Hannah G. & Dylan on Peter’s Drama, Their Picks, and Wedding Plans

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Bachelor Nation or good afternoon, depending on wherever you are listening to us, but wherever you are, welcome to Bachelor Happy our podcast. We are so happy to have you here. Thanks for coming back. If you're a first timer, welcome. We will not disappoint you. We are serving up all the latest and the greatest in the Bachelor world. Yes, we cannot wait to kick off today's episode because, let's face it, there is a lot that went down. We are loving the season so far. It seems like Pete has quite his handsful with all of these ladies right now. So I think, Rache, we should just jump right in and get it started. Okay, let's jump in with this. I don't know how you fill Becca, but after watching I just needed to sit back, meditate, kind of detalks from all the drama and energy that I just watched. It was a lot. It was a lot. Yes, I actually had to find myself taking breaks and just pausing because you know, yes, it's a TV show, we know what we're getting into. But there is just such an abundance of drama. And I feel like I say this every week, but it's getting to the point now where this drama and not even drama between necessarily all of the girls, but just internally with how these girls are with Peter is just so much for me. Yeah, no, it's a lot. And I thought, oh, you know, maybe with the girls going to a place like Cleveland, that you know, it would be a little bit mellow. How about the girl's reaction when Chris Arison walked in and he's like, you're going to Cleveland, cricket? What is that outside of the States. Maybe I appreciated the fact that they took a moment to just be like what because Okay, So on my season, just to kind of put in my two cents, we one night I told the guys we were going to chunt Virginia, and I felt like we had to reshoot that several times because at first the guys reacted the exact same way. It was just dead silence. They no one got excited, and finally I was like, okay, but there's this, this and this and this is what it's known for. And then finally they got the reaction, which you know, we were all excited at that point. For I would have been the same. I think, you know, I don't really know much about Cleveland after seeing the episode though I'm not gonna lie, it looks like a hidden gem. I feel like it doesn't get enough credit. Spoken like a true Midwesterner. Someone didn't say that, though they It was in one of the girls when they first landed. They were like, Cleveland has the nicest people. The Midwest is wonderful, and I'm like, hell, yeah, girl, it is. We do have the nicest people, So I can appreciate that. I'm not going to knock it. I used to live in the Midwest. I lived Wisconsin for three years. But what I also found funny though, was when you know and you know the Specca from an experience as a lead, you always get these tidbits about the place that you're going to, you know, so you can hype up the girls or the guys about where you're going. So I thought it was so interesting that they show Peter slow Mo moving up with his fist in the air and saying, this is where Superman's from. I'm like, I'm sorry, can we not say Lebron James Um maybe a little a little Baker Mayfield Drew carry Cleveland rocks. That's that's what should have been like a like a flash mob, a flash that's what I was hoping for. Yes, there's so many other things. Speaking of other things, though, speaking of other things, we've got to get into this one on one date. I mean, Becca, I have to know your thoughts. So we see Victoria f she gets a one on one, she's excited. We see that she and Peter fly around, So that's kind of telling we're gonna see Peter flying a lot this season. We get it. How does he does he need a special license to fly different planes? Or if you're a pilot, can you just is it a free for all? That's what I was wondering because we've seen him now in so many different types of planes. Then I'm like, how the heck is this guy just like allowed to fly all this? Yeah, I mean I I don't know the answer to that. So maybe one of our listeners can ride in and let us know. But yeah, I know, you're definitely right. That's actually a really good question. I have no idea because what if you get into plane and you're like, oh shit, I don't know if these are the right buttons, but I'm just gonna try and go for it. Okay, yeah, says no pilot. Ever, Yeah, I'd like if I was a Victorian that happened, I'd be like, but bye, yeah, no, absolutely not. So we see them fly around looking over Cleveland, taking in the sides, and then they pass over an amusement park. See to point, I've never been, Have you been? I have not. I've never been to Cleveland. No, I haven't either, But I actually do. Hear it's great at certain times of the year. But the whole park is closed down for them. That's pretty cool. And do you think that she was excited about the date or not. Was she like, oh God, please don't please. I hope I don't get the Cleveland one on one. I did that when we went to Wisconsin. I was like, please don't let me get the Wisconsin. Yeah, I lived here, you know, Victoria. There's something about her, And you know, I gotta preface this for all of the listeners. I've never met the girl. I don't know her. There's just something about her that rubs me the wrong way. And I think it's the fact I was trying to think about this last night. I think it's the fact that she just like, even with herself, seems very exhausting. I mean, just the reactions, the way that she prefaces things. Just seems like it'd be a lot to handle in a relationship, not someone who I could necessarily have an a partner. Obviously, we know what happens at the end of the date. So I feel like they were kind of leading up the entire date to showcase the drama that was about to go down. Yeah, so let's get into the drama that's about to go down. So she walks up. She starts to recognize the tune before she actually sees the artist slash her ex boyfriend. And I was so shocked that she was singing all the lyrics. I was too, I said, girl, you gotta play it better than that. No. If I would have been her and have seen my X up on stage and known that, like, oh my god, I have this intimate one on one concert with my ex staring at me, singing the song that he has probably sing for me in the past, I well, I also have no poker face. I would have said something right then and there. I've been like, this is weird, this is my ex. I don't want to do this, Like, let's go have our moment away from all the craziness. I would not have started singing the lyrics that's just for me. It's like, this is your ex. He probably has sang this to you on the couch before. He might have wrote this song about you. We don't know. It just it just didn't match up. She's saying how much she hates it and it sucks. But then it's like, but you're singing the entire song, dance and do it. It's I mean, I get being in the moment. You don't want to ruin that moment for Peter because he doesn't know. But I definitely wouldn't have been singing along because poor poor Peter. Yeah, he's pretty things well, you know all the lyrics. He's like, yeah, dude, he's singing to me all the time. You know, it's so sad. It's just strange. Well, and what I was thinking is usually when they have these singers on the show, for the most part, they're up and coming, and a lot of it's like new songs that you haven't heard before, at least like for the couple of performers that we had on my season besides Betty who who's still sing new songs, like most of them were unreleased tracks are just like just coming out, and so I was wondering, like, is it I don't I don't listen to country music, so anyone out there please let me know. I don't know if this is a song that's been out there for a while that she could have known the lyrics too, or if this legit was one of his ones that he may have wrote while they were together and she just knew it because he was practicing. That's what I want to know. Oh, go ahead, I'm sorry. I was gonna say. I want her to be sitting here so I can ask her all the things about this. Well, she did say that that was her ex right before she came on the show, and he didn't want her to go on the show, so she definitely knew the song, probably before anyone else. I mean, Peter wasn't singing along, so I don't know. I didn't see anybody in the audience singing along. And you know from behind the scenes, they've been there hours before singing that song, you know, probably ten times before the couple actually gets there. But what I found most strange was that she Peter and Chase or talking without her. I know, with Betty, it was different for you because you're you're a major fan and so like y'all got to have that moment. But when Russell Dickerson performed for me, I never really talked to him. Oh no, I know for a fact, I didn't talk to him on camera, so there was no camera there. So we're watching this all play it on camera, and then Victoria goes and pull him to the side. What purpose did you have for doing that? Other than saying, did you know? It doesn't even matter if you're over Chase and the relationship has ended, you have no more feelings, You don't care what he thinks. You gotta immediately give your time and attention to Peter. Yeah, why would you do that? Nothing came about that conversation other than her saying did you know? Well, And that's why if I was Peter, if I would have been in his shoes, I would have thought that was very strange to have my date go and pull this country singer aside, because that that just doesn't happen. Usually. You're like, if you're on a date with someone, you're coupled up. You're with them, like for the ones, like I had a couple of country singers on mine. I was with both of my guys talking to the singer briefly, you know, for a handful of minutes, not very long, but we were always together. So I would have thought that very odd that that my date would have pulled the performer aside, Yeah, you don't owe him anything. And I kept thinking what if Peter walked around the corner