

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Speaker 9: You know, it seems like Vanderbilt has passed us into SEC and we cannot get.

00:20:09
Speaker 4: Back on top of them.

00:20:11
Speaker 10: They beat us in football, and.

00:20:13
Speaker 4: Who knows what is next.

00:20:15
Speaker 11: You know, it just pains me to.

00:20:18
Speaker 9: See because this football season, we all look forward to this, We all look forward.

00:20:24
Speaker 7: To the seven to eight games in.

00:20:27
Speaker 9: September, October, and November, and then we just lose them all for home games, you know, I you know, I am not to the point where I want to fire suits at all, but I want to win some dang home games.

00:20:43
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Ryan, Thank you, Matt appreciate it. He said what we've we've all been saying. Man, I don't know what has happened to our ability to win on your own field and play well on your home field. I don't have our ability to stop people. I don't want to have our ability to get the ball in the end zone. So we've played what now, six SEC games, and I think we only have six touchdowns? Is that right? Six offensive touchdowns? That right? I gotta look, I think that's right. I think we've had six games and only scored six touchdowns, and your offense should be better than that. It is better than that. So who's next?

00:21:31
Speaker 2: Billy Elliott?

00:21:33
Speaker 1: Elliott, go ahead, Elliott.

00:21:37
Speaker 4: Hey, Ron, Hey, Eliott, Hey.

00:21:39
Speaker 7: Is there any way to exchange my last two season tickets for maybe a basketball game?

00:21:48
Speaker 1: You know we're gonna start hearing more of that, Elliott, where people are gonna just have tuned out because basketball season is upon us. That's just how life is here in our state.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, yeah, it was just aggravating this. It looked like two completely different teams from the first quarter to the last three, and it's the same way from Georgian and Ole Miss to the rest of the season. I'm just confused, and I know everybody else is too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, appreciate phone call, man, Elliott. You're right man. In Georgia, they played Georgia, who may win the national title again to one point. You hold Georgia to thirteen points, You crushed Ohio, and then you go on the road and you beat o Miss. Ole Miss may still get in the playoffs, and then the last three games. Man, nobody, now, my football buddies, nobody has given me an answer. What's gonna I did have one of my football friends text me. I'm gonna read his text. I'm not gonna tell who it is. He said, we have a serious culture problem with our team. M you know we heard, we've heard other former players say a leaderless team. You know, I don't know, man, I don't. I don't think anybody knows the answer or can put their finger. Do you have any idea, Billy, what would be your guess?

00:23:18
Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Now, it's tough. I mean when you know everybody's got a play until you get punched in the face. You've heard that a couple of times before, but I think that's amplified when you don't do the little things right, the attention to detail, the entitlement. I think we've talked about that for the past couple of years.

00:23:37
Speaker 12: You know.

00:23:38
Speaker 2: The sad part is, you know Mark Stoops is thrown away what he's built.

00:23:42
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yep.

00:23:43
Speaker 2: The streak is ending of eight straight seasons to making a Bowl. That's impressive. That's not a lot of teams that have done that before.

00:23:52
Speaker 1: I can't, like we all said, he's done things here that most people thought could never be done. Win eight games in a season. Come on, man, not Kentucky go to a Bowl. Game eight years in a row. That ain't happening in Kentucky. He got the program where they were beating every year South Carolina, Mississippi State, Missouri, Vanderbilt. Now those teams are punking you. Not just beating you, they're beating you down and making you look pitiful.

00:24:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, this season's not living up to the standard that he built here.

00:24:25
Speaker 1: Amen, They're exactly right. And I think if you heard him tonight, he owned up to it. Like I said, he didn't make any excuses. That's why I like the guy. Okay, let's get one more than go to our break, Nathan, Nathan, go ahead and Nathan.

00:24:40
Speaker 10: Yeah, I just want to stay. It was super disappointing to see what I.

00:24:46
Speaker 13: Guess my biggest disappointment is, like to see Gavin come in so early?

00:24:50
Speaker 10: Does that not turn Brock off? I know we don't have a line that that lets Brock do his thing whatever this that, but like, just see other quarterback come in so.

00:25:01
Speaker 13: Soon to me, that would throw me off.

00:25:04
Speaker 10: I mean I've never played college football.

00:25:05
Speaker 14: I played high school.

