Club 520 - Charlie Villanueva on Kobe Bryant’s 81, Harden vs. Wade, SGA vs. Wemby

Club 520 Podcast

We’re back with Season 4, Episode 46 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen are joined by Charlie Villanueva, where he talks about playing at UConn and developing a relationship with current head coach Danny Hurley. Charlie also talks about being drafted to the Toronto Raptors and being on the court when Los Angeles Lakers star Kobe Bryant had his 81-point night. Charlie and Jeff debate who is the better shooting guard between James Harden and Dwyane Wade, as well as whether Shai Gilgeous-Alexander of the Oklahoma City Thunder or Victor Wembanyama of the San Antonio Spurs should win MVP. The guys make their picks for the upcoming NBA playoffs, and whether the OKC Thunder will repeat as NBA champions.

Timeline:
1:38 - Episode Start
3:00 - To The Baha vs. Club 520
5:30 - Charlie V & Deng could've went to IU
8:00 - Choosing UConn
12:30 - UConn team's run
16:00 - BYU for $7 million?!
17:30 - Dan Hurley's run
18:30 - JR Smith
19:45 - NBA Draft
21:15 - Getting traded from Toronto
24:00 - Kobe dropping 81
25:45 - Chris Bosh
27:00 - Dirk Nowitzki, Tim Duncan, & Michael Redd
28:30 - Getting into real estate
30:30 - Working in Houston
32:50 - First player to tweet during an NBA game
37:00 - Bam's 83 points vs. Kobe's 81
41:00 - Bronny James
43:00 - Top SGs debate
46:00 - James Harden or D-Wade?
48:30 - Harden's first game with Houston
53:00 - Joe Johnson hitting game winners
56:45 - SGA & Wemby MVP race
01:00:15 - NBA championship picks
01:02:30 - Sleeper teams in the West
01:04:00 - Wilt's 100-point and 50-rebound games
01:05:30 - Eastern conference predictions
01:08:00 - Cavaliers, Pistons, and Celtics
01:09:00 - Lamar Odom

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We'll see y'all in the amen for show Man, specially
guests in the building issues him blast as usual to
my far left. We got my dog. Bishop be hearing
out the prailees. How you were nasty, cool and nasty.
I'm ready for this one, man, Yeah, you've been You've
been waiting for this episode. Man, one of your guys
you speak on that team too?
Man, what's show for sure?
Yes, sir man still tomorright. We got my dog young
now show Young tig how you what good bro?
I mean, I'm the first one to issue the you know,
the bee for the Baja. So I'm glad. I wanted
to remember was going on. Who's four and four?
Yeah?
I was going Charlie. So it was it was cool.
Man Rady lost a lot of ways. Yeah right, so
you just seen him in the gym.
Yeah, you we got to cancel the game. I don't
can we got little help. We got game got back.
It was getting to it. Okay, we got the show.
Come on, wait on this guest man, come on man
eleven years man National chain Man, straight to the bar
right now, the one only mister trying feeing the white
but big Dog appreciate you sliding.
On State Man.
Appreciate it for having me man.
Yeah you now listen, Man were talking about the positive here,
won't smoke. You know what I'm saying, whispered nobody.
They came up. I like the response video. They said,
let's get it. They were at it right. I responded,
you're still I don't know.
We were like be ahead and d J. We were
good Dad, you little acted. He might be still active.
But I don't know. Yeah, I still hoop right now
then yeah.
I mean I can court around and get some shots up.
Now, I can make it. I can always can shoot.
We can shoot all y'all. Yeah, but they're still hooping
up bo is acting.
Yeah, ent Rico Puerto Rico in now hooping damn.
So that was the only hope he was gonna just
let that gonna be a batch of market.
Yeah yeah, get all the work bro for so man,
let's let's start, man. I U rumors, man, obviously Indiana,
is it true that there was a possibility to show
lou All nag was going to be going to university?
Of course?
Okay, that was real, Yes, there was.
Actually Mike Davis was a coach day we took in
the Fisher vishon me and lou All. Dang obviously we
played together in New Jersey and high school together and
uh send the pj mm hmm. And at the time,
I I don't know how true this was or not,
but Indiana was like the number one like party schools. Yeah,
really stayful they kept saying it shi right, So I
was like, Okay, I had a great time. And after
I left Indiana, I was like, me and lou All
were talking be dope for us to play Reunited and
play Indiana.
So we was gonna commit to Indiana low key.
I don't think I ever sold the story Republic, but
we was gonna commit with Mike Davis was and before.
Even before I can talk freely now good.
But and then Lou pulled the audible on me. It
was like you I'm going to I think I'm gonna
go to Duke. And that fucked me up because I'm like,
all right, cool. And then I ended up committing to Illinoise. Yeah,
so I committed to Illinoise. I don't know if you
want me to go down that store. You want me
to go down.
There, that's what Bill? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So Bill Soth was here, but they recruiting me heavy
and Illinois was though. I ain't gonna lie. They they
the PJ. I mean, I'm seventeen years old. I'm from
the seventeen years old. I'm on the PJ and I
know my wife over there. But the good thing is
that I can say she she understands. But they have
five girls waiting for me. Charlie's age just shirt.
It. Yeah, Rick, when the River recru that looks like
Miami day.
You know, I'm seventeen years old. Man, you know what
I mean? So yeah, and they show love. They show love.
Man.
I had a great time. I committed on the spot. Sin,
I committed on the spot.
This is how I moved.
Yeah, I'm here, but uh yeah, I had a great time.
And then uh coach South ended up going to Kansas. Yeah,
so like maybe like two months after I berbally committed
because there was no reason for me to sign, and
I was like fuck.
And then I think Bruce Webber came in. Bruce Webber,
he came in. I ain't really know him like that.
I didn't really have a relationship with him like that.
I was cool with Dee where Luther had Dee Brown
shout out to them, dudes, man, good people's man.
But and then I was like, man, you know what,
I'm gonna go to Kansas. So it took a visit
to Kansas. I'm from New York. No fucking tono hit Kansas.
I'm good.
Nah, that's it was ever a signed.
Didn't nigga tell me to go to the basement and shit.
And I was like, nah, I'm good, this ain't it.
So y'all went in.
The ship was all pretty and I come out this
is all fucked up. So I'm like, nah, this ain't it.
Bro.
So well, Yukon. I ended up going to Yukon by accident.
Bro.
To be honest, I was like, Yo, I want to
be close to home, but I kind of want to
be far away. Say fuck it, you call and that's
how that's how legit. I already took my five visits
and then I took my un official visit to go
to Yukon. Obviously, didn't even talked to the coaches or nothing.
