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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: Radio recapping the game last night. The Chiefs used to be the NFL's gold standard. You had stability, you had brilliant you had Patrick Mahomes, you had Andy Reid, you had a defense that was among the league's best. But last night they got clipped thirty one twenty eight. They're now two and three. So for the first time in years like this feels like two and three. Uh oh, not two and three. They're the Chiefs. They'll be able to come back. Now, do I think getting a couple of wide receivers back would certainly help. You know, you don't have reliable receivers there. But still, Jacksonville did what you want a team, a playoff team or a playoff worthy team do, and that is you're down, you rely on your quarterback and you pull out the win. So that's back to back wins. You've beaten the Niners. In the Chiefs, you're four and one. Trevor Lawrence looks steady, defense, opportunistic. Liam Cohen the new head coach, he looks battle tested. As for the Chiefs, I guess slipping a little bit, and maybe the Jags are rising a little bit. But either way, that gap between Kansas City and the rest of the AFC not as wide as it used to be. And there were a couple of moments in there where Mahomes did what you thought Mahomes would do. I thought they had a terrible kickoff by Harrison Butker that put Jacksonville at the forty yard line, and then Trevor Lawrence made a couple of big plays and Jacksonville is now four and one, tied with Buffalo and tied with the Colts with the best record in the NFL. All right, Seaton, what's pole question we're going to go with. By the way, the Jags four and one start the best start through five games since two thousand and seven when they started four and one. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Who was on the seven team. It's like Mark Brunell on there, Yeah, Paul, I know.

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Speaker 3: Fred Taylor was on there. He was their start. I just looked up David.

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Speaker 2: Garrard, Oh, pro bowler, David Garrard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he kind of came out of nowhere, had a breakout year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, David Garard, I think that was his only Pro Bowl. But he played well. He was tough. Uh Seaton poll question.

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Speaker 4: Well, we're just putting up the weekly Power and Dower rankings. Very exciting. Your options for the power rankings are Detroit, Philly, Buffalo, Tampa, Green Bay, Denver, Indie, and making. I think their first appearance would be the Jacksonville Jaguars off of a big win.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations you guys on the top eight. Wow, those are the power rankings. Who's the best team in the NFL?

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Speaker 4: Is that what you're we are We're asking right now who the most powerful team in the NFL?

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Speaker 2: Are? Okay? Or and then we're gonna have the Dower rankings as well.

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Speaker 4: Yes, your Dower rankings. You can also vote on those. Right there, we have let's see the Jets, Titans, Dolphins, Giants, Raiders, Saints, Bengals, and Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 2: Yes. Wait, should the Bengals be on there? With two wins?

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Speaker 3: They've been outscored by seventy one points this year. The Bengal very.

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Speaker 2: Dowerful, very dowerful, very dowerful. Dang dang, all right, the best team in Pro football right now is who Marvin the Philadelphia Eagles all right, Paul, the Lions, no doubt.

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Speaker 5: God, I'm still gonna lean towards the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: All right, Seaton, I'm gonna say Destois. I'm gonna say Detroit as well, because they had a quality loss. Well, they lost to Green Bay at Green Bay, but they look formidable offensively. I think that was our big question. Oh, they lost their offensive coordinator and you get Aiden Hutchinson back, and that team is That team seems to be great on both sides of the ball. The Eagles, I still have questions. There's something going on there. I don't want to rely on Jalen Hurts to beat the opposition through the air. I think when there's a combo platter, that's when the Eagles are great, the defense consistent, then they can be the best team in football. But you know, Saquon Barkley not running the ball and you're going to throw it thirty eight times. Okay, that's not the formula. And we certainly saw that. They've allowed teams to stay around. Now the Chiefs did that. They've made a tradition out of close games. Everybody is within one score, but they pull those games out. You can't continue to do that. Now they have, they've had sustained greatness, but sometimes it catches up with you. And you had the stumble Rooskie with Trevor Lawrence last night, and this is how it sounded when he scored the game winner.

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Speaker 1: Trevor under center Heyce looked and he fell down.

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Speaker 6: Tremor fell down on the play charge to.

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Speaker 2: Play run cut down.

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Speaker 7: He got up.

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Speaker 6: It's I got Tapa Tenny, Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to know how that voice sounds today. That's courtesy of the Jags Radio Network. Trevor Lawrence his foot got stepped on by his center. He falls down. Chris Jones, the great defensive lineman for the Chiefs, can't find him. It's like I somehow lost a six' five. Guy and Then lawrence, stumbles gets back, up and THEN i think the defense is, like, well wait a, minute is the play? Dead like what's going on? Here and he dives in for the game.

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Speaker 4: Winner, yeah it's gonna Said todd will be happy to know that was actually The chiefs call of that, touchdown.

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Speaker 8: Showing some.

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Speaker 2: Enthusias it's a big moment in the.

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Speaker 6: Game it's the.

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Speaker 2: Game the Stumble rooskie of social media is calling it With Trevor. Lawrence, hey but that's what you want out of these. GUYS i think we talked About Trevor. Lawrence is he ever going to live up to the?

