2026 NFL Win Totals First Thoughts with Seth Payne

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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we'd love to throw out a first pitch at a baseball game and do it better than Malik Willis.

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal in my garage.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to one of our favorite regular guests from outside the NFL Daily world. It is Seth Payin, former defensive lineman extraordinay for the Texans in Jags. He's the Seth Payne Show on YouTube. He hosts Pain and Pendergast on six' ten am In. Houston welcome to the. Show are you ready to carry us?

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Speaker 2: Today i'm.

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Speaker 3: So i'm so ready to carry you to. Greatness i'm the pregame prep. SHOW Pep talk was just incredible about, You. Seth, well there's really not a whole lot to talk, about SO i figured i'd bring you.

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Speaker 1: In, no THAT'S i didn't mean bring you. In What i'm saying is we might as well have you the whole. Show usually we'd have you fly in for fifteen or twenty.

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Speaker 2: Minutes you're.

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Speaker 1: Busy But i'm Like, seth even though he's done four hours of radio, today he can stretch his legs or. Whatever he'd be great to talk about. It Fernanda mendoza learning how to play under.

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Speaker 3: Center you're gonna bring me in at one eight one Pm eastern that on a getaway. Day hell, yeah, yeah this IS i am your getaway day.

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Speaker 4: Lineup stop.

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Speaker 1: That It's, monday it's the it's the start of a big. Week we'll be still posting and taping every day this, week but we will start with a little bit of news and Then SETH i thought would be a fun person to do it exercise later in the, show we're gonna Have Eric, roberts our, producer has gotten the graphics. Ready he's going to post the win totals projected In vegas for all thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Teams we'll go division by.

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Speaker 1: DIVISION i have purposely not looked at these at all this, offseason AND i just thought it'd be a fun first. Reaction And seth AND i will, just you, know just quick reactions of like what consensus is looking, like how people see the favorites in each, division and we'll, react but we.

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Speaker 2: Will we will start with the. News, seth you look too.

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Speaker 3: SURPRISED i, KNOW i just you, know usually when you bring me, on it's a like we talked about The texans either win or, losing or. Something but now, this this is going to be something where fifty percent of the people watching will hate me afterwards WHEN i take the under on their. Team SO i appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Too, well we, know, yeah we're not going to go through every team and say over and or, more just like first thoughts of, oh that's interesting because there's the first TIME i look at. It it's sometimes things stand. Out but we will run through a little bit of news. Quickly the final fifth year options have been, decided and there was a yes On Bryce, young which we knew. About there was a no On Anthony richardson that was an obvious.

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Speaker 2: No some other.

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Speaker 1: Nos Broderick jones to tackle from The. Steelers they will not pay him nineteen million dollars in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Seven that makes.

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Speaker 1: Sense No Deontay, banks he will not make twelve point six million dollars the cornerback for The. Giants it was a no For felix and a d Kue uzama Edg rusher for The chiefs that has not worked out for them at all is barely. Played that would have been fourteen point four million. Dollars and then a couple of the YESES i found Interesting dalton And kaid gets a, yes eight point one, million that's, cheap and Then lucas Van ness gets a. YES Edg dresher for The packers maybe the only surprise out of that big group that was a lot of names, There seth is there one of all those names that stands out to you as interesting in terms of just how their career has gone or the decision.

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Speaker 3: Being made Into Anthony RICHARDSON i think is still fascinating to me.

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Speaker 4: Because he's just such a freak of nature and including his. Arm you. Know the frustrating thing.

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Speaker 3: Is because so few people actually watch THE Afc south. Largely we would Watch Anthony richardson play a lot of complete football, games except for the ones in which he took himself out and he'd make these incredible throws and you'd see the highlights and people would, say, OH i thought he wasn't an accurate, Quarterback, like, no, yeah you're not seeing the ones that he airmails into the third row of the. Stands he was a horribly, inaccurate just the disgustingly, inaccurate with the ability to make some incredible plays at. TIMES i but he's been beset by. Injuries the entire time his entire, career which you could have expected by the fact that he was beset by injuries from high school on through. College but there's still something. There and now that he's not in the, Division i'm pulling for the. Kid i'd like to see him make a go of it.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere, yeah it was almost a reminder, like, Oh Anthony richardson never got. TRADED i kind of forgot about. That he's still on that, roster so just someone to. Watch he did have some, oukay he has the next level, highlights but he did have some next level plays where it's like he's going through his reads and like throwing over the middle of the field that you get excited. About but you're, right there were too many ground balls to the wide receivers and ones flying over their. Heads but he's twenty three years, Old like he's still like two and a half years younger than Bo. Nicks it's, Like, okay let's see SOME qb guru like mcveighe at.

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Speaker 2: Him that's WHAT i. Wanted and then instead they know draft.

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Speaker 3: Well knowing the whole thing about him is, like, yeah he's in my, mind he's off the. Roster he is that guy that as much AS i was skeptical of his ability to actually play stuff arding quarterback in THE, nfl it was terrifying to play against them because he is capable of making those incredible, throws of those incredible, runs and like that part of, it that untapped, upside if you could do it with, consistency is pretty, amazing if you could harness all the other stuff in.

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Speaker 1: So van ness has been a disappointment for The, packers but they keep. Him they are really bad at edge rush going into the. Season he might be their, starter but let's move. ON i Mentioned ana d Kue uzama for The. Chiefs kind of a bus so far for. Him they draft a couple linemen trying to improve their defense to help the twenty twenty sixth. Group AND i saw this report From Andy reid talking last week About Patrick mahomes AND i was, Like, oh, yeah maybe the greatest quarterback to enter the league in my lifetime is coming off of tourn Acl it's a little like something we haven't talked about at. All AND i was surprised to hear That Andy reid said That Patrick mahomes should be good to go for late May OTAs because they're not going against a. DEFENSE i know it's not real, football but he actually said coming off the TORN acl late last season that he should be out, there and it was just a reminder, like, oh, yeah this is going to be something we're tracking throughout training, camp and guys come off torn acls quicker than. Ever who knows when he'll be ready for quote unquote full. Contact you, know you wouldn't expect him to be even fully practicing necessarily in training, camp but the fact that he's out there FOR ota is JUST i just wanted to put that out.

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Speaker 2: There that seems notable for one of the greatest Quarterbacks i've ever.

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Speaker 3: Seen that, no AND i think at least gives you some insight into, okay the you, know when you tear more than one, ligament when it's more than just THE, acl that things can get pretty.