I was hanging out with BG the whole time. Ben
Gordon Ben Gordon from New York, so we vibe. We
played together au so I've known him for a minute.
And I also knew to Lee Brownd that name from
New York as well. So it was like a matter
of like, all right, fuck it, I'm coming here. And
at that time they were ranked number one preseason. Yeah,
I was a loaded show. And I'm like, oh ship,
all right, cool, fuck it, come on.
What's so crazy is you could have been on the
Illinois scene.
We already talk about that Triple Heads, Dan Brown, well, boy,
you would ask Woody.
So and then they went to the They went to
the finals and play U and see the next year.
But you know I ended up winning in my first year,
you know what I mean? So, yeah, I made a
right decision. You made it right decision.
I was a man playing with America okafore.
He was underwriter, a college star, super underrated man, humble dude,
hard worker man like that.
Dude was a gym rap bro. He was in the
gym day in and day out. And he was a
good student too.
I'm like, yeah, he was a fucking straight a student
type ship.
And then uh, you know he was you know, he
was our best player.
Man.
He was who carried us throughout the year. And then
you add Ben to the mix. Come on, come on,
the squad didn't want to tell you.
Danim Brown Brown.
Joy on margin the squad game markets. Yeah, he ended
up Uh he became ineligible halfway. Yeah, that's my dog,
he all minister held That's what That's my dog.
Josh Vine was the first Billy game because everybody used
to argue, Man, what I'm like, man, John, that was.
A crazy front court that had.
We did. Yeah, we had was like yeah, bro, we
was we was nice and we got him to hell.
Yeah, y'all had the legendary picture we all had the
fire kicks off and ankle socks.
Legendary moment had on cru socks at all.
You talking about you're nasty for that.
Ye.
So when we did the shoot, they said they're not
gonna get our feet because we was looking crazy.
And then the mother threw the feet and I'm like
on the eight slam. Yeah, yeah, I had the acle socks.
Is crazy.
That's when nobody was wearing like high socks. No, but
they all had a heat thought. That's all respected about.
No, I think one of these guys air force ones.
It was.
Yeah, we was looking crazy though. Man, they did this
dirty man, they did.
His dirty I got you got the pigs.
Yeah, that's crazy.
What was that like though?
Obviously you was there two years, but the freshman year
coming there with a loaded team already and y'all straight
got to y'all had a denver ar flawless season.
I always say thank you because I'm a duke.
Y'all taking care of that first final four game, I
always appreciate.
But what was that moment? Like, man, that run?
That run was crazy. Man.
When we started off preseason number one, and obviously we
ended the number one, but it was a roll. I
mean we lost this games, bro, We lost this games
to like teams that we shouldn't have lost to. So
the thing I always say is being number one is
always hard because everyone's coming for you and the only way,
the only the only way you can move is go down.
You know what I'm saying.
So pause, that's that's sound crazy.
But what pick?
Come on? They did.
It's dirty, dirtiest ship.
You know.
The miss that's what got me.
The mis had the miss with the ankles is forcing
a little backer had that ship all know as usual. Yeah,
that's just lady to this day. Yeah, that's funny. What
I was talking about my age talking about the run bro.
Oh yeah, they run to run and running round. So
we end up losing six games and whatnot. And then
I remember we lost to Georgia Tech. They beat our
ass in New York in Madison Square Garden.
And that's the team that I wanted to see again
exact and that's so happened. We saw him again. We
blenched the ass. We blenched them, bro. But yeah, man,
it was dope.
Man.
That was the first time with the with the man
and women won the first first time ever. So campus
was lit.
Uh, you can't be lit?
Hell?
Yeah, that ship so.
Yeah, it's cold, yeah, because it's nothing out there. They
ain't really not much out there, but it's lit though.
It's lit when you first got there. Yeah, yeah, it
was lit.
Yeah.
Man, there's some crazy weather. It's about whenever. I'm from
New York.
So I'm musing to that ship now.
Obviously freshman year when it should Did you think about
leaving your freshman year?
Absolutely? But ain't.
Nobody and Jim Calhoun's ever done except for Andre Drummer
did the one and done. If you go to Yukon,
you're not doing the one and done bro really under
Kolhun okay, and the only one that did it was
Andre Drummer, but he did it towards the end of
Kohoun's uh you know, tenure at Yukon. But you're doing
the minimum. But he don't tell you that though. He
lures you in and then you know he was. He
was fucking with me a little bit. You know, I
was coming off the bench, I was starting, I was
coming off the bench.
And then we won. He flat out told me, if
you leave, I'm not supporting this move.
Damn dangn.
But also He was like, but is the opportunity for
now it be your team because Banding the Mecca were leaving.
So I was like, cool, I'm gonna give you one
more year. He was like, that's all I need was
you on the board late. You better made that right.
This seasons for sure because that next year who came
in Rudy?
Is that Rudy came in next year? Yeah? I think
either that he didn't.
That's what yeah, man, Ray, Yeah, Doniel Marshall, Karen Butler, uh,
you all, Kimbo at least at least minimum of two.
Years, he gonna do a bit. What was like playing
with coach ca Wow that boys, Wow, he will curse
you out, bro. He'll curse you the funk out man
and then build you back up.
Man.
Con was a tough coach man, but I appreciate. I
ain't value him until I left, Like, damn, this dude
is legit. Bro here a good dude man, great coach. Obviously,
his resume speaks for himself. Hall of Famer, solid dude man, Salar.
It was tough. There wasn't easy. I was a McDonald's
All American coming in and you know, I'm thinking I'm
I'm shying right away. Ship, I had a fire class
to what you think of n I L bag would
have been.
He already had trouble.
Yeah, now you good, You're good. Whatever I'm saying, what
play the effect? So that's why I'm asking you the
truths from Illinois. I know coach left and Ship, but
if they had the bag still still there was still
on the table. But I'm just like, I just.
Don't got a relationship with Yeah, the dude show me
the bag would have been crazy.
Respect the coach something as well.
He about it, gave you about five. Remember I was
with was American three in the country now.
So I'm I'm doing you a little low five, a
little o right, you think that you get me?
I feel no question question for seven out of school
going to b YU for the same else you damn right, yeah,
be no trouble.
To shape the ben going to I was laughing after
the last year right in the whip even.
He even goes back to the room.
Games belonger anyway, right, the luck a full of money man.
Now obviously what's going on right now, but there really
having a crazy one. The Yukon was talks and fans
and they said, if he get one or he get
another one is the time for conversation.