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Speaker 5: Hype?

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Speaker 2: Uh in parentheses. Bust he's had a couple of good, years you, know but you're still waiting for. Him you, know he should be knocking on the. Door being in the top five. Quarterback he was can't miss going to. College he was can't miss going into THE. Nfl, now, GRANTED i got a gradym on a curve here because he went through Coaches Urban meyer. SITUATION i still don't think they've surrounded him with great weapons. There, Yes.

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Speaker 3: Paulie, yeah his second year in a, league twenty twenty two Post Urban meyer, mess he was. Awesome twenty five, touchdowns eight. Picks he was in THE mvp race the past three. Years though he's like a sixty three, percent sixty two percent, passer quite a few. Interceptions even this year he's four and, One but he's a sixty percent, passer six, touchdowns five. Picks it's not, pretty, ever it's not easy and.

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Speaker 5: Smooth.

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Speaker 2: Ever, no by the, way THE NFL mvp, Odds i've been Saying Baker mayfield should be the. Leader he's. Not according to, DraftKings Josh allen sizeable Over Patrick. Mahomes this is as of. TODAY i DON'T i Mean mahomes is your second. Favorite Baker mayfield has been great and they're a very good. Team Justin herbert is ahead Of Baker. Mayfield Matthew stafford is Behind. Mayfield then Love golf Hurts Jaden. Daniels But i'm surprised at The Patrick mahomes placement there number. Two, Overall baker's got ten, touchdowns one. Interception they have played really. Well they could have won The eagles. Game you go To seattle in a shootout and you. Win i'm surprised at. That All, Right baseball yesterday and last, night defense saved The dodgers beating The phillies four to. Three they're up two to. Zero now going back To Los, angeles The brewers roll The cubs seven to. Three you Got mariners at The tigers, Today Blue jays at The yankees as. Well all, right eight seven to seven THREE dp show email ADDRESS dp At danpatrick dot, Com twitter handle at dp. Show so we have power rankings and we Have dour rankings as, well and let me see IF i have anything else. Here the Odds World series odds just got. Those The dodgers are your big. Favorites then it's The, brewers then The Blue, Jays, Mariners, Tigers, Yankees, phillies and The cubs trailing they pulling up the rear at plus thirty five hundred The dodgers or plus one fifty. Five all, right any other pole questions that we're thinking. About by the, way sign up for the. Newsletter go To Dan patrick dot. Com every single day we recap everything that, happened and we also give you a heads up what's going to happen on future. Shows and we're still trying to lock in the number of people who can join us In South. Bend will be there Next thursday And friday for The Notre DAME usc, game and we are told we can have an audience. There we'll be, Outside SO i don't know what the elements are going to be like In South, bend BUT i would, say if you do show, up dress accordingly because you'll be. Outside any other pole questions there seaton many other pole, questions then many other pole.

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Speaker 4: Questions let's See paully sent this one Over Trevor lawrence is a.

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Speaker 2: Good, quarterback going to be great or a? DISAPPOINTMENT i would say he's good. QUARTERBACK i don't know if he's going to be great if we remove a.

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Speaker 4: Good, quarterback because that's kind of the middle of the road, answer, Right, YEAH i think he's gonna be. Good, okay what if he's either going to be great or?

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Speaker 2: Disappointing right? NOW i would say. Disappointing he's shown. GLIMPSES i think that's the problem sometimes when you see guys where you, go why do you like this all the. Time, well that's the difference between difference between good and, great and it's the. Consistency it's weak in and week, out being, threatening being, good coming up with great, moments and we just haven't seen that from. Him, yeah SO i would SAY i would lean towards a, disappointment but only because the expectation level was through the roof for him and should have. Been but you, know maybe it took a while to get through The Urban meyer. Phase, Yeah, paul.

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Speaker 3: It's almost apples And. Orgies he came in Like Andrew luck in, college where there's just no doubt and it's been a nice career it's apples and orgues to Like Zion, Williamson Zion. Widgeon willison's career when he's healthy is.

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Speaker 5: Nice he's.

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Speaker 2: Good he's a good.

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Speaker 3: Player he's not.

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Speaker 2: Spectacular what else seen the?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Well and you, KNOW i mean He Trevor lawrence came into college a sure. Thing he didn't even go into THE nfl was sure that he was in. College everybody was, waiting, like, man it's too bad he's got to play here because he could just jump right to the next. Level, man talk about a guy who needed a season like this, Though.

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Speaker 2: Well just a, game, Hole let's start with a game that takes a little bit of the heat off of. Him but you, know you're four and, one but you're in a division where are The? Colts for? Real are The texans gonna come back after what they did Against? Baltimore so maybe maybe you have a little bit more of a competitive. Division usually that's you, know THE Nfc south and THE Afc south are just not. Good Here's Trevor lawrence on his thoughts during his go ahead touchdown on the Stumble rooski just.

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Speaker 8: Panic honestly BECAUSE i was trying to get up to get the. Ball out of my hands to the. CLOCK i, mean we didn't have any, timeouts so just. TRY i was really going to just stand up and like launch it out of the back of the end. Zone but THEN i had a little bit of a, lane SO i took it and you, know scored from.

