Drawing the Line at Cheating | Golden Hour

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks for joining us. We're excited to have another episode together.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely and if you haven't listened to our podcast from Wednesday, please check it out. Guess who we had, our good friend and fellow Golden Bachelor et I don't think she's a bachelor anyhow, it was Ellen on our podcast, and what fun we had talking to her.

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Speaker 1: We had, we talked. I found Ellen to be as fun on the podcast as she was in the house.

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Speaker 3: She was great in the house. How about her princess date?

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Speaker 1: Okay, can we talk about that?

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Speaker 2: Can I just say nobody, anybody and that anybody would have been excited, but she has never had. She's such Oh that was so so special that so for those.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine there's one of you out there. But for those of you who missed that episode, Ellen went on this fabulous date, got fabulous diamond ear rings like Michael Costello, clothes and we didn't talk about this on the podcast, but here's a little dirt. So Ellen was handing out all the dresses that she didn't want.

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Speaker 3: You remember, Susan, Yes, yes I do.

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Speaker 1: It didn't fit her or were too big or whatever. Too smart one. I got one, and the way I got it, nobody wanted it because they said it was too big. And I finally looked at it. It's I wore for the women's tellow it's this beautiful white jumpsuit. And I looked at these people in the guard It's too big. It's too big. I said to them, where with you people? Have you never heard of a tailor? And I took it home and had about two feet taken in and it was fabulous.

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Speaker 2: So I know Ellen's going to hear all of our podcasts, and Ellen, forgive me now, but this I have to I just have to share it. I'll never forget. First of all, her face was priceless. When Michael Costello walked in and called her and she wanted to go by new underwear, she said, I don't have pretty She was embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: Wait, it's worse than that. We get to the wedding, Susan lectures her about her underwear. And then we get to the wedding, Aya says again, she goes, I have terrible underwear. We looking to go. Have you not learned your lesson? What's wrong with you? So you think for Christmas?

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Speaker 3: We're gonna send her Victoria's secret underwear.

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Speaker 1: I mean that she's going to kill you. Did you love her talking about her dating the guy, that it was selfish that she dumped right and she she saw right away that he was narcissistic.

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Speaker 3: Good, definite no no for me.

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Speaker 1: But she did share.

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Speaker 2: She went to an opening of a restaurant, I believe, she said, and met somebody else. I mean, it's news she couldn't really share with us yet, but that is the way it is.

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Speaker 1: Kill yourself out there, yep. And we talked about so again for those of you who missed it, I don't know where you were, but we won. Ellen and I won the pickleball tournament on the Golden Bachelor. And she plays a ton of pickleball and she's so active, and that's how she was talking about. That's how she meets people. Meets people. She gets out and does.

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Speaker 2: She's very active. She golfs, she plays pickle and that's how she meets guys. She's in a great little community Susan, Florida. So maybe we should move to Florida.

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Speaker 3: Is that the problem?

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Speaker 1: But we're moving to Florida in a community and we're taking up pickleball full time. That'll be it. All right, So today we have got even more fan questions. I love it. I love the all are listening and writing in. Please keep it up, and like always, we have some really good ones today. All right, if you want to send a question reach out, go to bachelornation dot com slash Golden.

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Speaker 2: Hour and please do it. But first let's get started with today's question of the day. This is always fun, always okay, so you ready, yep, go for it. What's one lesson you wish you had learned earlier in your dating journey.

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Speaker 3: A lesson that we've learned early and so we first start dating.

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Speaker 1: A lesson I mean, I think I think many of our guests have touched on it. For me, it's being comfortable with being myself and not trying to please someone else, being my authentic self, which I usually am, but I think when we're first dating, when we were younger, that's harder.

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Speaker 3: I've always been who I am, which is maybe why I don't have a lot of dates.

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Speaker 2: But the lesson I still struggle with this that people tell me is don't trust everyone. And I'm a very trusting person. You yourself told me don't think everybody's as good as you are, don't you know? You have to get to know them before you can trust them. And that's that's a problem I have. I guess that would be my lesson is not to trust everything that comes out of anybody. Well, I find that difficult though. Well, I look at the good in people.