and saw you talking to him? And then I also kept thinking boa her bio was correct. In her bio, she said something along the lines of she'll travel anywhere for an artist or for country music or something like that, and so I thought, okay, chases her ex. This is fitting starting to make sense. Yes, that's traveling pay off? Did it not? Right? It just I you know, and for me personally, this is this is me. I am all about honesty, even to the point where even if it's awkward and make someone uncomfortable, like, just be honest. And so if I were in her shoes, I would have still talked to Chase, because at that point, hopefully it's over with, she doesn't have feelings, It doesn't have to be as awkward as it is. Just have a conversation with all three of you and be like, oh yeah, like this is kind of weird, Like we used to date whatever, But good job up there, like just keep a chort and sweet if it doesn't need to be a thing, which obviously that's why I'm kind of questioning, well, how long ago did you guys actually break up and are the feelings totally gone or are you just on the show to kind of like boost yourself that I had all these questions running through my head last night. Yeah, and so here's a question I had, And so I'm curious as your take on this. How did you feel about her reaction at the nighttime portion when she admits to Peter, which I'm glad she did, but she admits to Peter that she dated Chase before the show. What was your take of her reaction? I thought it was strange. I thought it was odd because again, like I was just saying, if things had ended and you were over it, you know, and we've seen seasons past people not disclosing that they had a relationship up until that point, and so it was weird because if you guys had broken up and you were over it and ready to go on the show, then why does it Why are you crying? Why are you so scared to tell him if it's done, it's done? And just confront it and tell him and let it be over with. But she was going on and on about how scared she was and she was afraid he was going to be mad and upset and the relationship. But like, if the really everyone has past relationships, it's you know, everyone has had that X And so if it's truly over and she's moved on, it doesn't need to be this big of a deal. It just the words, you know, for her to be on the show and trying to date this other guy, it wasn't adding up for me exactly, Becca, I have the same thoughts. I thought she made a bigger deal of it with her tears and walking away. If you're over it, then you're very matter of fact. Look, this is in the past. It happened, it was awkward. Let's as Peter did, let's just laugh about how weird, as he kept saying this situation is. And I was like, is she really crying in a corner with her nose in a corner like she was in time out? To me, it was very indicative of how Victoria f handles conflict and difficult situations. She handles them like a toddler. Yeah, well, and That's what I'm kind of saying, where she just seems exhausting in a sense of her reactions to different situations now that we've seen are just it's over the top, it's dramatic. It's just more than it needs to be, I think. And if you're saying you're over this guy and the relationship was in the past, and yes you dated and it's weird to be seeing him, I understand that. But then to walk away from your date and cry and make a bigger scene out of it, in Peter's eyes, that would only make me question it more. And look, like I've talked about this on our podcast previously too, like I understand having X to show up and having it be strange. They flew my X to Peru nine hours and then took him on a six hour bus ride to show up at my hotel. That wasn't fun. That I did not appreciate that. I did not want that confrontation, you know, but in that sense, like I didn't, it was. It was a big deal because at that point I had already had my overnight with Ari, I had already told him that I loved him, and I was afraid that I didn't want him to question where I was in my feelings for this X and I was completely over it. I had been done, the relationship had been over for a while, and of course, yes I was still on edge, like, okay, I of course have to go talk to Ri about this now because it's just strange and there's this elephant in the room. But I didn't like. I feel like the way I handled it was pretty matter of fact, like there wasn't a ton of tears. It wasn't over the top where I was like, yeah, this happened, it sucked. I didn't appreciate it. I didn't want him to be here. I didn't want him to have to have this stupid conversation on TV for whatever reason he wanted to. But it's done. Like, I didn't want him to question it, but that was it. And so if she's saying these words and it has to be adding up into me, it's just not Becca. The difference between you and her is maturity, point blank period. Because you're right, you handled that situation exactly how someone handles it when they're over a situation. Okay, moving on, I'm continuing on the episode of Poor Peter. We had the group date which was a football game, which as a football fan, I thought it was kind of cool. Not a Cleveland Browns fan, but the fact that the girls got to play at First Energy Stadium, which is the home of the Cleveland Browns, was pretty cool. But they had this group date the Lank football which is exciting and scary at the same time. I don't know how much I would want to have that date, but maybe I would have played it like Victoria Pe who purposely set out the game because I'm sorry, that's my opinion. Let me take the word purposely out. She sat out of the game because she has back problems, and I don't did I miss something, Becca? Is this a chronic back issue or did this develop on the show? Well, that's what I was wondering. I think the only thing I could think of when her back injury happened is remember the first group date where they were in the airplane simulator that the thing that was spitting them up and down that she got sick on. Did that hurt her back? Is that what it was from? I have no idea this so this was new to me. I don't know. Victoria Pee, if you're out there listening, please dm us and let us know because I want to. She'll say that's where it happened, or she'll say it's chronic. I think that it was a strategy, and it was a strategy that worked. You don't have the bruises, you don't have to go out there and sacrifice your body. Yeah, she had a massage from Peter. I mean, hey, her hair wasn't messed up, her makeup wasn't smeared. I mean she didn't look like the other girls did after the game. Either way it goes, she won, right, It didn't matter what team that she was on. So I definitely think that she did it on purpose. And I thought it was cool that they had the local football legends hosting it with them, because at first I was like, who is that? Who is that? It was Josh Cribbs and hand for Dixon. For anyone out there wondering, they weren't just two random people. Those were football legends. So what did you think about the game? Though? I really love what you laugh. I want a gift made of McKenna trying to catch the ball because I am McKenna. Let me just say I'm not making fun of her in any way, shape or form, because if I was on this date, I would be McKenna. I am not athletic whatsoever. My hand eye coordination just is not there. Garrett makes fun of me so often, and so I wait, Becca, there is a meme, the mean Girls meme when she's standing there trying to catch the ball and it hits her chest. There's totally a meme of this. Oh, like the like the Karen and My Girl art. Yeah, she's like, I got it, I got it, I got it, and the ball bounces off and chose in. That isn't too a t um no. So that just like God bless mean Kenned. Because but I do say she did try because she didn't catch and she's like, I want to do it again. Shoot it to me again. And so I'm like, you know, this girl's putting it all out there. She knows football is not her strength, but she's just making the most of it. Also, I would like to say a touchdown to six points. So I don't know why we kept giving them seven points, but that's okay. But them the tie that happened at the end. I don't want to get too detailed into this, but if you saw next season, we did a volleyball game, and they ended up where they made a fair to where both teams ended up coming and I was livid because my team actually won at least this was a tie, so it made sense. But you really do like and these girls really put their all into it, you know, they their bodies, they were sacrificing everything, and the fact that it's settled on a tie is kind of hurtful because you're fighting for something here. It's a competition that you're not trying. It's not trying to be even killed. So I did feel sorry for the girls because I know that they were really fighting for that extra time. And if I had known that it was going to end in the tie, then I wouldn't have tried. Yeah, hands well, and that's you. So you had it on Nick season where the volleyball game, both both teams ended up going to the cocktail party. That's like on our season, we had a bowling date and my team won and he ended up bringing the other group on to the after party two and I was like, okay, whatever, I kind of expected it, but that was that was actually the part and our season where Crystal had her moment where she kind of freaked out and was like, well, why did we play so hard? He lied? He went back on his word thing. It's like the show just has to either say Okay, if you guys win, you win, and only half of you come this whole like oh last minute, just Katy and everyone's gonna come. Then just do that in the first place. Yep, Nope. I felt Chris was on that season. I was like, I understand Crystal's anger at this point. That was me that God, it just wasn't shown on camera. Yeah, okay, So the real drama you would think would have happened on the football field, right with girls tackling each other, which I was shocked about. The tackle, tackling each other, running over each other, bumps, bruises. But the real bruises came at the nighttime portion when Aleia herself waltz