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Speaker 2: There it was interesting to see. Him HE'S i think he shocked that he fell. Down nobody tackled. Me i'm going to get back. Up now what DO i? Do and all of a, sudden to the left he saw there was an opening, there AND i think he was just kind of, GOING i THINK i can get To i'm going to score a. Touchdown. Yes.

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Speaker 5: God he actually stumbled twice on that. Play when is it?

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Speaker 10: Enough but be able to gather himself after two trips and not give up on the play was pretty, impressive all.

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Speaker 2: Right when we come, back by the, way preseason basketball last, night Ow Cooper flagg was in action last. Night Victor Wimbin yama in action last. Night cooper looked. Awesome. Awesome wemby is going to be he, Is he's going to take over THE. Nba are you calling that right? Now i'm calling Calling victor Woman, yum it's going to be a. PLAYER i think he's going to be THE. Mvp how's THAT'S i don't know how good the team's going to. BE i think that he. Is i'm just watching somebody that. TALL i think he grew in the off. Season he might be seven to. Six but he's handling the, ball he's great, passes he's shooting threes. AGAIN i mean he is a better skilled version of The joker as far as. HANDLE i, Mean joker still is the best player in the. Game But wemby is he's, here he is.

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Speaker 3: Him, Yes, paul if you have, Room i'd love to get on The wemby bus because he looks like he got the twenty pounds That zion.

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Speaker 2: Lost he looks.

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Speaker 3: Thicker it's a good work for.

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Speaker 2: Everybody And Cooper flagg looked. Great he was the point guard for a while last. Night some a block, shot some great, passes hit a couple of threes as. Well, YES i know it's only, preseason BUT i was kind of having a good time with.

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Speaker 2: Podcasts marvin part of his job his. Responsibilities every morning he'll look for interesting. Soundbites it could be a play by play, call it could be an answer from a coach or a manager or a. Player and So marvin played this On, monday and to our, Surprise fritzy had a problem With Dave simms Called dave is The yankee broadcaster And Vlad guerrero just hit A Grand. Slam Blue jays scored ten and thirteen runs in the first two. Games so this is the, call and then we'll bring In Dave. Sims so go, Ahead Marv.

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Speaker 5: Carrera that edition a two to one.

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Speaker 12: Count he's looking on the load right, here two One. Pitt he did big drive left field grand.

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Speaker 2: Slam So Dave sims kind enough to join us The yankees radio play by play voice On. Wfan, DAVE i don't know if you heard about this big. Controversy you know social media. Circles but you've been a broadcaster a long long, time And fritzi had a. Problem, fritzy would you? Explain first of, all great to see, You, dave but under these Certain, Yeah, fritzi would you like to Tell davey that the problem you had with his? CALL i will preface by saying THAT i have to.

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Speaker 7: Preference, NO i know a lot of the, time and we worked together in the early, nineties AND i will say WHEN i heard, that at the MOMENT i, was it made me, think how does a broadcaster that's doing a local teams, game how do you juggle a good, play especially in the?

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Speaker 5: Playoffs you, off this is.

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Speaker 2: Embarrassing what do you?

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Speaker 1: Want what do you want me to show? Him?

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Speaker 2: Todd tell him what you?

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Speaker 6: SAID i.

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Speaker 10: WAS i was disappointed because it sounded, like you, KNOW i don't how do you juggle The you, know you don't want to be a homer and obviously it's against The, yankees but it's a big home.

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Speaker 5: Run did you show a little?

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Speaker 10: MORE i don't know if enthusiasm is probably not the exact, word but that's a big play in a playoff. Game it happens to be against your team that you're calling games.

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Speaker 5: For so how do you capture?

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Speaker 2: That or HOW i have to finish my?

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Speaker 1: Son?

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Speaker 2: No, no you know you've had an. OPPORTUNITY i didn't finish my thought your word? Thought, No, No i'm not at All you had a. Chance, Okay, dave here was the thing you had the. Call fritzy thought you should have been more enthusiastic because even though it was The Blue, jays it was A Grand slam in the, postseason and he was surprised that you weren't. Enthusiastic hey, man we're down five.

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Speaker 12: Nothing we got our clocks tune the day. Before it had gone at the page two in game. Two here right at that, moment down five to, nothing and glad he's been hot as a, pistol AND i could see it. Coming i've been around baseball long, enough played it long, Enough dan yet like he, did certainly not at the highest, level BUT i know my baseball you could feel that. Coming And i'm not going to sit here as A yankee announcer go, hey woll you, Know Bro grant slap and we're, down nye nothing come. On you, Know i'm capturing the mood Of yankee. Fans, okay.

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Speaker 5: The on hom if you, want But i'm bringing the same emotion that those folks are having at.

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Speaker 12: Home AND i also you, know in the immortal words of h you, Know Race, scott who's one of the great minimalists in our business doing play by, play you, know Star dollar.

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Speaker 5: Touchdown that was my baseball version of.