00:25:06
Speaker 13: Just that my coach was to bring.

00:25:09
Speaker 10: Me out on a third and so what and put another player in.

00:25:14
Speaker 13: It's just like, oh, am, I not doing the right thing, which then again it comes back on him. And also I want to state Dion, I mean, did he just come in and play when he wanted to play tonight? He didn't start, so why bring him back in?

00:25:29
Speaker 10: Thank you all, GOKSR appreciate it.

00:25:32
Speaker 1: Well, you know, Walker was hurt. He was even questionable whether he was going to play. So I give him a little credit if he's you know, toughed it out, try to get out there and play. He didn't have his best game. And I think about the quarterbacks. You know, you'll hear people argue, Billy, a two quarterback system never ever, ever, ever, ever works. I think they wanted to use Gavin some because there the running back room was so thin. He gave him another pair of legs. He does run the ball pretty well. Like I said, I had heard he was gonna come in in the third series tonight regardless, and then they scored and maybe they just pushed it. Then after Brock struggled, they went ahead and throw him out there to start the second half. So but answer the guy's question, Billy, I think yeah, I mean he would You're not You're an athlete. You want to play, and if you get bitched. It definitely I think would mess with your head.

00:26:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're also going to see what you have in Gavin, and you know you gotta start thinking about what you're gonna do next year. But that was a game that you could have won this year and you still could have been bull eligible. Seems like a quick rash decision to me. But Rock made some pretty bad plays in the first half. There's no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Well take our break, come back, go back to the phone lines eight five to nine two eight zho two two eight seven. Kentucky loses their seventh straight SEC home game, now two and eleven in their last thirteen SEC home games, losing tonight twenty four to ten dollars and were right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio, Well come back Local Totadoes KSR postgame show after the Cats lose again, this time to Auburn twenty four to ten. Uh. I did get a text that's kind of some disap kind of some bad news for somebody, says, some jerk broke into my car and left to Murray State tickets. See if we're gonna start getting that. Now we're gonna start getting that.

00:27:26
Speaker 2: How do you keep getting these postgame shows, by the way, I you think you have impact the result?

00:27:32
Speaker 1: Yes, because you know I was supposed to do the Florida postgame show last week. That's right. They stunk it up, and Matt decided, Man, you know he needed to come in and do it because it was such a bad loss. You know, I I've I've lost track of the ones I did the I know I did the Evansville basketball loss. I did the uh uh Saint Peter's postgame loss because Drew and Matt were there. Uh, there's a lot of football ones I've done.

00:28:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not very lucky at those.

00:28:08
Speaker 1: No, I'm trying to even think back towards there are some really bad ones I did over the years. I can't remember eight five, nine, two tweets. Let's go back the phone lines. Who we got Ryan, Ryan?

00:28:17
Speaker 8: Go ahead, Ryan, Hey, how y'all doing tonight?

00:28:20
Speaker 1: Ryann?

00:28:23
Speaker 7: I know, I know.

00:28:24
Speaker 8: Look, I don't want to say this, and I've been saying it for a while. Our football program we're great. We have a great football program, great spirits around here. Our fans are awesome, like our basketball program awesome. I just believe, like I've been saying, I called in a couple of weeks ago and said, we're stuck in neutral. But I was on the I was on y'all's YouTube where you posted his comment and a comment on there and said that, you know, we need a new face. It's time for a new change. His times up. We're stuck in neutral. Somebody called back. We commented backs and pick, We're not stucking neutral, We're stuck in reverse with suits. I mean, I don't know what's going on with this program. I mean, I love, I say I love our football teams, but we were way better. We're way better than what we're playing this year. And I do believe that if we had a new face, maybe you would give us a fresh start. Like y'all coming and said that, uh, you know, you don't know what's going on. Maybe it's you know, morale around the team, the spirit. Maybe if we got a new coach like we did in basketball, maybe that you know, be a good, good head start to it. But I appreciate y'all taking my call, and y'all have a good rest of your night, says going home.

00:29:32
Speaker 1: Thank you, Ryan. Appreciate it, brother. You know it goes along with this text. I just got on the Avy as a glass text machine. Forever grateful to Stoop for what he gave us, so difficult to see it crumble like this. Would hate his era to end in disgrace the way that Cals did painful. You know, I get it. Yeah, I think we a lot of us feel that way. We're forever grateful for what cal did here, but it was time. It was time for a change. We're gonna forever be grateful for what Mark Stoops did here. A lot of people will getting to that point where maybe it's time for a change.