is back into the group date and doesn't even acknowledge or sit with the girls, walk straight back into the room and interrupts poor she Anne, who has been crying about the attention she hasn't been getting. And remember she wanted to g Peter first, and then was it Victoria? I can't remember someone else? Yeah, yeah, she grabs him first and then she gets interrupted by a girl who's been kicked off the show. I mean, she Anne just can't catch a break. No, she can't. Well, and that's the thing. All of the girls are sitting down at first, and the drama is why are we all here? Like she Anne had four touchsdowns, she should be the first one, Like you think that's where the drama is gonna lie, and that is not the case. It is then with a Leia and Um, I would have been if I was the girls on the couch, I would have been like, you've got to be kidding me. My first initial question though, was did Peter want to bring her back? Was this his request or was this producer's been like, hey, walk up on in there. That's what I would have first wanted to know. Well, I thought so until I saw Peter's face and he was like whoa, whoa ask for this? Well, and that's the thing, like, if he didn't ask for that, then that really sucks. It's like poor Peter. And then but his face says it all. And I just in that moment, I was drinking wine laughing, so maybe that's the worst reaction, but I was like, oh my god, his face just was priceless. Poor Peter, I know, he was like again this like I can't catch a break. So who do you believe in this? Do you believe Alia? Do you believe Victoria Pee Well? And so last week I was saying I was kind of leaning towards believing in Victoria pe because, I mean, she told Peter, yes, we knew each other, not very well. And then you see the flip side where La is like we're friends, Like I told her not to say it because I didn't want to be disqualified. So at that point I was leaning towards Victoria p. But the interaction between her and Alia don't add up. Alia is saying one thing, Victoria pa of course, is saying another. But then when Peter goes and brings Victoria p back in the room with Alaia and they have this like she goes up straight for the hook like right away, and if this is someone that you're not very close with, that that was off to me. It's like this awkwardly long hug. And then they sit down and Victoria Pea is then fixing her makeup and rubbing her arm and wiping her tears, and I'm like, again, like what you're saying doesn't make sense to what you're showing in this moment, and so then I start to maybe believe a lad like maybe they didn't know each other much more than she's letting on it. Just it was off. It was very a very strange scenario to be watching, and Peter just kind of sat back, and I think Peter's like, what, I'm just gonna let these girls kind of have at it because he needs to figure it out. But I think for both of the girls, something's not adding up on either end, And at that point, I'm just kind of now I'm over it, and I would just be like, look like, I know that Peter's really into Victoria Pea, but there comes a moment in time where you still have other girls that are genuinely there for you and honest, and it's just like cut cut the fat if you will. At some point. Okay, yeah, Becca, I comepletely agree with you when it comes to the Victoria La situation, because I also believed Victoria pe over Alaya because I just didn't see the motive or the need for her to actually lie about it. But then I heard Aliah and I like immediately started typing down notes because I was like, Okay, I know this is the lawyer in me. But immediately I was like, all right, let's let's compare things factually, and what Victoria Peace said doesn't line up. It made absolutely no sense. And particularly was the fact that when Peter confronted her, she couldn't defend herself. She kept saying, I have so much to say, and she didn't say shit. All she did was cry and she just kept saying, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Now, Remember Victoria said she only knew Alaia for three hours, and that she alluded that Alia was there for the wrong reasons, like she wanted to fame. So to find out that, Victoria, you don't just travel with anybody. And the fat that they've gone to Vegas together says a lot. And that's not even doing a deep dive. I'm sure they've communicated with each other on social media, liked comments exactly. Yeah, So that to me is enough. If I'm Peter, I've had enough. And so this is when I'm just like Peter, You've got to make the tough decisions. Victoria p flat out lied to you. Unless we just aren't seeing something, And as I say, we do this podcast based on what we see. I'm not going to assume anything. Victoria pe lied to you, and she lied to you, and she knew exactly what she was doing when she said it about a laya, and the fact that they were friends and she betrayed her should have been enough for Peter to say, you know what, Victoria, you have to go. So I don't understand why he continues to believe her and says he trust her when she flat out lied to you, right, And then the fact that she came in there, like you said, and was wiping her tears and giving her a hug, I would have swatted the shit out of her hand. If I was a laya, I would have been like, you don't get to throw me under the bus, drive the bus over me, and then try to take me to the hospital and that same damn bus. That's not how this works. Yeah, And I think Peter was hoping to have that conversation with the three of them, as awkward as it is, to get some clarity. And I think actions speak louder than words. And in that moment, if I was Peter watching this interaction between the two and hearing what they had both said, in the past, I'd be like, something isn't lining up here, and both of these girls are now causing me like more not necessarily pain, but more like heartache than it's worth. Yeah, it's like did you I'm sorry, and I'm going to reference Hannah season. But when people show you who they are, believe them. So just like in Hannah situation when Jed told her that he was there for the music, believe what he said, this is exactly what is happening with Victoria and Alaiah. You know flat out that she's a liar. At this point, you need to believe in that because you don't really know her all that well. Like people can put on a facade the first time you meet them or on a date, but now you know things about her that have happened and transpired in front of you. I just don't understand it. 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I thought, WHOA, okay, and then I thought, okay, she must be going home. Maybe she's getting a stake because she's going home. And that's what I thought, because you know, in rich times here you can attest to this. But throughout this season, you of course have your guys that you are really into, that you like that you want to spend those one on one times with, But then you have some that you're not necessarily sure if it's there, and you want to use that time to see, and I honestly thought that he chose Kelsey to be like, Okay, I might have reached the end of the road with her. I just I'm going to use this time to see and then at the end it's going to be a way to maybe not give her a roast tonight. That's what I went into this state assuming, Yeah, I will say she did. Maybe, you know, he was giving her for the benefit of the doubt. He has a very positive person. He said, maybe that just wasn't the right environment for her. Let me get to know her one on one. Obviously, in this date, she was a complete one eighty from Champagne Gate, and she was engaging. I was actually impressed with her response about a Leia coming back. I thought that that was so well said. And you know, then Peter described her as down to earth and drama free, and I thought, my god, Peter is the king of short term memory. First, he can't remember that Victoria pe lied to him. Now he can't remember all the drama caused by Kelsey with Champagne Gate, So I I don't know, but I did appreciate Kelsey opening up. It was heartbreaking to hear about her story, and I thought Peter handled it well. You know, it's hard when you come from a two parent home, your parents are still together, and then you hear somebody tell their story and you realize, gosh, things could just be so different. So I was really sad to hear that for Kelsey. Yeah, we're starting to see new sides to her. I think kind of how I was thinking now my mind yesterday is that it's she's kind of like an union and we're finally peeling back the layers. You know, she is one of more of the emotional girls in the house. Like even when she got the one on one date, you saw her tear up and cry, and I think that's just who she is. But now it's starting to make sense of why she reacts in certain ways. I think a little bit more because of how she opened up. Yeah, yeah, no for sure, And we see her get the rose at the end of the date and rightfully so, I mean after that date, she deserved it. But I mean I don't know about you, Becca. I again, I've already said it all reading on the podcast today. When people show you who they are, believe them. We've seen Kelly, We've seen one side of Kelsey. Now we've seen another and she was saved from that environment when she was on that one on one, But she's got to go right back into it final thoughts real quick. Want to know you're taken, whose side you're on when it comes to the Alaya versus Victoria another Victoria, Victoria f about the private information that she shared with the other girls in the house. Well, Victoria is I think that was crappy of Alaia to do. That was Victoria's story to tell. I don't think anyone needs to be telling anyone other anyone else stories, especially Alia coming back knowing that the girls don't have their phones, that they don't have contact at the outside world, and then to come back and share all these like little insider tidbits of her time away really sucks. And I can say that because on Ari season mckel she left for a week because her grandfather and I believe it was her grandfather unfortunately passed away. But she had