Club 520 - Charlie Villanueva on Kobe Bryant’s 81, Harden vs. Wade, SGA vs. Wemby
We’re back with Season 4, Episode 46 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen are joined by Charlie Villanueva, where he talks about playing at UConn and developing a relationship with current head coach Danny Hurley. Charlie also talks about being drafted to the Toronto Raptors and being on the court when Los Angeles Lakers star Kobe Bryant had his 81-point night. Charlie and Jeff debate who is the better shooting guard between James Harden and Dwyane Wade, as well as whether Shai Gilgeous-Alexander of the Oklahoma City Thunder or Victor Wembanyama of the San Antonio Spurs should win MVP. The guys make their picks for the upcoming NBA playoffs, and whether the OKC Thunder will repeat as NBA champions.
Timeline:
1:38 - Episode Start
3:00 - To The Baha vs. Club 520
5:30 - Charlie V & Deng could've went to IU
8:00 - Choosing UConn
12:30 - UConn team's run
16:00 - BYU for $7 million?!
17:30 - Dan Hurley's run
18:30 - JR Smith
19:45 - NBA Draft
21:15 - Getting traded from Toronto
24:00 - Kobe dropping 81
25:45 - Chris Bosh
27:00 - Dirk Nowitzki, Tim Duncan, & Michael Redd
28:30 - Getting into real estate
30:30 - Working in Houston
32:50 - First player to tweet during an NBA game
37:00 - Bam's 83 points vs. Kobe's 81
41:00 - Bronny James
43:00 - Top SGs debate
46:00 - James Harden or D-Wade?
48:30 - Harden's first game with Houston
53:00 - Joe Johnson hitting game winners
56:45 - SGA & Wemby MVP race
01:00:15 - NBA championship picks
01:02:30 - Sleeper teams in the West
01:04:00 - Wilt's 100-point and 50-rebound games
01:05:30 - Eastern conference predictions
01:08:00 - Cavaliers, Pistons, and Celtics
01:09:00 - Lamar Odom
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Man, they're gonna hold you down twenty five dollars unlimited nation wide Tap in with the family. I gotta ask you, Charlie, Man, I know you know what saying being around. Did you have a chart back in the day man to boostmobile bobs? What you tapped in? No, I can't even get that, bro. I grew up on welfare man. Okay, I ain't really mean we didn't really had the bread like that, man. Okay, tapping man. We're trying to bring the chirps back. Man. We're trying to the next trunk back. More boy, trying to get one man shout out a hard rock bad be here, we got a light man to get this money man, Final four Weekend. You cash it for sure. Man, you look just take you con But that that's not what I was saying though, Or you were saying he. Got the jersey, he tapped jersey. I'm saying, Okay, I definitely was saying, Yeah, I got Michigan. I had Michigan. Yeah, Florida at first? Ye have Florida at first? Okay, Yeah, we gonna see what happens. But be here, it's almost in big playoffs. We're going crazy with the LA you know, having the Lakers. We're gonna win either way. Hey, be here, Brian started that point guard. So I got the Lakers. Now listen if you want to feed your family for take the Lakers under under under it will feed families. Man. Shout out to Horrod Bet, we gonna get y'all paid. Man. Shout out to stock X keeping us first and it set as well. Shout to Black and Fests Podcast Festival. April twenty fifth of Leonard, Georgia Club five twenty Live show Tea. Back in the ay Man, what's going on with home? Man? Back home bro? The outside show will be here ship definitely. Hopefully it don't rain. Hopefully the weather is about seventy to seventy five eleven d My boy be sweating like, yeah it. Was ninety five. Go ahead and spect. We'll see y'all in the amen for show Man, specially guests in the building issues him blast as usual to my far left. We got my dog. Bishop be hearing out the prailees. How you were nasty, cool and nasty. I'm ready for this one, man, Yeah, you've been You've been waiting for this episode. Man, one of your guys you speak on that team too? Man, what's show for sure? Yes, sir man still tomorright. We got my dog young now show Young tig how you what good bro? I mean, I'm the first one to issue the you know, the bee for the Baja. So I'm glad. I wanted to remember was going on. Who's four and four? Yeah? I was going Charlie. So it was it was cool. Man Rady lost a lot of ways. Yeah right, so you just seen him in the gym. Yeah, you we got to cancel the game. I don't can we got little help. We got game got back. It was getting to it. Okay, we got the show. Come on, wait on this guest man, come on man eleven years man National chain Man, straight to the bar right now, the one only mister trying feeing the white but big Dog appreciate you sliding. On State Man. Appreciate it for having me man. Yeah you now listen, Man were talking about the positive here, won't smoke. You know what I'm saying, whispered nobody. They came up. I like the response video. They said, let's get it. They were at it right. I responded, you're still I don't know. We were like be ahead and d J. We were good Dad, you little acted. He might be still active. But I don't know. Yeah, I still hoop right now then yeah. I mean I can court around and get some shots up. Now, I can make it. I can always can shoot. We can shoot all y'all. Yeah, but they're still hooping up bo is acting. Yeah, ent Rico Puerto Rico in now hooping damn. So that was the only hope he was gonna just let that gonna be a batch of market. Yeah yeah, get all the work bro for so man, let's let's start, man. I U rumors, man, obviously Indiana, is it true that there was a possibility to show lou All nag was going to be going to university? Of course? Okay, that was real, Yes, there was. Actually Mike Davis was a coach day we took in the Fisher vishon me and lou All. Dang obviously we played together in New Jersey and high school together and uh send the pj mm hmm. And at the time, I I don't know how true this was or not, but Indiana was like the number one like party schools. Yeah, really stayful they kept saying it shi right, So I was like, Okay, I had a great time. And after I left Indiana, I was like, me and lou All were talking be dope for us to play Reunited and play Indiana. So we was gonna commit to Indiana low key. I don't think I ever sold the story Republic, but we was gonna commit with Mike Davis was and before. Even before I can talk freely now good. But and then Lou pulled the audible on me. It was like you I'm going to I think I'm gonna go to Duke. And that fucked me up because I'm like, all right, cool. And then I ended up committing to Illinoise. Yeah, so I committed to Illinoise. I don't know if you want me to go down that store. You want me to go down. There, that's what Bill? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Bill Soth was here, but they recruiting me heavy and Illinois was though. I ain't gonna lie. They they the PJ. I mean, I'm seventeen years old. I'm from the seventeen years old. I'm on the PJ and I know my wife over there. But the good thing is that I can say she she understands. But they have five girls waiting for me. Charlie's age just shirt. It. Yeah, Rick, when the River recru that looks like Miami day. You know, I'm seventeen years old. Man, you know what I mean? So yeah, and they show love. They show love. Man. I had a great time. I committed on the spot. Sin, I committed on the spot. This is how I moved. Yeah, I'm here, but uh yeah, I had a great time. And then uh coach South ended up going to Kansas. Yeah, so like maybe like two months after I berbally committed because there was no reason for me to sign, and I was like fuck. And then I think Bruce Webber came in. Bruce Webber, he came in. I ain't really know him like that. I didn't really have a relationship with him like that. I was cool with Dee where Luther had Dee Brown shout out to them, dudes, man, good people's man. But and then I was like, man, you know what, I'm gonna go to Kansas. So it took a visit to Kansas. I'm from New York. No fucking tono hit Kansas. I'm good. Nah, that's it was ever a signed. Didn't nigga tell me to go to the basement and shit. And I was like, nah, I'm good, this ain't it. So y'all went in. The ship was all pretty and I come out this is all fucked up. So I'm like, nah, this ain't it. Bro. So well, Yukon. I ended up going to Yukon by accident. Bro. To be honest, I was like, Yo, I want to be close to home, but I kind of want to be far away. Say fuck it, you call and that's how that's how legit. I already took my five visits and then I took my un official visit to go to Yukon. Obviously, didn't even talked to the coaches or nothing. I was hanging out with BG the whole time. Ben Gordon Ben Gordon from New York, so we vibe. We played together au so I've known him for a minute. And I also knew to Lee Brownd that name from New York as well. So it was like a matter of like, all right, fuck it, I'm coming here. And at that time they were ranked number one preseason. Yeah, I was a loaded show. And I'm like, oh ship, all right, cool, fuck it, come on. What's so crazy is you could have been on the Illinois scene. We already talk about that Triple Heads, Dan Brown, well, boy, you would ask Woody. So and then they went to the They went to the finals and play U and see the next year. But you know I ended up winning in my first year, you know what I mean? So, yeah, I made a right decision. You made it right decision. I was a man playing with America okafore. He was underwriter, a college star, super underrated man, humble dude, hard worker man like that. Dude was a gym rap bro. He was in the gym day in and day out. And he was a good student too. I'm like, yeah, he was a fucking straight a student type ship. And then uh, you know he was you know, he was our best player. Man. He was who carried us throughout the year. And then you add Ben to the mix. Come on, come on, the squad didn't want to tell you. Danim Brown Brown. Joy on margin the squad game markets. Yeah, he ended up Uh he became ineligible halfway. Yeah, that's my dog, he all minister held That's what That's my dog. Josh Vine was the first Billy game because everybody used to argue, Man, what I'm like, man, John, that was. A crazy front court that had. We did. Yeah, we had was like yeah, bro, we was we was nice and we got him to hell. Yeah, y'all had the legendary picture we all had the fire kicks off and ankle socks. Legendary moment had on cru socks at all. You talking about you're nasty for that. Ye. So when we did the shoot, they said they're not gonna get our feet because we was looking crazy. And then the mother threw the feet and I'm like on the eight slam. Yeah, yeah, I had the acle socks. Is crazy. That's when nobody was wearing like high socks. No, but they all had a heat thought. That's all respected about. No, I think one of these guys air force ones. It was. Yeah, we was looking crazy though. Man, they did this dirty man, they did. His dirty I got you got the pigs. Yeah, that's crazy. What was that like though? Obviously you was there two years, but the freshman year coming there with a loaded team already and y'all straight got to y'all had a denver ar flawless season. I always say thank you because I'm a duke. Y'all taking care of that first final four game, I always appreciate. But what was that moment? Like, man, that run? That run was crazy. Man. When we started off preseason number one, and obviously we ended the number one, but it was a roll. I mean we lost this games, bro, We lost this games to like teams that we shouldn't have lost to. So the thing I always say is being number one is always hard because everyone's coming for you and the only way, the only the only way you can move is go down. You know what I'm saying. So pause, that's that's sound crazy. But what pick? Come on? They did. It's dirty, dirtiest ship. You know. The miss that's what got me. The mis had the miss with the ankles is forcing a little backer had that ship all know as usual. Yeah, that's just lady to this day. Yeah, that's funny. What I was talking about my age talking about the run bro. Oh yeah, they run to run and running round. So we end up losing six games and whatnot. And then I remember we lost to Georgia Tech. They beat our ass in New York in Madison Square Garden. And that's the team that I wanted to see again exact and that's so happened. We saw him again. We blenched the ass. We blenched them, bro. But yeah, man, it was dope. Man. That was the first time with the with the man and women won the first first time ever. So campus was lit. Uh, you can't be lit? Hell? Yeah, that ship so. Yeah, it's cold, yeah, because it's nothing out there. They ain't really not much out there, but it's lit though. It's lit when you first got there. Yeah, yeah, it was lit. Yeah. Man, there's some crazy weather. It's about whenever. I'm from New York. So I'm musing to that ship now. Obviously freshman year when it should Did you think about leaving your freshman year? Absolutely? But ain't. Nobody and Jim Calhoun's ever done except for Andre Drummer did the one and done. If you go to Yukon, you're not doing the one and done bro really under Kolhun okay, and the only one that did it was Andre Drummer, but he did it towards the end of Kohoun's uh you know, tenure at Yukon. But you're doing the minimum. But he don't tell you that though. He lures you in and then you know he was. He was fucking with me a little bit. You know, I was coming off the bench, I was starting, I was coming off the bench. And then we won. He flat out told me, if you leave, I'm not supporting this move. Damn dangn. But also He was like, but is the opportunity for now it be your team because Banding the Mecca were leaving. So I was like, cool, I'm gonna give you one more year. He was like, that's all I need was you on the board late. You better made that right. This seasons for sure because that next year who came in Rudy? Is that Rudy came in next year? Yeah? I think either that he didn't. That's what yeah, man, Ray, Yeah, Doniel Marshall, Karen Butler, uh, you all, Kimbo at least at least minimum of two. Years, he gonna do a bit. What was like playing with coach ca Wow that boys, Wow, he will curse you out, bro. He'll curse you the funk out man and then build you back up. Man. Con was a tough coach man, but I appreciate. I ain't value him until I left, Like, damn, this dude is legit. Bro here a good dude man, great coach. Obviously, his resume speaks for himself. Hall of Famer, solid dude man, Salar. It was tough. There wasn't easy. I was a McDonald's All American coming in and you know, I'm thinking I'm I'm shying right away. Ship, I had a fire class to what you think of n I L bag would have been. He already had trouble. Yeah, now you good, You're good. Whatever I'm saying, what play the effect? So that's why I'm asking you the truths from Illinois. I know coach left and Ship, but if they had the bag still still there was still on the table. But I'm just like, I just. Don't got a relationship with Yeah, the dude show me the bag would have been crazy. Respect the coach something as well. He about it, gave you about five. Remember I was with was American