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Speaker 1: Well, everyone has good and everyone has some bad. We're not perfect. I mean, you may be Saint Susan, I am saying Susan, yeah, but most of us are not perfect. And I think that's just it's it's just be aware, right, So when I date now, I'm I'm just aware of what they're saying.

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Speaker 3: I don't can I say something.

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Speaker 2: We are ready to date now, and we'll practice all these things we learned, but we're not dating.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let's get this right. When you have a date, I'll call you soon.

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Speaker 3: Do they get a date, keviy.

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Speaker 1: You know what's going to happen. All these people that are listening to our podcasts are going to sell.

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Speaker 2: Us once we do a group date, group date, group date, We're going to do paintballing.

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Speaker 1: No, that would hurt. I would not do that, all right, Well, that would be fun.

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Speaker 2: We could get a group date together for both of us. We maybe we'll go play nine.

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Speaker 1: You know, Susan, the only thing harder than having a date with one of us is having a date with both of us that they.

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Speaker 2: Can withstand that we're bound to pick somebody.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let's move on, Come on, let's start our questions here. We've got some great boks.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Question number one, Marissa from Phoenix sent us this, Susan and Kathy. I did something that I'm not proud of. After a night out in a club with my best friends, I got a little too drunk and made out with a stranger on the dance floor. I cheated on my boyfriend of one year. The morning after this happened, I regretted it immediately, and I felt like I had to come clean. After I told him, he was completely heartbroken and said he needed some space for me. Do you think there's any way that I could win his trust back? I don't want to end things like this. He really means a lot to me.

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Speaker 1: You know what, This happens more times. I mean rule number one, Why were you so drunk that you didn't know what you were doing? People use alcohol? People use alcohols and excuse for a lot of bad behavior. I think that she's not in control of this. She's going to have to try to earn his trust back. It may or may not happen.

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Speaker 2: I admire the fact that you came clean immediately, but you got to give him some time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if.

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Speaker 2: He really loves you and realizes you did tell the truth and that's all you did. But the problem is he's going to feel like my friend saw you or who saw you?

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Speaker 3: That's going to come back and tell me. That's when it gets ugly.

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Speaker 1: You know, it does. Here's a couple of questions I have, which you know, Marissa can't answer for us. But she's been with a guy for a year and she's out clubbing with her friends. No, no problem, no problem with that.

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Speaker 3: Why are kissing somebody else?

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Speaker 1: Well? People, you know when they get drunk. They say I wouldn't know because I've never been drunk, But they say that you're real, you know, you drop your inhibitions. So maybe you're not as happy with your relationship as you think.

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Speaker 3: Why did you kiss him? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Make sure that's true. That's it. Good luck with that one, Yeah, good luck, And next time, stay sober and things may go better for it.

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Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't end for you, and I hope he respects the fact that you did come clean and tell the truth and you do regret it. But I feel as if, even if he forgives you, it's always going to be there.

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Speaker 1: Oh No, I don't think that at all.

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Speaker 3: I do. I think he'll never forget what she did.

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Speaker 1: Oh I disagree. I disagree. If anybody can make a mistake, I mean, she can go to bed with the guys, she made out with him, she came clean. I think if they have to forgive her. Yeah, and if you know what, if you don't forget, oh I do if you forgive someone, Oh yeah, Susan, if you forgive, you got to be able to move on and forget.

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Speaker 2: You can move on and it's all good. But it's always there. It's always there, a second guess of trusting. That's so you're saying, you're saying he'll never trust her again. I'm not, but he would question things. Yeah, one ever given.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, that's it's Susan.

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Speaker 2: An uncomfortable situation. He's going to remember what she did. Well, hopefully she's learned her lesson isn't going to call that again.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I wish you lucky.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we wish you all the luck in the world, and stay away from the alcohol. Okay. Listener question number two, Jess from New York says, I've been with my boyfriend for a couple of years now. He's always watched porn, but I think lately he's just been more open about it. It really bothers me. It doesn't bother me that he masturbates, but the fact that he does it while watching videos of other women makes me feel really insecure. On top of that, I asked him what kind of porn stars he's into, and he described women that are the total opposite of my body type and race. Does this mean that he's not actually that attracted to me? Is it worth me putting my foot down over my own securities? Or should I keep letting him do his own thing? Wait? The last line says it all. What should I keep letting him do his money? You don't have a choice, You're not in control of him.