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Speaker 4: Complicated so it there probably.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't any cartilage damage and other like if It's if that's where he is right, NOW i think the chances of him start In week one seem pretty. Reasonable and then you can just go back to all the old questions he had about The chiefs during the first two thirds of last, season like who's going to get open on third. Down but That i'm a little Bit i'm intrigued by him perhaps really just kind of being on a chip on his shoulder type of mode that he hasn't had to be in in a. While that not that he was ever lazy or didn't have an edge to him or anything like. That but if you just get that amped up version of a guy that feels like he's got something extra to, prove that they could end, up you, know they could end up surpassing whatever the expectations are right.

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Speaker 1: Now, well here's what they've never. Done has been coming off a losing. Season, yeah you, know it was a kind of an embarrassing season For Patrick mahomes even before he tores acl not, personally but just he is not used to. Losing And Rashie rice looks like he's going to be out. THERE i kind of personally just wanted to see justin fields in An Andy reid offense for a couple of, weeks.

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Speaker 2: So we'll have time to talk about in.

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Speaker 1: Camp but it wouldn't shock me if they still roll out fields for a week or two and just play it as safe as. Possible that would have been fun to. Me that is a wild room. Though Mahomes Field, NUSSMEYER i just like that that. Trio, no they tried like hell to make Nus meyer a.

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Speaker 3: Story they were thinking about the reclaiming the glory of the last year's draft where they made it all about Shud Or, sanders the entire. Draft and you, Know i've melt through.

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Speaker 4: In a little. SOMETHING i can't believe Nuts meyer's as late as he. Is this, was but you. Can't you can't RECAPTURE.

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Speaker 2: I, LIKE i don't.

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Speaker 1: KNOW i, Mean i'm no, expert but to, me if there's a difference between him and Ty, simpson it's a small.

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Speaker 2: One to, me they're in the same.

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Speaker 1: Ballpark Of, like, YEAH i could see that person being like a high level. Backup it it could work out or even better in A sean McVay. System BUT i guess the rest of the league disagreed with.

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Speaker 3: Me you know the thing About Andy, reid if it is just for a couple of games with justin, fields that is the. Classic oh, Great Andy reid's been in a. Lab you, know whether it's the bye week or opening, week, whichever Whenever Andy reid gets a little extra time to, Prepare, YEAH i could totally see him just you, know running rough shot over the first couple weeks of Whoever Justin fields faces until they figure out exactly how they're using. Them so that's when the schedule release comes. Out what next? Week that'll be?

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Speaker 4: Interesting usually it's next.

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Speaker 1: Week i've been put on alert to be ready to tape a show for next.

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Speaker 2: Week we'll be doing.

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Speaker 1: One but they don't know. Anything it's not. Information it's just give me let me tweet it.

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Speaker 4: Out. Man it's like a nugget. Hussy for a. Minute here the people a nugget.

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Speaker 2: Hussy that's an amazing let's.

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Speaker 4: Call it a nugget. Hussy long before these recent.

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Speaker 1: Events, yeah BEAR I i we act in the building, that you, know like we have to plan the show for next. Week but we're finding out like everyone, else it's just that's the week they've done it the last two.

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Speaker 2: Years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah But Mike, north for what it's, worth the guy who makes the, schedule warned on some media. Appearance well it could be the week after that. Too it's all up To. Roger if he's not happy with the. Schedule they're selling A tv package that could delay. It so what we'll find. Out let's move On eric made fun of me That i'm actually wanting to bring up the jersey sales in the news, today BUT i just thought this WAS i don't know, why BUT i FIND i know where you're going with. THIS i don't know Where i'm. Going, well ACTUALLY i do know Where i'm. Going there's a few. Things first of, all The cowboys just shout out to their fans, for you, know representing people make fun of them for Being america's. Team, well then you Get Caleb downs as the number one jersey sales, guy and more, impressively you Get Malachi lawrence as the number three jersey sales guy in the entire. League shout out to The hispanic community down In. Miami who's Got Jacob rodriguez as the number two jersey sales guy in the entire, league a second round, linebacker and The Texas tech. Fans that's pretty. Awesome but here's what gets. Crazy Fernanda mendoz a. Five Drew aller number. Four that is Where i'm. Going Drew aller with The, steelers The Penn state fans just going. Big mike, McCarthy he got his. Guy It's Drew.

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Speaker 3: Aller that's a commitment to your alma mater there because.

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Speaker 4: Those are expensive jersey easy, MAN i thought you were going to go with.

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Speaker 3: That there are so many defensive players at the top of, it and which kind of coincides with some of the weirdness of this draft this.

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Speaker 1: Year, yeah the rest of it Is Chris Johnson dolphins just have a lot of fans that the cornerback that went to The, Dolphins Jeremiah, love is down at. Seven it's kind of a bad job at The, cardinals or maybe they're not really much of a national. Team Caleb, lomu WHO i think sold some extra jerseys with that dance that he was doing when he got. Drafted the video of. It D lent the nimen was nine And David bailey. Ten so, yeah a lot of. Defenders i'll tell.

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Speaker 4: You there is something about The.

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Speaker 3: Cardinals AND i know you've Got cardinals fans that watch, this but not nearly as many as there probably should. Be when The texans played The cardinals last, YEAR i usually go through AND i try to see what the you, know what the film watchers Like Greg cassel and all those people are saying about or are saying about the upcoming. Opponent and my, god it was so hard to find anything on The. Cardinals it was like they just like they didn't even. Exist AND i felt bad For cardinals fans because that's it's fun to hear your team talked about ON Nfl network and what's they've been.

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Speaker 4: THROUGH a.

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Speaker 2: Lot were really high on them going into last year we were on this.

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Speaker 1: Show we were wrong about. That just thought they would they would be, frisky and.

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Speaker 2: You feel for.

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Speaker 1: HIM i feel it's Like clippers, Fans like everyone makes fun Of clippers fans In chargers, fans And i'm here In ellie AND i like go to those games AND i know those. People and the thing is the fans that are fans of those, teams they're, real they. Exist there's there's plenty of them in their, hardcore and the people that stay. Away you can't blame them because they've been run by some of the worst ownership in all of major league. Sports so it's, like you, KNOW i understand it both. Ways stuck with.

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Speaker 3: THEM i am a believer in The cardinals in so far as they're in my.

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Speaker 4: Group of it's not it's not that. Bad it's it's it's, bad but it's not as bad as as people think it is that's.

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Speaker 2: FAIR i Mentioned mendoza was fifth The raiders fans buying those. Jerseys here he.

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Speaker 1: Was we have an actual football player talking in front of a podum podium after actually playing.

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Speaker 2: Football we were talking before the.

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Speaker 1: Show WHAT i was getting to seth about it was a quiet is there's actually a little dead zone here of just news for a couple of weeks because the draft happens and then for the most, Part O tas aren't, Starting they're not on the field for a couple of, weeks so there's not much. Interview you, know it's just it's just a little bit of a dead. Zone but we did have rookies practicing In. Vegas let's listen To Fernando mendoza at the.