three in the country now. So I'm I'm doing you a little low five, a little o right, you think that you get me? I feel no question question for seven out of school going to b YU for the same else you damn right, yeah, be no trouble. To shape the ben going to I was laughing after the last year right in the whip even. He even goes back to the room. Games belonger anyway, right, the luck a full of money man. Now obviously what's going on right now, but there really having a crazy one. The Yukon was talks and fans and they said, if he get one or he get another one is the time for conversation. And that man's program one of the best coaches around. That's the fact you're gonna have to Yeah, I mean want back to back, going to the fight. Well, playing in the championship g three out of four years. I mean, coach Canhune is great. All the family. He won three. Ship if you win three, you're in the conversation, man, Yeah, you're in the conversation. So he in it now, bro, he in it right. Now, in the conversation. Now a little bit more more would like a right are pushing him in the top five. He's flirting with it though, learn with the top five? Yeah, I mean who else? What else he got up there? You at a lot of legendary college coaches, a lot of people that we have a lot of respect to and deserving. So only got one is exactly like behawk like legendary coaching. The respect come on. But in a short period of time there, Yeah, you know what I mean. So he's shutting up the culture man, and and and. You call him right man, he's doing this thing. Man, what's crazy? Is I know him Dan for a minute too, So he coached Saint Benedict's and he was high school with jer Smith. One he played let me tell you something, aout Jail and I'm giving him a quick shot out my goal. The best high school players I've ever seen in my life. Jail was tough, was tough, athletic and shoot the ball. That's not he couldn't do. And what's crazy is we seen him twice in the state finals. I had lost him twice. Yeah, against against Hurley, So he was doing that shit was being on people back then. Head but. So yeah, well we're cool. We talk about that ship all the time and it's always loved. Man. Why you didn't go out of high school? I did. I did put my name out out of high school. I worked out for Dallas and Antonio and New Jersey. I was seventeen years old and I worked out with them boys. I'm like, nah, Yeah, he wasn't strong enough. Hell like nah, these dudes are moving a little quick and it was way too strong. And I was like, nah, I need to go back. I need to gun. I don't know why I was taking. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, hard Rock Bet, the official sports book partner of the Miamia Heating Orlando match. Hardwood is heating up as the NBA playoffs Begain the hard Rock bet every night is a shot to build the same game parlay and a score major buckets. Maybe you want somebody to get thirty you bet on there also somebody gonna go crazy with the rebounds and you locking into double double man. You could do anything assists as well, however you draw it up. Harrock Beck gets you a chance to get that money with the same game parlay. Missis tip off for the big game, No problem. 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In Ohio, call one one hundred eight mile reset gambling problem called one day hundred gambler In Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, Tennessee. And Virginia. That's crazy now, all right, man, obviously can go crazy. Uklaient second year honors across the Big East Board is time declare. What was your draft process like? Was that summer light going into you know what I'm saying, become NBA players? It was dope. You know I I you know, I'm from New York, so I stayed in New York the whole time working out. I worked out for a few teams. I didn't work out for many. I worked out for Toronto, Charlotte twice and maybe Utah and that was it. And then Utah the third pick, Charlotte had the fifth pick, had the fifth and thirteenth pick, and then in Toronto had the seventh pick, and that was it. I knew I was kind of going. I thought, really, I was gonna go to Sharotte because I had a great workout. They actually brought me back the second time. They had me play Sean Maye one on one. Man, one on one full port. They did me dirty too. Now I was tired. Now it was searing man. You know, he. Was running right passing the ball. Yeah, so I thought I was gonna go sh. I thought I was gonna be a. Ray Felton man, Ray felt Man potting now. But and then uh, seventh, I knew. I knew it was either five or seven. I never worked out for six. Six was Portland. I ain't never work out for them, so I knew I wasn't going there. And seven Toronto was my best workout. Yeah, okay, hell, let's say I love Toronto. Toronto is one of my favorite city. Yeah, that's my top city in the league. And at that time I never been out the country, which crazy, so to me it was dope. Man. I had a great day. They welcomed me with open arms. I was so sick when they traded. That's my first ship fro. I'm like, man, you was going there one year. Yeah, it was fixed seven months, man, and then coffee. You had a great year or two though, Yeah, man, I had it was you all rookie? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who ain't where I am t J Ford damn. Yeah. So new GM came in. And yeah, man, they didn't need a point guard, Chris, like, because I was either playing the three, I was playing the four. Sometimes Boss played the five with him and I play together, so it was four or five. So they wanted a point guard though. Man, So you get a new GYM comes in and yeah and got but they did me dirty. I know y'all, y'all heard how they didn't. No, no, but the people don't know. We love to hear the game. So I'm doing an appearance in Toronto on draft night. The draft broke ninety. Yeah, okay, they play the same Yeah, okay, he played you know four, the three, possibly played the three, three, four five type shit. I'm like, okay, maybe they want us to all play. They want to play a big lineup, all right. Cool. So I'm talking to Sam Mitchell at the time, he was our head coach and Brian Colangelo, and they were like, there's a lot of people calling him to trade for trade for you, but the only way we're gonna trade you is that Michael Jordan comes out of retirement. Damn. I'm twenty one years old at this time. So I'm like, man, I'm going MG ain't coming back. So I'm here man. Twenty four hours later, I was gone. Motherfuckers got rid of me. Twenty four hours, not even twenty four hours. As soon as I left that appearance and got home the next day, I was gone. How'd you find out? You find on TV? Agent hit you or my agent at hit my brother hit me? How about that random? My brother had a girl at the time. Somehow his girl knew before anybody knew. She was like mixed with first it's not as girl. I don't know relations man, but Shorty told my brother and my brother, Yo, you just got traded. I don't get trade. I call my agent, I get your note. I would leave that. I get that it was the four one sixth number. I said, oh yeah, your ass is gone. Damn. Hey, I was so sick, bro. I was like, to where Milwaukee? But then shout out to Milwaukee. No lie, Milwaukee's fire. I love him, but my first impression was like, man, this is come on. But as soon as I got there, the love was crazy. I had a great time. Man. I still do things with with Milwaukee, man, and the city loves me man, So it's it's good vibes for sure. Now you did, like you said, a couple of copies in