00:30:07
Speaker 2: Are you there?

00:30:09
Speaker 1: I'm not there.

00:30:10
Speaker 2: You're not there.

00:30:10
Speaker 1: I know I'm not there. And maybe it's because when I hear him on these postgame shows, he sounds as defeated as I feel. I know he doesn't want to go out like this. I know that he's he's proud of what he's done here and build this program. He he hates losing as much as anybody, So I still think there's a lot of fight left in him. It may we may get to see the results of it until next year. You know, I said, I think that this season's over. Who's next? Billy Evan? Evan? Go ahead? Evan? Hey, Ryan, how are you good. How are you, Evan, I'm doing good tonight.

00:30:57
Speaker 15: I just want to talk about you know, I traveled in for the game and the fans, the fans did bring good energy tonight. I thought it was a great environment. The fans have brought the energy pretty much the whole season. The crowds have been great, and I guess that's just kind of why, like going back to last year, the pony up comments kind of irk me because the fans bring it. The fans have brought it, and the product on the field just hasn't been great for the fans to enjoy. I mean what, you know, like we've said, we're what two and ten or two and eleven or sorry, two and nine in the last however, many home games, Conference home games, and it's just not a product on the field that the fans can enjoy. Despite them bringing a very good atmosphere for Kentucky, I.

00:31:58
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Paul, You're right man. Like I said, the crowd was a late arriving crowd, and it was the stating was kind of flat until kickoff and then it really picked up. Fans have showed up, fans were it was an awesome environment for the Vanderbilt game. It was an awesome environment for the Georgia game. It was an awesome environment for the South Carolina game. There is no excuse. This fan base has been there showing full support through this whole season. Now. I don't know how many people are going to the mary State game, but they've They've done their part, There's no doubt about it. They just showed Dane's two catches on the SEC network. Billy. Yeah, see, I'm seeing them on video for the first time. I was there at the game, so I'm seeing video. My goodness.

00:32:41
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, buddy, he was.

00:32:42
Speaker 1: He lost that guy in the first quarter and then in the catching made on the sideline. That's an NFL catch. That's that's a pro catch. Playing simple. Who's next, Chad, Chad, go ahead, Chad.

00:32:56
Speaker 4: Hey, Ryan, I appreciate you doing it. I don't know it probably a tough show for you to do.

00:33:02
Speaker 6: So.

00:33:03
Speaker 16: I keep seeing mattch tweets about we don't have the money, so forget about it. I mean, do we really not think that there might be some donors that will get their money together and decide that it's time for a change. I mean, don't get me wrong, I love what Stoops has done for our program. But I mean it's time. I mean I hate to be this way, but it's time. It's time for a change. We need to I think we need to get like an exploratory committee together. They need to start looking.

00:33:44
Speaker 4: I mean he's lost.

00:33:46
Speaker 16: I mean when you listen to his post game comments, he has lost, and you say it, I say it. There's talent on this team, but he cannot get it going in the direction that we need to. So I honestly hope that there is enough donors to where we can get together and decide that it's time for a change. I'll listen to your comment.

00:34:16
Speaker 1: Okay, Chad, appreciate it. Trying to think of the best way to say this. Big bigger schools that have the big perennial power football programs they've got let's just say one hundred, let's say fifty fifty donors that donate multi millions of dollars. Okay, fifty, Probably most problem may have more. Kentucky has like five. So when people want to buy out stoops contract, it's not that simple. And for them to go to these donors that they're going to all the time to build this facility, grade the program, upgrade the facilities, upgrade the stadium, let's build that. Well, there's only like, there's only like five guys that have that kind of deep pockets that could do something like that. But this is not you know, Texas someplace like that where they could do something like that.

00:35:20
Speaker 2: Maybe Texas A and M spent seventy seven million dollars to buy out Jimbo.

00:35:25
Speaker 1: See, there's there's no way Kentucky would ever have a chance to ever come up with something like that ever, And Mitch Barr wouldn't do it. He wouldn't jeopardize the rest of the athletic programs to buy out a coach. If he had something like that, he would just wouldn't do it. He's got too much pride in the rest of he's program that he helped develop. All Right, we got time for one moment. You gotta take our break here.