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Speaker 2: It, YEAH i understood it that you're kind of you And Susan waldman are sort of prefacing that something bad could happen Because vlad is you, know he's locked, In so you kind of led us up to the. Moment and it was basically calling a shot and, gone, yeah, Gone and that was the mood. There but do you do you ever fight the urge of but you, know in fairness to What fritzie was, saying you know the. Usiasm it is a, playoff but you are calling for The, yankees the home, Team and If i'm tuning, in the last THING i want to hear is Damn dave sounded really excited That vlad hit A Grand slam in the. Postseason well to that, Point, dan you know it's.

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Speaker 5: INTERESTING i love. Baseball we all love. It we love it for the.

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Speaker 12: Excitement, uh you, know the juice that you get at a baseball, game particularly at this time of, year but anytime they're the regular.

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Speaker 5: SEASON i appreciate great.

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Speaker 12: Plays, now if a guy makes a heck of a play, defensively or makes a great catch the, outfield or he hits a bad pitch and he hits it out all out Of Ladd. Senior you Know i'm gonna, exclaim BUT i Clearly i'm pulling for The. Yankees and, now Granted i'm not doing a national broadcast WHERE i got to be trying to stay down the, MIDDLE i have no problem, going hey, MAN i GOT i got N y in my. HEART i had SEE i in my, HEART i got N y in my. Heart Now i'm for these guys to.

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Speaker 5: Pull you, know pull through with the.

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Speaker 12: VICTORY i have a ginormous, respect you, know for the, game AND i. DON'T i don't THINK i did it anything that, was you, know out of the ordinary by any. Start as a matter of, fact most of you, know family and friends and what. People i've heard from him and, said he sort of captured the. Moment that's how we.

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Speaker 2: Felt how about when you're the local announcer and you're critical of your, team like when when do you when is that window or door open? That, YEAH i should be able to be critical with the team that's employing.

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Speaker 5: Me you have to be you tell the, Truth tell the. Truth you. Know we've had.

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Speaker 12: Pictures i've seen a couple of pictures this year where it's like the pen relays to get from the dugout to the batter spox because there is there's no fear of getting maybe not, drilled but pitched. Inside you want to put batters in a, comfortable uncomfortable. Position And I've i've criticized some guys on the ball club for, that And i've done in the. Past guy makes a bad, play you, know tries to make a super star play out of A sometimes we should just eat the, Ball he's, saying because the fans are saying the same. Thing i'm telling the truth And i'm not making anything. Up bad plays a bad, play good, plays a good.

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Speaker 2: Play if The yankees get, swept finish that, sentence it's gonna, Stink it's gonna.

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Speaker 12: Hurt toronto's a very good ball. CLUB i have a tremendous respect for. Him AS i like to call, them the non bold face names that they have on their ball. Club you know about you Know, vladdie you know About George, springer but you're talking About David, schneider Alahndro Kirk.

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Speaker 5: KHY i JUST i love that.

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Speaker 12: Guy he's five, eight two sixty five and he's a great. Hitter Ernie, Clement Miles, Straw Addison. Barger these are guys that you, know the, mainstream not even a lot of the mainstream baseball. Fans they don't even know who these guys. Are And i've seen, them now what ten twelve times this. YEAR i know how good they. Are AND i think the And Kevin gosman Was outstaye and The Savage kid yesterday the other, day.

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Speaker 5: It's off the. Chart no hit ball for five and a, THIRD i, mean well eleven, Punching SO i, mean come, on so it would be a very big.

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Speaker 12: Disappointment at, Disappointment yankees tied With toronto for the type of the third best record in, baseball and if they get, swept that would just be.

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Speaker 2: Terried who's going to wear? This if they get? Swept who gets the? Blame?

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Speaker 5: Oh you pick a lot of. PEOPLE i don't want to leave anybody. OUT i don't.

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Speaker 12: KNOW i you know WHEN i WHEN i did my, top WHEN i was on a talk show radio AT fa in many moons, AGO i was big into that category SINCE i moved in to play by player all these last few. Years i'm not picking up brick bats or eggs and throwing. STUFF i, mean the team was, constructed it's a home run hitting, team and they've been out hit a home, Run so what is it eight to one and fourteen three in the playoff in the postseason then not hitting home? Runs and certainly the inning that will live in infamy was the sixth inning game one basis, loaded nobody out and score one run on a baseloaded walk that should have been at minimum of three run a three run. Inning SO i mean the, PLAYERS i guess you'd have to say any players don't. Performed they didn't.

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Speaker 5: Perform but you know, what it ain't over one team and the seventeen team came from. Behind that's What that's What i'm hanging my hat on right.

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Speaker 2: Now you worked In seattle for a long time with The mariners and now with The. Yankees who is YOUR mvp in The American?

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Speaker 12: LEAGUE i went With, judge BUT i got no beef If calf goes with. IT i went With judge because he leads to nineteen. Categories, Yes Cal catcher, runs the whole pitching staff does a great. Job he hit sixty freaking home.

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Speaker 5: RUNS i get.