her phone and came back and was sharing all this stuff of like what people were saying about the other girls, which really gets in people's heads. And so I think that that was not for her to share. She shouldn't have brought any of it up to anyone else, and you know, she didn't know if Victoria had already told Peter. So that was kind of a crappy situation. I think at this point, like, I don't the Victoria's are having issues, Ala is having issues, and Peter just needs to get to the bottom of all of this. BS. Yes, I will just say that I we saw the moment where Alia communicated to I think it was McKenna and Hannah Anne that about the Victoria f situation with Chase, and you could tell that she was just kind of saying it. She assumed that everyone knew, and I could see that that was a mistake. And I think that it was McKenna and Hannah Anne that probably told other people in the house. And so I totally could see how she slipped up and was like, oh, I just assume everybody knew because it's already happened. She had no idea they didn't know, So I could I can see both sides on that one. So when she said it, when Alia said that to Hannah Anna McKenna in private, like she had just gotten back, you know, she already knew she was going to be in like the lions Den with all these women and getting the Rows for a date that she's not even on after being sent home. There should not have been any other girl's names in her mouth. She shouldn't have even rivled that off at that point. I don't know. I yeah, I'm kind of torn on that one. Not that I want to be the one who takes up for Laia, but I could see how that mistake could be made. I don't know, agree to disagree. But we end this episode with Peters at the Row ceremony and he's confused about Victoria p and Leia both telling different versions. I mean, I don't know what Peter is going to decide, but to me, I think it's very obvious that there's their lies and some truths on both parts, and for me, I would have to send both of them home. Time is just too precious. You don't have time for little lies or whatever it may be. When if you're going to question both of these girls at this point, you're gonna go throughout the rest of the relationship probably questioning them, And so it's better to just be done and spend time with the girls who are actually there, who have not lied to you at this point. Yeah, the poor poor Peter. I will say that this season is a shit show. I was proud of DeAndre Natasha for standing up and saying something. They scanned the rest of the room. Nobody had anything else to say. I just it's just frustrating as a viewer and as somebody who's been through this experience, Like I can't name the next batcherette, I can't name who Peter should just be with. It's just like the same shit, different day with these women. So to be continued. We're four weeks in and we're still iffy about most of these relationships and women. So okay, guys, coming up, we have Hannah and Dylan in the studio, so stay tuned. Can't wait to chat with them. What's up, everybody. We are back and we have some very special guests in the studio with us today. Now I'm not there and I'm actually having serious fomo at the time because I've never met these two before, but they come with glowing recommendations. I've heard amazing things about the both of them. Let's give a warm welcome to Hannah Gee and Dylan in the Bachelor Happy Hour Podcast studio today. Hi, We're so excited to be here. Rachel, I'm going to play at your sentiments because this is also well. I've met you guys before at the wedding in Mexico, but I have been together. We did take shots together. I don't know if there's very much alcohol, but we've been getting so many your requests to have you. I've been wanting to sit down with both of you and see you together after the lovely engagement. And I also have been dying to see Hannah's ring. So you guys, it is beautiful over here, but we cannot wait you get down and dirty with you and get some life future plans talking. Yeah, Dylan, you already out of Becca and said y'all took shots together, so I want you to keep that same energy for the podcast. All right, Like, let's just keep spilling wine shots. Maybe no, listen, I can do that all day. Yeah, I like, she tugs on my arm and I have to stop. Not today. You're in a safe space, Dylan today, so it just feel comfortable and feel free to say anything that you want. This is your first time on the podcast. Are y'all scared or you're nervous? Uh No, I love talking to new people and we're just excited. We woke up really like, oh weak today, we slept great, so super stoked. I thought you were in the end that I love talking, and I was gonna say you are a woman after my own heart, because I'm the same way. I do love talking. Okay, Hannah, then I'm going to start there because we didn't see you talk a lot on Bachelor, on Bachelor in Paradise, and so I feel like this is great because I want to hear that, and I'm sure our listeners do too, you know. I hear so like how fun you are, and everyone's like, she's so great, but we don't get to see that on TV. What do you think is up with that? You know, I don't know. It's funny. I was saying the other day I came off the show, and I thought I was going to be like a like kind of like quirky, which the other day I wrote quirky When I was answering this question, I totally murdered the spelling, per usual. But you know, I thought it was going to be like kind of the wild, like goofy one, and I came off and I was like, oh, maybe I'm like painted as the shyish one. Which maybe I'm a little timid sometimes, but I don't know. We'll see, we'll see how today goes, like you know, well, and maybe playing into paradise. I mean, you guys coupled up pretty early on. Of course, there was some drama in the beginning with some other fellas, but after a while, once you guys were in your zone and just doing your thing and enjoying it. I think away from the cameras. That's probably why we didn't see so much, because you guys were happy and falling in love and not part of the drama at that point. So I understand that. Edit quote unquote, um, but yeah, I'm excited to chat with you guys more. I do want to maybe hear you rap later. Oh gosh, I don't even know if that exists anymore, but I'll give it a shot, Hannah. It has to if I think Instagram bio right. Oh yeah, yeah, I messed myself up with that. So all freestaw with you, Hannah, if you if you want to restaw, I would definitely like a buddy, So let's do it. I'll drop a for you, perfect, Okay. I mean I was just gonna say, let's just get both of you guys talking in your opinions about this season, because I'm curious as to what you think, and I want to just start off the top with you guys know people on this season that Becca and I really don't. You know, we've met Peter before, but we don't know the girls. But Hannah, you know Hannah, Anne and Dylan you're close with Peter. So just off the top, what's your take of this season? Yeah, I think these girls are kind of bulldozing over Pete right now, at least from the first few episodes. Check on of feel bad. But I think he'll figure it out. I'll get comfortable. It's got to be like super nerve wracking for him being in that position. And I think everybody assumes the lead is like calm, collected, but it's just as new to them as it is to the contestants, essentially just from the other side. So I think Peat's gonna kind of get his bearings a little bit, get his feet under him. But man, I mean, these girls are ruthless to each other. They are. I want to know, when you sit back and watch week by week, are you texting him? Are you sit on the coach texting him? And like, Pete, why did you say this or why did you do that? Or why did you let her act this way? I would be texting my friend, I think constantly and just like ripping my hair out. I'll text Pete, but I usually just tweet about it, and I think he sees it there. Yeah, but it's just he's just like, yeah, it's a wild one like me. Him and Tyler went to the Rams game and we're He was just like, you, guys, is insane? See in like just telling us about that. No spoilers, of course, but no, it's it's fun to watch. I think it's it's exciting. It obviously looks like it's gonna be an insane ending, as we saw from the preview. So yeah, yeah. We sat down with Peter week one, you know, after his premiere, and he made a comment to Rachel Night at that point and he said, I just could not catch a break, Like week after week, there was always something to deal with. He felt like he could never just breathe. And I think fully enjoy just the moment with the ladies and I I mean, watching it back now, we're what in week four, and I agree, and I have a feeling that it's just going to become even more prevalent as it goes on and harder for him. So I think as you as you watch, if you have any maybe to some kind words for him throughout the season, because he's gonna need probably a pick me up after watching all the drama unfold. But did you have that when you relate? Did you have any moments where it was like, Okay, there's no drama at all going on there of you guys, you know from me, I mean, of course there's going to be drama. Yes, it's a TV show. On my end, though I had my guys that I knew I was pretty much set with that I knew would be at the end, that I had those feelings for. And I think I lucked out because the guys that did bring the drama and that were kind of going at it in the house for the most part, that was kept away for me. That was between the dudes, and then I could interact with my guys and focus on them. There of course were moments where I was like, this, this drama is bullshit. It has to stop. It's too much. But I compared to Peter, I feel like I really had the good hand in removing myself a little bit. Yeah, I would say by mid season, after the two on one, my drama stopped. But I think what's different is my drama was between the same two people as opposed to Peter season, the drama is just everywhere and it's running rapid in the house, and I think that's what's so hard to watch. I mean, like good to watch, but hard