The One About The Golden Child & The Dream Baby

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Speaker 1: Hello, my loves it is yours. Truly, this is not a pre pre pre pre pre recorded episode. We are alive. I guess beg beg back good again? Yess who's back? Phone a front? I don't think that's the line phone a friend, but we would like to congratulate. Isn't that like on the prices right or something? Who can new phone a friend.

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Speaker 2: Who wants to be a millionaire?

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Speaker 1: Thank you, proser John. I do want to say congratulations to Eminem. He will be a grandpa, the hottest grandpa of all the gramps. So wooooooo. You can't tell, but we're clapping and cheering.

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Speaker 3: That's the only grandpa I would liket get it. Well, I don't know that for sure. I'd let him get it though.

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Speaker 1: I would let them hit for sure. Yeah. Sure, And I wouldn't even care if he never called me again, which he probably wouldn't. But you know who else but nobody? Maybe fifty and doctor Dre. There's a lot of them, actually, never mind, there's a lot of line them up. Who wouldn't I let.

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Speaker 2: Bring them up?

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Speaker 1: Yes, be kind, try not to call your sister a whore on this podcast.

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Speaker 3: I know we're talking about this later, but I think I have to redo my list since the ditty news.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we're talking about it. Maybe so this episode, because I've been out and we haven't talked about a lot lately, We're going to talk about what's been in the news since I've been away. Because I have been appalled, I've been excited. We have a many housewives that have started. I don't know what Bravo was doing. I feel like there was a chunk of time where I'm like, where are the housewives? And now we're back where We've got I think three, three or four housewives running out of time. We've got Dubai, We've got Miami's going to start soon. We've got oh C that's about to wrap up. Fantastic Sea in New York just started, and Saltly just started. So I'm a happy, happy camper. Yeah, and she's looking fine. Oh yeah, is it so a little update? I did get hemorrhoids after birth.

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Speaker 4: No, you did it.

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Speaker 1: I did. I felt a tremendous easton I'm sorry, a tremendous amount of pain in my asshole in hers and I was like, what is this? And my sister in law, who I did fill you guys in on. I do have a sister in law. I have an older brother. He would technically be considered a half I'd never call him a half brother because he's my brother. My mom entered his life when he was two, and so my sister in law, who was in the room, her name is Cheryl, she was like, I think you have hemorrhoids. And I'm like, google it, what are the symptoms of le hemorrhoid And she was like, yours, that's what it is.

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Speaker 3: You told you were proud to You were like, I didn't get hemorrhoids this time.

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Speaker 4: Hemmorhoids.

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Speaker 1: Hemorrhoids. Hate it. I hate it just as much as I hate Millie Waker.

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Speaker 4: You said you didn't get them, and you got them.

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Speaker 1: And I think because I was constipated and trying to not be it had nothing to do with So.

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Speaker 4: I was doing a lot of push thoughts in prayers to you.

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Speaker 1: As I'm still on cloud nine, I will say that no, just from the birth of Sosa Ocean and what a spectacular human she is, She's just I call Ocean my golden child, and I call Sosa my dream baby. Don't come for me. There is no difference. I love them both equally. But there is something about your first born, the baby who made you a mom, watching her, you know, take on this sisterly role. She knows where the burp cloths are. She is just thriving in this position. And she tells me I told her, she's killing it. So now she'll push Sosa. The douna can go down to kind of her level, the push thing, the stroller. But yeah, and she goes, look, Mom, I'm killing it. And I'm like, you are. She's just everything. So I'm super happy. Sosa is the best baby unless she has a dirty diaper, wants the boob, or has a burp. She is chilling. Her eyes are blue. She is the most gorgeous thing. I'm a biased mama. She is a gorgeous, gorgeous baby.

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Speaker 2: She's a pretty girl.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, she is. So thank you guys for setting me so much love and support during like the best time of my life. I was a little nervous. I think I said that I didn't know if I would love her immediately because it wasn't the cookie cutter way of having a baby. Chloe Kardashian, I think, was the first person of that magnetue elevation to say, like, I don't feel the same way about this baby because she It was different, It was not the conventional way, and I found it very impact and empowering to say something like that because it is not something that women talk about. Like I said, the moment she came out, I was thrilled that, like I was in love because I was a little nervous. It was a different pregnancy. I used to sing to ocean in the belly, and the night before I gave birth to Sosa, I kind of like talked to her and sing to her for the first time during my entire pregnancy.

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Speaker 4: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's different, like I hear always hear the second time around is different. Speaking of that, how do you feel now that you're officially back?

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Speaker 1: Qute unquote.

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Speaker 3: I mean you've really been working since probably like a week after Sosa because you're just well, I felt really good. But how do you feel being back officially? Are you sad? Are you excited? We're happy to have you back.

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Speaker 2: Back on the horse.

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Speaker 1: I'm it's mixed feelings. I feel very excited to be back with you guys, and I enjoy working. But I'm funny and I've spoken about this a many time on the pod ever since my dad passed away. I am funny with time. It freaks me out. And I looked at so said today she's officially a month and some change, and I'm like, I it's over, like she's here and I will say her newborn clothing. I was planning on giving it away, but it's gone into storage because.

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Speaker 2: I am not more boxes.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm done.

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Speaker 4: That is wild. That makes me very excited about it.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't make a big to deal though. If I had a third yeah, and like it took and it was you're pregnant and we're good to go, I would not make it some big like posting thing. I think once people start tapping into like three four or five six, it's like enough already.

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Speaker 3: Is there a world in which you're pregnant and nobody knows and then because you wear baggy clothes and then one day it's like, wait, what had a baby?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think it would just be like as simple as I'm clearly a pregnant person, right, and it's great and we're excited, but the whole like, I don't want anyone to find out. I want to announce because that is a lot of fun. And some people are like, who the fuck do you think you are? And I'm like, I'm fucking La La Kent, That's who the fuck I think I am. So of course my children will have bit It'll be a big to do, right, but I am aware that once you start pushing into a lot of children, it's like we got.

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Speaker 2: It, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, not because I would love it any less, but just you know. Anyway, let's move on. Yes, I'm on cloud nine. Let's get the pod a pop in. So first things first, I walked in. Producer John told me, did you hear that the Kansas City chief Wives and Bravo the universes of the NFL and your world Bravo are clytie And I said, oh, well, what do you mean? And he said that Bravo's in talks with Kansas City Chiefs Housewives. Okay, wives of these players are in talks with Bravo about having a reality show.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, that would be so good.

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Speaker 1: I would love it. It would be like the better version of Wags, like they get more than like two seasons, you know, right. I was just thinking it would be just like I did you well, you were one of not money.

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Speaker 4: Not bring it back? Okay. Question the big question.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Brittany is it Mahomes Mahone's Mahomes, I like Mahone's Mahones and Miss Taylor Swift will be home home home home like home free.

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Speaker 4: Like home is where the heart is, okay, or that.

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Speaker 3: I can tell where you just came from all sentimental? Do you think they'll be part of it? Brittany and Taylor?

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Speaker 1: They said no, They said that, what do you mean said to both of them said no. The publication, the publication gods, the writer god.

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes wouldn't lead, is he like?

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Speaker 4: Is that his wife?

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Speaker 1: I think that.

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Speaker 5: They have a vibe that's very A lot of people look, she's very wild and oh she's a wild Oh fun.

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Speaker 3: She sounds like a fun Did you guys not see the clip of her so fun partying during the girl with the drink and then like someone comes to get back there?

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Speaker 4: Who was it? It was like.

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Speaker 5: Remember seeing them courtside she wanted to be It was Brittany and she's with her friend.

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Speaker 4: She has a drink producer John did you see this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: So it was it was Patrick Mahomes's brother, Jackson, who was trying to get ended with her, and you see him talking the security guard and she's dancing with people in the crowd, and then she and then they pushed him away and she kind of looks over and just like goes back to party.

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Speaker 4: She could have went over and.

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Speaker 3: Helped him, and she looks over and she's like and she visibly shrugs and goes back to partying.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, that's my girl. I like her.

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Speaker 1: That is a girl who lives in the moment. Yeah, I can't be bothered. They could literally shove Patrick to the ground right now, maybe even my children, and you're not fucking with my body.

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Speaker 2: Yeah there was.

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Speaker 1: I can dance a whole song and not spill it, Oh little mac dree for you.