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Speaker 12: THAT i get, That But judge's overall worth nineteen. Categories he's, leading and about four or five others he's right. Below AND i just think that that carries a heck of a lot of weight on and that led the way on a team that hits a ton of home, runs and he hit fifty home, runs and the fact that what is? It won the batting title and hit fifty plus home. Runs third guy to do, It fox And. Mantle so but, AGAIN i THINK i think it's gonna be a close.

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Speaker 5: VOTE i really.

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Speaker 2: Do, YEAH i do. Too any last words For, fritzie your former, friend former.

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Speaker 5: Friend No broncos beat my eagle. Son i'm probably more mad at him about that than. Then, Yeah fi's gonna.

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Speaker 2: Be, enthusiastic. THOUGH i want you to think about, this if you, know are you going to overcompensate with your call tonight that if we hits?

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Speaker 5: All why WOULD i do?

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Speaker 2: THAT i, KNOW i just you know the, pressure the pressure. Here fritzie's in your head all my, years, Man i've Had.

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Speaker 5: I've had a lot worse voices in my head Than.

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Speaker 2: Fritzy have fun, Tonight, Dave, Thanks, hey any?

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Speaker 5: Pleasure, Hey, dan thanks a. Lot good to see, him, Man And, hey a load of.

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Speaker 2: It.

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Speaker 5: Dan that's way to go. Boys you guys are.

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Speaker 2: Great That's Dave. Simms he'll be on the call For game Three Blue Jays yankees ON wfa on.

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Speaker 2: Live Springing christopher Mad Dog russo host A Mad Dog unleashed On SIRIUS Xm channel eedy, two and he's also On First. Take you can usually see him On First take Every wednesday with Steven a and tomorrow the season finale of ice TV's Nfl. Classics upon further. Review Nine, eastern it'll Be Phil simms With Kyle brent discussing The Super bowl between The giants and The. Broncos, chris good to see you. Again finish this. Sentence if The yankees get, swept.

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Speaker 6: What, yeah big.

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Speaker 5: Embarrassment good Job. Danny why's a?

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Speaker 6: Pleasure was going? NOWHERE i think you could have made a.

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Speaker 13: Case if they had lost The Red sox, again then maybe despite his contract, extension you could have made that. Case you, know he's had a lot of. Injuries he navigated the team pretty. Well good job there by Beating. Boston you, know maybe they ran into a buzzsail. Here you, Know i'm The yankees will probably chuck it up to you, know they were in a. Hole next year they got the young pitcher In, shittler throw in Cole. Back you still Have wrdon sitting there With. Freed you know they'd be a little better. Off but, again this would be another year where The yankees, don't you, know go they here's the bottom.

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Speaker 6: Line since two thousand and, nine they won One World series. Game that's. IT i Mean you can debate this anytime you.

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Speaker 13: Want this is The, yankees who have the biggest payroll in baseball and right there with The, dodgers and they won One World series game in fifteen, years and chances all they won't win another one this.

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Speaker 6: Year BECAUSE i do think you AND i probably.

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Speaker 5: You love the.

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Speaker 6: BASEBALL i think The Blue jays will probably figure out a.

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Speaker 13: Way to win another, game and then The yankees is going to lose the divisional series To toronto and that is going to.

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Speaker 6: Sting BUT i don't think there's going to be any drastic.

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Speaker 13: CHANGES i think they're relatively pleased with how the year went based on Losing Coal. Boone the fans don't Like, boone but The yankee brass loves, them so From, matthew he's a good representative for them of you, know his good media. Guy he sends the message, correctly he listens to what they wanted to, do so he's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 6: EITHER i think they're chalking. Up they ran into a buzzsaw in His Blue jay.

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Speaker 2: TEAM i mentioned this in the first hour of the. Show there have been one hundred and eighty nine pitches of at least one hundred miles per hour in the. Postseason.

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Speaker 6: Wow, Wow, yes.

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Speaker 2: That's where we're. Headed that is that is analytics, Correct.

00:27:53
Speaker 6: That is, Analytics. Danny and there's too many.

00:27:55
Speaker 13: Relievers you, know it was so much fun to See scruble Against cleve and earlier in that series because he went seven eight, Innings crochet against The yankees when he pitched him to the bottom of the eighth last. Week the entertainment aspect of, baseball we've lost. It you AND i grew up With gibson with Sever you maybe With, kofax not, me but you maybe With kofax where you saw these big pitchers go out there and have to navigate a lineup the third time. Food Jim palmer's another one catfish hunter and that was always fun to see the Big hall Of, famer how he gets.

00:28:31
Speaker 6: Through you, know that big, three four five in the lineup in the eighth and ninth. Inning and you don't have that. ANYMORE i, mean, look what look of what has occurred?

00:28:39
Speaker 13: HERE i mean The yankees took out heel bottom of the third the other night with two. OUTS i mean the kid had a no hitter about the top of the sixth the other day In toronto in a sixth inning and they took him out of the game after seventy eight.

00:28:52
Speaker 6: Pitches boyd got taken out.

00:28:55
Speaker 13: Of the game against the In game one Against San diego after fifty eight.