to watch if you were a part of this season. I can only imagine, speaking of people that are a part of this season, Hannah Gee, what do you want people to call you Hannah Gee? Or are you sick of it? You know, last year I was all about the Hannah Gee thing and stuff, But like, you know, I feel like I've been called Hannah my whole life, so I'm good with Hannah, but like I'm not on the show anymore or anything like that, so I feel like Hannah Gie's kind of like but also like I guess that's what people assume, like, you know, they associate me is being Handah geez. So whatever. We do have a Hannah Anne on the season, which I do know her, and I thought she was going to be Hannah Sum but you know, some people called her Hannah Anne, which is her middle name Anne or her second part of her name or whatever. And so I was surprised that, you know, she's going by Hannah, and so Hannah is that what she goes by usually back home? Um? I feel like the first week I ever met her, I was calling her Hannah and then it kept getting mixed up in the studio because we used to model together. And she was like, people actually kind of call me Hannah Anne a lot. And I was like, oh, okay, so perfect. That's that's the question I was going to ask you, so and I'm going to call you Hannah. I want to I want to call people what they want to be called. Um, I would be I would be sick of Hannah gee as well. So Hannah, you're close with Hannah Anne. How close is your friendship? Um? So we used to shoot together. She's super sweet girl. We haven't like gone on vacation together or anything like that. UM, but I definitely like am supporting her and I know she is really excited about or was very excited about it being Peter before she went on the show. UM. But yeah, I mean I thought, you know, honestly, watching the first episode, I was like, whoa, okay, Hannah Anna, I see you. But you know she's she's taking advantage of her time and everything. But I thought she would be somebody who would be more timid, especially in the first night, but she was like, I'm going for it, and hey, go for it. Did you give her advice before the show? I feel like it was simple advice, like don't hold back and you know, when you're in like all the interviews and stuff, don't feel don't constantly question what you're going to say because you know you want it to be a genuine situation. Like if this is how you feel, let's talk about it. If it's not how you feel, like, you don't have to alter it. I feel like, I mean, there's times where it's appropriate to possibly alter it, but for the most part, like if you are signing up for this, sign up for the whole thing, like feel it and it's okay to have feelings and things like that, and so it was very simple, simplified version of advice for it. I think people that have friends on the season's before come in with an advantage. You know you look at I mean, the first example that comes up is t and Raven, Like you usually see those people go far, and I think because they do get some type of advice before. I mean, if my friend was going on the show, I would totally give her a roadmap on how to succeed in the show, starting with the fact that she's not Hannah S and she's Hannah Ann, so she doesn't have an initial after her name. She's branding herself in the proper way. I feel like I went into well being one of many girls on our season. I went in pretty blind, and I had watched the show for some seasons, and I kind of knew what to expect, you know, through watching it, but there's so much more behind the scenes, like little things, daily things living with thirty other women. Was it ever advice like Okay, in this situation, kind of remove yourself from the drama, or don't don't talk about the other girls anything like that. I really tried to give a fair amount of advice. I didn't want to just like give her all these like you know, secrets and tips and side and stuff like that. I wanted her to be able to experience it for herself, your things out for herself, which is what I did. But I also was like, okay, like you know it's okay to feel things and like, you know, make sure you bring like what was it, like extra sticky boobs or something like that. Like it was like a few random bullets of things that like might help her, or like bringing extra eyelashes, like if you're picky about them, which I think she doesn't even need to wear eyelashes because her eyeballs are perfect. But um, I don't know. It was like small, like random things like bring one pair of black shoes, doesn't matter, you know, Okay, yeah, did you put her up for the show? So you know one of so I had posted a picture with her, and one of the producers actually reached out to me and they're like, oh my gosh, it was this chick. And I was like, you know she it was she was in a relationship. It was like months and months ago, and I went on, you know, I told her. I was like, oh my gosh, it's kind of funny somebody reached out blah blah, and she had a breakup and everything, and then she messaged me She's like this kind of random like I just feel like I'm like wandering around like whatever, like do you think they'd be interested? And I was like, yeah, like, let me connect you. And honestly, I mean she would have gotten on the show regardless of me, but part of me he's like, oh, like I made a connection with them, so I helped get her foot in the door. Yeah, if you will. Okay, Well, so Hannah, we know that you know Hannah Ann Dylan. Of course you know Peter did you? And this is a little bit different because obviously you weren't in the bachelor role, but you of course still were in the mansion living with him. Did you have any advice for him going into being the lead? I think with Pete, he just like I think he just needs to focus on what he wants and that's what I told him, Like when it comes down to it, at the end of the day, this is such like a fleeting moment of our lives. And I think Canna and I talked about it all the time, kind of like being in the public eye. So you want to pick someone or have the ending that you're comfortable with, you know, not for the next month, but for the next like whatever fifty years. So you now, I know it's still early on, but watching the Girls, you can kind of tell, you can kind of tell who he really is starting to have feelings for who he's really gravitating towards. There's a I think Pete does a good job of really engaging with all the women and making them all feel special and important, but he there's definitely something that standout. So are you surprised with the ones he's kind of forming those strong connections with or are you a little bit shocked? Is there anyone that you think, Oh, I thought he would have went for her. I'm not surprised by Hannah Anne. I'm surprised by Victoria Victoria p F. I can see him liking Victoria p two sprize Victoria F. Why Why are you surprised by Victoria F. I think from the preview it looks like she's got two sides to her, but she's showing one side to Pete and then one side to everybody else, so that it's like surprising but not surprising, I guess because you don't see everything as the lead. But I think I think it's gonna come like those girls are definitely gonna go really far. Um whoever, who's the lawyer Kelly Kelly? Yeah, she she's like probably the most mature one in the house. From like an emotional standpoint, I would say, and I think she's a lot different than everybody else. But Pezza also seems to be like pretty into her, So he's got some diverse I guess group of girls. Yeah, well, I was just gonna say, Dylan, you're being very politically correct because you're a little spicy on Twitter when you're commenting and watching the show. Back. Keep somebody, somebody, give somebody, gives Dylan a shot or something to loosen him up. I'm gonna I'm just gonna open up the bottle on one right now. I get she's doing it, I get reprimanded. Give it a shot. Yeah, Like that's why I said, yeah, yeah, okay, So let's let's start with we need to get some wine to get those loose lips going. Let's start with Alaiah slash Eliah, depending on how you see the side of the argument versus Victoria pet who do you believe in this situation. Victoria Pee is the one that she was like, she told me not to say that I knew her, right, Yeah, the one that he went line dancing with. Yeah, we're we're Victoria p fans over here. Um. Why I think she just like seems to be like a genuine person and she's just like kind of focused on Peter. And I think like telling someone telling the producers, like I knew someone on my season and I didn't tell the producers that because I was scared, like I can get in trouble. You're not supposed to talk about going on the show. Like, so I could see kind of that side of it. Yeah, take take a bigger ship right now. We want, we want the Goods to come up, Chuck, but Hannah go ahead. Sorry, Now I was saying, I don't I mean, I mean, I'll just fly out. I don't really like her that much. Um, I think she kind of involved herself in the drama a lot, and I kind of tried to stay away from people like that. And so I don't know, I mean, I think it's unnecessary. It just kind of means like you're not there for the whole point of the show. I felt like it was a little funky. Trust me, I love me some Victoria pe Like for some reason, I'm like, she just seems very sweet and I get it. But when somebody's ah, you know, being kicked while they're down a little bit a leah, which I kind of don't agree with some of her actions either, but like to bring up something that was maybe in between you guys as friends, like, you know, she told me not to tell you blah blah, and I was like, like, I get it, but that's not a really crazy secret. I feel like, oh, she's take advantage of the situation. Yeah, I mean it's a competition. At the end of the day, I just felt like it was a little funky, like I wouldn't I would not have brought that up. I don't think because everything is so hush hush before the show. You're terrified to even tell your cousin, let alone somebody else who's going on the show. So so you're saying in Ali's for a Laia's side, like you you would be like