And that man's program one of the best coaches around.
That's the fact you're gonna have to Yeah, I mean
want back to back, going to the fight. Well, playing
in the championship g three out of four years. I mean,
coach Canhune is great. All the family. He won three.
Ship if you win three, you're in the conversation, man, Yeah,
you're in the conversation.
So he in it now, bro, he in it right.
Now, in the conversation.
Now a little bit more more would like a right
are pushing him in the top five.
He's flirting with it though, learn with the top five?
Yeah, I mean who else? What else he got up there?
You at a lot of legendary college coaches, a lot
of people that we have a lot of respect to
and deserving. So only got one is exactly like behawk
like legendary coaching. The respect come on.
But in a short period of time there, Yeah, you
know what I mean. So he's shutting up the culture man,
and and and.
You call him right man, he's doing this thing. Man,
what's crazy?
Is I know him Dan for a minute too, So
he coached Saint Benedict's and he was high school with
jer Smith. One he played let me tell you something,
aout Jail and I'm giving him a quick shot out
my goal. The best high school players I've ever seen
in my life. Jail was tough, was tough, athletic and
shoot the ball. That's not he couldn't do. And what's
crazy is we seen him twice in the state finals.
I had lost him twice. Yeah, against against Hurley, So
he was doing that shit was being on people back then.
Head but.
So yeah, well we're cool. We talk about that ship
all the time and it's always loved.
Man. Why you didn't go out of high school?
I did. I did put my name out out of
high school. I worked out for Dallas and Antonio and
New Jersey. I was seventeen years old and I worked
out with them boys. I'm like, nah, Yeah, he wasn't
strong enough. Hell like nah, these dudes are moving a
little quick and it was way too strong.
And I was like, nah, I need to go back.
I need to gun. I don't know why I was taking.
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Uklaient second year honors across the Big East Board is
time declare. What was your draft process like? Was that
summer light going into you know what I'm saying, become
NBA players?
It was dope.
You know I I you know, I'm from New York,
so I stayed in New York the whole time working out.
I worked out for a few teams. I didn't work
out for many. I worked out for Toronto, Charlotte twice
and maybe Utah and that was it. And then Utah
the third pick, Charlotte had the fifth pick, had the
fifth and thirteenth pick, and then in Toronto had the
seventh pick, and that was it.
I knew I was kind of going.
I thought, really, I was gonna go to Sharotte because
I had a great workout.
They actually brought me back the second time. They had
me play Sean Maye one on one.
Man, one on one full port. They did me dirty too.
Now I was tired.
Now it was searing man.
You know, he.
Was running right passing the ball.
Yeah, so I thought I was gonna go sh.
I thought I was gonna be a.
Ray Felton man, Ray felt Man potting now. But and
then uh, seventh, I knew. I knew it was either
five or seven. I never worked out for six. Six
was Portland. I ain't never work out for them, so
I knew I wasn't going there. And seven Toronto was
my best workout.
Yeah, okay, hell, let's say I love Toronto.
Toronto is one of my favorite city.
Yeah, that's my top city in the league.
And at that time I never been out the country,
which crazy, so to me it was dope.
Man.
I had a great day. They welcomed me with open arms.
I was so sick when they traded. That's my first
ship fro. I'm like, man, you was going there one year. Yeah,
it was fixed seven months, man, and then coffee. You
had a great year or two though, Yeah, man, I
had it was you all rookie?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who ain't where I am t J Ford damn. Yeah.
So new GM came in.
And yeah, man, they didn't need a point guard, Chris, like,
because I was either playing the three, I was playing
the four. Sometimes Boss played the five with him and
I play together, so it was four or five. So
they wanted a point guard though. Man, So you get
a new GYM comes in and yeah and got but
they did me dirty.
I know y'all, y'all heard how they didn't.
No, no, but the people don't know. We love to
hear the game.
So I'm doing an appearance in Toronto on draft night.
The draft broke ninety.
Yeah, okay, they play the same Yeah, okay, he played
you know four, the three, possibly played the three, three,
four five type shit.
I'm like, okay, maybe they want us to all play.
They want to play a big lineup, all right.
Cool.
So I'm talking to Sam Mitchell at the time, he
was our head coach and Brian Colangelo, and they were like,
there's a lot of people calling him to trade for
trade for you, but the only way we're gonna trade
you is that Michael Jordan comes out of retirement.
Damn.
I'm twenty one years old at this time. So I'm like, man,
I'm going MG ain't coming back.
So I'm here man.
Twenty four hours later, I was gone. Motherfuckers got rid
of me. Twenty four hours, not even twenty four hours.
As soon as I left that appearance and got home
the next day, I was gone.
How'd you find out? You find on TV?
Agent hit you or my agent at hit my brother
hit me? How about that random? My brother had a
girl at the time. Somehow his girl knew before anybody knew.
She was like mixed with first it's not as girl.
I don't know relations man, but Shorty told my brother
and my brother, Yo, you just got traded. I don't
get trade. I call my agent, I get your note.
I would leave that.
I get that it was the four one sixth number.
I said, oh yeah, your ass is gone.
Damn.
Hey, I was so sick, bro. I was like, to
where Milwaukee? But then shout out to Milwaukee. No lie,
Milwaukee's fire. I love him, but my first impression was like, man,
this is come on. But as soon as I got there,
the love was crazy. I had a great time.
Man.
I still do things with with Milwaukee, man, and the
city loves me man, So it's it's good vibes for sure.
Now you did, like you said, a couple of copies
in Toronto, but you was around for some for a
crazy performance up there in Toronto for your thing on.
Yeah, man, it's crazy. I get sorry, wifely, Bud. I
apologize that I was out all night last at that night,
I was in the streets, man, I was in the
streets heavy man, you know what I mean.
It has a good time.
Man.
It was one of them nights where I was just
I ain't getting no rest, and it's so happened to
be one of the best performances.
I had on the morrow.
Man. I don't know how that should work, but that
shit works. Anytime I go out, I get fucking buckets
the next day.
That's a bad recipe.
And I'm trying to change my life, trying to do
right and ship man, but fun, I gotta go out
man and get wasted and shit it worked out, man,
I had one of a good performance at that that day.
For sure. Chris Boss went out here in the and
he hurts. So yeah, they just featured me and she
was rolling.
Man, speaking of Chris bosson one of the most underrated
power forward in my opinion of all time. Obviously health
issues cut for a little bit, but Chris Boss was
a doll. I know a lot of people saw him
from the Miami stuff, but Chris Boss was like real killer.
What was like playing on the team with a guy
like that?