00:28:58
Speaker 6: PITCHES i, mean it's just the way it.

00:29:00
Speaker 5: Is it's.

00:29:00
Speaker 13: Unfortunate they've ruined the aspect of, it the entertainment aspect of. It you AND i and most fans can't pick. Out you can't pick these relievers out of a. Lineup yet they dominate these games in a, sixth, seventh, eighth or ninth.

00:29:13
Speaker 6: Inning you, know it is the way it. Is it's you, Know baseball needs to fix. IT i don't know how they're going to do.

00:29:18
Speaker 13: It the analytics have become more important than the entertainment aspect of the, sport and it's a. Problem that's why it was good to see The yankee right hander pitch in the eighth, inning ninth inning In game, three when eight innings in that.

00:29:29
Speaker 6: Game there's something. Different it was something fun.

00:29:32
Speaker 13: Again the great, pitcher the, starter watching him perform late in these playoff games when you.

00:29:39
Speaker 6: AND i were growing up was.

00:29:41
Speaker 13: Theater and we've lost out in the sport and it's a major, problem and baseball knows.

00:29:46
Speaker 6: It i'm not sure what they can do about, it though they know, it they know it's a.

00:29:49
Speaker 2: Problem but you, know The dodgers starting staff has been. Great it's their bullpen that's. Terrible terrible they're starting and that has been, unbelievable, right and that's you, know.

00:30:01
Speaker 13: That's the weakness that The dodgers. HAVE i was lose surprised last. Night h'm bringing a kid From japan a little earlier in that ninth. Inning you think he wanted to try trying to see if he can get three outs with a three to one, lead so to get him back on. Track But snell comes out after six. Innings but if The dodgers have a, buggaboo that's. It if The dodgers are going to, lose it's going to be that you, know, eighth, ninth seventh innings where they're going to lose a terrible.

00:30:25
Speaker 6: Game and last night could have been that.

00:30:26
Speaker 13: GAME i mean last, NIGHT i, mean let's face, It snell comes, out they got a thorn up in, lead and you, know if they don't make.

00:30:33
Speaker 6: A great player in that, bunt who knows they might lose our.

00:30:37
Speaker 13: Historically bad game blowing a four one lead in the ninth and maybe they show some vulnerability to get a little.

00:30:42
Speaker 6: Nervous philadelphia feels good about. Themselves they get to split it, home and you, know we have a situation where The dodgers gonna beet picked.

00:30:49
Speaker 13: Off now you, know they're up too. Old they're going to figure out a way to win another game and they're gonna win that. Series The dodgers, issue as you just, said is that short relief in that, seventh, eighth and ninth. Inning and now we'll see maybe this twenty one year old is gonna be the. Answer they spend the game two on and fifty, million and he did a great job In game, one so maybe they have corrected that. TOO i, mean The dodgers are you, know they. Don't they're a great. TEAM i, Mean, dan think about their.

00:31:15
Speaker 6: Team they are top three and the lineup is. Tremendous then you Got.

00:31:19
Speaker 13: Taoska ernandez Kick hernandez gets big, Hits Will, smith who's.

00:31:24
Speaker 6: Hurt we all know how good he. Is let's throw On Max.

00:31:27
Speaker 13: Muncy and then they have you, know guys like Snell, yamamoto Old Tani.

00:31:32
Speaker 6: Oh and by the, way Here's glasnow making two of. Them mallion a pitch him In game. FOUR i, mean they are a, great great. Team let's be.

00:31:38
Speaker 2: Honest talking to. You christopher Mad Dog russo Mad Dog unleashed On SIRIUS Xm channel eighty, two and he's one of the host co hosts of ESPN's First. TAKE i thought about you on this topic that we use championships as a metric for greatness for quarterbacks AND nba, players but we don't do that for baseball. Players Why, YEAH i.

00:32:00
Speaker 13: Mean because you, Know Ted williams never won a, title but he only gets up four times a, Game and is it his fault that they never had any tremendous starting. Pitching you, Know cob never won a title With detroit and he's one of the all time. Greats never won a, title lost a couple Of World. Series, YEAH i mean it is a little. TRICKY i, mean you Know, madden he never won a championship with The. YANKEES i think it's because the pitcher dominates so. Much so if we look at baseball from from an eight man, perspective we don't look at.

00:32:32
Speaker 6: It that way because there's not as much impact they can have on a.

00:32:35
Speaker 13: Game with the baseball debate about the Great hall Of famer in the big. Spot we do it to pitching because he's going to get the ball a couple of times in a short. Series and that is WHERE i have always had some trouble With, kershaw Because kershaw he's won a. TITLE i, Mean kershaw is a tremendous regular season, pitcher but if you look At kershaw in the, postseason.

00:32:58
Speaker 6: He's been very.

00:32:58
Speaker 13: Mediocre he's got a four four to FIVE, Era he's given up thirty home runs in his postseason, starts and he has never been a great postseason. Performer that is the one guy that you can label like the, quarterback like the center in, basketball that for whatever the, reason his regular season prowess doesn't translate into the. Postseason and he did win a title in twenty twenty in the in the pandemic and Beat, tampa and he pitched pretty well in that.