her and just say, you know, let's not talk about it, let's not make this a thing. Let's go in and not like stating that we're friends, that we know each other. Is that I felt like, yeah, maybe she should have, you know, not hid in this little secret or whatever. But at the end the end of the day, it's like it seems like it was just something to pick at her about, Like it was like you and your girl, like, hey, like, maybe we don't mention it whatever, like we can get in trouble. But it seems like a random kind of like I don't know, I feel like they shouldn't have made it a thing. Yeah, so you're a fan of keeping secrets totally. There's something about Victoria Pe that I don't trust. I have said that, Becca, have I not said that. I like, there is something that's all you think that she's gonna crack. That's I think you're waiting for that moment where she kind of Let me toss this question up to both of you in either one of you can answer. Are you sick of the paget girl drama slash narrative? Yes? Yes, And I did pageants and I was ready to get get out of them for that very reason in general. So I mean, it's just let's get a new one in there. Yeah, let's let's get a new like hobby, sport, you know, career. But also it makes great TV. Yes, well, I mean yes, but a new thing go on the show and come back to do what they were doing prior. Yeah. I think when I'm starting to realize the moral of this is less pageant girls and just be honest. I think if Leah were to go everything, you know, kind of bitter in the butt. I think if she went on and was like, yep, we know each other, we did pageants, we went to Vegas together, was it and not try to hide anything, it would have been a different outcome. Or I think she would have stayed around it, maybe a little bit longer. But just be honest people. If you know someone, you know someone, don't lie about it. But if it's not the big of a deal, it doesn't need to be a big deal. Totally. Yeah. Yeah, from what we've seen so far, I have a hard time seeing who the next bachelorette is going to be. And I have a hard time seeing that Peter can actually, you know, kind of sift through all the drama and actually find the diamond in the rough. So my question to either one of you is, do you think that Peter finds love at the end of all of this, like today or at the end of the season. At the end of the season, no, I Villa with the hot take, I mean, it's just can we cuss? Yeah? Yeah, oh yeah, it's a show like this is a shit show. I think it's worse than my season and kind of you know, obviously saw what happened there, but I think, I mean, there's no way, especially watching it back. That's that's something a lot of people who watched the show now they think like, oh, this is like live TV, or it's like a day or two delayed, this is months or whatever prior watching it back. If Peter's with someone has got to be terrible, Like I know, I'm para, yeah, the first few episodes because you didn't want to see Hannah with anyone else. If that part was too hard, Yeah, yeah, right, Yeah. When we sat down Peter at the beginning of this, he said, he's like, yeah, it was hard for me because I felt for a lot of girls. It wasn't just one or two, it was many. And so yeah, to be the final person to kind of watch that back with him, it definitely is not going to be easy. And who knows, you know, at this point, I don't know if he is with anyone, if he's just riding solo enjoy watching the season. But it would be hard, I think because at this point it looks like Peter doesn't necessarily know what he truly wants. Yeah, and that's what I would question. Yeah, and I think like, yeah, Rachel Eu and Becker can probably speak to this more, but as the lead, you probably like you live a lot of the emotions that you have, so like watching backs that's got to be hard on your current relationship too. So I think Paradise is more successful for a reason. I think Bachelor at Bachelor tough to tough to win it out. Really, So you didn't watch Paradise together? Fuck? No, we watched the end together. Watch our proposal? Did you? Did you talk about it though, Like, Hey, okay, I know you're not gonna watch it, but this is what goes down. This is what my conversation. Yeah, we talked about every basically over Yeah, we over communicated about like all of that stuff, and we knew it was in the past and everything, but it's still just kind of like like you know, like when you know millions of people are watching or saying things or commenting things and it's it does you can say just shut it off, it doesn't matter. But when you know it's still out there and people were like judging things or saying things about your relationship, it does get to you and it's like it's a bummer. But we definitely overcommunicated it and I tried to help him through some hard parts. He definitely helped me through some hard parts, and yeah, go team, we made it to the end. You guys. Well yeah, okay, you know. I mean it definitely tests a relationship in a very different way than any normal relationship. And it's when people are watching the show. To them, it's real time. To them, it's like it just happened, and they can't always remember that. Okay, we did film months prior, so you did go through the emotions, you did process all of that. But then when they pull you back in, especially with social media, I think it makes things ten times harder. They pull you back in and there's no getting away from it. You have to do interviews about it, you have to talk to people about it. It's just it is so prevalent. So it makes like the very beginning parts of the relationship difficult. Yeah, and I had never been paid. I guess it wasn't painting as a bad guy the first few weeks, but in a sense I was like, I was like and I had never experienced anything like that, So that was difficult, like just being like wow, people were like saying I might suck or like, you know, my character and all this stuff. I blocked all of these nasty words on my Instagram comments. It was just not fun. So these girls going through it, I fail for them. Yeah, let me ask you this, because when people who aren't affiliated with the show ask me what it's like, you know, they're watching it and it's dramatic, and there's when you watch it back, there's music, and there's all these like awkward pauses and the interviews and there's so much pulled together to make the show what it is. When I was living with the girls or in any of the drama, to me, like at that point, some of it, yes, was a big deal, but a lot of it didn't feel as big as it is portrayed. And so looking back, people are like, oh my god, what just happened last night? That was crazy? And I'm like, it really wasn't that crazy. Like you add in the music and the itms and all this extra noise that makes it seem so much larger than it actually is. And did you guys experience that that aspect? Yes, I mean I just never I'm not like a huge person who acts to like drama happening. I was like they're having a conversation again. Shocker, they've been talking about the past three days. Right, whatever, I'm just gonna go grab a cocktail. So yeah, Dyl and I we would just like not really react when people were like, oh oh my gosh. We were just like, oh wait, that like over there is that happening. And that's why we weren't on TV. And that's and that is why you know, we probably didn't get on a lot. Well, you don't feed the beasts who don't add fuel to the flames, and we get wrapped up and then we'll say this, and even on the Batorette. But in Paradise, I definitely stirred the pot a little bit. Wait in Paradise you start the pot. Yeah, men, like towards the end, like when guys were like super nervous, they were exhausted. You probably no no no no no no no no no, no go ahead, yeah no. I would. It would be like right before the Rose ceremony and I it was Matt, Matt Donald and and Luke Stone. I'll just be saying there like, dude, you guys are so fucked like who are you gonna pick? And then we like go back and forth on here that I'm like, yeah, you could do that, expects this. They're like, okay, so I'll do that. I'm like, dude, so you're just gonna go with what everyone wants you to do, Like that's so fucked up. And that for that went on for probably like two or three hours, and then yeah, because you get bored, I want to see some drama. Dylan will make a good producer and totally no, I think that's great, Dylan, because you guys, it's the way your relationship works is similar to Astrot and Kevin, Like Astrot's my best friend from the show. And the way that you guys move it's or moved during Paradise is kind of like them. Like a should always say we were boring TV because we had found each other, We knew what we had and you just kind of sit back each a popcorn and watch the rest of the drama unfold. What you went through with Paradise is you found each other. You have your person. You don't have to be victim of another Bachelor or bachelorette season, which is great because you see what's happening on this current season. So now you guys are planning a wedding, where are we in the wedding process. So we are in engagement party mode and we're really taking things slow. Um when it comes to the wedding. We don't live together right now, and we definitely want to be able to experience that before we just for us, before we get married or anything, or at least just living in the same city and not living long distance right now. It's not too long, but because it's definitely not in the same city right now. So so for anyone who doesn't know, Hannah is currently living up in la and then Dylan is closer to me in San Diego. Correct, Yeah, y u Hills, so you know, a couple hour drive. How did you guys see each other, um, like week every week, like three or four days. Okay, yeah, oh yeah, that's good. I mean we probably see each other more often than not definitely, which honestly, you see each other more than Brian and I do. Yeah, because I have to travel so much. Yeah, well that's you know what. I'm getting a little salty over here that we haven't grabbed drinks together yet. Let's do. I've messaged you a