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Speaker 2: No, And you know what, I've tried in a relationship. A man likes to watch I don't get anything out of it. I'm sorry, but there's an issue here.

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Speaker 1: Why because he does porn?

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Speaker 2: No, she doesn't like that he's choosing somebody that's not her, So that's making her feel like she's not as attractive to him as he should be. He likes other race, other but men are different than women.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's I'm not going to excuse it. I don't dig it.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's not the porn of them. No, you know what gets me? She asks him what kind of porn stars he's into? Like, why would you ask? It's like asking you what color? You know? Flavor ice cream? Who cares?

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Speaker 3: And I wonder if it's all women? Is it women and men?

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Speaker 1: Like usually it's you know, she's asking us. Here's what I would say, Jess. You're asking us. You're telling us you feel insecure. You're asking if he's not that into you're asking is worth putting your foot down? Have you talked to him about any of this? I would No, I'm saying, Hashi, Jess. If you haven't, you need to talk to him about it. Because if he's into porn and that's what floats his boat, guess what you can either get on board or get out?

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Speaker 2: And is he masturbating in front of you? After watching this are you there or is he telling you about this?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: How do you know this is what's happening? Is it a thing you do together? I don't know the details.

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Speaker 1: Can I just be honesting you this, Susan, I'm feeling really old right now. I'm feeling really old like this stuff. This wasn't in my marriage. It was like he had a playboy in the back of the toilet. That was it.

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Speaker 3: Things have come a long way.

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Speaker 1: I feel old. I'm going to end it on that now.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of people that they are into porn and that's their thing, as long as he's not making you go without because he'd rather do that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. That's a tough one.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna do while he's masturbating to porn you watching, I'm taking the name and Marcus cart and I'm going shopping. I had met. I wish you a lot of luck, Honey. That's a tough one, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Amy from Texas says Hi, Susan and Kathy. I'm an only child and I've always been very close to my parents my whole life. I lived with them for a couple of years after college, and I'm now finally on my own, in my own apartment and financially independent.

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Speaker 1: Good for you.

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Speaker 2: But we still see each other all the time since I only live about twenty minutes away. I've been with my current boyfriend now for about six months, and I just recently introduced him to my parents. My parents are very conservative, and I begged them not to bring up anything political with my boyfriend.

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Speaker 1: Of course they did. Of course they did.

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Speaker 3: My boyfriend is.

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Speaker 2: Much more liberal, and he's also not afraid to speak his mind. They got into a rather heated discussion throughout dinner. Now every time I see my parents they make random comments about my boyfriend, hinting that I should break up with him. I really like him, but I feel like I'm between a rock and a hard place. How can I get them to.

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Speaker 3: All get along?

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Speaker 1: Oh, never talk about religion. It's like rule number one. Wow, leave religion and politics at the door.

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Speaker 3: But it was her parents that brought it up. Yeah, and he's.

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Speaker 1: Can I first, just can we just go back a minute. Yeah, she's in her own apartment and she's independent. We do wrong?

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Speaker 3: I did mine?

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Speaker 1: No, But that's a taboo thing.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. I don't think their parents. I mean, okay, they had something to say, but not every time you see her. If your daughter's happy, he's good to her, they're falling in love.

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Speaker 1: Shut up, well, tell us what you really think.

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Speaker 3: Just because their political issues are different.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I live in Texas, yeah, and you know it is a pretty conservative state, and I think that parents there maybe are a little different than they are in the Northeast, and that they maybe feel like it's fair game to tell their daughter what they think and expect her to follow suit. But here's the thing. If she's independent, then it may mean she has to pull back from them a little bit and say, guys, I love you, but I love this guy too. And if you can't respect my right to date who I want then or keep your opinions to yourself, I'm sorry. If if they're how old, it's clearly you know they're baked. They're not changing, no.

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Speaker 2: And he's not afraid to share his uh so amy feeling Amy.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I'm going to say to you. Either get a Confederate flag and start waving, or you gotta You're gonna have to stand up to your parents.