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Speaker 5: They were courtside basketball game and it was her and Patrick and Patrick looks and says something, and then you can see what she says.

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Speaker 2: She looks to her friend and she goes, he just said to stop having a resting bitch face.

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Speaker 1: No, never stop it, Brittany, I love a resting bitch face.

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Speaker 6: Isn't there a meme where she's like rolling her eyes and like, I swear I've seen that everywhere She's yeah, exactly what you're doing.

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Speaker 2: That's and there's a screenshot of.

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Speaker 1: Okay officially obsessed with her do it again. I well, she seems like a girl that would go.

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Speaker 2: That's what she did. After she to have a resting bitch face, she.

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Speaker 1: Goes, oh, I thought she was like a little square. Yeah, but I'm off the internet, so I don't I don't know what the fuck is going.

00:10:50
Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask a spicy question that I might get dragged for.

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Speaker 1: But here we go.

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Speaker 3: Do you think before she was friends with Taylor she would have done this show? But because she's I'm not saying it, but I'm just throwing it out there might be a little high on her horse now that she's best friends with Taylor.

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Speaker 4: She's like, I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 1: You know what, even if I love a bitch on a high horse, Okay, I am a bitch on a high horse.

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Speaker 4: Heaby, Hey, hey.

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Speaker 1: No, I love it. Be on your high horse. Your friends with Taylor Swift, you're with like the most famous quarterback on the planet. Be on your high horse. Don't go on a show that could potentially like show the real ill. Yeah, if she doesn't want it, and mahmes, we all have kids, babe, We all have kids. We just don't have as much at stake.

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Speaker 4: You know, No, she is on it, you know what. You're right, it's just.

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Speaker 1: And our children. That's fine.

00:11:43
Speaker 4: Beyond the stallion, you're you be on the freaking stallion.

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Speaker 3: I'm on a donkey, she's I'm over here on a donkey. You guys are stallioning through the streets and I'm trying to keep up on my dog.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I feel like your donkey has the voice of Edie Struck.

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Speaker 4: Donkey. Yeah, what's his name, Donkey?

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Speaker 1: His name is.

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Speaker 6: Donkey.

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Speaker 1: Get it together, because that's why I always say that old day, don't ca that old day something? James so back. I think it was like September twenty seventh, the breakup of T Swift and Travis Kelsey was supposed to come and they were going to separate, and that was the PR plan, and everyone's like, oh my gosh, we knew it was fake. And then there's the other side who's like, keep in mind, I am a huge T. Swift fan, and I think that the PR thing was just like bullshit, right, I'm saying it was leaked that they were going to break up, so.

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Speaker 4: You think, God, it got it got here. That's that's real. You think Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Just so I'm clear, Taylor and Travis's relationship is real and the pr thing is all fake.

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to get married and have babies. You do, they'd have kabies.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, carry very well long.

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Speaker 1: She'd be a lot of a lot of baby. She's got a long tour, so long leg, so I feel like the bump would be very like elongated.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like she'd be like you la, where you turn around and you can't tech.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. She would carry that way. But you know, sometimes there's rounder bumps where it's just like a basketball. Sometimes it's like very outward and this way. You know. I thought, that's what you meant what the shape of her bump will be. I was talking of her.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what I was talking.

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Speaker 1: But you were like, I feel like from behind, I'm like, oh, by the way, favorite most favorite pregnant person on the planet, Kim k. I loved her her feet splooging out of her shoes.

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Speaker 4: Oh iconic.

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Speaker 1: I'm like that that bitch is making a baby, living her best life.

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Speaker 3: To squeezing into those shoes and rocking them.

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Speaker 1: The floral outfit.

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Speaker 3: My feet like, look like that and strappy shoes. Not pregnant, So that's the vibe.

00:13:56
Speaker 1: I love a pregnant woman me too, truly. So we've learned that Diddy is a piece of shit, even more so than we thought six. I love that they're calling him.

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Speaker 3: The he Literally, I've never been more sick to my stomach over the tiktoks and the articles and stuff that I've seen.

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Speaker 4: He's a disgusting violence.

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Speaker 5: Well, now the new thing is it's a conspiracy that it's not even him. If you go look at his mugshop, have you seen that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I feel like if the math is mathing, I can buy into it.

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Speaker 4: So what are they saying?

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Speaker 3: So I know they're saying that Diddy has like someone in jail for him and he's running around the street free.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the new thing.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's saying that everybody has a clone. Chris Brown came out and said he has one.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's just him trying to get the people do Yeah, well, I've just been time.

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Speaker 2: Will tell you know, I'll believe anything.

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Speaker 1: Right now, there's a guy in prison who's like, so I was employed by Diddy and everyone's like, what are you talking. He's like, have you heard of Sean Combs. He's like, so I was there to have sex with Cassie and everyone's like yeah, and everyone's like he's.

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Speaker 5: He's not saying and they and he was like in Diddy would masturbate and while he would tell me what to do to.

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Speaker 1: Cassie, and it's all on table.

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Speaker 5: And at the time you're thinking he needs meds, Well, yeah, you did the people okay, And that is where I will believe anything at this point true.

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Speaker 4: The TikTok I sent you, guys, this is all allegedly.

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Speaker 3: Allegedly kim Porter's alleged book on that is going around in the news. I know it's been like a week or two. Allegedly kim Porter wrote a book and it was.

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Speaker 4: Leaked, but it is.

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Speaker 3: The alleged story is mind blowing and it puts together so many things, and there's a TikTok. I'm going to our group text one second because I think it's so important. So you guys, again, this is all alleged, but if you want to hear about it, there's a TikTok, and the girl really breaks it down.

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Speaker 4: She goes through this book.

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Speaker 3: Amanda Rawlins r O L l I NS and she basically just like goes through this alleged book that kim Porter wrote before she died, but she fact checks.

00:16:18
Speaker 4: So she reads something and she.

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Speaker 3: Goes like, for instance, the guy who took the fall when Ditty there was an incident, I'm not going to say it in a nightclub, a violent incident when Ditty was with j Lo and then a guy took the fall and Diddy was.

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Speaker 4: Not he was innocent.

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Speaker 3: She checks the stuff in kim Porter's alleged book and it all matches up.

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Speaker 4: Like this guy went to jail.

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Speaker 3: It is crazy and it's so dark, and I just really encourage you to go watch those clips because it's like I personally believe no.

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Speaker 1: I believe it. I believe it all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Who's the girl that you follow on TikTok Easton, I think she's She's in the music industry. She was talking a lot about Aliyah's death. And again this is all allegedly that we're talking about things that have been posted on TikTok and Instagram. So I do want to talk about one thing that since jay Z's name is being brought into this, I wrote in my book something that happened with me and a very well known agent at the time when I was fourteen and a very large still to this day, very large agency. And I had gone to meet with this agent and we were naive and from Utah, and my mom sent me alone, and he took me down the elevator and pressed the stop the thing to make the elevator stop, and tried to kiss me. Do you remember this? I wrote about it in my book. Yes, there was a piece of that story that I somehow had forgotten, and my mom brought it up. And it happened before the LA incident with this agent. And keep in mind, he was written about in the Hollywood Reporter as top I think it was top one hundred people you must know in Hollywood, and he was ranked in there, okay, and pretty high up. And I remember driving from LA with my mom and my dad back to Newport Beach and I get a phone call from this agent and he asks me if I want to go to a jay Z party that night. And I thought it was so strange because I'm like, I can't get into a Jay Z party. I'm fourteen. Like there, I'm no way going to pass as twenty one. I can't even pass as like eighteen at this point. And I'm not saying that jay Z is a part of this in any way, shape or form. Okay, he's being thrown into this mix as well as a lot of other people. These are all allegations. I cannot stress that enough. However, it did kind of of make me feel uneasy when I when my mom brought that up, and I was like, oh my god, what happened.

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming you set it out loud to your mom and she was like, You're not going anywhere tonight with an agent.