00:35:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can take you can take one or two more.

00:35:51
Speaker 1: All right, take another one then we'll take our break at the top of the hour.

00:35:53
Speaker 12: Oh we got Hunter, Hunter, go ahead, Hunter, Hey, how are you guys doing that?

00:35:58
Speaker 1: Well? Could be better?

00:35:59
Speaker 15: Hunter, I know you know, I.

00:36:03
Speaker 12: Was screaming at the TV the entire time I just I'm just frustrated. Ryan, Something's got to give, you know, we can't keep being insane. Sandy's doing the same thing over and over and expecting different outcome, and we've been insane for the last two years. That's all I can say. My two questions is, I know a lot of people have called for Stoops to get fired off. I feel like a lot quicker than Cal Perry. Do you think it's because we had a bad experience with Cal that we're kind of have like a shorter leash on Stoops. And then I actually get to take my dad. I'm from Utah and I get to take my dad to his first ever Kentucky event around Thanksgiving time? Would you rather go to the Western Kentucky basketball game or the football game against the Louisville.

00:36:45
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh, Billy, this is a perfect question for you and me because you're a Western grad. So if you get taken your dad your first first ever UK event, are you going to watch a UK basketball game against your alma mater or your big rivalry football game between Louisville and Kentucky.

00:37:08
Speaker 2: Well, I guess it just depends if you want to see a winner or a loss. If you want to see a loss, I think you got to go to the Western Kentucky basketball game. But if you want to see a win, you want to see the Cats beat down Louisville, then you go to the football game.

00:37:18
Speaker 1: Right. I think if it's just if Tickety's dad to the first one, you want to go to the Kentucky Louisville football game. I mean it actually could mean something for Kentucky because that's maybe their only chance they could salvage what's happened last months of the season.

00:37:33
Speaker 2: Oh, it's not gonna salvage anything, Ryan, Season's over.

00:37:37
Speaker 1: And you know the chances are they're going to run Western Kentucky off the floor and basket.

00:37:42
Speaker 11: Now.

00:37:42
Speaker 2: Ay Now, I don't know if you heard the crowd mic tonight though, Ryan, but the MVP of the game.

00:37:50
Speaker 1: Did our producer sound engineer correct the problem from our caller on the pregame show that said the game mic was too loud?

00:37:58
Speaker 2: But we turned it down a little bit.

00:38:00
Speaker 1: And you did you send some directives to have it turned down?

00:38:04
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:38:04
Speaker 2: You know, I had to send a couple messages out make sure we put on the best broadcast possible, and.

00:38:10
Speaker 1: They followed through, followed your orders.

00:38:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a little lighter crowd, so hopefully that guy that called in had an easier time listening to the game.

00:38:17
Speaker 1: Well, I I he yes, he was very upset that he couldn't hear Jeff and Tom because the crowd mic was too loud, and Billy said he would take care of it today. And you're telling everybody you came through for the game.

00:38:30
Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah, I think we got it all right, Very good tonight.

00:38:33
Speaker 1: You've earned your big paycheck tonight being our sound engineer. All right, we'll take our final break, come back our final segment eight five nine two eight h two to eight seven Ryan Lemon on the Billy Are Sports postgame Show, We'll be right back after this welcome back final segment of the local Totao's KSR postgame show. Cat's a loser twenty four to ten to Auburn, their seventh straight SEC home loss off to one in five into conference. I mean, I could go on and all on, but you want to If you want to get really depressed, go to Corey Price's twitter Corey p zero eight and read some of the about about eight of his last ten posts. If you're not depressed already, that will make you depressed.

00:39:29
Speaker 2: Ryan, they had four hundred and sixty four yards in three quarters. I liked how you did it? Not Bo Jackson, not herschel Walker.

00:39:39
Speaker 1: Not EMMITTT. Smith, not Heisman winner George Rogers. Some guy named Jock Queshunquez Hunter carves up the Cats for the most rushing yards ever in the history of Kroger Field slash CommonWell Stadium against the defense that we all thought was really really good. Remember, we're gonna with a lot of games this year because the defense is gonna keep us in the game. By the way, our offense still the only team in the SEC not to score twenty one points. Ouch, How can like I said, I think that they've got six touchdowns in six games. SEC games can't score twenty one points? What is wrong with you? You get the ball inside the five? What is wrong with you? Speaking of which, you know we talked about. Jamario Willcox was on DraftKings that earlier in the week. If he scored two touchdowns, it was like plus twenty eight hundred. Some guys got on that. He ended up being RB number one. Scores the first touchdown of the game. Those people probably feeling pretty good about themselves. Yeah, why did they not give him the ball when they're down there inside the five? The dude can he can pick it up?