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Speaker 5: PODIUM i believe it's the added footwork instead of being back there and shotgun and we have to get back to make sure you get that you can best serve your office, alignement still be on, time still decipher the, defense and with that actually have an emphasis on those first two, steps on securing the snap and getting out out of there and powerful with having quick.

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Speaker 1: Feet so he's talking about the difference of playing under. Center what as are you laughing from, that he's just so.

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Speaker 3: Expressive, YES i just LOVE i just want to. GO i want to go manufacture some. Widgets it just seem, like think you should have a power point up there behind.

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Speaker 2: Them, yeah that was the TIP i mentioned on the.

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Speaker 1: Show if you guys happened to listen last, week he, asked like a good, Student Nate tice Of, yahoo, well what do you THINK i should work? On after they got off camera And nate was this kind of just went for the obvious, one was, like, yeah you just got to do everything you can about the under center. Stuff just getting the footwork. Down it's going to take some real. Reps and here he.

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Speaker 2: IS i agree with.

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Speaker 1: YOU i think he's going to give really good football answers for those who want to actually listen to him answer.

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Speaker 4: Questions it.

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Speaker 3: Is it sounds like the simplest thing in the, world but it's not as much about taking the. Snap it's all the footwork that's tied to. It and In Clint kubiak's offense and like a lot Of West coast, offenses it's just everything is tied to the rhythm of your, footwork so you're getting not just taking the, snap but then on your.

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Speaker 4: Drops where you're going in your, reads.

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Speaker 3: On your third, step on your fourth, step on your fifth, step.

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Speaker 4: Like that part of.

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Speaker 3: It it's just it takes so many reps to get comfortable with, it AND i appreciate how they're handling him that he's probably not going to start the, season or at least that's their. Plan every single almost every single time people say that this guy's not going to start his rookie, year he ends up, starting so at some point he'll be out. There but he seems like the kind of kid that gets, it that understands that he's just got to get in get in those reps to get natural with.

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Speaker 1: IT i think part of it might be a real confidence In Klint kubiak in, hey we can Make Kirk cousins look pretty.

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Speaker 4: Good we.

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Speaker 1: Could we could get out of the gate actually playing pretty. WELL i think that lasts two or less, weeks maybe zero weeks If mendoza just has an incredible camp and looks ahead of. Schedule but they have they have a nice plan For, cousins WHO i think played pretty well at the end of last. SEASON a couple little bits of college. News brandon soorsby The Texas tech quarterback could be headed to the supplemental, Draft so just something to think about because he admitted to gambling in. College he has a lawyer trying that was the same lawyer that was involved Into, flategate trying to get him an extra year of eligibility in. College but if he goes to the, draft we could have some supplemental draft. CONTENT i think he'd be like a mid round. GUY i had Some jets fans being, like do would they have to give up their, one one of their ones next year for? It it's, like, NO i. Don't it doesn't sound like. It BUT i think he might be like a third or fourth round, pick which you know he's a, quarterback and'd give us something to talk.

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Speaker 3: About do you what was his role in the Deflay gates. Stuff was he on the side of the Of Tom brady or on THE nfl.

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Speaker 2: OR i think he was on the side of the player on the side of The.

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Speaker 4: Patriots, now, yeah that would make. Sense we wouldn't know his name if he was in house counsel or.

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Speaker 1: Something, Yes so that that's just something to watch and then, Look Deuce Jones drew and we don't normally do signing like in terms of commitments from a high school player to the college front news on this, show BUT i had to show my son On sunday. Morning fourth high at fourth or fifth highest in THE Espn news stack of the biggest sports stories in the country Was Deuce Jones drew committing TO. Ucla AND i said to my On, walker here is the only person that you've ever had lunch with that's in the stack OF espn dot. Com Because maurice once brought his whole family and we had we all had lunch together In tokyo one, time and he was a very nice young, man and SO i just wanted to give up congratulations out The Duce Jones drew following in the father's footsteps going TO.

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Speaker 3: UCLA i, BET i Bet Maurice Jones drew is probably awesome with.

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Speaker 4: Kids. Huh he's a good.

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Speaker 1: Dude wait did you have part of the. Reason did you ever face? HIM i was, like you, guys cross.

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Speaker 4: Back. YEAH i THINK i was injured his rookie. YEAR i can't.

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Speaker 3: REMEMBER i was on the team with him for like two weeks during training camp and what would have been the last year of my.

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Speaker 2: Career did he go against did he go against?

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Speaker 3: Him now, now NO i. DID i was injured when he was still a young. Player i'll tell you, Honestly USUALLY i rely on my co host to tell me what happened to me during my. CAREER i don't remember a lot of, it and and IT'S i don't think it has anything to do with brain. TRAUMA i JUST i just don't remember these. THINGS i MEAN i.

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Speaker 1: Barely people tell me stories from college post college THAT i was there for and, sober And i'm just, like don't remember, that don't remember that at.

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Speaker 2: All that might be a bad sign for the.

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Speaker 3: FUTURE i was drunk during most of my, Games so that's that's the. DIFFERENCE i. Guess you know that STORY.

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Speaker 1: I, mentioned you, know thrown out the first pitch to start the. Show if you are watching on, YouTube you can See Malik willis's first pitch and, yeah this is probably how you, know it's a quiet time in THE nfl That i'm throwing this into the. Rundown but it was one of the funniest first pitches. Ever and he said after the fact that he slipped and that's why he overshot the catcher by about you, know thirty feet and, yeah ten feet to the. Left but he doesn't. Slip i'm looking at it and that's. Fine throwing a baseball is. HARD i could do that much, BETTER i, LIKE i don't think the pressure would get to.

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Speaker 2: ME i would do that much.

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Speaker 3: Better it's hard to adjust to the humidity down. There you, know the balls a little bit. Slicker they. DON'T i don't know if they had it in the human door. Beforehand but have you seen the clips Of Pat mahomes And Tom brady and.

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Speaker 2: Had a brutal.

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Speaker 1: One it's just. Different it's. Different speaking To, MAHOMES i mentioned the quarterback room. There, UH i feel. Bad Jake, kener a GUY i used to like what The saints, was was cut by The chiefs this. Morning this is this is the part of the off season where like some, guys you, know they even cut people, down you, know getting on a ninety man roster after the. Draft and so say so long To Jake, Heyner Jackson. DART i just wanted to. Know WHEN i was checking out The Kentucky derby for a little, bit some of the HIGHLIGHTS nbc had him as best dressed on The Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: Derby so just good for.