million times, okay, Dylan, you've messaged me one and on time actually, if we could get drinks and funny comments on your Instagram. You never respond. I never respond to anyone. I'm so bad with social media. I'm terrible. So I'm sorry, but well, I'll just get your numbers. So I did my research for you as coming on the show on Twitter. Yeah, that's why in trouble, Well that's why I was like, what's happening here? You know you you on Twitter? You got a lot to say. So I want to make sure that that is reflected in the when I when you took a shower after each So can we just talk about it? Yeah? Maybe you tweet it, okay, whatever you want me to start eating tweets. I live in a centered centsored household. Well you need to, I don't. So I mean all comment on things that maybe I shouldn't publicly comment on sometimes, which I think is fair, but also be the fact that I should in comment on that means that I should comment on it. So do you do? You go to Hannah and then ask her like, hey, can I say this, or can I write this? Or can I do this? Great point, So what she's referring to is that I didn't do that. I just tweeted it, put my phone out? What he tweeted something? Put his phone down, went and took a long, nice, long steamy shower, used conditioner probably three times, and then he came out and he um was like, so I tweeted right before I went into the shower. I was like, oh, and I checked it, and uh yeah, what tweet was it? We need to know? It was just I think it's just sometimes all common on things that maybe people don't like my comments on. I think that's a very rational freedom of speech. You know what was the tweet? Read it read it loves me? Oh god, he loves He thinks it's hilarious about well, I'll give you an example when Tasia and JPJ well I brought it up on the podcast when they wrote you wrote shocker and nothing else situations. Um, and I asked Tatia about it. What did you think about it? Well? I, well, I didn't like it because I am like big on I'm like, oh, if you say something more, you know, like I am not big on starting a war on Twitter. I am. I am very confrontational, So I'm like, if you have if you want to say something, come say it to me rather than just be subtle about it on Twitter, you know, like everybody knows, but you're not saying type thing. Tai Taia said it hurt her. I think, yeah, she said that she was surprised because she's like, I thought we were all cool. She didn't know where it was coming from. Yeah, no, I I think, yeah, yep, very fair. We've had this discussion a lot, and sometimes we just gotta like think before we speak, and especially when it's I'm a very plated person and if I have an opinion on something, I'm going to let everybody know. So when you've removed the said tweets, is it more so you're doing arcas wants? I have my tweets filtered through probably five or six people. Oh really, so that for some reason. But in person, he's not like lashing out or saying anything crazy. It's just like I'll go on Twitter, I'm like, well, I mean whatever, it doesn't come across one. My sense of humor doesn't come across to a lot of people, especially through like words like text. Yeah, well it's hard to text. But no, I mean I'm definitely opinionated and some people like that and some people don't like that. Well, I'm opinionated too, like extremely in it, and I get it sometimes it's misunderstood, but I don't really tweet like that anymore. Um So, I guess my question would be to you, would if you, for example, with the Tatia and JPJ, if you walked past Tatia at a party and you just found out, which would be like, color me shocked, you didn't shake broke up. I mean, I'd probably asked what happened, But I don't think I would be very like in her face about it. Well, no, I mean I don't think what I said was interface about it either. I think it'd be more interface if I was very specific about what I was talking about. But again, I think there's a lot of things I think. I think there's a lot of things that we know that maybe shouldn't be made like totally agreed, agreed, And I'm sure you're proving a more information when it comes to their relationship and I understand that. But see, like that's what I guess is the difference. I'm opinionated. But if I'm going to say it on Twitter or in a to the media or something to you or to a friend, I'm going to say the same thing to you, Like, I'm not gonna be like, oh in your sense, neither John Paul. But I think they all know kind of my opinions on not just like that situation, but like other situations that also arose from me. I think I feel like we do talk about this a lot though, and you know, he likes to start the pot sometimes on Twitter, but ultimately I think it's in the works, and I feel like you're you know, you're baby stuffs. Well it sounds like you. It sounds like you know now because you have a group of five people that you have to filter everything through, like if it's gonna offend some people or come off across wrong, it's good that you have the group to make case. Should I actually say this, you're cognizant of knowing that it could offend. I'm definitely cognizant of it. But I mean, like, I get terrible things sent to me every single day, But I mean it's kind of it, but you get it. No, oh no, I get how it can be yeah, like hurtful to someone, or I get how it can be perceived as like disrespectful. But I also think that there are like aspects of it to not everybody. This isn't specific to that situation, but there are aspects to a lot of things that people just don't know. And I think a big part that we like talk about is that I don't comment on things. Sorry to cut you off, but I really wanted to put this in. I don't comment on things that I don't have a reason, Okay. But also I feel like before the show, it didn't matter what you put out there. You're like, oh, I have an opinion, Who cares? I think? Now, with you know, a few more eyeballs on you, it, it does make it a thing when sometimes before the show, when you're under a microscope, yeah yeah, sure, or you get in a Twitter war, Like I don't believe in Twitter wars. I don't think I've gotten in Twitter war. Okay, that's great. Yeah, I just don't believe in which may come, which may come to a shock to a lot of people. Watch. There's time, There's definitely time. There's definitely time. I'm not going to Twitter. So I'm not either. I'm not either, honestly, Hannah, I'm not here. Um Okay. So I want to get back on track talking about the Juicy wedding and engagement just because obviously people love love they watch the show for a reason. Um, I know, trust me, I know firsthand how annoying it is to ask Winns the day what what are the wedding plans? Where is it going to be? I mean Gary and I have been engaged, I mean a year and a half now and zero we have nothing, And I'm like, trust me, people, the first time we start thinking about it, you will know. So the engagement party that's in the works, is that something you guys are doing up in La or back in your hometowns. So it's gonna be here in La and it's a surprise. So somebody's throwing it for us. But all we know is the date and then to just like tell our friends and family to show up. Yeah, okay if they can. Yeah, no idea where it is. Yeah, we don't even know exactly where it is, but we know it's around like here somewhere. But I'm excited. I think it'll be fun. That's fun. No, it sounds like fun. Yeah, And I love surprises. Like what are you awesome? What like ideally in your engagement party, what would it incorporate? What would you guys have I think for me, I'm just exting uniforms, definitely. I don't know. I'm just kind of like, I'm excited for all of our friends and family to meet the end of the day. Like a lot of them haven't been able to even meet Dylan. A lot of my family but you know, cousins and things like that, they still haven't been able to meet him. So I think we're just more excited to like get everyone in one little area and have like a fun little party. Yeah. So hey, let me say, I have not had an engagement party yet. So whoever is still in this send it my way because I say, no, we have missed our moment. But but that, yeah, that sounds amazing. I can't wait to see photos. Well have you You guys know Chris and Crystal, because obviously at the wedding. Prior to their wedding, they had this beautiful engagement down near us in San Diego and it was gorgeous and I didn't go. I just had the photos. I'm excited to see yours. It will be I'm sure lovely. Do you know what you're gonna wear yet? No clue, But you know, I feel like, since it's so far away, from like wedding and things like that. I'm thinking about more doing just like I will say, like champagne colored stuff instead of like super white right now, because I'm like and what like this is more of a celebration, like, yeah, we're together and everybody meet and hang out. Um, so they're gonna go like champagneish ivory maybe or am I just switched it up and go like breaking. I don't know, we'll see do it. Well, I'm sure it'll be lovely whatever you decide. Are you inviting Bachelor Nation people to the wedding? To the wedding, I mean it's kind of I's kind of far out, but I mean I'm sure there will be some people who, yeah, who get invited to it, because like some people get invited to the party, but not necessarily the wedding. I know how that goes. So that's why I just went ahead and jump to the wedding. Yeah. No, I mean there's definitely gonna be some people from from Bachelor Nation that get invited to the wedding. Yeah. I don't think it's going to be like a whole entire Bachelor Nation thing, but definitely the people that are close and in our bubble and you know just that care about us and text us and you know, are supportive of us, then yeah, definitely not a free for all. Yeah, good's good for you guys. Keep it small and intimate, small, definitely. Well. One question I wanted to ask you guys is because obviously you each went through your respective seasons through Paradise, and we've seen several love stories come out of Paradise. I didn't always last, but throughout Alive, Bachelor and