00:40:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he didn't have his shoes on.

00:40:56
Speaker 1: Jay and Linden sends me a great tweet text, I'm sorry. Maybe's with that type machine. I'm worried the NIL money won't be there for what we need next year. That's where it's going to hurt the most, right there. Those people that have donated all this money supported the NIL are going to keep the money in their pockets next year if they feel the way they do tonight. It's his life eight five, two to eighty seven. Who's next, Billy Brandon? Brandon? Go ahead, Brandon, it's me, Yeah, Yeah, go ahead, sir.

00:41:37
Speaker 7: Hey, I you know it.

00:41:38
Speaker 6: Ryan questions. So I was actually I was at the Vandy game.

00:41:41
Speaker 4: I don't know how many years ago.

00:41:43
Speaker 6: I'm twenty four, so it's probably around twelve or thirteen when there was nobody in the bottom level.

00:41:49
Speaker 1: Yep.

00:41:49
Speaker 6: So kind of a different vibe now where we're still losing, but on the stoops kind of question. Not the biggest win in the Stoop's career, but what do you think the best life the fans that I guess in the tenure about this program.

00:42:07
Speaker 1: All right, I appreciate it. I mean, you know, like we've we've said a lot tonight, I think everybody is very thankful for what Mark Stoops has done here and have built a program up that many people thought can never be done. I never thought this Probaly would win eight games in the regular season. Hell, they've won ten twice. Never thought that would ever happen. So I will forever be grateful. And even though I'm upset with the way things are going right now, I, like Billy asked me earlier, I'm still not ready to go get rid of it. I know a lot of people are, and I completely understand that there's nothing wrong with feeling that way. I'm just not one of those guys. Yet, where are you? Billy?

00:42:43
Speaker 2: And the in that argument, I was still thinking about the old the best moments of the Stoops era, and I mine was that drive with Wan Dell. Was that against Iowa.

00:42:53
Speaker 1: We had the like five straight catches or whatever it.

00:42:56
Speaker 2: Was, he got popped on like the first play.

00:42:59
Speaker 1: And is that the guy I was asking the great moments of the Stoops era?

00:43:02
Speaker 2: Well, maybe maybe I misunderstood it. He was just saying maybe some of his favorite moments Austin againnis Field goals in mind, the Missouri game on the road.

00:43:12
Speaker 1: Yes, when the Conrad cd Conrad made that catch. Uh. How about the uh oh I had it and it just lost it.

00:43:19
Speaker 11: Oh?

00:43:20
Speaker 1: The bud Dupree. Yeah? Against South Carolina?

00:43:23
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

00:43:24
Speaker 1: Uh? Jojoe kemp Ran ran the Wildcat like what twelve times in a row? That was? That was? That wasn't joker? Was that was Stoops? Wasn't it?

00:43:34
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that was free dates me? But think about Lynn Bowden taking over at quarterback for half a half a year and you went in the Belk Bowl. Come on, how awesome was that? Some big wins versus Louisville Lamar fumbles.

00:43:48
Speaker 1: There's spent some great, great moments during the Mark Stoops era. The last three weeks are just been disappointed.

00:43:57
Speaker 2: Tennessee coming out next on Prime Time seven forty five, kickoff in.

00:44:02
Speaker 1: Knoxville with the women will be down there chewing tobacco. It's spitting all over.

00:44:07
Speaker 2: My shoes, may be spitting in your face next Saturday.

00:44:11
Speaker 1: Who's next?

00:44:11
Speaker 2: Billy Jordan?

00:44:13
Speaker 1: Jordan? Go ahead, Jordan, Hey, guys.

00:44:18
Speaker 11: I was pretty hard on bush Hamdon last week, and I continue to be pretty hard on tonight. I think it was pretty stupid to bring in Gavin on a first down earlier in the game when defenses know what's coming.