Now it was dope man, because I learned a lot
from him.
Man.
Now he was a couple of years older than me,
but just having another versatile because he can play, you know,
inside out type type ship, just have me under the wing.
He kind of took me under the wing. So it
was dope man to kind of play with him. Because
Pauls won that ship was crazy. That was that was yeah,
you're good, but yeah, man, So it was dope man,
because you know, he's a sid all star.
He should be all of him. I don't even know
if he's all he gotta be right, he's not that.
I don't know if he's individually but he definitely has that.
He got the he got the resume, the team. Chris
Bosh was insane. Yeah, man, yeah, come on man, yeah
he was. He was. He was.
He was the truth.
Man.
You every play want one in practice?
I'm sure we did. I mean we used to go
at it, bro. We used to go at it.
Man.
It was hard because I mean he's a lefty bro,
so it's hard sometimes guardian lefties and ship. But he
was super talented man, and we definitely went at it
one hundred.
We went at it man.
It was dope.
Though.
Who's one of your most toughest matchups in the NBA
that you can remember?
Dirk Tim Duncan damn Dirk Was. I used to love
playing Dallas because I knew I couldn't guard him. He
couldn't guard me. I was too mobile for him.
Yeah, but guarding Dirk bro Like, there's nothing you can
do with that. Bro.
Let's fade away.
There's nothing you can He's gonna get to his spot,
he's gonna do the fadeaway ship and you can.
All you can do is just pray he misses it.
Don't matter how you contest, he's still gonna get the
shot off. And he was tough, bro, and then Tim
Duncan was missed. Fundamental Bro. He's so basic, Bro, what
so basic? So efficient? Efficient and effective. Man, don't talk shit,
don't do nothing. He's just a true profession to go
out there, does his job. Man, kill everybody, keeps it moving, bro,
too respectful, Yeah, speak unready players.
And Milwaukee played one of my favorite two guards all
the time, Michael Red.
Man him Red.
People don't give Red enough credit, man, especially the way
the league is playing now.
He would definitely still first.
Obviously he was an All Star back then too, but
today Michael Red would really killed today's NBA man.
Man, you know that three ball man was money man. Man,
you couldn't leave him open at all.
Man.
I love playing Mike Bradman. He's solid, solid, good brother
to man. Not to get our basketball too much. I
wanted to ask you about, like, see you big and
how did you fall into that shit?
Bro? You damn to the man in that.
So what's crazy is I retired in twenty sixteen. And
by the way, I'm super big on that financial literacy
shit because they don't really they don't really well, I
didn't really know about finances, you know, I fucking come
from welfare, bro, and all of a sudden, you get
all this back.
So now you're depending on others to kind of run
your shit. But I tell a lot of guys is
you got to take the initiative and learn. You gonna
know your money better than someone else, right, so all
you're going to take care of your money better than
someone else. Well, So when I retired in sixteen, I
was like, man, what the fuck do I do now?
Like I didn't know. I was thirty one years old, bro,
Like I played eleven years, I'm like, what do I
do now? So at that time, my brother got into
real estate.
He was a real term and then I was like,
fuck it, let me just get into the shit.
And you know, he was finding to me the properties
in Houston. He will finding the properties. I just buy them.
I didn't even know how to fucking leverage my money.
I didn't know.
And I can get real deep with the pause, but.
I ain't gonna learn no moment with the basketball.
But yeah, man, So and then I started investing in
New York, Houston, and then my wife got into got
into it, and then now I'm hands on when we
do it in Dallas, now we're flipping proper.
I'm bro I'm rolling true story.
I'm pulling up to the properties and the Rose Royce,
but I'm picking up trash like I'm demoing ship, like
I got my hands dirty because I wanted to learn
the business. And my wife was a rioted to man.
She was right there throughout that whole process.
And and you know, one property let to two properties,
two properties let to eleven, and then just kept growing
the portfolio and then just keep flipping or keep building
you new construction. So it was a it's been it's
been doing well for me.
Be here, that's our guy.
You know what I'm saying. He's a chef. He tapping
with our restaurants. You got a spot oy in Houston. Man,
you did your homework.
Did your homework, man.
So I wanted to diversify and you know, let me
jump into the hospitality business.
Yeah, it's it's it's hard, it's it's tough. It's tough.
It's tough. It's not it's not easy. Because when we
opened up, it was right before COVID hit, So it
was like six seven months before COVID hit cod hit.
Now we shut down for and the good thing is
at the time, is that the city at the time
owned the space that was a landlord and they was like, yo,
you don't have to pay rent, we have to pay rent.
And this were done.
So it took about two or three years for us
to reopen again. So then when we reopened again, it's
just like, you know, it's just a slow grind, bros A,
what's it called culture. It's right downtown right by Mini
me by men, but Houston National Play.
That's my second hometown. I might have to pull up.
I know the owner, man, he can hook you up.
We go to everybody for I didn't even know.
Bro, it's not through take a hometime, man, you know,
so you got to slide my culture with a k.
What's especial? That what we need to try because we're
gonna pull up Ship.
There's some shrimp grits, uh fried fish Ship. That's Mike Ship.
Like if I fish at any restaurant we go to there.
It is stable there.
So you got a soul food spot. Yeah, yeah, we're
gonna pull up.
We got hook in there, hooker.
We can make some marine.
I don't know, I just I know in us And
that's the thing who couldn't limb. Then Charlie looked at
me a little different.
Get you, what one thing I always talk to you about?
Man, you was early and the player damage and social media? Man,
what was that moment like with you with Scott? Scott
was with the tweeters.
It's a true story, right, So I'm I was always
big in technology, right, Yeah, so when Twitter, when Twitter dropped,
my brother was.
The one to kind of put me onto it. So
I set up an account or whatever, But in reality,
I never managed the ship. My brother did so low key.
My brother was the one that did the I.
Just so when he did it at halftime, it was whatever, right,
But that was like the first time that somebody's ever
done that, like and during the game, so they averybody
thinking it's me, but in reality, it wasn't me.
It was really.
But I took the hit for I wasn't gonna snitch
on them at that time obviously, but you know I
took the head. But yeah, man, that ship went viral. Yeah,
that ship went crazy, man.
But they ended up putting the NBA came with a
rule like you can't tweet after like ninety minutes before
the game or some ship like that. And it was
called the Charles Wow. Man, I couldn't tweet.
No, I got no, I got crazy.
That's man. Let me get some of that. Yah. Yeah,
I know you drink me. I'm drinking a little bit. Cook.
I heard that good time. Oh bars and be here
he feeling barbe that man here. Man, pass to my guy.