Toronto, but you was around for some for a crazy performance up there in Toronto for your thing on. Yeah, man, it's crazy. I get sorry, wifely, Bud. I apologize that I was out all night last at that night, I was in the streets, man, I was in the streets heavy man, you know what I mean. It has a good time. Man. It was one of them nights where I was just I ain't getting no rest, and it's so happened to be one of the best performances. I had on the morrow. Man. I don't know how that should work, but that shit works. Anytime I go out, I get fucking buckets the next day. That's a bad recipe. And I'm trying to change my life, trying to do right and ship man, but fun, I gotta go out man and get wasted and shit it worked out, man, I had one of a good performance at that that day. For sure. Chris Boss went out here in the and he hurts. So yeah, they just featured me and she was rolling. Man, speaking of Chris bosson one of the most underrated power forward in my opinion of all time. Obviously health issues cut for a little bit, but Chris Boss was a doll. I know a lot of people saw him from the Miami stuff, but Chris Boss was like real killer. What was like playing on the team with a guy like that? Now it was dope man, because I learned a lot from him. Man. Now he was a couple of years older than me, but just having another versatile because he can play, you know, inside out type type ship, just have me under the wing. He kind of took me under the wing. So it was dope man to kind of play with him. Because Pauls won that ship was crazy. That was that was yeah, you're good, but yeah, man, So it was dope man, because you know, he's a sid all star. He should be all of him. I don't even know if he's all he gotta be right, he's not that. I don't know if he's individually but he definitely has that. He got the he got the resume, the team. Chris Bosh was insane. Yeah, man, yeah, come on man, yeah he was. He was. He was. He was the truth. Man. You every play want one in practice? I'm sure we did. I mean we used to go at it, bro. We used to go at it. Man. It was hard because I mean he's a lefty bro, so it's hard sometimes guardian lefties and ship. But he was super talented man, and we definitely went at it one hundred. We went at it man. It was dope. Though. Who's one of your most toughest matchups in the NBA that you can remember? Dirk Tim Duncan damn Dirk Was. I used to love playing Dallas because I knew I couldn't guard him. He couldn't guard me. I was too mobile for him. Yeah, but guarding Dirk bro Like, there's nothing you can do with that. Bro. Let's fade away. There's nothing you can He's gonna get to his spot, he's gonna do the fadeaway ship and you can. All you can do is just pray he misses it. Don't matter how you contest, he's still gonna get the shot off. And he was tough, bro, and then Tim Duncan was missed. Fundamental Bro. He's so basic, Bro, what so basic? So efficient? Efficient and effective. Man, don't talk shit, don't do nothing. He's just a true profession to go out there, does his job. Man, kill everybody, keeps it moving, bro, too respectful, Yeah, speak unready players. And Milwaukee played one of my favorite two guards all the time, Michael Red. Man him Red. People don't give Red enough credit, man, especially the way the league is playing now. He would definitely still first. Obviously he was an All Star back then too, but today Michael Red would really killed today's NBA man. Man, you know that three ball man was money man. Man, you couldn't leave him open at all. Man. I love playing Mike Bradman. He's solid, solid, good brother to man. Not to get our basketball too much. I wanted to ask you about, like, see you big and how did you fall into that shit? Bro? You damn to the man in that. So what's crazy is I retired in twenty sixteen. And by the way, I'm super big on that financial literacy shit because they don't really they don't really well, I didn't really know about finances, you know, I fucking come from welfare, bro, and all of a sudden, you get all this back. So now you're depending on others to kind of run your shit. But I tell a lot of guys is you got to take the initiative and learn. You gonna know your money better than someone else, right, so all you're going to take care of your money better than someone else. Well, So when I retired in sixteen, I was like, man, what the fuck do I do now? Like I didn't know. I was thirty one years old, bro, Like I played eleven years, I'm like, what do I do now? So at that time, my brother got into real estate. He was a real term and then I was like, fuck it, let me just get into the shit. And you know, he was finding to me the properties in Houston. He will finding the properties. I just buy them. I didn't even know how to fucking leverage my money. I didn't know. And I can get real deep with the pause, but. I ain't gonna learn no moment with the basketball. But yeah, man, So and then I started investing in New York, Houston, and then my wife got into got into it, and then now I'm hands on when we do it in Dallas, now we're flipping proper. I'm bro I'm rolling true story. I'm pulling up to the properties and the Rose Royce, but I'm picking up trash like I'm demoing ship, like I got my hands dirty because I wanted to learn the business. And my wife was a rioted to man. She was right there throughout that whole process. And and you know, one property let to two properties, two properties let to eleven, and then just kept growing the portfolio and then just keep flipping or keep building you new construction. So it was a it's been it's been doing well for me. Be here, that's our guy. You know what I'm saying. He's a chef. He tapping with our restaurants. You got a spot oy in Houston. Man, you did your homework. Did your homework, man. So I wanted to diversify and you know, let me jump into the hospitality business. Yeah, it's it's it's hard, it's it's tough. It's tough. It's tough. It's not it's not easy. Because when we opened up, it was right before COVID hit, So it was like six seven months before COVID hit cod hit. Now we shut down for and the good thing is at the time, is that the city at the time owned the space that was a landlord and they was like, yo, you don't have to pay rent, we have to pay rent. And this were done. So it took about two or three years for us to reopen again. So then when we reopened again, it's just like, you know, it's just a slow grind, bros A, what's it called culture. It's right downtown right by Mini me by men, but Houston National Play. That's my second hometown. I might have to pull up. I know the owner, man, he can hook you up. We go to everybody for I didn't even know. Bro, it's not through take a hometime, man, you know, so you got to slide my culture with a k. What's especial? That what we need to try because we're gonna pull up Ship. There's some shrimp grits, uh fried fish Ship. That's Mike Ship. Like if I fish at any restaurant we go to there. It is stable there. So you got a soul food spot. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna pull up. We got hook in there, hooker. We can make some marine. I don't know, I just I know in us And that's the thing who couldn't limb. Then Charlie looked at me a little different. Get you, what one thing I always talk to you about? Man, you was early and the player damage and social media? Man, what was that moment like with you with Scott? Scott was with the tweeters. It's a true story, right, So I'm I was always big in technology, right, Yeah, so when Twitter, when Twitter dropped, my brother was. The one to kind of put me onto it. So I set up an account or whatever, But in reality, I never managed the ship. My brother did so low key. My brother was the one that did the I. Just so when he did it at halftime, it was whatever, right, But that was like the first time that somebody's ever done that, like and during the game, so they averybody thinking it's me, but in reality, it wasn't me. It was really. But I took the hit for I wasn't gonna snitch on them at that time obviously, but you know I took the head. But yeah, man, that ship went viral. Yeah, that ship went crazy, man. But they ended up putting the NBA came with a rule like you can't tweet after like ninety minutes before the game or some ship like that. And it was called the Charles Wow. Man, I couldn't tweet. No, I got no, I got crazy. That's man. Let me get some of that. Yah. Yeah, I know you drink me. I'm drinking a little bit. Cook. I heard that good time. Oh bars and be here he feeling barbe that man here. Man, pass to my guy. Shots for the game, Man, shots for the game. Drink you to at the same time. Come on, man, you know what time it is. You Uh, drink your water first, then take the shot. No, I put the water in here. What Yeah, it's just like on the rocks. No news, that's how That's how you say. Hy date. I'll keep you going all night? Also drinking, keep going out. That's crazy. It could be going on going on. I guess that's the man. At one point, you're laughing, laughing. How je when you come to the league. Oh no, okay, sure eleven when we had to lock out, I thought the season was over. It was a rap. I thought he was gonna lose a year. Man. I went. Twenty eight out of thirty one days went drinking. Damn. I was having with drawers, all types of ship man. When I just stopped and they said, yo, you gotta come back. Yeah, yeah, I had I had it. Well, you went twenty eight days without drinking. With with drank I drank twenty eight days? Were you half a fifth or him asking? At that time, I mean, I like men. Wow to day, I'm like measure now. I like measured text. I can't wait. I can't write Hoday morning. That's what I can't wait, the Moday morning. But yeah, man, that drinking ship was was was was not speak about it now and I joke about it, but at that time some dark days. Man, Detroit was some dark days for me. Man, But I don't got through obviously. I don't got those issues now. But you know in Detroit was some of my darkest days. I don't know if you experienced that, Jeff, where you had like some dark days and ship Man, No, I live. At my homeboys, so ship it was really too. Now what did you pick up the wall? The liquorture? Though it's over time. I have to be a professional at the time. You're not doing the weather tape in bro you threw I mean the same she got ice right, This is just a little bit for me. I'll get straight to it, Yeah, straight to it. But hearing your chest down a few, I shave it. I got a few pieces of. Heard you all, man, Let's just talk so for a whole ship man, because this was doing the part we got to be here. We gotta do it. Uh. Do people need to put more respect on bams eighty three? Don't feel ship hold on because eighty three is eighty three. You gotta respect that from y. That's hard to do, man, because not many has done it right. Obviously, it's just the last six minutes. I was feeling, what are. You supposed to do? You would have did the same thing. Facts, But remember I was on the court when I saw the eighty one. Yeah, so that eighty one and that eighty three is not the same. I mean, I'm gonna keep it real. Kobe, shit was was he Legit gave us a like we were throwing all types of shit out. He was making everything fucking band like. It looked like it was more orchestrated, right, you know what I mean? Like the forty three free whatever he meant forty plus free throws. And you can't do nothing about that. They filling him. Yeah, but that end when you filing and you up twenty and you filing to get another possession. Ain't with that? I fuck with it as a coach. As a coach, yeah, because he's like, y'all want to take care of my player? Well, remember I was on the court and I saw the eighty one. That was the ship eighty one? Yeah, no, and trying to know and they weren't doing none of that. I respect it, though I don't want to come to you. Respect about sixty other points. Now he seventy was yeah, seventy was like, legit, I respect about seventy of it. Okay, what's the. Hoodle of like when like somebody like, all right, I got Kobe or I got Kobe? Like at one point? Did it just become demoralized at that point because you look at everybody going out and you said, that's in the doubles and triples and then. He had fifty and it's still the third quarter? Fuck? Was he talking ship to y'all? Kobe was a killer? Bro? He ain't say nothing. Damn. It's probably was just snake ship. How you do? Man? Is that what you want? So I can respect Charlie's take on that because he was, Yeah, I was actually. That reason. I'm on the statue, So I respect it. Man, he was getting I was not over. He got like twenty years those No no, no, no, no, no, no no no, hold on you look, I don't know what said. Look up ship, I'm me and one more other player that did not get a bucket scored on by. Ship. Up I got. I ain't got that, nigga, but I ain't really got him. No, it's true story though, I didn't get a bucket on me at all. Me and I think Eric Williams, I think it was so. That was all, So, why want you helping me? I didn't want that smoke. I'm a kid, bro'. I'm like, no, he was, that was your moment. And then the thing is he has sixty against Dallas and three quarters this one. Kobe was yeah, he was home. So we was like, all, let Kobe get his don't let the other guys do their thing. Man, you ain't think that ship lacked fire. Kobe did his thing. Man. Yeah's wh Kobe was looking off smushing them. He was not all that with hell about it. He was going through the tough light stuff off the court. Kobe was killing he. Was yeah, he was killing man. And the way he did it. Man, he was throwing all types of ship out of him. Man, Man, so you're basically giving all the bucks to Jaylen Row. Jalen got like sixty. Michigan state legend. Matter of fact, they both got I didn't know that, maybe fifty five and more. P got about another twenty and then like the filling. Yeah, the feeling joint crazy. All right, man, some whop ship while you here, I want to ask you this question, shout out to b J. Brendan just says, oh, James H. Jane starting to Charlie, I got to ask you a question. Yes, sir, Brownie, James Ship. I come across team in the league. You feel like he deserved to be in the league. Yeah, it's lebron soon, Yes, right, he earned it. Brothers are in. The little learning he earned it. Bro. After the US, he's all American, bro, like you got says earlier than you, Bro, he got the same as you, the same ranking as Charlotte. He was. Yeah, he was about seven to. I don't want to fucking black trucks and put up they already like I got it, heard you heard you, I got you, So you ain't. I'm just saying, though, you don't fucking with it. He's starting now as a family, there's a following for sure. Oh my god, of course I'll do it for my son too. No that but like is it deserving? Not real? If he gets in the league, bron he right the league, bright he gets Brce is in the chamber. We sat out this year. You feel me to prepare for next year. Next year we're coming back for a vengeance. Fifteen ppg per game next year fifteen