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Speaker 1: You know. I you wouldn't know it based on how my life ended up a few years ago. I had a very strong gut when I was young, and when I think it's why I didn't and I was a nervous child and I was an insecure child. The whole reason I don't think I went was because I watched a lot of TV from the time I was a young girl that I don't think I had the healthiest of what a body image should be, which is what I try to prevent for Ocean. I don't like her watching YouTube and real life people because I don't I want her to watch cartoons and things like that, because I know how the things that I saw, even just watching Mary Kate Nashley. Keep in mind, I was watching like I mentioned a Nelly music video that sticks in my mind where it was like late at night and it would only play where he's swiping credit cards in booties. I was seeing things like that at a young age. And when I say young, I was probably late elementary, junior high young impressionable, right, those things. I felt very insecure about my body, my ears, my nose, everything about it. So I didn't even ask my mom and dad. Number one, they would have been like, you're fucking crazy. Right, We're on family vacation and we got to get to the beach at six am. That but it prevented me from doing a lot of things my insecurities.

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Speaker 4: Thank god, thank god. I have a question for you.

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Speaker 3: Is this agent and apologies if you wrote it in your book, was this agent ever out it?

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Speaker 1: Or my mother called him? Okay, called the agency and said I would like to talk to so and so they said, And I was there when my mom made the call, because I think she was ready to take an axe to his throat. She was giving him the heads up that I'm coming to take an axe your throat, and they said he no longer works here and hung up on her. I heard a few years ago that he was now in Brazil, but he's a piece of shit.

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Speaker 4: He probably fleeing in Brazil or he would have gotten.

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Speaker 1: Got whatever the case, I'm thrilled I didn't go. Whether it was true or isn't true. With what's going on with these allegations and who is involved and who knew, I'm thrilled I didn't go because, no matter what, it was an unhealthy environment for a fourteen year old.

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Speaker 5: Thanks the girl, Yeah, that's the girl, Jaguar right, She's protect her at all.

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Speaker 1: Savage and we must protect her at all costs. And I watched there's a lot of stuff coming out on Hulu about Diddy TMZ. You know, they are on top of their shit. They turn these like doc you menneries out in no time. There's a girl, Talia Graves who's interviewed, and next to her is Gloria Allred. And what makes me nervous about this entire situation because they're talking about who's going to tech testify in this ditty case. I am praying to God that Cassie testifies. I pray to God that. I mean, there's one hundred and twenty new allegations right that are coming up. I hope that every single person shows up and testifies. And what I have learned from my own experience with the legal system in general is you can go out and talk to publications, you can show text messages and all the things, you must show up in court in order to make any of it matter. They say you need a warm body in a seat to say yes, that message was sent. It's not enough to just have the Cassie video out there. She has to be the warm body in the seat. Talia Graves with Gloria Allred my personal experience someone being with someone being represented by her. She is out for the settlement. From what I have experienced, I pray to God that Gloria Alread is wanting both. We're testifying and we're gonna get something to try and make it a little better. These women have been traumatized and no dollar amount on the planet is going to take away what they have experienced. But motherfucker, you're you're gonna pay in more than one way.

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Speaker 4: Right, I'll hope and pray for that.

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Speaker 1: I'm praying to God that they all show up. And I know it's going to be difficult. But I was watching the X There's a show by Blumhouse. It was the worst worst roommate ever. You know, has the worst ex ever because there were a couple women the first episode of the worst ex ever because there were a couple women who didn't show up to testify against this man and they went to the police. They did everything they should have done, but they didn't show up to court. This man was set free and went on to murder many people. Yep, So you got to show up. I know it's fucking hard. I can't I truly can not even imagine if any of those people listen to this podcast show up.

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Speaker 3: Not only hard, I'm sure it's truly traumatizing, Like you, showing up is sacrificing a lot, but it's also like doing the most good.

00:24:16
Speaker 4: You could possibly do.

00:24:17
Speaker 3: In my opinion, I've never been in this situation, however.

00:24:20
Speaker 1: I think it's very important to state that none of us have been in that situation.

00:24:23
Speaker 4: Ever.

00:24:24
Speaker 3: I've never been in this situation, however, I will say I've learned and heard over the past couple of years and even seen in some of your situations law that I don't think people can grasp because when I talk to friends from home about it, in order for most things to make it to the news, to see the light of day, I'm talking ditty's like you know, the FBI agents and all this, there has to be already so much evidence, so much evidence in order for things to just like hit the news. There are so many things that happen where there's so much evidence, so many people saying yes, this is what happens, so many people testifying, so many depositions, and one little thing shuts it down and it never sees the light of day. Ever, like I'm talking bad evil people and then they get one thing to shut it down, or one or two people don't show up and testify, or they get paid off, and it never sees the light of day.

00:25:21
Speaker 1: Well, I think this goes back to when I was talking to Heather MacDonald and she talked about I think I believe it's called citizens journalism. Where we have the internet now, so I think it's very important for anybody with an Instagram page, a Twitter or X whatever it's called now a podcast, don't stop talking about it because if the legal system isn't going to hold people accountable, they will if we all make enough fucking noise. Right, Yeah, so that's why we're going to talk about it and continue talking about it. Have we loved OHCA Housewives in Salt Lake? I have to be honest because I've been in my baby Bliss we watch I Love Y. I haven't gotten around to New York, but I fully intend on binging. I'm excited for New York. I know you're excited for New York. Yes, So let's talk OC first. I want to go back a few episodes. Let's first talk about how I feel about all the or yeah o Sea Housewives start with Tamra. Tamra is my homegirl, right Like, I love her so no matter what she does, stirs that pot to the best of her ability, and she does like no one else. It is fucking wild. I'm always down for her, Like you can't get me to not be down for her, right, Okay, So I'm down for pretty much this entire cast. I don't think Alexis counts as part of the cast yet she's.

00:26:49
Speaker 4: A friend of she's a friend of They say that.

00:26:52
Speaker 1: So, yeah, you're just a friend. I'm my favorite.

00:26:54
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:26:55
Speaker 1: So if we're taking the cast the people hold in the oranges, this season is giving me og ronie in the sense that I never I never watched O g Roney and I'm talking about the ones we all know, right and thought that person annoys me? Okay, they all there was something about all of them that I was like, I just dig it. You're an ensemble cast. You cannot lose anybody. They must have characters. I loved them all. That's how I feel this season. Jen love her.

00:27:31
Speaker 4: Katie is gonna say what about Katie?

00:27:34
Speaker 1: Katie is the most fantastic new housewife to ever exist?

00:27:39
Speaker 4: Stop ever such a bold statement.

00:27:41
Speaker 2: Ever, so she gets Rookie of the Year.

00:27:43
Speaker 1: Oh she yes, if they gave awards for ye, There's just it's kind of when I tell people this is the greatest season of OC and they're like why, and I'm like, you can't explain it. There's just something that mixes. Right. You threw in the ingreen audiences and yes, I know Theesa Judai. We threw in some coming okay, and it just works. I don't know what we did differently with the dish, but it's working. It's tasting fantastic. She gets Rookie of the Year. She just came in and it was like, who is this breath of fresh air? She's not too try hard, she just fits. Wow.

00:28:31
Speaker 4: I didn't expect you to say that, but maybe I need to.

00:28:34
Speaker 1: I don't know.

00:28:35
Speaker 4: I did not expect you to say that.

00:28:36
Speaker 1: I'm truly obsessed with her.

00:28:37
Speaker 4: I love it.

00:28:38
Speaker 1: And usually when there's a new housewife, I'm like the girl at school and there's the new When I watch Housewives, I'm the girl at school who the new girl walks in and it's like she can't sit with us, Like that's how I am with my housewives. Who the fuck is this? Please stop giving her a moment at home. She's got to like we've got she's an acquired taste. Let's wait to give her her own scene. I care about every fucking thing that comes out of her mouth and what she does. Her kids are cute as fuck. Yes, I love how open she is. Her husband is adorable. She is stunning, funny, witty, and I loved the line where she talks about her ex husband. Wait, remind okay, this is like a few episodes ago, she talks about her her husband. She's like, even his hair she goes, I saw a picture of him today and even his hairline is running away from them. And I'm like, that's shade to the ex Yes, drag them.

00:29:38
Speaker 4: Them all.

00:29:40
Speaker 1: It's me fantastic. If you're an asshole, you're getting dragged. You're getting dragged, You're getting fucking dragged. And by the way, I'm the type of person where I don't fixate on anything. If you are kind and you show up and you do your thing, when there's a fucking who's been as shit, I gotta stop saying shit. By the way, Ocean doesn't say fuck anymore, but she s a shit he doesn't love. She goes, you're a little poopy shit. I'm like, you cannot say that. It's not the fuck word, mom, And I'm like, it's still bad. There's many a bad words, so stop saying so much. But I'm like, I'm if you're a shit, we're mentioning it all, like spread, mention it.

