Pod Meets Wrestlemania: Charlotte Flair

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Speaker 1: She is a fourteen time Women's World champion who made her first appearance in professional wrestling at just seven years old.

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Speaker 2: Have you done anything fourteen times in your life? I've never done anything fourteen times in my life.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: At least fourteen episodes of Boy That's true, fourteen episodes of the show, and fourteen episodes of the podcast.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I've never been a champion of anything even once, so to do something for it, to be a champion of something fourteen times is amazing. She's often called the Queen, the Top Girl, or the Greatest of all time, but above all else, she's a perfect example of how ten thousand hours mixed with honesty, vulnerability, and some God given talent can turn you immortal. And this weekend, alongside Alexa Bliss, she will further that legacy in a fatal four way for the Women's Tag Team Championship, competing against some of the biggest names in the WWE. So please welcome to Podmeats World, my friend, the wonderful Charlotte Flair. Hello you, hi guys, Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to see you, especially on this megastar weekend.

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Speaker 4: I know the biggest weekend. You at More Games. Yes, I saw you at War Games, sharing you on So Sweet Wicked Night.

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Speaker 6: Uh huh, the.

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Speaker 1: Best, my favorite dance, my favorite dance of the whole show. So this is your eighth WrestleMania, A staggering accomplishment, but you missed out on the last two years because of injury. So does this one feel extra special to you?

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Speaker 4: Well, let me think three two.

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Speaker 5: I think it's my ninth. This is nice, it's my man, it's my ninth. Wow, does it feel more special? I don't think given the injury, that it feels more special. I think being with Lexi is what makes it feel so special because being a solo act for so long and dealing with the pressure and the storylines during the week and the media, it's all just before. Prior it was just talking about myself, talking about myself, talking about myself, or like what's going into the title match this year, It's like I'm sharing it with Lexi, We're doing signings together, talking about our friend.

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Speaker 4: It just feels different.

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Speaker 5: And I don't want to say less pressure because I think you always feel pressure to do your best, to outdo what you've done the year before. The Prayer years, or to have the best performance on the card. But it just feels like there's this like not playfulness, like lightness to it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got to Yeah, I mean we know very much what that feels like to now be doing this podcast and after you know, you finished doing Boy Meets World and then you go off on your own separate careers and then you come back together, the three of you to share in your shared history, and it is there's a the hard times are easier when you are side by side with someone and the good times are amplified.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yes, so that is It's fun to be part of a team. It is, Yeah, I enjoy.

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Speaker 1: It for sure. How hard is it to watch the biggest night in sports entertainment from home, like when you're injured, when you're not able to be there, How painful is that?

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Speaker 5: So I went to Philly when I was injured. Yeah, Actually the highlight of that weekend was doing ESPN.

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Speaker 4: With punk Oh.

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Speaker 5: When I first came back, it was hard, Yeah, it was hard walking around. I still was all glammed and felt a part of the weekend due to doing media like the interview with him. But it was just like man that's not what I do best. What I do best is rustle. But then I think it just made coming back that much better though, just because it's like, Wow, this can be taken away from you any second, so like to enjoy it more. Or like when you're complaining like, man, my schedule is so busy, it's like wait, hold on, Like these were like, be grateful that you're tired, Be grateful that you're so busy. Be grateful that it's like, hay, I'm only getting four and a f hours asleep, and like reminding yourself.

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Speaker 1: That right, because the alternative.

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Speaker 4: Is sitting at home, sitting at home wishing.

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Speaker 1: You were wishing four and a half hours of sleep.

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Is this so we I'm just new to this world.

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Speaker 2: Danielle has introduced me to this world over the last a year or so, so I understand this is essentially super Bowl weekend. Yes, that being said, is it different? I mean because I imagine physically going into the ring is always a really challenging thing and it's got to just be tough on your body every single time. But is there a different vibe to WrestleMania than there is all the other kind of events that you have to do.

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Speaker 4: I can only speak for me.