Yeah for Brice, lock it in, lucky in All right. Now, I'm gonna say when two men have an argument, next word should be back. With that. We're talking. But not. There was a conversation shout out to trace me. And Events and they said his responsible is they not better than tomorrow and PG. So of those four shooting guards you just mentioned, who would all take is your favorite? Who I think is the best out of those? Oh who said what McGrady Tracy McGrady Events versus you are? But I ain't gonna put the verses. But of those four, who wich I say is number one? Because a lot of accolades across all those gentlemen, a lot of career establishments are gonna be Hall of famous d. Bo My Nigga. That's my dog. The Martros but T mac Evince. Boy. But we're gonna stop bullshit. But if you look at the numbers, damars up there for sure got the numbers. Talk about the it's close. Yeah, we talked about the day. I'm gonna take out of all them, I'm gonna take Debo like he won the most out of all of them. He got twenty k. He got twenty k. I think he might be hired him. On the scoring list too. He talked over Vince. I don't know. Years, Bro about seventeen I the top scoreless. But also sleep in that conversation. I know people feel differently about them. But Paul George career is fired and he got hurt at the height of his career as well. We talked about that yesterday. And from all point, PG tops in earnest too. Oh yeah, the money is if I got buckets, I'm sorry, Bro, Vince Carter, you go with their co as a player, Yeah, Tracy McGrady is the best, Dennis Vince, Bennis Vince. But if you go like overall career, I'm taking them Rose. I agree with PGS because PG posting is a career. I know they joked about the playoff ship. But hey, yeah, yeah, Perk definitely. Hey, I don't know. He was beast Brown in the East, bro and the faces the truth, that's a fact. Bro. Vince Carter was fucking insane for Toronto and New Jersey. He was. Yeah, he lost more than Toronto than Mack will hurt te max is the Yeah, t Mac was Tea. Mack was premium at one point. He might have been like the one of the best in the league. They had him above Kobe a sudden a couple of years. Absolutely, p G and obviously Rose have never been the best in the league. Right, that's true. So to me, that's why I give the edge to the older Cats and Tam. I'm saying that they're goinger, they're going careers. But he got it, Vincent teammate, he don't even something served. Yeah, that's no interest expect at all. All Hall of. Famers know how we feel about him. I think he might well he a competitor, but he he might say teammate, Oh yeah, I think I think everybody in the world was all that Blue Stars Jersey hit different, but he just got hurt. Yeah, they couldn't stay healthy. Man, But Tamate who one of my favorite players growing up right now the new one some ship that Jeff started is the James Harden d way if you'll touched on all We touched on course, but we did touch on that topic. It was Jeff out of pocket. Who you got? I ain't got nobody, Bro, I picked scared of the trucks, picked James picked. Teams to sparted. He said, yeah, brut them up. The eye test told me d I mean d Wade right away, and then man was reading me the numbers. James got every category ever every game. So I'm like, oh and some ship but yeah, I'm like names. To me and the other one that people put a lot of wait until that hardware. But in then you got. He got the chip. I think he wad check was But I take a finals MVP of a regular season MVP. Though, that's a fact I would how I did it. I played with a bunch of niggas up the way thirty six he was killing. But like a regular season MVP is more to me, right, because your team is like, your team got to be good to win a championship, Bro, Everything got to go right to win a CHIP, Like I really got to ring because everything went right for us, James Harden, Rose, Terrce Hamstring, Kyrie Rose. Everything gotta be perfect regular season most of the time, all the best players play. That's true, Sime. And you know that's that of all. The nigga average thirty six I didn't get. But those those m vps are too totally different. That's what I'm saying. No respect that Andre Dollars, but he got a finals m v P. He didn't come close to a regular season MVP. We shouldn't even hear that, motherfucker. Okay, we're gonna get off. And President was like me. Was like me, so you would rather. Have a regular season m v P than the finals. With the best player in the nv n B A. Bro, He's right, because you can have a good series in B m v P. That don't mean you the best in the league, but m v P. That after Mark how he talked about his PTSD up here about what day Wade did. To the No. Four games. Yeah with d Wade, I'm d I'm going D way three James Harden for Yeah, but I feel. Like it's not the wrong skill. Skill James, your skill, Yeah, Wade don't even have to moves James James in Houston, they look. Scoring on a nigga was going on from behind him. That was a scouting behind him. Crazy. I've never heard that, Bro. Now it let him go to the basket. We gonna say behind two stories. So when he got traded to UH Houston, he played Detroit the first game, m what's up? It's called fifty five? He played us the next game, what do you give us? Forty forty seven? Heah? The next game Atlantis. Yeah, it's taking different, Bro. And then there's this ship with the with the the filing ship that he mastered that ship, Nah, James James hard. I love that. I just think and I don't know how you feel when we sit down and talk to Bro, but that finals MVP. How way got Bro? I averaged thirty six and everybody played with me was forty. No, it's cold, but it's close though. It's not like a landslide, not like that. But James, to kill us, way to kill it though? But respect? How the hell they get you to do podcasting? Man? You got all this ship going on? How they get you? It's crazy, Like I didn't know, like I was actually enjoyed this ship, Bro. Yeah, it's funny, but not funny but funny. But you know, I have a pa I can't grow here. Yeah, I've never been in the barber shop like that. I can laugh what hell get missed out on? So like one of the stop talk, I just imagine that's how barb you ain't never full. Just to kick it those I lost my ship at ten years old. Man, my fault. I lost the ship at ten years old. It was a rap that she was gone. What's up? So when I got with them fellas you know, Ray and THEO. They started off first I was a guest on the show and then you know, I liked it bro like I was natural. It was the thing that I liked, you know. In the league, I was a politician, and be honest, I was an employee. So I had a fall in line. I did my ship professional. I wasn't starting no ship. I just did what I had to do and keep it moving. Right now, I'm my own boss ship. I can't tell me ship, you know. Now I'm talking, you know, and people like dam ain't no c we talk like that. I didn't. Like this, but yeah, yeah, yeah I get that for sure. So that's y'all shows dope, bro, Yeah, I'll be starting a lot of ship on the with my main. Home home be starting to ship. So it's start from home and then go to the rest and then they will be crashing now and then Ray be like with the unk, he be giving you like the facts and ship and. Yeah he don't never need ship, right, I so can't be hilariously start talking slow and everything. Give giving me advice while I'm going in that right, come on, man, let me get it on. Never get outside. If you ever regretted something you said on there, no, yeah, no, I don't like now like I