00:44:40
Speaker 1: Oh, there's no doubt. Yeah, I appreciate the phone call. When he comes in, there's no doubt he's running the football. But they tried to mix things up today, had him throw some long balls. I don't know why they did it. They're in the second half during that one possession, but they're trying. They were trying to give him a a shot, give him a chance to Earnie stripes. I just don't know if that's the right time to do it, but that they What would you have done? Bill? Would you have made a change?

00:45:13
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been doing this two quarterback bs the entire season, honestly. I know you want to make everybody happy because you've brought some other people in, but this is football, man, that doesn't really work. Doesn't really work.

00:45:27
Speaker 1: No, let's get another phone call. Who we got Ben? Ben? Go ahead, Ben.

00:45:33
Speaker 10: I just want to say that Gerald Minty's probably the worst offensive.

00:45:38
Speaker 7: Lineman in the SEC right now, and how.

00:45:40
Speaker 3: Hard is it to make defensive adjustments?

00:45:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, appreciate the phone call. You know, we were ready to crown our defense the best ever in the Mark Stoops era, and they were so what they did against Ole Miss. But the last three games, our defense has not been good. Like I said, I said that on the pre show, Billy, I got a little pushback from our boys. But well, let's just go through the Vanderbilt game opening drive. You let Vandigo I think ninety five yards or ninety yards whatever it was. You were like three of thirteen on third down. I'm sorry, Vanderbilt was like ten of thirteen on third that you could not stop them on third down. Florida awful. Florida just picked you apart, did whatever they wanted to against your defense, and tonight we saw a guy just run all over you. So even though the defense didn't play well against Georgian Ole Miss, they have not played well these three games in a row. Now.

00:46:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, and no, they haven't loaded up to expectations. You know, they have been injured. Deeric Jackson got hurt in this game. JJ Weaver got hurt in this game and didn't even come back after he made a big play to end a half. Maxwell Harrison obviously out, but a guy like Doomus Johnson has got to be like, what the heck did I sign up for? You know what I mean? Heat lose one game or maybe one game in three years at Georgia, dudees, what what are we up at?

00:47:08
Speaker 3: Two?

00:47:09
Speaker 2: Now?

00:47:09
Speaker 1: Five? Yeah? What is the record? Now? Three and five?

00:47:15
Speaker 2: Something like that?

00:47:16
Speaker 1: One in five in the SEC. Yeah, we're three and five overall, one in five in the SEC. I'm sorry, Dumas Dumas Walker Johnson. We should have done you better. All right, here's next? Todd is next, Todd, go ahead, all right, Todd.

00:47:32
Speaker 7: Hell, Ryan a.

00:47:36
Speaker 3: Mystery love company, So I thought I'd joined in. Listen, I'm with you, Ryan. I don't think I'm ready to lose stoops. First of all, I don't know who we would get, do you?

00:47:56
Speaker 1: No? People say Brad white people, John Summer, that's what you know. Everybody on social media is pointing towards.

00:48:05
Speaker 3: Yeah. I just I just can't go along with getting rid of them, And like you say, can't afford to pay it anyway, I can't. And I'm hoping things will get better next year. And I'm just was curious as to wondering if there was some permol in the locker room, maybe between players or coaches.

00:48:38
Speaker 1: Appreciate the phone call. I mean, there's there have been other people that have asked that question, and I'm being completely honest, I've not heard anything like that. Matt said he's not hurt anything like that. Drew said he's not hurt anything. Now maybe well that'll come out later, but as of right now, I really have not heard anything where there's a problem in the locker room or a problem with coaches and players. I just that's why it's kind of a head scratcher, what is going on? You know? And even Stoops is like he didn't and he didn't know how the answers either, but they it's it's I don't know a lot of football, but I can watch the game and see that they're not executing on offense. That offense is kind of stuck, and they're some of the play calls don't seem to match the situation. But again, I've never had to make it a be an offensive coordinator, so I don't know. But uh, I just don't know why. Like when Gavin came in build, they seem like that he kind of let off the gas a little bit and you're down fourteen points.

00:49:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, we really haven't seen any extended action of Gavin, so that did seem a little puzzling. But you know, I think we're past anger at this point. It's like misery. It's depression, it's like.

00:49:59
Speaker 1: In bare harassment.

00:50:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, we're I think we're realizing now where we're at.

00:50:06
Speaker 1: I realize I'm the only person left here at ks bar. Grill, Why are you at the bar?