00:30:24
Speaker 3: All, mention it all. Oh, I have questions for you. Talk about what you want. But you said that bold not bold, you said that powerful statement about loving Tamra, do you feel the same about Eddie.

00:30:34
Speaker 1: I love Eddie, You love Eddie. I love Eddie. Sorry love Eddie.

00:30:38
Speaker 4: Okay, I can't wait to get into the dinner scene.

00:30:40
Speaker 1: Then okay, we're gonna get into it. So that's my Gina and Emily. This is their season. This is their moment for both of them. I will say, Emily, I've always thought the moment she entered my screen was one of the sexiest humans I've ever seen. Sunny, she is funny, she is stunning, and I'm happy that she had I'm happy she lost the weight for her, and that's a big thing this season because of the fashion show and all of those things that we'll get into. But I'm happy that she is in a place where she feels good and accomplished. But let's make it very clear, the moment she stepped onto Housewives, she was fucking hot, stunning, and I have the weird d MS that I sent to her to prove that I O y. She says on her podcast that she's done that, that she feels that she and I are a lot alike, and it's the biggest compliment that I've ever got. She's stunning. I'm like Shane, you must be hitting.

00:31:48
Speaker 2: It something that Shane must be packing. There.

00:31:55
Speaker 1: Used to be a guy on Katie Maloney's Instagram page when she was married Shortzy, and every photo she posted would say in the comment section, Schwartz ain't hitting it right?

00:32:08
Speaker 4: Was he just a random guy?

00:32:10
Speaker 1: Random guy? Random guy? Every photo?

00:32:12
Speaker 2: And do a lot of laughing with having sex with Schwartz. Not a lot of pleasure, but there's some good jokes.

00:32:19
Speaker 1: I would rather laugh an orgasm from a vibrator.

00:32:23
Speaker 2: That anyone wants to know that I'd taken that with him. But here we are, all.

00:32:27
Speaker 1: Right, let's let's jump into it. I quickly want to say throwback Shannon showing Heather the photo of her after she crashed. She took the photo, sent it to John. John didn't respond. I to make it very clear, love Shannon Badore. She has never looked better than this season, and I know she's going through a lot. I do not understand how you could take that photo, see yourself like that and continue to drink.

00:32:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, that should be your pre for help.

00:32:59
Speaker 4: Everyone. I know, everyone is different. I'm literally yeah it is bottom. Yeah, I guess it was.

00:33:06
Speaker 1: Everyone's rock bottom is very different.

00:33:09
Speaker 3: It's a little scary because some are worse than others, and some are like, this is in your rock bottom.

00:33:14
Speaker 4: I pray you don't have a worse rock bottom.

00:33:17
Speaker 1: And you know what, maybe she has learned to drink and she's like a very different I know people like that who are like I went through a lot and they can now have a glass of wine. I'm envious of those people. I'm saying personally, that seemed like a rock bottom, and it's I can understand why people would a part of the cast be like, how could you still drink? I am understanding of that. I also understanding of how she feels that no one is supporting her when she's going through a really tough time. I feel that she's always going through a rough time though.

00:33:47
Speaker 5: Agreed, but everything always waved from liquor. Would people give a shit? What do you mean if she would stop drinking? Do you get what I'm saying?

00:33:54
Speaker 1: People care?

00:33:55
Speaker 2: Which people start to care.

00:33:56
Speaker 5: Because it's like, yeah, like if you're saying you just said that, Like she feels like no one cares about her, right.

00:34:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, she focuses on that a lot. She's very lonely.

00:34:06
Speaker 5: I'm not saying, but if I were to see her crasherr car see that photo, and she's continuing to drink. I'm not going to give a fuck about your problems as much as I should.

00:34:15
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's where some of the rash.

00:34:17
Speaker 5: And you're like, hey, I'm dead, sober, I fucked up, I need help.

00:34:20
Speaker 2: She'd have everybody there for her.

00:34:22
Speaker 5: But when you're doing the same thing, I'm insane for fucking participating in your insanity.

00:34:27
Speaker 1: Well that's where Tarmar Judge is. And Tarmar Judge, you know, she talks about her childhood. She she's got grit to her. She's not coming to you presenting her concerns about you in a pretty package. She's tough, and that's not how a lot of people respond. They don't respond well to that. And Shannon's not. So I understand where Tama is with being like what the fuck. She's just delivering it in a way that Shannon is not.

00:34:59
Speaker 2: She's not somebody. She does care.

00:35:01
Speaker 1: I think Camra cares a lot.

00:35:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and I'm sure you know what we only see, like you always say, we only see what we see on camera, So we don't see what she's struggling with. We see a little bit of her saying how lonely she is and how quiet it is, and I can't imagine if if you are struggling with alcohol. I'm not saying she is being in that situation and then not having your crutch to turn to or anything to like numb the silence or like just I'm sure it's very difficult, but yeah, no, I see where you're coming from.

00:35:30
Speaker 1: There are moments though throughout the years that she's been a part of the show and as an outsider, her life seems to be unmanageable, and I wish that she would bring So I'm feeling this way. I'm making my notes right, and I'm reflecting because I'm a fop on a sore obviously, and I'm like, yeah, she's going through a hard time, but like she's been through other things, and even when on good days she seems to just feel a little chaotic and down and wet, blanket ish. But then we're at her birthday party in the most recent episode, and the energy she brought there, I'm like, oh, this Shannon is primo. She walks in, she's excited about London. She has like the flag dress on. She also says she's sending Alexis a message saying we're going to London and I want to make it perfectly clear you are not invited. And I'm like, yes, where is this Shannon all the time? You don't have to be that person all the time. I actually take that back. Life is fucking hard and you can have rough days. You don't have to be on twenty four to seven. But I wish that she would channel whatever she was channeling in that moment with her Yes. And again, I've been a fan of Shannon's throughout all the years. I dig her. This is not me slamming her in any way, shape or form, but that energy was five star. I was like, I want to take a little bit of that energy, right, Like bring back the days where you text people to let them know you're not coming.

00:37:02
Speaker 4: YEA understood. I would not be inviting her either. Why were you, Shannon?

00:37:08
Speaker 1: She wasn't taking any chances. No, she was letting her friends know and production she ain't come in reminder, it's my birthday trip.

00:37:21
Speaker 3: There. It's like, yeah, it's like on your show with the who went to the wedding and they weren't invited and they watched from the balcony.

00:37:28
Speaker 1: Who was that? Katie, Katie and anywhere else? Christina Kelly in Mexico.

00:37:37
Speaker 4: There, it's the greatest. It's so good.

00:37:40
Speaker 1: Anyway, it's so good. God, I.

00:37:46
Speaker 2: Oh, She'll have like, you.

00:37:47
Speaker 1: Want to know who I need to tell that they're not invited. I forgot to send out my you're not invited invites.

00:37:52
Speaker 2: Those go out before the right.

00:37:55
Speaker 1: You're going to be hearing about this fabulous time, and I just want to make it perfectly clear you're not a part of it.

00:38:02
Speaker 4: That's so funny, that's so good.

00:38:04
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the dinner a couple episodes ago, because we're jumping around. Reminder, I'm talking about all the things that we haven't So this is the podcast of Chaos, the episode of Welcome to add.

00:38:17
Speaker 4: We also have a lot. You have a lot to catch up on. Do we all have add or ADHD we are?

00:38:23
Speaker 1: I'm fine, I don't care. I'm a creative I don't need to be focused.

00:38:27
Speaker 2: You think that until I forget a thousand things.

00:38:29
Speaker 3: From twenty five projects start and I'm like, I.

00:38:33
Speaker 2: Forgot I did all this.

00:38:34
Speaker 1: I just sexed just and I go, please remind me that I need this.

00:38:39
Speaker 2: Y Sometimes I have to text Jess.

00:38:41
Speaker 4: Because I say, no problem, she's.

00:38:47
Speaker 2: Gonna get hemorrhoids here.

00:38:49
Speaker 3: Okay, when you know I've never had hemmorhoids, but I I one day.

00:38:54
Speaker 4: I'm sure I will. When you say the dinner, do you mean you said a couple episodes?

00:38:59
Speaker 3: Are you talking about the dinner where tam with Eddie and Eddie not at Katie's house, at Katie's Now I'm getting stressed. You said a couple episodes ago, because that was the most recent one I watched.