Shots for the game, Man, shots for the game. Drink
you to at the same time. Come on, man, you
know what time it is.
You Uh, drink your water first, then take the shot. No,
I put the water in here.
What Yeah, it's just like on the rocks.
No news, that's how That's how you say.
Hy date.
I'll keep you going all night?
Also drinking, keep going out. That's crazy. It could be
going on going on.
I guess that's the man. At one point, you're laughing, laughing.
How je when you come to the league. Oh no, okay,
sure eleven when we had to lock out, I thought
the season was over. It was a rap.
I thought he was gonna lose a year.
Man. I went.
Twenty eight out of thirty one days went drinking.
Damn.
I was having with drawers, all types of ship man.
When I just stopped and they said, yo, you gotta
come back. Yeah, yeah, I had I had it. Well,
you went twenty eight days without drinking.
With with drank I drank twenty eight days? Were you
half a fifth or him asking? At that time, I mean,
I like men.
Wow to day, I'm like measure now.
I like measured text. I can't wait. I can't write
Hoday morning. That's what I can't wait, the Moday morning.
But yeah, man, that drinking ship was was was was
not speak about it now and I joke about it,
but at that time some dark days. Man, Detroit was
some dark days for me. Man, But I don't got
through obviously. I don't got those issues now. But you
know in Detroit was some of my darkest days. I
don't know if you experienced that, Jeff, where you had
like some dark days and ship Man, No, I live.
At my homeboys, so ship it was really too.
Now what did you pick up the wall? The liquorture?
Though it's over time. I have to be a professional
at the time. You're not doing the weather tape in
bro you threw I mean the same she got ice right,
This is just a little bit for me.
I'll get straight to it, Yeah, straight to it. But
hearing your chest down a few, I shave it. I
got a few pieces of.
Heard you all, man, Let's just talk so for a
whole ship man, because this was doing the part we
got to be here.
We gotta do it.
Uh.
Do people need to put more respect on bams eighty three?
Don't feel ship hold on because eighty three is eighty three.
You gotta respect that from y.
That's hard to do, man, because not many has done
it right.
Obviously, it's just the last six minutes. I was feeling,
what are.
You supposed to do? You would have did the same thing.
Facts, But remember I was on the court when I
saw the eighty one. Yeah, so that eighty one and
that eighty three is not the same. I mean, I'm
gonna keep it real.
Kobe, shit was was he Legit gave us a like
we were throwing all types of shit out. He was
making everything fucking band like. It looked like it was
more orchestrated, right, you know what I mean? Like the
forty three free whatever he meant forty plus free throws.
And you can't do nothing about that. They filling him. Yeah,
but that end when you filing and you up twenty
and you filing to get another possession.
Ain't with that?
I fuck with it as a coach.
As a coach, yeah, because he's like, y'all want to
take care of my player? Well, remember I was on
the court and I saw the eighty one. That was
the ship eighty one? Yeah, no, and trying to know
and they weren't doing none of that. I respect it,
though I don't want to come to you. Respect about
sixty other points.
Now he seventy was yeah, seventy was like, legit, I
respect about seventy of it. Okay, what's the.
Hoodle of like when like somebody like, all right, I
got Kobe or I got Kobe?
Like at one point?
Did it just become demoralized at that point because you
look at everybody going out and you said, that's in
the doubles and triples and then.
He had fifty and it's still the third quarter?
Fuck?
Was he talking ship to y'all?
Kobe was a killer?
Bro? He ain't say nothing. Damn.
It's probably was just snake ship.
How you do?
Man?
Is that what you want?
So I can respect Charlie's take on that because he was, Yeah,
I was actually.
That reason.
I'm on the statue, So I respect it.
Man, he was getting I was not over.
He got like twenty years those No no, no, no, no, no,
no no no, hold on you look, I don't know
what said.
Look up ship, I'm me and one more other player
that did not get a bucket scored on by.
Ship.
Up I got. I ain't got that, nigga, but I
ain't really got him. No, it's true story though, I
didn't get a bucket on me at all. Me and
I think Eric Williams, I think it was so.
That was all, So, why want you helping me?
I didn't want that smoke. I'm a kid, bro'. I'm like, no,
he was, that was your moment.
And then the thing is he has sixty against Dallas
and three quarters this one.
Kobe was yeah, he was home.
So we was like, all, let Kobe get his don't
let the other guys do their thing.
Man, you ain't think that ship lacked fire. Kobe did
his thing.
Man.
Yeah's wh Kobe was looking off smushing them. He was
not all that with hell about it. He was going
through the tough light stuff off the court. Kobe was
killing he.
Was yeah, he was killing man. And the way he
did it. Man, he was throwing all types of ship
out of him. Man, Man, so you're basically giving all
the bucks to Jaylen Row. Jalen got like sixty.
Michigan state legend. Matter of fact, they both got I
didn't know that, maybe fifty five and more. P got
about another twenty and then like the filling. Yeah, the
feeling joint crazy.
All right, man, some whop ship while you here, I
want to ask you this question, shout out to b J.
Brendan just says, oh, James H.
Jane starting to Charlie, I got to ask you a question. Yes, sir, Brownie,
James Ship. I come across team in the league. You
feel like he deserved to be in the league.
Yeah, it's lebron soon, Yes, right, he earned it. Brothers
are in.
The little learning he earned it.
Bro.
After the US, he's all American, bro, like you got
says earlier than you, Bro, he got the same as you,
the same ranking as Charlotte.
He was.
Yeah, he was about seven to.
I don't want to fucking black trucks and put up
they already like I got it, heard you heard you,
I got you, So you ain't. I'm just saying, though,
you don't fucking with it.
He's starting now as a family, there's a following for sure.
Oh my god, of course I'll do it for my
son too. No that but like is it deserving?
Not real? If he gets in the league, bron he
right the league, bright he gets Brce is in the chamber.
We sat out this year. You feel me to prepare
for next year. Next year we're coming back for a vengeance.
Fifteen ppg per game next year fifteen Yeah for Brice,
lock it in, lucky in All right.
Now, I'm gonna say when two men have an argument,
next word should be back.
With that. We're talking.
But not. There was a conversation shout out to trace me.
And Events and they said his responsible is they not
better than tomorrow and PG. So of those four shooting
guards you just mentioned, who would all take is your favorite?
Who I think is the best out of those? Oh
who said what McGrady Tracy McGrady Events versus you are?
But I ain't gonna put the verses. But of those four,
who wich I say is number one? Because a lot
of accolades across all those gentlemen, a lot of career
establishments are gonna be Hall of famous d.