00:50:10
Speaker 2: How come you couldn't go to the house. Your brother's an Auburn fan. They can give you a ride home.

00:50:15
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:50:15
Speaker 1: They wanted to stay to the end of the game, and uh, I don't blame him, and I didn't think I have enough time. I may have been able to make it, but we've been close. I just didn't want to jeopardize. This was such kind of a big, big show where I knew a lot of people would want to call in. I didn't want to put you on the spot, Billy.

00:50:31
Speaker 2: So the poor workers having to wait there till you leave? Are you the last one there?

00:50:35
Speaker 1: I am now the last one here. I do need a ride home? Can somebody take me home? We would take another phone call.

00:50:41
Speaker 2: Who we got Thomas's next?

00:50:43
Speaker 1: Thomas, go ahead, Thomas.

00:50:47
Speaker 14: Dank. He had an awesome night. He's definitely NFL quality. But Mark Stewbs has capped his productivity in Kentucky, and I know we're stuck with him. Can get rid of him, but look at the offensive courts we've gone through. We got to stop saying these offensive play calls. Why do we call this? Why do you call this? It's reflective of the head coach period. But I think he's captured productivity and we're not going to be better. South Carolina's passed us up, Vanderbilt, Missouri, all those three schools have passed us up. I think we're done with him.

00:51:22
Speaker 1: Appreciate the phone call. You know, Vince Merrill, who came on this radio show, came on on ks R and said, you know, we now beat South Carolina every year. We now beat Vanderbilt every year. We now beat Missisippi State every year. We now beat Missouri every year. Now gotta go beat Georgia. That's where we were, man, we were at a point where we had we were no longer in the bottom echelon of the SEC. We were knocking on the door at the top. We were going after Georgia for crying out loud, and he said many times, we still have to prove we can beat Georgia. Man, they almost did it. This year. Thirteen twelve was the don't score no touchdowns. You did not score a touchdown, but there's still one point. Now we are at the bottom of the sec. Not not even in the middle. We are at the bottom of the sec, knocking on the door down there with Mississippi State, Auburn, whoever else is foundering down there. Yeah, you can tact take that. We got one more call, Billy, Yeah, one more Okay, we see how we we gotta somehow, we got to in on some positivity. So be thinking of that after we take this last phone call. Okay, who's our last call? Nolan? Nolan, go ahead, Nolan.

00:52:40
Speaker 9: First off, I just want to start by saying, you know, thanks guys for staying up late. You know, I know you all have a lot invested Billy. You're at the station all day, Ryan, you know you want to be you know, home, celebrating or at least kind of dealing with some thoughts. So the fact that you all stay on so late and you know, kind of help the fans work through this. It really doesn't know a lot. But I have trying to think what would I say, and I think there is so much to say. You know, we have struggles at quarterback. We can't shift to a different style of defense when they're running it straight up the middle. We can't figure out to go to a single high safety and.

00:53:14
Speaker 4: Loads the box.

00:53:14
Speaker 9: I mean, at the end of the day, that's just a game of numbers, right, And you know I listen to KASR every day. You know, we can't get rid of stoops. But at the end of the day, you do have to ask, you know, what's going on. It was crazy all night.

00:53:30
Speaker 3: Even when we.

00:53:30
Speaker 9: Make big plays, you didn't see guys running off the field. There wasn't a sense of urgency, like you said, you saw guys quitting on plays. Dame had an incredible night. He was working his butt offs, but there was just moments where you could see, like the team quit on us. You know, I save up every single year, have a side hustle even to save up for football tickets. Football truly is something that the fan can become a part of. Basketball is hard, but football you can really feel like you're part of a program and you can feel like you earned a product. This program has gotten to a point where the fans just you know, it's just not worth it for some of us. You know, I have to drive two and a half hours in this case, I'm on my way back to Bowling Green right now, to drive back two and a half hours after watching that. It's miserable. I will say on a positive note, the one thing that does kind of help keep me through is all of these young players that have come in that event has brought in. You know, we had that four star tight end that we picked up from South Carolina. Today we still have Cutter Bowley, We have all these young kids coming in. My one thought leaving this is, you know, clearly the people we're putting out there, whether it's a lack of effort or just play style, I don't know what it is, but the guys that we've got out there, they aren't just cutting it. I don't see how we can do much worse. I don't know why we start to look maybe put in some of these younger tackles and guards. You know, how do these young wide receivers do? You know, I don't know if Cutter's ready, but but you don't give him a reper to just kind of see what happened. What we have is not working, So I would be excited to see do we have something for the future or do we just need to look to do a complete cleaning the slate. Gentlemen, I'd love to hear your thoughts. Once again, appreciate all you all do.