bachelom Paradise. Have you, guys gotten any advice from other couples who have been through this that have helped you, guys kind of pave your own road out of this, or anyone that you've seen that you really admire that you take bits and pieces from their relationship. Kevin and Astrid talk to us to say, yeah, they like sat us down and talk to us for probably an hour at the wedding, which is really nice, y'all. They are some like real real life humans. Like I was refreshing talking to them, just like you know, they didn't care about all the extra stuff. They're just like talking about relationship and like the realness side of it. And I'm all about a real role conversation. So I don't know. I really feel like we were in a similar situation as they were. So I liked that. I liked them. They are a solid couple. I don't know them all that way, are Rachel? You know moost of our best days. We're going on vacation in like three weeks. Oh no wait where Yeah those that Yeah, they're the realist things. Just seem like they really care about people and like they're genuine happiness. Like I remember when all the drama was going on at the wedding with Blake, like Kevin set him down. I was like, dude, like, your sanity is the number one thing, like, and if this isn't good for you, just get out, like he didn't want to like bullshit and be like, oh this is so fun, Like yeah, stick it out. If you're not happy, you're not happy. So they seem like a good couple, good head on their shoulders. Um, before we let you guys go, we gotta get your predictions for Paradise. Since you're the Paradise experts. Becca and I have never been before, thank goodness, But who do you think so far from this season is going to be great? In Paradise or even will go to Paradise. Yeah, go for it, Sarah see McKenna. M kenna will be amazing for Paradise. I think I think she's like she'll like react and likest. What about Tammy? Tammy? I love Tammy. Anytime she gets on my screen, I get really excited. She's like she's we talked about to say. She's kind of like the Demi of the house, like the wild card, you know, says it like it is yep. Um, I don't know who the top girls are, so that's kind of tricky. Um. If Sidney's not the winner, then totally see Sydney there. She's like real, tells it how it is whatever. So obviously that would be fabulous. I feel like Sidney would be the like the sexy like Baywatch on the beach, like all the guys have their eyes on her. Yeah. An, that's what I'm very any any predictions for for guys, maybe from past I know we haven't had the I think Dustin didn't get enough, get enough love. I've met Dustin. He's fun. Yeah, he's a cool guy. Um, Okay, well that's about if you guys, I'm glad that you know we got you to loosen up, spill some tea. I know how how many times did Hannah tug you in this? And he's definitely staring at me. Okay, will Gus and then I've like tapped his leg, but he did good. I think you did good. Watching the two of you interact is actually really cute. Like at one point you guys high five and it just you guys have a good report. It's it's fun to watch you face to face. Finally, yes, finally, we're very balanced as outspoken, and Hannah's she'll keep you in a good time. Though. Dylan's way more thoughtful than anybody knows, so he's extremely selfless and thoughtful. So very lucky, so great. We're so happy for you guys. Thank you so much for coming into the show, for hanging out with us. We hope you guys come back, and we're really just excited to watch you guys and see what you have coming up. Yay. I hope to meet you face to face sometime. Oh you will, girl. This world is so small, this beast tabulous. It sounds good. Thanks good, thank you, thank you. All right, guys, you know we can't forget to do our new Cats and Rats of the week. So here we go, Rache. All right, this is this is a quick and easy one, and I'm surprised at the answers I'm about to give now, mind you, this is just based off this week's episode. Okay, the cat. It's Kelsey. She shined this week. Sorry, I'm not judging her on anything else she did. I think things will take a turn. But I'm given the cat to Kelsey and everybody else is a rat because I'm just sick of it. It's a house full of rats. I agree with the Kelsey. I also would like to say I thought she am killed it on the football field. She shined, and she did not get nearly enough recognition. So I'm gonna go with Shenne. That's a good one. I like that. And then yeah, I mean rats, it's I'm gonna say Alaiah only because I don't think she should be here right now. Hey fair, that's fair, But la Victoria too, because you know it's tough. Yeah, all right, well, shall we play a game, Becca, We shall? We should. Let's have a little fun because I'm exhausted from talking about everything that's going on. We need to lighten things up. It's been a little bit heavy. Let's have a drama free game. So, okay, this game is called sex move or football play. Now you would think that being a broadcaster in professional football, I would know a thing or two about this, but I think I'm going to embarrass myself when it comes to this. So we're gonna read off names and Becca or I or both will have to guess if it's a sex move or a football play. So you're welcome. This will help you with your football education and your sexual and maybe in the boudoir we'll reach. Since you know much more about football than I do, I want to start with you to see if you know these ones. Okay, okay, So first off, we have the crouching tiger football. No, that one is a sex move. I almost is going to say that, but then for some reason it sounded football. Okay, I get, I get. You know, all of these are going to be a little on the fence. So the splitter football, No, this one is also a sex move. I would I would have said sex move only because now I'm picturing some of this in my mind. And okay, all right, the statue of Liberty football yep, okay, it sounds like a boring sex Do you just stick your hand up in there? Yeah? Okay, total football play, the flea flicker football, yep, that one. I know you know that one fast, That was a good one. Okay, these names, okay, it's okay. Shredding the cheese, I'm gonna say football because I hope that it's football. No, that's so gross, I know, well, that's why I'm reading it. What kind of sex move is shredding the cheese? I'm discussed. I don't want to google these because I really don't want anything on my phone. But I'm just what is shredding? That just one's terrible, That just sounds disgusting. Okay, the coffin corner sex move, No, that one's football. That was gonna say football, dake it football okay, Propeller sex move m. And last but not least, the spin o rama sex move. No, that one's football. Okay. Yeah, maybe I'll google that one later just to see because it's PG. I'm afraid to google any of these at this point. Okay, Now it's your term, all right, all right? First up, the waggle. The waggle, I'm gonna say that's a football move. You are right, Okay, you're already off to a better say one for one. Um, I don't know if I'm pronouncing this right. But the Bama Rooski, I'm gonna oh, you know, that could go either way because there could be a football player out there with the last name of Bama Rooski. But I'm gonna go on the fence and say this one's a sex move. Oh close, football, you almost I thought you're gonna get it. Is this one? Is that someone's last name. I have no idea. I can't imagine it. Coach being like, go get that Bubba Rooski. Yeah, probably saying it wrong, all right. The tighter doggie, I'm gonna say that one's a football sex move. That one's well, I know, the doggie, but the tighter I'm just trying to picture these on the field. Okay, dangn I'm I'm catching up to you. Rage. The captain hook, Oh geez, Louise, that just sounds dangerous in the boudoirs. So I'm gonna say football, it's a sex move, Oh my Lanta. The captain hook? What is the captain hook? That sounds scary like fifty shades of gray? Right now? Hook hook? Hook rufe. Oh okay, no, that's not that's not on the list. Um pooch punt, total sex move. Nooba, it's a football play. What punt? Oh imagine? Now you get out there and you run that pooch punt, and you run it fast and hard. I am never gonna I'm not gonna watch the Super Bowl the same. I'm just saying, can you imagine them being miked up? And that's all you hear? They have to bleep it out, probably because the audience just wouldn't understand. Yeah, mothers would be covering their children's ears. Yes, okay. The next one is the helicopter sex move. Yes, yes, ding ding ding ding ding Fine, redeeming myself right, the ankle breaker anything in football? Yes, okay, that's football. Very good, you're on a roll. Last, but not least, I totally read this wrong in my head, and I'll tell you what I was. But last, but not least, naked bootleg. The naked bootleg. I'm gonna say sex. It's a football play. How is it naked a football play? I don't know, but I first read it as naked booty instead of naked bootleg, and I was that's a football, play no go, get that naked booty? Okay, bog football. So we sucked at this. I hope you have fun. You should play this. This is something you should play at a bachelorette party. So you're welcome and you get an education either way, whether it's in football or it's in sex. Move please google at your own risk. Or played during the super Bowl it's coming up, yes, or or during the super Bowl. Well, thank you guys so much for tuning in. We love every week diving into all things Bachelor with you guys. Thank you so much for listening. Thank you so much for being here. But before we wrap up the show, I just want to say that we want to send our condolences to the family of Tyler G. I was shocked to hear the news. I know you were to Becca, and it's just really sad and so we don't know the details of it, but we just want to acknowledge him his presence. He was Bachelornation family, and we just want to continue to keep his family in thought and prayer and listeners. We'd love to hear from you every week. You can always email us at happy hour at Bachelornation dot com or go to Bachelornation dot com