Bo My Nigga. That's my dog. The Martros but T
mac Evince.
Boy.
But we're gonna stop bullshit. But if you look at
the numbers, damars up there for sure got the numbers.
Talk about the it's close. Yeah, we talked about the day.
I'm gonna take out of all them, I'm gonna take
Debo like he won the most out of all of them.
He got twenty k. He got twenty k. I think
he might be hired him. On the scoring list too.
He talked over Vince. I don't know.
Years, Bro about seventeen I the top scoreless. But also
sleep in that conversation. I know people feel differently about them.
But Paul George career is fired and he got hurt
at the height of his career as well.
We talked about that yesterday.
And from all point, PG tops in earnest too.
Oh yeah, the money is if I got buckets, I'm sorry, Bro,
Vince Carter, you go with their co as a player, Yeah,
Tracy McGrady is the best, Dennis Vince, Bennis Vince.
But if you go like overall career, I'm taking them Rose.
I agree with PGS because PG posting is a career.
I know they joked about the playoff ship.
But hey, yeah, yeah, Perk definitely. Hey, I don't know.
He was beast Brown in the East, bro and the
faces the truth, that's a fact.
Bro. Vince Carter was fucking insane for Toronto and New Jersey.
He was. Yeah, he lost more than Toronto than Mack
will hurt te max is the Yeah, t Mac was Tea.
Mack was premium at one point. He might have been
like the one of the best in the league. They
had him above Kobe a sudden a couple of years. Absolutely,
p G and obviously Rose have never been the best
in the league. Right, that's true. So to me, that's
why I give the edge to the older Cats and Tam.
I'm saying that they're goinger, they're going careers. But he
got it, Vincent teammate, he don't even something served.
Yeah, that's no interest expect at all.
All Hall of.
Famers know how we feel about him. I think he
might well he a competitor, but he he might say teammate,
Oh yeah, I think I think everybody in the world
was all that Blue Stars Jersey hit different, but he
just got hurt. Yeah, they couldn't stay healthy. Man, But
Tamate who one of my favorite players growing up right
now the new one some ship that Jeff started is
the James Harden d way if you'll touched on all
We touched on course, but we did touch on that topic.
It was Jeff out of pocket. Who you got? I
ain't got nobody, Bro, I picked scared of the trucks,
picked James picked.
Teams to sparted. He said, yeah, brut them up.
The eye test told me d I mean d Wade
right away, and then man was reading me the numbers.
James got every category ever every game. So I'm like,
oh and some ship but yeah, I'm like names.
To me and the other one that people put a
lot of wait until that hardware.
But in then you got. He got the chip. I
think he wad check was But I take a finals
MVP of a regular season MVP.
Though, that's a fact I would how I did it.
I played with a bunch of niggas up the way
thirty six he was killing.
But like a regular season MVP is more to me, right,
because your team is like, your team got to be
good to win a championship, Bro, Everything got to go
right to win a CHIP, Like I really got to
ring because everything went right for us, James Harden, Rose,
Terrce Hamstring, Kyrie Rose. Everything gotta be perfect regular season
most of the time, all the best players play.
That's true, Sime. And you know that's that of all.
The nigga average thirty six I didn't get. But those
those m vps are too totally different.
That's what I'm saying. No respect that Andre Dollars, but
he got a finals m v P. He didn't come
close to a regular season MVP. We shouldn't even hear that, motherfucker.
Okay, we're gonna get off. And President was like me.
Was like me, so you would rather.
Have a regular season m v P than the finals.
With the best player in the nv n B A.
Bro, He's right, because you can have a good series
in B m v P. That don't mean you the
best in the league, but m v P.
That after Mark how he talked about his PTSD up
here about what day Wade did.
To the No.
Four games.
Yeah with d Wade, I'm d I'm going D way
three James Harden for Yeah, but I feel.
Like it's not the wrong skill.
Skill James, your skill, Yeah, Wade don't even have to
moves James James in Houston, they look.
Scoring on a nigga was going on from behind him.
That was a scouting behind him. Crazy. I've never heard that, Bro.
Now it let him go to the basket. We gonna
say behind two stories. So when he got traded to
UH Houston, he played Detroit the first game, m what's up?
It's called fifty five?
He played us the next game, what do you give us?
Forty forty seven?
Heah?
The next game Atlantis. Yeah, it's taking different, Bro.
And then there's this ship with the with the the
filing ship that he mastered that ship, Nah, James James hard.
I love that. I just think and I don't know
how you feel when we sit down and talk to Bro,
but that finals MVP. How way got Bro? I averaged
thirty six and everybody played with me was forty.
No, it's cold, but it's close though. It's not like
a landslide, not like that. But James, to kill us,
way to kill it though? But respect? How the hell
they get you to do podcasting?
Man?
You got all this ship going on? How they get you?
It's crazy, Like I didn't know, like I was actually
enjoyed this ship, Bro.
Yeah, it's funny, but not funny but funny.
But you know, I have a pa I can't grow here. Yeah,
I've never been in the barber shop like that.
I can laugh what hell get missed out on? So
like one of the stop talk, I just imagine that's
how barb you ain't never full. Just to kick it
those I lost my ship at ten years old.
Man, my fault. I lost the ship at ten years old.
It was a rap that she was gone. What's up?
So when I got with them fellas you know, Ray
and THEO. They started off first I was a guest
on the show and then you know, I liked it
bro like I was natural.
It was the thing that I liked, you know.
In the league, I was a politician, and be honest,
I was an employee.
So I had a fall in line. I did my
ship professional. I wasn't starting no ship. I just did
what I had to do and keep it moving. Right now,
I'm my own boss ship. I can't tell me ship,
you know. Now I'm talking, you know, and people like
dam ain't no c we talk like that.
I didn't.
Like this, but yeah, yeah, yeah I get that for sure.
So that's y'all shows dope, bro, Yeah, I'll be starting
a lot of ship on the with my main.
Home home be starting to ship.
So it's start from home and then go to the
rest and then they will be crashing now and then
Ray be like with the unk, he be giving you
like the facts and ship and.
Yeah he don't never need ship, right, I so can't
be hilariously start talking slow and everything.
Give giving me advice while I'm going in that right,
come on, man, let me get it on.
Never get outside.
If you ever regretted something you said on there, no, yeah, no,
I don't like now like I just talked my ship.
No talk my ship. And just you know, the only
reason why I asked because you know, we had a
little conversation about the Joe and bron ship the joke.
Yeah you know, I mean.
Yeah, back, yeah, I like that.