00:39:09
Speaker 1: Oh well, the tail end, they were still there. Okay, okay, So the bulk of the dinner, yes, did take place. And then Tamra leaves and so funny on her way out, doesn't realize there's this step. So she makes this like big grand exits and trips and like Trumps are a person. She's like fuck slams the gate.

00:39:27
Speaker 4: She's so funny. She's so funny.

00:39:29
Speaker 3: I really love her, So talk about Yes, let's talk about the dinner.

00:39:33
Speaker 4: Let's talk about the dinner.

00:39:34
Speaker 1: I felt like, again I loved Jen and I feel like her heart's in the right place. Ryan scares me a bit. I have seen his eyes before in certain someone's other people, other people, and it just seems to be these eyes that are very dark and very great at creating stories right that he believes. So it was hard because that's how I feel about him. However, there were septs that Bravo brought about the podcast and what Tamra was accusing him of saying. It was like, oh, you missed on this one. And he's a pretty easy one to get, you know. Yeah, but I wish that she would have fact checked, like maybe listened to the episode. And by the way, again, I don't care to listen to anything, So if I hear it or read a headline, I'm like fact And then I talk about it and someone's like, hey, I heard you comment. Did you listen And I'm like no. They play it and I go, oh, yes, it's very different than how the headline sounded, right, Yes, So he was indeed telling the truth that he didn't talk about her children he was in the podcast.

00:40:50
Speaker 4: In fact, he even said like, I won't speak on that.

00:40:54
Speaker 1: He'd literally said, I won't speak on it. I don't know what goes on in their home.

00:40:58
Speaker 3: I don't know why she didn't seems like such the person to be like, let me just hear the clip before I go into talkie.

00:41:04
Speaker 4: You know, she knew she was going to talk about this at the dinner.

00:41:07
Speaker 1: Well, and then she was on Watch Rabbins Live after that episode, yeah, and said that he owed like a Dodger player money or something, and then had to go back and say, I misspoke. I was trying to talk about it didn't even make sense. Truly. I still don't know what the fuck is going on. Yeah, but he doesn't owe a Dodger player money, I guess, okay, or maybe he does.

00:41:30
Speaker 6: Maybe wait, because I thought I've heard, I'd have to go back and look.

00:41:33
Speaker 2: But when this whole thing happened, his.

00:41:34
Speaker 6: Name was was attached to it. They said, like the with Otani's, it wasn't the player that was involved, It was the player's translator. So sho that So yeah, So Shoeyo Tani is a player on the Los Angeles Dodgers who everybody, I'm sure if you're in the sportshoeld have heard about the gambling thing. It was his interpreter who got caught and who was stealing money from him and was going to another bookie. And I believe this guy from the Housewives was also attached to.

00:42:01
Speaker 2: It as well.

00:42:02
Speaker 1: It's okay to do with the FBI. Ors is a different care here we go. Now, it's sad, it's that FBI. And what he what Ryan is saying is his friend is a bookie. It's him. It's his friend who's being investigated by the FBI. Ryan does not say that. He says he's going through a tough time right now, and we have been fortunate enough when he goes to Vegas hosts us meaning him and Gen, he and Jen and he goes and I'm not going to talk about it any further. However, this bookie his his office address is Ryan's home address.

00:42:45
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's quite intertwined.

00:42:47
Speaker 1: Yes, And this is all coming from a sleuth, an internet, a Bravo sleuth. You know how they get on tiktoks and they show the documents and talk about the whole thing. That's where it's coming from. Right.

00:43:00
Speaker 3: A couple things, Okay, I want to ask you about how you feel.

00:43:04
Speaker 4: Number one, I think I love Tamra. I was interesting. It was very interesting to watch the Tamra Eddie dynamic.

00:43:13
Speaker 3: Okay, tell me because she went in and for me, especially because we saw their conversation before. For me, I'm watching Eddie and then you're hearing Jen be like Eddie, what are you doing? And he's like, I'm not. She's not I'm not her keeper. Great point, you're not her keeper.

00:43:29
Speaker 4: But you could tell. I could tell maybe this is just me.

00:43:33
Speaker 3: He was getting uncomfortable and he was almost like and then it goes to show when he's like stop. She crossed the line to him when she brought up the FBI, because of course, at the time, I doubt any news articles were leaked that there was FBI thing. So she brings up the FBI, and that was interesting to me because we saw which we'll talk about. Oh see, it's like the I saw it with Heather's it's like the whole like, don't chastise me in one of the cameras.

00:44:01
Speaker 1: Don't like oh Heather debrou yeah, har thing.

00:44:06
Speaker 3: But it was interesting because I feel like I don't see that a ton with Eddie and Tamera, but for him to be like stop stop and the cameras are around, and that was very interesting and very just like a different dynamic that I don't.

00:44:18
Speaker 4: Know, what do you think about it?

00:44:20
Speaker 1: I disagree with you? Okay, let's hear it in the sense that I've been watching Tamra and Eddie for many years right on television. I've had the luxury of being around them off of the camera, and they have gone through moments where they don't agree. She'll come for him, he will come for her. They have to me a very healthy relationship, a healthy dynamic. If it can happen behind closed doors, it can happen on camera. Obviously, we all have private lives, and I'm sure they have things that they keep private because that's how you keep your sanity. But I do not agree with you, and I think that he also remembers the time that Tamra spoke on Alexis Billino's ex husband and it cost her a lot of money in a lawsuit. So I think he's also thinking, you've had too much to drink, because we see him that night tell her cut. He says to Katie's husband, don't let my wife have any more to drink.

00:45:19
Speaker 4: No more.

00:45:19
Speaker 1: He was like, okay, And so I think he was thinking she's had too much to drink, and we're not going there. We're not going there because lawsuits can still come into play. Let's just play. It's safe let's not open ourselves up to problems. Okay, you know that's what I gathered.

00:45:37
Speaker 4: No, that's I mean, you know more of their background than I do. I figured it out.

00:45:41
Speaker 1: But no, but I like you. I like when we disagree.

00:45:45
Speaker 4: As I do.

00:45:46
Speaker 1: As I do too, so does the audience.

00:45:48
Speaker 3: So it's not so does the audience stick to your guns, bitch, well, stick to your guns. It's not the same energy then as Heather and her husband, because that seemed a little different, like they don't disagree again.

00:45:59
Speaker 1: I Heather, I love her talking about how much money they have in a roundabout way. I love her very wealthy ass all right, I find her top tier. But it was interesting. That was a dynamic we haven't seen before. When he is about to go into surgery and he kind of comes for her. She tries to shut him down and he doesn't allow it. He goes and I'm not talking about it. I'm gone, And then they have the moment where there's still might hot Mike hot Mike moment where she's like, don't do that on camera. I think that there's a little bit, but again, they have a lot to lose.

00:46:36
Speaker 3: Well, that's very normal to me, haven't you ever beenber I've been with excess.

00:46:40
Speaker 4: I mean not on TV, but at dinner parties or whatever.

00:46:42
Speaker 3: And then they say something to me and I tell, you know, in the car on the way home, I'm like, don't do that in front of our friend.

00:46:49
Speaker 4: Totally wait until we get home. I saw that, and I was like, Oh, such a normal, relatable thing.

00:46:53
Speaker 1: Of course it is, Yeah, of course it is some people though, depending on how you grew up where you come from. Remember my mom for a long time, not this way anymore because we broke her of it, but was very much like we don't talk about certain things. We don't talk about that because that's how she grew up. Then Easton and I come into the picture and talk about everything.

00:47:16
Speaker 4: In front of people or within each other both.

00:47:19
Speaker 1: Oh, I think my mom sometimes wonders like how we got here to where we share so much?

00:47:26
Speaker 3: Okay, were you in any past relationship if you disagreed with your partner in front of friends you just kind of stayed quiet, but it was like, oh, I'm about to go in and the car ride home or was it very much a.

00:47:37
Speaker 4: No, I disagree with what you say.

00:47:40
Speaker 3: Tell us more about that in front of the friends, Because I'm very much at this is how I was raised, quiet in front of people when I disagree, But in my mind, I'm like, oh, we're gonna have a serious conversation when we get home.