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Speaker 4: Him shout, out.

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Speaker 1: Shout out To Jackson dart is just. Repord i'm, like, oh he must be from. There it's, like, no he's From. Utah but he looks like a guy who just knows what to do with The Kentucky derby wrapping up, Here Dwan jones took a pay cut for The. BROWNS i thought that was interesting because it's basically making no. Money they were ready to just cut him if he wasn't willing to take a pay. Cut so he's no longer a starter. There they Hired Trent. Balkie Trent boukie's back in the. League david And joku visited The chargers and Then happy trails TO. Pj, walker who on this show people, KNOW i always like to point, out completed one of the greatest throws in the history of THE.

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Speaker 2: Nfl we're gonna watch and listen to it right, Now.

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Speaker 4: Walker hut first. Out we'll get to us, left and Now walker fires downfield looking FOR Dj.

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Speaker 6: Moore oh.

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Speaker 4: Time to catch Pro panthers. Touchdown whoa sixty two Yards carolina touch tied the. Game oh my.

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Speaker 2: Goodness jonathan Vill vilma on the.

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Speaker 1: Call that's like sixty seven or eight yards in stride in the air while rolling left with under twenty seconds left to win the. Game and WHENEVER i bring up this point, THAT i was, like that's that's top, Five like best throw of the.

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Speaker 2: Century, people that's, ridiculous THAT'S.

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Speaker 4: Pj.

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Speaker 1: Walker it's just, like, no but if you just look at that, Throw CONGRATULATIONS.

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Speaker 2: Pj.

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Speaker 3: Walker he was here In houston with The Houston roughnecks of THE xfl at the time OR ufl whatever it was at the. Time, yeah and they WERE i think it WAS covid and they would HAVE i think they won The Fictitious championship because they had to cancel this. Season so good job for that.

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Speaker 1: Too undersized guy with a massive arm gets nine years.

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Speaker 2: In that is tough to.

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Speaker 1: DO i was at A colt's training camp practice WHERE i think he was.

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Speaker 2: Battling for the number three.

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Speaker 1: Job back Then Scott tolzen was in that, mix and that was like eight years ago or. SOMETHING i was there for A Frank gore. Feature so, yeah happy trails TO Pj walker for hanging. In let's take a quick, break seth and we're going to get to the meat of this, show which is the over. Under so The vegas sets the wind totals for every team and it just gives us a little bit of a window into who are the, favorites who's not what content is going to look. Like we will react blindly right after the.

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Speaker 6: Back ON Nfl.

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Speaker 2: Daily when you have a guest that does four hours of radio a, day you do feel like a little a little worse about.

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Speaker 3: It, NO i don't do any work at. All my co host is the one that does all the. Work i'm just a big. Goofball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah one of the best in the, Business Seth pain is gonna react to these over under wind totals. Blindly so this is an exercise we did last. YEAR i went back and checked it out with some of our first reactions were pretty good on what seemed odd and LIKE i forget and a lot of them are. Bad my win total guessing was poor last. Year so this is more just like less about like what we would do BECAUSE i work for THE, NFL i am not allowed to wager at, all and more just, Like, okay this is who's going to be the favorites this year and some first. Thoughts so we're getting these numbers from, DraftKings we're seeing them from the first. Time And eric put up THE Afc east we will start With obviously there's two big favorites in this division and two. Lagging so we got The bills at ten and a half as the division, favorites The patriots at nine and a, half The jets at five and a, half and actually The dolphins expected to be worse than The jets four and a half in terms of their over underwin.

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Speaker 2: TOTAL i will get a little boring.

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Speaker 1: About out of division schedule in a, second BUT i will throw it to you seth of just anything that stands out to you.

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Speaker 2: THERE i think.

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Speaker 3: THAT i, mean, obviously The patriots strength of schedule was a huge talking point all season, long And patriots fans are sick and tired of. It UNTIL i SEE Aj brown and where he ends. Up it's hard for me not to think that there's going to be a little bit of a fallback with a much tougher schedule this. Year BUT i think that they're probably going to get the receiver they, want AND i would go the over the over on The.

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Speaker 1: Patriots, yeah so when it comes to the, SCHEDULES i didn't think any division had like a completely brutal.

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Speaker 2: Schedule.

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Speaker 1: YEAH i looked at it, like first of, all THE Nfc north to, me and THE Nfc west are the two best. Divisions they do not play each, other so they sort of avoid like the schedule of. Death the hardest divisions though in terms of strength to, schedule and if you just think about the, divisions to.

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Speaker 2: Me were THE Afc, east they would be in that.

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Speaker 1: Mix out of, division they play THE Nfc, north which is really good one to, four and then they play THE Afc, west which obviously has The chiefs and The chargers and The. Broncos that's a pretty tough. Schedule you do have The jets And dolphins though in the, division so that. Helps THE Nfc, WEST i think is a hard schedule just because they have to play each. Other they also face THE Nfc east And. West that's THE Afc, west that's, okay and then THE Afc west has to face THE Nfc west out of. Division so to, me those are like three of the tougher. Divisions The dolphins being projected as potentially the worst team in THE nfl with a four and a half win, total that checks out to. ME i think The jets are better on, paper.

00:25:06
Speaker 4: And it would be it would stand to suit.

00:25:08
Speaker 3: That, okay The dolphins owner has never been shy about allegedly wanting to lose a lot of games in.

00:25:14
Speaker 4: A year where they. Should The Malik willis.

00:25:15
Speaker 3: Thing is the only thing that throws everything into question WHERE i don't understand other than they might just figure, okay maybe we'll see and figure out Whether Malik willis could possibly be the guy even though we're losing a bunch of. Games but AND i don't think he's going to be like The Ryan fitzpatrick that comes in and you, know wins more games than they're supposed to when they're trying to.

00:25:36
Speaker 4: Tank it's.

00:25:37
Speaker 1: Rough his top receivers right now Are Jalen, Tolbert Greg dolcic in like a third round. Rookie and it's not like The the defense isn't, bad but it's. Not stack four and a half is might be tough for them to get, to but that's about as. Low you don't almost ever see a three and a half. THERE i think The jets could be a little, sneaky and to me it does make sense The bills are the, favorites but it really shows you how much schedule matters in the. Thinks no one's going to remember, this but The patriots over. Under last year was actually eight and a half and they won fourteen. Games it's only one game difference this, year and it's because last year and it was, right they projected the schedule to be the easiest in the, league and this year it's one of the hardest in the. League and so it just goes from eight and a half to nine and a. Half let's go to THE Afc north and see who's the favorite. There it's clearly going to be The ravens or The, bengals and it's The ravens by a couple. Games The ravens are projected to win eleven and a half. GAMES i don't know if anyone in THE afc will be above. That you have The bengals two games back at nine and a, Half steelers at eight and a, half in The browns at six and a. Half what do you think about The ravens as a pretty sizey favorite over The.