So I had no problem the last second. But it's
something to look at, fam, it's something to look at it.
I mean what you're said, talk about something to look
at it. We don't we look at it? If you
said it, I mean, I said, I said, I drunk though,
give yourself.
This is one they said, you said. Damn, I have
to I have to Bro said that you're gonna just think.
I don't remember.
Charlo was like, I'm the fuck around.
Take Joe for why, I'm taking Joe for sure.
I mean you've seen it from so yeah, low key,
I mean Iso Joe, I mean fucking Iso from one play.
I might what year was that he had hit the
most game winners or something?
He hit one on us?
Yeah, he hit like seven game winners with.
Dallas as a matter of fact, Yeah, he got a
reputation for See.
The thing is what who is it? Io and Lebron?
Right?
Yeah, so pause, But I always liked the ball in
Lebron's hands, Bro, because he can make the right play.
He's gonna make the.
Right play man, and a lot of people he gets
he gets killed for that ship, Lebron take the fucking
last shot. Like, nah, he's doing the right ship sometimes.
But you're right, though, Iso Joe is taking the NBA history.
That's crazy.
Ten seasons.
Yeah, I respect it. I respect it.
Yeah, I got you. Yeah, that's crazy. Now, that is crazy,
ain't boy?
The landslide though, Like it's close.
I ain't disagree. Ship if you need a three.
Take?
Yeah, yeah, every single time, every single time.
That's crater that Lebron gets criticized on making the right play,
Like he gets you open shot for game, but you
didn't shoot. It's like, damn, I got my shooter the
best he could get for game. You just having to
miss this one.
That's tough though, because when you put them in the
category of like Kobe and MJ, that's not their DNA. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. Lebron is different, Bro, Like
he gonna make the right play. So that's why he
gets crucified because he's not in the same He doesn't
have the same mentality as But.
If we down one, you you damn the gotta take that.
Bron got time, don't give a fuck. Who's great train, Bro.
He can get to the basket whenever he wance. Bro.
Yeah, so I'm taken.
Did you play in high school?
Nah? I never played him in high school?
Uh?
I remember you remember a B C D camp. I
went there, you went there. I was the m v
P of that. Lebron had a broken on. That's when
Lebron broke his own.
I was sleeper at the camp.
No I seen uh.
I seen him play a bunch of times, but we
never crossed pass in high school. You know he was
number one, Lou All was number two. I was number three.
It's crazy that me and lou were the same team.
And yeah that's nothing too in.
The wrong class. What was our boy name fud with
Dobie eb or something? Uh yeah, dB and he was
that clip off.
You know what I mean?
And McDonald's and you poked on my god? Yeah, man,
what are you doing crazy?
While today.
Heard listen while we're here, Man, it's playoff time with
a v P.
I ain't gonna front. I've been on my I've been
on this winby.
Train Bro.
S g A.
Yes, yes, Bro got it. He gonna get it.
But to me, the league it's gonna push the narrative
for Wimby because I think is gonna be the face
of the league for sure. Normally it's an American player.
Because the league wants to go global, they're gonna push
for Winby. He's the perfect fit. He's a perfect fit, Bro.
So I'm on this winby train Bro.
I've seen him locking it down next year for sure.
I just with san Antonio. It's special for sure, he say.
And they're young, the young league, whooping Bro?
In my opinion, young and that's crazy part By. They
try to give it to other people. This year, he
tried to Lucas stuff late in the season. The joker
obviously deserving, but SGA bro like they lose one or
two games in a six months, man like he averaging thirty.
And efficient like he's fifty plus.
Fifty forty ninety averaging thirty. Man But if Winby played
like he's been playing the last two months, if he
started doing.
That in January, I think he would have probably got
the MVP nod because he started talking. He y'all talking
about offense. I'm the best defending of the league in
I average only far.
His numbers was just too inconsistent though. Yeah, you know
something's talking about NBA every day on our morning shoulder. Yeah,
he'll go thirty, then he might have nineteen, like that's
I think that kind of hurt him a little bit.
But I got a full twenty two. Yeah, oh yeah
know he's a on the minutes for sure and everything.
All right.
I like the odds here. If you are a betman,
hard rock bet you know what I'm saying. Nigga two
fifty HgI easy money plus twenty five for Winby plus
fifteen hundred for Luca, plus sixty hours of for Joker
and plus twenty five for Jalen Brow and JB obviously
won't get it, but he's den had NBA.
For sure a one thousand. But he's, in my opinion,
in the top three for VP.
Yes, we first first team got him top three whatever.
VP. Talking for Jadalen Brown, yeah, I don't.
Know why he always gets like overlooked Brow for fucking
Boston or he did when JT was gone. For sure, Man,
he's surprised the ship out of me because I didn't
think Boston was gonna be one of the top teams
in the East.
And that was a conversation that the summer. Everybody was
just like what his first option, Jailer Brow looked like.
And they didn't really do much of that roster the.
I'm rolling, I'm the star. He is super.
He don't get enough credit though, Man, he don't.
Don't he gotta go to Vegas, Bro, it's different though.
You do expansion, yes, Bro, get your team.
The only time he gonna get his own team.
That's the fact he's he's always gonna be second fiddling
with the team.
Damn.
Okay, we got the clip right, yeah, bring me that blur.
My man, Chris Paul with the nice pass tough pat Hey,
that was hey.
I know and he fail to think the bake here, but.
That's crazy. Wow, ain't he doubled down with.
That's crazy?
Nice tip?
That was wow?
This was That's what it's saying.
Push celebrated is crazy.
But then home, Oh no, brother, my brother, ain't my brother.
I gotta get your brother and my brother.
Man, shout out my brother. He's the game.
All right, man, we got some of the A B.
P O s who might get the chip this year.
Are you feeling man the chip?
Yeah? Yah?
Okay see reefeet Yeah, I'm rolling with that too.
Okay. See, I've been preaching that since the beginning of
the season. Bro. You know what's crazy?
They coach Mark Uh I can't say his last name,
Mark d.
Bush crazy.
I'm drunk.
He was.
He went to U car he was. He was our manager.
Dag on the chimp was give me waters and ship.
That has I'm my bullshit, I'm my partner. Now, I'll
tell you that's crazy though, though.
You know so, I'm not for him having this success.
I'm not surprised man, because he saw he worked his
way up.
He literally just talked about people in the basketball world
having these do you think bullshit jobs?
And they worked their wait until the.
Brown And I love that shout out to man mark
Man because I've seen it. Yeah, I've seen it, you know,
doing the stats, being the manager, grabbing water up on
the floor with the tower. Damn niggas head coach of
the NBA team and won the chip.