just talked my ship. No talk my ship. And just you know, the only reason why I asked because you know, we had a little conversation about the Joe and bron ship the joke. Yeah you know, I mean. Yeah, back, yeah, I like that. So I had no problem the last second. But it's something to look at, fam, it's something to look at it. I mean what you're said, talk about something to look at it. We don't we look at it? If you said it, I mean, I said, I said, I drunk though, give yourself. This is one they said, you said. Damn, I have to I have to Bro said that you're gonna just think. I don't remember. Charlo was like, I'm the fuck around. Take Joe for why, I'm taking Joe for sure. I mean you've seen it from so yeah, low key, I mean Iso Joe, I mean fucking Iso from one play. I might what year was that he had hit the most game winners or something? He hit one on us? Yeah, he hit like seven game winners with. Dallas as a matter of fact, Yeah, he got a reputation for See. The thing is what who is it? Io and Lebron? Right? Yeah, so pause, But I always liked the ball in Lebron's hands, Bro, because he can make the right play. He's gonna make the. Right play man, and a lot of people he gets he gets killed for that ship, Lebron take the fucking last shot. Like, nah, he's doing the right ship sometimes. But you're right, though, Iso Joe is taking the NBA history. That's crazy. Ten seasons. Yeah, I respect it. I respect it. Yeah, I got you. Yeah, that's crazy. Now, that is crazy, ain't boy? The landslide though, Like it's close. I ain't disagree. Ship if you need a three. Take? Yeah, yeah, every single time, every single time. That's crater that Lebron gets criticized on making the right play, Like he gets you open shot for game, but you didn't shoot. It's like, damn, I got my shooter the best he could get for game. You just having to miss this one. That's tough though, because when you put them in the category of like Kobe and MJ, that's not their DNA. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Lebron is different, Bro, Like he gonna make the right play. So that's why he gets crucified because he's not in the same He doesn't have the same mentality as But. If we down one, you you damn the gotta take that. Bron got time, don't give a fuck. Who's great train, Bro. He can get to the basket whenever he wance. Bro. Yeah, so I'm taken. Did you play in high school? Nah? I never played him in high school? Uh? I remember you remember a B C D camp. I went there, you went there. I was the m v P of that. Lebron had a broken on. That's when Lebron broke his own. I was sleeper at the camp. No I seen uh. I seen him play a bunch of times, but we never crossed pass in high school. You know he was number one, Lou All was number two. I was number three. It's crazy that me and lou were the same team. And yeah that's nothing too in. The wrong class. What was our boy name fud with Dobie eb or something? Uh yeah, dB and he was that clip off. You know what I mean? And McDonald's and you poked on my god? Yeah, man, what are you doing crazy? While today. Heard listen while we're here, Man, it's playoff time with a v P. I ain't gonna front. I've been on my I've been on this winby. Train Bro. S g A. Yes, yes, Bro got it. He gonna get it. But to me, the league it's gonna push the narrative for Wimby because I think is gonna be the face of the league for sure. Normally it's an American player. Because the league wants to go global, they're gonna push for Winby. He's the perfect fit. He's a perfect fit, Bro. So I'm on this winby train Bro. I've seen him locking it down next year for sure. I just with san Antonio. It's special for sure, he say. And they're young, the young league, whooping Bro? In my opinion, young and that's crazy part By. They try to give it to other people. This year, he tried to Lucas stuff late in the season. The joker obviously deserving, but SGA bro like they lose one or two games in a six months, man like he averaging thirty. And efficient like he's fifty plus. Fifty forty ninety averaging thirty. Man But if Winby played like he's been playing the last two months, if he started doing. That in January, I think he would have probably got the MVP nod because he started talking. He y'all talking about offense. I'm the best defending of the league in I average only far. His numbers was just too inconsistent though. Yeah, you know something's talking about NBA every day on our morning shoulder. Yeah, he'll go thirty, then he might have nineteen, like that's I think that kind of hurt him a little bit. But I got a full twenty two. Yeah, oh yeah know he's a on the minutes for sure and everything. All right. I like the odds here. If you are a betman, hard rock bet you know what I'm saying. Nigga two fifty HgI easy money plus twenty five for Winby plus fifteen hundred for Luca, plus sixty hours of for Joker and plus twenty five for Jalen Brow and JB obviously won't get it, but he's den had NBA. For sure a one thousand. But he's, in my opinion, in the top three for VP. Yes, we first first team got him top three whatever. VP. Talking for Jadalen Brown, yeah, I don't. Know why he always gets like overlooked Brow for fucking Boston or he did when JT was gone. For sure, Man, he's surprised the ship out of me because I didn't think Boston was gonna be one of the top teams in the East. And that was a conversation that the summer. Everybody was just like what his first option, Jailer Brow looked like. And they didn't really do much of that roster the. I'm rolling, I'm the star. He is super. He don't get enough credit though, Man, he don't. Don't he gotta go to Vegas, Bro, it's different though. You do expansion, yes, Bro, get your team. The only time he gonna get his own team. That's the fact he's he's always gonna be second fiddling with the team. Damn. Okay, we got the clip right, yeah, bring me that blur. My man, Chris Paul with the nice pass tough pat Hey, that was hey. I know and he fail to think the bake here, but. That's crazy. Wow, ain't he doubled down with. That's crazy? Nice tip? That was wow? This was That's what it's saying. Push celebrated is crazy. But then home, Oh no, brother, my brother, ain't my brother. I gotta get your brother and my brother. Man, shout out my brother. He's the game. All right, man, we got some of the A B. P O s who might get the chip this year. Are you feeling man the chip? Yeah? Yah? Okay see reefeet Yeah, I'm rolling with that too. Okay. See, I've been preaching that since the beginning of the season. Bro. You know what's crazy? They coach Mark Uh I can't say his last name, Mark d. Bush crazy. I'm drunk. He was. He went to U car he was. He was our manager. Dag on the chimp was give me waters and ship. That has I'm my bullshit, I'm my partner. Now, I'll tell you that's crazy though, though. You know so, I'm not for him having this success. I'm not surprised man, because he saw he worked his way up. He literally just talked about people in the basketball world having these do you think bullshit jobs? And they worked their wait until the. Brown And I love that shout out to man mark Man because I've seen it. Yeah, I've seen it, you know, doing the stats, being the manager, grabbing water up on the floor with the tower. Damn niggas head coach of the NBA team and won the chip. I would have never thought that. And he got the team rocking to who's coming the game? Everybody come in to get their off. Bro ship will okay see that? I love and you don't see this and Jeff, you can agree to this is how