00:26:49
Speaker 3: Bengals it's hard to, win no matter how good you, are it's hard to win twelve. Games AND i always have to remind, myself Because i'm an old, now that there's seventeen. Games but It's Lamar, jackson and if he's just simply healthy for half as much as he was last. YEAR i think you see the best version Of Lamar jackson because his health was clearly affecting him last. Year WHEN i think about what do they have to worry about or what do they have to? REPLACE i Love Tyler. LINDERBAUM i thought THAT i really wanted The texans to go After Tyler. Linderbaum but at the end of the, days it's a, center you. Know and yes he did a lot of good things in that offense and for that, offense but that's not the kind of thing that all of a sudden sends your team into disarray when you've got a quarterback Like Lamar, JACKSON i would actually take the eleven and a half is a, lot BUT i would still take the over on.

00:27:37
Speaker 2: That so all these numbers look a little.

00:27:39
Speaker 1: Inflated SO i look over at the, schedule and, YES i do have THE Afc, north for what it's, worth is maybe the easiest out of division. Schedule you play the Two south. DIVISIONS i think THE Afc south is, solid but it's not incredibly, good AND i would say THE Nfc south on, paper is probably the worst division in. Football so they're kind of getting the bump. UP i disagree on them Versus bengals as being a huge. Difference to, me The bengals are closer to The ravens than they are to The, steelers who just forever more get projected as eight and a, half like every, year doesn't matter what their schedule, is they're eight and a half and they're always like right at. It and So i'm a little surprised that they're closer to The steelers on this than They.

00:28:21
Speaker 3: You, know there's a little this happened In New orleans for a long time after After peyton, left which is people would keep talking about The saints Like Sean payton was still their, coach, like, ah they always figure out a way to get it. Done like what are you talking? To Sean payton's long. Gone it's a different coach. Now The steelers did bring in a coach who does find a way to win a bunch of regular season games so and then falter in the, Playoffs so that maybe it is more simple with The steelers to just project that.

00:28:49
Speaker 1: Forward, YEAH i IF i had to choose, ONE i would go over on The steelers right, now assuming Assuming rogers. BACK i actually don't think it's a it's a bad, roster you get the good, schedule and it is interesting to me you see The browns as a higher win, total two more than The, dolphins one more than The. JETS i think that does reflect a pretty good schedule and roster outside of. Quarterback but you're also if you're picking The browns counting on Either Shudar sanders Or Deshaun watson combo to get you seven wins in AN nfl, season that's.

00:29:18
Speaker 4: All, YEAH i DON'T i THINK i told.

00:29:21
Speaker 3: YOU i can't remember IF i said at the beginning of this or, not but THAT, i like a lot of, PEOPLE i just really respect What Andrew berry has done with the entire roster except for except for that big chunk at, quarterback which is kind of a big. Deal when you have a catastrophic contract at, quarterback it's hard to overcome. That and their, Defense LIKE i, guess their defense is so impressive to, me AND i feel bad for their defensive players because the statistics will never reflect how good they. Are so many times in games where you're watching The browns and through midway through the third, quarter it's. Tough it's competitive because the defense is playing as well as they. Are you just the damn's going to break at some.

00:30:02
Speaker 2: Point, YEAH i actually think of.

00:30:04
Speaker 1: That one of The bengals games last year was was exactly that. Situation i'm, Trying i'm trying to think of.

00:30:11
Speaker 2: It maybe it.

00:30:11
Speaker 1: Was it was right at the end of the year they actually Want i'm thinking of a different where where they just keep it so close forever and then eventually they get kicked.

00:30:18
Speaker 2: In but new new. Coordinator it's The.

00:30:21
Speaker 1: BROWNS i don't know if the defense is going to be able to stay that good that that they've won eight combined games the last two.

00:30:26
Speaker 2: YEARS i would probably take the under just gut.

00:30:29
Speaker 3: REACTION i don't how many games Does Shoulder sanders end up starting this.

00:30:33
Speaker 4: Year do you think he's going to start at some? POINT i think he.

00:30:38
Speaker 1: Was IF i, HAVE i think he'll start the majority of. Them so, yeah i'd say like ten or eleven the guess they'll probably give everyone a.

00:30:45
Speaker 2: Shot all, right let's go to THE Afc south your.

00:30:47
Speaker 1: Division, UH i don't know if you've seen this, yet but Your texans are co. Favorites Texans jaguars at nine and a, half so the same win total as The. Patriots for, instance the same as The, bengals but a little notch below the teams like The ravens and The. Bills and by the, WAY i do think it makes sense The bills are favorites in THE Afc, East colts behind them at seven and a half pretty, low and The titans at six and a half same as The. Browns you, know The colts being put closer to The titans that they are to The texans than The jaguars is. Interesting what do you think are Your texans the actual.

00:31:23
Speaker 3: FAVORITES i think The texans are the favorite right. NOW i am very intrigued by what The jaguars are. Doing and The jaguars have this way of kind of running these grand experiments where they you, know they did it with Urban. MEYER i was cool with the Urban meyer, experiment knowing that it was going to be either boom or. BUST i didn't know it was going to be a bust to the degree it. Was but then With James, gladstone THE, gm now REALLY i mean he's operating like he's the smartest guy in the. Universe you, know is if he believes he's the smartest guy in the. Universe and usually when you operate that, way it either ends up glorious or it ends up just being abysmal. Failure but what they did in the offseason this year was REALLY i, mean they just bet on everybody on the roster continuing to improve. That and in the, DRAFT i mean they operated in the draft like they're just smarter than everybody. Else AND i think they based a lot of that on. ANALYTICS i don't, KNOW i don't know how much of an edge you can gain with analytics now compared to if you were the team that was first adopting, it you, know ten and twenty years, ago AND i say ten years in, football twenty years ago in. BASEBALL i just don't think you can all of a sudden be that much smarter than all of these other really smart people who are using the. Analytics so for, them it's got to be all, right are we going to sustain what we did in the second half of last? Season really after the addition Of Jacoby, MYERS i think a lot of that is. SUSTAINABLE i Think cohen is actually a really smart. Guy i've just Seen Trevor lawrence go through this, before where man the offense clicks for, him but then that next year when the defense has figured out how the offense is clicked, form it falls back down to earth a little.

00:33:05
Speaker 2: Bit so who's your? Favorite you can't you can't do a show And? Houston oh, yeah, YEAH i.