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Speaker 5: I'm so competitive that I treat like everything like WrestleMania, right, Okay, Like whether it's TV, I'm always gonna try to look my best. I feel like I stay ready twenty four to seven. So if WrestleMania was again in three weeks, I'd be WrestleMania.

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Speaker 3: Ready to go, okay.

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Speaker 5: So I really think it's depending on who you are. It's how much effort you put in, how much it's like get ready to be ready well. And I feel like in this business, the ones who stay ready are the ones that.

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Speaker 4: You know take it to the next level.

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Speaker 2: So like a samurai, you're just always ready to always ready to battle.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's cool.

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Speaker 1: You obviously grew up in the business your father the legendary nature boy Rick Flair, so I can assume your childhood was a bit of a circus. We always hear stories about Stephanie McMahon's friendships with Andre the Giant and others. I wanted to hear who your pals were over at WCW when you were tagging along with your.

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Speaker 4: Dad at work.

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Speaker 5: So I have told the story a few times, and I think it was like the only thing they took from the interviews because it was so shocking.

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Speaker 4: But Macho Man came to see me at school.

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Speaker 3: Like you do, like all.

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Speaker 5: Like the The image that I have is him and my dad walking down in their Zubas and their Fannie packs on the way to the cafeteria because the show.

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Speaker 4: Was in town.

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Speaker 5: And then in that same like week or I don't know, I can't like time wise, whether it was the same day or the same week or weekend, we were all in my like in our backyard hard by the pool, and Macho Man through our housekeeper in the pool, Sibyl, And then I don't know if like she made it like, I don't know if it just looked really bad.

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Speaker 4: And then he jumped in after her.

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Speaker 5: Her name was Sybil and she had three dollars Molly, Sheila and Monica.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my gosh, Sibyl.

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Speaker 3: There you're out there, Sibyl.

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Speaker 4: You remember that time Mucho mad through you in the pool.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So sometimes when you grow up with something, you want to get as far away from it as possible. So was there ever a time where you were like, I'm going to do anything but be in the world of wrestling.

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Speaker 5: I didn't know enough about it to be like oh no, yeah, So it wasn't like yeah, I just didn't know like it. To me, it was just like, Okay, my dad does this. The kids like that that makes me cool. My brothers want to be wrestlers. I didn't know, like yeah, because Stacey Keebler dated my brother when I was in middle school, and I remember when he brought Stacy Keebler to our house.

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Speaker 4: My older brother did not my brother the past, and.

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Speaker 5: Uh, I was like, wow, she's the most beautiful.

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Speaker 4: Woman in the world, and.

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Speaker 5: Just being like, oh my god, David, Stacy wake up so I could play with So that like that's how I viewed wrestling, right, Oh that's cool. Yeah, that's so great.

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Speaker 1: As a kid, did you like it more when your dad was a babyface or a heel?

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Speaker 5: I didn't know the difference, Like he could have been like the worst guy ever, and like I'd be sitting from him like that's my dad.

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Speaker 3: Because people are booing your dad.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'd want to fight everybody he was booing my dad, Like hey.

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Speaker 5: But see that makes me think he was always a good guy because people like no one I would have remembered the booing, but I also know like because he was older when he had reed and I we probably it was like later on in his career, like maybe when he like in w A days, I didn't see the.

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Speaker 4: Booing or the booing.

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Speaker 1: We became friends. After your beautiful piece in the Players Tribune last year, an essay about your personal struggles of both being one of the most decorated superstars in WWE, but also at times you are actually the human being, and it was really so inspirational and exposing of just who you are as a person. What made you want to take that jump to show the much more human side of you to the world.

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Speaker 5: Well, what's funny about the Player's Tribune piece is I actually started it right after my match with Rhea at WrestleMania thirty nine, and I started to talk about certain things like body dysmorphia and.

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Speaker 4: Dealing with.

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Speaker 5: I think criticism online and what that looked like, but also the whole like I didn't come this far to come this far. That was really like the main topics, And then I was like, why am I writing this? Like people aren't going to get any of this, So then I stopped and just like completely forgot about it and told him, like.