00:33:30
Speaker 6: Run he pitched good In game.

00:33:31
Speaker 13: Five but we don't look at it the same way because the everyday Player, danny as you, know doesn't have the same influence on a game as the starting pitcher. Has so when we look at it in, baseball if you want to grade.

00:33:46
Speaker 6: The starting you, Know maddix was never great in the. Postseason.

00:33:49
Speaker 13: No, three seven four lifetime era never great in the, postseason and that's why a.

00:33:54
Speaker 6: Guy like, Smokes and that's why a guy like you, know to a certain degree.

00:33:58
Speaker 13: Shilling that's that's why you know you'd like to have them in a big game because you're confidence in them in a big. Spot their regular season isn't as, good but you know in a big game you can rely on. It SO i think it's more the pitcher that you discuss more than the everyday.

00:34:13
Speaker 2: PLAYER i got into it With Peter. King we kind of went back and forth on The hall Of fame and we were talking, about you, know that Is Russell wilson playing himself out of The hall Of, Fame AND i, said you, Know Matthew stafford has one Super bowl win AND i think he was a pro bowler one. Time russ got to Two Super bowls and he was A pro bowler ten. Times so his regular season stats are better Than Eli. Mannings but so it Feels manning's going. In people don't debate, that But russ is playing his way out of The hall Of. Fame do you?

00:34:50
Speaker 13: Agree, yeah that's a very that's going to be a very close. VOTE i think that pass hurts him. Too the interception against The. Patriots you, know With malcolm bum one of the.

00:35:01
Speaker 6: Worst it Hurts Pete.

00:35:02
Speaker 13: Carroll it's one of the worst players of all, time and he throws a pick which wouldn't won A Super.

00:35:06
Speaker 6: BOWL i think that is a little bit of a. Factor you, know he's been on a million. Teams.

00:35:10
Speaker 13: Now you, Know denver didn't work, Well The giants hasn't worked, Well pittsburgh didn't work, well ended poorly In. SEATTLE i think that's a problem. TOO i think your point About stafford is. Fair he's very underrated. HISTORICALLY i, mean he was on a Bad detroit. TEAM i, understand you, Know god played well for The, lions but he was on a Bad lions.

00:35:30
Speaker 6: Team he's done a great job for The. Rams he plays well in big.

00:35:33
Speaker 13: Games you know last year they had The eagles beat he played, great played well in The Super, bowl played well two years ago In detroit in the playoff. Game stafford's very underrated, historically and he's going to be A hall Of. Famer And, Manning danny is about five. Games let's be. Honest manning is about a game in two games In Green. Bay it's about a game In San, francisco and it's a two games Against. Brady that Is manning's career now five at games Beat, brady especially the second one you, know got beat up against The niners was, great you, Know Green bay and minus two degree.

00:36:08
Speaker 6: Weather he out played far he and he won two. Titles so and he did it In New, york which you know is a big factor.

00:36:16
Speaker 13: Too very few quarterbacks outside Of, plunkett you know who didn't get he's not going to make The hall Of.

00:36:22
Speaker 6: Fame but if you win Two Super, bowls chances all you're gonna make. It and he did it In New, york and he Beat brady.

00:36:28
Speaker 13: Twice but his, career if you look At manning and you'd be fair about, it his career comes down to five.

00:36:33
Speaker 6: Games now they're postseason. Games they come down to five.

00:36:36
Speaker 13: Games wilson's a better regular season quarterback Than, manning but not the postseason. Success stafford is a better quarterback Than, manning but not the postseason per success. Too and you AND i probably if my life came down to, IT i would definitely Take stafford Over.

00:36:53
Speaker 6: Manning would you Take wilson Over? Manning game the win field? Life who would you Take wilson Or. Manning, Hmmm i'd probably Take. MANNING i probably.

00:37:06
Speaker 2: Would, well let me throw this.

00:37:07
Speaker 6: OUT i wouldn't take it to.

00:37:09
Speaker 2: Myself If David tyree doesn't make that, Catch, chris they don't win the. Game, yeah so like that's he didn't go to The hall Of. FAME i agree with.

00:37:18
Speaker 6: You excellent.

00:37:20
Speaker 2: Point and the and the and the first win in The Super bowl was the defensive. Front they. Crushed that was.

00:37:26
Speaker 6: It, yeah they and he won THE mvp in that, Game.

00:37:29
Speaker 2: Manning and, yeah but he shouldn't have been you know that he should be the defensive line, absolutely.

00:37:34
Speaker 13: Very much Like brady's first year Against Saint. Louis, yes he shouldn't have won THE mvp, Either Vena terry could have. Wonted the defense did a great job On, warner but the quarterback gets to. Break but you are one hundred percent. Right you can make a very strong case That David tyree is the Reason eli is going to be in The hall Of. Fame, yeah because One Super bowl would not do. It it would have taken it needs eat his body of work needs a second, title and he got, it and he got. It that turned out to be his first.

00:38:05
Speaker 6: Title but he got it.