00:55:16
Speaker 1: Have a great night, great phone call. Actually, as we kind of like, look, they lost the game, the bigger the bigger point of view to me is the program. You've heard me say, all right tonight, I'm not in the ship that think the program is done. I think there's still a little gas in the tank for that guy, for Coachdobes. I still believe in him. Actually, he's the guy I want leading my program. Yes, the last three games have stunk. I'm embarrassed, I'm mad, I'm upset, I'm not happy, But you know what, he's not either. So I'm still in the boat willing to give that man a chance to get it back on the right track. Because, like that callers said, Billy, there is a lot of very good young talent on that sideline, and I think there's still a lot of good football coming from that program.

00:56:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's earned a bad year right, eight consecutive bowl seasons bringing Kentucky up from the ashes. He's done a lot, so maybe he deserves our grace. Can we get the Tyson Chicken guy to take him out to dinner or something?

00:56:23
Speaker 1: Void?

00:56:23
Speaker 2: That forty million dollars byout that seems to be a big obstacle. But you know, I'm with you, Ryan, I mean, this guy has done a lot of good and we can't put the blame solely on him. But I don't know, man, Like you said, you see this game versus Georgia, you see them win versus Old Miss. You know it's in there somewhere. Why have we not seen it against three mediocre SEC teams.

00:56:46
Speaker 1: I want to end the show with this. A lot of our young fans don't remember Kentucky going one in ten, two and nine. Kentucky fans just begging for six wins. We can go to a bowl game thinking that when Tim Couch went seven and five, we had just won the National championship, won the Rose Bowl because we went seven and five and played in the Outback Bowl, and then the next year, oh my goodness, went to the Music City Bowl, with Dusty Bonner back to back years the bowl game. You don't understand how happy this fan base was just to go to a bowl game, just to go to a bowl game. Now we're mad when we don't go. We don't get eight wins. Now we're mad we don't play on a New Year's Day bowl game. That's how far this program has come. Yes, it's not the greatest at the moment. Corey Price, who just walked in the last three weeks have not been fun. But I want the young fans to understand where we've come from. Believe he might be one of those guys look back at the era of the early nineties and see how far we've come from those days. Then maybe you'll give you have a little more grace and a little more patience to let us try to let him steer the boat back on track. That's what I want to say. Listen, thank you to everybody who came out here to KOs Bar. We had a great pregame crowd. God bless every one of you that went to the game and set through that and all these home games that they've lost, the crowd has been awesome. We we used to complain about the crowd and the fans not showing up. You can't say that anymore. Man. They show up and they're loud, and they they they've done their part. So thank you to each and every one of you that went to the game. Thank for everybody who tuned in tonight. You know, it's kind of group therapy. It's kind of like, you know, we're all sitting on the couch in the therapist room and we're all talking our problems out tonight. Billy.

00:59:00
Speaker 2: So is Corey Price gonna give you a drive ride home? Or do you need me to swing by the bar?

00:59:03
Speaker 1: What's up, Corey? Did you come and take me home? Is that why you're here? He says he can. Okay, well good it's Corey me or the cleaning lady down there.

00:59:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, well just let me know if you need anybody. But good way to end it.

00:59:16
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you everybody, Billy. Great job is our sounding in the are and thanks for correcting that problem with the film. Mike. Listen, folks, four games left, it's still our team. This is still our team. He is still our coach. Let's try to let's try to. Let's try to bond together here, bond that let's bond that bridge, so to speak, and try to get a couple of wins in FORO this seasons over all, right, let's just try to do that. We're gonna wrap it up local Tori's case, our postgame show, for Ryan, for Billy, for Corey Price, who's here to take me home? For all of you that called in the night, God bless you. Thinks are gonna get better? Surely the goodness they win an SEC home game next year.

01:00:00
Speaker 2: There's always next year.

01:00:01
Speaker 1: It's always next year. Get out of everybody,