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Speaker 4: Oh, this isn't for me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And then the opportunity like came up again in February after I returned and last year and I met with the with the ghost writer who was helping me write it, and we were I was kind of like talking about feeling misunderstood as a character, like I had been out a year, Why this reception? Why are people not understanding that?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 5: I just want to be good, like good enough for them. And then it kind of took a pause, and then after WrestleMania, I decided to finish it, and I think one it was a great outlet for me just to like get all this out. But there was a couple of weeks after WrestleMania where Sina had pulled me aside and asked me, you know what was going on in my head after the promo in Chicago and just kind of where.

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Speaker 4: I was at and you know, what I was doing, And.

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Speaker 5: He was like, you just don't have to be perfect all the time, Ashley, Like you don't like stop being perfect. And then like I finished it, and that like it was like a click, like even if people don't like what I have to say, at least I tried to, like explain I don't know, like not even my side, but also be like what you guys are hating on, like I am human, Like I am not Teflon, right, and I think I'm just so great, like I'm grateful that.

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Speaker 4: I did. Yeah. So I was like, oh, I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, we keep hearing that, I mean over and over again. It's just the idea where it's like, I'm still a person underneath, yeah, the character I'm playing or the lifestyle i'm living, whatever it is, I'm still real and so the idea that you just think.

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Speaker 3: It's okay to say whatever you want whenever you want is not.

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, what was hard for me is like, yeah, I'm playing a character, so it's okay to be that character.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: But then it kind of got to a point where it's like no, like they're hating me, right, not hating the like where I don't like I in my mind, I was like, well, that's how good you are at your job, right, is like you have stayed so true to Charlotte and like the consistency of what it takes to be on top and like to be that good of a bad guy they're hating They're actually hating you, thinking that that is you. But I was like, okay, this is I felt at some point where I was like, well, if there's like future sponsorships or like we had just gone to Netflix, or like these people are watching this and then like the headlines are like she's this, She's that, I'm like, well, we're not attacking the character anymore. We're attacking Ashley, and like no one's coming to the rescue right which no one should. But I'm like, hey, I don't want my future employers thinking that, like they don't know the difference.

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Speaker 4: Between Ashley and Charlotte. That's kind of how I felt like up against the wall.

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Speaker 1: That is one of the very rare things about wrestling, and like most people are very clear on the idea that the actor is not the character.

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Speaker 2: Like no one's coming up to our was going up to Alan Rickman on the on the street going I hate you because the character you played in Diehard.

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Speaker 1: But because the bleaching over of personal life and character in wrestling is so unique. When I'm on Dancing with the Stars, nobody's coming up to me yelling at me about my divorce from twenty fifteen right, whereas.

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Speaker 5: In it.

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Speaker 3: Seems unique to the wrestling world where it is.

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Speaker 2: It's that because again you are playing characters and there's this amazing physicality that goes along with it. But it's like the fans can't distinguish the day.

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Speaker 4: Not even just the fans.

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Speaker 1: That's the hard part is that the bleeding over of the the life and the character.

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Speaker 5: You're trying to validate yourself on fake wins and losses, and I think that's it's tricky.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So like also, like wrestling is subjective. My favorite character is probably not your favorite character, and your like it's just all And at the same time, there was a point too where it's like in mind, I'm just saying in my mind where I really could not figure out, like why am I not good enough? Was like, hold on, to have all these incredible good guys, you have to have that one bad guy, So why is that not getting like credited, Like damn, she's that good because we have all these good guys. Yeah right, but it's just it's just wrestling. And I would I wouldn't change it because it's I love this business. But I just was like, Okay, my future employees people are watching, like I had people like, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know, has it felt better for you since you wrote the piece?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 4: It's only gotten like better. Yeah that's great.

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Speaker 1: And have you been better in this last year at taking care of Ashley?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yes, good.