00:38:06
Speaker 13: Now he did a great job in the. Play he dodged the. Rush he you, know he found the open. Man he did score two touchdowns in the fourth quarter with his. Offense they were what was the, SCORE i think it was seven to three maybe whatever the score. WAS i mean he did have two drives in a fourth. Quarter Kevin boss caught the t, know the tight end quarter. Pass but you're right one hundred percent, Now but that goes back to the original. Question you had a game Of Dan patrick had a game for his? Life would you Take manning or would you Take Russell? Wilson if IF i.

00:38:44
Speaker 2: Get Russ, Seattle, Seattle, RUSS i would take.

00:38:49
Speaker 6: Him because of his running and things like.

00:38:52
Speaker 2: That, yes he was the best player on the field in that, game That Super bowl that he. Lost New england had no answer for. Him he was unbelievable in that. Game and it's you, know do you agree That Pete carroll And Darryl bevill wanted him to be THE mvp and Not Marshawn. Lynch you call the pass, play it's like we Blame russell instead of Crediting Malcolm butler with an unbelievable play And russ why you would call that instead of a run pass, Option, LIKE i don't, KNOW i don't understand. It but you, know if you, Well Pete, CARROLL i agree with you on that.

00:39:28
Speaker 6: Point Pete carroll's a number. One go to that. Game it's Not. WILSON i, mean.

00:39:33
Speaker 13: They called the wrong play and they got More Shawn lynch sitting. There so you're one hundred percent. Right wilson is not, That but he's number two Or bevil's, too take your. Pick the coaches are, one and then the quarterbacks. Too BUT i think that your other point is a good. POINT i think there all look at, manningly but he had a bad. Back but you get the idea sometimes how you and your, career if you're a Borderline hall Of, famer more important than what you did in your. Career And wilson is going to end his, career you, know in a way that is not, impressive and that is going to be your lasting memory of him against you, know The steelers and The giants And denver And peyton And Sean peyton got him out of, there and he didn't finish well In, seattle AND i think because of, that we seem to forget for an eight or nine year period he was a great, quarterback and you are, right he was, great.

00:40:29
Speaker 6: But the last three or, four four or five he's been very.

00:40:34
Speaker 13: Average manning ended his career with the same, team and the lasting impression Of manning in a lot of ways And Troy. Aikman we even brought it up last, night was The mario manningham pass which Beat.

00:40:47
Speaker 6: Brady he mentioned it in the game last.

00:40:48
Speaker 13: Night so as a result of, THAT i think that you, KNOW i Think, manning you know you don't have a bad taste in your. Mouth now do you agree with? Me go back to pitching for a. Second, NOW i know everybody Loves, kershaw but do you agree with me That kershaw's postseason almost gets forgotten because he's been so good in the regular season and the average baseball fan doesn't realize that he's been a bad postseason. Pitcher you Think i'm being too harsh, there or do you think there's a good point to be.

00:41:17
Speaker 2: MADE i heard you say this on your show and it felt like you were going out of your way to He did you felt? That? Yeah, yeah because you Know maddix And glavin weren't good postseason. PITCHERS i, agree and we don't mention that very often about those two. Guys And maddox won three hundred and fifty four. GAMES i Mean, Kershaw, yes that that is, bad bad, numbers bad, Numbers but when you win that. TITLE i Mean, maddox they won One World, series so that's. IT i Mean, kershaw JUST i don't understand. This there's certain guys that were great in the, postseason and they were good in you, Know Jack mooreus Or smoltz Or. Shilling they just love the moment AND i you, KNOW i just have great appreciation for. Them but, yeah it did feel like you. Were, WELL i gotta be careful with.

00:42:09
Speaker 6: That dad just said.

00:42:10
Speaker 13: THAT i take when you tell me, That i'll be careful And i'll be fair About. Kershaw and, WELL i know you got to, run But i'll be fair On. Kershaw you know the old.

00:42:19
Speaker 6: Eye you know what happened In game five in twenty and. Seventeen you can't use.

00:42:22
Speaker 13: IT i, mean supposedly that's when The astros are cheating folks with your. Cans and supposedly they laid To Tom perducci told me this and he would. Know supposedly they laid off thirty eight. Sliders in the game and he got. Bombed in that game they lost thirteen. Twelve they laid off thirty eight. Sliders now did they lay off the thirty eight slidders or they know where they were. Coming if that's the, case maybe Give kershaw a big. BREAK i don't know how you feel about, it but that's But.

00:42:49
Speaker 2: CHRIS i ran into somebody who was in The astros organization this summer and he said That kershaw was tipping his. Pitches so we actually that was his. Argument, yes he, said we knew BECAUSE i talked about the. Cheating he, goes, No, kurson who was tipping his? PITCHES i, said but you guys still. Cheated he, said, yes, yes well then you gotta.

00:43:12
Speaker 13: Trust so then the question, becomes do you trust a guy who told you that or is he trying to protect.

00:43:17
Speaker 6: His team from not taking something away from that Grand.

00:43:23
Speaker 2: It is great to see, You thanks again for enjoying the. Baseball That's christopher Mad Dog russo