00:33:11
Speaker 3: Know The texans are the, favorite AND i based that largely on without even being overly optimistic about the improvements the offense can. MAKE i think they are going to have a better rushing offense this, year which is going to make it easier FOR. Cj, stroud and The texans defense could actually they could be better than they were last, year as long as they stay, healthy which is obviously always a big wild.

00:33:32
Speaker 2: CARD co favorites make sense to.

00:33:34
Speaker 1: ME i Think colts fans should should see that seven and a half and be, like, huh it's interesting how low consensus is on The. Colts but they've lost some people and you're just unsure About Daniel jones's. HEALTH i looked at their schedule overall as somewhere in the. Middle they play THE Afc, north which is tough out of the, division but then THE Nfc, east and then you get the games in the, division which could be. TOUGHER i saw a tweet from You seth during the last week where you did a. Pronunciation can you can you say this for.

00:34:07
Speaker 4: Us fabeci We?

00:34:08
Speaker 3: Wu, Okay, yeah that's it's it's a you would think it was n yu or, something but, no it's It's fabeci We wu out Of, Oklahoma fabeci We.

00:34:18
Speaker 1: Wu part of you, know just a bunch of investments on line. Play are you? Buying are you buying what they've done with the line? PLAY i would say on both sides of the.

00:34:29
Speaker 4: Ball.

00:34:30
Speaker 3: Yeah They the theme of the offseason for The texans was to be more physical on. Offense you, Know David montgomery is a physical back that can win in short, yards can break, tackles do all those. Things and on the offensive, line if you look at some of the acquisitions they made with their veteran, Players Braden smith And Wyatt teller are both more physical run blockers than the guys they're. Replacing they re signed At ingram at right, guard not as good in past protection as he.

00:34:58
Speaker 4: Is as a run.

00:34:59
Speaker 3: Blocker he's a very, physical aggressive run. Blocker they Draft Keelan, rutledge who's a very physical, guy physical. Guy we will likewise with his scouting, report and it's really been all about all, Right are we Gonna are we gonna actually run the? Football are we gonna a have a respectable rushing attack in? General because they've been one of the worst rushing attacks in the league every year that. C. J stroud has been, There and then can we use that to set up play, action et, cetera et, cetera or just stay at you, know keep the chains. MOVING i think that THEY i like that they stuck to the same strategy with draft picks as it is with every single draft. Pick, ever we just have to wait and see if they work.

00:35:38
Speaker 1: OUT i do want to give MY i haven't given many like over under like what stands out The texans feels a little.

00:35:45
Speaker 2: Low nine and a.

00:35:45
Speaker 1: HALF i mean it feels like the right, Number BUT i feel Like i'm gonna be high on. Them you're telling me That texans only need to win ten. GAMES i am still believing IN.

00:35:53
Speaker 2: Cj.

00:35:53
Speaker 1: Stroud jacksonville is a little more up in the. Air BUT i actually do Think houston And jacksonville are ibab be a little closer to the top of THE afc than they are just you know, nine you, know, well will they be able to repeat? It and SO i kind of like both of, those but ESPECIALLY i Like houston over.

00:36:10
Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, JACKSONVILLE i think the pass rush they were people were hoping to bolster the pass rush there and they didn't. Necessarily BUT i think that that, offense combined With, COHEN i think has the potential to really sustain what they worked on last. YEAR i would take the over on both of those. Teams and with The, texans like it's hard to, say you, know it's hard to just lean on defense that, much but they retained pretty much every starter and then they improved with adding the safety From Philadelphia Blanken hip, like so they actually now have zero holes in the secondary compared to last year where it was a revolving door at the safety position opposite Of Kaylen. Bullock so that's WHERE i do think, realistically on, paper at least right, now they look like they could be a better defense than last.

00:36:58
Speaker 1: Year, YEAH i think The titans aren't going to be, pushovers AND i think that number reflects. That let's go to THE Afc, west where The chiefs have just been, favorites you, know projected to win eleven and a half year after a. Year this year it's ten and a. Half but it is interesting And this is WHY i wanted to do this. Exercise it is just interesting to see without Knowing mahomes's, status that immediately they're still putting as co, favorites The chargers at ten and a, half both ahead of The broncos who are at nine and a, half and then The raiders pulling up the rear at five and a. Half so it's a lot of faith in a system just, rebounding and that feels it's, weird but it feels right to me because there's a reason they won twelve to thirteen games every single, season And mahomes is coming off of the, injury but they lost so many one score games last.

00:37:53
Speaker 2: Year they were a very unlucky.

00:37:55
Speaker 1: Team they really profiled more as like a ten win type of team last year who was a little, Unlucky and SO i don't mind them being co, favorites but it's an interesting spot to be put.

00:38:05
Speaker 3: IN i think the biggest thing about The chiefs for me is you look at the last few years. Now they haven't been nearly the same as what they were offensively at their, peak but they were buoyed by that incredibly opportunistic. Defense AND i don't know if the improvements and the additions they made on defense are enough to get them back to where they were, Defensively and it's a lot of those one score games from two years ago that came, with you, know opportunistic, sacks strip, sacks, interceptions all of those. Things and The chiefs defense was good last. Year they were, solid but they just weren't enough to kind of offset some of the mediocrity on. Offense AND i don't know if you just regained that as easily as, like, oh, okay now all of a, sudden we're just going to rely On Pat mahomes to pull us out of this in the last two minutes of a. Game SO i think they're still obviously a very good football. Team but With mahomes injury right, now AND i know he's looking good and he's going to be out there practicing and, EVERYTHING i would, TAKE i would take the under on the. CHAIN i think a lot of people are looking at The chiefs and judging them by the logo on their helmet more so than the reality of the.

00:39:10
Speaker 1: Situation, yes and As Patrick claybound likes to point, out these numbers are more about just getting everyone to spend and lose their Money they're not a reflection of, reality but they are about as good of a predictive thing that we.

00:39:23
Speaker 3: Have, yeah the futures of, It, yeah the futures by far the ones Where vegas is just telling you that could come on and.

00:39:28
Speaker 4: Sucker, yeah and we know how you feel about.

00:39:31
Speaker 2: This, yeah it's been a relief that THE nfl doesn't let.

00:39:34
Speaker 1: Me but IF i had to choose one out of does first reaction out of out of this group to, GO i probably would take the suckers, bet which would be Over denver nine and a. HALF i don't really see any reason that they should not be either co favorites or favorites in this.

00:39:50
Speaker 2: DIVISION i think.