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Speaker 1: That makes me happy. I see the joy on your face. Yes, so that makes me happy.

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Speaker 4: It's been fun.

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Speaker 1: I remember one thing I really took away from the article, which is an article I think about a lot.

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Speaker 4: It comes up in my mind often.

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Speaker 1: Just so you know, I hope we can all admit that it is very difficult to be a woman.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yes, you said it, like I have to admit it too. I don't know you have it, but I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean it's just there's we deal with a lot all at the same time. So, speaking of women doing badass things, this year, Stephanie McMahon is being inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame, and I wanted to hear from you what Stephanie has meant to you over the years and also what part you think she has played in bringing women's wrestling to where it is today.

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Speaker 5: So in terms of what she means to the industry and talking about bad guys.

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Speaker 4: When she was playing the bad guy.

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Speaker 5: Role, I don't think there was anyone better than her, Like she played that role to the tea, and she also gave gave women the platform in our industry to know that you could have another role that just wasn't in ring wrestling yea, Like she was that prominent of a figure and could talk on the mic, which I think.

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Speaker 4: That's really hard to do.

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Speaker 5: To captivate an audience with just being able to speak. But that's how big of a presence that she had. Like when Stephanie walks in the room, you're like, yeah, That'stephanie McMahon.

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Speaker 4: She has that like or to her.

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Speaker 5: But in terms of what she has been able to do for the women, I don't know if she hadn't had been hands on In twenty fifteen, after the hashtag give Divas a Chance trended for three days during the MLB series and her team in the office focusing on, Okay, what can we do with the women to get them opportunities and to show that if you invest in women, they do sell. So, whether that was merchandise, whether that was I was the first wrestler plus female, well yeah, only wrestler to be in the body issue for ESPN. There was Sasha and Lexi's match and Abu Dhabi. So many things were happening for the girls at that time, and I don't know had she not been in office, had that push not happened for us, because basically she was saying like, look, they can make money. And if you look at our audience, you don't see just you know, Roman T shirts at that time. You see whether it's Becky, Sasha Bailey, myself, the Bella's Natti Naomi, like you saw the representation throughout. They just needed more of it to be able to Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Over the years, your dad has become somewhat synonymous with bringing the role x culture into the wrestling businesses. He has had several standout pieces over the years, and he's gifted quite a few two opponents and friends, did your dad everget you a watch?

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Speaker 5: So, my dad gave me the watch that Sean Michaels gave him when they retired him at the Citrus Bowl in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 4: However, I bought my own as a gift to myself, my favor.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I wear it, I never take it off, and I have it in the inside, it says the queen. What is it?

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Speaker 1: Let's show it off?

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Speaker 4: Is it? Is it a day date?

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Speaker 1: Yes? It is with a black dial. Oh, the ever rose. And then if you look close to diamonds really, Oh, it's a spider spider dial.

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Speaker 3: The love of God, I don't know what any of this means.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, it's so pretty rose.

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Speaker 3: Gold spider dial. Awesome.

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Speaker 4: Does it tell you your heart?

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Speaker 3: Does it follow your steps?

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Speaker 4: Because?

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Speaker 5: But now I'm obsessed with my ring. Ok, so my father, where's his rolex and his heart?

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Speaker 7: Mock you?

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Speaker 4: I'm the same.

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Speaker 3: Like mine has a calculator.

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Speaker 4: Let's just put a rolls beside it.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 1: I am the same way with my Aura ring. As a matter of fact, I just gave my Aura ring to my friend Jamie, who's going to design a diamond sleeve for it. God, so that it looks like any of my other pieces.

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Speaker 4: I need this number.

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Speaker 1: I will give you her number. She's making me an Aura jacket. So my ring will it'll look like any other. It's gonna have diamonds, I.

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Speaker 3: Know I will get as it tells you you're not sleeping enough. Amazing?

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Speaker 4: Oh I obsess.

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Speaker 5: No, I just got it, and I didn't want to because I knew how it was going to be.