00:47:50
Speaker 1: You know. Sadly, I have never been in a functioning relationship where one or the other has come into play. Okay, you know, I don't know what it's like to even have to think about Do I talk about this behind closed doors or check you? I don't know. Yeah, okay, I'll let you know when I find someone. Do I like enough to protect or out? I don't know. We'll circle back, We'll circle back. Let's talk about Alexis. Let's talk about Emily first the fashion show, because we picked back up again at Shannon's birthday party, so a couple episodes ago. Emily brings up that she was not offended, but more so hurt. She's lost forty Okay, I love that she was hurt that Heather told her to bring jeans and also had her in a size twelve dress when Alexis was also in the same dress. She's lost forty pounds and it was a trigger for her. She brings it up to Heather. Heather dismisses it. She basically says she's mad because I had her bring jeans. But remember the rest of the girls were not told to bring jeans, so.

00:49:01
Speaker 2: They as given to my heather the whole thing.

00:49:04
Speaker 5: Don't ask me to walk unless you're gonna get my size of pants, Okay. Don't tell me to bring shit if you're asking me to do.

00:49:10
Speaker 1: Shit, right, And it was for charity, so I'm sure that all the women.

00:49:14
Speaker 5: Yeah, but still, if I'm gonna do it for charity, make sure that you're doing me right.

00:49:18
Speaker 1: Right, Like, don't make me feel dirty.

00:49:20
Speaker 2: I've done yeah, like I'm working on myself.

00:49:22
Speaker 5: You're making me bring jeans I now do not match the women that you brought pants for.

00:49:27
Speaker 2: Fuck you bring me a size that fits me.

00:49:29
Speaker 5: Make me feel like I am involved in this and you didn't throw me a bone of You can go up there too, for charity.

00:49:36
Speaker 2: It's like, right, if you're gonna do it, fucking get my size.

00:49:39
Speaker 1: Okay, I agree, I agree.

00:49:41
Speaker 4: Make them specialty.

00:49:43
Speaker 3: It's a sample size, Like I know that wasn't the case, but it's like the sample, well, we don't have your size.

00:49:49
Speaker 1: It's like right, I didn't agree with the way Heather handled it at all. I think that she should have made I think she should have first asked for everyone's sizes. If you can, don't just guess yeah, right. And also when Emily's coming to you saying you made me feel this way, you know, as we know, feelings are not facts, but they're very personal.

00:50:12
Speaker 5: You have to take everybody's feelings into account.

00:50:15
Speaker 1: Because they are fact for that person. It is a fact that I felt this way. Maybe not a fact that you made me feel this way, but the situation, I'm feeling like I put in a lot of hard work and you still see me as an Emily that's the big.

00:50:31
Speaker 5: Character, and everyone is their main character, so hurt so I'm the main character.

00:50:36
Speaker 2: You hurt me, I'm gonna be hurt. So that's the thing.

00:50:38
Speaker 5: Feelings are that, but I thought it. I just think it's bullshit that you're going to do it that way. And I get that it's for a charity, and there was probably bigger and better, not better, but bigger things to worry about of making money in that maybe your pants weren't.

00:50:51
Speaker 2: The biggest thing.

00:50:53
Speaker 5: And still make the effort or even just say I apologize and go up to her and say if you felt any way, I do apologize I should have been better at doing this and just vocalize how bad you feel. But for none of that to ever happen either, it's something else.

00:51:08
Speaker 1: I think they left on a good note this last episode. But when Emily even in the second round, when everything had kind of calmed down because they got into it and then they have a real sit down, and when Emily again tells how she's feeling, Heather says, you know, that's crazy, and it's like, but it's it's not crazy, and everybody has their own way of defending themselves or has their own I always say perception is a crazy thing, and that's where we always go wrong with each other, is you know, my perspective on something may be very different from yours, and I'm trying to work on it as well. Tamra hands you a package that her intention is great, but here's a pile of shit in Shannon's mind, you're giving me a pile of shit. I tend to be that way too, and I'm working on it where if someone's telling me how they're feeling, immediately you have to step into a place of that was not my intention. I am so sorry that it came across that way. I'm going to do better next time, and she just was. Heather was not giving that at all. And I don't know what it's like to struggle with your weight again. I think we all have our own insecurities, whether it be face related, weight related, skinny, too skinny, too thick, we all have it right, And when someone like Emily has has been vocal about her obsession with going to the gym, she it's an addiction for her at this point, I think for her, and I think she's actually said this in her mind. She's she's always going to be the big girl, quote unquote right, no matter how much weight she loses or how hard she works out.

00:52:47
Speaker 2: Some people are just there's three different bone structures. Look them up.

00:52:50
Speaker 5: But there's like a skinny, a normal, and then a big bone.

00:52:55
Speaker 1: What is normal though? Does that average? Like average.

00:53:00
Speaker 2: Names for like your bone build? Okay, I have a skinny bone build.

00:53:04
Speaker 5: My buddies have bigger like that's I can't get my wrist bigger.

00:53:08
Speaker 2: Their wrists are big.

00:53:09
Speaker 1: And sometimes like the way your bones are, yeah.

00:53:12
Speaker 2: Just sometimes you can only get as thin as you can get.

00:53:15
Speaker 5: Don't kick yourself for not being able to get thinner because your body won't allow it.

00:53:18
Speaker 3: But even if I hear yes, one hundred percent. But it's like Chloe Kardashian, She's like, it.

00:53:23
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter if I'm.

00:53:24
Speaker 4: As zero, I'm always gonna see like the big girl. Even if some people they be bone.

00:53:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, well even if they weren't big bone, let's say are overweight.

00:53:31
Speaker 4: There's so many people. I have family members like this.

00:53:33
Speaker 3: They are a hundred whatever they're they're no body fat, they're not even big boned, and they're like, yes, but in deep down, I lived that way for twenty five years.

00:53:44
Speaker 4: I'm always gonna feel that way. Okay, just like an.

00:53:46
Speaker 1: Insecure that's so true.

00:53:48
Speaker 2: I have a buddy, you know him too. He caught his hair on fire.

00:53:51
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, in a little league football game. But he's like twenty seven now, but he he we were talking about this a month ago.

00:53:59
Speaker 2: But he even says like he feels like that as well.

00:54:02
Speaker 5: And he's to a point where like he is big boned and can't lose any more weight, but he wants to, and he still carries like the big brother, like okay, but he's the little brother.

00:54:11
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, so I agree, I get that.

00:54:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Emily was looking for just a little bit of compassion in that moment, and I hope that she walked away and got it. We'll see. They just filmed the reunion over the weekend, so I'm super excited about it.

00:54:26
Speaker 3: I love Heather so much and I respect her. I think they out of all of the housewives, I think she has some out of touch moments.

00:54:36
Speaker 2: How could you not?

00:54:38
Speaker 1: Would you fucking not?

00:54:39
Speaker 4: But like emotionally, because some moments.

00:54:41
Speaker 1: Emotional yes, okay, I see.

00:54:43
Speaker 3: Her and I'm like, she's so emotionally mature, and then other moments I'm like, girl, you know better than this.

00:54:50
Speaker 5: Compassionate, but that's when she does that, that's how she knows that she gotta go there, You gotta you have to do this to know this, you know good violence for I.

00:54:58
Speaker 1: Think it always too goes back to how you were raised, Like if you had a mom who maybe had a hard time not saying she did. I'm just throwing it out there that sometimes we grow up in a certain way and we just don't know any better exactly that's.

00:55:12
Speaker 3: Who raised us, or can't relate to the feeling of like, well, why would you feel this way.

00:55:17
Speaker 4: What that's crazy.

00:55:19
Speaker 3: You can't relate, but like you know what, it's like you've never been in that situation to feel that feeling crazy, But it's not crazy because that person is feeling.

00:55:29
Speaker 1: It well again, I I I'd hit it with emilynning her yes beyond she has sex eyes, baby making eyes.

00:55:41
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I'm on over eyes.

00:55:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I'm gonna stop now.

00:55:47
Speaker 4: Getting horny.