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Speaker 2: Either you beg one or the other babe, the boyfriend. Please, if they start with this topic, just shut it down, move on to something else.

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Speaker 3: But he sounds like he's a.

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Speaker 2: Little cocky and he's going to go right back at him with his views.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Do you think that it would be a problem going forward like that show between married, Like, we don't know? Is she liberal? Say that?

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Speaker 3: She did not say that.

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Speaker 2: I mean every time she sees her parents they make random comments.

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Speaker 1: Well, she says. She also says she begged them not to bring up any I think political, so this time they did. This is not a first time deal here.

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Speaker 2: Well, be your own person, live your own life, Pete, love your parents to death, and if it gets really bad, you go see them by yourself, leave them home. I don't know what to say. I don't know what they did that. Nothing's going to change. The parents are going to be the parents. The boyfriend's going to be the boy Susan, Yeah, what are you saying, not see your parents anymore?

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, play hardball if they If you're in love with this guy, you want to be with this guy, and they're not being nice about it. Mom and dad, I love you, but I really love Joe, John Sam whatever.

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Speaker 3: Whatever his name is, and be with your man.

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Speaker 1: Be with your man, Stand by your man. There's a song stand by Now.

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Speaker 2: If it were a different situation like he did you wrong and you were hurt and your parents took up for you and they end up not liking him very much and you get back together, that's that's even tougher. But this is a political like really, I mean, mind your own businessman.

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Speaker 1: You're not between a rock and a hard place. I'm sweetie. You're an adult and you're gonna have to make a tough decision here exactly.

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Speaker 2: So if you do have a question for us, as you can see, we talk about it all we want to hear it, go to bachelornation dot com slash Golden Hour and you may be featured on our podcast. Kathy, how about that? We just got our first audio and Maylan gets to be live on our podcast.

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Speaker 1: Do you just love getting these audio calls?

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Speaker 3: I absolutely do.

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Speaker 5: I am currently talking to this new guy, but and it's going really well, and it's getting to the point now where we should probably start introducing each other to our families. But the thing is is, I have never introduced a guide to my family ever in my life. So just wondering your guys's advice on kind of advice encouragement, and yeah, I guess, like what should we do for the first time that happens? What should I expect? What should he expect?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love you guys.

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Speaker 5: You guys are amazing, And yeah, you guys are just so fun and funny to watch. And I love you guys. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I mean her question, there's so many questions I.

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Speaker 3: Have right, Like, I don't know how old you are.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how long you've been seeing the guy. I want to know why you've never brought a guy home. What's the first thing that came to both of our minds when we heard her?

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Speaker 2: Really, she never brought anyone home before? And I remember Joey's reaction to that.

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Speaker 3: I was like, what are you lying?

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Speaker 2: Well, like I said, I don't know how old you are, should never have brought anybody? Or maybe she thinks that nobody was worth bringing home and she hasn't felt a certain way about somebody before.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's focus on she wants to bring him home. She wants to her parents to meet them, meet him, So.

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Speaker 2: Tell your parents first, Like, there is somebody in my life, mom, that I'm interested in, but I'm going to keep it casual.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say I'm not going to say, you know, I've never put anyone home before. I'm going to say, hey, you know, I might not even bring him to my house. I might say, hey, mom and dad need meet us for a cup of coffee or for a drink at a bar. There's a guy I've been seen. Keep it casual for the first meeting, so that you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I can have a good point there, because going to somebody's home there's a whole another ballgame. If you will meet out in a restaurant, have some appetizer, have a drink, giving not a bar. You don't know what her family's like, like a bar, restaurant.

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Speaker 1: A cup of coffee, go for a walk on the lake, whatever, do something that's casual. Don't be afraid, Maeland, don't be nervous about doing this. If you have found someone that you feel like you want to meet your family, you clearly are invested. You're invested in it, and you're feeling something for this guy that you've never felt for anyone else.

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Speaker 2: I'll librate that, and how do you feel about meeting his family for the first time.

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Speaker 3: Are you nervous? Everybody's a little nervous, just for yourself.

00:20:07
Speaker 1: Do you remember meeting? Yes?

00:20:09
Speaker 3: I do.