together there they do the interviews, all of them all. Yeah, that ship is fine. A college team, so you can tell they fuck with each other off the court too. Most of the time, we don't really funk with each other. Man, Like it's you. Ain't have a team that you like jail with everybody. Nah, I was on some bad teams Bantem. Yeah, Milwaukee, yea, we have out here with three dudes that we fuck with. But seen the whole team man and Wicked. Now last year they took him the seven. But what was hurt and the healthy Nuggets team, you know what I'm saying, might not see off. Yeah, they started to catch Payton, Watson back jokers still joker, Jamal Murray looking like you know what I'm saying. It's that time again. The Nuggets and the Lakers were the scariest team. Now that the Lakers everybody hurt. Yeah, I think, yeah, we overlook Santoni. I was about to say something about the. Spidery young though they ain't never they ain't been there. Everybody else been there when they won. They were young too. Yeah, but they got the hump against the different thing that they did. Yeah, this is a lot for the Spur. They gotta go through that fire. But they are capable because if we were gonna play like this and the way that's far Rocket he struggles with yees, it's look three times that's a regulars. Who it was the Lakers. You know what I'm saying. With the Lakers no more? I mean Brownie starting that point. I'm hyped for that, but yeah, probably are not giving I put that on his next year. Oh yeah, So the Nuggets gona basically go be the three Nuggets. See, the Spurs gotta do with the Nuggets. I don't think they can beat them. That's a tough matchup. Now, they would have been happy with the Lakers. I don't know if they would have been done verse. That was special. Yeah, that game was for sure. The leaves in the matchup an't even playing serious right now though. I don't understand. Bro. When you look at you, you're like, hey, I'm no, there ain't no way cold, No. Twenty fifteen easy easy, ain't even surprised looking at them numbers all time. Be here for sure it's time. Five three mm hm. Hm. You're right. He's gonna be mad. I thought you heard shot kareem one. And then he's gonna say, Bill Russell, I ain't pleading enough. Give me. Yeah, I ain't see it up. The Bill, I see it. I'll tell you truth. You say that Will Well, we didn't see it like I've seen them numbers. Will was fifty and twenty. And this the point game, Yes, bro, don't exist the grain. You've seen the hunting, Yeah, I seen it, Bro. You you ain't see the Huney. I've seen it, Bro, Nobody say they don't exist. Expirac all down the hill. But he's wanted like to. Me the will ship. Don't disrespect your average fifty with no threes. Yeah, we're playing against man fifty savage. That's what block that was. See that was some tricks ship I did on you. You don't funk with Bill got the same air. I ain't see it. I see you got eleven rings, right, yeah? Ring? Okay, so Jumper, I don't think so now. Yeah, Kim got two rings, yeah, co. Junker top officer cold yeah, all right. Now in the East, it's a little tricky obviously with k and I hopefully come back strong with the Pistons. They got a wet machine, but we'll see what they do. Celtics, uh, I got Celtics coming out of the East. I don't believe in Nick's Calves. Got a squad, your hearts, you knowing playing well. It could really just be massed up in the East. I don't think there's nobody's clear cut. Boston is pretty solidified. Bro okay, well man, Boston is solid with j T back, I think they're gonna miss I like cleaving, but they got that James Harden ship. True, yeah, playoff ship with James Harden, but he's gonna finally get over that fucking hunk. I got him getting over it. Yeah, I got him. But that's two people on that team who. Got you know what I'm saying, finally break that playoff stigma with him and Dobs. You know, Donn Mitchell be killing, but he ain't got has to take. Around and never had no co pilot like this though as. A fact, and Evan Mobley and Jerry Allen the way, you know what I'm saying, James got the office running, Bobs is hot man. They got out of agreens to win. We have this argument all the time with James Harden, I mean with Donovan Mitchell. Can you win with a small guard? It was the last time being your number one option? When was the last time a small guard being number one option? And when I probably say no, it's he's not. I mean he's six four, he's six four, he's tall. Donald Mitchell like six four six three six four. Yeah, they talling to me, Yeah, you can get it done. That's fair. Shae is a you know Shay, But yeah, that's probably that's probably it though, So you have you got to Yeah you got a legit, you probably five eleven you probably argument I'm seventy two inches because the measurements over here. Crazy bro tell me I saw you. I like talking to you. Well, I don't like that. Turn brood interesting. Like you got a fair argument, man, y'all think childish. You got a fair argument. I don't think you can win with a small guard on too many teams though, that is true. With like step is different. That's shoot in the world all freedom. That's a that's a good one steph got with four Yeah, that's really it around them. Yeah, it's Hall of famers looking around. You got to. But that's why I. Think they can get over the hump because now Donovan Mitchell finally has a solid number two options. Yeah, and he don't have to worry about creating for other people. He can just gonna get fitted. I'll make sure everybody else is involved in the game. Just go kill because you're a Allen been looking crazy with James Parker. That got ken On Ellis and got your guy, did shrot off the bench, They got a talented rock, they got the team. Yeah. Yeah, I think the East Playoffs is going to be real shocking, man, because don't think there's a clear cutter. Off not rolling with Detroit though, I love Detroit. Man. If Kate is healthy, I'll take the Pistons out the East. Yeah, I k come back. If Kate is back healthy, I'll take it the way. At that second, have been playing dayln Darrell looking. Like an All NBA player. Yes, I'm not Roland. You know I ain't a home you sleep, he said. With all that being said, I don't know, bro, I don't know, just because I played there and my time, they ain't go so smooth. But I don't know, Fam, I just don't think they could be Boston man or Cleveland. I know they're the best team in the easton, but I still think I still got Cleveland, Uh, Celtics and Cleveland ahead of him. And the Hawks is balling now too. Now they balling my favorite team. But mar Oldham Macoma for the Hawks. Bro Old yeah Aacoma sleep. He resing them. They're out of here. Fourteen strokes, ten heart attackts. That's how long ago ox and never many stroke? I mean. Yeah, yeah, do all ready for that? Man? All right, now we will see man playing. The time will be here for sure, Man, Charlie V. Man, we appreciate you sliding on this man chap into the pie man, go ahead and prom on the restaurant and the pile one more time, man, so the people can put up and support your culture. Yeah, Houston, Uh check us out, man, and then the pie we go Monday to Thursday. YouTube Live to the Baja with Theo Pinson. Yeah. Felt d Wells just joining the squad too, man, and we got hard he's under real comfortable man. Sorry, not playing y'all no more. Yes, Yeah, we got d Yeah, we got muskle. Hey that's what I heard. Yeahs before we can kids being telling. Grandson shot Club twenty dot com. 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