00:55:48
Speaker 1: Johnny Jay has made his appearance into the confessional room next to Alexis. Alexis extended an olive branch by sending Shannon a floral arrangement and that's when Shannon sends the text or whatever, says she's gonna send it. That was Alexis's way of extending an olive branch. I think the damage is you can't repair it right right, Alexi says, I'm done when Jen and Katie walk in and basically try to deliver the soft news of your not coming to London, and she basically kicks them out in a very kind way. She was not aggressive. She's broken. But I loved John's interview because he's like, I filed the law shut. By the way, Shannon has never looked better and neither has Johnny J. They both look great, Okay, Shannon looks better because she's a bad bitch, and Johnny J. Like, if you would just shut the fuck up and just be like like a stick figure, just sit there, don't talk, don't do, don't breathe just sit there. I was looking for, not a stick figure, a mannequin. He looks great, okay, but he's like. I filed the law shuit because I realized the Statute of libertation was about to be up. And I'm like, oh, so you only had seven days left to prove you're an asshole, you fucking idiot. The statute of limitations is only allowing me thirty seven more hours to prove I'm a.

00:57:16
Speaker 4: Debt so true.

00:57:18
Speaker 3: I'm saying, wait, how do we feel about this lawsuit? Because in my mind, I'm like, am I not understanding something? She offered the money, so why don't you just go Okay.

00:57:29
Speaker 1: He wants the gag order, Okay, unpopular opinion. You come to me and try to silence me, get the fuck out of my face. And I have said this and even Johnny J. Is as big of a piece of shit as he is, and I will die on that hill. You are a piece of shit, Johnny j I stand by Our voice is all we have at times, and you will not silence me. Okay. Ever, you could come to me and say this will all be done for five hundred million dollars, I would actually shut it. I do have a friend.

00:58:07
Speaker 3: I think that is so powerful. But here's my question. Let me pitch it to you in this light.

00:58:11
Speaker 1: Disagree with me, die on the disagree we go. I'm begging.

00:58:15
Speaker 4: Here we go.

00:58:15
Speaker 3: So you say, but in the situations you've been in, if you've been in these situations, you're in situations where you're being offered like or told silence when you know your voice speaking up would help others, you'd be truly speaking out against evil. In a situation where is Johnny Jay just not what like is his voice being why is why is she wanting him to sign a gag order? I don't know if this has been spoken about. Are there like photo like what is he wanting to talk about?

00:58:49
Speaker 1: I think it was a really horrific night that night, okay, And I think Shannon wants it to be put to bed. I don't want it used against me. I'm trying to heal and I want it to just be done. Let me move on with my life without you trying to make it hard. You've got a lexus. Now you've got a beautiful life, go live it and don't talk about me. And to ensure that you go and live a beautiful life. And so do I sign this agreement that just says you won't talk about me anymore?

00:59:18
Speaker 3: So in that case, do you think maybe he should have signed it because it's like or are you like?

00:59:23
Speaker 2: No?

00:59:24
Speaker 3: Because she did a bad thing and if he's got more to say, he should say it.

00:59:27
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, if he has to shut the fuck up about you, you got to shut the fuck up about him too. That should have been in the agreement. I think we will both sign something and we will never talk poorly about each other again. They don't have children involved, they have no tie to each other, cut each other loose, sign something to ensure that neither of you will talk poorly about each other, and move the fuck.

00:59:51
Speaker 2: Is there an obsession that they have with each other?

00:59:53
Speaker 1: No. I think Shannon just wants to move on with her life. I think Johnny Jay want I think he has a little bit of narcissism in him. There's stage it or levels to narcissism, and he just is out to get her. I don't get it. It's wild. Seventy five thousand. It's a lot of money. But I'm like, seventy five thousand, buddy to.

01:00:13
Speaker 4: But Shannon, eat it right, you dick.

01:00:15
Speaker 3: Shannon does have kids though, right, like just to say like she don't have kids together together. But in my mind, I do understand where it's like you, she does want him to shut up because what he says will.

01:00:27
Speaker 4: Affect her kid's life.

01:00:28
Speaker 1: She he has kids too.

01:00:29
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yes, go talk poorly about them to the kids.

01:00:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a public thing. I can still talk shit about you to my friends.

01:00:37
Speaker 4: I'm just not gonna make statements.

01:00:39
Speaker 1: Yeah. And by the way, you just have someone else.

01:00:42
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, can you get around it by having someone else?

01:00:46
Speaker 1: Yes?

01:00:46
Speaker 4: Why aren't you having me talk shit?

01:00:48
Speaker 1: Law? Because I'm not a little bitch and I'll say that shit on my own Yon sign and shit. You know. So there's that SLC. We're only like three episodes deep. For this week, Mary's son is in rehab for fentanyl and cocaine. That's what I read online. I don't know if he checked himself in, someone else checked him in. All I know is we are setting he's there getting help. We're gonna wish him all of the best and send him our love and prayers. It's officially started. There's a new girl, Bronwin. All right. My first take on her, I was like, broun Win, we had an oc house. What are the chants that only in Utah would we have a bron Win? My God? Next to Kaylee spelled the longest way possible L E I G H. And it's also ka y base six. Why so many letters to get to such a basic ass name? Sorry, Kaylee, we still love you like I'm gonna stay spelling my name l a.

01:01:50
Speaker 4: H l a h la la, somebody said.

01:01:53
Speaker 3: Somebody commented in today's episode, if you were a PI, your name would be l a w l a.

01:01:58
Speaker 2: W la law.

01:02:00
Speaker 1: Why did I put that Ali? Why?

01:02:02
Speaker 4: Lot?

01:02:04
Speaker 1: That's legit? So I wasn't sure how I felt about her. She made her entrance with that big furry heart, which I've only seen on Rihanna, and she did point out there's only three in the world, and Rihanna is one of the owners of this piece. It's fabulous, but only if you're Rihanna, otherwise fucking stupid. So they're at this this get together outside it's like a festive. What's the thing that celebrates love? Mary Valentine Valentine's Day? So she Bronwyn is sitting with Mary Brittany the new girl who's dating, and Osmond sits down and she's like, I love your costumes, and they're like so offended by it and already like we know who Mary is. Right first, I fixate because they both kind of come at her and talk about like brands and designers. The only thing I can focus on is the fact that Mary Cosby has a giant what I hope would be faux for it might have been real for jacket on that looks like it has spray painted Dulcy and Goabona and giant double sea gloves Chanel. And I'm like, honey, you can't step in here talking about fashion and designers when the biggest of all the no nos is what you're doing right, You just don't do it. I let it slide with shoes, bags I kind of have a hard time with as well. The shoes let it slide. The bag needs to go with the fit have I broken this before, Yes, but I do not show up on camera and I do not take pictures. She shared doesn't so that already. I was like, you, Mary, shut the fuck up because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. And then Braun when I was like, Okay, you're annoying. But then she is in her confessional and she was like, I'm like a Tim Burton character, and I was like, okay, I actually like you. You're extravagant, you're quirky, you're a little weirdo. Yeah, so fucking into you. Her husband is like five hundred years old, little weird but whatever, no judgment. He invented I guess the pomp pilot. So they are rich, a little nauseating, but again, she's a Tim Burton character, so we let that slide too. I'm digging the new girl. She's dope. So now we're at the game, right and Brittany, who's a new character friend of is dating the Osmond guy, and she finds out from our fabulous Greek Princess Angie that her brow girl is getting DMS from Jared Osmond, and Brittany is very upset about it because he asked her to be his girlfriend, Brittany seems to be a little bit emotionally stunted. I think it's because she used to be a Mormon and was married at a young age and had children, and they get that way, they people who get married too young. How do you develop? And I've never been in a serious relationship ever, never been married, and I am very emotionally mature, very emotionally mature. Arry some would say the most she is quite. Yeah, but it's sad because I'm like, why are we acting like we're fourteen, Brittany.

01:05:11
Speaker 3: No, britt It did make me sad because I didn't I expected a little pushback of her to be like, well your brow girl anything, and she wasn't.

01:05:20
Speaker 4: She heard it and she's like that, oh that was sad, and she cried.

01:05:24
Speaker 1: In the bathroom in the bathroom, and Meredith went and comforted her. Meredith has now called uh Whitney out on purchasing her prism stuff from Ali Baba.

01:05:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, how do we feel about that?

01:05:37
Speaker 1: I don't love it, don't I don't love it? And if this is true. The image kind of showed that it was true that she's also taking the image from Ali Baba and using the same image to push her stuff.

01:05:51
Speaker 3: And let's be clear everyone we see it because I've seen it. I saw a lot of write ups about it this morning.

01:05:58
Speaker 4: It happens.

01:05:59
Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind kind of well known that it happens with a lot of brands. But I think the point was, like the markup was the market was crazy, and also that she was not making it look maybe as honest as others do.