00:39:51
Speaker 1: They're a little better than the other nine and a half win, teams and there is a tough. Schedule they got to play each, other and they got to play THE Nfc, west and so that's why this division and they were all a little artificially deflated because they all have pretty tough. Schedule let's go to THE nfc THE Nfc, east WHICH i kind of had as a medium division and a medium. Scheduled The eagles favorites as. Always what's interesting in standing out to me here is that the two teams The giants And commanders projected to tie for last, place have a pretty high wind total seven and a half, each and then you have The cowboys behind them at nine and a. Half SO i do think you're getting a little bit Of cowboys hype that they've had a good offseason and good, draft but it's basically the same order we've gotten most. Years last, year of, course The, COMMANDERS i think going into the year was like a over under nine and a half or ten and a half was one.

00:40:43
Speaker 2: Of the only best bets THAT i had that was actually. Right was there?

00:40:49
Speaker 1: Under but they're much more reasonable here at seven and a. Half what of those four teams stands out to you the?

00:40:54
Speaker 3: MOST i THINK i guess The, eagles just because you, know again going back to what the market thinks and what they, SAY i think the perception on The, eagles and given THAT i know AND i understand that The eagles follow a pattern of just being very disappointing and then blowing everybody out of the water the next. Day BUT i THINK i would JUST i got to go with the under on The eagles right.

00:41:19
Speaker 1: Now whoo sight, Unseen i'd probably generally go over when they're. At when they're at ten and a, Half cowboys nine and a, HALF i feel good. ABOUT i was hoping it would be a eight and a half, though and THEN i would feel even.

00:41:30
Speaker 2: Better But i'm going to be high on The.

00:41:33
Speaker 1: Cowboys BUT i do find it interesting The giants and The commanders are both significantly ahead of the bottom rungs of THE nfl here in terms of expectations at seven and a half, There SO i will be choosing one of their.

00:41:47
Speaker 2: Unders i'll have to think about which one is.

00:41:49
Speaker 4: The John HARBAUGH i.

00:41:50
Speaker 3: DO i have a lot of faith in his ability to like take what has been an underperforming team and just get what you should be get out of that, team like it does the product.

00:42:02
Speaker 2: What should you be getting maybe like seven and?

00:42:04
Speaker 3: Ten, yeah, yeah right, right, yeah just but not an abysmal. FAILURE i, mean there's so. Much there's so much about just being a respectable team in THE nfl that has to do with running a tight, ship you, know and just having you, know basically making sure the trains run on. Time that can you can improve a situation just by having a guy that knows what he's doing at the.

00:42:23
Speaker 1: Helm, yeah this is tough BECAUSE i feel like high on almost all of. THEM i might have to be low on The commanders this. Year all, RIGHT Nfc, north there's going to be some team that's very. Disappointing in THE Nfc, north there was a scenario where they could have had one of the tougher schedules because they all have to play each. Other but out of, division you play THE Nfc, SOUTH i think that's a, win and you play THE Afc, east which has The dolphins and The, jets and to, me you're just looking, for, like what's a game where we're heavy. Favorites that's a real big edge and so you'll have a fair share of. Them and that's why they're all high. Numbers the entire division predicted to be at or better than five. Hundred The packers and The lions first with ten and a half. Wins The bears are not the. Favorites they're at nine and a half and then The vikings at eight and a.

00:43:11
Speaker 7: Half, MAN i just you know what this is WHERE i JUST i love The lions AND i love their culture AND i Love Dan campbell and it makes me want to, Say, okay between The lions and The, packers that is The lions are going to be the one that goes over ten and a.

00:43:26
Speaker 3: Half but do they have, like have they done enough to address some of the losses that they had to.

00:43:32
Speaker 4: Take they're at that.

00:43:32
Speaker 3: Point in the evolution of their franchise where they've, drafted, well they have all these, guys but now you, lose you lose on the offensive, line you Lose David montgomery AND i know he had taken a back seat To Jamiir.

00:43:42
Speaker 4: Gibbs oh this pains me own.

00:43:46
Speaker 1: Division, yeah it's gonna give me a headache because they're building in and the kind of natural fallback from The.

00:43:53
Speaker 2: Bears they're at nine and a.

00:43:54
Speaker 1: Half that's a fairly low number has them at, third but they had a lot of close.

00:43:59
Speaker 2: Wins LIKE i get.

00:44:00
Speaker 1: IT i, honestly probably the best THING i would, feel BECAUSE i don't think there's much of a gap between one and, four is riding With kyler and going Over vikings eight and a. Half after they came through to hit their over last year by winning the last five, games they somehow got a winning.

00:44:13
Speaker 2: RECORD i think they can do it. AGAIN i love That Brian flores. Defense let's go to THE.

00:44:17
Speaker 1: Nfc, south Where i'm most curious who they have in, second and okay that the answer is nobody or, everybody because this is one like going into, It i'm, LIKE i wonder who the second. Is and there could be division odds That i'm not seeing, of like who's favored to win the.

00:44:33
Speaker 2: Division so that spells it out a little.

00:44:35
Speaker 1: Bit The buccaneers at eight and a half in terms of their win, total and then The, Saints, panthers And falcons all at seven and a. Half to, me this is the one that stands out to me of any any over Unders i've seen. THROUGHOUT i feel the most confident in a couple in this. Division BUT i don't want to give it away right. NOW i Want Seth paine to tell me what his favorite pick this division would be over or.

00:45:01
Speaker 4: Under.

00:45:02
Speaker 3: OH i want to, Say, OH i believe in Your Tyler.

00:45:07
Speaker 4: SHUCK i. BELIEVE i.

00:45:09
Speaker 3: BELIEVE i believe in The New Orleans. Saints damn, it seven and a.

00:45:13
Speaker 1: HALF i think that makes sense they. DID i think they had a really sensible. Offseason they have a lot of boomer bust. Picks i've started to Watch. Chuck i'm starting to watch some of the second year, quarterbacks AND i, mean he's an impressive. PLAYER i, AGREE i would have them in second IF i IF i had to choose my two THAT i was talking about, immediate just quick reactions without thinking too, hard THAT i think are maybe my. Two favorite of the entire exercise so far is Over buccaneers eight and a. HALF i just think THEY'RE i just think it's a good. Roster they are just a better team than, That LIKE i, CAN i still am buying a world and it's not the most likely, world but a world where they win twelve or thirteen.

00:45:49
Speaker 2: Games so at eight and a, HALF i think they're the class of this.

00:45:52
Speaker 3: DEVICE i think they've got the best roster by, far and you can see the upside with the quarterback and in that. Division, yeah, yeah, OKAY i feel a lot more comfortable about.

00:46:03
Speaker 4: THAT i.

00:46:03
Speaker 3: SAW i THOUGHT i was picking who is going to be second in the. Division but, YEAH i don't feel good about the over on any of those second place.