I would have never thought that.
And he got the team rocking to who's coming the game?
Everybody come in to get their off.
Bro ship will okay see that? I love and you
don't see this and Jeff, you can agree to this
is how together there they do the interviews, all of
them all. Yeah, that ship is fine.
A college team, so you can tell they fuck with
each other off the court too. Most of the time,
we don't really funk with each other. Man, Like it's you.
Ain't have a team that you like jail with everybody.
Nah, I was on some bad teams Bantem.
Yeah, Milwaukee, yea, we have out here with three dudes
that we fuck with.
But seen the whole team man and Wicked.
Now last year they took him the seven. But what
was hurt and the healthy Nuggets team, you know what
I'm saying, might not see off. Yeah, they started to
catch Payton, Watson back jokers still joker, Jamal Murray looking
like you know what I'm saying.
It's that time again. The Nuggets and the Lakers were
the scariest team. Now that the Lakers everybody hurt.
Yeah, I think, yeah, we overlook Santoni. I was about
to say something about the.
Spidery young though they ain't never they ain't been there.
Everybody else been there when they won. They were young too.
Yeah, but they got the hump against the different thing
that they did.
Yeah, this is a lot for the Spur. They gotta
go through that fire. But they are capable because if
we were gonna play like this and the way that's
far Rocket he struggles with yees, it's look three times
that's a regulars.
Who it was the Lakers. You know what I'm saying.
With the Lakers no more?
I mean Brownie starting that point. I'm hyped for that,
but yeah, probably are not giving I put that on
his next year.
Oh yeah, So the Nuggets gona basically go be the
three Nuggets.
See, the Spurs gotta do with the Nuggets. I don't
think they can beat them.
That's a tough matchup. Now, they would have been happy
with the Lakers. I don't know if they would have
been done verse.
That was special. Yeah, that game was for sure.
The leaves in the matchup an't even playing serious right
now though.
I don't understand. Bro.
When you look at you, you're like, hey, I'm no,
there ain't no way cold, No.
Twenty fifteen easy easy, ain't even surprised looking at them
numbers all time.
Be here for sure it's time.
Five three mm hm.
Hm.
You're right.
He's gonna be mad. I thought you heard shot kareem one.
And then he's gonna say, Bill Russell, I ain't pleading enough.
Give me.
Yeah, I ain't see it up.
The Bill, I see it. I'll tell you truth.
You say that Will Well, we didn't see it like
I've seen them numbers. Will was fifty and twenty. And
this the point game, Yes, bro, don't exist the grain.
You've seen the hunting, Yeah, I seen it, Bro. You
you ain't see the Huney. I've seen it, Bro, Nobody
say they don't exist. Expirac all down the hill.
But he's wanted like to.
Me the will ship.
Don't disrespect your average fifty with no threes. Yeah, we're
playing against man fifty savage.
That's what block that was. See that was some tricks
ship I did on you. You don't funk with Bill
got the same air.
I ain't see it.
I see you got eleven rings, right, yeah? Ring?
Okay, so Jumper, I don't think so now.
Yeah, Kim got two rings, yeah, co.
Junker top officer cold yeah, all right.
Now in the East, it's a little tricky obviously with
k and I hopefully come back strong with the Pistons.
They got a wet machine, but we'll see what they do. Celtics, uh,
I got Celtics coming out of the East. I don't
believe in Nick's Calves. Got a squad, your hearts, you
knowing playing well. It could really just be massed up
in the East. I don't think there's nobody's clear cut.
Boston is pretty solidified. Bro okay, well man, Boston is
solid with j T back, I think they're gonna miss
I like cleaving, but they got that James Harden ship. True, yeah,
playoff ship with James Harden, but he's gonna finally get
over that fucking hunk.
I got him getting over it. Yeah, I got him.
But that's two people on that team who.
Got you know what I'm saying, finally break that playoff
stigma with him and Dobs.
You know, Donn Mitchell be killing, but he ain't got
has to take.
Around and never had no co pilot like this though as.
A fact, and Evan Mobley and Jerry Allen the way,
you know what I'm saying, James got the office running,
Bobs is hot man.
They got out of agreens to win.
We have this argument all the time with James Harden,
I mean with Donovan Mitchell.
Can you win with a small guard? It was the
last time being your number one option? When was the
last time a small guard being number one option?
And when I probably say no, it's he's not.
I mean he's six four, he's six four, he's tall.
Donald Mitchell like six four six three six four. Yeah,
they talling to me, Yeah, you can get it done.
That's fair.
Shae is a you know Shay, But yeah, that's probably
that's probably it though, So you have you got to
Yeah you got a legit, you probably five eleven you
probably argument I'm seventy two inches because the measurements over here.
Crazy bro tell me I saw you. I like talking
to you. Well, I don't like that.
Turn brood interesting. Like you got a fair argument, man,
y'all think childish. You got a fair argument. I don't
think you can win with a small guard on too
many teams though, that is true.
With like step is different. That's shoot in the world
all freedom.
That's a that's a good one steph got with four Yeah,
that's really it around them.
Yeah, it's Hall of famers looking around. You got to.
But that's why I.
Think they can get over the hump because now Donovan
Mitchell finally has a solid number two options.
Yeah, and he don't have to worry about creating for
other people.
He can just gonna get fitted. I'll make sure everybody
else is involved in the game. Just go kill because
you're a Allen been looking crazy with James Parker. That
got ken On Ellis and got your guy, did shrot
off the bench, They got a talented rock, they got
the team.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think the East Playoffs is going to be
real shocking, man, because don't think there's a clear cutter.
Off not rolling with Detroit though, I love Detroit. Man.
If Kate is healthy, I'll take the Pistons out the East. Yeah,
I k come back.
If Kate is back healthy, I'll take it the way.
At that second, have been playing dayln Darrell looking.
Like an All NBA player. Yes, I'm not Roland. You
know I ain't a home you sleep, he said.
With all that being said, I don't know, bro, I
don't know, just because I played there and my time,
they ain't go so smooth. But I don't know, Fam,
I just don't think they could be Boston man or Cleveland.
I know they're the best team in the easton, but
I still think I still got Cleveland, Uh, Celtics and
Cleveland ahead of him. And the Hawks is balling now too.
Now they balling my favorite team. But mar Oldham Macoma
for the Hawks. Bro Old yeah Aacoma sleep.
He resing them. They're out of here. Fourteen strokes, ten
heart attackts. That's how long ago ox and never many stroke?
I mean.
Yeah, yeah, do all ready for that?
Man?
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