01:06:16
Speaker 1: Well. I think Meredith was like, if this were me doing this type of thing, Whitney would be on my ass about it. I didn't love at one of the dinner parties that it was Heather, Meredith and Lisa Barlow coming at Whitney. That felt a little intense and a little attackish. I don't know if they made it look that like heightened it looking that way for you know, in the editing room, but it was a lot and Whitney stood her ground. But I do see where Meredith is coming from. She's like, hold up, if this were me or anybody else, you would bring it up. You talked about Lisa's has Lisa maybe hooking up with some guy who hooks her up with jazz tickets? Like you definitely carry the bone. Yeah, So I'm going to carry the bone now. So that's another storyline. Again, We're only three episodes in, so we're getting the momentum. I like it so far.

01:07:07
Speaker 3: Can we put a pin in or something in the fact that this is something you should have done? You seeing those women watch the practice of all those hot basketball men, I was thinking, like, Lala should be we need to get you not only watching a practice, but then going into.

01:07:23
Speaker 1: The fucking all of them.

01:07:26
Speaker 4: At once.

01:07:28
Speaker 3: Fuck you they were hot hot men?

01:07:31
Speaker 1: Were they?

01:07:32
Speaker 4: You did not see?

01:07:33
Speaker 1: I kind of zoned out because I was breastfeeding. Fucking they were. Sorry, I'll go back and watch. I'll definitely go.

01:07:42
Speaker 2: Back here, thank Town.

01:07:47
Speaker 1: I want to, by the way, just because I want to go back to one thing and then we'll wrap up. I want to go back to one thing that happened where Angie I think this was episode one, maybe two. Angie pulls out a scroll for Meredith and it has all of these things listed on what she what Meredith needs to apologize to Angie for. Let me be very very clear on this. It's stupid. It was not a moment. It feels like a bit We are too far into the Housewives game to start doing to do shit like that. It's not It's like bringing notes now to the reunion. It's like it's been done. You saw it before. It's like you sat at home and thought, what can I do? That's crazy. It doesn't feel real and organic. It would be like watching someone flip a table now and it's like, m not impressed. Doesn't feel organic. Teresa did it before, like season one, before the season had even aired. Please stop trying to make something a moment.

01:08:46
Speaker 4: It's a it's try hard.

01:08:47
Speaker 1: It's so try hard moment they do. And I just I want housewives who are new to stop doing it. It's really embarrassing. But I love Angie k And she's in the center of the picture, by the way, when they have their whatever, they have snowflakes, snow globes. I think they're holding snowflakes, AI snowflakes. She's the center. She is the center. You guys were gonna call it a day because oh I also want to say that Jared Osmond is a clown.

01:09:17
Speaker 4: A clown. I'm just echoing.

01:09:20
Speaker 1: We've got two clowns on the air. They go by the names of John Janssen aka Johnny j. Be on the Look at he does have an alias in these streets and Jared Osmond, are we achin reliefing? Let's ache and relief it and then we'll send Easton off to Hawaii. Whooo, all right, go for it.

01:09:37
Speaker 3: Ess this isn't the annual Hawaii trip by the way, you guys that happens in December.

01:09:42
Speaker 4: My ache.

01:09:44
Speaker 3: I am horrified that Hurricane Helene or Helena Helene.

01:09:52
Speaker 4: Is just like, and this might be just me.

01:09:54
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem to be in the news, and so many people have died from it and things are just ruined. Houses are gone, families are misplaced, and animals like it's crazy, horrific, and I'm just now like this morning was really trying to catch up and I felt so weird about it, Like why am I sitting here trying to catch up on this news when it's I feel like it should be in front of my face, like I'm on socials.

01:10:20
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I'm doing more research today.

01:10:22
Speaker 3: But it just obviously prayers for those misplaced families and beings and animals and it's horrific and heartbreaking.

01:10:30
Speaker 1: Thank you for bringing that up, Jossa. Of course it was.

01:10:33
Speaker 3: That great, great, Yeah, I mean, and then relief is just I got to see my nephew this past weekend, Carter, my sister's son. I'm an auntie and it was beautiful just to see my family and hang with my little cute little moon man.

01:10:52
Speaker 4: Is what my sister calls them. Yeah, she's like my moon man.

01:10:55
Speaker 1: It's so so, I know, I love mister.

01:10:58
Speaker 4: Moon mister Oh it's he cute. Okay, so yes, perfect.

01:11:03
Speaker 2: Yeah.

01:11:03
Speaker 5: My ache of the week is the hurricane land in. His family lives in the Carolinas.

01:11:11
Speaker 1: They're forty miles out of Ashville.

01:11:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, and still got hit with it. They just got power back.

01:11:17
Speaker 1: On on what Saturday yesterday, So Sunday Sunday just.

01:11:21
Speaker 2: Got power back on.

01:11:22
Speaker 5: I feel like they aren't doing a lot of televised things going on there. I also heard, don't know if it's true, Elon Musk had helicopters flying in to deliver like supplies. I hope so, and they weren't letting them in the airspace.

01:11:37
Speaker 1: Wow.

01:11:38
Speaker 3: And just like this morning, Just not to interrupt, but as of like a couple hours ago, over two hundred and twenty dead as some communities struggle to get basic supplies.

01:11:47
Speaker 1: Got in the us. They're sending like pack mules in they My mom's been in touch with a few people in Ashville that have been sliding into her DMS, and they said it. I have been at home and I have been watching the news, and it is making local news and national news. The problem is is people who are living there don't feel like it's productive news.

01:12:11
Speaker 2: Right.

01:12:11
Speaker 5: Well, did you hear you can get a seven hundred and fifty dollars like check from the state.

01:12:17
Speaker 2: Right and you have to apply online?

01:12:19
Speaker 1: Well, there's no there's I can't. I don't even have a house.

01:12:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, let alone Wi Fi or a phone that's in the water too. I have my life and that's.

01:12:29
Speaker 2: What I have right now.

01:12:30
Speaker 4: That's heartbreaking.

01:12:30
Speaker 1: People losing their animals, Like well, by the way, if there's anyone there who who has access to a phone and can send like where would be the best place to send supplies? Like how do we get to you? How do we send money.

01:12:46
Speaker 2: In the address?

01:12:47
Speaker 5: What's a great address that we could send things where it can now be dispersed throughout?

01:12:52
Speaker 2: Where?

01:12:52
Speaker 1: Where is the most productive place to send money? Because I'm getting a lot of what the news is saying and what my mom is hearing from people who are there are conflicting yes, yes.

01:13:03
Speaker 3: Like boots on the ground, people that we could eat, click, we could post the link and send like, oh, these are people who are literally going in risking their lives probably and helping.

01:13:14
Speaker 1: I will say, and this is a trigger warning. One of the women that my mom has been talking to said, there are bodies in trees. It's horrific, just sick.

01:13:27
Speaker 4: That is like happening.

01:13:28
Speaker 3: Not that it would be any less heartbreaking if it wasn't happening in the US, but these are our neighbors. And I'm like researching it this morning, like why It's just feels crazy.

01:13:39
Speaker 1: Right, Like why wouldn't it be Why why wouldn't I be getting alerts like the alert that I get about an elderly person.

01:13:46
Speaker 4: Like it should be everywhere and.

01:13:49
Speaker 1: We shouldn't be going from you know, the news about the hurricane to like and in other news sally the donkey, Yeah in Los Angeles walk fifteen miles. You know, it's like, what the fuck?

01:14:02
Speaker 3: What?

01:14:03
Speaker 1: It's very strange the news which we knew based off of the morning shown on Apple TV. Do you have a relief before we send you on your way to Hawaii for a wedding.

01:14:15
Speaker 2: That's a relief, but no other than that, I don't have one, all right, So sickening world right now. Apparently relief will be when it gets a bit better.

01:14:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, amen to that. If you want to head out Eastan you can.

01:14:26
Speaker 2: You're good.

01:14:27
Speaker 1: Forty. I will say that my ache is the same as your guys is, and I think my relief is just my life. I'm a very very happy human. I feel very blessed and fortunate, and I not only pray for all of you guys, but I thank God for my life that I have. We love you. We're so glad happy to be back. I love you guys. Thank you so much for holding down the podcast while I was gone. Everybody loved you, as I knew that they would. Thank you for continuing to listen to the Give Them Alla podcast, and I will catch you next week.