00:46:11
Speaker 1: Guys, no IF i had to pick, one it would be The saints for, sure which are a little more boomer boss The. PANTHERS i don't, know but The falcons under is one of my favorites That i've seen so. Far to, ME i think The falcons have a real chance to be closer to the bottom of THE nfl than winning the. DIVISION i know there's routes where that could be. Wrong stefanski's coached, up you, know The browns at certain, points BUT i haven't really understood their. Offseason it's a big change in the front office and the coach to the players fit the. Coach are they really that talented? ANYWAYS i actually thought they were really well coached on defense last. Year, yes they Kept Jeff ulbrich their, coordinator but in, general that looks like a six and, eleven five and twelve type of team to.

00:46:57
Speaker 3: Me you, know that defense is kind of not concer structed to with stand the trend in the league right now of teams running the ball. MORE i, mean it's just they're so, undersized and they're impressive the way they run around and, everything and they're, fast but there's just there's certain weaknesses that are going to show up time and time again until you start to just have a little bit more of a balanced philosophy on.

00:47:18
Speaker 1: Defense and one of the reasons that all those numbers were pretty. Low, yes they get to play each other in, division so that's a, positive but they play the two. Norths that's a pretty tough out of division. Schedule so they're going to be like almost that entire, division maybe except for a Couple buccaneers games are going to be underdogs against the ENTIRE Nfc north like every. Game and then you also have to deal With lamar And Joe burrow and THE Afc North like it's a tough out of division.

00:47:44
Speaker 2: Schedule to make to make that leap for.

00:47:46
Speaker 1: Them all, Right let's wrap up with THE Nfc, west the best DIVISION i think in football because there's three teams in this division THAT i can imagine winning The Super. Bowl The rams are the, favorites a game ahead of the forty nine ers In. Seahawks they have a ten and a half win. Total the forty Nine ers And seahawks. Two The rams are at eleven and a, half so they are tied for the highest in THE.

00:48:07
Speaker 2: Nfl just off the top of my. Head that was with The.

00:48:10
Speaker 1: RAVENS i one Thing i'm noticing there were not a lot of teams projected to, win you, know eleven and a. Half it's a lot more concentrated in the. Middle The cardinals now tie The dolphins in dead last with only four and a half win. TOTAL i believe those were the only two teams that were at four and a. Half what do you think about The rams as the favorites over the defending?

00:48:31
Speaker 3: Champs and that's IF i look at those three teams between The, rams the forty Nine, ers and The. Seahawks so The, SEAHAWKS i STILL i need to see what it looks like With Brian fleury as the offensive. Coordinator AND i know he's got the long background with the forty nine. Ers people respect them a bunch and, everything but there's something about the Way Clint kubiak operated that offense and got what he did out Of Sam darnold And Jackson smith And jigba THAT i don't know if you can just, say, oh, yeah a new guy coming, in he'll do.

00:48:58
Speaker 4: Exactly the same.

00:48:59
Speaker 3: Thing the forty nine ers they just every year they started to feel kind of like you remember with The San Antonio, spurs where you just keep saying every, year well they're gonna get. Old, no, no this is the year they get, old and they just they took. Forever they just wouldn't. Die that's what the forty nine ers feel. Like but this might be the year they actually get. Old so between, those between those two teams and then The, RAMS i THINK i JUST i got to go with the quarterback And Matt, stafford even though last The texans opened with The rams last, year and at that, point you, know for the week's leading up to that, Game Matt stafford was still getting in his science trailer to get treatment because nobody knew if he was even gonna, play and then he reeled off that that performance that he. Did So i'm Gonna i'm gonna go with The.

00:49:42
Speaker 4: Rams.

00:49:43
Speaker 1: Yeah of that group that the things that stand out to me the most probably just AGAIN i think it's sometimes good to go with your first gut reaction is, Yeah i'll Take i'll take the defending, champions maybe most complete roster in THE nfl at ten and a half and take the over Like i'm not gonna think about it too. Hard and then probably the other one that stands out IS i would probably take The cardinals over at four and a half BECAUSE i do think it's an okay. RUN i know they don't have a quarterback and it's a brutal schedule to have to be stuck in this, division and that's why the number is so. Low you also play THE Afc west out of DIVISION Nfc, east that's a relatively hard out of division.

00:50:19
Speaker 2: Combo BUT i just don't think they're that bad a.

00:50:22
Speaker 1: Roster LIKE i think if you put them in THE Afc, south, yeah and like they could win, seven, eight eight games or, something and so you just got to get to.

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Speaker 2: FIVE i think they could do.

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Speaker 3: That so, no, ye, YEAH i think you're one hundred percent right about the. ROSTER i think it's not as cataclysmically bad as you would.

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Speaker 4: Think and Then Jeremiah love if you just if he really is that.

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Speaker 3: Guy that can kind of unlock everybody, else that there's a potential they could do something with him this.

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Speaker 4: Year it is.

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Speaker 1: Crazy the schedule matters so much because the forty nine ers were coming off a total disaster season in twenty twenty three six, wins and they were still projected last year to win in ten and a half, games which people thought was kind of, crazy and you know what they, Won they won.

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Speaker 2: Twelve and then here they are with a much harder.

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Speaker 1: Schedule last year was a little easier for that, division and they're coming off a great season where AND i think they're a Super bowl, contender and it's just ten and a half, again and it's it's these numbers that just they stay around the same Because Kyle, shannan like McVeigh and Maybe liam cohne could join. Them and this is WHAT i think answers Your James gladstone point from like thirty minutes, ago is, like if the coach is good, enough he can make some crazy strategies look really. Smart, like, yeah the forty nine ers have had some crazy, Drafts Kyle shanna makes them look. Smart the less need and The rams have had a great front, office but trading their first round pick every year for you, know almost every year for ten years is pretty, crazy and they've made that, WORK i think because they have a great. Coach Can Liam cohen be that guy we'll? SEE i don't, Know But shanahan and McVeigh to me are the two guys until proven other.

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Speaker 3: One well in That and that defense was just so banged up last year for a long stretch of time that you'd imagine that at the very least getting that, whatever you, know whatever they can do with that, defense there's there's more upside.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 1: SEE i told you this was gonna go fast it's may you know where we're just chewing the fat and having.

00:52:12
Speaker 2: Fun and it wasn't that fast at, All. SETH, i it was just fun to honk with. You thank.

00:52:16
Speaker 4: You oh, yeah, no thanks for having me on. MAN i KNOW i enjoy.

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Speaker 3: THIS i get so excited when you when you invite me onto THE Nfl. DAILY i, REALLY i, KNOW i genuinely. DO i was upset to your other two co hosts weren't, here but that's.

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Speaker 4: Cool thank.

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