00:20:10
Speaker 1: What was it like?

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Speaker 3: Is she from New York?

00:20:15
Speaker 1: She's fast?

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Speaker 2: I used to try to finish their sentences, Dicky, my ex was from North Carolina, from Charlotte, North Carolina, and they talk slow, and you know, I'm quick.

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Speaker 3: Is she from New York?

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Speaker 1: That's really funny. I remember I was so nervous when my husband we met in college and he drove me to meet his parents for the weekend, and we had to do a whole weekend, whole weekend, and it was dark, and we're driving off the New York State Thruway and he takes this exit and I'm thinking, you don't live here. You're taking me parking, parking?

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Speaker 3: Did you hear that?

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Speaker 1: I told you I'm old, showing you. I'm sure you're gonna make it. That's right. We did that to We drove down this I'm telling you, one blinking stop like town and he pulls in and I knew we're here. It was like I'd landed on Mars. It was, but it is.

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Speaker 2: It's scary to meet people for the first time, and this is a big moment in your life.

00:21:18
Speaker 1: Embrace, embrace it, celebrate joy it y's and you know what, we both wish you if this is the guy. If this is the guy, Susan wants to be your wedding official.

00:21:28
Speaker 2: Yes, and call us and let us know how this works out, because I want to hear how it went.

00:21:32
Speaker 1: And we wish you, we hope for you the best best outcome for this meeting.

00:21:38
Speaker 2: And I'm sure your parents are ready to Yeah, yeah, you know what, you're fourteen.

00:21:43
Speaker 1: I mean I was saying, they're probably thrilled. Finally somebody's going to take her off our hands. No good luck with that. Really, we love you, and thanks so much for calling in.

00:21:53
Speaker 2: And just know you were the first live one on our podcast and we celebrate.

00:21:58
Speaker 1: We want more. Feels free to call in. Okay, So today, Susan, you know it's always game day. Oh yes, game face for game day already. All right, we're going to play this game that we've called moral quandary. We're going to read a quandary if you will, and we each have to try. Let's this time, let's try to guess what the other one would do. Okay, all right, as soon as we start, you're going to get it. Okay, you're going to guess that. I'm going to guess.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: All right. You're at the park with your grandkids when one of them finds one hundred dollars bill on the ground. You are the only people at the park and you don't see anyone else nearby? Do you keep the one hundred dollars?

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Speaker 3: I let my grandchild keep it.

00:22:43
Speaker 1: You're supposed to go?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I blew that one. I would let my grandchild. What would you do, Kathy?

00:22:50
Speaker 1: What do you think? There's nobody else there? I'm going to start this. O. We're gonna start this.

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Speaker 3: Kathy would let the children keep it?

00:22:57
Speaker 2: Now, Kathy might pocket it herself.

00:23:00
Speaker 1: You think I would pocket it?

00:23:01
Speaker 2: No, you're wrong, you would if there's no what am I gonna You're not letting the kid have it?

00:23:07
Speaker 1: You know? Oh? With my grandkid?

00:23:09
Speaker 2: Yes, the grandkid finds it, let them keep it? Good for you?

00:23:12
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would.

00:23:13
Speaker 3: But here's what you look around, make sure nobody's Here's.

00:23:16
Speaker 1: What I thought you were going to say, But take a picture. Put it up lost and found it's on her bucks? Were at a bark. Wait, what if your grandchild is like six.

00:23:26
Speaker 2: And you go home and tell mommy and daddy that's yours. You could spend it on whatever you want, put it in the bank.

00:23:31
Speaker 1: Would say college account. I'm keeping it and I'm putting in their college ground.

00:23:35
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, you get fifty to buy something and the other fifty goes in the savings. Okay, my turn, Kathy. You're searching for a nanny for your three children. I wish you interview someone who seems perfect. You're ready to make her an offer, but first search her online. You discover her instagram, which features almost all provocative of half dressed photos.

00:24:02
Speaker 3: Do you still hire her?

00:24:03
Speaker 1: What do I say?

00:24:04
Speaker 2: Katsy's gonna say hell no, hell no, nobody would like that's a crazy one.

00:24:11
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, what do you think I would have hired her?