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Speaker 4: I wake up and it's the fir. What was my sleep? How much rim sleep?

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Speaker 3: Uh huh, I do that too?

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Speaker 4: What is my readiness?

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Speaker 1: Why am I only getting eight percent of deep sleep? This is a this is concerning I'm exactly the same way. What do you mean My heart rate is a little high today?

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Speaker 5: No, hold on, just because I have to brag, it says my heart. My heart cardiovascular is twelve years younger twice.

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Speaker 3: Wow, it was twelve point five.

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Speaker 5: I don't know why I lost that point five, But it's because I just had a birthday.

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Speaker 8: But twelve because you just turned forty your milestone twenty eight, sister, exactly your heart, My heart mine's four years younger.

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Speaker 3: I'm really blacket. God, my watch always dials nine to one just in case.

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Speaker 4: The other one the other for like work to know work.

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Speaker 5: I'm really really young, twenty eight, operating like a twenty eight year old.

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Speaker 3: Okay, get it right?

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Speaker 1: So funny, Well, hating that milestone for fortieth birthday, you've recently said that you feel better than ever. Now we know why you've got a cardiovascular age of twenty eight. I also felt and I still do amazing in my forties. You had so much success in your thirties. Do you have very specific goals for this new decade, this new era. I want to set them up. I want to start manifesting them.

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Speaker 4: For you, well, I definitely want to be a mom.

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Speaker 5: Okay, whether I adopt, have my own whatever that looks like, yep. I definitely want to main event WrestleMania again. I know that's cliche, but I'm so or to have that big match like whatever that looks like.

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Speaker 3: Okay in your mind, do you have who your opponent is?

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Speaker 5: I have like ideas of what I think would be good matches, but I've never had like, who's your dream opponent. I definitely think the Four horse Women could main event Night two in a four way. I think a match against Lexi with the story that we've had, could definitely be a headliner. I think Rhea and I trilogy because I have won one cheese one one and Jade is just like such a bad ass that's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so like I don't have There are different angles for any of.

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Speaker 4: Your ready.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, and I definitely the self care company that I invested in, I definitely am looking forward to seeing whatever that manifest in two with them and what that looks like. I met them during COVID and then they had come to me to be an angel investor in the fall, but I really wasn't paying it, like I had just so much going on. And then they reached back out in January to continue the conversation, and I was like, you know what this feels right, and even if nothing comes of it, I know that even a little bit of outreach for the mental health awareness tools that they have accessible online and the positive affirmation merchandise that they sell, like, hopefully this will make a difference. And if my platform, where I think people have just seen like Charlotte Flair this I don't know, pretty dominant fourteen time world champion, was like saying, like it's okay, not.

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Speaker 4: To be okay, it'll yeah, definitely help somebody.

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Speaker 7: What's the name of the company. Where can people get the mercy? Self Care is for everyone. They recently did a partnership with Kleenex and Target. So if you buy clean X boxes, it says you are worthy, you are enough, You're not alone. Oh cool, But it's self Cares for everyone. That's the Instagram handle on ig perfect and it's in my bio.

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Speaker 1: Okay link and bio. We've talked a little bit about you teaming up this past year with Alexa Bliss and what has been a very popular and successful tag team. But it doesn't always work out that way. You never know if it's going to work out when you get paired up. What do you think makes this partnership work.

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Speaker 5: I don't know where to start. There's just so many reasons why it works well. One where the odd couple. I think people get into the whole odd couple thing.

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Speaker 4: Lexi.

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Speaker 5: So when she was pitching this to the office, because I can't take any credit, I definitely in my mind was like.

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Speaker 4: I really want to be in a tag team.