00:24:15
Speaker 1: No? I don't think you would hire her. But I'm gonna play Devil's advocated in a minute.

00:24:19
Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough.

00:24:20
Speaker 1: She was sixteen, she was drunk, she didn't know what she was doing. She has looked at those pictures in you know, ten years.

00:24:27
Speaker 3: In first of all, she's sixteen and they've been there for ten years.

00:24:30
Speaker 1: That's a big red flag. That's okay, you know what I'm saying. No, she hasn't. No, no, And by the way, you're being judgy against Susan, I'm seeing a whole new side of you.

00:24:42
Speaker 2: Okay, Why I don't have half dressed, provocative people raising my babysitting my kids?

00:24:49
Speaker 1: Excuse me? Would you let Katy Perry babysit your kids? Oh? She's tooxy for her Yeah? No, Okay, try another one. You meet someone at a Starbucks and start texting. He asks you out on a date, but tells you via text that he feels he needs to let you know he's only ever dated men. You would be the first woman he's ever gone out with. Do you still go out with him? Now? Guess what you think I would say? Okay, thought too long?

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Speaker 3: Are you sure you I don't know?

00:25:29
Speaker 1: Are they in Texas? No? Hell no, not even a chance. I'm just going what do you think i'd say?

00:25:40
Speaker 4: Oh, of course I would. I give anyone a chance, give me my new best friend. I just like to chat with him and let him buy me dinner, and oh, he'd probably fall in love with me.

00:25:51
Speaker 3: They'll let him buy me dinner? Is so wrong? Because you know, I.

00:25:54
Speaker 1: Always pay my own way. But yeah, no, would you go out with him? Yeah? I might talk to him? Yeah? Am I speaking English here? Would you go out.

00:26:02
Speaker 2: The first woman he's ever going out with? Probably if I liked him?

00:26:06
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:26:08
Speaker 1: Okay, let me paint a clearer picture for you. You seem to be struggling. He's sixty nine, he is what. No, I don't picture that. I'm saying, why your world, you're sixty seven. Let's make him sixty five. You want a younger guy, God, you got it. You're sixty seven, he's sixty five.

00:26:26
Speaker 3: That's a whole different story.

00:26:28
Speaker 1: What do you hell A?

00:26:28
Speaker 2: I'm thinking to myself as being younger and this happened, Susan. It doesn't say you were somebody at Starbucks at this age of the game and he's only ever dated. Meant that now, Okay, of course it took a long time to get them. I mean, I don't judge people like Remember the question we had I guess either. It hasn't come up out yet, but we did discuss one of the people's questions about the two women, and she was about to propose remember.

00:26:56
Speaker 1: That one yes, and he wanted to be with them she.

00:26:58
Speaker 2: Wants to try him. Still, that's where what that came to mind. That's different, and that's a and that's a much younger situation. There is no way because he's been with yeah man for sixty years if he's sixty.

00:27:10
Speaker 3: But anyhow, I love this answer that we have.

00:27:13
Speaker 2: I love getting to know more about you, Kathy and your opinions on things. Not that we always agree, but we agree to disagree. That's what friendship.

00:27:21
Speaker 1: But don't you think we agree? Susan and I come from very different backgrounds. We're both Northeasterners. Even though I live in Texas, I grew up in Massachusetts outside of Boston. But we agree on a lot a lot of things, and it's funny because our life has been so different. And that does it for this episode.

00:27:39
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us today on Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour.

00:27:44
Speaker 1: Thanks everyone for listening and tuning in. Please be sure to follow us as we have new episodes coming out every week.

00:27:52
Speaker 2: And don't forget to submit your questions. As you can see, we love it. We absolutely love hearing from you. Go to Bachelornation dot com slash Golden Hour to send them in. Plus, don't forget If you know any friends that want.

00:28:08
Speaker 1: To date Kathy and Susan, send.

00:28:12
Speaker 2: Them in and we'll check them out. We're really seriously considering a group date. I think I like that idea. We should talk more about that. Okay, we will, we will. First, we need the guy, Susan well, first comment. Baby, they're coming all right.

00:28:24
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00:28:33
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, grain weeks, See you soon, See you next week.