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Speaker 5: It's not I've never been in a successful tag team and always been a solo act. She tells this story all the time, and I think when she was pitching, she was talking to the writers and saying, like, my first two years FCW NXT, there was like some bullying going on with her, and she said that I'd always had her back, but we weren't like close, but like she just she knew that I could count on you could count on me and that stayed with her throughout the years. And then also we've been against each other. We had a big match Survivor series we I think it was either Raw champion. She was the Raw champion, I was a SmackDown. And then we wrestled each other again at Hell in a Cell like in twenty twenty three. So we'd had these like great one offs and stories, but I think there was like more to tell, but she kept pitching and pitching, and they were like, I don't think this is gonna work. She's so beloved and I'm so freaking hated.

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Speaker 4: Like how are they going to put us together?

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Speaker 5: And when they did, people were just like, oh, this clicks. But I think it's due to our off screen chemistry of the respect that we have for each other, and like she's a superstar in her own right and so am I. So like you don't feel like one is having to dumb down themselves for the other. One's not trying to like constantly do this. Like when we walk out, you're like, oh, they're just stars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes that's usually tag teams are meant to like.

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Speaker 3: Pull someone up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not all that, but yeah, you can see that a lot she was my first wrestler friend, Lexie.

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Speaker 2: She was so Yeah, Lexie is a special place my heart because we hung out at conventions and she was so sweet.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, she's totally my She was my first wrestling exactly.

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Speaker 4: I would not be hanging out with her at conventions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 5: Fan.

00:27:36
Speaker 4: I know that she was Disney Disney fan. We've only been, but she's been probably every weekend.

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Speaker 3: She started a big Disney fan. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You were such an integral piece of this massive transition in pro wrestling where women went from divas to superstars. No longer just eye candy. You're all these athletic specimens, and now you see all the girls that you inspired because NXT is stacked with future champs. What's the best piece of advice you try to give them when you're asked?

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Speaker 5: The characters that do well or like stand the test of time are the ones that find something that's true to themselves and bring that out in the character. So you have to find like what makes you tick and then turn that into larger than life smart because people won't don't buy into phony. Yeah, or that like it can the faster, Like what's the the quicker you like the quicker the you rise, the faster you fall, like it has to be.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's the same with acting.

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Speaker 2: There's like a method acting to it, where it's you know, you get a character and you try to connect something in your own life to the character a closer. It seems to be exactly the same thing. So it's yeah, it's really interesting where it's it is. It's just a performance.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that very fine line between you not just being yourself, but also it needs to be enough of yourself that it doesn't stink of like authentic.

00:29:11
Speaker 3: Totally.

00:29:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, faking it. I think everybody's going to be able to read that you're faking. It's like a bad actor. You can see it's like, yeah, that person's not connecting with that character at all. I imagine it's exactly the same thing. Like the characters that last are the ones where people are like I buy that one hundred percent. Yeah that's cool.

00:29:25
Speaker 1: Do you have a hype song? Do you listen to anything before you go out there to get you hyped out?

00:29:29
Speaker 2: Oh?

00:29:29
Speaker 4: It changes all the time. I would No, I don't have like a specific Okay, do you have a playlist? It's all over the place. It's not even like remote.

00:29:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, what's the strangest song on the playlist that people be like?

00:29:45
Speaker 3: Really you listen to that type yourself?

00:29:47
Speaker 2: Up?

00:29:48
Speaker 3: What is it's like somewhere over the rainbow? Like, what what's the weirdest thing on your playlist?

00:29:52
Speaker 5: Probably like Garth Brooks last summer n huh no if it works real sentimental.

00:30:05
Speaker 1: Well, we are going to be rooting for you this weekend to win that fatal four way. We adore you and just cannot wait to continue your journey in through your forties. You're the decade of your forties because it's really looked so great on you so far. So I want to manifest all those wonderful things you have in store for this next ten years.

00:30:24
Speaker 2: Thank you, Well longer with a twenty eight year old exactly years of exactly work.

00:30:33
Speaker 4: I'm only twenty.

00:30:36
Speaker 3: Oh it's just down the other one. I'm having a heart problem.

00:30:39
Speaker 2: So something's happening.

00:30:44
Speaker 4: Thank you for being here, Thanks for having me.

00:30:47
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